1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: I want to introduce you to On the Job and 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: host Avery Thompson. Avery shares stories of people making changes 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: in their professional and personal lives. Whether it's a successful 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: athlete transitioning into a new career off the field, a 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: fly fishing tour guide trying to introduce a new segment 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 2: of folks to the joys of the outdoors, or a 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: stadium beer and hot dog hawker who doubles as a 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 2: CEO of a red hot startup. We'll find out what 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: drives them and what lies ahead. These are heartfelt stories 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: of people finding their lives. Work on the Job is 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: brought to you by Express Employment Professionals. This week, Avery 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: talks to an author who learned the transformational power of 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: making a professional pivot. 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: Welcome to On the Job. Since we're focusing on pivots 16 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: this season, we hear at OTJ figured why not check 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: in with someone who knows all about pivots, So on 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: today's episode, we're going to speak with Adam Markel, who, 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: after a pivot of his own to write a book 20 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 3: called Well What Else? Pivot? Before Adam Markel ever thought 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: of becoming an author and keynote speaker. He was a 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: lawyer in New York City, and a successful one at that. 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I liked winning, and there's a part 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: of you when you beat somebody in court that is 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: just an exhilarating experience. 26 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: And there were even parts of the job to fulfill 27 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: them on a psychological level. 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: I was bullied as a kid, and at a certain 29 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: point when I decided that wasn't going to be my 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: life experience anymore, I became the carnivors part of why 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: I became a lawyer. 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: And as you can imagine, being a lawyer in Manhattan 33 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: was quite lucrative. 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: You can make a lot of money, a lot of money, 35 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of money in a very controlled environment. 36 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: And yet despite all the success, Adam could feel that 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: something was off, or more accurately, he could hear it. 38 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: I would I could describe it almost like it was 39 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: a hum. And I would say, you know, it's like 40 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: saying to somebody, do you hear that? They go, they go, 41 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: what are you talking to about? I'll go, it's that hum. 42 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: It's that there's like this dull thing out that says 43 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: this sucks, this is not right. But nobody heard it 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: except me. 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 3: Adam just tried to pretend this hum wasn't there, to 46 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: focus more on his work, or, as he explained it, 47 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: to become even more of an agro aggressive attorney. Until 48 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: one day. 49 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: You know, I ended up with a serious anxiety attack 50 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: at one point, ended up in the hospital, and you know, 51 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: the whole I'm thinking I'm dying of a art attack experience. 52 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 3: Fortunately for Adam, the doctors checked him out and said 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: it was okay. But he knew if he didn't make 54 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: a change soon, it was only a matter of time. 55 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: But to understand the change that Adam made, we need 56 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 3: to go back a few years, back to Adam's teenage 57 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: years when he was a lifeguard on Long Island. 58 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: I worked at a place called Jones Beach, was really 59 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: active beach on the Atlantic Go and we made and 60 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: I kid you not, we made one hundred plus saves 61 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: every Saturday or Sunday in the summer because we had 62 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people in that beach. 63 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 3: And the more Adam thought back on those times, the 64 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: more he realized that not only did he miss the beach, 65 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 3: but that he drifted so far from that version of 66 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: himself that he loved, and with the support of his 67 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: wife Randy, Adam said goodbye to the rat race of 68 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: New York City and then he and the family packed 69 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: up all their belongings and moved way out to San Diego, California. 70 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: I mean we were uprooting our entire family. I figured 71 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: I was going to have some therapy bills down the road. 72 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: And that massive mid career pivot that Adam made was 73 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: a big influence on his decision to write a book 74 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: all about pivoting. 75 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: We have to override that with design, and that's what 76 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: the book Pivot is about, designing your changes in life. 77 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: We are constantly growing and ourselves are replicating in our bodies. 78 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: Old cells die and new cells are created. This is 79 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: the cycle of life. This is not didn't make it up. 80 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: This is what it is. 81 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: And then when you do feel it's time to make 82 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: a change in your life, Adam wants to remind you 83 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 3: that it's all about that first step, however small it 84 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: might seem. 85 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: And then you'll be inspired to do the one small thing. 86 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: Like getting pivot, I talk about the process, and that 87 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: process always starts with the tiniest little step, what we 88 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: like to refer to as the small domino. 89 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: But I should clarify that neither Adam nor I are 90 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 3: saying that you have to drop everything and move across 91 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 3: the country or change careers. 92 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: There's something really amazing when you find yourself in a role, 93 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: in an organization, in a profession that you could you 94 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: could be there for decades. 95 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: So whether your next pivot is going to be as 96 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: big as Adams or as subtle as a change in 97 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: your perspective, make sure that you listen to that voice 98 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: in your head, to that gut instinct that we're all 99 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 3: so lucky to have, because come on, folks, haven't you 100 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: been listening? 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