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Speaker 1: Welcome into another episode of the Official Colts Podcast here

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Speaker 1: in the Colts Audio Network and on the Colts YouTube page.

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Speaker 1: I'm JJ Stanker. It's in the hot seat for Matt Taylor,

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Speaker 1: who's announcing that Sting and Billy Joel are coming to Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Why did they not have you? Jj?

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Speaker 1: Because Matt Taylor is a much bigger music fan than me,

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Speaker 1: and it's gotter at that job. And I can be

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Speaker 1: all right, I don't know what that is.

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Speaker 3: It's like, who is the Ason? What is Slash? Who

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Speaker 3: are these people?

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Speaker 4: Well, I will be the first to say, you know what.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of refreshing seeing you in here. JJ.

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Speaker 5: Thanks.

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Speaker 4: I feel like like Bill and I have said this,

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Speaker 4: you know, we are going to admit it too loud,

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Speaker 4: but there are times where we feel like kind of

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Speaker 4: the you know, we're the backups there on Thursday, so

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Speaker 4: we got part of the starting crew here.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to think that I'd like to think that

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Speaker 1: you guys are coming out of the bullpen. We're like

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Speaker 1: the closers, right, you got you got your middle reliever,

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Speaker 1: you got your you know, your lefty specialists, which doesn't

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Speaker 1: exist anymore. And then we go to the closer got

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Speaker 1: the strings.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll take that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. All right, Well this is the

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Speaker 1: Official Colts Podcast again. That's that's Bill Brooks. I'm JJ Stankowitz.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot to get into previewing Colts and

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Speaker 1: Steelers on Sunday at Lucas Oil Stadium. Let's start here

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Speaker 1: just with some injury updates case the the Colts. As

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Speaker 1: we're recording this, we have not got the Thursday injury report.

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Speaker 1: But on Wednesday, Quity Pay did not practice with a quad,

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Speaker 1: annymore of the second did not practice with a hip.

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Speaker 1: Braiden Smith did not practice with a knee. Right, If

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Speaker 1: any of those guys were to miss this game, whose

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Speaker 1: absence maybe would be felt the most Casey?

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Speaker 4: And that's that's a loaded one because with Braiden Smith,

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Speaker 4: you know that TJ. Watt is typically going to line

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Speaker 4: up right of the ninety percent of the time. Now,

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Speaker 4: last year in the meeting, Braiden was not out there,

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Speaker 4: So Blake Freeland got that got that role.

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Speaker 3: This year looks like Mackinsalvez is going to be that guy.

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Speaker 4: So if that is this position, it's a hey, welcome

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Speaker 4: to the to the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Here rookie moment.

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Speaker 4: So I would say it's a mix between Braiden, but

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Speaker 4: you also know what Kenny does just from the veteran

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Speaker 4: everything about it. And I'm not this is not a

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Speaker 4: stab at the Steelers offensive weapons, but as far as

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Speaker 4: their receiving output, you really like what Kenny can offer

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Speaker 4: in you know a little bit more of that pass

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Speaker 4: rush game too, because I think in a way this

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Speaker 4: this offense is as threatening down the field as maybe

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Speaker 4: you would see with some of the like even with

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Speaker 4: Chicago last week. So I feel like Kenny can kind

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Speaker 4: of impact the game in multiple ways. Quitty is always

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Speaker 4: going to be a big loss, but the depth up front,

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Speaker 4: you can kind of see that filled with a couple

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Speaker 4: other guys. So I would say it's kind of a

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Speaker 4: toss up between Braiden and Kenny for me.

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Speaker 1: All right, I want to ask this question before we

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Speaker 1: get into the Steelers preview and also an interview I

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Speaker 1: did to trace sermon that we're gonna we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: in here to the Colts running back Bill, is Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Taylor the Colt's most important player right now?

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Speaker 6: I would say yes, and then real and I say

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Speaker 6: that is because you know, anytime you have a running game,

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Speaker 6: a solid running game. Teams have to be aware of that.

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Speaker 6: And your running game. From an offensive standpoint one, you

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Speaker 6: can control the line of scrimmage. If you run the

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Speaker 6: and possession, one of the things that we have lacked

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Speaker 6: in this year. So I would say that having a

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Speaker 6: good running game can do that, and then also helps

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Speaker 6: set up the play action pass down the field, which

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Speaker 6: you can use you Elija wide receivers and your tight

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Speaker 6: trying to you know he's going to go improve, okay,

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Speaker 6: having played as well last week as he wanted to play,

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Speaker 6: and I think if he can continue to work at

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Speaker 6: until that time comes, you have a Jonathan Taylor who

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Speaker 6: can make the big plays keep you in games, and

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Speaker 6: he can have those explosive plays as well. So I

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Speaker 6: think Jonathan Taylor plays a big part in this offense

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Speaker 6: and he can do a lot. I mean, you see

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Speaker 6: how he runs the ball. He runs the ball, runs

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Speaker 7: He hits the holes and you.

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Speaker 6: Know that's what you want in a running back, and

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Speaker 6: of scrimmage as far as the offensive players are concerned

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Speaker 6: and run the ball and get some first downs for you.

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Speaker 6: So I think right now, at this point, yes, Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Casey, given the way the NFL has gone over the

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Speaker 1: over our heads, right, and now you're seeing more and

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Speaker 1: more light boxes, I think, I So I look this up,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I'm kind of like an advanced stat

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Speaker 1: nerd uh. EPA per play it's not the Environmental Protection Agency,

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Speaker 1: but expected points added per play Runs are still significantly

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Speaker 1: Now from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four, it's

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Speaker 1: also negative. But in the absence of these explosive passing offenses,

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Speaker 1: You don't see that anymore. In the absence of that,

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Speaker 1: you're seeing this kind of renaissance of running backs. Of hey,

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Speaker 1: it's important to go pay Saquon Barkley, it's important to

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Speaker 1: go pay Jonathan Taylor. Having that weapon within your offense.

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Speaker 1: You have a running back who can generate explosive plays,

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Speaker 5: That's that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you study the league, you see around it,

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Speaker 1: having that guy seems to be critically important.

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Speaker 4: Now it's so ironic because the NFL, you know, a

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Speaker 4: lot of times it comes back to its roots, like

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Speaker 4: there's outliers always, and the running back market over the

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Speaker 4: last couple of years has been brutal.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've got your top guys.

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Speaker 4: Jonathan's clearly in that he got paid as that it

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Speaker 4: makes sense, but you you mean, think about just the

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Speaker 4: He didn't get a massive contract. When it comes to

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Speaker 4: is probably you know this year his numbers are down,

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Speaker 4: for sure, we saw what happened last week. He's but

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Speaker 4: it shows the importance of that position and kind of

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Speaker 4: going back to what you talk about with Saquon Barkley,

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Speaker 4: he's having a you know, kind of that resurgence in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 4: and Jonathan Taylor is clearly right now looking more like

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Speaker 4: the Jonathan Taylor we saw when he busted off for

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Speaker 4: eighteen hundred yards, which is only a benefit we talk about.

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Speaker 4: You ask if he's the most important player. All of

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Speaker 4: that plays into it. Anthony Richardson's going to be better.

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Speaker 4: The defense is going to be better, Your receivers are

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Speaker 4: going to be better. Your offense is going to be

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Speaker 4: better when Jonathan Taylor is playing that way.

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Speaker 1: I actually think JT looks better. Oh and he did

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. It's different. Right after twenty twenty one, JT.

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Speaker 1: He had some of that patience and some of that vision.

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Speaker 1: But now he's in year five in the NFL. It

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Speaker 1: it looks like he's a like you hear a lot

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Speaker 1: about how Josh Allen, Right, Josh Allen came into the

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Speaker 1: league as the Bills quarterback, and he was just big guy,

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Speaker 1: throw it hard, right, throw it far. And now you're

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Speaker 1: seeing Josh Allen operate things and manipulate things like he's

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Speaker 1: drew freaking breeze. But with the arm that he has.

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Speaker 1: You're seeing a little bit of that with Jonathan Taylor,

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Speaker 1: where you can tell he understands exactly what defenses are

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Speaker 1: trying to do to him. He understands exactly how a

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Speaker 1: able to get If a play is blocked up for

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Speaker 1: five yards, he'll get you twenty. That is so important

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Speaker 1: when explosive plays are down across the NFL, he can

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Speaker 1: generate them because of his ability to get more than

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Speaker 4: And I'm glad you brought that up because he talked

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Speaker 4: his patience. It all goes back to his film study.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm not saying that three years ago he didn't

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Speaker 4: watch film, But as you grow in the league, the

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Speaker 4: of take in your film just continues to expand.

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Speaker 3: You mature and all of that. So part of it he.

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Speaker 4: Mentions it like, yeah, I know what a defensive tendency

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Speaker 3: What this side.

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Speaker 4: You know these corners over here, what they do, what

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Speaker 4: these linebackers do. I know how I can be patient

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Speaker 4: if the run's going here, and I know that I can.

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Speaker 3: Bust it that way.

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Speaker 4: So he broke it down with not necessarily watching his

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Speaker 4: film or running backs film. It's almost like I'm watching

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Speaker 4: just what a defense does on certain run plays to

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Speaker 4: know how they react if I change it up. And

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Speaker 4: that you talk about maturity there, you're probably on point

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Speaker 4: saying there are times where he looks better than he

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Speaker 4: did then. Because this Jonathan Taylor, man, you can win

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Speaker 4: a lot of football games playing like this bill.

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Speaker 1: If the Colts have to figure out ways to win

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Speaker 1: while Anthony Richardson is developing, it seems like having Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Taylor and the offensive line that they've got right now.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, it's not just the line, it's

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Speaker 1: the tight ends. Yes, those guys are exactly MOILEI Cox,

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Speaker 1: Drew Ogletree, Kyle Guts and they're doing a fantastic job.

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Speaker 1: If you look at it. By Pro Football Focus grade,

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Speaker 1: the Colts offensive line and tight end groups combined have

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Speaker 1: the highest PFF run block and grade in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's at like four points ahead of the next team.

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Speaker 1: It's significant.

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Speaker 7: That's good.

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Speaker 1: How can you lean into that identity where Okay, maybe Anthony,

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Speaker 1: he's got to get the footwork cleaned up a little bit,

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Speaker 1: But you know what if we hand it off to

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor and we use Anthony's legs, how can you

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Speaker 1: lean into that identity early in a season to then

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Speaker 1: maybe later in a year, later in the year to

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Speaker 1: be able to kind of pivot and start throwing it

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Speaker 1: a little bit more.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know that's going to be your bread and

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Speaker 6: butter as far as that identity, as far as we're

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Speaker 6: gonna set the tone up front against a defensive front,

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Speaker 6: and we're gonna make sure we just pound the ball,

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Speaker 6: pound the ball, and we have a running back that

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Speaker 6: can get us, get us those tough yards, as you said,

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Speaker 1: Kind of a fun one with all the pushing and shoving.

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Speaker 5: I respect it a lot.

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Speaker 1: For you to get that moment, to discore your first

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Speaker 5: It really shows a lot.

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Speaker 2: You know, my model is, you know, control what I

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Speaker 1: But what's this journey been like for you? Going from

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Speaker 1: It's your old college teammate, Justin Fields. What's your favorite

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Speaker 5: And he got me.

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Speaker 5: It's a great feeling.

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Speaker 1: You're working with one of the most patient running backs

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Speaker 1: All Right, You're going on your four in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: When people come up to you and they say, hey, Trey, like,

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Speaker 5: I really just have to say, you know, just the atmosphere.

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Speaker 2: I mean just walking out that tone. It's a different

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Speaker 5: It's nothing like him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely the feeling. I mean it's again it

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Speaker 1: For you, last year, that Steelers game was kind of

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Speaker 1: Just kind of get getting the success here in Indie

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Speaker 2: I feel like it did a lot for me. Not

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Speaker 2: I get my opportunity, I know I can just go

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Speaker 2: ahead and take full advantage of it and just kind

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Speaker 2: of getting that rhythm. I mean, again, that's the thing

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Speaker 2: with a running back, you getting a rhythm.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you'll definitely find a lot of success.

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Speaker 1: All right, looking forward to having a lot more success

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Speaker 1: this year here at the Colts. Trey Sermon joining us

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Speaker 1: here on the Official Colts Podcast. All right, thanks again

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Speaker 1: to Trey Sermon for taking some time out of his

449
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Speaker 1: day talking about Justin Fields and the undefeated Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I think you kind of have to start. You don't

451
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Speaker 1: start the quarterback here, you start the head coach, Casey.

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Speaker 1: We were just laughing before we came back on here

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Speaker 1: that some people in Pittsburgh thought, is this the end

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Speaker 1: of the Mike Tomlin Arrow. Last year they went ten

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Speaker 1: and seven and made the playoffs with Kenny Pickett and

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Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky as their quarterbacks. Now they've got another Chicago

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Speaker 1: Bears cast off quarter right. Rue, They're undefeated. Their defenses

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Speaker 1: are averaging eight points a game. Mike Tomlin eight Yes,

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. Over his seventeen full seasons as Steelers head coach.

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Speaker 1: You probably know this by now if you're listening to this,

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Speaker 1: He's never been below five hundred in his career. He's

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Speaker 1: only fifty two. He's eleventh in NFL history the one

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy six wins bill. When Mike Tomlin's career

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Speaker 1: is over, which could be in twenty.

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Speaker 3: Years, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about him as one of the

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Speaker 1: best coaches ever.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: If we're not doing that already.

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Speaker 6: By far, you have to talk to about him as

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Speaker 6: one of the best coaches in the National Football League

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Speaker 6: history because of what he's done. I mean just his

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Speaker 6: record right now, as far as never having a losing

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Speaker 6: season in seventeen seasons, I think that's great. But what's

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Speaker 6: more important to me is what he gets out of

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Speaker 6: his team. A lot of times he doesn't have the

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Speaker 6: best athletes on his team. He doesn't have the best players.

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Speaker 7: Yes, TJ.

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Speaker 6: Watt is very good, don't get me wrong. He is

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Speaker 6: one of the better players in the National Football League,

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Speaker 6: but over the years he has injuries. The quarterbacks aren't

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Speaker 6: maybe the top level quarterbacks that you're looking for, but

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Speaker 6: he gets the most out of his team every single year.

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Speaker 6: He knows what with buttons to push. He motivates them to.

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Speaker 7: Be ready to play, and they play.

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Speaker 6: A certain style, and that style is to play physical

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Speaker 6: and that's the Pittsburgh Steelers style.

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Speaker 7: That's their thing.

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Speaker 6: They hang a hat on is we're going to play

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Speaker 6: physical football. And usually what we're going to do is

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Speaker 6: this is going to be good enough to keep us

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Speaker 6: out of trouble, but we're going to win the game

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Speaker 6: on defense. And they play a good defense, very physical.

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Speaker 6: They get after you. They of course keep him from

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Speaker 6: scoring usually they have Usually they win a time possession

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Speaker 6: because they like to run the ball themselves and usually

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Speaker 6: a lot offenses are three and out or maybe four

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Speaker 6: or five plays.

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Speaker 7: And that's it.

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Speaker 6: He has a formula and no one can replicate that

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Speaker 6: formula right now because he wins football games. I mean,

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Speaker 6: he is one of the best coaches in the National

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Speaker 6: Football League.

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Speaker 4: It's wild to think that, you know, the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 4: one of the most storied franchises have had.

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Speaker 1: Three coaches since the merger.

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Speaker 4: Three coaches Chuck Nole arguably one of the greatest, Bill Cower,

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Speaker 4: a great coach, and now Mike Tomlin. I mean it

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Speaker 4: truly is remarkable. And I grew up my dad is

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Speaker 4: a Steelers fan because when he was here, there was

511
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Speaker 4: no team. You had to pick somebody. So I have

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Speaker 4: heard about, you know, how how great the Pittsburgh's, but

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Speaker 4: you can't deny it. I mean, Mike Tomlin is the

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Speaker 4: cream of the cross. I mean he's so good. And

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Speaker 4: last year, as we mentioned before, we were kind of

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Speaker 4: laughing about it, but I truly was like, what is

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Speaker 4: wrong with their fans thinking that this might truly be.

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Speaker 1: The we got to get you rid to know how

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Speaker 1: good you have it. I mean it's it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Mean you say, seventeen seasons you've never had a losing

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Speaker 4: I mean that's typically probably won every three years. Every

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Speaker 4: NFL team probably has a down year.

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Speaker 1: Also, everyone wants to be on the oh you should

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Speaker 1: tank and get a high draft pick train until you're

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Speaker 1: actually on it exactly, and then you go through the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two season like we had here that was

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Speaker 1: not a fun year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you see that.

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Speaker 4: That's a great point because it's almost like back in

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Speaker 4: the day with with Brady and Belichick, like you deal

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Speaker 4: with having that late round pick, and you just establish

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Speaker 4: a culture, you establish a style that you just you

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Speaker 4: get players to buy into that and it elevates everybody's play.

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Speaker 4: And that's what Mike Tomlin has done.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly brought it up this week in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: He's like, sometimes it doesn't even matter who puts the

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Speaker 1: helmet on for them, They're gonna play the Steeler way.

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Speaker 1: They're going to play to a certain standard. And I

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Speaker 1: mean you know that Mike Tomlin sets that standard. Yes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean so much respect for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Again, no one's surprised that the Steelers are undefeated right now.

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Speaker 1: They're rolling into town to the three and oh record

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Speaker 1: because Mike Tomlin's their coach. Of course they are. Of

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Speaker 1: course they're gonna win ten ten games, and I mean

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Speaker 1: they made the playoffs last year, and they made the

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Speaker 1: playoffs last year.

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Speaker 7: I mean, they just get the most out of their players.

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Speaker 6: Like I say, outside of Ben Roethlisberger, as far as

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Speaker 6: the quarterback, to me, their quarterback situation usually is in flux,

551
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Speaker 6: don't know what's going to happen, and on the team,

552
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Speaker 6: but he gets the most out of his players, all

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Speaker 6: the players around the quarterback, the quarterbacks, the defensive guys,

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Speaker 6: and like you said, you know where they hang the

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Speaker 6: hat on. It's on the defense side of the ball

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Speaker 6: and playing physical. And that's what they're gonna do with

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Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin as a head coach.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to make that transition away from Ben Roethlisberg.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and not have a losing season. I means

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Speaker 1: New Orleans had they I think they went seven to

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Speaker 1: ten a couple of years after Breeze retired. You look

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Speaker 1: at the Patriots, they cratered after Brady left, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to do that. I mean even the Colts

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Speaker 1: with Andrew Luck, Like, okay, you had a couple of

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Speaker 1: seasons where you know, the obviously the losing record in nineteen,

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Speaker 1: but then you have a couple of seasons where you're good,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, one season you PLoP

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Speaker 1: a four wins, you know, four wins down there. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to do what they've done, especially where that position

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Speaker 1: hasn't been settled.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, I know this is you know, you

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Speaker 4: talk about cliche or whatever, but ask every single coach, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: what's the biggest thing they say when.

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Speaker 3: You win a football game. It's hard to win a

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Speaker 3: game in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: And Mike Tomlin has figured that one out.

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Speaker 1: Also, ask every single coach and like Mike Tomlins one.

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Speaker 3: Of the best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely exactly. All right, So let's get to a

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Speaker 1: game preview here, and I want to start with the

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Speaker 1: Colts defense against the Pittsburgh offense because this this is

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Speaker 1: interesting that justin fields three to oh, we're not doing

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Speaker 1: the hole. Should the Bears have kept fields? Caleb Williams bit,

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Speaker 1: that's ridiculous, not it. We're three games out of the season, right,

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Speaker 1: Stop anyone who's doing that.

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Speaker 5: Stop.

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Speaker 1: But the Steelers are twenty eighth and average yards per play,

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Speaker 1: They're only averaging four point six yards per play. They've

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Speaker 1: only turned twenty five percent of their red zone possessions

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Speaker 1: into touchdowns. They've only scored three touchdowns on offense all season. However,

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is seventh on third down, so they're converting their

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Speaker 1: third downs and they've only turned the ball over once.

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Speaker 1: They've a plus four turnover differential. All right, so let's

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Speaker 1: start on third down. The Colts have struggled on third down. Bill,

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Speaker 1: They're at fifty percent allowing teams to convert on third down.

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Speaker 1: That's twenty eighth in the NFL. How important is that

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Speaker 1: going to be in this game? Getting off the field

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Speaker 1: on third down? And by the way, Bill, the Colts

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Speaker 1: defense is allowing that conversion rate despite having the ninth average,

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Speaker 1: ninth longest average yards to the sticks on third down.

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Speaker 7: Wow, Well, you know the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 6: You know that Pittsburgh steel is going to try to

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Speaker 6: run the ball. They want to run the ball with

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Speaker 6: their running backs with Harris and don't know if Jayden

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Speaker 6: is going to play. Yeah, it's banged up. Don't know

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Speaker 6: if he's gonna play. But either way, they're going to

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Speaker 6: try to run the ball. That's what they want to do.

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Speaker 6: And justin fields he can run the ball as well.

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Speaker 6: Good athlete back there, he can run the ball. So

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Speaker 6: they want to run the ball. They want to try

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Speaker 6: to be successful on first and second down and keep

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Speaker 6: it short on third down, third and short whatever. I

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Speaker 6: think it's going to be imperative for the Coats to

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Speaker 6: be good on first and second down, and definitely be

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Speaker 6: good on third down because we have to win the

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Speaker 6: time possession. And if they're continue to getting first downs

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Speaker 6: and moving the ball down the field and then they

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Speaker 6: happen to score in the red zone, that's not going

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Speaker 6: to be good for the Coats because the Coats aren't

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Speaker 6: gonna be able to have the ball. And we need

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Speaker 6: to have many as many plays as possible from an

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Speaker 6: offensive standpoint to give us an opportunity to possibly make

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Speaker 6: some explosive plays, give Jonathan Taylor the opportunity to make

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Speaker 6: the big explosive plays, Anthony Richardson to make the big

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Speaker 6: explosive plays on the field. So I think it's going

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Speaker 6: to be in proud of for the Coats to be

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Speaker 6: successful on first and second down, stopping the Pittsburgh steelerst

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Speaker 6: to make it third and long. I know the Colts

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Speaker 6: aren't great at third and long, but I think eventually

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Speaker 6: that number is going to have to turn around. With

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Speaker 6: the Coasts have become successful on third down.

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Speaker 4: I think a key for the Colts, And I think

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Speaker 4: on third down is fine where Pat Fryarmouth is yep,

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Speaker 4: because I think that is very important.

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Speaker 3: We saw it last week with the Bears.

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Speaker 4: Cole Comiti go after it ten receptions, and that's an

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Speaker 4: area where I kind of see a very similar offensive

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Speaker 4: game plan, especially on third down, is find out where

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Speaker 4: their tight ends. Pat fryar with one of the probably

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Speaker 4: more underrated tight ends. I think when you look at

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Speaker 4: the upper echelon, I'm not saying he's like top five,

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Speaker 4: but he's probably in that mix in top fifteen to

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Speaker 4: top ten right in there. Very very good tight end.

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Speaker 4: So he is a guy that I'm going to kind

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Speaker 4: of target as being able to when you get them

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Speaker 4: behind the count a little bit, finding where he is

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Speaker 4: on third downs.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers do some funky stuff in their run game.

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Speaker 1: They run a lot of pony personnel with either Naji

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Speaker 1: Harris or Jalen Warren in the backfield and also Corderoo Patterson. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a challenge for this Colts front because

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little bit different than what we've

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Speaker 1: seen over the last couple of weeks justin fields. Though

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Speaker 1: he's only averaging three point two yards per attempt, so

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Speaker 1: it's not like he's like last year was Chicago, I

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Speaker 1: think he was like nine yeah yards per attempt. Like,

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Speaker 1: he's not gashing teams, but he's got that in him. Yes, exactly,

659
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: like you heard what Trey Sermon said. He said, he's

660
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: probably runs like a four to three three like he's

661
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: got that in him if you are undisciplined, and yeah,

662
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely. For me, it's it's stopping the run.

663
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: You don't want to let Najie Harris get after you.

664
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Speaker 1: In this game, he's only averaging three point eight yards

665
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: per attempt, but they're gonna give him the ball. You

666
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: know he's gonna get the ball. You don't want to

667
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: get gashed by Cordero Patterson and then you definitely don't

668
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: want to get gashed by Justin fields. With fields, guys,

669
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: he's not putting the ball in harm's way. I think

670
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Speaker 1: that's probably the biggest change from what we saw in

671
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: Chicago to what we're seeing now. According to Pro Football Focus,

672
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: he does not have a single turnover worthy play this year, really,

673
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: not a nice one, not a single one. He's one

674
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: of three quarterbacks who does not have one of those.

675
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith is doing a great job with justin fields

676
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: where okay, maybe it's a lot of dink and dunk,

677
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: but you know what, we are not asking him to

678
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: do something that he is not good at. They're asking

679
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: him to do a lot of stuff that he is

680
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: good at, and it's working so far for the Steelers offense.

681
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Speaker 6: And that's a coach saying, Okay, I'm gonna do what

682
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 6: I have to do to make your play very successful

683
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 6: for this team. He knows what his weaknesses are, he

684
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 6: knows what his strengths are. He's playing to his strengths.

685
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 6: Dink and dunk, get the ball into the playmaker's hands.

686
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 6: And also, when you have an opportunity to run, run

687
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 6: the ball, you're a good athlete, you can do that.

688
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 6: And that's just a smart offensive coordinator knowing his personnel,

689
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 6: knowing what he has there, and they're playing to their team.

690
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 6: That's good complimentary football. Well, you know, you have one

691
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 6: of the better defenses in the National Football League, so

692
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 6: let's not put them in a bad situation where we

693
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 6: turn the ball over and give the ball to the

694
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 6: other team and we're out our defense because we lose

695
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 6: the time possession. So that is doing a good job,

696
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 6: and Justin Fields is doing a good job of just

697
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 6: you know what, taking what they give me. If I

698
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 6: have to dump it down, I'll dump it down. I'll

699
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 6: let those guys make some plays. So that's smart football.

700
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 6: And that's just like that's like I said, I'm talking

701
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 6: about Mike Tomlin. He's just doing the things he needs

702
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 6: to do to win football games. It's not anything fancy

703
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 6: or it might not look great, but at the end

704
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 6: of the day, they win football games.

705
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 4: What Arthur Smith is doing and this is kind of

706
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 4: going back and the kind of get on your time

707
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 4: travel and go back a handful of years, but it's

708
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 4: similar to what he did as the coordinator in Tennessee

709
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 4: with an.

710
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Speaker 3: Early Marcus Mariota.

711
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Speaker 4: It is Yet, we're gonna highlight what you do well,

712
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 4: and that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna make you

713
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 4: not put the ball in harm's weight and we're just

714
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 4: gonna run it through that. And I mean, ultimately through

715
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 4: three games right now, justin Fields looks like a completely

716
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 4: different quarterback than what we saw in Chico. And that

717
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 4: you got to put a lot of credit in Arthur

718
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 4: Smith because he has really tapped into hey, you know what,

719
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 4: instead of trying to make him do too much, trying

720
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 4: to force the ball, let's just kind of tone it

721
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 4: back and that's what's working.

722
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: Love that comparison twenty seventeen Marcus Mariota there in Tennessee.

723
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: He averaged seven point one yards per attempt. That was

724
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: his lowest average of his career. But they went nine

725
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: and six in a playoffs.

726
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: There you go.

727
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: So that's that's good coaching.

728
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 7: Right there, I mean, exactly good coaching.

729
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: The one thing you do want to be aware of, though,

730
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: justin fields, is while Pittsburgh only has five he's only

731
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: attempted five passes that have gone twenty or more yards

732
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: beyond the line of scrimmage. He's got a rocket.

733
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 7: Oh he could throw it.

734
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: And the last thing you want to do is get

735
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: lulled into dink and dunk, dink and dunk. He's throwing

736
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: sixty eight percent of his passes short of the sticks.

737
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: That's the highest rate in the NFL. But you don't

738
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: want to get lolled into that. Yeah, because if if

739
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: you get a big play action Max Protect and he

740
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: throws it deep to George Pickens or that you know,

741
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: Kelvinock like watch out, that still could be a part

742
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: of this offense. It's still early. You got to be

743
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: alerted for.

744
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 7: That, you know, and to Austin So you know, have

745
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 7: to be alert for that at all times.

746
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 4: And I'm glad you said because those two guys, though

747
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 4: they are explosive players, they can they can turn it

748
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 4: on really really quick and make a big time play.

749
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 4: So those are two guys I mentioned friar Mouth on

750
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 4: third down, But definitely keep those two guys in your

751
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 4: in your in your vision because they can be game

752
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 4: breakers as well.

753
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: Does feel like a game though, where rallying and tackling

754
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: is going to be really important. Yes, quick, shout out

755
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: to Nick Cross, who's done a great job with that.

756
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: All your leads the NFL and tackles. Yeah, he he

757
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: has been. You know, you don't want your safety to

758
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: lead the team in tackles necessarily, but like man when

759
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: when he gets an opportunity to make a tackle, he's

760
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: been making place e J. Speed, same thing, Zira Franklin.

761
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: Those guys, you want them rallying to the ball because

762
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: if they are going to throw it short of the sticks, hey,

763
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: you know, as many guys as you can get to

764
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: George Pickens, to Pat fryer Mouth, those guys to keep

765
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: him short of the sticks. Once they do catch it,

766
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: don't let him get the yak.

767
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: I'm glad you bring up Nick Cross.

768
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Speaker 4: I mean, it was probably for him a rough offseason,

769
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 4: rough camp because of all the noise. It was very

770
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 4: very loud about how they needed to bring in a

771
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 4: veteran and Nick Cross isn't. And he has quieted them

772
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 4: and he has played very, very good football. And it's

773
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 4: it's great to see because the NFL is a I mean,

774
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 4: it is a what did you do for me lately?

775
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 5: League?

776
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 4: You get a guy who got an opportunity early to

777
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 4: start and then it didn't work out, so he goes

778
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 4: to being mainly just a special teams guy. So him

779
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 4: getting that second opportunity, I'm really really happy.

780
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: For him, for still a really young player with some experience.

781
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: It's really nice to see him kind of as sending,

782
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: all right, Bill, let's flip it over to the Colts

783
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: offense versus the Steelers defense, and goodness, gracious, what's a

784
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: gracious pete? What had changed? I can say on the

785
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: wire something like that. There they are rolling right now.

786
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: They are allowing an NFL best eight point seven points

787
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: per game. They're fourth and yards per play four point

788
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: six yards per play. They're second in rushing yards per

789
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: play allowed at three point five. They're allowing only twenty

790
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: one point nine percent, twenty one point nine percent of

791
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: third downs to be converted. Only sixteen points seven percent

792
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: of opposing red zone possessions have ended in a touchdown,

793
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: and they're fifth in and they have five takeaways, which

794
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: is sixth bill. When you're facing a defense that right

795
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: now does not appear to have a single weakness, not

796
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: a single one, what do you do? What do you

797
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: try to lean into?

798
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 6: What you land to is you have to land to

799
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 6: your own strength, meaning what you do, as far as

800
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 6: from an office standpoint.

801
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 7: What you do well.

802
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: So that's the run game.

803
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 6: So that's running game. So I think the Coasts have

804
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 6: to be very good in the run game. Our first

805
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 6: and second down. You can't be third and long against

806
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 6: this team because they're gonna come after you. So I

807
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 6: think if the Coast can be third and two, third

808
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 6: and three, it opens up the.

809
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 7: Playbook for you. You can do a lot of different things.

810
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 6: You can pass the ball to the tight ends, you

811
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 6: can pass the ball to the backs, the receivers, you

812
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 6: can run the ball with the backs.

813
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 7: You can have ar run the ball. So you open

814
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 7: up your whole playbook.

815
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 6: And I think that's gonna be a key for the

816
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 6: Coats is make sure that hey, one, we're successful on

817
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 6: first and second down, and we have to get first

818
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 6: downs on third down if we're in those situations. So

819
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 6: that's gonna be important. And when you have an opportunity

820
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 6: to hit the big play, take it if it's there,

821
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 6: take it because you know you're gonna need it. You

822
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 6: know you're gonna need to score points. And also I

823
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 6: think it's very impresive for the Coats to win the

824
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 6: time possession. Win of time possession, We've talked about the

825
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 6: Steelers offense. They haven't gone downfield. We know they can

826
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 6: go downfield with big plays. But I think if maybe

827
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 6: you kind of pressure justin fields and there doing something

828
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 6: that he hasn't done this year, is not very comfortable

829
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 6: with doing, trying to make the big play, trying to

830
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 6: play catch up all the time, then that may be

831
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 6: you will get him to make some mistakes, maybe throw

832
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 6: some interceptions, some careless passes, and then you can also

833
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 6: go down feel and score some points. And I think

834
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 6: you need to be very very very very good in

835
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 6: the red zone. Be good in the red zone. Once

836
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 6: you get in there, we got to score. You gotta

837
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 6: take advantge of this opportunity when you get in the

838
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 6: red zone.

839
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 4: I know you can't really draw the same comparison because

840
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 4: you know, both teams are different. But in the Week

841
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 4: fifteen game last year, you put up thirty points on

842
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: the Steelers. So I pulled I was kind of cheating,

843
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 4: you know, But so I'm not saying that. You can say, oh, well,

844
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 4: you know you've done it. You can put that, but ultimately,

845
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 4: there is a little bit of recent tape you've put

846
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: on film that you have been able to in some

847
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 4: ways attack now there, everything's different, They've got some different

848
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 4: pieces out there, and it's going to be a tall

849
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 4: task because to this point, you mentioned the eight eight

850
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 4: points a game. Nobody has scored double digitch it's on

851
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 4: this team through three weeks, like not even a single

852
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 4: team has put up ten points. That is a wild

853
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 4: stat Even if it's two games, you do that.

854
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 3: They've done that through three weeks.

855
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: It's very impressive what this defense has done. But I

856
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 4: do think you can kind of draw back to say,

857
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 4: you know, what, what we did last year, we could

858
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: take a little bit of that, and you know, listening

859
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: to Rick Ventury this week on Inside Football, he knows

860
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 4: the game defensively a lot better.

861
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: Than I.

862
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 4: He says to attack Joey Porter Junior. So Hey, Shane Steikn,

863
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 4: Hey Jim Bob, I'm gonna just take one out of

864
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 4: Rick's book and say attack Joey Porter junior.

865
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 3: And then maybe that's what you're gonna do.

866
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: I do that all the time. By the way. I

867
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: here's something on Inside Football, the Rick Ventury and I

868
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: like say it on the radio, and I get it

869
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: out I get it out there before Rick goes on

870
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: because I go on before him. Look at how smart

871
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: I am. Usually I credit it. I always credit that

872
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: game though. So the Colts against the Steelers last year,

873
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: that was the Trace Sermon Tyler Goodson game. Yes, where

874
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: Sermon averaged five point two yards per carry, Goodson average

875
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: six point three yards per carry. Those guys combined to

876
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: carry the ball twenty eight times yea. And they were

877
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: efficient and they were explosive through the Eric Gardner Minshew

878
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: in that game through three touchdowns. Now, Mika Fitzpatrick did

879
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,959
Speaker 1: leave that game at an injury in the second quarter,

880
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: notable there. But you had TJ. Watt out there, you

881
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: would Cam Hayward out there, the one guy who is

882
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: not going to be out there for the Steelers this

883
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: week is Alex Heismith. Yes, the edge rusher opposite TJ

884
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: Watt in this defense, he's really good. A lot of

885
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: sacks for him not having him out there, that does

886
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 1: seem like it just a little thing to keep in mind.

887
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: Now the rest of that Steelers line, Keano Benton's awesome

888
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: like that. They've got some other dudes there. Larry Ogunjob

889
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: beyond the interior is having a fantastic season, but on

890
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: the edges you have maybe a bit of a weakness.

891
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: Oh and then, by the way, one of the best

892
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: defensive players in the NFL.

893
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 4: I don't wanna, I don't wanna. I'm trying to jinx him.

894
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to do right now. Okay, this

895
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 4: is my I'm trying to jink sh TJ. But he's

896
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 4: a sack away from one hundred on his career. He's

897
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 4: at ninety nine and a half heading into this and

898
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 4: that just kind of shows you. I mean, you saw

899
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 4: it so many years in Houston with JJ.

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Speaker 1: There is a to quote John Schiffer in the White

901
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: Sox announcer history can wait.

902
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 4: There you go, Yeah, that's nice. How are them white

903
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 4: socks feeling in your eyes.

904
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 3: There, JJ.

905
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: History can wait.

906
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: But anyway, I mean, you saw how good JJ Watt

907
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 4: was for so long in Houston. But there is an

908
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 4: argument that TJ is right on part, if not maybe

909
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 4: better than what JJ Watt has done in his career.

910
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 4: So TJ is a man there. There's no good way

911
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: to shut him down. But you've got to just limit

912
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 4: him as much as you can.

913
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 7: The thing you need to do on offense.

914
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 6: I remember when I was with the Colts and we

915
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 6: playing the Buffalo Bills.

916
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 7: Every play we knew where Bruce Smith was.

917
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, every single play you point out he's right here,

918
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 6: he's at the end.

919
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 7: Okay, no, he's over he's over the guard.

920
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 6: No, I mean we literally a point to him. So

921
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 6: now you got to do the same thing with TJ.

922
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 6: You have to know where he's at. You know, most

923
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 6: of the part, you're not gonna know where he's at.

924
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 6: He's going to be over there by Braden Smith, you

925
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 6: know for.

926
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 7: The most part.

927
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 6: But he can't move around, and you have to make

928
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 6: sure you have a good game plan for him against

929
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 6: t J Watt because he is a game wrecker. By far,

930
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 6: he is a game wrecker. So I'm sure the coach

931
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 6: will have a game plan for him and what to do, uh,

932
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 6: depending on where he's at in the football field and

933
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 6: knowing that he's going to try to wreck the game,

934
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 6: and of course on down distance things are gonna be different.

935
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 6: But having to know where the man's at because he

936
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 6: is one heck of a player and real quick.

937
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: Herbig is gonna play probably in high smith spot.

938
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 5: Ye.

939
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 4: Last week he came in and had two sacks. Pretty solid, Yeah,

940
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 4: pretty good guy.

941
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: The football hipster thing that I'm looking for is on

942
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: the interior. Cam Hayward's awsome. Oh yeah, so good, solid, solid,

943
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: So he he is pro football focused, highest graded defensive

944
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: lineman against the runs so far this year. You got him,

945
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: you got LARRYO Joey, you got Keanu Benton. Those guys

946
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: on the interior of that line against Quentin Nelson, Ryan

947
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: Kelly will Fries, who're playing as good as any interior

948
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: trio in the NFL right now, That to me is

949
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: where this game might get decided is on the interior.

950
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: Because the Colts are on a lot of inside zone

951
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: and it doesn't always have to go through the interior.

952
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: But if the Colts are winning in at Garden Center

953
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: and you're not letting Cam Hayward wreck your run game.

954
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: That to me, there, that's how you can start opening

955
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: things up for Jonathan Taylor for maybe a little bit

956
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: of trace sermon in there. That's where it's gonna happen.

957
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: And by like Will Fryes, what a season he's having.

958
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: Like that guy. I know, I've talked about it a

959
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: couple of times, but like he he went from being

960
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: last year. He's good. He's not a weak link to

961
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: like Will Fryes. He keeps playing like this, He's making

962
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl.

963
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 4: No, he has really taken a ton of strides over

964
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 4: the last couple of year years. And I mean that

965
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 4: offensive line as a whole. I don't want to speak

966
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 4: too soon, but they are comparable to the way they

967
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 4: were playing a handful of years ago when it was.

968
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: Just you know, run the damn ball.

969
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 4: They're getting close to being at that level of offensive

970
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 4: line play. And it's so good because you've seen the

971
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 4: ups and downs with that group. And that's the thing

972
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 4: for me that's so positive is you really haven't changed

973
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 4: too much of it. For the most part. Your core

974
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 4: of Brayden, Q and Ryan they've been there and they

975
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 4: have gone through the highs and the lows. So watching

976
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 4: them come out on top has been a lot of fun.

977
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 4: But you mentioned Will Fryes definitely doesn't get the credit

978
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 4: he deserves because he has been so solid on that

979
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 4: offensive line.

980
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: For Anthony Richardson Bill In this game, smart decision making

981
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: is going to kind of be paramount. I think because

982
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: micka Fitzpatrick back there, he is liable to jump something well,

983
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: and that is not a guy who you want to

984
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: have around the ball when it's sailing or it might

985
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: not be on target. That is the last guy you

986
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: want to run the ball in those situations.

987
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, good decisions are going to be very important in

988
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 7: this game.

989
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 6: It's important in every game, but I think in this game,

990
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 6: with the Pittsburgh Steels defense, how they play defense, the

991
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 6: personnel they have, you have to make good decisions out there.

992
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 7: You have to get the.

993
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 6: Ball in the right spots, put the ball away from

994
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 6: the defender that's covering a receiver, get the ball on

995
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 6: time to the receivers, and just make good decisions. Sometimes

996
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 6: throwing the ball into the stands is not a bad decision.

997
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 6: So you just make good decisions out there, and you

998
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 6: know what you want to move the ball down the field. Yes,

999
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 6: we want to control the clock, we want to have

1000
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 6: long sustained drives, but sometimes you know what, throw the

1001
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 6: ball in the stands.

1002
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 7: Rigoberto is a pretty good pun.

1003
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 6: So you know what, pin the Steelers back in their

1004
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 6: own end. Let our defense work and then maybe, you know,

1005
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 6: you do get some good field position, because.

1006
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 7: Maybe they don't.

1007
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 6: You know, maybe you get a good punt return or

1008
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 6: for you know, for us, and then after that you

1009
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 6: got good field position and you march down.

1010
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 1: I didn't get to use this on Tuesday's pod because

1011
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: we didn't have time for it, but I had some

1012
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: numbers on Rego Rego Man. I know it's punter talk,

1013
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: which is why we're saving it for the end of

1014
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: the podcast. Like we round of a plus for Rigoberto Sanchez.

1015
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: He's second in the NFL in a net punting average

1016
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: at forty eight point five yards per punt. Ten of

1017
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: his eleven punts have landed inside the twenty yard line,

1018
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: him downed or tackled inside the twenty yard line. Only

1019
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: three of his punts have been returned, and returns have

1020
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: gained four yards four on them.

1021
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 2: Four.

1022
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: I mean, we have known kind of the hidden gym.

1023
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 4: We have in our punter for a long time, but

1024
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 4: I've noticed a little difference in him. I think Brian

1025
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 4: Mason has a ton of energy on the sideline.

1026
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: It's a lot of fun to watch.

1027
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: And that's kind of what I've been paying attention to

1028
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 4: because every time Rego has been punting, I watch when

1029
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 4: he comes off and him and Brian Mason have this

1030
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 4: big you know, they both jump up in the air

1031
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: and they have this high five. And that's what it's

1032
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 4: been like that punting game right now, it.

1033
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 3: Is you need to use it. It's a great point.

1034
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 4: But I didn't even think about that until right now.

1035
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 4: Making using Rego might be one of your hidden specialties

1036
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 4: this weekend kind of a key to winning because he

1037
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 4: is such a threat right.

1038
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: Now when points are hard to come by.

1039
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 4: Yes, h and making an offense that's led by justin

1040
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: field to we're not at all throwing under the bus

1041
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 4: at all. But make him drive the length of the field.

1042
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 4: That was the key in last Sunday's victory is make

1043
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams drive down the field. Do not give them

1044
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 4: anything easy, and that's a good recipe for success again.

1045
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 6: This make them have a ten to twelve play drive

1046
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 6: get down the field and see if they can score.

1047
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 6: More than likely there's going to be a mistake made

1048
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 6: somewhere in that drive. So that's when you hopefully you

1049
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 6: can capitalize on that mistake from a defensive standpoint and

1050
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 6: hopefully get the ball back or put them in a

1051
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 6: third and long situation where they can't get a first

1052
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 6: down and then you do get the ball back.

1053
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: If Pittsburgh is not going to be explosive on offense,

1054
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: then it's much it's impairedive that they start drives at

1055
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: the fifteen yard line instead of the thirty five yard Absolutely,

1056
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: because I mean that's a difference of if you're averaging

1057
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: four yards per play, that's a five play difference.

1058
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, if.

1059
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 1: You're averaging five yards of play, that's a four play difference.

1060
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: Whatever it might be. That's a lot of place. That

1061
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: is a series of downs that you have to now

1062
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 1: go through and execute on to move the ball downfield.

1063
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: Love it, love it in the pot on.

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00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 3: Some regunsgo man, he has been great. He deserves all

1065
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: the flowers. He's been great.

1066
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: Another guy who can be in line for a little

1067
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: little Pro Bowl yes September. I don't know what good

1068
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: trend right now. All right, well, we are on our

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00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: way out of this episode of the Official Colts Podcast

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Speaker 1: here on the Colts Audio Network and on YouTube. Tune

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