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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, What to Episode one two five of the

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Speaker 1: Hemry Territory Podcast. I'm your host of Brad Roland, coming

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Speaker 1: to you on a Thursday evening. Winter meetings are over,

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined by Scott Coleman Scott Shirley. The Braves

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Speaker 1: did all kinds of things this week, right, It was

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Speaker 1: really busy for everybody.

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Speaker 2: So this is going to be like a seven hour episode, Brad,

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Speaker 2: because there is so much Atlanta Braves news and transactions

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Speaker 2: to talk about. Yeah, I mean, obviously, if you're listening

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Speaker 2: to the show, you know it was a very very

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Speaker 2: very quiet couple of days for alex Anthopolis and the

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Speaker 2: team in Dallas. That does not mean he is not

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Speaker 2: working on other things. It just means he, like, frankly,

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Speaker 2: a handful of other teams. I mean, you know, the

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Speaker 2: Phillies I think have signed a reliever so far, and

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Speaker 2: that's it. The Padres, who might have been the second

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Speaker 2: best roster in the game last year. Padres haven't done much.

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Speaker 2: They are contending teams who have not made a bunch

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Speaker 2: of splashes yet. And it is still early mid December.

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Speaker 2: There's plenty of time. But man, I'm jonesing just like

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Speaker 2: everybody else. Is for a couple of moves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we all are.

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Speaker 1: I know, listening to Sean and Stephen the other night

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Speaker 1: talking to them offline to Steven's about to punch someone

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Speaker 1: to get a transaction of some kind. I love you, Stephen,

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Speaker 1: but no, it's we're all in the same place. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: kind freaking out. We'll talk about that more as we

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Speaker 1: get into this podcast. But if you a new listener,

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Speaker 1: welcome aboard to the podcast. We cover the braves here

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Speaker 1: at Hammer Territory on a three sixty five day basis. Basically,

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Speaker 1: part of the Foul Territory Network where we cover the

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Speaker 1: whole league across the network, team shows and the flagship

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Speaker 1: over at Foul Territory. But we teased about it obviously

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Speaker 1: we do free shows.

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Speaker 2: This week.

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Speaker 1: We were kind of trying to do a show every

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Speaker 1: day of the winter meetings and then literally nothing happened

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Speaker 1: we did cover it in full form despite nothing really happening.

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Speaker 1: I think the headline thing is still and Steven and

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Speaker 1: Sean did react to this yesterday. The headline's for me

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Speaker 1: and you talking about briefly. As Max Freed is no

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Speaker 1: longer a member of the Braves officially, I don't have

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Speaker 1: much to add from what Steven and Sean said, I

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Speaker 1: thought myself nodding along with their reactions and the farewell

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Speaker 1: of Max. But I wanted to give you a chance

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Speaker 1: here Scott's weigh in, because you know you and I

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Speaker 1: covered Max for a very long time world series and all,

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Speaker 1: and what was your reaction to Max designing a very

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Speaker 1: very lucrative deal.

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Speaker 3: With the Yankees.

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Speaker 2: I think I can give my Max Free take, very

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Speaker 2: very shortly fantastic picture by all accounts, a really good dude,

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Speaker 2: and frankly, I mean Max Freed is, for my money,

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Speaker 2: like a top ten pitcher in franchise history for the

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Speaker 2: Atlanta Braves. But eight years and two hundred and eighteen

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Speaker 2: million dollars, Brad, I don't blame the Braves for not

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Speaker 2: doing that deal. And honestly, like you know, with Dansby

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Speaker 2: have afforded to pay either of those players, the Max

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Speaker 2: bummed that they couldn't beat that deal. I mean eight

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Speaker 2: Braves a discount it like eight years and two hundred million,

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Speaker 2: I would have had no interest in that. Wish Max

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Speaker 2: all the best. I hope he gets a chance to

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I think we all saw the

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Speaker 2: and Max is now a Yankee. It is nice that

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Speaker 2: But yeah, best of luck to Max. Enjoy that money.

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Speaker 2: I would love to know what the first couple of

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Speaker 1: I joked with Steve and I think it was Monday

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Speaker 1: And they can afford it. I've Steven said it beautifully

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Speaker 1: So that's that, and I was we wish Max the best,

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Speaker 1: good god by all the council, Like Scott said, but

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Speaker 1: they didn't do this. It's a pitcher who's thirty one

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Speaker 1: If the Braves offered him seventy five million dollars less,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna spend a time in a second kind

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Speaker 1: but he was he reported the Bravesborough finalist for Garrett

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Speaker 2: It seems like, yeah, yeah, there was a report that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we do agree on that.

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Speaker 1: I tend to lean towards trading guys that are not

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Speaker 1: Those are those are three names, Scott, That's all I'll say.

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Speaker 1: he was going to the bullpen at some point. And

432
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,440
Speaker 1: that would be the case with Hoffman too. But again,

433
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 1: there's a price point where that's okay. Renald's press point

434
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,439
Speaker 1: was three years and thirty million. That was totally fine.

435
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 1: If you're giving him four years and sixty billion, that's

436
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 1: not fine, you know what I mean. There's a happy

437
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 1: medium there if there's a possibility him being a reliever.

438
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 1: So that's all, that's what it comes out to, Like,

439
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,359
Speaker 1: is there a real betting of work with off the.

440
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 3: We just don't know.

441
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and one other just quick note on Hoffman, then

442
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,680
Speaker 2: we'll move on, you know, right, sown Iglesias is only

443
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 2: signed for one more season after this, so the Braves

444
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,199
Speaker 2: might need their closer or yeah, I know there's a

445
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,360
Speaker 2: never ending debate about closers. Verst just have good relievers

446
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 2: and figure out roles. But Hoffman did close out games

447
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,400
Speaker 2: for Philadelphia, so again, Man, there are avenues for him

448
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 2: to have a real role with this team, whether it's

449
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 2: a starter, a reliever, setup man, closer, and down the road,

450
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 2: whatever it might be.

451
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 1: I want to stop here for a second and insert

452
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Speaker 1: the name of Charlie Morton, not from my own personal

453
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Speaker 1: gratification Scott, but because he makes sense in this slot.

454
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 1: We talked about the guys who were all better than him,

455
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 1: like clearly better than him. Now a gatt to the

456
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Speaker 1: tier where it's not clear that they are than him,

457
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 1: and he has the Braves connection. Relatedly, this week, Jason

458
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: Stark of The Athletic and Real Reporter reported that Morton

459
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: is still deciding if he even wants to pitch next season.

460
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,360
Speaker 1: There's been some reporting locally that Moore wants to pitch

461
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: more and wants to pitch I trust to the Stark reporting.

462
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm might say he's right, but that's a real report

463
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 1: to say, Morton's not even committed to pitching yet. Also,

464
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: Dob of The Athletic as well reported this week that

465
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 1: the Braves and Charlie have not been really talking lately,

466
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 1: which doesn't mean they're not going to talk again, but

467
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 1: they haven't been talking.

468
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 3: That was notable to me as well. But when I

469
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 3: will say this, like.

470
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Speaker 1: I know I'm the Morton guy, so paint me the

471
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,239
Speaker 1: picture of you that you want to His projections for

472
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: next year. I know he's old, we all understand are

473
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 1: kind of the same almost to the tea of guys

474
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Speaker 1: who are getting like fifteen million year on this market

475
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,959
Speaker 1: because the market's so inflated. I'm not saying pay him that.

476
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: To be very clear, he is forty years old, but

477
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 1: like he's still as good as like the rest he's got.

478
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: They're about to talk about, like pick your guy here,

479
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: Nick Plavetta, Andrew, Kyle Gibson, Like Morton is still on

480
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 1: the same level as these guys. It's just maybe a

481
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: one year commitment versus maybe you have to give Kyle

482
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: Gibson two years or three years. Like That's that's kind

483
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,719
Speaker 1: of where emotion towards Charlie's side it might be appealing

484
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 1: to Alex to just have a one year deal because

485
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: he loves one year deals.

486
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 2: I don't know, like objectively, Charlie Morton is a fourth

487
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: fifth starter. And if you're gonna pay a fourth fifth

488
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 2: starter ten twelve million dollars, that is the going rate

489
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 2: in today's game, very much so, so you know.

490
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: It's fifty fifty month. Just for the record.

491
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Speaker 1: Matthew Boyd, who is not very good, honestly, hasn't he's

492
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: been okay, he got two years twenty nine million.

493
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 2: M hmm.

494
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: Frankie Mantas got what three years? It was at least

495
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 1: two at fifty to sixty million dollars Like those those

496
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: guys are not better than Charlie Morton. It's kind of

497
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy where the market's gone. But just

498
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: for just to use the actual names of people who

499
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 1: are basically in Charlie's neighborhood, if nothing else, they're getting

500
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Speaker 1: real money.

501
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:54,719
Speaker 2: Man.

502
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: This market is not just for the top guys. This

503
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: this market's all lot for everybody. It's been heated.

504
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. If you have a young one at home

505
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: and you're listening to the show tape a baseball, Yeah,

506
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: tape a baseball and his rider left hand and say

507
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: go get them, kid. You're going to carry this with

508
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 2: you everywhere because pitchers are getting paid at crazy levels

509
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: this winter. So I think for Charlie I wouldn't be

510
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 2: shocked if they circle back to him at some point

511
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 2: this offseason. I do think you probably can and should

512
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: aim higher and then just see where prices are, what

513
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 2: prospect costs are for players, if you're going to make

514
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: a trade again. I would certainly not put it at

515
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 2: zero percent that Charlie's coming back, but it might be

516
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 2: more like twenty twenty five percent to me. And as

517
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 2: you said what Jason Stark reported that Charlie might decide,

518
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,719
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm done, or you know what, the

519
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: best deal I have here is eight million dollars and

520
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: it's just not worth it to me as someone who's

521
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: made one hundred and twenty five million dollars in my

522
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 2: career or whatever it is. So Charlie, I think he's

523
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 2: on the back burner. If the Braves reunite again, it

524
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: seems doable. He would have a role on this team

525
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: for sure, even if it's just kind of a fifth innings,

526
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: fifth starter innings either. Yeah, teams need that and uh,

527
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: we'll see where where Charlie ultimately lands, assuming he wants

528
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: to keep pitching.

529
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone does.

530
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: And I'm trying not to be the Morton guy because

531
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm we agree by the way, he is not some

532
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: high profile got to have him that guy, even for me, Like,

533
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: I just think he's a reasonable option that they have

534
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: a relationship with. And uh, maybe this is for later

535
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 1: on the off season, but I kind of maybe hooke's

536
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: not the right word. I can imagine Charlie deciding he

537
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: doesn't want to pitch and then pulling a Roger Clemens

538
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: and coming back in like may hmm, you know what

539
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: I mean? Brave specifically, because the Braves have relationship, Like

540
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: somebody goes down and they're like, hey, Charlie, you sure

541
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: you don't want to pitch, buddy, here's eight million dollars

542
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: for four months, you know what I mean. Like, I'm

543
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: not saying it's gonna happen, but it's like that relationship

544
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 1: and the geography of it all. He likes to pitch

545
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: in the Southeast, all those things, Like I just wouldn't

546
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: close the door. But you're right, it's not likely to happen.

547
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's saying.

548
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: That it is.

549
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, Charlie will be around, Braves have time again. I

550
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: know everybody is fiending for a move anything. Hell, I

551
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: would take a j mintor re signing. I don't care.

552
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 3: Oh that's even that, that's higher that I was. I would.

553
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: I would take a platoon left fielder signing right now

554
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: to give.

555
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 3: Us something to talk about. Uh you know what I mean?

556
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: Just we would set records on the show.

557
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's true, if they just cyber more

558
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: Loreano back, it would be like shattering our downlads record

559
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: right here in mid December.

560
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 3: So no, I think we're in agreement there. I threw

561
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 3: up these names a couple of these games.

562
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: Already in regard to in regard to Morton, but just

563
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: to say them out loud. Andrew Heaney interesting fourth fifth

564
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: starter type. Nick Pavetta, same thing. Kyle Gibson is like

565
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: the most ning Zeter guy ever, not very good, just

566
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: but as a professional pitcher, like it doesn't is it

567
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: gonna kill you? Then you have like Hosey Kintana, not

568
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: very good, but same thing, veteran fifth starter type. They're

569
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: not none of None of these guys that are remaining

570
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: are particularly awesome names. The two old guys shurez Er

571
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: and Verlander out there. Lance Lynn is pretty old lower

572
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: Those are lower costs than I think what you have

573
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: to pay he Need or Pavetta. But just to say,

574
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of names in a road. Does anyone do

575
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: you like? Anybody of this list? Anyone appeal to you?

576
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: The only one I think I would be excited about

577
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: would be Nick Pavetta. He does do some things that

578
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: are interesting. He's not a perfect pitcher by any means,

579
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: but if his market maybe doesn't develop. You know, Pavetta

580
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: also has a qualifying offer attached, which I forgot.

581
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 3: I forgot about that, right he does.

582
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: That's that's not gonna be Uh well, I should I

583
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: should say what I always say. It wouldn't scare me off,

584
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: but it might scare some teams off. That's all I

585
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: would say about that.

586
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean the hit rate. I know, I

587
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: know the MLB draft is very unique with money and

588
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: slot bonuses and all that, But I mean just saying

589
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: what it is. The money allotted to a.

590
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: Third round pick or whatever the Braves would lose because

591
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: of that is is so small potatoes in the in

592
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: the grand scheme. If you want the guy, like you

593
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: have to Yeah, honestly, you have to really want the

594
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: player to do this. So it's not like, all right, well,

595
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: I guess we'll sign it Pavetta. Like you have to

596
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: actively want him to make it worth it. But if

597
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: you do want him, I personally don't care as much

598
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: as some seem too. There's some fans that even media

599
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: members are like, oh, Qualifi offer attached, cross them off.

600
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know about that. I wouldn't do

601
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 3: that necessarily.

602
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that impactful. Like you said, the Braves

603
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: are not just actively looking to get rid of their

604
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 2: draft picks by any means. But if the Veta's price

605
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 2: is kind of in their sweet spot and they do

606
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: like him, I think at the start of the off season,

607
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: I want to say, Jeff Passon said the Braves were

608
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: interested or at least had some level of interest in Pavetta.

609
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: Who knows that it's been a week since then, And

610
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: I really, I mean trying to guess the market for

611
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: starting pitchers right now. Whatever you think it is, yeah,

612
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: whatever you think it is at a year and twenty

613
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: million dollars more. But again, man, I mean the Braves

614
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: have to add somebody, and if they don't want to

615
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: unload the farm for a picture, then maybe you do

616
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 2: have to overpay a bit for Pavetta or one of

617
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: these remaining arms, because I mean, you can't go into

618
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 2: next season without doing anything. That would be terrifying to me.

619
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: And Alex has kind of said that, and we won't

620
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: do the whole spield now, but you do need ten

621
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: eleven twelve storry pitchers. It's something that's been researched that

622
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: we've laid out on the podcast before, Like people always

623
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: ignore it and point to like the top five or six,

624
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: but no, you got to have nine, ten eleven. Anyway,

625
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: let's move one to the outfield and we'll be shorter

626
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: on this. There are not that many options available on

627
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: the outfield. The top two as far as projections are concerned,

628
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: Anthony sent Tender and Tasker Hernandez not connected to the

629
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: Braves at all, either one of them right now. Doesn't

630
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: mean they can't sign them, but certainly not screaming off

631
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: the page at me as like super alexy targets. And

632
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: then you have Jerks and Profar who is kind of

633
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: in the I think he actually might be a little

634
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: bit alexy to be honest, I've circled him a little bit,

635
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: not that I've heard anything, but I think he'd be

636
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: more of the Braves speed.

637
00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: But I might be wrong about that.

638
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that trio. I think Profar is probably the

639
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: only one who I could really see the Braves going for.

640
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: I mean, Santander can really hit, but I mean I'm

641
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: guessing someone overpays. Maybe one of the teams that did

642
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: not get Soto overpay for him. You know. The other

643
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: outfielder who's kind of interesting to me, Brad is Max Kepler,

644
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: a guy who we've talked about. I know Sean and

645
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: Steven have talked about. We don't have to do twenty

646
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: more minutes on Max Kepler because frankly, he's just not

647
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: that good of a baseball player. But you know what,

648
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: he is totally fine if you tell me the Braves

649
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: add him as an outfielder, Okay, it'd be all right.

650
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: You know, I wouldn't be.

651
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: Super pumped, but you can do worse, and he's been

652
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: better at times, although he's coming off a down year

653
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. But you know, to me, of

654
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: all the free agent outfielders, that kind of group of

655
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: four I think are we'll call him needle movers, and

656
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: then there are a few others who I mean, sure

657
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: they could sign him, but I'm not sure it really

658
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: does anything more than like a Jared Kellneck could do

659
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: next year.

660
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of treated by Alexfordugo, not blown away

661
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: but intrigued.

662
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: Old Pad Jason Heyward.

663
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: I'd like to see back in a similar role that

664
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: he's been in before.

665
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: With some teams.

666
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: There are a couple of like dash leaning guys Jesse

667
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: Winker and old pal Jack Peterson. But the problem is

668
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: that defensively it's not great, and Jock's like almost a

669
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: basically at this point.

670
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: Jock is probably a moderately better jorgees Solayer. But again,

671
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: I mean he he was basically a full time DH.

672
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: He's getting older, even even when he was younger.

673
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: Josh too, so like Jock would mash Righty's and that

674
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: is very useful, which is I think it's appearing to

675
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: a lot of different people. But uh, the defense is

676
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: probably what stops the brace. But look, maybe there's a

677
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: price where it's worth it. I don't I don't think

678
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: that they would just cross the relationships there, of course.

679
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: I just think that there will be a team that

680
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: could him, that will give HM money in the brace

681
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: do that.

682
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, Jock is definitely going to have suitors. I

683
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: would be shocked if he's sitting around on February first

684
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: looking for a place to play.

685
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 3: He will not be.

686
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: The exact opposite of Jock is Harrison Bader, who is

687
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: a great defender who can't hit. I shouldn't say can't hit,

688
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: but it's a blow abagator. I don't know if the

689
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: Braves want that kind of player. I mean, I wouldn't

690
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: be the worst idea in the world, but they kind

691
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: of don't need him. If they did not Michael Harris,

692
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: then sure, but Baterer's value is kind of tied to

693
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: his glove. And then the other guy will just say

694
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: I think I mentioned him earlier, but Ramon Loreano's out there. Uh,

695
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: he won't move the needle. But if you were to

696
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: go into the season without the guy that you actually wanted,

697
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: and you wanted to just get a right handed bat

698
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: somewhere and the outfields a pair with Kellnick.

699
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: Ramond come on home for a reunion, maybe.

700
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's funny. I just did a write

701
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: up for Battery Power on Ramon Loriano's season, and again

702
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: we'll say it out the jump. Ramone was a godsend

703
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: for this show. Was like capital letters. This dude saved

704
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 2: the outfield. Everybody was hurt, nobody was hitting. But Loreano

705
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: carried a three ninety batting average on balls and play

706
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: for those who don't love that stat that is ninety

707
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 2: points higher than league average. And Ramone carried like a

708
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: three percent walk rate with the Braves.

709
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.

710
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: You are tiptoeing a very fine line of offensive production

711
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: if you don't walk and rely on a three to

712
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: ninety babbeb to get you get your home on offense. Again,

713
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: man not taking a thing away because he was.

714
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, Loreano was like the third best hitter

715
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: in this lineup behind Ozuna and Olsen the last two

716
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: months of the season.

717
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: But I you know, if they want to bring him back, sure,

718
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: but I don't think you can count on Loreano to

719
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: do much other than be a fourth outfielder for this team.

720
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: We agree horribly on that. So that's the outfield market

721
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: as far as again just free agency. There are trade

722
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: targets too, and we've said this more than most have,

723
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: but Alex is not afraid to make a trade Chris

724
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: Sale as a recent example. It's not always free agency

725
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: with this team. It is often trades in fact, so

726
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: keep that in mind. Shortstop, we don't have to do.

727
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: It again, do we.

728
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: It's hass On Kim or nothing. It feels like, yep,

729
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: are we good on that? Scotts on Kim and nothing

730
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: and shortstop, okay.

731
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: Move on? Yeah?

732
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: And then and then there's the relievers. Tanner Scott's the

733
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: big is the big name. I don't think there are

734
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: gonna sign Tenner Scott if I had to guess, but

735
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: he's out there. Honestly, after him, it's probably a j

736
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: minter for me anyway, as like the best guy available

737
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: maybe David Robertson, who is the Charlie Morton aged reliever

738
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: who will never die, who's still good after that, it's

739
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: like a bunch of like guys, ironically, a lot of

740
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: former Braves still available, a lot of old guys who

741
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: are former Braves. And also Michael. Also, Michael Soroka is

742
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: a by all accounts in a pre appealing reliever free

743
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: agent again, a stress reliever. Most teams view as a

744
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: reliever at this point, but he'd be pretty interesting in

745
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: that role.

746
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Siroka, Kirby Yate came off a great year.

747
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: He was Chris Martin. Maybe bring him back Chris Martin. Yeah,

748
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: you're right.

749
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: There really is a long list of.

750
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: Like, oh wow, old Braves guy Kelly Jensen is still

751
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: there too.

752
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not kidding Honestly, some injections they're like

753
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: they're like five of the next seven really or former Braves.

754
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: It's actually quite funny.

755
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: So, yeah, the Braves are gonna add something to the bullpen.

756
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: I think maybe the bullpen.

757
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: Might be a trade that they traded for all the

758
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: guys that they all the all the recent editions like

759
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: you know, Pierce Johnson and Aaron Book, they're all trades

760
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: everybody got.

761
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: They all traded for these guys. So it's not like

762
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 3: they just you know, do this.

763
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, like literally more than half of the bullpen, we're

764
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: all traded for.

765
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: A Gleasis was basically a fraid and signing. But they

766
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: traded for him, like they traded for a four year

767
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: contract more than anything else. But they did trade for him.

768
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't assigning, like he wasn't just available. So Alex

769
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: is not afraid to make trades. Anything else to add here.

770
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: Scott on on on players that are available in free agency.

771
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: That's kind of the rundown. If the list is like cut,

772
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: it's been like cut in half, but there's still a

773
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: lot of names here. It's just more of the exercise

774
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: of like trying to be comprehensive to say, all right,

775
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: there's always so many names available, So as they keep

776
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: come off the market, the market gets smaller and smaller

777
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: and smaller and smaller. It's still relatively early, but everybody

778
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 1: hates that is relatively early, but it's gonna get late

779
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: faster and faster.

780
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Usually with pre agency, there's the winter meetings, and

781
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: then there's usually like a two week period between the

782
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: Winter meetings and Christmas when all the front office is

783
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: closed down between basically Christmas and New Year's. But even

784
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: though the Braves didn't do something during the couple of

785
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: days at the winter meetings, a lot of times you'll

786
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: see a lot of activity, like the following weekend or

787
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 2: even like the following Monday and Tuesday. It just takes

788
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: time to get these deals together and see and then

789
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: once things kind of ramp back up, usually it's not

790
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: until like the second week of January when stuff starts

791
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: to happen, but there's usually a second wave from maybe

792
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: like January to the beginning of February, and then you're

793
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: to like pitchers and catchers reporting and kind of the

794
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: stragglers who sign on for late for whatever reason. But again,

795
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: I feel like we're broken records, but we know Alex

796
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 2: is working. I don't want this to sound like we're

797
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: Alex fanboys and we're just banging the drum. We really

798
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: want to move and all that. But you know, patients,

799
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: I know it's frustrating with patience is a virtue, and

800
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: we just kind of got to wait and for that

801
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: blue square to pop up and then see what way

802
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: they're going, because there are a lot of questions about

803
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 2: this team still.

804
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, the idea that Alex is just like sitting on

805
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,479
Speaker 1: a beach somewhere, which people are literally saying like Alex

806
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: is just like meddling it in.

807
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: I'm like, you guys are out of your mind.

808
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: So you know, I could guarantee he's making twenty calls

809
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: a day, or fifty calls a day, or a hundred calls,

810
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Uh, it's just that he works quietly,

811
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: which is usually a strength I think of Theirs.

812
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 3: But well we will see.

813
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: Speaking of the of the Blue Square, they did make

814
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: a couple of Rule five additions. We don't know nothing

815
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: about these guys, I will say, beyond their box scores.

816
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't maybe you do, Scott. But they brought in

817
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: Anderson Polar. I think it is from the Marlins right

818
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: headed pitcher Christian Cairo, a short stot for the Guardians organization.

819
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: Both guys could be in camp looking for depth roles,

820
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: but there are the intriguing sort of circumstances with Rule

821
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: five picks where you've gotta have to keep him around.

822
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe the Braves.

823
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 2: The Braves really have not done a ton of Rule

824
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: five drafting in recent years as a just a quick refresher.

825
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: So basically it's it's players who were not put on

826
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 2: forty man rosters by other teams who have contract stipulations

827
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: or rules that you either have to be on the

828
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 2: forty man or you risk losing the player to the

829
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: Rule five draft. When the Braves took two players, I

830
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: was like, wow, okay, they haven't done that in a minute.

831
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: But essentially, if they want to keep Anderson Polar or

832
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: Christian Castro around. They essentially have to be on the

833
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 2: twenty six man roster all year long or they risk

834
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: being returned to their old team. Yep. It only costs

835
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand bucks to draft these players, if you will.

836
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: So it's kind of.

837
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: That is that is basically free? Yeah, that for a

838
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: baseball team. That's the that's that's free for you and I, Scott,

839
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: we couldn't afford to pay.

840
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: You know, that's one hundred grand Brad, that's right.

841
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: But no, I mean, okay, ask you this symbill move

842
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: a lot of promise. What are the chances that they

843
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: both are on the team all year long?

844
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 2: Oh? I was gonna say two percent? Okay, So I

845
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 2: actually I actually think Anderson Polar, the reliever from the Marlins,

846
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: has a it's pretty interesting. You know.

847
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: He has relievers too, Like relievers ye come out of nowhere.

848
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I will say this, I kind of trust

849
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: Alex to find relievers. He's been doing it his entire

850
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: time in Atlanta. They've been good or always better than

851
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: the people thought they were going to be at the bullpen.

852
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not saying that he's going to

853
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: be one of them, but they see something that they

854
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: like and for that be the eighth man of the bullpen.

855
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: Like it's pretty low bar so like I kind of

856
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: think he might be a relevant piece.

857
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: Chelsey. Yeah, it's effectively one hundred thousand dollars tryout to

858
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: spring training. If they're not good or you just squeeze

859
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: them off the roster, you give them back, more than

860
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: likely you're not out anything at all. And but yeah,

861
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: so we'll keep an eye on these guys in the

862
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: spring and maybe they flash. It's not I mean, there

863
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: are stories of Rule five draft picks being I think

864
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: Justin Turner is like the most famous who went on

865
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: to have an incredible career. I think I think Turner

866
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: was a Rule five pick, unless I'm mixing him up

867
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: with someone, which I don't know, but regardless, actually you

868
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: know who.

869
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: You know who else was?

870
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: I remember this now from looking at something else. Uh,

871
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: Anthony said, tend there rule five pick. Oh wow, and

872
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,479
Speaker 1: now he's gonna get Now he's gonna get a hundred

873
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: million dollars probably from somebody, so not a bad lie. Yeah,

874
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's again, that's mostly the outlier. It's

875
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: usually not guys they like like that, but they do

876
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: happen every once in a while. Scott before me that

877
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: here I got a pretty interesting mailbag question. And it's

878
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: not from me, folks, I promise it's from Brad F.

879
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: Not Brad or Brad F set this question into us.

880
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: Didn't make it up, I promise. He asks us, if

881
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: all of the Phragian deals so far that have been signed,

882
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: are there any that you flat out wish the Braves

883
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: would have signed for the price that they actually got,

884
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: And Brad throws out that his pick is Kakuchi, which

885
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: is three years asking some three million dollars.

886
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:52,959
Speaker 3: Not an a reasonable pick.

887
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: You go, fort Scott, anybody you want, anybody you want

888
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: that's been signed so far, you could say once, so

889
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: if you want to, it just wouldn't have would have

890
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: never happened. It's us not the craziest answer that I

891
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: would that you could give. But okay, yeah, well, also

892
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: we'll try to be realistic ish with the Braves constraints.

893
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: You and I are very big on the it's not

894
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: our money thing, which I still stand by, like sign

895
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: everybody you want to, all of you come down.

896
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 3: But it was cross Soto off because that.

897
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: Was not going to actually happen. But I guess everybody

898
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 1: else is for sure, you know, of all the deals

899
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: so far, it's good question. Blake Snell got a ton

900
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: of money on a yearly basis. We got the big

901
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: signing bonus, but you know, five for one eighty two.

902
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: The fact that it's only five years for Snell made

903
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: it really intriguing to me because when Max got eight.

904
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: That's the thing, like, compare those two guys. Snell is

905
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: probably better than Max right now and I've got three

906
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: three last years. Yeah, and Corbyn Burns is probably going

907
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: to get eight years as well. So I would have

908
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: done the Blake Snell deal and.

909
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: Just pray that he stays mostly healthy for those five

910
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: years because it is a lot of yearly You know,

911
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: Nathan Eovaldi for three years seventy five million didn't like

912
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: make me fall out of my chair. It's it's more

913
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: money than I was thinking or what I would have

914
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: wanted to pay. But you know, at the end of

915
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 2: the day, if I was down with like a three year,

916
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: sixty million dollar contract, is five million dollars more a

917
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 2: season when the team's running a two hundred and fifty

918
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: million dollars payroll, Is it that much? No? Not really,

919
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: so Snell and Eovaldi were the kind of the bigger,

920
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: more recent signings I would have been cool with. And

921
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 2: then Shane Bieber, who there was some reporting that Bieber

922
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: took less money to stay in Cleveland, where he's been

923
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: his whole career. I would have done Shane Bieber. It

924
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: was ten million bucks and then a sixteen million dollar

925
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: option next year. That kind of feels like a no

926
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: lose proposition to me, unless he gets hurt again. But really,

927
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: of all the deals, you know, Williadamas, I love Willia Damas,

928
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 2: but man, seven years for a guy who's going to

929
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: be like thirty six or thirty seven when that deal ends,

930
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: that's kind of scary. Yeah, So I would say, if

931
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: I had to pick one, I would be down with

932
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: Blake Snell just because of how I mean, he was

933
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: literally the best pitcher in the game, up there with

934
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 2: Chris Sale pretty much once he got healthy and returned

935
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 2: in the middle of the summer. If if he's anything

936
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: close to that going forward, I mean, goodness, gracious.

937
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the high dollar, high dollar guys, that's probably the

938
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: right answer. I agree with you a whole heart of that.

939
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: They of aaldi.

940
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: I would have if you said okay, right now on

941
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: December twelfth, knowing when we do what we know about

942
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: the market and what's left, I would have done that.

943
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit of an overpay free Evaldi,

944
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: but I would have done it. It's only three years,

945
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: which is a big part of that too. I like

946
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: the Cuuci too. I think that you could argue he's

947
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: a better value than he of Aldy, Like they're pretty

948
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: similar pictures at least last year, and he got four

949
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: million a year.

950
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: Less, Like that's not that's not nothing to uh for that.

951
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: I think Tyler O'Neill not what the Braves needed as

952
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: far as like he's a right headed bat all those

953
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: things like that's probably when they didn't get.

954
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: And that was it.

955
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: That was probably the most reasonable value of anyone that's

956
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: signed so far. This winner three for forty nine over

957
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 1: that was Alex Cobb is like extremely brazy. They didn't

958
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: do it, but it was one year, fifteen million. That's

959
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: like an Alex contract. Bieber's the right answer, Like it's

960
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: kind of a cheat code because, like you said, I

961
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: got reported multiple times for multiple people that he took

962
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: less money. So it's like, hey, give me the guy

963
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: took Less to stay. But we were not revigious there.

964
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: I was on.

965
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: We brought Bieber early. We were all like, hey, sign

966
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: Shane Bieber, like that was like two months ago.

967
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: We said that. So I don't know if if.

968
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: I gotta pick one, I don't want to agree with

969
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: the question. It might be Kakoucie, but I'll say I

970
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: will say Eovaldi still, even though that's too much money

971
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: for him. But there's the old adage that I think

972
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: Steven and Sean brought up the other day that it's

973
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: an Andrew Friedman quote. But if you're if you're in

974
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: on every free agent, and you're and you're trying to

975
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: be rational, you'll finish third and every free agent.

976
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 3: That's kind of where we are right now.

977
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 2: Man.

978
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: The market is what the market, what the market is.

979
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: And I'm not kidding you. I looked today again just

980
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: to make sure I wasn't crazy. There is not a

981
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: single deal of a top fifty ish free agent that

982
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: I think was actually a bargain. The closest one is

983
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: Tyler O'Neal I think, and besides Bieber, who again took

984
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: Less and as a recogbection project coming off of an

985
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: injury et cetera. Of the guys who are healthy, every

986
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: single person got as much or more than they were

987
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: projected to get. That's it's kind of crazy. That's just

988
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: where we are.

989
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: Man. Everybody's getting paid Yeah, ten to fifteen to twenty

990
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: percent across the board, and not just one projection. Like,

991
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: it's not only MLB trade rumors was low on these guys, ESPN,

992
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 2: Fangraphs trade rumors even like the crowdsourcing numbers that fangraphs

993
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: does where all of them players by the way, you know,

994
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 2: players get like five thousand predictions from from like knowledgeable fans,

995
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: fans who go to fangraphs, like you're more than your

996
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 2: casual baseball fans, and even they like blew away those expectations.

997
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: We should do a show about this at some point. Maybe,

998
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: I just it's just kind of occurring to me now

999
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: in real time. This is like Alex's nightmare market.

1000
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: Oh, like, just gave it.

1001
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: It's not like breaking news or anything. I'm just saying that.

1002
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: Allow like Alex tends to not like to be the

1003
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: top person on the top sexy free agent, and that's

1004
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: when every single, every single one of these guys has

1005
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: been like that and it's kind of crazy, like I'm

1006
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: sure he's pulling his hair out right now. And look,

1007
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: there's a whole debate maybe we can have on a

1008
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: podcast in the near future that I'm not blaming fans,

1009
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: Like there are fans that are just like, do something now.

1010
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: I don't care. Pay the guy whatever Alex stinks, Fire

1011
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: him because we won't pay somebody that's all silly. Of course,

1012
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: there are degrees to this, but I get that there's

1013
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: a school of thought that Alex is too patient. And

1014
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: I know myself enough to know that I am dead

1015
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: inside and I cover I cover sports more professionally, less

1016
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: emotionally than most, So it doesn't bother me because the

1017
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: results have been so good for so long from Alex.

1018
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: He's not foolproof. He misses, he misses on stuff, no

1019
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: question about that. But like it's easier for me to

1020
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: be like, guys speak. I know you said this earlier, Scott,

1021
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: you're saying it too, but I do get it, especially

1022
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: winter meetings when like the whole world's throwing money around

1023
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: and you just do nothing. Like even I, the dead

1024
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: inside person'saying, all right, guys, well what are we doing?

1025
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 3: It's time to do something?

1026
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know what, rad if we were here

1027
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 2: and a dozen free agents had signed contracts that were

1028
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: like very fair and reasonable, and if there had been

1029
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 2: two dozen trades already where it's like damn okay for

1030
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: like the ninth prospect in the Braves's mediocre system would

1031
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: have been you know, enough to get a player who

1032
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: would have been an impact edition, then I think we'd

1033
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: be pounding the table a little bit harder. Again, it

1034
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 2: might get to that point in the offseason where we're

1035
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: doing a show it's like, what the hell, what are

1036
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 2: they doing?

1037
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: Like we've already said that, but like and we're not

1038
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: afraid to do that, Like if they get if they

1039
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: don't do anything, if they dunk the luxury tax for

1040
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 1: money reasons, like.

1041
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call them out for it.

1042
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1043
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: I'm not afraid of doing that at all.

1044
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: It's just that it's December twelfth, and I think some

1045
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: of the reaction is acting like it's February twelfth. If

1046
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: it's February twelfth and this is the roster, we're gonna

1047
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: have some pointed questions. Yeah, I just don't think we're

1048
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: there yet another month. Questions get louder a month after that,

1049
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, we're gonna have meltdowns, and not

1050
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: just for the content and look substantively, we want content

1051
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: to talk about the podcast, but also as people that

1052
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: are covering the team and looking at baseball all day long.

1053
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, just go ahead and get in the market. So

1054
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 3: I think Alex could do something. I'm he's just never not.

1055
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 3: It's not it's not.

1056
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: It's not like copy where there was a deal every

1057
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: five minutes. But Alex, it's not a passive executive. He's

1058
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: been very creative aggressive. You know, he's not gonna sit

1059
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 1: back and do nothing. I just don't see that happening.

1060
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 3: So we'll see.

1061
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: And when so much of your core is signed to

1062
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: long term deals.

1063
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: That that's the thing.

1064
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like you there is there is left

1065
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: to do for the brains that there are for a

1066
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: lot of teams. And that's the thing about signing everyone

1067
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: to that blue square is that you're just locked in.

1068
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: Like how many teams in baseball have seven of their

1069
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 1: nine positions just totally locked in on December twelve?

1070
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, very few.

1071
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 3: The Breds will maybe go.

1072
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: Only one like and I mean not even locked in,

1073
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: like firmly locked in, like with a guy that they like,

1074
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: super duper like at all of those spots like it's hard.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to do that and also make a ton

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Speaker 1: of moves.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, patients, we will get there sooner hopefully rather

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Speaker 2: than later. But yeah, I mean, I know, if we

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Speaker 2: don't get a move in like a week, Brad, the

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Speaker 2: Twitter streets might be set on fire.

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Speaker 1: But Steve off the air at some point we don't

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Speaker 1: get a move, Steven's gonna have a mount down on

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Speaker 1: the air if we don't have a move, high Steven,

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Speaker 1: just to take listeners behind the curtain. I texted Scott

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Speaker 1: today and said we should we should do a show.

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Speaker 1: How how about twenty twenty five minutes or at the

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Speaker 1: fifty minute mark because Scott and I are talking about

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Speaker 1: baseball that's what we do.

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Speaker 3: So sorry about this for the long give up. Probably

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Speaker 3: like this though we're.

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Speaker 1: Going to the weekend, a little longer episode, a little bit,

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Speaker 1: a little the loose episode on a Thursday night. In

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00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: some respects, other people enjoyed it. Scott, anything else to add?

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Speaker 1: If not, please tell books that might be new to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. They're just finding us now. By the way,

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Speaker 1: if this is your first episode, God bless you. We're

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00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: button up sometimes. But hey, Scott, what's going on where

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Speaker 1: if people find you on social media and such?

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Speaker 2: I am at Scott Coleman fifty five wherever you do

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Speaker 2: your social media. Nice to do one of these extended

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Speaker 2: shows with you, Brad on a Thursday night here. Hope

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Speaker 2: everybody out there is doing well, and yeah, man, let's

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Speaker 2: get a deal. Well, I'll I'll get on the phone

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Speaker 2: with Alex and say, listen, buddy, I know you promised

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Speaker 2: me me directly a deal over the weekend for podcast content.

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Speaker 2: But I stuff happens. Let's let's get it going here.

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Speaker 2: Maybe like a nice Monday morning deal or something like

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Speaker 2: that for the people.

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Speaker 1: That would be nice for everyone involved, other than maybe me,

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Speaker 1: because I'm going to Las Vegas to cover the Atlanta Hawks,

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Speaker 1: the red hot, scalding hot NBA Cup semifinal team, Atlanta Hawks, Scott,

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Speaker 1: your favorite basketball team.

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Speaker 3: I'm kidding.

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Speaker 1: It's late in the podcast so I can talk about

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00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: the Hawks a little bit. But hey, we'll be here

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00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: with podcast content. Please follow the show all over the

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00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: place on social media. Edition to following Scott were at

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00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: Hammer Territory on Twitter, Facebook, threads, Instagram. I don't think

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Speaker 1: about Blue Sky count Yeah, I'll change that at some

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Speaker 1: point in the future. I'm a bt roll. If you

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Speaker 1: going to find me, and the big thing is all

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00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: joking aside. Please subscribe to the show and download the show,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. We're on Apple, We're on Spotify, Amazon Music, Overcast.

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Speaker 1: YouTube is popping now. People just want to see Sean

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Speaker 1: Coleman on camera. It's all everybody ever talks about. Subscribe

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Speaker 1: to the podcast. Leave comments. Oh that's their thing, Scott.

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Speaker 1: We have a prompt for everybody. If you made it

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Speaker 1: this far, oh, go to YouTube and leave a comment

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Speaker 1: with the contract that you would have wanted to sign.

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Speaker 1: We want to hear from you. The question was Kakuchi.

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00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: We gave our answers. Let us know on YouTube or

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Speaker 1: on Spotify. You go to com on Spotify. I've found

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Speaker 1: that out recently. Come on Spotify. Comment on most places

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Speaker 1: to tell us why we're dumb maybe, but also which

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Speaker 1: contract that you would have wanted the Rips to sign

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Speaker 1: for what they actually got? I forgot, Scott, so right now,

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Speaker 1: but I on the air, So here we go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun, man, Like you know, it's another place

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Speaker 2: to talk ball with other Braves fans. And sometimes other

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Speaker 2: fans like we you know, we had like a Padres

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00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: fan in our comments not too long ago, like you know,

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Speaker 2: it's it's a good place, and hey, it's it's the winner.

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Speaker 2: We still got three and a half months until we

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Speaker 2: have real baseball games to talk about. Why not let

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Speaker 2: us know what free agent deal you would have done

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Speaker 2: for the Braves and and yeah, it should be fun.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully next couple of days we get some action.

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, it's all we have this evening. There

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Speaker 1: will not be another show until next week unless there's

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Speaker 1: a move. If there's a move, we will spring into action.

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00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: If not, it would be sen there we have a

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00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: new podcast. But anyway, please stay tuned and please subscribe

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Speaker 1: the show and we'll see you all next time.