1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Bobby Bones. You know, sometimes we want to 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: feature episodes that maybe if you're a new listener, if 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: you're a new subscriber, you didn't hear back in the day. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: We have done hundreds and hundreds of these, and sometimes 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: it's hard to scroll back and find really good ones. 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: So that's what we're gonna do. Back I mean a 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: house ago, at least so years ago, Tricia your would 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: stop by the house and it was a kind I 9 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: will walk through her life and career. You know, she 10 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: stopped by and talked about how she got to start 11 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: singing in you know, demo rooms in the eighties. She'd 12 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: go into a room and there's a microphone. It wasn't 13 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: a big fancy studio, but she would sing demos and 14 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: that's how she got her deal. You know, she worked 15 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: at a record label as a secretary, so all of this, 16 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: and then obviously background vocals on more than a hundred 17 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Garth Brooks songs and she opened for them, and it's 18 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: a really great story. And at the time, she was 19 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: promoting her Frank Sinatra tribute album called Let's Be Frank, 20 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: and we talked about that. So I hope you haven't 21 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: heard this yet and you hear it, and you learned 22 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: about Tricia your Wood and what's cool is a tie 23 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: into next week's episode. So next week we'll talk to 24 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: Leslie Simon and she is like the general manager of 25 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: Garth and Tricia's record label now, and she tells the 26 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,639 Speaker 1: story about their connection and how she ended up working 27 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: with and for them and really why they're such great people, 28 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: Garth and Tricia. So I think you're gonna love next 29 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: week's episode as well. But here is an old episode, 30 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: but since it's all about her career, it's evergreen. Here 31 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: is Tricia year Wood. All right, welcome to episode one 32 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: with Trisia Yearwood. What a treat, Thank you very much. 33 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: You brought me some Jack Daniels Sinatra select Now do 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: you have that the Frank Sinatra record? And so we'll 35 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: talk about that in a second. But it's orange. It's 36 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: it's orange on the packaging because that was Sinatra's favorite color. 37 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: And and you're pretty cool. I guess if Jack Daniels 38 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: gives an entire collection of alcohol for you, I mean, 39 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty cool. Anyway, I was gonna stretch 40 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: scratch out his name of mine, but I decided to 41 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: just leave it for you that way. I think you're 42 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: pretty cool if tiar Wood does a record of all 43 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: your songs, more so than if Jack Daniels doesn't need 44 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: to be I'm waiting to do let's be Bobby, but 45 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm probably don't want to do that one. That's like 46 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: a FCC fine, that could be my next thing. That's 47 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: the whole thing we were. So you hand up the 48 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: alcohol and I said, hey, why don't I just drink this? 49 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: Um the first time I ever drinking, and I'll just 50 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: get hammered during the podcast, be so embarrassed to be 51 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: that person for you. I don't want to be that person, 52 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: I think, and a lot of my friends want to 53 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: be that person. They want me to get drunk with 54 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: them because then they have like my my alcohol flower, 55 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: right exactly. Yeah, I mean, I mean I love you, 56 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: but I don't want your alcohol flower. It's not my thing. 57 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: I've never even heard it called that. I haven't either. 58 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: Creepy alcohol totally creepy. I was out with a girl, 59 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: um speaking of alcohol flower. Well, this is a whole 60 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: story about me drinking, because when I drink, people act 61 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: weird around me. I don't drink, but people are drinking. I'll, oh, 62 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: I shouldn't rink around you, So I don't tell anybody 63 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: that that I don't drink. So I I think drink. 64 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: So I asked the bartender for something in Virginy and 65 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, put a little whit. So I was with 66 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: a girl and we went out and Ray and they 67 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: who um, we were having dinner with them, and I 68 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: go to the bathroom and Ray tells the girl that 69 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: I took out, Oh, you know, he doesn't drink, right, 70 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: And then she starts she said, I didn't know he 71 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: told her that, And she's been actively totally weird around me, 72 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: And that's what it is. It was something else. Yeah, 73 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: I was like, she must know about my rash. You 74 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: must have which is another reason this kind of be 75 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: what don't you deserve a metal because it's really hard 76 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: I find to be the sober person around a bunch 77 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: of drunk people because no one who's really drunk understands 78 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: how drunk they are, right, so you're if you're the 79 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: sober person, if you're drunk with them, then you don't 80 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: have to worry about not having patience with anybody because 81 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: you're drunk too. But if you're sober and everyone else 82 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: is drunk. But I don't know the difference, right, Well, 83 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: you just aren't hanging around the right drunks. Maybe so, 84 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know the difference in me like 85 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: I know the difference in them. I've never been drunk 86 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: with the drunks. I only know being with the stupid people, 87 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: like I know, a Friday night, if I go out 88 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: with a bunch of stupid people, that's just par for 89 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: that course. That's what it's going to be. So I 90 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: appreciate that someone in this house will drink it. Well 91 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: that's what I thought. You could serve it. You could 92 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: serve it to one of your guests, yeah, or someone 93 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: to steal it. That's what happens. That might happen. I'll 94 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: go into my bedroom and I'll come back and Eddie 95 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: stolen or somebody from the show selling all the alcohol. 96 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: I get really nice. Alcost it to me sometimes because 97 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: you keep alcohol in your bedroom. I mean, is this 98 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: something going to my bedroom, like to change clothes or something. 99 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: I come out all right, Okay, I feel better now, 100 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: I feel better now. I was concerned. Yeah, what have 101 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: you been up to all day? I've been doing I've 102 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: been talking about this record. And uh yeah, just kind 103 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: of doing my thing. We're getting ready to go to St. 104 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: Louis to do a tailgate, so I've been talking about 105 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: that and um, what is the interview day for you? 106 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: Like a press day? What does that consist of? You 107 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 1: wake up? What time today? I woke up at thirty. 108 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: So some days it depends on what you're doing. You know, 109 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: if you're doing one of those big early morning shows 110 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: where you're hate the crack, hate the early morning shows. See, 111 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: I got into the music business to not have to 112 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: get up early, but then you end up getting up 113 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: early for stuff. You get up early three o'clock. Yeah, 114 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: that's not okay. That's not okay to me. I would 115 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: have to quit my job. What I used to think 116 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: that because I'm not a morning person. I just I'm not. 117 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: It takes me three hours to get to where I'm okay. 118 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: But you it's just a balance like do I love 119 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: what I do? Yeah? But do I hate waking up 120 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: to do it? Yeah? And then as it starts, like 121 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: now we've kind of kind of built something cool, So 122 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, if my worst problem is not 123 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: getting sleep, I got that's true. And once you're up, 124 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,119 Speaker 1: it's Okay, it's the getting up for me. But getting 125 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: up in the dark, I mean, that's you. Really, you 126 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: really are a night person because you get up in 127 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: the middle of a night. That's crazy. I'm a night 128 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: person anyway, I'm too, but I mean, and I am 129 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: that person. If I have to get up really early, 130 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm not the person that goes to bed early. I 131 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: can't do it. I'm just a night person. So I'm 132 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: just not going to get sleep if I got to 133 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: get up early. If you're playing a show and you 134 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: finish at eleven thirty, what time? What time is into 135 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: the set usually the whole thing, usually eleven thirty and 136 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: midnight something like that. What time do you finally get down? 137 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: Probably two wish. Yeah, that's my perfect schedule. If I 138 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: could go to bed wake up at one pm, like 139 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: that would be so good, Like that's my my natural 140 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: I was reading a story about that where a lot 141 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: of jobs, not a lot of jobs, but a lot 142 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 1: of science is saying jobs have like programming people wrong, 143 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: that everybody's body isn't built for nine to five, that 144 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people's bodies are built for noon to 145 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: eight p m. And at the productivity scale whenever you 146 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: find what people do best, they actually work better at 147 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: the times of their bodies. That makes so much, It 148 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: makes so much sense, so much sense. I mean, I 149 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: was a I had a nine to five job when 150 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: I first moved to town. I was a receptionist at 151 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: the record label, and I had to be at work 152 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: at nine. And I worked at a label where there 153 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: was a guy at the desk, so if I got 154 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: there at nine oh one, he'd had to sit there 155 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: an extra hour, so he was really ticked at me 156 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: if I was ever late. So I was always on 157 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: time because I didn't want to be mad at me. 158 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: And you couldn't leave your desk to even use the 159 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: restroom without somebody sitting in your chair because your dance 160 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: on the phones, you're in them. You're the gateway, you know, 161 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: the whole place. And it was really depressing for me. 162 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: Not because first of all, I'm watching people coming every 163 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: day and do what I wanted to be doing, so 164 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: that was hard, but secondly, just that structure of this 165 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: is when you clock in, this is when you clock out. 166 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: I think people, some people are made for it, and 167 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: I think some people aren't. And I don't think I 168 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: am I like people because it must be so crazy. 169 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: You just normal ever know what your schedule is going 170 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: to be. I'm like, it's kind of different every day, 171 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: but I kind of love that for me. So it's 172 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: consistently different, Like there's a consistency to to it always 173 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: being different exactly exactly, And I like that. I think 174 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: I thrive on that. I don't think I would do well. 175 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: I know I don't do well. Did not do well 176 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: in the nine to five. Marcus Hummond is a friend, 177 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: UH and songwriter in town, and he said that he 178 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: would go in. You mentioned your your job, Mary Tyler Moore, 179 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: and he would see you working behind the desk early on. Yes, 180 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: And actually Marcus gave me work. Um he I did 181 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: some demos for him, um back in the day. Back 182 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: in during that time period, I got to know I 183 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: knew a couple of songwriters, and I started doing demos 184 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: after work. Um. So I'd work nine to six and 185 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: then I would do demos until you know, nine o'clock, 186 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: and then I would go home and go to bed 187 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: and get back up the next day, and and then 188 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: for and then for a while, I got a job 189 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: playing at a bowling alley in Hendersonville, north of town, 190 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: so I would go leave my job and I would 191 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: play from seven to two, and then I would get 192 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: up and go to work the next day. So you're 193 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: like a full normal day five pm. Then you go 194 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: to the bowling allien play for five hours? Yeah? What 195 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: does that mean? What are you doing a bowling? When 196 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: you play? Do you have like a you play sets? 197 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: So as you play at three like three sets a band. 198 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: I was in a band, so I did all the 199 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: girls songs, you know, and you did that for five hours? Yeah? 200 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: For yeah? And was it enough? Were you doing it 201 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: to like pay rent? Are you doing it to get 202 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: in the music scene a bit? I just wanted to sing, Yeah, 203 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean, and I I honestly made I think I'd 204 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: make about two hundred bucks in a weekend, which was 205 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: what I made in a paycheck, you know. So it 206 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: was and it was I was having more fun doing that, 207 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: So eventually quit the job to do that. But also 208 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: the demo work was I couldn't get full time demo 209 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: work having a full time job, so I could only 210 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: sing after work. So it was kind of that moment 211 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: of like, I'm not really making enough money to to 212 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: quit the job, but if I don't quit the job, 213 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to do the other thing. 214 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: And that was a little transition. But then I then 215 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: I did demo work, and it was great for me 216 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: because I learned. I learned so many things I didn't 217 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: even know was learning. You know. I learned what a 218 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: good song was for me. I learned what a bad 219 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: song was for me. I learned how to make a 220 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: song on my own because I'm kind of an imitator 221 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: and I had sung with the radio my whole life. 222 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: So then you're hearing songs you've never heard before, and 223 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: you have to you have to make him yours. And 224 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: it was it was a great training ground for me 225 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: in a way that I didn't even realize when you're 226 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: a demo singer. And for example, UM, if you're listening 227 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: to this, Let's say you and I write a song 228 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: and we're like, this really a good song. We'll get 229 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: someone to sing the demo so it gets pitched to artists. Um, 230 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: are you hearing like the work tape there recording like 231 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: ascett player and then learning it real quick? Are you 232 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: hearing that? And and looking at the lyrics she and 233 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: then walking in and singing it like pretty fresh? Yeah, 234 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm hearing I'm hearing it on like a jam box 235 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: back in the day, um with a lyric sheet maybe 236 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: usually usually a lyric sheet. And and this was the eighties, 237 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: you know. So I would have a ten o'clock at 238 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: two o'clock, at six o'clock. So usually there be three 239 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: or four songs per sessions. So I would listen to 240 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: the cassette of the three songs I had to sing 241 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: at ten o'clock on the way to the session, because 242 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: i'd usually go by and pick up a copy the 243 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: day before usually, and I learned them on the way, 244 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: and I was I had a really good short term memory. 245 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: So and I had this system of because you know, 246 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: in Nashville it's the number system. And I was like, 247 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: do you know the number system. I'm like, yeah, of 248 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: course I didn't, but I said I did because I 249 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: wanted the work. And my system was to listen and 250 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: kind of just make these little hieroglyphic lines that no 251 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: one can understand but me about this one, this song. 252 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: There's a little lick here, that melody goes up upon 253 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: an arrow, whatever I need to do to kind of 254 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: learn it. And then I would sing those songs and 255 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: then I would um usually do a harmony, and then 256 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: I would get in the car and learned the next 257 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: three or four songs on the way of the two 258 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: o'clock because you keep your cramming for a test and 259 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: to each one, and then the next day you do 260 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: it all over again. So sometimes I wouldn't I couldn't 261 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: tell you what I had sung that morning. But if 262 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: I eventually heard that on the radio, I'd find myself 263 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: singing along with a song and be like, Oh, I 264 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: did the Democrat, So it's subconscious, Yeah, it's in here, 265 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: but you're just sitting Yeah. So did you ever sing 266 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: demos of a song that turned out to be a 267 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: pretty big one? Um? I did had a I did 268 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: sing a demo for a lor Morgan song called I 269 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: Guess You had to Be There? Sang the demo for that, 270 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: Um I sang, I'm trying to think there was something 271 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: else that I did that became a big song. But oh, 272 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: I did a demo for one of my very first 273 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: demos ever was a song that became a hip for 274 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: Sammy Kershaw called Dun't Go Near the Water, complete switch up, 275 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: totally Dun't Go Near the Water Pride to demo singing 276 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: when it when it does kind of make it because 277 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I was on the first level of this. 278 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: It kind of is. And especially before you have a 279 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: record deal on your own and you're you're not hearing 280 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: yourself on the radio, then you just kind of feel like, Okay, 281 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm in I am in this business somehow because I'm 282 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm I'm contributing. And then the first 283 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: time I heard myself on the radio was as a 284 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: harmony singer. I um Kathy Mattea asked me to sing 285 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: on a record of hers called Time passes By, and 286 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: I could hear my high harmony and for me to 287 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: hear myself singing on the radio, that was the first time, 288 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: and it was like, okay, So every step was like 289 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: a little step closer and closer to where I wanted 290 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: to be. We just did a whole show about background 291 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: singer and background singers that you may not know we're 292 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: singing background and some of the ones that we talked 293 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 1: about where recently We're Stapleton singing with Luke Brian and 294 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: drink a Beer. We went back to your so Vain 295 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: from um Carly um Carli Simon with Mick Jagger who 296 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: just happened to be in the studio and was like, 297 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: I'll sing and you know he's not credited or when 298 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: the Beatles did, uh, but we did all this whole 299 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: this whole show about background singers and you may not 300 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: know who the famous background singer was kind of crossing 301 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: on the wallflowers things like that. But like you mentioned, 302 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, you saying harmon you sing background records. That 303 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: was a step up from demo singing when they would 304 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: hire to come and sing the backgrounds of the harmonies. Yeah, 305 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: and I because you were doing something that was for 306 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: a record label that was potentially going to get played 307 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: on the radio. And I mean I saying, you know, 308 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: I think Garth Garth says, I don't know how many 309 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: songs he's got, but I mean I'm singing on like 310 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: a hundred songs of his and sometimes we know it's 311 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: sometimes you don't know it's me, but um. And he 312 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: did the same for me. He's singing on some of 313 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: my records that you wouldn't know he's singing on. Um. 314 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: And then Leroy Mornella sang for as I saying with 315 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: Vince Gill, I sang um. I just I mean pretty 316 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: much because I loved singing harmony and I was good 317 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: at it, and I was inexpensive, you know. So as 318 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: a demo singer, you're like, I come in, I know 319 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: the song, I can sing on pitch, and I can 320 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: do my own harmonies, and you know, twenty bucks, maybe 321 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: forty if there's harmony, if there's more than one harmony, 322 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: and you're out the door. You know. So it was 323 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: a but you add those up in a day, and 324 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: it was a pretty good living. So you know, it 325 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: was it was I made better money doing demos than 326 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: I did as a receptionist. And then I got a 327 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: record deal, and then I was broke, you know, because 328 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: then you stopped doing all of that and then you 329 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: you're then you're in debt. So what's funny is, and 330 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: this happens again to a lot of my friends and 331 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: people I know, is that you as your profile goes up, 332 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: you get poorer totally, and it's a it's a weird 333 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: juxapossession of here you go. Everybody's like, well, I check 334 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: this out, but you have no time to do anything 335 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: except kind of start over, and you're not making any money. 336 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: You know, they don't give you an American idol. They 337 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: don't give you a bunch of money as noon you's 338 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: on a record deal, you know, they don't. And if they, 339 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: whatever they give you is to make your record, which 340 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: is by the way alone because it's got to pay 341 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: it back, and then you pay it all back and 342 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: then you still don't own your record, you know. So 343 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: it's kind of a weird, it's totally weird situation. Um. 344 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: But yeah, and then when you do. I remember that 345 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: the first money that I actually made, which I never 346 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: saw the check, but the first money that came in 347 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: was the second album, Hearts and Armor, when it went platinum. 348 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: I remember that there was there was gonna be some 349 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: actual money coming in, and um, it went right back 350 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: into reinvesting in what we were doing next because we 351 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: were going on tour and we were you know, you're 352 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: paying a band, you gotta you gotta bust, you gotta 353 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: pay for and it's it's a lot, you know, So 354 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: we never really saw it. It's so much. I was looking, 355 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, because I have a comedy band and we 356 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: play some do you know, we'll do a few thousand people, 357 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: and I it's just pretty good little shows and I 358 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: do stand up and we do some comedy songs in 359 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: the full band plays, but just to pay the band 360 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: and travel every show, it's thousands of thousands of dollars. 361 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: I was looking at my business manager, and you know, 362 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: because I'm paying my drummer. You gotta pay your basis, 363 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: you gotta pay your tour manager, your pay And by 364 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: the time you look at the thing, it's thousands of 365 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: dollars for every show. And if you're new and some 366 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: of life, you know, people have been opening acts and 367 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: you're getting you know, five to seven for opening spot 368 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: on one of these tours, right, you're paying that to 369 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: just get there. Oh yeah, you're you're not making any money. 370 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: And I think it's harder, even harder now because artists, 371 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: you know, they pretty much don't do a deal anymore. 372 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: That's not a three sixty deal, right, so you don't 373 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: get So now you're you're used to be that your 374 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, your money is you're paying everybody you have, 375 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: you have all the responsibility, you pay all the expenses. 376 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: You're the last person paid. And now a percentage of 377 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: everything you make is going to your record label, including 378 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: your live show, including your merchandise, through every single thing. 379 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: So it sounds like, oh, for me. But I think 380 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: people just assume, oh, well, they're just all rolling in 381 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: the dough, and it's really, it's really for ninety five 382 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: of artists, it's a really hard job that has you 383 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: in debt. I mean it's it's not it's not you 384 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: have to you have to do it because you love it, 385 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: you know. It's the I would say it's the one 386 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: percent of the one percent who make money, because it's 387 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: the one percent to get to this town and be 388 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: able to just be so good and good meaning you've 389 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: done the work to also be good, to be so 390 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: good that you get a shot and you get signed 391 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: and that's just a shot. And then to be the 392 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: one percent who gets signed and actually can make money 393 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: and make a longer of it. It's the one it's 394 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: the point one percent of people who can actually, you know, 395 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: make money. It's it's way more difficult than I think 396 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: some people think it is. Yeah, And I think I 397 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: think especially now with there's so many ways if you 398 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: don't have any kind of connection into the music industry, 399 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: there's so many ways not to get yourself out there 400 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: with social media and YouTube and all that that everybody 401 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: does think oh, I'll just do this and I'll be 402 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: famous or whatever. And even if you become a sensation 403 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: on YouTube, it doesn't guarantee, you know, the the goal 404 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: is longevity, and that's not easy to do these online musicians. 405 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: I was reading about a rapper, young Dolf. I don't 406 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: know who he was either. Maybe you do, maybe don't 407 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: you see the look in my eyes? I'm like, know 408 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: he was. He was eating at a cracker barrel. It's 409 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: old Dolf's kid. Yeah, of course, and the Dolf senior, 410 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: the whole generation of Dolfs had the golf video. I 411 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: think he was eating in a cracker barrel. And he 412 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: had five hundred thousand dollars of jewelry in his car. 413 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: There was they bust out of the window. It was 414 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: all in his car. They stole it all out of there. 415 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: And I'm like, how did this dude make five hundred 416 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: thousand dollars? He's an online wrapper, he's a rapper who 417 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: made it online. I don't know where he's getting that money. 418 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: But some of these YouTubers can make a quick pop, 419 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: but you gotta sustain that. But half million dollars in 420 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: a car are you kidding me? And first of all, 421 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: where's your business? Where someone telling you to not nobody 422 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: was half a million does with the jelry? Anybody. Nobody 423 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: was telling him he was half a million does with 424 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: the jewelry? Besides maybe, like Liz Taylor, I don't know 425 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: jewel and in a car. Yeah, so someone busted out 426 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: the window. It was a camouflager get wagon busted at 427 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: the crack, and I'm like, get the cracker barrel. He's 428 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: also gonna get the cracker barrel. There's there's some irish. 429 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: So many things wrong with his story. I can't even 430 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: when did like the for you? When did they start 431 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: to be hey, got to get this music online? What part? 432 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: What stage? Um? Like a couple of weeks ago, Tricia, 433 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: I've sort of in the last man standing. Um, sorry, 434 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: I h It's it's hard because I come from a 435 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: different kind of a different era, you know, of the 436 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: way music was made and sold, and I I am 437 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: also wanting to be current, so I want to do 438 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: things the way things are being done. I know people 439 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: consume music in such a different way. Um. And this 440 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: was really the album, This Let's be Frank album was 441 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: the one that I said, Okay, let's just put it 442 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,239 Speaker 1: everywhere because we just what we want is for as 443 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: many people to discover it as possible. So let's put 444 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: it in every single possible form we can, which is 445 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: why if you buy the album or you buy the vinyl, 446 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: there's a digital download inside. We're on all this streaming. Um, 447 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: we just want we just want to get it out there. 448 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: And you know, I it's tough for me because I 449 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: as a as a listener and consumer of music, I 450 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: consume that same way. So if I if I want 451 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: to hear a song and I and I go to 452 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: YouTube and watch the video, then I might be less 453 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: likely to buy the record. So what's going to motivate 454 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: me to buy it if I can just hear it 455 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: in all these places for free. But at the same time, 456 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: you have to get it out there for people to hear. So, UM, 457 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: we just said, let's go for it. Why do I 458 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: play for the last Time? This is from the Let's 459 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: Be Frank album. I have it here, I have it 460 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: on the final time. I'm in love for the last time. 461 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: My love was luck with Normality. This is the next 462 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: to last track on the record. I just look at 463 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: the track lists. I have a final you gave me here. 464 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: Do you listen to things on finals I do. You know, 465 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: what's really cool is that it makes me listen to 466 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: albums again all the way through, which is because it's 467 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: hard to skip. I agree with that. So, and there's 468 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: reasons for the the way records are made in a 469 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: certain order. It was the first time in a long 470 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: time that I had to think about, what are you 471 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: to start side B with? You know, it's like I 472 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: haven't thought about that in a long time. You know. 473 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: Is it a different order than if you were to 474 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: stream the record that you did the album the vinyl 475 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: with um? Yes, because because of that butt and on vinyl. 476 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: One of the reasons that we moved away from vinyl 477 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: as a format is because it can only handle a 478 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: certain amount of time on the on the vinyl before 479 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: it starts to lose the quality of the record. Well, no, 480 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 1: it's it's actually the minutes on the record, so like 481 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: something over is over twenty two minutes aside, something about 482 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: the grooves in the vinyl makes the sound quality go 483 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: go the other way. So so there's that, you know. 484 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: So we actually had another song we dropped a song 485 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: on this off of this to make it fit on 486 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: the vinyl, and then I decided not to add it 487 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: back on CD. You can put as many as you want. Um, 488 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: I didn't want to. I didn't do that because I 489 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: didn't want there to be something somewhere that went anywhere else. 490 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: So that's a consideration. And then you have to think about, well, 491 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: if somebody's gonna flip this record over, how does It's 492 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: almost like a a six song playlist on each side? 493 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: Here is come Fly with Me, Come Fly with Me, 494 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: That's fly, that's fly. Did you find that songs like this, 495 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: the more legendary songs were a little harder to do 496 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: because everybody knows them, because I would be like, I 497 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: just don't want to screw this up, and everybody knows yes. 498 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: And also, interestingly, the big, huge, lush symphony ballads were 499 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: not as hard as the lighter like come Fly with Me, 500 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: kind of the jazzy, more rhythmic things, because you find 501 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: yourself trying to think about being cool when you're singing it, 502 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: and you have to not think about it. You have 503 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: to just like you have to go, look, you know 504 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, don't overthink it, don't worry about it, 505 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: just sing it. Um, But yes, I mean come Fly 506 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: with Me one from My Baby one for the road. 507 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: Those are such quintessential Frank songs, right, So you just 508 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: have to hope that people know that you are just 509 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: trying to show your respect. And with Frank it's such 510 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: a weird thing because you want to do it right 511 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: because of Frank's legend. However, people love Frank and if 512 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: you don't do it right. I just I danced to 513 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: a Frank Sinatra song. I dance with Stars, and people 514 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: were lighting me up because I wasn't great at the dancer. 515 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,719 Speaker 1: It's like, how would you could you disrepect Frank Sinatra? 516 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm dancing, this isn't I did 517 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: New York, New York, and they were like, how would 518 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 1: you just I was like, I dance as good as 519 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: I could dancer. I just liked the song. But I 520 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: saw then a little bit how pissy people would get 521 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: when you I wouldn't do everything wonderfully. What you have 522 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: to do is you have to just understand that if 523 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: you I know that my respect level for him and 524 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: his music is high. I know that my intention was 525 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: to make a record that was mine but also was 526 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: a very uh you know, specific tribute to him. And 527 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: there's got to be somebody out there that is like, really, 528 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: what does this country chicks thinking doing a Sinatra record? 529 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: But I really don't care. I mean, it's kind of 530 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: like if you're gonna do it, you know, you go 531 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: out and you dance your heart out Bobby Bones, and 532 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: you don't worry about what I worried about whatever. But 533 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: I thought, because I wasn't, they could dancer for um, 534 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: let's be Frank's out. Um, I should mention that first 535 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: song we played, that's the one that you and Garth wrote, right, 536 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: is that that's what you told me. We talked about 537 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: it on the radio show. No, yeah, we um, yeah 538 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: that one. So I came home with, um, this title 539 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: in my head, and I think I told you when 540 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: we talked before that you know, Garthia one and all 541 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: the songwriter Hall of Fames, And so I'm like, I don't. 542 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: I'm not really a confident writer, and I tend to 543 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: do things that come easy to me, but if they're 544 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: a little bit of work, I give up pretty quickly. 545 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: I'm good at that. And uh, writing is one of 546 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: those things that I mean, I've written all my cookbooks 547 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: and their stories about my life and my family, but 548 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: they're not poems. They don't rhyme. They're not you know, 549 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: I'm not a poet like Garth is, but he is. 550 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: So it worked out really well and we worked on 551 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: this together and um, I really I would I would 552 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: not have. I didn't intend to write a song for 553 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: the record. It wasn't didn't happen at the same time. 554 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: But um, when the song was finished, it felt like 555 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: a throwback to another era. So when this album came about, 556 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: it felt like the place to put it. It fits 557 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: with all the other songs too, like I if I 558 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: would have just played it and not known. Um. Yeah, sorry, 559 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm just off the end of a cold 560 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: and it's like the cough won't go away. You take 561 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: a drink. We'll take a quick break here. You know 562 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: something interesting about you is um you mentioned that you 563 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: that you sang on roughly a hundred Garth songs. Yeah, 564 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: something like that. Do you remember the first time that 565 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: you ever went and sang with him or was he 566 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: just one of the singers you were popping in word? No, 567 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: I mean actually I met Garth. Um. It's kind of 568 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: a famous story. Now. We were introduced by a guy 569 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: named km Blaze who wrote um if Tomorrow never and 570 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: I did demos for Kent. So when during those demo 571 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: days when I was driving around with the cassette in 572 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: my car. UM, Kent was one of the first guys 573 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: I met in Nashville, long before I met Garth, and 574 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: so I kn't had a studio in his attic of 575 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: his house, and I would go over to his house 576 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: and I would sing, and Kent kept saying, I'm working 577 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: with this other guy, and you guys need to meet 578 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: each other. Feel like you guys are really get along, 579 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: and he needed he needs to call you to do 580 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 1: some of his chick singer demos and like cool, and 581 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: Garth was, um, didn't have a record do Yeah, I 582 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: think he had just signed with Capital, didn't have an 583 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: album out yet. And Um, so one day Kent hired 584 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: us uh for to do a demo a duet. So 585 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: we met at Kent's house in the attic for ten 586 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: bucks a song. And Garth says he didn't get paid 587 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: anything that day, but I think he got ten bucks 588 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: that day. And Um, that was the day that we met. 589 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: So we met before he was, you know, famous, And 590 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: I remember him saying because that day he said he 591 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: went to Bob Dole, his manager and said this girl like, 592 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 1: you've got to hear this girl sing. I. UM remember 593 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: him saying, you know, I just got signed to Capital, 594 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm about to put up my first album, and I 595 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: hope someday, you know, we can work together and uh, 596 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: if I'm lucky enough to do well and whatever. And 597 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: remember when he left, I thought that's cool, Like I mean, 598 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: I thought, this guy's got really big dreams. I mean, 599 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: I hope, you know, like he's he's not even released 600 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 1: his album yet and he's asking me to, you know, 601 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 1: be on his tour kind of thing. And then of 602 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 1: course he became Garth Brooks and after that first album, UM, 603 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: then he called me to come and sing on the 604 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: second album, and so it was songs like um, uh 605 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: Cole's Shoulder when that on the second album. Cole Shoulder 606 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: was on the second album. UM, I missed the friends 607 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: in the Places day I was out of town on Toura, 608 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: literally missed that day, which really bummed me out because 609 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: there's like everybody's on that song and I wanted to 610 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: be on that record and it wasn't. UM. But it's 611 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: fast forward to when I got my record deal a 612 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: couple of years later, and uh, by that time, Friends 613 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: in the Places was out and he was this phenomenon, 614 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,239 Speaker 1: you know, and so he he said, let's go over 615 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: to m c A and go see Tony Brown and 616 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: Um about seeing if you want to come out on 617 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: tour with me. And everybody was wanting to be on 618 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: that tour. I mean, it was like the tour to 619 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: be on. And so when we got to the front desk, 620 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: the receptionist, Willie she Um called back to Tony and said, 621 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: Garth and Trisher here, and Garth Fondis is my producer. 622 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: So Tony thought it was me and my producer. And 623 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: so I walked in with Garth Brooks and He's like, 624 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: I'd like to I want to I like to talk 625 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: to you about maybe taking Trisha on this tour, and 626 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: of course I was like yes, you know. So for me, 627 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: it was kind of a blessing and a curse because 628 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: I had grown up doing demos. I had not grown 629 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: up in the clubs. I had not come up through 630 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: learning my way in front of a small crowd of drunks. 631 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: So my very first audiences were opening for Garth and 632 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: you know, doing a set in front of fifteen thousand 633 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: people who didn't know who I was. That was my 634 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: first and of course Garth being Garth, you know, most 635 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: of the time, if you're on a big tour like that, 636 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: the artist has all their stuff and then there's a 637 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: big curtain in front of it and you've got about 638 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: three feet to stand in front of them do your show, 639 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: which would have been a dream coming true for me 640 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: because I was terrified. And of course Garth's like, here, 641 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: use my whole stage, you know. I'm like, oh, that's 642 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: so great. So that was It was terrifying, but I 643 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: had to. It was really baptism by fire, you know. 644 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: And I had cheese and Loved the Boy out, which 645 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: was doing well, but that was the only song I 646 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: had on the radio, so people spent either the entire 647 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: twenty minutes I was out there getting popcorn or yelling 648 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: for she'son Loved the Boy, you know, until that was 649 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: my last song. Is that the first song of yours 650 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: that you heard on the radio? She's in Love with 651 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: the Boy? Yeah? Play that on a little bit. Did 652 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: you know it was coming when you heard it the 653 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: first time? I remember exactly where I was. I was 654 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: just I was right down the street here in Green Hills, 655 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: driving down the road in A had a four door 656 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: Burgundy Honda used and I was driving down that road 657 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: and I heard it come on and I rolled all 658 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: the windows down, and I don't know why. I guess 659 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: I thought I wanted everybody on the street to hear too. 660 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it was like this, you know, 661 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: just this whole your whole body lights up, you know, 662 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: and um, it was the most exciting thing in the 663 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: world because I had literally wanted to be a singer 664 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: since I was five years old. And I remember listening 665 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: to the radio and my mom's and dad's kitchen in 666 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: our house thinking I was naive enough to think, well, 667 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: they're on the radio, why can't I be? And I 668 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: think that's part of the reason that I became one 669 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: of those one percent, because I didn't know the odds. 670 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know what the odds were, and I really 671 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: just believable. If they can do it, why can't I 672 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: do it? Did you feel when you were working at 673 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: the front desk and people would come into work in 674 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: a profession that you wanted to do, that you were 675 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: as good as they were already, Because I know it's 676 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: frustrating when people are doing what you want to do. 677 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: But did you feel like, oh, I'm I'm there talent wise, 678 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: It's just I gotta put in my time. My thing 679 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: was I believed in my voice. I believed that I 680 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: had a voice and that I could sing. But I'm 681 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: I'm basically an introvert. I mean, I'm not like I 682 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: grew up watching Barbara Mandrell on television and she played 683 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: every instrument and she danced and she did all this stuff, 684 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: and I was not. I'm not that kind of an entertainer. 685 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: And so I really thought, um, you know, I'm I 686 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: can sing, I'm a little bit overweight. I don't play 687 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: an instrument. Really. I can play a little bit of guitar, 688 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: but I don't. So I didn't think I had enough. 689 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: I thought, I've got this one skill that I believe in, 690 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: but I don't have all these other ones. So I 691 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: think for me, it was that DID have a strong 692 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: belief in myself, and I don't think if I didn't, 693 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be sitting here. But at the same time, 694 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: I had all these doubts about the things that I 695 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: thought I needed to be able to do before I 696 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: could be be successful at it. So you felt you 697 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: had to develop even then you felt like you need 698 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: to develop a bit more. Yeah, you weren't so strong. No, no, 699 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: I mean And I went to Belmont where there were 700 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: so many music majors, and you couldn't you throw a 701 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: stick without somebody telling you what a great singer they were, 702 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, And I was not that girl. And even 703 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: actually at at MTM Records, UM, after I got my 704 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: record deal, there were people at that building who said, 705 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: we didn't even know, we didn't know you, saying really, yeah, 706 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: so you weren't. You weren't one of the ones that 707 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: were like, hey, I sing i sing? I was not. 708 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: I was not. How did you change that? Then? How 709 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: did you start telling people I sing I sing? I 710 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: think it was because I was shy and I wasn't 711 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: bold about telling people I was a singer. But after 712 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: working at that label for about six months and answering 713 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: the phones and ordering liquid paper and not and watching 714 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,959 Speaker 1: people do what I wanted to do, I realized, if 715 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't tell somebody this is what I do, if 716 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: I don't really get off my butt and try to 717 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: make this happen, then I'm gonna get to do this 718 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: for the rest of my life. And I reconnected. I 719 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: had um, I had a couple of songwriters. One was 720 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: camp Lazy that I had done demos for, and I um, 721 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: I just found those guys again and said, hey, I'm 722 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: trying to find I'm trying to get some demo work, 723 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: and demo work was my way out on once I 724 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: started to get enough work that I could actually quit 725 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: my job. Who wasn't for you that took the big 726 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: shot like you? We went, Wow, this person really like 727 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: put it out there for me to believed in me 728 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: when maybe they didn't have to. I mean there was 729 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: there were several, There were a lot of people. The 730 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: chain of events were the two Garths, honestly, because when 731 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: I met Garth Brooks, he was the person who introduced 732 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: me to Alan Reynolds, his producer, and Alan was really 733 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: a great friend to me because Alan gave me advice 734 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: based on what he thought was best for me, not 735 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: what he thought I could maybe do for him. And 736 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: he was the guy who said you should meet Garth Fundas. 737 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: He's a guy who I feel like you guys really 738 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: hit it off. And Fundus was the one who, when 739 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: he heard me seeing said let's do a showcase. He's 740 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: the one who went to bat for me at the 741 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: record labels and to help me get a record deal. 742 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: And he was the one who helped me get the 743 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: music that was in my head on to tape what 744 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: I what I really wanted, how I really wanted to sound, 745 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: and the music kind of music that I wanted to make. 746 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: So it was it was really all of those people 747 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 1: together because I would never met Garth Fundis, it wouldn't 748 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: have been for Garth Brooks UM, and so I guess 749 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: it really was, you know, ended up being my husband, 750 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: the one that really believed in me. That that was 751 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: like the stargest telling everybody about me. And he didn't 752 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: even have a single on the radio, so he was 753 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: doing that before he was, Yeah, freaking Garth Brooks. He 754 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: was just a guy named Garth. He was he was 755 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: a less famous cards probably at the time, and he 756 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: was and then it was like I knew two Garths. Now. 757 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: Eventually a guy there's a guy who's a tour Manager's 758 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: name is Garth and he came in and UM did 759 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: an interview for a job, and I told him, I said, 760 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: you're probably great at what you do, but I can't 761 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: know you, like I just can't, Like I I have 762 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: two guards in my life. It's already too weird, Like 763 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: I just can't do it. That's a true story that happened. 764 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: That's a lot of gods. I mean, even two guards. 765 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: I know obviously your husband a bit. I don't know 766 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: the other Guarth. I know. It's so it's so odd. 767 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: And actually, if we're all in the studio together, which happens, 768 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: it's very strange, you know. So actually I started calling 769 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: Garth fund As Tennessee because I'm like, I have to 770 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: have like a nickname for you, because I can't because 771 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: I'd say Garth. They both with their head around, you know, 772 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: like because they never hear anybody else called Garth. So yeah, 773 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: so it's a it's a thing on on this new 774 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: Let's Be Frank record you went and recorded, did you 775 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: say you recorded like with the like the mike that 776 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra had used that Does that mike just chill 777 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: there or do they like bring it out for special 778 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: occasions they use it? I mean it's you know, Capital 779 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: is like a working museum, you know. I mean you 780 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: walk and you think this stuff should be behind glass. 781 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: But I guess it's cool that you actually get to 782 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: use this stuff. But at the same time, it's like 783 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: it's Sinatra's microphone, and um and the bar stools in there, 784 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: the straight backed chairs, they're they're like there's tons of 785 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: photos of Frank and and Judy Garland and Dean Martin. 786 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: All this stuff is that is the capital gear. And 787 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: I guess that's part of the vibe. I mean, you 788 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: definitely feel the ghosts in this room when you're in there. 789 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: But I would be afraid to use all that stuff. 790 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: But I mean some of the best microphones, like Nashville, 791 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: where where I make my country records, I use. I 792 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: used this annoyment. It's kell C twelve and it's a 793 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: Now it's a microphone that I've used for years because 794 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: I like how it My voice can tend to if 795 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: I get loud at either the Michael shut down or 796 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: the Michael sound really, I'll sound really tinny and high ending, 797 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: and I don't I want it to still sound warm, 798 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: and that's a challenge. And the other thing is if 799 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: they put a compressor on your voice, then you can 800 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: handle the big loud, but it just still shut your 801 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: voice down. So it's a thing. So there's this one 802 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: microphone that I love, and I've been trying to buy 803 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: this microphone forever, because there are you can put for 804 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: the same exact side by side, but there's one that's 805 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: gonna sound different. And I've been stalking this microphone for 806 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: years and I finally I bought it, like last week. Yeah, 807 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: finally finally they sold Um. Not not terrible, but it's 808 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: it's yeah, but hard to get. And it's an old microphone. 809 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: So so this microphone is probably years old, so it 810 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: is a it's that it's one of those things that 811 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: doesn't that that time is a friend too. It doesn't 812 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: make it like old. This is just old. There is 813 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: something sweet about it. And I will say that that 814 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: that Frank microphone was warm and friendly and it just 815 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 1: made your voice feel like butter and you just felt 816 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: like you could sing anything. One of the things that 817 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: I would compare it because I am very particular about 818 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: the mics that I use every day, right because I 819 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: talk every day, so mikes are important to me, and 820 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: also headphones. But I would compare them to people who don't. 821 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: If you don't work in music or sound like the 822 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: you can have ten pair of jeans that are exactly 823 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: the same, but one of those pair of jeans is 824 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: gonna fit you so just right. You may have three 825 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: pairs you own it the same, but that one pair 826 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: you always go back to because it just feels the 827 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: best and you can't really explain it so much like 828 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: a little bit. You can maybe it fits you a 829 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: little better here, but you're like, oh, this one just 830 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: feels better, like it fits me better. That's how I describe. 831 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling people abology and and the microphone too, and 832 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: what you hear in your headphones. It's so um subjective, right, 833 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: So it's whatever feels good to you. And sometimes it's 834 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: hard to describe if especially if I'm in the studio 835 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: and the engineer is um ask me what I need. 836 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's hard to say exactly what it's doing. But 837 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: if you're if you've worked with somebody long enough, you 838 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: can kind of say I feel this way or that 839 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: way and they're like, oh, I got it, and they'll 840 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: they'll figure it out. That's the one thing I've really 841 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: enjoyed about making records with Garth Fundis, who we've made 842 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: it most of our records with and we've just finished 843 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: in a country record now, is that we've worked together 844 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: for so long that I can tell him something's not right. 845 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: And I don't know exactly what it is, but I 846 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: but something in here is bugging me. And he'll usually go, oh, 847 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: I bet you don't like the blah blah blah here, 848 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: let's turn that down. He he knows me well enough 849 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: to kind of know. So we have a language. That 850 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: is nice because I can't always articulate what I want, 851 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: but he seems to know. Then. It's funny because the 852 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: analogy I used for that is like, if you're getting 853 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: like a massage, it's hard to say exactly where it hurts. 854 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: But if they like confined it, you're like, Oh, that's it, 855 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: that's it, that's it right there, Like that's that's how 856 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: adjusting something that you really can't explain is. Yeah, for sure. 857 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: Oh you gotta come back a little bit there, right there, 858 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: right there there is That's that's also the sound I 859 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: do when you do from this Let's be Frank record, 860 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: Will you do any of these songs live? Yeah? Um 861 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: we we just did our first show um at the 862 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 1: Rainbow Room in New York, um fitting for the Frank Record, 863 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: and it was the first time I had done all 864 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: of these songs and it was really funny. You'll find 865 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: this funny I think I had done a few of 866 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: the songs, but I hadn't done the whole show. And 867 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of press in New York 868 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: that week, and um, I'd had a long day. It 869 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: was one of those morning shows where IVE gotten up 870 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: at four and then I had a show that night. 871 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: And in about three o'clock that afternoon, before sound check, 872 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: it hit me, I haven't done these songs, like, I 873 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: don't know if I know all the words? Did they 874 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: all laughed? And the Ladies of Tramp. There's a lot 875 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: of verses, and there's a lot going on here, and 876 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm nervous, and as the Rainbow Room and its New York, 877 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: and so I spent a couple of hours while I 878 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: was getting made hair, makeup, and everybody's coming and asking 879 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: me questions, listening and listening and listening. So I was 880 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: terrified that night because I thought, I can't go out 881 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: of here and this. I've been waiting to do this 882 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: record for twenty years, and I don't remember all the 883 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: words to the Ladies of Tramp, like I will be 884 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: I will be carried out of here. You know, someone 885 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: will record on their phone right exactly. Um, And but 886 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: I did I did find it was a good night. 887 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: It was a good night, but I was terrified. Um, 888 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 1: and I loved it, like I loved singing these songs. 889 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: We did a few of like we did She's and 890 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: Loved the Boy, and we did um walk Away Joe. 891 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: But I kind of couldn't wait to get to these 892 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: songs just because Um. And when we do when we 893 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: do a tour, we'll do some of the songs that 894 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: people know me for, but we'll also do these. It's 895 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: just I don't know how we're going to do it, 896 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: because you kind of want your it's kind of changing 897 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: into a different mode, and when you're in that mode, 898 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: you kind of want to stay there. So we'll see 899 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: how we do it. I've done some symphony shows before 900 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: before I made this record. Um, and I have some 901 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: really cool orchestra arrangements for some of those songs. But UM, 902 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 1: so we'll see. Bet that band's expensive. Talking about expensive 903 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: band orchestra, yeah, I mean yes, I mean that's the thing. 904 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people don't use live orchestra 905 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: anymore because it's so expensive. L A was good, and 906 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: they a lot of work because they had a lot 907 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: of movie scores and stuff. But um, fifty pieces. I mean, 908 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: you know this album will have to do well for 909 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: me to do another one, because it's really a lot 910 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 1: of money and you don't have to do that anymore. 911 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: But I can't imagine having done this another way. To 912 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: be in the room with everybody, it's almost like you're 913 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: all taking insane breath in and out, and the conductors 914 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: across from you, and he's looking at you for a 915 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: signal of how long do you want to pause here 916 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: and how and you're all working together and it feels 917 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: like you're just another instrument in the room. And I 918 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: can't imagine doing it another way. It was. It's one 919 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: of the coolest things ever. Would you use a prompter 920 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 1: let's say the words you just didn't have it? Would 921 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 1: you put a prompter up? I mean, I hope I've 922 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: never done that. I hope not, because here's what. Here's 923 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: what I find if I'm doing an award show or 924 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: something and they they'll have the prompter. I even if 925 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: I if I'm singing She's a Lot of the Boy, 926 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: which I sugn a million times, and I know I'm 927 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna look at the prompter, you know, So 928 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a thing that makes you look. 929 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: And I've been to shows and seeing people use prompter 930 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: and I find them staring at the prompter, and so 931 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to be that girl. So as long 932 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: as I can remember the words, and if I forget words, 933 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: I just blame someone else, like I blame the microphone. 934 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: I pretend something's wrong, you know, like I have lots 935 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: of ways around it, or I just acknowledge I totally 936 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: totally forgot the words. Um. I'd rather do that, I 937 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: think than um. And I have a pretty good memory 938 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: for lyrics. So as long as I do, I'm gonna 939 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep doing that. You mentioned walk Away Joe, 940 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: and we'll play that just for a bit here, a 941 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: song like that that you're saying times, right, do you 942 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: go into a mode of like when you drive, you 943 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: know you're driving, but you've driven this way so many 944 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: times that you probably are doing most of that driving subconsciously. 945 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: Do you do that with these massive songs where it's 946 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 1: just like you're so comfortable it's hard to not fall 947 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: back into the subconscious place of just singing the song. 948 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I would would be lying if I said 949 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: I'd never done that. But the time, I I'm so 950 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: dramatic and I love a story, and I always make 951 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: myself a character in the story. So if in that 952 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: in walk Away Joe, I'm a character for those three 953 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,479 Speaker 1: and a half minutes, you know. So I really get 954 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: lost in the lyric of a song and I enjoy that. 955 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: That's part of what I get out of live performing. 956 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: So I will say that I I'm sure I've done it, 957 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: but I also do really think about this. This is 958 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 1: something that that I learned on the Growth tour. There's 959 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: gonna be somebody in the audience who's never seen you 960 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 1: before and it's never going to see you again, and 961 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: the only time they're ever going to hear walk Away 962 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: Joe live is this moment, and so I don't really 963 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: want to be making my mental grocery list while they're 964 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: in there for that moment. And I do think about 965 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: that before I go out. So, um, I'm sure I've 966 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: done it, but I try not to do it. And 967 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: Mickey Mantle would say, there's always somebody in in the 968 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: stands who has never seen Mickey Mantle before and will 969 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: never see Mickey Mantle again. So I gotta go out 970 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: and make it special for that person. But it's such 971 00:41:58,719 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: a hard thing to do because you see you do 972 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: it so often, do you in carthe give to the 973 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: pep talks because I've never met either one of you 974 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: together separately, and you're not just awesome, and it's almost 975 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: annoying where it's like I would like to I'd like 976 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: to catch you on off day because that just means 977 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: you're human. You know you guys have never not been 978 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: awesome to me. Well, I'm more human than him, I mean, 979 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: I think he I think one of the reasons that 980 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: I have um more of a grateful, positive outlook in 981 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: life in general is because of him, because he he 982 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: looks at everything in a positive way. I mean, he 983 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: will he will spend the positive no matter what, And 984 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: I think that I I want to be that, but 985 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: I'm not as much so as him, but I am 986 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 1: more so that way with him in my life. And 987 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: I think that there's just a I mean, honestly, when 988 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: you really think about it, what we'd get to do 989 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: for a living, if you really think about it, is 990 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: so such a great job. It's not even really a job. 991 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: It's like I'm getting paid to have every day be 992 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: different in my life. And I get to go sing 993 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: and I get to basically set my own schedule, and 994 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm doing what I have always wanted to do my 995 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: whole life. So I really, if I complain about that, 996 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: someone should really just punch me in the face. Can 997 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: I be Devil's advocate for a second? Yes, you sacrifice 998 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: a lot. You have a lot of talent. It's not 999 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: that anybody can do it. And you not only have 1000 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: a lot of talent because a lot of people have talent, 1001 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,760 Speaker 1: but people don't have talent and work ethic. And again 1002 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 1: it's that perfect mixture of the both and also catching 1003 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: a couple of breaks and giving a couple of breaks. 1004 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,959 Speaker 1: Like it is. I agree with you because I feel 1005 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: the same way. But again, it's not like it was 1006 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: handed to you and you go out and go you 1007 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: know what this this is given to me. I actually 1008 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: appreciate what was given to me, like you work so 1009 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: hard for it. Well, I think there is. I mean, 1010 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a Will Rogers quote that's something about 1011 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: um luck is disguised in overalls and something. I felt 1012 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 1: like it's a bunch of work. But I mean, I 1013 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 1: think it is a drive that makes the work feel 1014 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,439 Speaker 1: like not work really because it's you're so driven. I don't. 1015 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: I always say I don't feel like I chose this, 1016 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: Like I never I didn't wake up one day and go, hey, 1017 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: I think it'd be really cool to be a singer. 1018 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I was and it felt like a 1019 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: calling and it was almost It was hard when I 1020 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: couldn't do it because as a young girl and as 1021 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: a teenager in a small town where nobody did what 1022 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to do, I didn't know how to go 1023 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,439 Speaker 1: about it. And that was the most frustrating part. Once 1024 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: I got to Nashville, then I'm like, Okay, I'm here now, 1025 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna be here and I'm gonna I'm 1026 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: just gonna figure it out. There's a drive there. And 1027 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: I am a person who I like balance. So like yesterday, 1028 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: I didn't have anything on my schedule yesterday and I 1029 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: stayed in my pajamas most of the day. I play 1030 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: with my dogs, I read a book, I had coffee 1031 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: and I loved it. But I couldn't. I couldn't do 1032 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: that every day. I need this. This has been a 1033 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: great day. It's been a really busy day. I've had 1034 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,919 Speaker 1: the best day. So it's a it's and it's because 1035 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm doing what I enjoy. Yeah, I feel the same way, 1036 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: and I work really hard but also love what I do, 1037 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: which makes me work really hard, which it's because I love. 1038 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: It's just a it's a nice little circle. Yeah. The 1039 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,919 Speaker 1: recycle arrows almost as like you do have to figure 1040 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: out the balance when you have I don't have that yet. 1041 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: Do you know anybody, I don't even life balance? Let 1042 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: me know, Um, yeah, yeah, I don't know. If I 1043 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: can help you that, don't tell them. I don't drink though, 1044 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: because it runs the whole thing. I want to talk 1045 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: about that though, Bobby. We have to find you. We 1046 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: have to find you that balance. You need it because 1047 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 1: you will just work all the time if you don't 1048 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: have it. Back, well, that's what I do. Here's my 1049 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: cycle is that I go, I'm gonna work all the 1050 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 1: time because if I work hard, I gets because called 1051 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: somebody will like me, right, And then I work all 1052 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: the time and I don't build my my ecosystem of 1053 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: friends and folks, and so when I go, you know what, 1054 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna work. I'm gonna take a second and 1055 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: I take a break. And there's no ecosystem of friends 1056 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: that folks around me because I haven't built. It's like 1057 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: being a gardener. We're not playing in the garden for 1058 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: my food. We didn't plant an idiot, that's why. That's like, 1059 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying to myself. And then I'm like, 1060 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 1: you know it screwed this. I don't want to be 1061 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: I don't have system is gonna keep working so it 1062 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: never end. After you've been through all the Netflix you 1063 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,959 Speaker 1: can watch, then it's time to go back to work. Yeah, 1064 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 1: I do want you have watch Netflix? What do you 1065 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: what do you watch recently? Um? Well, I've been on 1066 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: this whole kick of all these really disturbing documentaries on 1067 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: everything that you know, from abducted in plain Site to 1068 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: so disturbing. I couldn't I couldn't help myself to Dirty 1069 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: John too. Like it's just like I really need to 1070 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: watch like a Disney movie, although usually someone dies in 1071 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: the first five minutes, so that's not good. When need 1072 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: to find something else that abducted a plain side so disturbing, 1073 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: so incredibly disturbing. I'm glad it was only one episode 1074 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: I caught one' have done in a second one. Yeah, 1075 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: I get excited when I find me too. I get 1076 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: excited when I find out a show that I love 1077 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 1: has new episodes that I didn't know so that I 1078 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: can bange watch. So I just figured out the second 1079 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: half of the last of this current season of Shameless 1080 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: is out and I didn't know it. So yesterday, when 1081 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: I was in my pajamas, I got to watch like 1082 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: four episodes in a row that I had not seen, 1083 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: and I was so excited because I love that show. Um, 1084 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: you watched Ted Bundy tapes. I did. That's that's I 1085 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: can't wait to the movie. I can't wait to see 1086 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: the movie movies and it's it's a Netflix movie too, 1087 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: is it? Yeah, so it'll be right right into our 1088 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: even the great isn't The great thing about Netflix movies 1089 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 1: is that they don't even tell you they're coming, so 1090 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: you don't sit there and go I can't wait. I 1091 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: can't wait. It's like boom, you got a movie and 1092 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: I love it. It's cray. I was a kid. I 1093 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: was in high school in um or junior high was it? 1094 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: It was eighties, right, so I was in high school. 1095 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: So when that story was real and a thing, it 1096 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: was before cell phones. It was also really before like 1097 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 1: serial murders. It was like, that was kind of the beginning. 1098 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: So I remember, and one of my best friends who 1099 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: lives here in Nashville is from Seattle, and she she 1100 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: there's that that park that one of the girls was. 1101 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: She was in that park that day and um, she 1102 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: and her girlfriend saw a VW bug drive by and 1103 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: slow down and then they went and they ran, they 1104 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 1: ran into the woods, and I'm like, maybe you saw that, 1105 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: Like I think you might have seen Ted Bundy that day. Like, so, 1106 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: it's it's terrifying when you realize that it's kind of 1107 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: happened when it could have happened to you as as 1108 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: a young girl. And also that it was kind of 1109 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: the beginning of this whole serial killer thing. So if 1110 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 1: you if you were alive during that time, I mean, 1111 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: our kids go, well, I don't, I don't even understand it. 1112 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it was. It was a thing. It 1113 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: was a big deal. The craziest thing about that to 1114 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: me was state to state you could basically go do 1115 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: whatever you want in this state, just jump over the 1116 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 1: state line, and they didn't share records with each other. 1117 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: You're a brand new man, all right, I Mean, isn't 1118 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 1: he the reason that there became like an FBI database 1119 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 1: because there wasn't one right that and also the fact 1120 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: that he escaped jail twice blew my mind. He would 1121 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: practice jumping off his top cell to get his legs 1122 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: strong so we can jump out of the building. Then 1123 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: when he lost all the weight so we could go 1124 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,919 Speaker 1: through the little ceiling square in the ceiling to get out. 1125 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, yeah, that was crazy. And then 1126 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: I felt guilty when it was over because I really 1127 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: enjoyed it, like I enjoyed the show of it, and 1128 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 1: I enjoyed learning the history of it. And I'm like, oh, 1129 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: I shouldn't feel that way. So then I watched like 1130 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: five episode of the Office to kind of cleanse myself. Something. 1131 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: I do want to talk about this country record that 1132 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna put out, I'll just called it. I would 1133 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: even call it a country record. I would s there 1134 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: your record, another record, because like it's time right, like 1135 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: just me talking like it's time right. Yes, I mean 1136 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: thank you, I mean yes, I mean I think what happened, 1137 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: honestly was I didn't say I'm going to take several 1138 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: years off of making records. It just the tour with 1139 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: ar plus the cooking show, which I you know, I 1140 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: never dreamed I would be doing all this other stuff. 1141 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 1: It's sort of became well, I'll i'll make a record, 1142 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: I'll make a record, and it just kind of kept 1143 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: getting put on the back burner. And it is what 1144 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: feeds my soul. It is what I do. It is 1145 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: what brings me the most joy of all these things 1146 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: I do that I love. And so last year or 1147 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,879 Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen, after the tour ended, I just made 1148 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,359 Speaker 1: it a priority and like, I'm making music this year. 1149 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 1: And that's how the Sinatra record happened. And then I 1150 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 1: started the country record, which I would call it a 1151 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: country record in uh in May, and we're mixing starting 1152 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: this week. So um, it was so much fun. It 1153 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: reminded me that that whole life is short and get 1154 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 1: get after it thing. I don't want to wait. I 1155 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: want to just keep making music. I'm not worried about 1156 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: at this point in my life. I'm not worried about 1157 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: how I'm going to get it out there. I'll figure 1158 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: that out. I mean, I don't know about radio, I 1159 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 1: don't know about any of those things. But I wasn't 1160 00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: thinking about any of that in the studio. I was 1161 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 1: just finding songs. That felt good. I laughed a lot, 1162 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: I sang a lot. I feel like my voice feel strong, 1163 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: I feel good, and I just I did what I do. 1164 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: If you're going to call yourself an artist, that's what 1165 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: you do. And then you figure out someone else will 1166 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 1: help you figure out how you get it out there? 1167 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: Do you guys record a song and songs that you 1168 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,280 Speaker 1: obviously really love and go, oh, that could be the single? 1169 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: Like do you do you now? Are you leaning towards one? 1170 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: You're going I think this is the one that and 1171 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: whatever single means radio highlighted on playlist you know it first. 1172 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 1: It's funny because at first I said and I said, um, 1173 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: I'm not making her, don't I'm not even gonna send 1174 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 1: this record radio, Like I'm just gonna make an album. 1175 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care about having anything on 1176 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: the radio. And then as I started making the record 1177 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: and started listening to the songs and started like I 1178 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,320 Speaker 1: love these songs, and I'm like, well, this could be 1179 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: a single, you know, and so so we're I'm just 1180 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,879 Speaker 1: about at that place where I'm going to figure that out. 1181 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: But I it's funny because I guess it's ego or 1182 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: it's my own self confidence. But when I hear it, 1183 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 1: I go, I I can hear this on on the radio, 1184 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: So I mean, that'll be for a group of people 1185 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: to weigh in on. But I feel like, um, I 1186 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: feel like there's there's certain things and the cool thing 1187 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: is the hard thing is I'm fifty four, I'm a woman. 1188 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 1: There's so those are two big strikes against me for radio. 1189 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: But the good news is that there is more opportunity, 1190 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: I think, and openness to do things however you do 1191 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 1: them now, So it doesn't it's not as well you've 1192 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: got to be on these three labels and you can 1193 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: only get there's there's just a million ways to do 1194 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 1: it now, So I think there's While some things are harder, 1195 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: some things are easier. So, um, we'll see. I'm excited 1196 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 1: about it. Well, thank you. I am too, I really am. 1197 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,800 Speaker 1: I mean I when we made the this let's be 1198 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: frank in the summer, I've been chomping at the bit 1199 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 1: to get it out, and now that it's out, I'm 1200 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,399 Speaker 1: chopping at the bit to get the country record out. 1201 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 1: So um, I'm I'm very excited to come in and 1202 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: talk to you about it. Yeah, don't send it to 1203 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 1: me early, though I will not listen to it. I 1204 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,840 Speaker 1: will not send it to you early, right, not that 1205 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: you were going to, but don't send it to me early. 1206 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 1: What's good to know because I want, I want to 1207 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,479 Speaker 1: send it to you and you'll listen to it. Well, 1208 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 1: My thing is, I think you can be of the 1209 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 1: industry of the people, right, one of the two. And 1210 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 1: I don't listen to music early because I don't want 1211 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,239 Speaker 1: to be cooler than my people, and so some of 1212 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: my best friends will go won't listen to it. I 1213 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 1: just I have a rule. And it's also a slippery slope, 1214 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 1: but but it's mostly about I don't want to be 1215 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 1: of the industry and it gets me a trouble a lot, 1216 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,359 Speaker 1: you know, good and bad, you know Yin yang. But 1217 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 1: I just I won't because like I like to wake 1218 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: up on the Friday and and I'll listen to it 1219 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: before I go to show sometimes sometimes after Never can 1220 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: I hear a full record before I go on the air. 1221 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 1: It takes an hour sometimes it's a weeds a record 1222 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 1: takes nineteen minutes. One of the two. Um, and I 1223 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 1: like to experience it like my people experience it. And 1224 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: so yeah, like I'm excited if you come in early 1225 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: and we do an interview. This is what this is 1226 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 1: my moral dilemma. If you come in early, because sometimes 1227 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: let's say you're gonna go to press in New York, 1228 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to talk to me on 1229 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 1: album day and you come in on a Wednesday and 1230 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 1: have to like play the clips. I feel like I'm 1231 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 1: dirty to my people because but I have to the interview. 1232 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 1: I feel bad. I shouldn't hear this. It's like a 1233 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,879 Speaker 1: baby that covers ear muffs from old school. Well, it's 1234 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: kind of like I will, like I want to go 1235 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: support the artists. So even for myself, like I have 1236 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 1: a thing where I go and buy my album on 1237 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 1: the first day. It's kind of like that. I mean, 1238 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,479 Speaker 1: I um, and if somebody gives me an advanced copy 1239 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:27,919 Speaker 1: of something, I still want to go buy it because 1240 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: I want all the artwork and I want I want 1241 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,760 Speaker 1: everything I want to I want to have the original whatever. 1242 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 1: So I still do that since the very first album. 1243 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 1: I go and buy my my records every on the 1244 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: on release day. Let me mention Tricious Tilgate real quick, 1245 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: tell me about that. So when we were doing the 1246 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 1: tour with Garth the last one. I guess I just 1247 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: didn't notice it because I mean, I'm a sports girl, 1248 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 1: so I know about tailgating and that's the thing in 1249 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: Georgia especially, but um, everybody tailgates for these concerts and 1250 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: they're there all day long and they're just waiting and 1251 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 1: waiting for the show. So we thought we'd set up 1252 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: a big tent, make it a very cool, very nice 1253 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: tailgate if you want to come before orhand seven or 1254 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: eight Tricia dishes and drinks and games and we're gonna 1255 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: do food demos. It's just gonna be. It's kind of 1256 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 1: like the ultimate tailgate for about three hours before doors 1257 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 1: open to go in and see the stadium show. You 1258 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: guys are still giving to the fans. You know that. 1259 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 1: You probably hear it's some but you don't get to here. 1260 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: People talk about you behind your back that often. But 1261 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 1: the thing that said about both you and Garth and 1262 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: I said up to your face a minute ago, you 1263 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: guys are always great, and so we wonder are you real? 1264 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: Like you what's under that skin? I have to get 1265 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: back in my pod later. Yeah, do you walk into 1266 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: recharged like back in like the iPhone? But yeah, I mean, 1267 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 1: you guys are, And I think that for a lot 1268 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 1: of artists that's something to look at is that you 1269 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: guys really you know where my grandmaways say, well your 1270 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 1: bread is buttered, and and now I've learned from you 1271 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,959 Speaker 1: guys too, And but I also know that my people 1272 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 1: got me here there. I want to be doing this, 1273 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: I want to be doing the radio show. I want 1274 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,800 Speaker 1: to be doing stand up on the road if it 1275 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 1: weren't for the people. But you guys are superstars and 1276 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 1: you still keep that as your number one. That's awesome 1277 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 1: to me. Well, I think you definitely have to keep 1278 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: in mind that you don't get to go out there 1279 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 1: and do those shows if those people don't show up. 1280 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 1: You know that that doesn't that doesn't fly, you know. 1281 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 1: I think there's a real realization of that. And I 1282 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 1: I'm in a relationship. I keep giving Garth credit, but 1283 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean when I my very first tour was opening 1284 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: for him in and it was like it was like 1285 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,760 Speaker 1: the way to be one on one with him because 1286 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 1: he was he was He became a superstar, I mean 1287 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: like no one has seen in country music. And I 1288 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 1: watched him helping roll up chords that load out and 1289 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: being kind to every single person in his path, and 1290 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 1: I remember thinking, well, he's Garth Brooks, like he doesn't 1291 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,280 Speaker 1: have to be nice and people won't nobody's gonna say 1292 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: anything because he's the like he's the star of the show. 1293 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: But the way he treated people was a lesson for me. 1294 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: And we both were raised by families who would not 1295 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: have tolerated us not being nice to people. But at 1296 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 1: the same time, you know, you gotta hit record and 1297 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,720 Speaker 1: people are opening the door for you and carrying your bags. 1298 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,359 Speaker 1: I might have gone down the path of I'm how 1299 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 1: in somewhere in my brain thinking I deserve that, but 1300 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: living with him and being around him, it was a 1301 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 1: great lesson to see to remember who you are always 1302 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: and no matter what happens to you. And I mean, 1303 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 1: I really do credit him with that because he and 1304 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: it's genuine. You know, I've known him such a long 1305 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: time now, and I thought, at some point, the other 1306 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,879 Speaker 1: shoe's gotta drop, Like I think he's I think he's 1307 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: a he's a unicorn for sure. Like I keep thinking, 1308 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to see the other side and he's just 1309 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 1: a good guy. He just is and yeah, oh yeah, 1310 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: it's total baby, Yeah, total baby. Yes, he's got a cold. 1311 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,880 Speaker 1: He's like, oh my god, he's not a good patient. 1312 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 1: Is what I figured. I knew he's not. All right, 1313 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 1: let's be frank. Um is out now, and that the 1314 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 1: new country record, which we haven't said a name of 1315 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 1: anything yet. I don't know a name of anything. You 1316 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: don't know the name yet. I've got a couple ideas, 1317 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 1: but I'll probably have one by the next let me 1318 00:56:52,120 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 1: at Let's be tricia nice, consider it. Let's I really 1319 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 1: enjoyed our talking, you know, I really enjoy you. Um, 1320 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: you are a delight, you really are. I love this. 1321 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 1: It's like this time has gone really quickly. So we've 1322 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 1: been here seven hours really already tomorrow. Wow. Yeah, it's 1323 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 1: like when you start dating someone you talk older than 1324 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 1: night that's here. Yeah right, yeah, you wouldn't know anything 1325 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,479 Speaker 1: about that, about that all right, Let's be frank really, 1326 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: thank you, and everybody check out. Let's be Frank, and 1327 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: we'll just sit and wait, sit on our hands until 1328 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 1: the country and I won't play it for you early, 1329 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 1: but I won't bring it to you the day of. 1330 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: If you have a party, I will not be there. 1331 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 1: And we're gonna have to do the release a Nashville 1332 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 1: just so I can come play it for you that day. 1333 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 1: It's going to have to happen. It's so weird to 1334 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 1: have an artist play music for you, though, because I 1335 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 1: have to do this thing where you just bob your 1336 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,439 Speaker 1: head and act like you're feeling it. This is not 1337 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 1: what do you do if you're not like? What if 1338 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 1: you don't say you do? You go into it the 1339 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 1: same way every time when this is you ready, I'm 1340 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:54,959 Speaker 1: act right now? All right? M m, that's it? Oh wow, 1341 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 1: it was good. Like it's the same bust that I'm 1342 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 1: gonna watch you like a hawk. Next time we get 1343 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 1: together and you're listening I'm my music, I will know. 1344 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 1: I won't listen to ask Leslie. I will listen to 1345 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 1: a song with somebody in front of me out of 1346 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 1: your mind. So as an artist, I go and sit 1347 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: with a publisher and a songwriter and they play me 1348 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 1: their song that they poured their heart into, and I 1349 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 1: have to say face to face to them, I mean, 1350 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 1: that's just not for me. Should I say that to 1351 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 1: you record? You know what? Just not for me? I 1352 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 1: mean it's great, but it's just not for me. I 1353 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 1: like the old stuff. You would kill me. It's really 1354 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 1: that hard. That's your job to do that. It's hard 1355 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 1: to do. I hate, I hate to make people sad. Yeah, 1356 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: me too, So let me just say already, I love 1357 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 1: every song you're you've made and a're gonna make. Thank you, alright, 1358 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 1: t hear one, episode one sixty four. We'll see you 1359 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 1: guys next time.