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Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod with Teddy, Melancants and camera Judge.

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Speaker 1: We are back with the Twats and we have Melissa on.

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Speaker 1: You guys need to make sure that you go over

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Speaker 1: to on Display with Melissa Borga to hear the first

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Speaker 1: part of this podcast because it isn't juice because starting

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Speaker 1: to heat up when we stopped with your podcast. Now,

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Speaker 1: we had Jacqueline on about a week ago. She had

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Speaker 1: a lot to say about you, and you know, a

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Speaker 1: week it's not like a month ago. I don't feel

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Speaker 1: like years ago. But you know you you text me

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Speaker 1: before I could text you because we've been friends for

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Speaker 1: a long time, right, I kinda I have to admit

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Speaker 1: I felt a little dirty after it, especially since I

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Speaker 1: just saw you in Vegas and did an event with

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Speaker 1: you and Eddie and I both love you and Joe Um.

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Speaker 1: I felt like a lot was set. There was definitely

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Speaker 1: a lot said. It was a lot podcast on Bash Melissa,

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Speaker 1: not from you too, but I'll guess a lot of

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Speaker 1: questions that would lure her in and with her. I mean,

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Speaker 1: my question to you guys is like what you her in?

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Speaker 1: What did we lure her in? Like I just thought

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Speaker 1: you knew you're saying you didn't know the background she

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Speaker 1: had been going on other podcasts. I did not know that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, any platform she can get on to just

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Speaker 1: say negative things about me. Now, this is my question

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Speaker 1: to you. Jacqueline has not been on TV for a very,

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Speaker 1: very long time. I have no connections with her, haven't

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Speaker 1: know nothing about what's going on in her life. Why

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Speaker 1: do you think, like, what do you think triggered her

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Speaker 1: podcast after she saw Teresa in Vegas. To me, that's

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Speaker 1: that's not even a question. But she did it before

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Speaker 1: she even went to Vegas, right, I don't know about

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Speaker 1: your podcast. Let me ask you a question. Have you

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Speaker 1: talked to Jacqueline? Where is this? You say she's bashing you?

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Speaker 1: Where's this? Do you know? I have zero idea? So

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Speaker 1: I know you have known her as long as I have.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen her since the day she left the show.

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Speaker 1: She left very abruptly. She hated Teresa, she hated me.

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Speaker 1: She never wanted to see us again. I never I

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Speaker 1: understood her in Teresa's fight. They fought hard. You know.

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Speaker 1: She used to treat accused Joe Judais of you know,

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Speaker 1: banging the secretary and this and that, and her and

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Speaker 1: Theresa used to go at it hard. Her and I

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Speaker 1: we didn't really have that. It was like when Teresa

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Speaker 1: and I made up, that's when Jacqueline just got really

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Speaker 1: insecure about something. I don't even know what it was,

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Speaker 1: but she decided she hated me as well. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if she thought that meant that I suddenly was

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Speaker 1: going to be teamed Teresa or something and not be

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Speaker 1: friends with her as well. She just lost it on me.

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Speaker 1: I to this day really never had a major argument

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Speaker 1: with Jacqueline, Like I can't say to you guys, you

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Speaker 1: know what this was, happened, This is what happened on

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Speaker 1: the show, and I did this to her and then nothing,

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Speaker 1: there's zero. I didn't do anything to her on the show.

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Speaker 1: So I to this day don't know what pissed her

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Speaker 1: off eight years later right now. I don't follow her,

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Speaker 1: I don't talk to her. I've never mentioned her name. Zero.

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Speaker 1: So you're completely blindsided by all of this, well, I'm blindsided.

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Speaker 1: I'm blindsided by it all. I don't get it, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not engaging in it because to me, it's pointless

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Speaker 1: and I have enough going on with like like real

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Speaker 1: my current cast. So for me to dive in and start,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say I can truly give two shits

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Speaker 1: about Jacqueline and what she said because I have so

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Speaker 1: many questions about Jersey and what's going on between you

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Speaker 1: and Teresa and all. Great, let go the fall there.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to give any more attention to somebody

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Speaker 1: that we can't we can't watch what happens on camera,

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Speaker 1: like to me, like if Bill Piano see any resolution,

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Speaker 1: first band question. You're gonna hate me for this, but

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Speaker 1: I have to ask ahead, do you worry that where

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Speaker 1: your relationship stands with Teresa, it's going to affect your

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Speaker 1: place on the show. It possibly could, of course, of

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Speaker 1: the way the producers are thinking as well right now,

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily need resolution. I don't know that. I

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Speaker 1: which I wonder, is that what's going to keep happening

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Speaker 1: we're gonna keep believing that there's gonna be a resolution

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Speaker 1: reality or what is the issue? Well, on the episode tonight,

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Speaker 1: Jia actually says in her confessional that everything was fine,

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Speaker 1: But we don't need to go to lunch. And that's

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Speaker 1: text messages, um Teresa and Luis. They gave them to

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Speaker 1: She's been on the phone with this one website since

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Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve. She talks to them constantly. They're

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Speaker 1: they're anti Melissa, They're just they bashed me all day long.

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Speaker 1: So I think so yeah, she just she's been on

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Speaker 1: It's basically Teresa tweeting. It's basically Teresa talking. It's always been.

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Speaker 1: lead text messages prove nothing except for more of my point,

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Speaker 1: doing this in real life, whether the show's running or not.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to suddenly show up to your fiftieth

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm not coming. But a question, just

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Speaker 1: matter how much you were there for Teresa's daughters while

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Speaker 1: she was in prison. Using it to prove a point

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Speaker 1: that at all? Who used it to prove a point?

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Speaker 1: a high profile case. It's my sister in law. If

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Speaker 1: So I then started to share my attorney with her,

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Speaker 1: be in the making. It was for Joe, Judaics and

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Speaker 1: the girls. She then, at that point, six months later,

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Speaker 1: come visit her on Teresa checks In, so vice versa.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me say that again. Did he get paid? Of course,

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Speaker 1: Teresa got paid. We got like you know, day appearance rate.

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Speaker 1: Of course, but we were. But my point of that is,

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Speaker 1: She wouldn't put him on the list. The only reason

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Speaker 1: because that's not the truth, and the truth is this

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Speaker 1: my Frankie bees. Yeah, appreciate you coming on. Um. My

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Speaker 1: final question is I know this has been asked a

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Speaker 1: for any reconciliation between you guys and Teresa. I would

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Speaker 1: never say never, because that to me feels just I

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Speaker 1: can't even let that. I don't want to say never. No,

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Speaker 1: I always hope that a brother and sister can get

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Speaker 1: always hope that. Well, that makes me happy, then because

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Speaker 1: I don't think they see each other a lot. They're

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Speaker 1: both in different high schools and who's in college, and

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Speaker 1: they don't see a lot of each other, but I

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Speaker 1: know they snapchat and they talk back and forth. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you, and I wish you guys the best.

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Speaker 1: And you know we're saying you're only as good as

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Speaker 1: last week's episode. So we may say shit and you'll

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Speaker 1: hate us for a week, but you'll probably like us

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Speaker 1: again the next week. We're good. All good do you think? Girls?

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Speaker 1: Oh night, Bye bye, love you guys. Bye,