WEBVTT - Defend and Pound Back

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson was taking cover in a bunker designed to protect

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<v Speaker 1>troops against much smaller warheads weighing only sixty pounds. Knocked

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<v Speaker 1>the wind out of me, followed by the most putrid

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<v Speaker 1>tasting ammonia, uh tasting dust that swept through the bunker

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<v Speaker 1>coated your teeth. After the blast wave and debris came

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<v Speaker 1>the flames. The fire was just rolling over the bunkers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like seventy ft in the air. Johnson's bunker

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<v Speaker 1>provided no protection from that. We're gonna burn to death.

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<v Speaker 1>We start heading down and make it about a third

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<v Speaker 1>of the way there, the big voice we call it

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<v Speaker 1>clicks in. Incoming, incoming, Take cover, Take cover, Take cover.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got another football field to run. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>when this next missile is gonna hit. Can you hear

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<v Speaker 1>the incoming like a freight train going by you? So

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<v Speaker 1>as from Sunday night sixty minutes. The second story, which

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<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend if you haven't seen it, You remember

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<v Speaker 1>when Trump killed that Iranian general, their top general obliterated

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<v Speaker 1>in with a drone strike. Well, Iran's response to that

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<v Speaker 1>was firing some missiles at our base in Iraq. And

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<v Speaker 1>the story at the time, as I remember it was

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like they gave us a heads up. We

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<v Speaker 1>got everybody out of there. They kind of fired something

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<v Speaker 1>to save face, and that was about it. Well Sunday night,

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<v Speaker 1>at least, it was the first time I'd heard the

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<v Speaker 1>real story. It was a serious attempt. It certainly appears

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<v Speaker 1>to take out a whole bunch of planes and equipment

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<v Speaker 1>and a bunch of people. And it's a miracle that

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't have a bunch of Americans die. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the attack, the spin, the could have beens with

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<v Speaker 1>military analyst Mike Lyons served with the United States Army

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<v Speaker 1>very capacity various capacities in the US and Europe Ron

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<v Speaker 1>Star winner for his actions in combat. Mike, how are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 1>Great to be back. Anything you want to straighten out

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<v Speaker 1>about our setup? If where we get into our questions now?

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<v Speaker 1>Spot on. I I'm still trying to get my head

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<v Speaker 1>around what what we were thinking. And um, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that was surely not a recruiting video for the U. S. Military.

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<v Speaker 1>How do we allow ourselves to get pounded like that? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>From the Uranians? And the same thing I had heard

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<v Speaker 1>back at the time was they had targeted empty buildings

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<v Speaker 1>and my sources told me that was what happened. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>so when that major told that, so a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>concerning too, when he begins that with a goodbye to

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<v Speaker 1>his son. I'm always concerned about people like that in combat,

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<v Speaker 1>only because you know, self fulfilling prophecy has come true.

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell you when I was in combat, I

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of my soldiers wrote good bye letters to

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<v Speaker 1>their wives and things like that. And my wife was

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<v Speaker 1>asked me why I never did that, And it's because

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<v Speaker 1>I just think self fulfilling prophecies come through. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come eight time zones to die in that desert anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's really interesting stuff right there. I realized that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a side. But that's that's a fascinating psychological thing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I And and the fact that your soldier you can't

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<v Speaker 1>think that way. And um so the way that whole

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<v Speaker 1>sixty minute story began, and then as I started, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>getting into more into it, I'm just looking at this

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<v Speaker 1>going we've gotta be kidding here. And but I I

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<v Speaker 1>actually think after talking to folks in the Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about how they communicated with the president. So

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<v Speaker 1>what I've been trying to figure out since I watched that,

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<v Speaker 1>why did our Pentagon or government whoever made the decision

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<v Speaker 1>want to keep it a secret that Iran came out

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<v Speaker 1>of so hard. I think it had to do with

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what we're doing as normal business right now

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that presidents and I think the last

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<v Speaker 1>drone strike that President Biden just did is another example

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<v Speaker 1>of our presidents are getting out of touch with what

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<v Speaker 1>the commander in chief is supposed to do, because he

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<v Speaker 1>should have been Trump should have been briefed on all

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<v Speaker 1>the aspects at this top to bottom. When that mission

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<v Speaker 1>was over, should have been briefed, and this should have

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<v Speaker 1>been told the extent of the damage that was there.

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<v Speaker 1>But it seems as though what was only communicated to

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<v Speaker 1>him was nobody died, and so that was the bar

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<v Speaker 1>that was the most Almost nobody died. We're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do anything. We're not gonna retaliate. I just don't get

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<v Speaker 1>why we didn't retaliate, And it just goes to show

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't have any strategic vision, We don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a strategic deterrence. For example, you do that to the Israelis,

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<v Speaker 1>the strategic deterrence is you get you got one X

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<v Speaker 1>comes to us. You're getting ten times coming back to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't understand why we didn't have Patriot missiles there.

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<v Speaker 1>We had airplanes there, and what was it a politically

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<v Speaker 1>not expedient to put them there or the signal that

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<v Speaker 1>would send. I mean, all those mistakes we've made in

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<v Speaker 1>the past in the nineties and Mogan issue so so

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<v Speaker 1>again time after time. These people are so close to

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<v Speaker 1>the situation and the President just isn't didn't ask the

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<v Speaker 1>right questions. And the fact of the matter is, no,

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<v Speaker 1>the bar wasn't casualties. The bar was they destroyed equipment,

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<v Speaker 1>They destroyed a lot of different things, and we got

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<v Speaker 1>to retaliate right. Well, they also caused a tremendous amount

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<v Speaker 1>of traumatic brain injury. Just real quickly, Mike, we got

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<v Speaker 1>a note from somebody in intelligence who knows of somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who knows of somebody who was in the situation room

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<v Speaker 1>in the attack was happening, and says that President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to strike back immediately and was talked down by

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Pompeo, who knows if that's true. Um, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>little surprised that you're assuming that the President didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>the full extent of the attack and the damage done well,

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<v Speaker 1>so so the right so communication. Let's gets back to

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<v Speaker 1>what I've talked to people that have been around the

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<v Speaker 1>president say, you've got to speak his language. So usually

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like Donald Trump has not talked out of

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. But if that was the case, that

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<v Speaker 1>that that happened, if Pompeo talks not, he would be

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that could do it because he speaks the

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<v Speaker 1>president's language, and in most cases that means getting in

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<v Speaker 1>the word no casualties in the first five seconds of

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation. Uh. And that's you know, really what I

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<v Speaker 1>think is happening here. And I think that the President

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<v Speaker 1>didn't rely on his instincts well enough, didn't have that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even seem there was a plan for it, like

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<v Speaker 1>for example, the second those rockets left Iranian territory, we

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<v Speaker 1>have targeted on them. We could respond it immediately to them.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think again that question gets back to

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<v Speaker 1>where are your defense capable? Reason why if we were

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<v Speaker 1>going to have all these airplanes sitting in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the desert in a in a rock we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any way to protect him? What were we thinking?

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen them use those rockets before if three or

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<v Speaker 1>seventy Americans had died in that attack, which could have

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<v Speaker 1>very easily happened, right, I feel like if we were

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<v Speaker 1>told about it, I don't think you could keep that secret. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there would have been pretty big public pressure for a

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<v Speaker 1>world pressure to to to strike back, wouldn't there have been? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>And and that's why that shouldn't have been the bar.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you know how the story even comes

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<v Speaker 1>out right now, ob obviously fell through the cracks between

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<v Speaker 1>these two administrations because it just doesn't make us look good. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>even in the Biden administration, it it comes out, and

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<v Speaker 1>if he wants to make things better in the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 1>the story doesn't do that either. So um so again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just surprised on how graphic and how much detail

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<v Speaker 1>came out. You know, four star general there's speaking about

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<v Speaker 1>how we're basically running away from these Iranian incoming missiles.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just shaking my head, saying, you had the job

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<v Speaker 1>job to defend that place, not not to be not

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<v Speaker 1>to take a pounding like that, but be ready to

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<v Speaker 1>deliver one back. So I don't know. Mil Concerned Military

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<v Speaker 1>analyst Major Mike Leons is on the line. The other

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<v Speaker 1>thing my friend in military intelligence said was that if

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<v Speaker 1>we had retaliated, that could have been a big step

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<v Speaker 1>toward an eventual war with China. He said, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have time to explain right now. I wonder if you

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<v Speaker 1>have any idea what was on his mind? Geo politically speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>how did how did those steps take place? Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>here's nobody wants to fight the United States conventionally. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure you know if that means that China would

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<v Speaker 1>have done something in the South China seat, maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>would be the case. Um, but no one wants to

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<v Speaker 1>fight the US conventionally, and so we've got to play

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<v Speaker 1>to our strength, and this would have been our strength.

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<v Speaker 1>Our strength would have been responding to this one particular attack.

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<v Speaker 1>Now again we're he's making a presumption, or he's making

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<v Speaker 1>a presumption that China is going to start anything with us.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think that's going to be the case. Um. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>deterrence what keeps these other countries from doing this In

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<v Speaker 1>the very beginning, we know what's China is because China

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<v Speaker 1>knows that doesn't want to get into a conventional war

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<v Speaker 1>with US. So what you know again, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>all these excuses that come out about why we attack it,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't attack again. Go back to the Syrian the

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<v Speaker 1>recent one with the Biden administration thought it was okay

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<v Speaker 1>now to attack Iranians or Iraqi's inside of Syria for

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<v Speaker 1>a retaliation for a drone strike, you know, two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>My head is just just shaking because where is the

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<v Speaker 1>strategic deterrence. But the person who comes up with the

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<v Speaker 1>next mutually short destruction, the next strategic deterrence to keep

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<v Speaker 1>these countries from attacking us, wins the next Nobel Peace price. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>um so on the timing of this story coming out,

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<v Speaker 1>Iran has been in the news a lot. The Biden

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<v Speaker 1>administration and UH leadership in Iran have been going back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth, have you got to do this? Well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna do this, you know, negotiating and they said

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<v Speaker 1>they won't even sit down with us, and they said

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<v Speaker 1>you're not allowed to have surprise inspections anymore. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to keep enriching uranium, all these things. In any

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<v Speaker 1>chance that we wanted this story to come out to

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<v Speaker 1>help move public opinion towards these are bad guys who

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<v Speaker 1>might have to attack. Well, I don't see attacking them

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<v Speaker 1>again either because we don't have any real resources there.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to deploy. You know, everyone's gone. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>those days are over of trying to deduce anything on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground there. We can fight them from the air

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<v Speaker 1>and drone strikes and things, but that those days are over.

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<v Speaker 1>If anything, we're leaving out of a rock faster than

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<v Speaker 1>we are before and we've got off ramp to Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, those troops are nowhere in the neighborhood either.

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<v Speaker 1>So um no, I don't know what's going on. The

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<v Speaker 1>administration is trying to resuscitate this relationship with Iran just

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<v Speaker 1>because Donald Trump of what he did. So it's it's dumb,

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<v Speaker 1>it's full hardy. The bottom line is we need to

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<v Speaker 1>be all out of the Middle East unless we have

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<v Speaker 1>unless we come back with a clear strategy as to

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<v Speaker 1>how we want to deal with it. It's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>tinder box that will blow up. But the bottom line is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>unless we're gonna come up with some other strategy. From

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<v Speaker 1>the military perspective, I just we're just wasting our time.

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<v Speaker 1>Great stuff. Military analyst Major Mike Lions. Mike, it's always enlightening.

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<v Speaker 1>We sure appreciate at the time. So tinder box, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to blow up, he says, Yeah. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>it reminds me of a little bit is the first

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<v Speaker 1>attack on the World Trade Center in I think it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and we didn't really respond and we didn't pay much

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<v Speaker 1>attention to it and kind of acted like and then

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<v Speaker 1>years later you get a more significant attack. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like this is kind of one of those. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we sent the message to another group of bad guys

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<v Speaker 1>of you can come at us pretty hard, and we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really pay attention, we don't respond, and we don't

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<v Speaker 1>really do much. I like Mike's rule of ten to one.

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<v Speaker 1>You hit us with one, we're gonna hit you with ten.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to hit us with two, we got twenty

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<v Speaker 1>for you. How long you want to keep this going?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that is deterrence. And but Pompeo Trump the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that they were you know, lily livered or or

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<v Speaker 1>unwilling to deliver a response that doesn't ring true to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So so so Mike Lines doesn't think Trump got the

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<v Speaker 1>full story or grasp what was going on. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>he was suggesting. Yeah, Now, Sean Sean says, the the

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<v Speaker 1>anti Trump version of this is that the Pentagon did

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<v Speaker 1>not want Trump involved in something that could lead to

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<v Speaker 1>a war with him as president, so they didn't tell

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<v Speaker 1>him what happened because they were afraid of how it react.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike seemed to be suggesting, Yeah, that was perhaps part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Um although Trump, you know, his whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>was not getting involved in these Middle Eastern countries. That

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<v Speaker 1>was his whole thing. I mean, that's what he ran on,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he talked about all the time. So his

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<v Speaker 1>his default setting is to not get involved in these things. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and with all due respect to the anti Trump media,

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<v Speaker 1>which is everywhere all the time, it's also possible. They said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a couple of choices. Number One, we could

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<v Speaker 1>retaliate with means we are going to be fighting Iran

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<v Speaker 1>on and off in various ways for a very very

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<v Speaker 1>long time. You will be the war president in the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East. And he said, and it's possibly. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's see what happens next. We'll hold back

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<v Speaker 1>for now to wrap this up now, unless you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it more later. Do you see Tucker

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<v Speaker 1>last night? So his whole first segment was about how

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<v Speaker 1>he's he just thinks it's awful that Biden sending the

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<v Speaker 1>missiles into um, you know, against Iranian militias fought back

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<v Speaker 1>at all. He just thinks that's terrible, that we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be involved in the Middle East at all. China is

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<v Speaker 1>the only threat in the world. I couldn't figure out

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<v Speaker 1>where he was going until he got to this, but

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of see this, you know, the the Obama administration.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're going back. Three presidents wanted to pivot away

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<v Speaker 1>from the Middle East to China. Why why are we

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<v Speaker 1>Why are we getting sucked into a rack and Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 1>and Syrian these various places. None of those are going

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<v Speaker 1>to change our way of life or or in America.

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<v Speaker 1>China actually could, and that's their goal, and they could,

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<v Speaker 1>they could actually pull it off. So why isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>are so focused? I just think we're still operating under

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<v Speaker 1>the assumption that we broke irack, so we bought it.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to help defend I think we say sorry

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<v Speaker 1>about that, are bad, and move on. Take full responsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>I take full responsibility. Okay, I don't know. I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>The most interesting thing is Mikelines seems to be as

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<v Speaker 1>confused about this as anybody else, and he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of connections and a lot of history of understanding

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<v Speaker 1>the way the world works. Well, anyone a bronze star

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<v Speaker 1>right there, so you know, is the area fascinating? Text

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