1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Really reveally. 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 2: Look at us now tempted. 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: Jesus. Oh do you want about. 4 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: Using It's time to bank? Oh yeah, the jemaiahv era 5 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: is upon us. Welcome on into Morning Combat. Here to 6 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 2: breakdown all things UFC three nineteen on this Monday, August eighteenth, 7 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: of the twenty five's Brian Campbell from c T fame 8 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: and of course from the nation's capital. Who's ready to 9 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: join the National garden turn on his own people. 10 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: It's Luke Thomas, my. 11 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: Own I support my own people, but I'm ready to 12 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: turn on everybody else. 13 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, shout out to that. Just the same. We're 14 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: gonna have a great show for you today, not only recapping, 15 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: of course, what went down in the Windy City on Saturday. 16 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: It's the middleweight title changed hands. Aaron Pico got killed, not. 17 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: Exactly Hendo who No, not exactly exactly. I mean Pico 18 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: tried for that finish, but. 19 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: Man, oh my god, protest the cigarettes are back in style. Also, 20 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: we'll look back at twenty year old heavyweights Moses Atama's 21 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: dismantling of Dillion White in one round doing Holy shit. 22 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: Dude, did he did? He did? Dillion White? I'm serious 23 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: question did he land a punch? 24 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: Maybe a jab? I didn't, I mean I didn't see 25 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: really anything of significance. And then we'll get into that 26 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: and more. Also, we'll take your dms, we'll go through 27 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: my ship to check for colonels and yeah, we're gonna 28 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: have a good time today. So why don't you please 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: like and subscribe to what's going on here at the 30 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: M two the K. Those are our social handles. You 31 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: can check out our extended personal YouTube channels as well, 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: including that of our producer, director and co host of 33 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: the Main Card Minute. Where would we be lt without 34 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: that horned assceed you know what I mean, without that 35 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: man who just lusted after them fine American women to 36 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: produce this man, Luke Nocida. Okay, that was probably too 37 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: a little too far. 38 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a little too much, guys, but a 39 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: great time. You guys joined me for prop Quiz this week. 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 4: Got a lot of good feedback on it. If anyone 41 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 4: hasn't seen it, yeah. 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: You know, but don't forget who's the defending champion? Stop? 43 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: Stop the steal is what I have to say. 44 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: Stop Are you going to jan sixth? 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: The next episode? Ty's your girlfriend? I know you don't know. 46 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: She's great, you know. 47 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 2: All Long Island. Look, thank you for joining us today. 48 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: Just one word to describe what we saw in. 49 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: That main event, please domination. There you go, that's one. 50 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'm so fired up to talk about that. Also, 51 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: we have a great line of merchandise that is available 52 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: for you at Morning Combat Dot Shop, the August exclusives. 53 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: There are a few left, not many though, We're down 54 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: to two autograph posters for our super wash Dad and 55 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: check Out as well from Average Joe Art, the MK 56 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: Beavis and butt Head limited August exclusive, the Vaping is 57 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: for Closers shirt. 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I mean, I mean, did 66 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: you like if there's one Lilith Fair Act that you 67 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: had to publicly vouch for, Like, which which one is it? 68 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: I mean I'm not sure who Jewel? 69 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: Come on? 70 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, I mean McGee like McLachlan and the Sarah, 71 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: I mean the Angel. Now I'm good on that. 72 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: I mean so, I mean, look, I was ready to 73 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: build a mystery with her. There was a point where 74 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: I was in But I'm just saying in general. 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: Who was the who was the one who didn't shave 76 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: her pits? Who had the mummers dance? What was her name? 77 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. We both indigo girls, I don't know. 78 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was my scene overall, but 79 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: I watched a lot of MTV content surrounding it. Luke, 80 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: did you have a nice weekend or was your weekend 81 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: dominated by the fights? 82 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: Dominated by the fights? But I had a nice weekend. 83 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: We had some fun with the Tuchster, went to the 84 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: Arlington Fair. It was a good time. Nice took her. 85 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: I saw my friend bought a house and moved in, 86 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: and I did a housewarming or went to his housewarming party. 87 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: What do you bring for that? 88 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: To bring wine? Yeah, some wine and some cheese. I 89 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: don't know if anybody had any of it except me? 90 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: But did you cut any silently as you walked through 91 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: their kitchen? 92 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: Did I cut any silently? 93 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: The first thing I did after I walking was took 94 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: a dump in his house, had to christen that boat. 95 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: Is that how a man marks his territory? On the 96 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: twenty five's there we go. 97 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: I'm not running the fan either, I'm letting that one. 98 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: No courtesy flash Cranberry. 99 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: I'd lord that zombie ass. Wow. 100 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 5: Uh. 101 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: By the way, I've got my death liquid here today. 102 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah you're I mean, do you lose What do you 103 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: think you lose from drinking that? A day? 104 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: At least a day off your life. This is the 105 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: Barry power bomb. 106 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: Which I guess is a WWE infused are Co promoted. 107 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: It tastes like the backside of BC's nutsack. 108 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: It is come drink my payloads right there. 109 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 2: It's called C four. It'll kill you. Also, Luke, yesterday, 110 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: I was in so Bad. I was in the city, 111 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: so I went to the Imax theater and saw the 112 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: Grateful Dead movie that nineteen seventy four going Away concert. 113 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: I bet you were sober as shit. 114 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: Huh, it's funny enough. My ticket was for seat number eight. 115 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: It was apropos, but I will tell you. 116 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: That wow wow wow. Why were you in the city? 117 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: That was that? 118 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: No? 119 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: I worked in Stanford Saturday. Oh right, covering at the 120 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: SBA Sports Studio. So I have to assume that UFC 121 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: is going to be my life. 122 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: Moving seems that way. It seems that there's a direction. 123 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: That it's headed. So we'll see where that takes us. 124 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: Let's take us into the recap of this show, and 125 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: let's get into the first topic right now. Hey, UFC 126 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: three nineteen in Chicagy didn't give us the fight of 127 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: the year like we might have thought in the fantastic 128 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: on paper matchup for the middleweight Championship that on the 129 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: way out we talked about Chimaia's dominance. There's also this 130 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: growing minority of man. How boring was that. We'll get 131 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: into all that stuff, but first and foremost, Tom's chamayav 132 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: controlled and physically dominated Drecis Duplessy en route to unanimous 133 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 2: decision fifty to forty four on all three judges scorecards. 134 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: Round three, a ten eight round as he opened up 135 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: a cut over the eye of DDP. I don't know 136 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: if I've seen someone dominated exactly like this this thoroughly 137 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 2: in a title fight. You know, we've seen quick knockouts, 138 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: but this was a different story. Luke, How impressive or 139 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: how impressed should we be by this complete dismantling in 140 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 2: of a pound for pound top fiver who was nine 141 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: to zero in the UFC and just being four straight 142 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 2: current former champions. 143 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: I think, if you lose this bad, I don't know 144 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: if you should still be in the top ten pound 145 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 3: for pound can be hot. Old Crawford Spence bit right, well, 146 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 3: I mean if he lost fifty forty four across the board, 147 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 3: should you really be pound for pound If you're losing 148 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: fifty forty like, no one should be able to beat you. 149 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: I dropped him from four to ten, No five to ten, 150 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: number five to ten, Okay, because I did the same 151 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: thing with pereyra I'm like, look at the run they had. 152 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: This was a bad performance. Maybe now for prayer we go, well, 153 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: he was kind of more hurt. But you don't take 154 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: that excuse me. 155 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I just say it's worth thinking about whether 156 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: you can lose like this and maintain pound for pound status. 157 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 3: It's a debate, but it's certainly open to question. I 158 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: have mixed feelings about this performance. 159 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: You didn't enjoy it. I'm not saying the fight was 160 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: traditionally entertaining it. I'm not standing up for it in 161 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: that regard. Because I understand why people would hate this, 162 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: but there was some Floyd Mayweather brilliant performances too, where 163 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: you could say it didn't light up the airwaves, but man, 164 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: that was fun to watch. How he just systematically destroyed 165 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: that other guy. 166 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: I don't really agree. 167 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: I mean, everyone's going to be different, and everyone's going 168 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: to have a different feeling about what mattered to them, 169 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: or what they cared about or what stood out. Like 170 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: I'm one of these guys where like, if you enjoyed it, cool, 171 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: I don't really have an issue with that. 172 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy. 173 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: But I've seen a lot of lecturing, including from fighters 174 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: who are just completely fucking wrong, saying that if you 175 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: didn't like this performance, and if you didn't like the grappling, 176 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: you're a casual. 177 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't disagree more. 178 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: I think that's completely insane and off base. Let's sort 179 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: of unpack what happened here. First of all, it wasn't 180 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: there was a mean, ZIPPYHNDO who would of this one? 181 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: So that one got you know, it's not. 182 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: Quite as bad, But whose fault is that? Is it 183 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: more of the guy doing the mauling? 184 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: The majority of the fault goes to DDP. 185 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: And his coach. Yes, after four rounds they have no answers, 186 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: open mouth, kiss each other, do something to try to 187 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: spice up the. 188 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: Bedroom, right, I mean, you just have to take risks, 189 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: you know, at that points risky. The point I would 190 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: I would make is clearly him. The reason why I 191 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: thought this fight could go bananas is not that you 192 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: did not think that Hamzat was better in the grappling department, 193 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: like you kind of took that as a given. But 194 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: the question was could DDP have enough defensive grappling and 195 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: then just you know, assertiveness to the course of about 196 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: to have these bursts of offense and life and like 197 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: what could that do to the course. 198 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 2: Of stay alive long enough to see if this man 199 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: has that championship round guesting. 200 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: A few of these things that we were looking for. 201 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: And he was so deficient in the grappling that we 202 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 3: really never got out of first gear. 203 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: That was the issue. Offensively, This fight stayed in first 204 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: gear the entire time. The majority of the blame has 205 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: to go on DDP. His coach even said that they 206 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: were not prepared for the mounted crucifix, to which I 207 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: have to say, well, somebody didn't watch tape because at 208 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: Brave eighteen in November of twenty eighteen against Marco Kissich, 209 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: he went hamsat Chamaiah went exactly into mounted crucifix. You 210 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: had to have known that this was at least partly 211 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: something that he would. 212 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: Also that sounds so lame to be, like, well, if 213 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: it wasn't for this one move, we would have won. 214 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: So you're talking about Dennis's interview on submission, Yeah, I 215 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: think we should check it out. It almost completely exposes 216 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: that guy without him realizing it. 217 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: He doesn't seem to realize how bad he comes off, 218 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: but he comes off. 219 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: Back blaming the fans, aiming the referee. I mean, I 220 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: thought it was almost gratuitous how they stood that fight 221 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: up in round five and gave I disagree. 222 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: I thought the standard r was a fantastic I. 223 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: Guess I'd have to rewatch them at the uppruter link. 224 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: You did, but you wouldn't tell me in real time. 225 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: You weren't like, wait, no, no, I was waiting for it. 226 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: I thought he could have stood him up earlier. Actually interesting, 227 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: But the one is this, Clearly the majority of the 228 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 3: blame goes to DDP for being unable to extricate himself 229 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: from seemingly anything, being on his back, being on his base, 230 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: standing leaning up against the fence, one knee, leaning up 231 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: against the fence. He had no ability to or very 232 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: little anyway to remove himself from the situations that he 233 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: was in. His defensive grappling got audited. What I think 234 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: is kind of interesting about that BC is if this 235 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 3: was an interesting moment for all the other contenders, because 236 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: now you see all the positions that DDP got stuck in, 237 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: you also have to have an answer for all of 238 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 3: them too, exactly otherwise you're going to be back there 239 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 3: as well. So it was an interesting revelation. 240 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: But I just was finally tamia of being forced to 241 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: show us a little bit more full depth of his game. 242 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: Maybe not the full, but a lot more than we knew. 243 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 3: But I have a big problem with the way Tamaiah 244 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: fought this fight, and I'm sorry that I do. He 245 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: made a concerted strategic decision. Okay, the strategic decision that 246 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: he made was he was going to keep chest to 247 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: chest or chest to back content excuse me, connection, I 248 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 3: should say, at basically all times. And there's a good 249 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: reason for that. It's actually a very smart play. The 250 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 3: play is if you can maintain these kinds of connections, 251 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: it makes it vastly more difficult for the man underneath 252 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: to get out of that right it is it is 253 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 3: literally it is a way to put pressure and lay 254 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: weight on top so that they are stuck in whatever position, 255 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: either hands to the mat or back to the mat, 256 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: whatever is being exposed in that moment. If you go 257 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: back and you watch, there's almost no place when as 258 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 3: long as they're touching one another. And if tremaievs in 259 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: a dominant position where there is distance between his chest 260 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: and the back or chest of DDP. But the problem 261 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: with that game plan is that that is maximally designed 262 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 3: to maintain positional control, which is why it worked so well. 263 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: But would you would would you say he looked for 264 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: a submission when it was there? Are you saying this 265 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: was more purposeful to basically be like, if you're not 266 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: going to change this, we're going to go the distance? 267 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: Just like what I am saying is, if you're going 268 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: to fight a game plan where you are that aggressively 269 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 3: pursuing chest to chest and chest to back connection, you 270 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: are making a choice to severely limit any kind of 271 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 3: meaningful ground and pound, and you are making a choice 272 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: to severely limit what kinds of submission opportunities are available 273 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: to you. He waived on a bunch of different things 274 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: that were very accessible that he could have gone to 275 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: because he was more prioritizing the pancaking control. So I 276 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 3: have plenty of appreciation for this skill it took to 277 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: do that kind of a thing. But dude, it's not 278 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 3: difficult to imagine put your chest on the ground and 279 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: try and punch around you. There's nothing you can really do. 280 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 3: You have to create posture if you want to pass. 281 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: For example, Jamaiah got stood up in the fifth When 282 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 3: he got stood up in the fifth BC, he had 283 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 3: chest to chess contact on DDP. Ddp's guard is open, 284 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 3: and Shamiah has both knees on the ground. Ladies and gentlemen, 285 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: you cannot pass an MMA with both knees on the ground, 286 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: and you cannot ground and pound in MMA making chest 287 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: to chess contact. So what is your offense from there? 288 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: You made a choice to have minimal offense in favor 289 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: of maximum positional control and the audacity, the fucking audacity 290 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: of people out there, fighters and media alike. 291 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: Be like, if you don't like this. You're a casual. No, 292 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: you're a fucking casual. 293 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 3: I feel like this drives you forgetting me asking me 294 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: to jack off to twenty one minute of positional control. 295 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: I understand it is skillful and I don't mind it, 296 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: but make the argument where it is that is a 297 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: choice to minimize your offense in an offense first sport. 298 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: I don't have to think that's awesome. You're fucking wrong. 299 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: Period, and these people live inside of you. 300 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: It drives me. 301 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: I just can't stand the currency that we give terrible 302 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: arguments because certain people from authority are just declaring that 303 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: this is how it is. 304 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: No, the fuck it isn't a right. 305 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: No, the fucking pushback a little, you would say, or 306 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: maybe you wouldn't. He went for it in round three, 307 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: getting the ten eight. While there were times in the 308 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: Crucifix where it's just dabbing the side of the head 309 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: for volume, that seemed to be a time where he 310 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: prioritized trying to get some elbows in. He didn't cut him. Okay, 311 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: maybe you didn't see that consistently in that want to 312 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: end it, But what if he didn't know the true 313 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: answers to the to the gas tank issue and I 314 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: had some people DM me even before the fight and 315 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: Saturday and be like, you guys are missing that he 316 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: fixed his nose and all that's going to be behind 317 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: GDP or Tamaia. I don't even know if that's the case. 318 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: All I know is you truly don't know if you 319 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: have that five ron stand until you're in a crazy fight. 320 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: What if this was more about that basically. 321 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: So again, so if you're going to make the choice 322 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: to maintain those kinds of forms of connection, it doesn't 323 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: mean that there's no chance you could get something in 324 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: the submission department, or that there's some kind of errant 325 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: shot might not cut him with an elbow from a 326 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: short distance. For example, Matt Hughes used to get mounted 327 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: crucifix and his elbows in that position were so devastating 328 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: they would call the fight from there. So he was 329 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: able to maintain positional control with dominant ground and pound. 330 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: But again, it's gonna it's not an either or question, BC, 331 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: It's a question of you know, it's just a range 332 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: of possibility of what you're limiting to your point in 333 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 3: that third round, was he opening up a little bit 334 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: more sure and look at the results. I think that 335 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: they spoke for themselves. He could have done more offensively 336 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: and simply chose not to. Another point you raised about 337 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: the cardio, to me is actually very interesting. Again, if 338 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: you want to make the argument he was being diligent 339 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: and patient about his offense, then make that argument, But 340 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: don't make the argument that that is also simultaneously something 341 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 3: that's not offensively muted. 342 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: No, it is like you have to make that argument. 343 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: You're right if he did this three or four more 344 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: times in a row, then it would be a totally 345 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: different conversation about is there one dominant style that's making 346 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: the sport boring? You know, and people already doing that 347 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: of course, and on my Twitter that like see we've 348 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: got too many you know, Chechin and Georgian guys. I'm 349 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: foundationally of the other belief of like try and stop it. 350 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: I know that if he did this three, four or 351 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: five more times in a row, he would kill his marketability. 352 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: You can only be so popular like that. But I'm 353 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: just talking about from the one time, even though we 354 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: didn't get the fight of the Year Canada, this back 355 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: and forth action fight, I'm still more of the I 356 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: appreciate this shit about what he just did and showed 357 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: us he's got twelve finishes and fifteen wins, so we 358 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: know what his intentions are in fights. I looked at 359 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: this as a little bit like when he fought Gilbert Burns, 360 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: and I thought, actually thought he lost that fight. But 361 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: I thought he unnecessarily was willing to try to show 362 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: the world that I'm not just a wrestler. I got 363 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 2: a backbone, like I'll fight to the death too, like 364 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 2: I am that guy. He showed that he passed that test. 365 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: I almost felt like this was the opposite, like he 366 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: wanted to show the world now that I'm fully healthy, 367 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: I'm not fighting once a year for three out of 368 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: four years, I don't have gas tank issues. I'm ready. 369 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: This is what I can do to everybody in this division. 370 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: So look, if he fights his way every time, we're 371 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 2: gonna have a problem where he's not maximizing his strengths completely. 372 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: He's killing his potential crossover stardom. I mean, do you 373 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: hear the pops before the fight, show you the momentum 374 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: he's on and how badly people want this guy to 375 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: be for real. I believe he'll go for the finish 376 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 2: more in these next fights. But I think he was 377 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: entering a five round fight knowing it could be a 378 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: war against a guy whose gas tank has never failed him, 379 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 2: and he basically said, let me take that strength, that 380 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: thing that he has over me. Let me take it 381 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: away completely by putting the onus on him. I'm gonna 382 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: gas him out. I'm gonna constantly be on top of 383 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: him anywhere he's gonna go, I'm gonna cut it off, 384 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna make him force a type of rally 385 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: that's going to leave him open to make a big 386 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: mistake him. 387 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: One on positional control. We're just saying the same. 388 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 2: That is also, to me, was fascinating as shit to watch, 389 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I was fascinated by dom. 390 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: I mean remember when Justin get You was on our 391 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: show and said, if one guy can hold you down, 392 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: then that means too care. 393 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't I don't understand these 394 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: arguments from people where it's like, hey, we're not going 395 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 3: to count takedowns as offense and ma let me unless 396 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 3: you slam them, but we're not going to count take 397 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: it on in mma because the reward for the takedown is, well, 398 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 3: now you've got the fight on the floor. Because you 399 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 3: wanted it there. What is the reward for achieving a 400 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: control position from which you can do nothing else? 401 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: This is it? 402 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 3: It's just more of the control position, Like there's a 403 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 3: value to that, and I acknowledge it. And it's hard 404 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: like can everybody do what Hamzad did if they choose 405 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 3: to be maintain those same kinds of connection. No, Hamzad 406 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 3: is very very good. But to your point, I think 407 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: it's also we should say this, this could be one 408 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: of those scenarios BC where hey, listen, if Hamza loses 409 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 3: this fight, he's one of the biggest what ifs in 410 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 3: MMA history. At that point, you know, there might have 411 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: been a lot of pressure on him, and so he 412 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 3: chose to fight in a way where this was a 413 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: safer approach to get the dub on the en route 414 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: to twenty five minutes. 415 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 2: Yep. 416 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: But that doesn't make people being like I didn't necessarily 417 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: love a safe approach. 418 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: From the guy for being wrong. 419 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 3: Nor is it us saying necessarily to the point you raise, hey, listen, 420 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: he might go out there against let's make something up, lady, 421 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: are and just really open up on him on the 422 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 3: ground here. Absolutely, what I'm saying is in this fight. 423 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 3: He thought he made a concerted choice to be offensively conservative. 424 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: That's just all. 425 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: Things at once. I think it was both impressive. I 426 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: think it was also to what you're saying, taking a 427 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: put off the gas a little bit, where maybe he 428 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: could have taken a little bit more chances and got 429 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: the finish. I think he was also part of him 430 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: was that artistry of I want to show you now 431 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: that I'm finally here, exactly what is possible. I can 432 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: completely shut down your game now, Luke. 433 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he has to shut down his in the process. 434 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: I totally understand that, and not every fight is going 435 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: to look like that. Because as much as this was 436 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 2: super impressive from Chamaiyev, it was also disappointing to hear 437 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 2: to see ddp's performance, to hear from the coach afterwards 438 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: on Submission Radio and see that they had lack of answers. 439 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: Is there any potential? Is this one performance that people 440 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: were not entertained by. I don't think it's going to 441 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: be the future, But do you think there's anything to 442 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 2: these casual Twitter arguments of like we don't have any 443 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: American champions and more and more we're seeing dominant for 444 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 2: foreign wrestling dominance. I don't believe that. I think it's 445 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: cyclical and it's gonna come around. 446 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 3: I think the reality is two things are happening. I 447 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 3: honestly don't think it matters that Chamaiev is not American. 448 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: I think people can really get again. He might go 449 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: back in his next fight to opening up. And I 450 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 3: rewatched some of his other fights, like against the Lead 451 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 3: or even Robert Whitaker. He's much more open. So, like 452 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 3: we know he can do it. I'm saying he chose 453 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 3: not to. But to your point, I think he can 454 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: still be a big star in this market, especially now 455 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 3: that he can get here is a big part of it. 456 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: I don't really believe that. 457 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: But at the same time, what people are noticing, they're 458 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: blaming this on other people. But two things are happening 459 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,239 Speaker 3: at once. There's this ascendency of guys from you know 460 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: that the Caucus, the Caucus's mountains in that region where 461 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: they're all really being able to be great and deliver. 462 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: And there's also, independent of that a decline in American MMA. 463 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: That's just the reality. 464 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: And so and we've talked about the decline in American 465 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: amateur wrestling stars because of Nil and all that. 466 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: There's just there's just a lot less of these elite 467 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 3: guys coming over and I think make a ton of money, 468 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 3: and I think it's just I think it's just. 469 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: You're seeing both the people like, oh, it's it's their fault. 470 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: It's not their fault. 471 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 3: It's just a bunch of things are happening once and 472 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: it kind of looks bad for America in that way. 473 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: Well, part of me is like, Okay, I want to 474 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: see now who can stop this, and we'll get into 475 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: that first. Let's show some reaction here. This first being 476 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: UFC President Dana White reacting in the post fight pressre 477 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: to Hamzat's dominantly. 478 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 6: Do you see before this fight that being the possible 479 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 6: way it was going to play out? 480 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: No? 481 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 7: Uh, the lead up to this fight, I said, I 482 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 7: bet the main event is fight of the night. Didn't 483 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 7: see that coming, but not shocked either. I mean, you 484 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 7: go in and dominate the way that he dominated, if 485 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 7: you can do it the first round one like they're 486 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 7: gonna do it the second and throughout. 487 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: The rest of the fight. 488 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 6: There was a time, and it was in the promos 489 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 6: leading up to this fight, you said hums Up was special, 490 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 6: one of the most special guys you've ever seen. Do 491 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 6: you think he's lived up to that yet or does 492 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 6: he still have a little ways to go, because he's 493 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 6: been a bit more inactive since. 494 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 7: The night for you know, when we were on Fight Island, 495 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 7: he said, I want to fight next Saturday. Ever since then, 496 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 7: the guy's been a rocket ship and obviously is very 497 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 7: popular too. 498 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: People love him. 499 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 7: Fighting back here in the United States, and obviously Chicago 500 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 7: loved him too. 501 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: And what did you think of Ddp's performance? 502 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 6: Right, obviously he was out matched in the wrestling, never 503 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 6: gave up though, even in the last round he started 504 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 6: landing his own shots. What did you make of DDP 505 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 6: and his toughness to survive five rounds? 506 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, first of all, I had every round 507 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 7: of ten eight, maybe except for the last round, but 508 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 7: you know, to be in the position that he was 509 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 7: in and the crew crucifix and just getting dominated on 510 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 7: the ground and punched in the face and elbowed, and 511 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 7: it's a very frustrating place to be. 512 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: And I thought he. 513 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 7: Handled it well and came out every round, you know, 514 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 7: trying to to get in the fight and try to win. 515 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, on the crucifix, it's a weird one. Right, they're 516 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 6: landing strikes. He's landing like two hundred punches around, but 517 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 6: they're not quite hard enough to. 518 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: H Dana would go on to speak a little bit 519 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: more on that fight. Yeah, as long as it's sort 520 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: of a one off. I don't think this kills the 521 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: momentum he's built so aggressively and so fast. If you 522 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 2: take out a John Jones and econom McGregor, who are 523 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: sporadic and only have a you know, one or none 524 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: left each and them probably when you look at their 525 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: star list right now, their valuable assets. To PORI I 526 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: feel like is is still the most powerful, the most valuable, 527 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: even if others have been more established longer, like a 528 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 2: ma Machev who got the hoobie brub but Hamzak catapults 529 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: toward the towards the top of that list. Suddenly, is 530 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 2: he like number two in your eyes? 531 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 3: I would not put him ahead of Morob. I certainly 532 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: wouldn't put him ahead of Ilia. 533 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: Really because he's far more charismatic in headline creating than Morob. 534 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: Poetson too. 535 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: We gotta I mean Poeton certainly, you know, with a 536 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: bounce back, no. 537 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 1: Question, I'm not sure. I guess I don't understand the crow. 538 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 2: Here's the most valuable brand as a promotional entity, as 539 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 2: a promotionalth not just driving pay per view bys, but 540 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: actually like building momentum people follow. 541 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: He's up there. 542 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's top three certainly among active fighters. I don't 543 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 3: really count John O'Connor in that way. Yeah, he's top 544 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 3: three for sure, but I don't I do think that. Listen, 545 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 3: people are gonna buy his next pay per view more 546 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 3: than who bought this one, or you know whatever. The 547 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: metric ends up being one people will watch. Let's say 548 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 3: it's a better way to put it. And again, he 549 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: could return to form. But I don't think this this 550 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 3: was this was this was just important in crossing the threshold. 551 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 3: It was just important crossing the championship threshold. This is 552 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: not one I don't think that's necessarily going to stand 553 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 3: the test of time. Yes, in part because I think 554 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 3: some of the other middleweight contenders are going to be 555 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: a little bit more forceful about resistance. 556 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: Well, him not gassing out. Him doing this in such 557 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 2: question about thorrough detail, I think cancels the questions that 558 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: I most had about him coming in. So that's very 559 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: good that we got that question. But I don't know 560 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 2: about him staying consistent and healthy and being this guy 561 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 2: needs to start fighting three times a year like he 562 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: needs to agree with him, he's gonna have the rocket 563 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: ship behind him. He needs to be able to get 564 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: in there. And that's my biggest hope. 565 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 3: For my question is this it's and I'm listen to 566 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: what I am saying. I am asserting a question. I 567 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 3: am not asserting an answer. Some things I feel like 568 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 3: I have an answer for this one I don't, which 569 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: is clearly, apportioning his offense in the way that he 570 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: did was smart for a twenty five minute fight, and 571 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: the fact that he was able to maintain discipline about 572 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 3: that only speaks good of him. Yeah, However, is there 573 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 3: a question that if he has to disperse his offense 574 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 3: and manage his resources this way, he becomes a lot 575 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: less dangerous. 576 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 2: And that's something that he has to prove to us 577 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 2: through evolution, that he can start chipping away at that gap. 578 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 2: And I don't think that gap as monster. I mean that, 579 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: whether you thought him or Gilbert Burns want to grant it, 580 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 2: that was welterweight. But same thing with Camorrow. They were 581 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 2: very even competitive fights where you saw a lot to 582 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: love and you saw some things that you questioned. You know, 583 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 2: for usman fight, it was him sort of you know, 584 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: kind of not giving up the round, but like trying 585 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 2: to stay up with that same level of stamina he was. 586 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: He was gassing and stalling and not at that same force. 587 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: He showed at least in this fight that the five 588 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: round thing probably won't be an issue. But again, if 589 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: he's in a brawl, we're going to see a lot 590 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 2: more of who he actually is. But now it's up 591 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: to somebody to get him into that brawl. So before 592 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: we talk exactly about who's next for him, I just 593 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: wanted to close the book on DDP. This has the 594 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: potential to be demoralizing, or you can simply say, all right, 595 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: that's a hole in my game. I've got to level 596 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 2: it up. Can he level it up and get right 597 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 2: back in and stay in contention and be one to 598 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: two wins away from a title shot again to try 599 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: to right that wrong, no matter who's you know, who's 600 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: on the throne at that moment. 601 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. I mean, I don't 602 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: think there's a lot of demand for rematch. That's not 603 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 3: what you're saying. You're saying one to two. 604 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: Here's the question you have to ask yourself, how far. 605 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 3: Behind is DDP in the wrestling? And of course the 606 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: answer is not that you have to get him equal 607 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 3: with hams On. I don't know if there's enough time 608 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 3: in their lives for them to do that. The question 609 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 3: you have to ask yourself is does he have enough 610 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: time and enough ability to you know, shut down Let's 611 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 3: say half the takedowns. So he got twelve on hums 612 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 3: On DDP he only gets six in a five round fight, 613 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 3: and that that's six difference is enough to change his 614 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: competitive fortunes. 615 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that. Yeah, I don't 616 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: know the answer to that. 617 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: I think that I will say this, get the gap 618 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: between them in grappling skill is enormous. It is enormous. 619 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 3: This is not a simple fix, which is what another 620 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 3: reason why his coach being get out of there is, Oh, 621 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 3: I know exactly what we have to work on. Well, yeah, 622 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: because your guy got fucking audited, Like everybody. 623 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: Knows what he has to work on. I forget. 624 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: Can you look at up for us? It's on Submission 625 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 3: Radio's YouTube channel. Shouts to h to Dennis. 626 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's damaging. But you guys, you got 627 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: to bounce back in a big way. You got to 628 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: show us. 629 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like I don't think he's gonna 630 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 3: beat other good middleweight. It's like, for sure I do, 631 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: but it's a big fucking difference. 632 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: His name is Moore and Visser. They got weird names 633 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: in South Africa, don't they. 634 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 2: I mean that, I don't. I don't think he has 635 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: to change camps and that's going to be the fix. 636 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: But they all got to look in the mirror. 637 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, you got shown up in a big way. 638 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: You couldn't do anything. I mean literally, they could do nothing. 639 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: Well, that's why I hate when people do the boring 640 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 2: thing because and I don't hate it from the standpoint 641 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: of you can't appreciate it if you think it's boring, 642 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: like I'm not. I'm just doing it from the like, 643 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: don't take away from what how brilliant that actually is. He? 644 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: I mean that dude had this dude was the championship 645 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: with Lee pound for pound breakout star and he's like I. 646 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: Say, I said, if you told RDR to do exactly 647 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 3: what HAMSA did, if you told Fluffy Fluffy could get closer, 648 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: but even that, I don't think they could pull off 649 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 3: what Hamza did. What he did was skillful. I just 650 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 3: feel like it's not unfair to say he made a 651 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: choice to give up on the most important kinds of 652 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: offense that are available. And I'm not a dickhead for 653 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: noticing that. 654 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: All Right, Who's next for Hamzad opens up a big 655 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: wad because we've got a lot of names. You certainly 656 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: have Rnier de Ritter, who's won four UFC fights in 657 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: like six months since joining and is on fire and 658 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: getting better somehow every time. Anthony Fluffy Hernandez maybe more 659 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: of a dark horse, but that shut down performance of 660 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: Roman Deliedze catapulted him up. The bigger one may be 661 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: the September number one contender about headlining a fight Night 662 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: card between nassardin Imavov and Kyle Bohalio. Let's hear from 663 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: the new champ regarding how quickly you come back when 664 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: and who and all that, because I can't wait to 665 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: see who it is. I got opinions about all of them. 666 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 8: But here's Hamsa, do you still want to turn around 667 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 8: and fight? And Abbi Dabby. 668 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 9: We'll see what they says I'm ready overly, so no 669 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 9: injursh thanks ed. 670 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 8: Who do you think is the most deserving contender to 671 00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 8: challenge you for that belt? 672 00:29:59,600 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: First? 673 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 9: I don't care about these things, but I just where 674 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 9: they use the money. I fight anyone. 675 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 8: He had said all fight he wants to turn around 676 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 8: and fight in Abu Dhabi? Is that something you would 677 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 8: consider or do you feel like with the heavyweight title 678 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 8: already on that card like he made. 679 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 7: I just had a kid fight Tuesday and wanted to 680 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 7: turn around and come here, I would Abu Dhabi, I 681 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 7: would definitely consider. 682 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean so many great potential contenders right now. 683 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 8: Right we have the great fluffy win Renar to Ritter, 684 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 8: we have a huge fight in Paris. Are you just 685 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 8: kind of waiting for the Paris one and then maybe 686 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 8: see the lay of the land if he could be next. 687 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 7: I'm waiting for Tuesday, But yeah, I agree with everything 688 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 7: you just said. 689 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: So, Luke, this is going to be interesting of who 690 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: gets the nod. We talked at length about this heading 691 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: into this card. We both felt Nasardine, even if it's 692 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: kind of an impressive wind, may not have the clout 693 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: or the company protection or momentum. However, you want to 694 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: phrase it, I think I would want most RDR next 695 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: the streak, he's on the fact that naturally he could 696 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: potentially could have that kryptonite on the ground, where not 697 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: only he could prevent that grappling takeover, he could provide 698 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: a counter threat with a submission that makes that look 699 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: a lot different. And then I think that striking battle 700 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: would be very interesting in that fight because r DR 701 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: is dangerous in weird ways, but maybe that gives Chamaia 702 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 2: of an opportunity to really show. 703 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: Us what he can do there. 704 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: Who do you think it will be and who do 705 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: you want at this point after this fight? 706 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: I think my most interesting question is probably going to 707 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: be Fluffy. For me, I'm gonna rank Fluffy again, not 708 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: as the number one contender exactly, but an answer to 709 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 3: your question, who has the best chance of giving CHAMAI 710 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: I would pick CHAMAIAV over anybody I think right now, yes, 711 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: But who's got a best chance? I'd say Fluffy one, 712 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: maybe Kyo two I'm less committed to that one, and 713 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: maybe r DR three. And the reason why is on 714 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: the feet. I certainly think on the feet. By the way, 715 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 3: Jamaiah is skillful, but not lights out power face. He's 716 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 3: a little basic basic powerful. He's powerful and that that counts, 717 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 3: but that's not like his ability to meaningfully set up 718 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 3: and execute without being defensively vulnerable is saw. 719 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: He's also going to develop that kick game. 720 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 3: Yes, I totally agreed. I mean he can punch. I mean, 721 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 3: there's no question you could punch. But what I would 722 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 3: say is the RDR factor is he's gonna get taken 723 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: down and he's gonna get put in bad positions. What 724 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: you have to bank on is can RDR do funky 725 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 3: jiu jitsu stuff to counter it. 726 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what I want to see. Yeah, 727 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that. 728 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 3: I feel like Hernandez has the best chance of making 729 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 3: that one real tough for CHIMAIV down the stretch. 730 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: I do feel like, you know, with the TREMAIEV when 731 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: it resets things, because you know, DDP had been on 732 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: top there for a while and for all the big 733 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: names in a row. But I wonder if this helps 734 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: Fluffy's chances because he brings, like you know, as much 735 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: as RDR is an interesting counter because of the submission game, 736 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: Bluffy's got the cardio to max the wrestling to potentially match. 737 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: I said, Max that match. I wonder if this helps 738 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: him potentially propel Like let's say Imovov versus h Well 739 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: Halio as a dud Imovov gets a somewhat disputed but 740 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: boring I must just say that weapons could you see 741 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: Fluffy getting getting pushed in because he's hot? He represents 742 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: an interesting uh you know, of the Mexican American fan base. 743 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: I mean there's a couple of things suddenly going in 744 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: his way that I wonder if the title change made 745 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: it more possible. 746 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna go with what makes the biggest splash. 747 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 3: Hernandez is a hardcore fans delight. I'm not sure how 748 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: much more in the wider But here's the problem, dude, Like, 749 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 3: are any of these middleweight guys KYO, RDR or Fluffy? Yes, 750 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 3: some stand out more than the others, but none as 751 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: exactly like? 752 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: Am I being wrong? 753 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 10: Along on Luke? 754 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 3: Which of these contenders that we're talking about here do 755 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 3: you feel like has really captured the imagination of the 756 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 3: fan base RDR. 757 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 4: It's gotta be RDR. I'm in agreeance with you, Luke. 758 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 4: I think give the shot to Fluffy Necks against SHAMAIAV 759 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 4: do DDP RDR and sorry kyomov, you guys are in 760 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 4: no man's land in time. 761 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 3: DDP RDR has the capacity for I mean, call a shoga, 762 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 3: who h and hando, but I would say Kat's in 763 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 3: a bag. 764 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be wildcats and a bag. Stuff going on 765 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 2: right there. Damn. This is interesting. Obviously, Sean Strickland is 766 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 2: kind of quasi in this mix. He's coming off of 767 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: a loss though too, in his last three both against DDP. 768 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: However, and Strickland have a fight lined up. 769 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 2: He doesn't, but I think that, like if he did 770 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: and could get a quick wines, that would be interesting 771 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: about the CHAMAIAV calendar. If he comes back October against 772 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 2: whoever they put him in, well, if he gets a 773 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 2: quick win there, I'm not saying he will, but if 774 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: he does, you could even bring him back in January 775 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: for the debut on Paramount if you wanted to, right like, 776 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 2: because you got to think you got to put somebody 777 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: in that main event who's got big time momentum and 778 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 2: has a splash. But specifically related to Strickland, we do 779 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: have homs out here responding to the back and forth 780 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 2: that they had or really just you know Strickland pumping 781 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 2: the twitter waves with calling him weak, calling him a 782 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: lot of things. Here's the New Champs reaction. 783 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 6: Okay, Sean Strickland, your old friend has been tweeting about 784 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 6: you since the fight. 785 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 2: He said that when you were. 786 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 6: In the gym together, he would actually out wrestle you, 787 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 6: be better than you and the rest thing over the 788 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 6: four rounds. 789 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 9: They just take him down many times? How can he 790 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 9: take me down? 791 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: Come on? 792 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 9: This guy beat him to able to adit a striking 793 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 9: But these guys just talked too much. So he's a 794 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 9: funny guy. He's walking with what his names. I make 795 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 9: them together. 796 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: I want them together. 797 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: I'll make them together. He'll beat them both in the 798 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 2: same night right there? 799 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: That is uh. 800 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: I kind of wish Strickland. I mean it would have 801 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: to be like a loser leaves title contention, which it 802 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: probably would be anyway, if you have a shot here, 803 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 2: But I don't want it coming off of a loss. 804 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 2: I'd love to see him have to prove it. There 805 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: are other guys that are more deserving. Let's hear Fluffy, 806 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: who was there in Chicago and was interviewed backstage afterwards 807 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: about if he could get the shot. 808 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 5: Tell me your thoughts on what we saw. 809 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 11: I thought you might have the new champion of the 810 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 11: middleweight division. 811 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 12: Congratulations for him. He's fucking pretty boring five not a lie, 812 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 12: But man, call me for the fight. I can wrestle, 813 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 12: I can do jiu jitsu, I can stop all the shit, 814 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 12: and I can shut him down. And like with my guests, 815 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 12: thank man. 816 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 2: I'll drawn him. 817 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 12: I promise, I'll make him fucking work. So call me. 818 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 12: Keep me in mind, guys, and I think you guys 819 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 12: will have a new fucking Mexican American champion. 820 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: Dude, I would see the real Kane Velaskaz. 821 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 2: I wonder if they watched if the UFC brass watches that, 822 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 2: and it's like. 823 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: He's fucking right. 824 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: This is the two alpha fight that we thought the 825 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 2: DDP versus Tamia fight was because we thought it would 826 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 2: be more just in the mix of everything in the recklessness. 827 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 2: But no, this one has that potential to be more 828 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 2: about just high pace, both having the same skill sets 829 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 2: in some ways. 830 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 3: If it's and also here's a very basic question. No 831 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 3: one is going to argue that Hernandez is a better 832 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 3: wrestler than Shamia. Certainly, I would not make that argument. 833 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 3: But if it ends up coming down to being because 834 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 3: TAMAIV gets tired a labor issue, Fluffy's gonna win that 835 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 3: one ten times out of ten. That's an interesting fight 836 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 3: to me. Also, we have Kyle giving sound. 837 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: For we're getting there. 838 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 2: I did want to ask you before we show Kyle here, 839 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 2: who is the best dance partner if they were going 840 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 2: to save Tremaiah for the debut paramount card? Who brings 841 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: the most name value, who brings the most potential. 842 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: Strickland, Yeah, I think that's right. Strickland, that is right. 843 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 2: If that's going to be their first CBS Live type 844 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: of deal, I don't know. 845 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: We'll see what happened when we come back in October. 846 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 2: Here is the aforementioned Kyle Bohalio talking about him being 847 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 2: the guy to beat HAMSA. 848 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 8: But we see five hundred and twenty nine total strikes 849 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 8: landed twenty one minutes of ground control. But you see 850 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 8: a lot of fans out there calling it boring, not exciting. 851 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: What did you think he did? Just back connection, but 852 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: this time he didn't finish. 853 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 13: So when a grapple it comes and just hug the 854 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 13: guys and he doesn't finish, he becomes a boring fight. 855 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 13: Spent one month in his training camp when he was 856 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 13: in All Stars over there, and I know very well 857 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 13: how he works, he sees him and everything. And I 858 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 13: think I'm have a advantage between all the middleweight fighters. I 859 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 13: think I'm the one that had have advantage to beat 860 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 13: him because I know what what exactly is he's doing, 861 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 13: what exactly is his system and all these steps that 862 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 13: he needs to go through, and hows to deny these steps. 863 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 13: So I'm very respectful for Hamsa. He's like a brother 864 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 13: for me. But at this time, at this point is 865 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 13: level of the competition. 866 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 8: It's me and him. You know, let's talk. Maybe Humsat 867 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,439 Speaker 8: will turn around for Abbi Dabby. Would you be open 868 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 8: to you know, fighting and then fighting again that soon 869 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 8: or would you maybe have him fight someone else? 870 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: Then you get the winner. 871 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 13: To be honest, if if someone somebody offered him avolve 872 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,240 Speaker 13: to fight Hamsa, he will say no right now because 873 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 13: he was mopped in the floor by Hamsa when they 874 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 13: trained together. So to be honest with you, if you 875 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 13: comes to me right now and say fucking above, he's 876 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 13: a guy that gives us a lot of work. He 877 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 13: didn't want to fight on International Fight Week. He called 878 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 13: it backup as a left over. He's like, he don't 879 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 13: respect the UFC, so fuck him above, Fuck Perry go 880 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 13: prepared to fight Hams in October. 881 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm ready. 882 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 13: If YOU'REFC offer me this, I'll say yes right away. 883 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: Dude. 884 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 2: This is going to make their fight in Paris in September, 885 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 2: him and Imovov. He's going to be electric because they 886 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 2: both know that, like Laro Murphy, who we're going to 887 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 2: talk about in a second, you can turn your reputation 888 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 2: in an instance with a badass finish or a breakthrough win. 889 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 3: Right there, you're right there, And I think Kyo to 890 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 3: me doesn't sound like he doesn't believe he can win this. 891 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: Neither Flood they are convinced. Sounds badass, they can win this. Yeah, 892 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: I love can't say. 893 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 4: What's your guys opinion on Kyo weighing in as the 894 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 4: backup two weeks before he's. 895 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: Headlined like that. 896 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 3: Probably a mistake, right, Probably a mistake. Maybe I may 897 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 3: not be a fatal one, but my mistake. 898 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 2: Yeah all right. Hey, by the way, you want to 899 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: talk about timing, put the camera on me now as 900 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 2: a good time as ever to remember where Tequila's story 901 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 2: truly began. Let's go back to seventeen ninety five, wherever 902 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 2: I invented tequila. 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So the next big pay 912 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 3: per view is Canelo Crawford. But a next big MMA 913 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 3: pay per view is not till October. 914 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 2: So it's the last week of September and then it 915 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 2: turns October. So that's you have see three twenty Abu 916 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 2: Dhabi and Calia versus Peira two yep, and then Morob 917 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 2: versus Corey, Sandy and brit That's going to be a 918 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 2: big pregame preview as well. Fired Up for that one, 919 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 2: all right. Topic number two takes us to the co 920 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 2: main event on Saturday, which could have been a debuting 921 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 2: coronation for Aaron Pico into true featherweight title contention in 922 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 2: a potential gift to the promotion as we talked about 923 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 2: coming in. But oh by the way, last minute and 924 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 2: opponent Laro Murphy was sixteen oh to one and that 925 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 2: became seventeen in such a shocking, violent, massive way after 926 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 2: a first round in which Pico very aggressively, if not 927 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,240 Speaker 2: over aggressively, brought the offense to Murphy. Late in that round, 928 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 2: with his back to the cage, he unleashed a KO 929 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 2: of the year like spinning back this ko swiminning back 930 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 2: elbow excuse me the tenth and promotional history and back 931 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,720 Speaker 2: to back fights after Carlokes practice did it the one before? 932 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 2: Holy shit, It was one of those type of moments 933 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 2: that Dana White deals. How much does a win like 934 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 2: this do for Lo Murphy's promotional development? Considering I thought 935 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 2: this was a chance for the UFC to get rid 936 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 2: of the problems with where do we put this guy? 937 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 2: This is a new guy, Luke, Holy Shit's that's gotta 938 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 2: be overnight changing your fortunes in a massive way. 939 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 3: I don't know if there was anyone else short of 940 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 3: the champ. I don't know if there as anyone else 941 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 3: on the roster they could have matched him up with 942 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 3: that would have yielded as promotionally valuable a result as 943 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 3: this one, right, because Pico had a ton of hype 944 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 3: coming in Murphy, I think people begrudgingly, not us, but 945 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 3: others begrudgingly respected him. But you know, didn't think that 946 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 3: he was necessarily a dangerous. 947 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 2: Nin evv in that begrudging You don't feel like he 948 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 2: was the fill in for the guy that people didn't want. 949 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 3: That exactly right, and you know, a bit of an 950 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,959 Speaker 3: unknown figure to most. To be perfectly honest, you could 951 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 3: have matched him up with Mosar, but what do you 952 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 3: have gotten an electric win like this. You could have 953 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 3: matched him up with Yayir and that would have been good. 954 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 3: But I don't think he's gonna fight yea year like this. 955 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 3: To the point I'm trying to make is you got 956 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 3: a promotional darling to make himself vulnerable in such a 957 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 3: way where Murphy got the most electric win of his 958 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 3: career at the most important juncture. I think he's thirty 959 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 3: six again, yep, thirty I believe that's right. 960 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 2: Look is Laron Murphy thirty six? 961 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: Double sounds way too old? Way looked that up? Look 962 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: that up. 963 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 2: I'm offended by that. 964 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: Maybe thirty four? What is he? I'm typing, guys, give me. 965 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 2: I mean, this should be quicker long. 966 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: You know, I'm on a phone. 967 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 2: It's a controller for the two hour shows. 968 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 1: Here, I clicked the Wikipedia. He's thirty four, thirty four, Okay, 969 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: getting up there. 970 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 2: It's time. 971 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 1: It's time. 972 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 3: As a point'm trying to make, this was I mean, 973 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 3: it could not have gone better for him. 974 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 2: This was like uh what's his name? Uh? Head kicking 975 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 2: Camarro in the rematch Leon Edwards a little in terms 976 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 2: of turning your faith. Only that was for the championship. 977 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 3: I mean, although he was getting thrashed in that fight 978 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 3: a little bit, and it was it was competitive in spots, 979 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 3: but whatever, this was so good for him. This was 980 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 3: this was I mean, it's worst case scenario for Aaron Pico, 981 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 3: honestly it is, and this is best case scenario for 982 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 3: Laren Murphy. It is that stark and that different, and honestly, 983 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 3: BC good for him, man, because I just don't know 984 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,479 Speaker 3: what other combination they could have given him that would 985 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 3: have just catapulted him in the way that he did 986 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 3: it one more time. He took this fight on three weeks. 987 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 3: Notice he traveled, made weight and got a first round KO. 988 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 3: What more can you ask from a guy? 989 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 2: And he weathered the storm of Pico's over aggressiveness, but 990 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 2: it was at times effective over aggressiveness when he's landing 991 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 2: those big time hooks to the body. He took Murphy down, 992 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 2: landed some kind of heavy ground and pound. Looked like 993 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 2: that that you know, contracted, you know, hit man right there. 994 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 2: But if you noticed his advances increasingly got a little 995 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 2: more reckless. He got checked by a left hand when 996 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 2: he went in for a double leg. He caught on 997 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 2: knee of the face, and it started to be like, okay, 998 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 2: Murphy's picking this up. Still, Holy shit, that was a 999 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 2: violent finish. I mean, Pico was down so long. Do 1000 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 2: you see the Daniel Cormier video he put out where 1001 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 2: he was like from our vantage point, it took four 1002 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 2: people to come in and upwards of four minutes to 1003 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 2: get the mouthpiece out, and he was out for you know, 1004 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 2: over four minutes. I know. He put out a statement 1005 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 2: that on Instagram that was like, you know, I've been 1006 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 2: here before. I'm gonna bounce back. This is just a loss, 1007 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 2: it's a setback. As much as this was the most 1008 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,720 Speaker 2: samee greatest thing that could ever happen to Luran Murphy, 1009 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 2: I can't imagine a worst case scenario. And at the 1010 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 2: same time, it wasn't a lucky shot. He was doing 1011 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 2: the things that got him in trouble back when he 1012 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,720 Speaker 2: was originally climbing, and while that last nine fight stretch 1013 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 2: he had repaired it. This is a higher level of competition. 1014 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 2: I know. It's something we debated during the pregame preview. 1015 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: I was right. 1016 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 2: He brought it. You know, what can you say he 1017 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 2: brought He brought it on himself. He was over aggressive, 1018 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 2: he was effective. Now he was knocked out cold. And 1019 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 2: I don't even know about his feature, Luke, I really don't. 1020 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 2: I don't really know how you picked this up. 1021 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 3: I mean this it's gonna sound hyperbolic, but we were 1022 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,240 Speaker 3: right to note that on the pregame preview, Like Dude Larone, 1023 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 3: we said it about Mosar, the Mozar is not a 1024 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 3: big puncher or even you know, a very capable striker 1025 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 3: in that way. Yeah, so the argument was the same, 1026 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 3: which was, you've never fought anyone remotely this good, but 1027 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 3: the threat of mozart Is could take q pay on 1028 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 3: that badly, right right, And it's just it's just a 1029 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 3: different threat, like he's gonna wrestle you and blah blah blah. 1030 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 3: But Murphy's threat. And I didn't think he was gonna 1031 00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 3: be a big KO threat. I thought he'd be able 1032 00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 3: to touch and go and be hard to find. But 1033 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 3: then when you just roll up on a guy like 1034 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,720 Speaker 3: this so recklessly, look what happens. 1035 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:07,879 Speaker 1: BC. 1036 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 3: Let's just say it out loud, like Pico is a 1037 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 3: very very nice young man and he's only twenty eight. 1038 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 3: That part is true, but his career is in trouble. 1039 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 2: You like saying get into modeling, now, No, that's not 1040 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:20,839 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 1041 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 3: I'm not even saying he won't come back and get 1042 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,320 Speaker 3: some nice wins. I think he will, but the amount 1043 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 3: of damage he's taken has compromised his ability to absorb 1044 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 3: further damage. 1045 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 2: He's like a mere Khan. 1046 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: And the thing that got me was like, dude, you 1047 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: got in trouble in MMA for rushing your offense when 1048 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't the rest and partly the rest of his 1049 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: game wasn't ready but still rushing and in your UFC debut, 1050 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: you're still doing this, ye, dude. I mean I don't 1051 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 1: know what to say, but like, how can you be 1052 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: repeating these kinds of mistakes unnecessarily? 1053 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 2: I mean I was wrong, of course, I just never 1054 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 2: thought he would go back to that way of creating 1055 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 2: that mistake. That'll, right, take your time, take your time, 1056 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 2: I mean, slowly wrestle him, wear him out a little bit, 1057 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:04,879 Speaker 2: lean on that all that. 1058 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 3: It wasn't like Murphy marched over across the cage and 1059 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 3: then like forced him into a firefight. He was the 1060 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,439 Speaker 3: one doing this. It just is the decision making is poor. 1061 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 3: The consequences are catastrophic. 1062 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: His career is in trouble. It's in trouble. It's not over, 1063 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 1: but it's in trouble. 1064 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 2: You would almost need a complete defensive overhaul. 1065 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: It's not just but have we done this. 1066 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 2: We've we've been through this. Yeah, and it's only the he. 1067 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 3: Tried to stagger step like his way in and then 1068 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 3: by the time he gets hit, he's square. 1069 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 2: It's I mean, your heart broke form, didn't it. Your 1070 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 2: heart broke form. It's what happens in this game, but 1071 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 2: holy shit. 1072 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,439 Speaker 3: It did break from But at the same time, it's 1073 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 3: like I don't know what to say to people. 1074 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 2: Like damn well, considering the trash talk between Peko and 1075 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 2: Volkanovski leading up to this fight, we felt like we 1076 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 2: had the perfect transition into a red hot matchup that 1077 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,399 Speaker 2: we need to see. Luckily for Laron Murphy, he's He's 1078 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 2: transitioned us pretty excitingly. Maybe not on the level of 1079 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 2: what we would expect out of Peko versus Volk, but 1080 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 2: now we need to recalibrate how difficult a matchup potentially 1081 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 2: thirty four year old the Royd Murphy will be for 1082 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 2: the two time champion. First, let's here from Murphy at 1083 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 2: the post fight pressor repeating what he did in the cage, 1084 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 2: which was calling out the chip. 1085 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 6: And again, nothing is concrete in this game, but you 1086 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 6: have the featherweight champion of the world calling you out 1087 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 6: for a fight in December. Alex Wolkonowski wants to fight. 1088 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 6: It seems like you've done enough at this stage. Is 1089 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 6: that the fighting is that the timeline you would like 1090 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 6: to do. 1091 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 14: That December will be perfect for me. Gives me time 1092 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 14: to recharge, spend some time with the family, and then 1093 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 14: and work on some bits and get better and come 1094 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 14: back better. December would be great to share the to 1095 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 14: gone with Volkanovski, one of the featherweight goats, another adding 1096 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 14: another scalp to my already quality resume. I'm nine fights, 1097 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 14: nine fights, nine fights. No, yeah, so I've had ten 1098 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 14: fights in the UFC now one draw, nine wins. 1099 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: It's time for a title fight. 1100 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 2: Hard to debate that at all, in fact, and he's 1101 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 2: never been sexier in that regard. Uh. Look, before we 1102 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 2: throw it to Dana White, I do how much of 1103 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 2: a threat is he to the title after that performance? 1104 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 3: I would not favor him to beat Folkanovski, but I 1105 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,720 Speaker 3: think he's a worthy adversary that could surprise. I wouldn't 1106 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 3: I wouldn't bet on him, but I would not dismiss 1107 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 3: him as some kind of overmatched nothing. 1108 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't think that's right. 1109 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 2: And nobody's got a stronger case of by the way 1110 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,359 Speaker 2: right now, unless you want to go back to ev Love, 1111 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 2: who just pulled out of right, so you're not. 1112 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: Most are in a different circumstance would be the guy. 1113 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 4: But now no, so, uh do you guys think if 1114 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,280 Speaker 4: Jan Silva beats Diego Lopez in a month. 1115 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 3: So that's the X factor that opens up factor. If 1116 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 3: he goes in there and fucks Diego Lopez up, he's 1117 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,240 Speaker 3: gonna jump the queue. 1118 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, but how could it be a sexier finish? 1119 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 2: Then he just did that to the potential new Golden 1120 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 2: Jayon Silva. He fucks, yeah, he fucks. 1121 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 3: So it's a it's a it's a tall order, but 1122 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 3: I let's see, let's see, let's go from the boss. 1123 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 2: Here's Dana Way reacting to the idea of Vulk versus Murphy. 1124 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,280 Speaker 6: Alex Wolkonowski said he would like to fight him in December. 1125 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 6: It's not often you see a champion calling out the 1126 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,240 Speaker 6: challenger could be interested. 1127 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 2: I love it and here's the two. Okay, here we 1128 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 2: go it. That's all we need to hear. Here's the 1129 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 2: tweet and mentioned Vulk came right out after that call 1130 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 2: out in the kid see in December, Laurn Murphy, congrats. 1131 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: He's looking for it to get back out there. 1132 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 2: Vulk also recorded a video sense then in his car 1133 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 2: talking about this matchup. 1134 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,479 Speaker 15: A lot of people gonna be like, moms, I should 1135 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 15: be there is like, hey, I tried it. 1136 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna tell you right now. I try 1137 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 1: to make that happen. I thought he deserves it. He 1138 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: did deserve it. 1139 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,919 Speaker 15: He had this fight and then I'm like, all right, 1140 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 15: you know he's gonna have to do this fight. And 1141 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 15: then he definitely gets it, and then he pulled out. 1142 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 1: And you know what the UFC is like with things 1143 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 1: like that. 1144 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 15: You know that maybe they try to push it back 1145 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 15: because they pushed the date further and he still didn't 1146 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 15: do it. 1147 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 1: Maybe it was a serious injury. I'm not sure. I 1148 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. 1149 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 2: Maybe that's why he have thought as well. 1150 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 15: I don't know, but you know, it doesn't look like 1151 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 15: it's gonna be a ah, you know. 1152 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:07,720 Speaker 1: A Movza. 1153 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 15: But I mean I've tried with all of them, but 1154 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 15: now it looks like it's a Laura Murphy. 1155 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,959 Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense. So let's do Loroa 1156 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: Murphy decend. 1157 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 2: Sounds good to me. Volk, do you think if al 1158 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:22,439 Speaker 2: Jo beats Ortega on Saturday that he catapults back into 1159 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 2: this conversation or does the loss to iv Loev, even 1160 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 2: though it was competitive, hold him back. 1161 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 3: Sterling could make a little noise, but I just feel like, 1162 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 3: it's the kind of matchup where it's going to be 1163 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 3: really hard to do that, and it's in China and 1164 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 3: it's at six in the morning. 1165 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:39,759 Speaker 1: You know, they're not. 1166 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 3: Exactly setting him up. They're not setting him up to fail, 1167 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 3: but they're not. This is a little bit of you know, 1168 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 3: swimming upstream in order to get what you want, can 1169 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 3: be done that it would have to be extremely impressive. 1170 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean, again, to your. 1171 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 2: Point, you just lost a couple of really close ones 1172 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 2: in this division, right. 1173 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 3: And he lost to moss Are in a very fun 1174 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 3: ass fight. So well that's the other part too. But 1175 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 3: like you know, again, dude, Laren Murphy doesn't have the 1176 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,240 Speaker 3: name recognition that Aljo had, but he's got an arguable 1177 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 3: KO of the Year contender and that's just going to 1178 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 3: be really tough to beat. 1179 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 2: To close the book on Pico, does this play into 1180 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 2: the argument that those coming from Bellator or PFL, you know, 1181 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 2: have a hard time. I mean, you can always argue 1182 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 2: back and say that Eddie Alvarez became champion. There's always 1183 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 2: going to be But on this recent run, which includes 1184 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 2: Patricio Pitbull, you know, losing in his UFC debut on 1185 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 2: a spot where he could have gone over maybe become 1186 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 2: a title contender. Does this play into that that thread 1187 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 2: at all? 1188 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think to a degree it does. 1189 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 3: People overstated because the problem with the argument is that 1190 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 3: they made it for Strikeforce and it was totally untrue. 1191 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 3: They made it for WEC and it was totally untrue. 1192 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 3: The leaders and trust me, they were saying if you 1193 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 3: were like you weren't a round back then I was, 1194 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,840 Speaker 3: and they were saying the exact same things. So partly 1195 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 3: you roll your eyes a little bit at it, however, 1196 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,280 Speaker 3: you know, and also too, like Kayla Harrison came from PFL. 1197 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 3: She's three, you know, when she's a champion, you know, 1198 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,879 Speaker 3: there's people you can point to that have done well. 1199 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 3: But for the beltour guys, yeah, it hurts a little bit. Again, 1200 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,840 Speaker 3: you got you got post Prime pit Bull and he 1201 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 3: did rescue himself against Danny Gay, but it. 1202 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 2: Has he's doing something vs. 1203 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,800 Speaker 3: VP's out there, you know, making some noise and a 1204 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 3: little bit kind of stuff. But in in other words, 1205 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 3: I will say this, By the time that Bellatour was created, 1206 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 3: the difference between UFC and Strike Force was not nearly 1207 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 3: as pronounced as the difference between UFC and Bellatore, and 1208 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,399 Speaker 3: so you wouldn't want to say, oh, because he fought 1209 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 3: in Beltour, he can't compete. They also match made a 1210 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 3: real tough let's be honest about that. But but there 1211 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 3: is I think, you know, it's not a it's not 1212 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 3: a yeah, there's a difference. 1213 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the Michael Chandler experience overall is 1214 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:41,839 Speaker 2: a success story as an. 1215 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,320 Speaker 3: Expels promotionally, it's a big success story. A lot of 1216 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 3: guys got nice wins off of him, you know, multiple times, 1217 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 3: and his two wins the hooker and Ferguson win are 1218 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:50,720 Speaker 3: devastating KOs. 1219 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 2: Yes, and he's been in countless Fight of the Year contenders. 1220 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 2: It's it's like a it's like a holiday when he's 1221 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 2: fighting that you know you're going to get an absolute 1222 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 2: brawl against a fellow veteran, So close out the comain. 1223 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 2: Let's go to topic number three, which was the rest 1224 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 2: of the UFC three nineteen main card, which produced some 1225 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 2: really big finishes, and none more than the first of 1226 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 2: back to back spinning elbowkos, only this time it was 1227 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 2: from a refurbished Carlos Protest, fresh off that lost to 1228 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 2: Ian Matchatto Gary Over in their sort of number one 1229 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 2: contenders about or at least it felt a quasi version 1230 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 2: of that where he looked bad early good late. He 1231 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 2: came in and you can tell he did the hard 1232 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 2: work in terms of the cardio squaring off against Jeff Neil, 1233 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,439 Speaker 2: overwhelming him a bit early with the striking, but once 1234 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,439 Speaker 2: he started to pick away, hurt Neil and then set 1235 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 2: him up for that devastating spinning back elbow that Lord 1236 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 2: Neil blood coming out of the side of his head. Luke, 1237 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 2: how redemptive was this? Does this erase? And he stepped 1238 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 2: back against Gary and now make him look better than ever. 1239 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, still flawing the cigarettes like 1240 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 2: not even you know, like kids, this is how you 1241 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 2: can get ahead, just like me, and like yo, I'm 1242 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 2: gonna be drinking for three to four days before I started. 1243 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 1: Fucking Bill Hicks, the fucking Bill Hicks of UFC. 1244 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, only it's cool. It's it's fucking cool as shit too. 1245 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 2: This guy's on fire. 1246 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 3: The aura man, well, Bill Hicks was pretty cool. But 1247 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 3: to your point, this is huge. You know, you don't 1248 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 3: want to overstate one thing. I still think BCEE people 1249 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,319 Speaker 3: are going to look at Carlos protests and they're going 1250 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 3: to say, well, there might be some other questions about 1251 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 3: exactly how good he can be. But what I loved 1252 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 3: in this fight is not just that he had that 1253 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,840 Speaker 3: devastating win BC. He was setting it up the whole time, 1254 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 3: how creatively and how massively he was spreading out his 1255 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,280 Speaker 3: targets of attack, leg kick, front kick, a jab, cross, 1256 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:39,520 Speaker 3: uppercut hook. 1257 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,839 Speaker 2: He's not just being power right, He's putting the game. 1258 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 3: He's going ahead body leg, leg, head, body, He's just 1259 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 3: mixing it up. And then finally, you know, like the 1260 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 3: fighting nerds do, they put a little bit of sauce 1261 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 3: on that before they serve it to you, and it's tremendous. 1262 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is people will focus on the 1263 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 3: finish and be like, wasn't that great? Sure, but the 1264 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 3: stuff he was doing before that to really create huh, 1265 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 3: wasn't that great? You know I'm saying they will say, 1266 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 3: wasn't that great the stuff he was doing? Yeah, yes, 1267 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 3: of course it was. But I'm saying the stuff in 1268 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 3: the lead up to it, with the targets diversity and 1269 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 3: the striking diversity, that's what I wanted to see and 1270 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 3: that's what enable to finish and dude, no one has 1271 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,799 Speaker 3: put out Jeff Neil with that. 1272 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 2: Men shows you like he's even more dangerous than maybe 1273 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 2: we thought. 1274 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 1275 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 2: I think he's going to learn the lessons from not 1276 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 2: not sticking to the game plan and that I and 1277 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 2: Gary fight and freestyling maybe a little bit too much, 1278 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 2: but he's not going to stop smoking cigarettes. This of 1279 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,800 Speaker 2: protests at the presser afterwards was just it was our. 1280 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 3: Team fighting nerds went three and oh today, so I guess, uh, 1281 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,720 Speaker 3: how's the team back there after Karine's wins. He looks 1282 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 3: like a mechanic and you know, I don't know pick 1283 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 3: any part of any any what you want to call, 1284 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,840 Speaker 3: like any junkyard filled with the scraps. 1285 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 2: Dude, Should they in your eyes, given that the UFC 1286 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 2: really doesn't silence or police people, you can say what 1287 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,280 Speaker 2: you want. You can almost do what you want. Should 1288 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 2: they give him the Ricardo my Orga treatment and allow 1289 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 2: him in the post fight interviews in the cage, yes, 1290 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 2: to light up right there and sort of not worry 1291 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 2: about the message and all that. 1292 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: Just like, yes, yes they should? 1293 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 2: They mean he's living the life, dude. He said he's 1294 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 2: gonna need to party for four days before he even 1295 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 2: talks about his next week. 1296 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 1: Well, we got a little footage of that too, but 1297 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 1: h yes, they should, they should absolutely lean into this. Yes, 1298 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 1: oh my. 1299 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 2: God, here's Carlos Protest partying afterwards. 1300 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 1: That's me after three margaritas, except no one's cheering for me. 1301 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: The whole show time. 1302 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 2: Staff would all right, dude, Long Island look from like 1303 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 2: the hardcore fans favorite fighters, like did he just make 1304 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 2: the bleeper there? 1305 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? And I was rooting, not rooting. 1306 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 4: I was on Jeff Neil though in this fight, and 1307 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 4: I gotta say all week, I was like, Carlos Protest 1308 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 4: might be one of my favorite fighters. 1309 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: He's fucking great. It's great. 1310 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 2: That was I mean, Jeff Neils hard. It's hard to 1311 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 2: do that too, dude. He looked like damn, I mean 1312 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 2: he was. 1313 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and those the other part two. 1314 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 3: Did you guys not notice that Jeff Neil looked so 1315 00:57:58,840 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 3: much faster than him? 1316 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 2: Yes, when it was competitive early and before Protests started 1317 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 2: to find his mark, And though, I mean that's a did. 1318 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 4: You guys see that clip after Neil gets finished of 1319 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 4: Remi's brahimage in the crowd? No, No, Gilbert Burns was 1320 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 4: like obviously recording something, and Gilbert was miked up and 1321 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 4: Remize starts yelling. 1322 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 1: Say fucking ruined his career. 1323 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 4: Savee Salud and it was and Remize is a four 1324 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 4: disc guy too. I don't I don't know any details behind. 1325 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 1: It, but maybe or maybe was. 1326 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 2: That's a really inside baseball there in the MMA. Jim 1327 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 2: war as Wow, Luke, let's continue on down the card 1328 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 2: to now middleweight, but he is open and going back 1329 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 2: to welterway and that's Michael ven and Page. Excuse me. 1330 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 2: I thought he might come into trouble against a forty 1331 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 2: one year old Jared cannoneer who was figuring out how 1332 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 2: to how to really use his toughness and his brawling 1333 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 2: ability to his advantage. Like the last fight against Hobokop, 1334 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 2: this went much differently, as not only MVP was able 1335 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,360 Speaker 2: to do MVP things, but with a noticeably bigger body 1336 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 2: which didn't slow him down at all. He was even 1337 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 2: able to drop Cannon near a couple times, land clip 1338 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 2: combinations and almost just clown him. Ultimately afterwards, MVP is 1339 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 2: talking about the idea of a return to welterweight, the 1340 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 2: potential of a quick turnaround against who's he uh link 1341 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 2: to now it's falling out of my memory. He wanted 1342 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 2: who did he call out afterwards? 1343 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 1: Who MVP? Well, there was a talk of him fighting 1344 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:19,959 Speaker 1: protest That's. 1345 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, who we were just talking about exactly. I was 1346 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 2: like I was missing it in real time there. What 1347 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 2: do you make first of this victory? And do you 1348 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 2: think the welterweight path or the eighty eight five path 1349 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 2: could be more fruitful here? 1350 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I don't really, I don't. I don't 1351 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 3: know the answer to that because I feel like any 1352 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 3: kind of true escalation in either direction is impossible. You know, 1353 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 3: you're not gonna beat Rochmanov. You're not going to beat 1354 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 3: Sean Brady at one seventy. It's just not going to happen. 1355 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 3: There's other ones you can probably, I mean already fought 1356 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 3: eting Gary. 1357 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,440 Speaker 2: So you can give your name for money against protests. 1358 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 2: But you do have a shot of beating that guy. 1359 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 1: Yes, for sure him, for sure him. 1360 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 3: But at eighty five, look who's at the top there, 1361 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 3: Hamzat's up there and Fluffy's up there. Like those guys 1362 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 3: are fucking nightmare for MVP. So like the ultimate destination 1363 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 3: is not really achievable in either direction. So which direction 1364 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 3: do you go? I would say, whichever one gives you 1365 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 3: the most fun fights on a time agreeable to your calendar, 1366 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 3: and you know, to an extended money changes depending on 1367 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 3: the matchup. 1368 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Do that. 1369 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 3: I honestly don't think it really matters too much beyond that, 1370 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 3: because how far can you actually go? By the way, 1371 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 3: is not far from forty himself. He's getting up there 1372 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 3: as well. 1373 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 2: Said in the cage before the protest conversation really got 1374 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 2: going that if I can get another fun off r 1375 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 2: at middleweight like this, I'd take it in a heartbeat. 1376 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 14: Right. 1377 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 2: There are a lot of big names coming down. 1378 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 1: Yes, there's that as well. 1379 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 3: So to me, it's like, listen, as long as you 1380 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 3: can stay in fun relevant fights on big cards. If 1381 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,760 Speaker 3: it's one seventy, do that. If it's one eighty five, 1382 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 3: do that. But I don't think there has to be. 1383 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 3: It's not much more complicated than that. 1384 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 2: So the protest quick turnaround would be in Brazil. That 1385 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 2: would be crazy to fight that dude in Brazil. Wow, 1386 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 2: here's MVP taking to the mic and talking about which 1387 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 2: veteran middleweight he might prefer to fight next. 1388 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,320 Speaker 1: If that falls through, you just beat the number nine 1389 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 1: guy at middleweight. 1390 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 8: I'm gonna throw a couple of names at you and 1391 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 8: you tell me what you think about it. We got 1392 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,960 Speaker 8: we got Robert Whittaker and we got Sean Strickland. 1393 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 1: What do you think about those two? 1394 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 16: Either one? Robert Witz I'm a massive fan of I 1395 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 16: love his style. I love his just how he fights 1396 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 16: up and down. What a great fight, you know the 1397 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 16: similarities in our styles. 1398 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 1: What a great fight. 1399 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 2: Strickland is just a beastive work for it. 1400 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,200 Speaker 16: He's gonna want to just take those shots, but again, 1401 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 16: a great fight. I want big names, I want big fights, 1402 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 16: and you just named two people. 1403 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent in. 1404 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 2: The Strickland fight could be wild. Strickland would take those 1405 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 2: shots and keep coming on. He would be the Forest 1406 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 2: Griffin to the Anderson Silva. 1407 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 3: That would be a hell of a difference too, with 1408 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 3: one guy marching him down and kind of deflecting the 1409 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,439 Speaker 3: other guy just having to leap in all the time. 1410 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 2: Okay, what about the ultimate Spider meme man meme fight 1411 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:51,640 Speaker 2: MVP versus Izzy. 1412 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 1: I don't know that they would boys. 1413 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 4: They said they would only fight if there was a 1414 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 4: shitload quote unquote shipload of money on the table. 1415 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 2: And also that they would kind of circle and not 1416 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 2: commit right if it would be like the ultimate. 1417 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 3: I mean is he is definitely not going to like 1418 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 3: bite down on the mouthpiece against a guy like that. 1419 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 3: You know he's gonna play it smart. So if they 1420 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 3: wouldn't make it, I wouldn't hate it. It just seems unlikely. 1421 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,320 Speaker 2: Especially compared to the other potential opportunities there. Hey, good 1422 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 2: win for MVP, and we'll see. He'll have his offers. 1423 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 1: Right now, I will say. 1424 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 3: Because his game is so predicated on speed and reflexes, 1425 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 3: I thought he would have fallen off by now, but. 1426 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 1: He has found some interesting longevity. You got to give 1427 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 1: him credit. 1428 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 2: A threat with that extra speed event. 1429 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 1: He is much faster than these guys. It's very very pretty. 1430 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 2: I mean, do you think he was hitting harder. He 1431 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 2: was just landing so clean, so quickly. 1432 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 3: I think his punches have almost like a pushing effect, 1433 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 3: because when you watch the replay, they do make like 1434 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,720 Speaker 3: pretty good contact. But he's not like whipping people's chins 1435 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 3: past their shoulder. He's more like hitting them and then 1436 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 3: they lose their balance and the process and then they 1437 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,400 Speaker 3: get back up. So it's like the charging almost has 1438 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 3: like a pushing effect. 1439 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: That's the point. 1440 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,920 Speaker 2: So he does kind of fight in like like ban 1441 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 2: the old Batman TV show when he'd punch it on 1442 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 2: the screen like Powell. 1443 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:03,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called automnopia. 1444 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he he fights in a very automnopius. So I like, hey, 1445 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 2: how about thirty eight year old Tim Elliott kicking off 1446 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,440 Speaker 2: the main card against a kaya Osakura who had lost 1447 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,440 Speaker 2: his UFC debut but in a title fight against Pantosia 1448 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,080 Speaker 2: two years removed. This veteran Tim Elliott, of course, was 1449 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 2: caught up in that weird divorce love triangle on Twitter. 1450 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 2: Put all that away, came back and was in probably 1451 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 2: the best shape of his career. Was dynamic at times, 1452 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 2: fought smart at times, and then he goes in there 1453 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,439 Speaker 2: and gets a damn submission victory over kai Osakura. Luke. 1454 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 2: This was a flowing Tim Elliott who had longer haired 1455 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 2: during the press things this week, shaved it off and 1456 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 2: then sat in the corner as the cameras came to 1457 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,680 Speaker 2: him after the victory and was like like A g 1458 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 2: was like, I love this shit. It felt good to 1459 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 2: see the old guy get the win. But like the 1460 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 2: old guy looked maybe as good as he looks since 1461 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:53,560 Speaker 2: the Demetrius Johnson. 1462 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 3: Fight, very impressive and at first too, you know, I thought, 1463 01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 3: okay Osakora lost a pantoe. All right, well that's pantoja, 1464 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like what you're gonna do? 1465 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 1: You know? 1466 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 3: But he shows up here and Elliott at first is 1467 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 3: doing you know, in like far weird shit. Yeah, and 1468 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 3: I didn't love it, But what if you watch the 1469 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 3: final sequence. Well, if you watch the final sequence, you 1470 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,440 Speaker 3: got Asakora, who is prone to charge at times, charging 1471 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 3: and he's able to get underneath that for the takedown, 1472 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 3: and then he just had basically superior grappling from there 1473 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 3: on out. Like I'm not I don't know to what 1474 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,440 Speaker 3: extent he baited him, but it looked like he baited 1475 01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 3: him a little bit or it kind of encouraged him 1476 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 3: to go into a little bit more of a defensively 1477 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 3: vulnerable charge. 1478 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 1: Dude, he's crafty. 1479 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 3: Like tim Elle was one of the first guys, by 1480 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,479 Speaker 3: the way, and I say this not pejoratively tim Elle. 1481 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:42,840 Speaker 3: It was one of the first guys being like, I'm 1482 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,200 Speaker 3: definitely gonna foul people a couple of times about because 1483 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 3: they don't they don't take a point, so why wouldn't you? 1484 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 3: And I'm like, right, that's exactly right, Like why the 1485 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 3: fuck wouldn't you? He plays the game BC in a 1486 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,439 Speaker 3: way where you think, oh, well he's not very good 1487 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 3: because he plays the game that way. But it turns 1488 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 3: out like in certain dimensions he does actually have pretty 1489 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 3: considerable skill and he'll play it in a veteran way. 1490 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 3: He didn't need to do that so much in this 1491 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 3: particular sense. But again, all of those like you know, 1492 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 3: doing the robot shit, I think it threw off Osacura 1493 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 3: a little bit. 1494 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 1: And look at the result. 1495 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 2: He'll deserve a pretty high rank guy after this win. 1496 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 3: I mean it was very redempt and also for people 1497 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 3: being like, oh, well Demetrius didn't beat you know, he 1498 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 3: beat tim Ellia. How good is it Timilia? Tim Elliot's 1499 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 3: pretty fucking good. 1500 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,880 Speaker 2: Actually, he's definitely traded wins and losses in ways that 1501 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 2: made him you know, journeymen or gatekeeper level in recent years. 1502 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 2: But this was a step up, in a very step through, 1503 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:31,680 Speaker 2: step forward victory. 1504 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 1: Although Osacura coming from Rise and has been a huge. 1505 01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,760 Speaker 2: Disappointment, well that's the flip side of it. So how 1506 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,640 Speaker 2: big of a disappointment. I mean it puts him into 1507 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 2: the middle of the pack or worse. It's it's not 1508 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,240 Speaker 2: something that you know, two to three consecutive wins can't fix. 1509 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,760 Speaker 2: But I also wasn't impressed ultimately with his ability to 1510 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 2: find ways to exert dominant's dominance in the face of 1511 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 2: Elliott's awkwardness. I mean he had significant trouble with that. 1512 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 3: Yes, now, there's simply no question he didn't really know 1513 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 3: how to deal with it, to be honest with you. 1514 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,120 Speaker 3: And he's a good puncher and he can be a 1515 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 3: good wrestler, but I don't know, he's been disappointing in 1516 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:06,919 Speaker 3: his UFC run. 1517 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:08,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Long Island. Look, can you can you give me 1518 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 2: confidence that Kyle will bounce back? 1519 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 1: I think he's still a viable option. How about like 1520 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 1: hi Ver Steve Ver sig. That sounds fun to me. 1521 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 4: I think it's a winnable fight for both guys. Both 1522 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 4: guys kind of need I mean, I know Steve just won, 1523 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 4: but he still needs like a little little bump up, 1524 01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:22,960 Speaker 4: you know. 1525 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,000 Speaker 2: I mean the loser gets really set back, but that's 1526 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 2: why those fights happened. 1527 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the loser would be in terrible position 1528 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,000 Speaker 1: at that point. But you can do it. 1529 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 2: Where's Ascar, ask Grovel? We need him. 1530 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 1: He's with Zabeat hanging out, hanging out the winner circle. Conrad. 1531 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 2: All right, that was the main card. But I want 1532 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 2: to talk to you something about rivalries. Okay, big time rivalries. 1533 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,680 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the kind that produced highlight reels, the 1534 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 2: kind that produce breakout stars. Yeah, college football is back, 1535 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 2: and it's back with a bang. And now is your 1536 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 2: time to score big on pick six with DraftKings. 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Hey, how about Chase Hooper bringing 1588 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,719 Speaker 2: that five fight win streak at lightweight and really becoming 1589 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,840 Speaker 2: a prospect until he ran into Alexander Hernandez and he 1590 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,880 Speaker 2: ran into him in a big way. I think it's 1591 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 2: fair to really call out the lack of striking in 1592 01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 2: this one by Hooper because he was getting pieced up 1593 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,640 Speaker 2: and then he got lit up with one second to 1594 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 2: go in the first round. How improved is Alexander Hernandez, 1595 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:47,960 Speaker 2: who we've seen at this level before, we seen him 1596 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 2: fall apart before. This looked like the best of him 1597 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 2: all over again. 1598 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1599 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, because Chase Hooper's Chase Hooper is massively 1600 01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,679 Speaker 3: improved and he looked huge by the way this fight too, 1601 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:01,360 Speaker 3: Like this. 1602 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,560 Speaker 2: Wasn't massively improved. But now it's Hernandez on the three fightin. 1603 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 3: And by the way, he's been in the UFC for like, 1604 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 3: I don't know how many years now and they're almost ten, 1605 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,040 Speaker 3: not quite maybe, and this is his first three fight 1606 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 3: win streak. 1607 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 1: Keep that in mind. 1608 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 3: That's actually kind of nuts that it took me this 1609 01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,000 Speaker 3: long to get it, especially since his first two fights 1610 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 3: in the UFC were back to back knockout wins yep 1611 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,000 Speaker 3: over Aom and Benil dry USh. 1612 01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,800 Speaker 1: But wait, wasn't the Oam a decision or you know, 1613 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,519 Speaker 1: it was a big win, but the dar USh one 1614 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 1: was a big ko. 1615 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:28,519 Speaker 2: Did the callers just change in here? 1616 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? They did just change in here way to go, 1617 01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 1: all right, it was Ken's fault. 1618 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 3: Sorry, somebody's got gummies in there, tum and they came 1619 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:36,080 Speaker 3: to work anyway. 1620 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:38,560 Speaker 2: I think it's a prerequisite. 1621 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, what I was gonna say, I don't know if 1622 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 3: I learned a whole lot new. I mean, he comes prepared, 1623 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,680 Speaker 3: he fights more disciplined, and he fights smarter, and we 1624 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,840 Speaker 3: saw evidence of that, but Chase super like I have 1625 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,599 Speaker 3: to go back and review the tape, but it felt 1626 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,719 Speaker 3: to me like his mechanics he did the Benson Henderson 1627 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,599 Speaker 3: jab where they lead with the elbow and then extend 1628 01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,320 Speaker 3: like they're doing a triceep flex, which is inherently a 1629 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 3: much slower way to reach a target, and that's where 1630 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:02,320 Speaker 3: he got countered. 1631 01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 2: And it's like, so it's more about Chase Hooper falling apart, 1632 01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 2: so destructive not or disastrously it is probably. 1633 01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:09,720 Speaker 1: The better word. I need to double check. 1634 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,880 Speaker 3: I haven't gone back and rewatched this fight enough to 1635 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,679 Speaker 3: declare exactly what got him into trouble, but I feel 1636 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,439 Speaker 3: like he was getting timed and therefore that's how he 1637 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:19,040 Speaker 3: got countered. 1638 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:19,800 Speaker 1: So it's a good job. 1639 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,040 Speaker 3: It's a good job by Hernandez. But if a guy's 1640 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 3: got big defensive flaws. You got to be a little 1641 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,120 Speaker 3: bit careful about overstating the upside. 1642 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,240 Speaker 2: I think I have video that could prove the reason 1643 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,639 Speaker 2: why he got caught Long Island. Look are you able 1644 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,400 Speaker 2: to pull that Chase Hooper video from? Have you seen 1645 01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:32,720 Speaker 2: this ship? 1646 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you know what number it is? 1647 01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 17: Number? 1648 01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, look at shit, you know 1649 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:41,640 Speaker 2: how about it? 1650 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:43,960 Speaker 1: You should have seen the out house? 1651 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I forget it all right? 1652 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,000 Speaker 3: Well you should have seen you should have seen the 1653 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,880 Speaker 3: porta potty I went to at the Arlington Fair. That's 1654 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 3: I don't want to it looked like the inside looked 1655 01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:53,599 Speaker 3: like the cover of a Cannibal Corpse album. 1656 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,800 Speaker 2: Really don't like this conversation? Uh luke lupy Godinias went 1657 01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,439 Speaker 2: in there in a pretty good all action back and 1658 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 2: forth with Yessica Androge. I was entertained who Dinyaz would 1659 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,160 Speaker 2: get the close nod on the scorecards? How ready is 1660 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,960 Speaker 2: the Mexican for a title shot at Straw? You're not serious, 1661 01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:10,200 Speaker 2: are you? 1662 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:10,680 Speaker 1: I don't know? 1663 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,679 Speaker 3: But that was a pretty good performance, don't you agree? 1664 01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 3: I mean, here's what I was gonna say, Like Loopy 1665 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:20,160 Speaker 3: was teeing off on her using great footwork, clearly landed 1666 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,160 Speaker 3: the more impactful strikes despite the one being on the 1667 01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,200 Speaker 3: back foot for the majority of that bout. And I thought, 1668 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 3: in general, just fought a really smart, uh and you know, 1669 01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 3: offensively capable contest. What stood out to me, though, BC 1670 01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,680 Speaker 3: was less you know, okay, definitely impressed with Godinaz's two 1671 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,759 Speaker 3: wins in a row though, so I'm not exactly exactly, 1672 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 3: but here's the thing for me, Jessica Androge looks like 1673 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,599 Speaker 3: she's given up a little bit. And what I mean 1674 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,120 Speaker 3: by that is not that she doesn't go in there 1675 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,000 Speaker 3: and try to win. She does, but it doesn't look 1676 01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,840 Speaker 3: like she is attempting to technically improve at all. Right, 1677 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,360 Speaker 3: you go in there and you watch her. She's still 1678 01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:01,240 Speaker 3: throwing these like wild ass arm punches well into round three. 1679 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,760 Speaker 3: And that doesn't mean she's not dangerous. We know she 1680 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,439 Speaker 3: can punch, we know she's strong. But it does mean 1681 01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,120 Speaker 3: that if you take a more technical approach, and you 1682 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 3: have a good game plan and you're a great athlete 1683 01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,200 Speaker 3: slash wrestler, slash you know, play the levels like Godinez, 1684 01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,040 Speaker 3: this is a very winnable contest for you. And she 1685 01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,519 Speaker 3: has no She's Androge, no ability to then make adjustments thereafter, 1686 01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,360 Speaker 3: like she's just right, like it looks at me like 1687 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,040 Speaker 3: she's made a decision, being like, Okay, this is my 1688 01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,439 Speaker 3: skill set, this is my athletic ability, this is just 1689 01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,160 Speaker 3: what it's going to be. And if this wins me 1690 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,439 Speaker 3: a fight, great, If it doesn't win me a fight, 1691 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,000 Speaker 3: it'll win me the next one. 1692 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:36,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how much I love that from her. 1693 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. It has been very back 1694 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 2: and forth. We did have video. I've missed it on 1695 01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,040 Speaker 2: the rundown. I see it now on Alexander Hernandez to 1696 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,240 Speaker 2: close that book, here's Hernandez explaining why he's been able 1697 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:48,920 Speaker 2: to turn it back around and win three in a row. 1698 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:50,800 Speaker 18: But I've been a really good mental state too, right now. 1699 01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,680 Speaker 18: You know, I had like big balls and advertised dick 1700 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,799 Speaker 18: when I first came in here, just like super Hubris, 1701 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,360 Speaker 18: you know. And now I feel like I've leveled out 1702 01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,360 Speaker 18: and I've got like a good level head on my shoulders, 1703 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 18: and I know how to lie. I know how to 1704 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:02,960 Speaker 18: be in the game, you know what I'm saying. And 1705 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 18: so now now now I know how to like I 1706 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,120 Speaker 18: know what I'm a vet now and so I feel 1707 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,040 Speaker 18: like I can execute on my on my plans, my words. 1708 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:10,240 Speaker 1: Better do you feel like of this? 1709 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,800 Speaker 2: That was tremendous? Now analysis you didn't prepare me for that, Luke. 1710 01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,320 Speaker 1: That's why I picked that one, because I was like, 1711 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:17,519 Speaker 1: BC's gonna love this. 1712 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:18,880 Speaker 2: Wow, what was that I got? 1713 01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,519 Speaker 3: I had big balls, had an average sized hog something 1714 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:21,840 Speaker 3: like that. 1715 01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 2: Oh, that was fantastic. So that is that's that tells 1716 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,639 Speaker 2: that story of him coming back. I mean, he's always 1717 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,000 Speaker 2: a fun fighter. So I want to see that. I 1718 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,280 Speaker 2: want to see Loop Loopy get an opportunity here to 1719 01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,800 Speaker 2: climb these rankings because beating jess Kondrodge at this point 1720 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,000 Speaker 2: still matters, even though she's becoming an over forty Dan 1721 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,000 Speaker 2: Henderson who just stands through with the right hand cocked. 1722 01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 2: You know, she doesn't move ahead, I mean at all, Luke, 1723 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,160 Speaker 2: after all these years and winning a championship. 1724 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,200 Speaker 3: And I think she's given up a little bit, like 1725 01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:47,920 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be who I am and that's what 1726 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:48,240 Speaker 3: you know. 1727 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,639 Speaker 2: Shut up and enjoy it. Yeah, and she's still ranked, 1728 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,880 Speaker 2: by the way. Let's go over to thirty nine year 1729 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,639 Speaker 2: old Edson Barbosa who went in there against Drakar Close 1730 01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,160 Speaker 2: and it's certainly the the end of times in a 1731 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,720 Speaker 2: lot of ways for Barbosa, but he's been coming in 1732 01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,720 Speaker 2: great shape. He's still been fighting good fighters. He had 1733 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,519 Speaker 2: lost to Laron Murphy by decision last time out, only 1734 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,800 Speaker 2: this time, Luke, he took a lot of punishment against 1735 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,080 Speaker 2: jer car Clos. Were you shocked? 1736 01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,360 Speaker 1: Edson looked bad? He looked bad. 1737 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,000 Speaker 3: I mean he still looks like physically. You look at 1738 01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:18,880 Speaker 3: him and you're like, wow, he's jacked. 1739 01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:20,640 Speaker 2: You know, he had that two fight win streak not 1740 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,599 Speaker 2: too long ago when he killed Billy Q and then 1741 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:23,599 Speaker 2: he beat Sadik Yusav. 1742 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you know, he goes down to forty 1743 01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:27,240 Speaker 3: five and he goes three and three. 1744 01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:28,720 Speaker 1: It didn't really change his fortunes. 1745 01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 3: So he comes back to fifty five and jacar Clos 1746 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,040 Speaker 3: is a good fighter. But it felt like you heard 1747 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,640 Speaker 3: Daniel Cormier talking about it, like it just looked like 1748 01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:42,120 Speaker 3: Barboza's reactions to getting hit. We're just they're concerning dide. 1749 01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,120 Speaker 3: You look at the amount of abuse that this dude 1750 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 3: has taken in his career and it's extraordinary. And now 1751 01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,280 Speaker 3: he's starting to move in a very lumbered way. 1752 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 2: It's getting there it's getting to the end, I. 1753 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:51,760 Speaker 1: Think for me. 1754 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:53,320 Speaker 3: So jacar Clos did the right thing. He had like 1755 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,519 Speaker 3: this pressure boxing style and it broke through. He did 1756 01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:57,000 Speaker 3: his job. 1757 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,280 Speaker 1: Great, great win for him, But I'm a little concerned 1758 01:15:59,280 --> 01:15:59,879 Speaker 1: for Barboza. 1759 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,000 Speaker 2: Did you side anywhere on what I thought was a 1760 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 2: pretty good women's flyweight out with Karini Silva and Dione Barbosa, 1761 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,040 Speaker 2: But a lot of people had issues with the scoring. 1762 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:09,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought the score, How did you score that 1763 01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:10,040 Speaker 1: one long round? 1764 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 4: Louke Barboza definitely won that fight. That was pretty shocking 1765 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,800 Speaker 4: when Karine got her hand raised. But I did have 1766 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,479 Speaker 4: Karne by decision, so I'll take. 1767 01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,200 Speaker 1: Oh on the bet, Yeah you did. 1768 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,280 Speaker 3: You did the You did the the two way hedge, 1769 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,240 Speaker 3: like you lack one person to win, but then you 1770 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:22,880 Speaker 3: bet the other way. 1771 01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:24,880 Speaker 1: So another Just ask me how I scored it. When 1772 01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 1: I was watching it, I thought, damn, Karine lost. 1773 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,439 Speaker 3: I lost my I was like, oh, yeah, I thought 1774 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,840 Speaker 3: this was a I thought Barboza looked pretty good, had 1775 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,519 Speaker 3: some good judo, some good top control, good jab for 1776 01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,719 Speaker 3: long portions of this, some pretty good pressure throughout. 1777 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,679 Speaker 1: But scoring was fucking weird. 1778 01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,679 Speaker 2: Oh let's talk about me. How Olek shay shock that middleweight. 1779 01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,360 Speaker 2: Two fights now with the Fighting Nerds, two camps and 1780 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,720 Speaker 2: he's got two wins, but none more disarming than this 1781 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,920 Speaker 2: big time ko of GM three, Gerald Meyershower. 1782 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:52,639 Speaker 1: Who's looking a little old too. 1783 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 2: He was looking a little old. Then some guy at 1784 01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,200 Speaker 2: the postfight press conference was like Pepper and Dana of like, 1785 01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,240 Speaker 2: you're gonna make this guy retire? Like, you know, like 1786 01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,719 Speaker 2: is this it for him? Should he be taking shots 1787 01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,360 Speaker 2: like that? Look he got folded? How much of this 1788 01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 2: is about me Hal going to a new camp? He'd 1789 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,120 Speaker 2: been through wars, he'd won something, he'd lost him. He 1790 01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,200 Speaker 2: does look refocused, sharper, and more dangerous. 1791 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:11,320 Speaker 1: He just looks more confident. 1792 01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,000 Speaker 3: It looks like he knows he can do more things, 1793 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,200 Speaker 3: so it opens him up. He's not so focused on 1794 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,439 Speaker 3: one way or the other. You know, is he beating 1795 01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,120 Speaker 3: guys that tell you like, oh wow, he's completely revolutionized 1796 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:22,400 Speaker 3: this game. 1797 01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:23,240 Speaker 1: We don't know that yet. 1798 01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,919 Speaker 3: This is a great win, a super solid name, certainly, 1799 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,800 Speaker 3: but the ease with which he dispatched him both tells 1800 01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,519 Speaker 3: me that I feel like Olak Shishek has really leaned 1801 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,400 Speaker 3: into what the Fighting Nerds have given him. Yeah, but 1802 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,880 Speaker 3: at the same time, I feel like Meershar. You know again, 1803 01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,960 Speaker 3: I didn't love the body language taking punishment. 1804 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,400 Speaker 2: He's got like eighteen losses too, Like he's been short. 1805 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:44,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been through it, dude. 1806 01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,720 Speaker 3: I may be off by thirty seven years old, which 1807 01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,679 Speaker 3: is not a death sentence. Yeah, thirty seven and twenty 1808 01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,880 Speaker 3: he is, Oh my god, Jesus. 1809 01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,200 Speaker 2: He's been through it. We got to talk in that 1810 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,440 Speaker 2: same division though. What was the featured prelim middleweight Bisingar 1811 01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,320 Speaker 2: Susa Kayev, who had won on Tuesday night stain a 1812 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,960 Speaker 2: White Contender series trains with Chamaiev, got the opportunity on 1813 01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,280 Speaker 2: four days notice against a very game Eric Nolan, who 1814 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,880 Speaker 2: was in a different weight class too, and stepped up 1815 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:11,559 Speaker 2: in the end. It would be at the end of 1816 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:15,040 Speaker 2: the round two that bison Ger would score this submission. 1817 01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,640 Speaker 2: He did get hit cleanly a few times. What do 1818 01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,920 Speaker 2: you make overall? It wasn't perfect. It was thrown together 1819 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:22,920 Speaker 2: last minute. There was a lot against him, but also 1820 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,559 Speaker 2: a lot going for him. I think overall this felt 1821 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:27,799 Speaker 2: like a win to show you that this guy feels 1822 01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:29,759 Speaker 2: like he's a savage and he's ready to over. 1823 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was getting tuned up a little bit 1824 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,320 Speaker 3: by a guy who's not even a natural middleweight, He's 1825 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:34,080 Speaker 3: more of a welterweight. 1826 01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:35,960 Speaker 1: Did they do how much were you scared by that? 1827 01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:36,639 Speaker 2: On his future? 1828 01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:37,080 Speaker 4: Um? 1829 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:39,760 Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't say that, Oh my god, now 1830 01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:41,800 Speaker 3: I'm panicking about him long term. But what I would 1831 01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,919 Speaker 3: say is, hey, we're not going to do the Homsat 1832 01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,519 Speaker 3: thing where we just rushed this guy to the front, 1833 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,720 Speaker 3: are we? Because it looks to me like he does 1834 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,040 Speaker 3: have considerable ability, But it also looks to me like 1835 01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,200 Speaker 3: there's some things that could be tightened up, and we 1836 01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:55,840 Speaker 3: have no need to rush him. 1837 01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,000 Speaker 1: Let's not rush him. 1838 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,680 Speaker 2: I agree with that, but want to see more of him, 1839 01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:01,800 Speaker 2: and I want to see more of him soon. He 1840 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,160 Speaker 2: talked about making another quick turn around as well. 1841 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,439 Speaker 3: As long as it's appropriate, you know, a level of competition. 1842 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:08,040 Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. 1843 01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,280 Speaker 2: I hear you on that one. Anything else you want 1844 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:10,880 Speaker 2: to point to on this? 1845 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,479 Speaker 1: Joseph Morales won the Ultimate Fighter? Are great? Does it 1846 01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:14,160 Speaker 1: matter anymore? 1847 01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 4: No? 1848 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:14,880 Speaker 8: Right? 1849 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,760 Speaker 2: There you go, now, Luke, you got anything to say? 1850 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,240 Speaker 4: It was an upset for Joseph Morales also another UFC 1851 01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,240 Speaker 4: veteran to win tough. I think that's like the second 1852 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:23,880 Speaker 4: season in a round. 1853 01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:25,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, that tells you the show is doing great now. 1854 01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, coming to Paramount very soon probably. No, Actually, 1855 01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,440 Speaker 2: it's not that. In the Dana White Contender. 1856 01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,639 Speaker 1: Series, do and we don't know about Road to UFC 1857 01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:33,080 Speaker 1: do not. 1858 01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,200 Speaker 2: Have TV homes? Did you hear that was? Did I 1859 01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,840 Speaker 2: hear accurately that Paramount chose to pay more to not 1860 01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,080 Speaker 2: have to take the power slab? 1861 01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:40,360 Speaker 13: No? 1862 01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:41,400 Speaker 2: I think I actually heard that. 1863 01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,400 Speaker 1: I think I actually heard They're like, we hate that 1864 01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,880 Speaker 1: so fucking much. We're gonna give you money to stop 1865 01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:50,160 Speaker 1: asking if that's true. Like, hell yeah, dude, nobody wants 1866 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:51,599 Speaker 1: that shit. Hell yeah, nobody else? 1867 01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:55,760 Speaker 2: Right, Wow, loved it all right? Topic number five, Hey, 1868 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,240 Speaker 2: the heavyweight division is has a new hope certainly and 1869 01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:03,160 Speaker 2: uh twenty year old Moses Etauma who stepped up his 1870 01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,240 Speaker 2: level of competition aggressively in the form of thirty seven 1871 01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,240 Speaker 2: year old Dillion White in just his thirteenth pro fight. 1872 01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,600 Speaker 2: But now we will continue to have this discussion of 1873 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,320 Speaker 2: is he ready should he go for it all now 1874 01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,760 Speaker 2: with undisputed champion Alexander Usik because it took less than 1875 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:22,840 Speaker 2: one round and the ease in which Moses Atama hurt 1876 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,720 Speaker 2: Dillian White backed him into the ropes, and then was 1877 01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,800 Speaker 2: both patient and aggressive at the same time. Somehow and 1878 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:32,479 Speaker 2: just how he lit up White with combinations dropped him 1879 01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,840 Speaker 2: once White stumbled upon beating the ten count, fell into 1880 01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,960 Speaker 2: the ropes and the fight was waved off. Luke Thomas, 1881 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,200 Speaker 2: I know there's always gonna be that cynical part of boxing. 1882 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,200 Speaker 2: Twitter and they were out there saying, well, yeah, White 1883 01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,559 Speaker 2: was old and stop fighting bombs like blah blah blah blah. 1884 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,920 Speaker 2: I don't know how that is your reaction. I know 1885 01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,960 Speaker 2: we don't know yet about the chin, about the twelve 1886 01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:54,519 Speaker 2: round stadmin, about all that stuff. I'm not saying it 1887 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,200 Speaker 2: has to be usick next. But are you not entertained? 1888 01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:01,400 Speaker 2: Are you not excited? This kid is a PHENI offensively. 1889 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,280 Speaker 3: He's the Tom aspinall of heavyweight boxing, except he doesn't 1890 01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:05,400 Speaker 3: put his chin in the air. 1891 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,639 Speaker 1: He's much craftier. He is much dude. I watched this fight. 1892 01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 3: I turned it on because I was actually in my 1893 01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:12,960 Speaker 3: office and then I saw on Twitter They're like, oh, 1894 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:14,720 Speaker 3: they're doing ring walks now, So I pulled the fight 1895 01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,920 Speaker 3: up and I'm watching this dude. 1896 01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,760 Speaker 1: I cannot overstate. 1897 01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,840 Speaker 3: To you the ease with which he dispatched Dillian White, 1898 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:22,719 Speaker 3: not just when you can see like, oh, he landed 1899 01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:25,880 Speaker 3: two punches compy boxes two punches that White landed, and 1900 01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:27,479 Speaker 3: then of course that it only went a couple of 1901 01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,280 Speaker 3: minutes basically. But I'm just saying, when you watch him, 1902 01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,000 Speaker 3: he would effortlessly faint. 1903 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:33,960 Speaker 1: Dude. Can I say this about mosesy Toma. 1904 01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,400 Speaker 3: People are like, oh, you have to faint to set 1905 01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:40,360 Speaker 3: something up, but not everyone like fainting itself is a skill. 1906 01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,040 Speaker 3: You have to sell it, and there's a level of 1907 01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,960 Speaker 3: salesmanship and how good you can make it. Dude, the salesmanship. 1908 01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,400 Speaker 3: You had White looking at that, bringing his hands all 1909 01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,400 Speaker 3: the way down because the combos are so fast, so fast, 1910 01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,400 Speaker 3: and he's able to take these like big hard steps 1911 01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,160 Speaker 3: because he's athletically can shift his weight back and forth, 1912 01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,719 Speaker 3: so you of course you think it's coming. And then, dude, 1913 01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,400 Speaker 3: here's part two. He'll do that, get a reaction, go 1914 01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 3: to the body, and then get a tiny reaction, yeah, 1915 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,720 Speaker 3: and then build off that immediately, so he's able to 1916 01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,120 Speaker 3: make immediate reads and build, build, build, bill build. He's 1917 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 3: the best heavyweight prospect in all of combat. Sports buy 1918 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,280 Speaker 3: a million miles. He's fucking awesome. 1919 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:25,479 Speaker 2: He is so dynamic offensively it's ridiculous. And it seems 1920 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:27,840 Speaker 2: like at least seventy five percent of his combos have 1921 01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,440 Speaker 2: a body shot in it. Sometimes he leaves with me, sometimes. 1922 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:31,000 Speaker 1: It ends with it, yep. 1923 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,000 Speaker 2: So he is constantly leaving you perplexed where he is 1924 01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:37,559 Speaker 2: going to have a chance to knock out early a 1925 01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,639 Speaker 2: ton of elite heavyweights. So like, that's the real question 1926 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,200 Speaker 2: of like how much is too much too soon? For 1927 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:47,160 Speaker 2: all the talk coming in about Usik after the win Utama, 1928 01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,200 Speaker 2: it wasn't like he said he hasn't wanted. He kept 1929 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,840 Speaker 2: saying the fans can decide, and then he said, like, look, 1930 01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,799 Speaker 2: you know, he reiterated that Joseph Parker and Ajik Kabayel 1931 01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,920 Speaker 2: are more deserving, but he's willing to enter the negotiation 1932 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,720 Speaker 2: and put his name in the hat. But then you 1933 01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,639 Speaker 2: started to hear his team, particularly coach Ben Davison, who's 1934 01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,880 Speaker 2: still just twenty eight himself, by the way, and has 1935 01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,800 Speaker 2: already coached Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua in big time 1936 01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,920 Speaker 2: heavyweight championship fights. Luke, Now they're talking about, well, we 1937 01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,320 Speaker 2: would actually like him to get some rounds. First, they 1938 01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,360 Speaker 2: mentioned Jermaine Franklin, a veteran in this division who lost 1939 01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,080 Speaker 2: to Dillion White a couple of fights ago, that that 1940 01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,280 Speaker 2: potentially could give him a round. Some people are thinking 1941 01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,800 Speaker 2: Derek Chesora, you know a lot of names being thrown around, 1942 01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:29,760 Speaker 2: Deontay Wilder. What do you do here? He wants it 1943 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,559 Speaker 2: and is willing to fight Usik. Has he proved that 1944 01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 2: he's ready? No, is he was like the maybe the 1945 01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,240 Speaker 2: only one that could really really exploit and expose him. 1946 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:43,960 Speaker 2: Hard to say because we've never seen We've never seen 1947 01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,040 Speaker 2: him past six rounds as a pro, and now eleven 1948 01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,519 Speaker 2: of his thirteen fights in total have not gotten out 1949 01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:50,080 Speaker 2: of round two. 1950 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,400 Speaker 1: So what do you do? 1951 01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,640 Speaker 2: It's an attraction fight. Turkey wants it. 1952 01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,280 Speaker 1: He came out after it. Turkey is saying a bunch 1953 01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:57,759 Speaker 1: of bullshit. 1954 01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,519 Speaker 3: There is no good reason to make the Sick fight 1955 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,439 Speaker 3: except you just want to rush a guy because he's 1956 01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:06,960 Speaker 3: he is brilliant and he is interesting. But the notion 1957 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:08,840 Speaker 3: that like you can just put him in front of 1958 01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:12,479 Speaker 3: Usick and listen Etauma is dangerous enough where I think 1959 01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:14,080 Speaker 3: he on the right day, in the right moment, he 1960 01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:15,080 Speaker 3: could potentially beat any. 1961 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:15,880 Speaker 1: Heavyweight in the world. 1962 01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,400 Speaker 3: However, the risk you could run with him getting tuned 1963 01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,080 Speaker 3: up by USK over the course of you know, six 1964 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,960 Speaker 3: rounds or more is also real, and it makes no 1965 01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,439 Speaker 3: sense to do that. He needs a class of heavyweight 1966 01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,200 Speaker 3: guys who are young enough just to give him rounds 1967 01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:30,200 Speaker 3: b see and. 1968 01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:33,040 Speaker 2: Then not even like, let's not even go du Bois level. 1969 01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,639 Speaker 3: I would not even go to yet give me yeah, exactly, 1970 01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,720 Speaker 3: Like I know that the pressure is all there to 1971 01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:41,599 Speaker 3: rush him because you've got oh my god, you can 1972 01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:42,680 Speaker 3: tell what the. 1973 01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:43,600 Speaker 1: Future is going to be. 1974 01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:48,240 Speaker 3: Keep him busy, but give him the right names, give 1975 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:51,639 Speaker 3: him heavyweights that can push him past six and really 1976 01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,400 Speaker 3: make him have to lean on it and earn it. 1977 01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:54,559 Speaker 1: That's what he mean. 1978 01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,600 Speaker 2: Mike taught you that because there were actually guys that 1979 01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,120 Speaker 2: pushed him to ten and twelve rounds. Where you're like, oh, 1980 01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:03,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, he can't beat Mike 1981 01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,600 Speaker 2: Tyson's record for the youngest heavyweight. That's twenty years and 1982 01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,360 Speaker 2: four months. Tom will be twenty one in December, So 1983 01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,600 Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. There's no need to rush it. 1984 01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,879 Speaker 2: What about somewhere in between? What about Big Bang. 1985 01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:18,599 Speaker 1: Jiang you could do it. You can. 1986 01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:19,880 Speaker 2: You may not get rounds anyway. 1987 01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:21,920 Speaker 1: You may yeah, I mean he might do. The speed 1988 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,080 Speaker 1: difference between him and bang is going to be significant. 1989 01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:25,400 Speaker 2: Big a bang. 1990 01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know he's going to bang them. They're gonna 1991 01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:28,920 Speaker 1: have sex. 1992 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I cannot believe have sex. Let's go to some 1993 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,960 Speaker 2: videos here. First we have Toama's father laughing. 1994 01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:36,439 Speaker 1: Is this what we Yeah, you gotta listen to this. 1995 01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,200 Speaker 1: Listen to this ship the man responsible? 1996 01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:38,439 Speaker 8: Is it? 1997 01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:44,000 Speaker 1: Mom? He said, giant? Can I answer your questions? 1998 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:44,160 Speaker 13: Well? 1999 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:46,000 Speaker 2: Get you regret it that? 2000 01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:46,360 Speaker 5: Please? 2001 01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,919 Speaker 2: Oh you'll have about the waterlock? 2002 01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 4: Right? 2003 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:49,920 Speaker 2: My guy? 2004 01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's uh, he's weird. 2005 01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:53,640 Speaker 2: Dude, Come on you. 2006 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:54,200 Speaker 1: I love him. 2007 01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:55,920 Speaker 2: But even if he was, like if he was like 2008 01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,000 Speaker 2: our sidekick, you know how like inside the NBA eventually 2009 01:25:58,040 --> 01:25:59,519 Speaker 2: brought on check and we're like, we'll work with. 2010 01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,240 Speaker 1: The chemistry is let me tell you something. I've had 2011 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:02,280 Speaker 1: to take car rides. 2012 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:06,080 Speaker 3: With Garrett while he is a close talker, and he 2013 01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,840 Speaker 3: will share details you absolutely did not ask for. 2014 01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,840 Speaker 2: Here is Moses Atalma himself, reacting to this wind, talking 2015 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:13,240 Speaker 2: about the. 2016 01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,719 Speaker 19: Future because you know what, like a lot of people 2017 01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:17,720 Speaker 19: think that I want to be a superstar. A lot 2018 01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,160 Speaker 19: of people think that I like the bright lights, that 2019 01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,559 Speaker 19: I just like being a boxer. It's something that I've 2020 01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,720 Speaker 19: always done. I've been doing it since I was nine 2021 01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:27,280 Speaker 19: years old. So if I don't do it, I feel 2022 01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,639 Speaker 19: out of place. I don't feel comfortable with myself. So 2023 01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,799 Speaker 19: I'm not doing it to be a superstar or whatnot. 2024 01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,080 Speaker 19: Even Michael Buffer did came up to me that it 2025 01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,240 Speaker 19: came up to me after the fight. It's at Wembley next. 2026 01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,920 Speaker 19: I'm not bothered whether I fight in Wembley and you'll 2027 01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,400 Speaker 19: call whatnot. I just know that I need to box. 2028 01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:45,840 Speaker 19: I know that I need to do it. If not, 2029 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:47,519 Speaker 19: then I don't feel comfortable with myself. 2030 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,320 Speaker 2: All right, I don't need the music fight next, but 2031 01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,920 Speaker 2: I do wonder what Turkey's hard on for it will mean? 2032 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:57,559 Speaker 2: Can Frank Warren talk him out of it? If that's now, 2033 01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,519 Speaker 2: I don't even want yourmine, Franklin, because I don't think 2034 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,920 Speaker 2: Frank that fight. I would one in between where you're like, okay, 2035 01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,960 Speaker 2: if this person does push him to round six seventy, 2036 01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:07,479 Speaker 2: then at least we're learning something. 2037 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So it doesn't have to be Franklin and Wild. 2038 01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:11,920 Speaker 3: They're wild they're going to get well, that's a terrible 2039 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,800 Speaker 3: he'll fucking smoke Wilder. Yeah, somebody who can push him 2040 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:16,800 Speaker 3: a little is. 2041 01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,000 Speaker 1: What you need. That's it a Valeen. 2042 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,920 Speaker 2: I take that, even though AJ sent him to the deepest, darkest. 2043 01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:23,840 Speaker 1: I take that. I take that. 2044 01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:25,920 Speaker 3: He also but he's a bit chinny and this is 2045 01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:26,960 Speaker 3: going to have a speed problem. 2046 01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,040 Speaker 2: So here's promoter Frank Warren of Queensberry talking about what 2047 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:30,599 Speaker 2: could be next. 2048 01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,200 Speaker 11: It's a statement. You know, nobody's ever done that to 2049 01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:35,840 Speaker 11: doing And you look at what the fighters he's been 2050 01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:37,640 Speaker 11: with over the years. You look at the condition he 2051 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:42,559 Speaker 11: come in at. He was very confident. And you know 2052 01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:44,680 Speaker 11: when you look at these losses, they've been in to 2053 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:48,760 Speaker 11: real good quality fighters, world championship fights, and look at 2054 01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:52,160 Speaker 11: the hard fights he's given people to fight. And then 2055 01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:53,800 Speaker 11: you look at this twenty year old who've got in 2056 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,240 Speaker 11: there and just done something special. It doesn't say something 2057 01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,400 Speaker 11: now that you know he's like and the amount of 2058 01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:00,120 Speaker 11: fights he said. 2059 01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:04,639 Speaker 1: Right, you're calling him reptilian that, but he's got these 2060 01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,639 Speaker 1: bug eyes like it's like, dude, I think you need 2061 01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:07,800 Speaker 1: a good night's sleep, my man. 2062 01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:09,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, then you can figure out who's next. But hey, 2063 01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,519 Speaker 2: breakthrough win for a tama. Let's keep him busy. Let's 2064 01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,959 Speaker 2: keep this coming. Let's transition out from our five topics 2065 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,519 Speaker 2: to you the fan, because every Sunday night at morning 2066 01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,840 Speaker 2: combat on X and the IG we give you an 2067 01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,800 Speaker 2: opportunity to potentially be heard, especially if your name is 2068 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:28,200 Speaker 2: Flannels and JITs or dazz when you used to mahalo 2069 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,640 Speaker 2: are ass Hey, this one's called d MS from the 2070 01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:38,840 Speaker 2: Diggity donks. Well, that sounds like forced masturbation, doesn't it. 2071 01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,320 Speaker 1: That sounds like me when I get on X hamp 2072 01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:43,120 Speaker 1: don't get on anywhere. 2073 01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,880 Speaker 2: Please, let's hear the first question here. Do we got 2074 01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,639 Speaker 2: or see it from Flannels and just Yes, that guy's 2075 01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,160 Speaker 2: got great jesuit's Luke. Do you think someone like Craig 2076 01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,640 Speaker 2: Jones will be able to have a good strategy for 2077 01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:55,599 Speaker 2: to counteract homsat spat. 2078 01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,320 Speaker 3: Yep, I'm telling you the fact that DDP spent all 2079 01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,840 Speaker 3: of these times stuck in control positions is going to 2080 01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:03,600 Speaker 3: give people like Craig Jones, and not just him but 2081 01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,559 Speaker 3: others a sense of just reverse engineer. 2082 01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:08,160 Speaker 1: What do you do to have to prevent this? 2083 01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:09,960 Speaker 3: And what do you have to do once you're here 2084 01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:13,000 Speaker 3: to get to some kind of next place that you 2085 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,360 Speaker 3: have to be. They're going to figure it out. I'm 2086 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:15,920 Speaker 3: telling you what. 2087 01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:19,920 Speaker 2: If ank Elijah beats Herrera in the rematch, do you 2088 01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,160 Speaker 2: not see Chamaiah looking to uh? 2089 01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,439 Speaker 1: I think Uncliah mops up. Tamaiah mops up is an 2090 01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:26,360 Speaker 1: aggressive way to say. 2091 01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,599 Speaker 3: I don't think JAMIAV has I don't think JAMIAV can 2092 01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:29,639 Speaker 3: win three rounds against him. 2093 01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,120 Speaker 2: No, And do you think it's likely the UFC would 2094 01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,519 Speaker 2: allow him to go to welterweight? No? They want to 2095 01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,400 Speaker 2: protect Ilia Islam like they should, right. 2096 01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean right now is they're gonna I mean 2097 01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:41,439 Speaker 3: Islam as there are, you know, top guy in many respects, 2098 01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:42,720 Speaker 3: and I think they're going to give him some. 2099 01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:46,519 Speaker 2: Would you argue that Tamaiah's best potential blockbuster fight is 2100 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,000 Speaker 2: Herrera if he if he wins back the. 2101 01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:49,599 Speaker 10: Two O five. 2102 01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,560 Speaker 3: I think the biggest one he's got now is honest 2103 01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:57,360 Speaker 3: Strickland probably, but like in terms of like a real 2104 01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:59,160 Speaker 3: threat to him, yeah, but also. 2105 01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:00,640 Speaker 2: A fight with real meaning him trying to become a 2106 01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,439 Speaker 2: two division champion. Not that I'm saying you have you 2107 01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,720 Speaker 2: should do it soon. Middleweight, I don't know. 2108 01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:06,960 Speaker 3: I think Uncle Ave might win. Well, I guess we'll see. 2109 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:08,240 Speaker 3: I don't know what's gonna happen else. 2110 01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:08,640 Speaker 8: I don't know. 2111 01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,439 Speaker 2: I don't know, Cedar, Let's hear from this person, A 2112 01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,000 Speaker 2: man and his cat. He says, why does it seem 2113 01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,679 Speaker 2: that so many fighters in this generation have an issue 2114 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:20,559 Speaker 2: coming from other promotions to the UFC. We talked about 2115 01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:24,320 Speaker 2: it recently from the Bellator PFL guys. But history has 2116 01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:27,200 Speaker 2: shown mixed results across the board in all of the mergers, 2117 01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:27,839 Speaker 2: as you said. 2118 01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:31,840 Speaker 3: Earlier, Yeah, but also, like you know, multiple champions came 2119 01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:35,360 Speaker 3: from the Strikeforce merger, multiple champions came from the WC merger. 2120 01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,960 Speaker 2: Would you say the UFC, like New York City, is 2121 01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,200 Speaker 2: just a melting pot of different cultures coming together. 2122 01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:46,160 Speaker 3: Uh, different background, yes, although less New York, less racist 2123 01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:49,760 Speaker 3: than MMA culture, but which is amazing if you think. 2124 01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:50,519 Speaker 2: About It's true. 2125 01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,120 Speaker 1: But I would just say that again. 2126 01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:55,920 Speaker 3: I think that because UFC is in a different place 2127 01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,960 Speaker 3: than it was eleven. No, the Strikeforce merger was what, 2128 01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,519 Speaker 3: like I mean basically thirteen fourteen years ago, a long 2129 01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:05,200 Speaker 3: time ago. MMA was in a different place at that time, 2130 01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:08,200 Speaker 3: and I just think now you're just getting much more 2131 01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:11,799 Speaker 3: of the Championship caliber kind of pooling in and around UFC. 2132 01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, I was on a car ride to the 2133 01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:17,920 Speaker 2: Mohican Sun to cover a belitar card when that news 2134 01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:21,479 Speaker 2: broke which one oh the UFC purchasing Strike Force? 2135 01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:22,280 Speaker 1: I was, I was. 2136 01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:24,679 Speaker 3: I just got out of the shower and I looked 2137 01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:26,639 Speaker 3: at my phone and I was like, what the fuck. 2138 01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:28,760 Speaker 2: That's funny because you've always said, of all the things 2139 01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:30,360 Speaker 2: that happened in your life, you always remember where you 2140 01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,000 Speaker 2: were in two spots when UFC bought Strike Forces and 2141 01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:34,120 Speaker 2: nine to eleven. 2142 01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:37,240 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I was in my college dorm room. Yeah, I mean, 2143 01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:38,920 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to bring down the mood unit E. 2144 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,360 Speaker 2: I really didn't. On the row, Ok, yeah, I think 2145 01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:43,960 Speaker 2: I have good shit to for today. It's only you 2146 01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:45,920 Speaker 2: can judge that. I mean, I'm on fire lately. 2147 01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:48,720 Speaker 1: Fire is a strong word. All right, Well, you've won 2148 01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:49,360 Speaker 1: a couple of rounds. 2149 01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:54,599 Speaker 2: Let's see the next DM from Pentameter nine. As someone 2150 01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,320 Speaker 2: in attendance, I thought that this card overall was great, 2151 01:31:57,439 --> 01:31:59,960 Speaker 2: crazy and plentiful matchups, A very hype crowd, I'll give them. 2152 01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,040 Speaker 2: The main event was let down, but a major ce change. 2153 01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,439 Speaker 2: What is your pick for card? Of the year so far. 2154 01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:08,519 Speaker 2: I'm assuming he means in the UFC pay per view. 2155 01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,400 Speaker 1: That's a question for Long Island, Luke. I don't know 2156 01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:11,400 Speaker 1: what the answer to that would be. 2157 01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:15,400 Speaker 4: What would be if W three seventeen that card was Bangers. 2158 01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:17,479 Speaker 4: I didn't even I was camping. I watched it the 2159 01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:17,920 Speaker 4: next day. 2160 01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:21,120 Speaker 1: Oh, you're right, that was Ilia and Charles. 2161 01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:24,600 Speaker 2: What was the command on that? I can't prosia? 2162 01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2163 01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:28,439 Speaker 2: What was the other attraction on that? 2164 01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:33,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Peyton Talbot Diego Lima was Josh Van Brandon roy. 2165 01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:37,120 Speaker 2: Val Yes, okay that, Yes, I was in the studio 2166 01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,559 Speaker 2: in Stanford on HQ for that fight, like I was. 2167 01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:42,920 Speaker 2: I remember just feeling that like if the fights can 2168 01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:44,400 Speaker 2: all be if the cards can be like that? 2169 01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:46,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was it, and then Ilia came and just 2170 01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:50,080 Speaker 3: fucking lowered the boot. Uh yeah, I think the main 2171 01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,040 Speaker 3: event was a letdown, but he's right. I think overall 2172 01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:53,040 Speaker 3: the card was pretty great. 2173 01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well done. 2174 01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:54,320 Speaker 8: There. 2175 01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,479 Speaker 2: We've got another one from the d MS. This is 2176 01:32:56,479 --> 01:33:02,160 Speaker 2: from Stephen Armitt m Steve Armitt age eighty nine or 2177 01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:06,120 Speaker 2: Stephen Armitage or Steven Armpitt. I'm not really sure who 2178 01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:10,000 Speaker 2: laid the bigger egg. Cyril Gone versus Jones or Dillian 2179 01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:11,960 Speaker 2: White versus he t Wow, that's pretty close. 2180 01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:13,799 Speaker 1: Gone Gone was more selfish. 2181 01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:17,919 Speaker 3: Gone just Gon just looked helpless by making bad choices. 2182 01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:23,479 Speaker 3: White looked helpless at the you know, in front of 2183 01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,200 Speaker 3: a pack of wolves, you know what I mean? 2184 01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:27,479 Speaker 2: Like I love when when Dana's retelling history and he's 2185 01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:31,200 Speaker 2: like John Jones just be the baddest heavyweight active alive 2186 01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:33,519 Speaker 2: and Cyril Gone, he'd always like throw that extra line. 2187 01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:35,880 Speaker 3: And you know, yeah, No, Gone Gon's decision making is 2188 01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:40,559 Speaker 3: or White was just dude, he had no chance just 2189 01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:42,720 Speaker 3: seeing what just seeing what Etama did to him, It's like, 2190 01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:44,960 Speaker 3: you were never gonna win this fucking fight. 2191 01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:47,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that one. Our final DM 2192 01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,480 Speaker 2: question comes from a donk named. 2193 01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:52,360 Speaker 1: Taekwon Do no Taekwan Dude memes. 2194 01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:55,240 Speaker 2: Taekwon dude memes. I mean, it's hard to figure these out. Look, 2195 01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,280 Speaker 2: you know it, It is kind of hard. Why do 2196 01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:59,720 Speaker 2: MMA fans get so defensive when people point out that 2197 01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:03,280 Speaker 2: some cards are absolute nubs? Fans of the other sports 2198 01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:06,439 Speaker 2: I follow are always quick to declare some games as 2199 01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:10,800 Speaker 2: bad and don't lose fan status. Is that because fans 2200 01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:14,839 Speaker 2: of those sports sometimes aren't concerned with the trade jectory 2201 01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,280 Speaker 2: of the sport as much because sometimes in the fight game, 2202 01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,200 Speaker 2: like you are even as a promotion, only as good 2203 01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:20,960 Speaker 2: as your last free cards sometimes. 2204 01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:24,760 Speaker 3: Right, fight sports will always occupy a place where the 2205 01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:29,040 Speaker 3: degree to which they entertained you will hold more importance 2206 01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,599 Speaker 3: than they will in other sports. It's simply the reality 2207 01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:34,960 Speaker 3: and more sport in other sports, particularly ones where there 2208 01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,840 Speaker 3: are points involved, you know, the amount that is paid 2209 01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:39,800 Speaker 3: to just did you get the dub? Did you not 2210 01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,000 Speaker 3: get the dub? These are the things that they really count. 2211 01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:46,680 Speaker 3: Combat sports is an entertainment business. It's real sport, but 2212 01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,880 Speaker 3: it's an entertainment business, and there's just always going to 2213 01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:53,919 Speaker 3: be more focus on to what degree was the audience entertained. 2214 01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:56,720 Speaker 3: Your answers will vary, it will matter more to some 2215 01:34:56,920 --> 01:35:00,240 Speaker 3: less to others, but that general concern is always going 2216 01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:01,800 Speaker 3: to be higher here there you go. 2217 01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,840 Speaker 2: Still, we could use a few more American champions and a. 2218 01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:06,559 Speaker 1: Few more would be nice, wouldn't it. You know? 2219 01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:08,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you can say both things, you can, 2220 01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:09,360 Speaker 2: you know, you. 2221 01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:10,760 Speaker 3: Know, it's one thing we didn't discuss about in the 2222 01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:14,719 Speaker 3: UFC paramounting. I was thinking about the UFC will hold 2223 01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:18,040 Speaker 3: pay per views, for example, on occasion in the UK, 2224 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:21,960 Speaker 3: and they will obviously in October go to Abu Dhabi, 2225 01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:25,839 Speaker 3: but they've been holding them for the majority of their existence. 2226 01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:28,160 Speaker 3: They've been holding nearly all of the pay per views 2227 01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:30,920 Speaker 3: in the United States or Canada because that was your 2228 01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,360 Speaker 3: number one pay per view buying audience in the US 2229 01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:35,960 Speaker 3: and the North America more broadly. But if you're getting 2230 01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:39,439 Speaker 3: rid of them, why can't you just take your numbered 2231 01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,559 Speaker 3: events to anywhere that you want. 2232 01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:43,599 Speaker 2: I wonder if the time, the starting time. 2233 01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:45,439 Speaker 3: Mass starting time is always going to be a limiting factor, 2234 01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:49,280 Speaker 3: but you know you are freed from one big limiting factor, 2235 01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:51,880 Speaker 3: which is you don't care if this sells pay per views. 2236 01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that when you're saying, when Mark Shapiro is 2237 01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:59,200 Speaker 2: saying publicly that they want to simulcast every event on CBS, 2238 01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:01,519 Speaker 2: that could every number event, every numbered event, excuse me, 2239 01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,760 Speaker 2: I meant that, and and then that could really uh 2240 01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:06,040 Speaker 2: change that could that could stunt the growth of. 2241 01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:08,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit of a little bit of a 2242 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:11,840 Speaker 3: mixed messaging between he and Dana Whitey had won a 2243 01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:12,320 Speaker 3: quarter and. 2244 01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:15,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, I wonder if Dana just wasn't briefed up 2245 01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:16,120 Speaker 2: to the speed that he needs. 2246 01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:17,800 Speaker 3: People think that Dana is the one in charge, and 2247 01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:19,800 Speaker 3: I'm like that that's also a major party. 2248 01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:21,799 Speaker 1: I don't sure. I'm not sure how true that is anymore. 2249 01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:23,760 Speaker 2: Indeed, those are your d ms for the week. 2250 01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:27,040 Speaker 1: Hopefully now you have talked a Gangash took a gang. 2251 01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:30,720 Speaker 3: You texted me yesterday you were like, yo, bro, wait 2252 01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:32,040 Speaker 3: until you motherfucking. 2253 01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:34,200 Speaker 1: See not that is not what I did mention I 2254 01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:37,280 Speaker 1: had a good batch, though I had no breachers all weekend. 2255 01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:42,240 Speaker 2: Seriously sharing that with me so disgusting. I scoured the 2256 01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:44,720 Speaker 2: globe on yesterday for the highs and lows, the good, 2257 01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:46,160 Speaker 2: the bad, the ugly, in the in between, in the 2258 01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:48,639 Speaker 2: world of combat sports and beyond. This is a long one, 2259 01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,160 Speaker 2: but I hope it gets a good reaction from Luke. 2260 01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:52,760 Speaker 2: It's called have you seen my ship? 2261 01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:53,200 Speaker 1: Colonel? 2262 01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? Who a dress? Somebody's drinking. Hey, big weekend for 2263 01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,960 Speaker 2: Daniel Cormier, Luke. He got carried like a baby, not once, 2264 01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,439 Speaker 2: but twice by Hamza CHAMAIAV in public. 2265 01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:11,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's so fine. 2266 01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:13,680 Speaker 3: I saw people being like, Wow, it's really strong of 2267 01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:15,280 Speaker 3: Ham's out to do that to a three hundred and 2268 01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:18,040 Speaker 3: fifty pounds, man, I mean, and I'm like, guys, DC 2269 01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:20,040 Speaker 3: is a little fat, but he's not three fifty. 2270 01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:20,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. 2271 01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:22,120 Speaker 2: We will get into that in a second. Here's the 2272 01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,439 Speaker 2: second time, with DC commenting over video of it when 2273 01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:27,240 Speaker 2: they were clowning him for it on the UFC Way 2274 01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:27,599 Speaker 2: and Show. 2275 01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,000 Speaker 1: Can we talk about how Chamaiav swung you around like 2276 01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:31,280 Speaker 1: a little baby this week? 2277 01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:34,480 Speaker 8: One of was terrifying. 2278 01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:36,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, see that strong. He's one of the 2279 01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:39,760 Speaker 1: easily stronger than you. He's one of the strongest. I 2280 01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:41,760 Speaker 1: ever broke my strong Did you jump up or did 2281 01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:42,600 Speaker 1: you just know? 2282 01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:44,599 Speaker 10: He just picked me up? 2283 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:46,400 Speaker 1: To drop back in your hips and still? 2284 01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,080 Speaker 2: Whoa Hey, why'd you spread your legs like that in 2285 01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:49,360 Speaker 2: the air? 2286 01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:50,919 Speaker 1: I'm talking aboutself. 2287 01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:56,880 Speaker 10: You're a day You're like, hey, dog, That way and 2288 01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:58,360 Speaker 10: Show is the best thing that they do other than 2289 01:37:58,400 --> 01:37:58,679 Speaker 10: the fight. 2290 01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:02,439 Speaker 2: It is so very Here's the hilarious tweet here from 2291 01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:05,720 Speaker 2: super k Loo. In fact, Tamiah picking up Cormier is 2292 01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:09,200 Speaker 2: more impressive than Hogan slamming hundred the giants. Statistically from 2293 01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:12,040 Speaker 2: Rustlemania three, if Jamaiev is won a or Chimney is 2294 01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:12,760 Speaker 2: one eighty five. 2295 01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,600 Speaker 1: You know super Cow is like a big troll account right, 2296 01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:15,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. 2297 01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,800 Speaker 2: Okay, and uh Cormier three point fifty. That's a two 2298 01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:19,960 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five pound difference. But look the numbers 2299 01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:23,639 Speaker 2: don't lie. Hogan three hundred and two pounds andre five hundred. 2300 01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:25,559 Speaker 2: Look at that. That is much more much. 2301 01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2302 01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:28,200 Speaker 2: By the way, Hogan would change the story every time 2303 01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:30,720 Speaker 2: over the years and say he tore his bicep. Then 2304 01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:32,360 Speaker 2: the next story would be he tore his back all 2305 01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:32,760 Speaker 2: the way down. 2306 01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:35,160 Speaker 3: You know what that that C four sounded tasted like 2307 01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:38,840 Speaker 3: rather well, it tasted like how much Joe It tasted 2308 01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,280 Speaker 3: like how much Hulk Hogan loves the N word. 2309 01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:42,800 Speaker 1: That's how much it tasted, all right. 2310 01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:46,280 Speaker 2: De Gross also helped produce the sound bite of the 2311 01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:50,599 Speaker 2: week for this segment when he got Chimayev to say this. 2312 01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,200 Speaker 10: Well, look at me, but look at me, look at 2313 01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:56,720 Speaker 10: my face, look at your face. This beautiful black skin, caramel, 2314 01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:00,760 Speaker 10: Your skinful like mine. 2315 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:02,360 Speaker 9: It needs to be beautiful. 2316 01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:04,320 Speaker 1: What you need to be world champion? 2317 01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:09,559 Speaker 2: Like you're so crazy? Do you get say that? 2318 01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:10,680 Speaker 8: Oh? 2319 01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:12,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you are. 2320 01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:13,760 Speaker 2: Okay. That was a good one. 2321 01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:15,720 Speaker 1: That was a singer that was a decent line he did. 2322 01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:17,679 Speaker 3: By the way he shouted out, Uh, did you see 2323 01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:20,439 Speaker 3: he didn't shout out cader Off by name, but he 2324 01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,000 Speaker 3: shouted out the ca deer Off gym by name. 2325 01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:23,920 Speaker 2: Oh I didn't hear that? 2326 01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,120 Speaker 1: Going to be one of these times, It's just a 2327 01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:27,720 Speaker 1: matter of time. 2328 01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:30,800 Speaker 2: Wild. Here's also DC getting a little suss with Jared 2329 01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:32,000 Speaker 2: Katineer on the scale. 2330 01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:32,920 Speaker 1: Looks great for. 2331 01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:36,240 Speaker 10: If I had a body like Jared Cannon here, I 2332 01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:37,200 Speaker 10: would put oil on me. 2333 01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:43,040 Speaker 1: Oh my boy, that room I was just. 2334 01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:45,760 Speaker 2: Like I would hit the. 2335 01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:47,559 Speaker 10: Way in stage and just slide on my stumbles. 2336 01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:54,360 Speaker 2: All right, three fifteen at least right right? Also, U 2337 01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:56,920 Speaker 2: d C got sent to hell on social media by 2338 01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:58,400 Speaker 2: Jack Della mat Atlanta. Did you see this? 2339 01:39:58,600 --> 01:39:58,800 Speaker 5: No? 2340 01:39:59,360 --> 01:39:59,519 Speaker 1: Uh? 2341 01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,000 Speaker 2: The only way KO the pay per view company in 2342 01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:05,120 Speaker 2: Australia can redeem themselves. As with the DC mute. 2343 01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:11,640 Speaker 3: But you know what, people people, he he produces big reactions. 2344 01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,120 Speaker 3: And I have to say, out of all my problems 2345 01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:16,960 Speaker 3: with the various UFC commentators, I don't share a lot 2346 01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:18,439 Speaker 3: of the negative DC sentence. 2347 01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:21,120 Speaker 4: I like him as a whole usually, but he the 2348 01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:24,040 Speaker 4: last two cards, he's one he said, Oh that's not 2349 01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:27,080 Speaker 4: even under that's not even him a second later. 2350 01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm not listening. 2351 01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,240 Speaker 3: I'm not making an argument that there are not legitimate 2352 01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:32,600 Speaker 3: criticism do that all the time? Him and Joke have 2353 01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:36,519 Speaker 3: they have they they suck helium and have goofball hour 2354 01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,240 Speaker 3: on there. And also he didn't know Capawa was an 2355 01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,920 Speaker 3: actual martial art and I was like, holy fuck, that's 2356 01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:42,400 Speaker 3: kind of bad. 2357 01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:43,000 Speaker 1: You don't know that. 2358 01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:45,240 Speaker 3: But but but I think there's a lot of like, 2359 01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,280 Speaker 3: you know, going after him that I don't support. 2360 01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:49,800 Speaker 2: That was like the ESPN lady with the Barry Sanders jersey. 2361 01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:52,720 Speaker 2: That was rough as well. Let's keep it going here. 2362 01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:54,960 Speaker 2: Speaking of fat fellas, listen to this. Did you ever 2363 01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:56,000 Speaker 2: play Hide and Seek? 2364 01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? As a kid? 2365 01:40:57,439 --> 01:40:57,639 Speaker 5: Yeah? 2366 01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:01,760 Speaker 2: I mean how did that go? Well? 2367 01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:05,480 Speaker 1: Done? Right there? That's that dude Maton. Yeah, he's fucking hilarious. 2368 01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:07,840 Speaker 2: Luke, here's a preview of you trying to navigate your 2369 01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:11,400 Speaker 2: new e bike with your now that you're a member 2370 01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:13,320 Speaker 2: of think well his bike, bros. 2371 01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:16,439 Speaker 1: Or what's he doing? Okay, what are you doing? 2372 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:16,800 Speaker 4: Oh? 2373 01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:20,800 Speaker 2: Are your tires that big? 2374 01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:21,080 Speaker 4: Luke? 2375 01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:23,400 Speaker 1: They're thicker than a normal tire, but they're not like that. 2376 01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:27,479 Speaker 2: Okay, Luke, you know how much I love soccer. Finally 2377 01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:28,519 Speaker 2: someone tells me, like. 2378 01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:31,120 Speaker 1: You have interesting taste. 2379 01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:36,360 Speaker 8: That is, despite a twenty nine year effort by the MLS, 2380 01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:38,960 Speaker 8: soccer has never broken into the mainstream in the United States, 2381 01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:41,679 Speaker 8: instead being far outpaced by the NFL, and they're eighteen 2382 01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:42,880 Speaker 8: billion dollar yearly profit. 2383 01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:51,640 Speaker 1: It's because soccers. Doc, Do you think you're cool for 2384 01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:52,599 Speaker 1: not liking soccer? 2385 01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:53,240 Speaker 2: I mean I didn't. 2386 01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:55,160 Speaker 1: I didn't A serious question. Do you think that makes 2387 01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:55,599 Speaker 1: you cool? 2388 01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:58,440 Speaker 2: Finally someone spoke. 2389 01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:00,280 Speaker 1: Up, Luke, You're not cool for that. I hope you 2390 01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:00,519 Speaker 1: know that. 2391 01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:03,040 Speaker 2: Look, it's time for regional combat sports, where, of course 2392 01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:06,439 Speaker 2: anything anything can happen. Let's go to Tom Loffler's three 2393 01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:12,160 Speaker 2: sixty promotions. Watch this little piece of business between and 2394 01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:16,680 Speaker 2: Abel Mahia. They both go down. But watch Mahia here. 2395 01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:23,479 Speaker 1: After he rally, okay, putting it on him here, Well 2396 01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:24,200 Speaker 1: these are nice. 2397 01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,000 Speaker 2: He would get him out of the ship. They both 2398 01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:28,880 Speaker 2: would go down. We also saw a banger with that 2399 01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:32,360 Speaker 2: Philip Ergovich fight on the Dezonne undercards. They both went 2400 01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:34,240 Speaker 2: down in round eight and Kovich got up. 2401 01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:36,439 Speaker 1: To what about versus Ergovich? 2402 01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:41,679 Speaker 2: That's a decent idea, that is, can box a little 2403 01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:45,120 Speaker 2: bit a little bit, but not not as not as Yeah. Okay, 2404 01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:50,519 Speaker 2: let's go over to r X F M M A and. 2405 01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:59,160 Speaker 3: Like a drunk at a bar bouncer, when the ref 2406 01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:00,640 Speaker 3: says fucking style, they mean it. 2407 01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:04,000 Speaker 2: Luke, Now we mix together the unknown of regional MMA 2408 01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:10,360 Speaker 2: with some elder abuse. Watch this fight. I don't think 2409 01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:11,439 Speaker 2: we need senior mma. 2410 01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:15,840 Speaker 1: Let me see that one more time. We'll play that 2411 01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:17,000 Speaker 1: ship society. 2412 01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:24,360 Speaker 2: Good lord? Wow, all right, now we can transition into 2413 01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:24,800 Speaker 2: some actions. 2414 01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:26,719 Speaker 3: If I got paid nothing for that, since they're wearing 2415 01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:28,479 Speaker 3: shim pads, that means it's the amateur. 2416 01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:30,280 Speaker 2: Here's some bonus older abuse. 2417 01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:38,040 Speaker 1: It's on the card. Let's see says I've taken four 2418 01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:40,120 Speaker 1: ships today. That's what I said to you earlier. 2419 01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:42,720 Speaker 2: I know it's the same level of harassment. I mean, 2420 01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:45,360 Speaker 2: there's no lady's days going to be changed from knowing 2421 01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:48,080 Speaker 2: that now in a bad way. Luke, new game alert. 2422 01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:50,080 Speaker 2: Are you ready? I show you the way someone acts 2423 01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:52,679 Speaker 2: in a clip. You tell me if it's lame game 2424 01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:55,640 Speaker 2: or Hall of Fame. Okay, so there's levels to this. 2425 01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:57,839 Speaker 2: Here's their first guy in the elevator. 2426 01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:02,080 Speaker 1: But you guys going up something for you fart on this. 2427 01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:07,439 Speaker 3: You get one. 2428 01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:13,400 Speaker 2: Lame lame Come on, that's at least game, right there. 2429 01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:16,000 Speaker 1: No, you do that to your friends, not fucking strange. 2430 01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:18,320 Speaker 2: You do it to the first class section of every airplane. 2431 01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:21,519 Speaker 3: Okay, that is class politics and I should be commended 2432 01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:21,880 Speaker 3: for it. 2433 01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:29,040 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the concert. Luke, bring pitstick. 2434 01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,360 Speaker 2: Make sure that these disgusting people. 2435 01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:33,040 Speaker 1: Okay, that's game. 2436 01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:34,120 Speaker 2: Okay, that's game. 2437 01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm actually it's game. It's a Hall of Fame. But 2438 01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:38,599 Speaker 1: I'll play ball with that one. 2439 01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:40,599 Speaker 2: All right, right, this guy is lame game or Hall 2440 01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:43,560 Speaker 2: of Fame rating h going to get four meat rockets 2441 01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:45,719 Speaker 2: and a dipping plate filled with mustard. 2442 01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:46,400 Speaker 1: That's Hall of fame. 2443 01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, he sweat and look at look at this man. 2444 01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:51,720 Speaker 3: He is ready to die for these glizzies. That's what 2445 01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:52,400 Speaker 3: I'm talking about. 2446 01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:52,680 Speaker 1: All right. 2447 01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:55,599 Speaker 2: We go to Washington in DC. Excuse me for this one, Luke, 2448 01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:57,800 Speaker 2: lame game or Hall of fame. As the cops walking 2449 01:44:57,880 --> 01:44:58,599 Speaker 2: on this guy. 2450 01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:01,320 Speaker 1: The fucker, oh the sandwich thrower. 2451 01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:06,639 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, here's a five dollars foot long bitch. He's 2452 01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:08,160 Speaker 2: just protesting. 2453 01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:14,439 Speaker 3: Jared people, protesting the cops down in the city, just 2454 01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:17,560 Speaker 3: like as like he became a symbol of resistance. 2455 01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:18,880 Speaker 2: Is that? What do you think you got to rate him? 2456 01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:21,240 Speaker 3: Oh that's a Hall of fame. Oh yeah, they charged 2457 01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:22,400 Speaker 3: him with a fucking felony for that. 2458 01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:24,479 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm not surprised one more. Here's the 2459 01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:25,800 Speaker 2: Yankee security guard. 2460 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:34,920 Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, all mother fucking fame. He's keeping us 2461 01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:35,559 Speaker 1: as all. 2462 01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:38,680 Speaker 2: Right, let's circle back to UFC three nineteen. We got 2463 01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:41,840 Speaker 2: a nice Chama flex in the crowd. Rate that tat 2464 01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:42,920 Speaker 2: his right bicep. 2465 01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:46,360 Speaker 1: Luke Um, that's a five out of four out of ten. 2466 01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:47,880 Speaker 2: Okay, you're right with this. 2467 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,439 Speaker 3: I mean, here's the thing. Obviously, becoming a champion, getting 2468 01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:54,000 Speaker 3: the belt tattooed. It conceptually sounds good, but the execution 2469 01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:55,000 Speaker 3: of that is real ass. 2470 01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:58,479 Speaker 2: So here's the Chase Hooper video I was talking about 2471 01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:00,760 Speaker 2: from embedded. Maybe we should have saw this as a 2472 01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:01,360 Speaker 2: warning sign. 2473 01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:04,639 Speaker 5: There's been a lot of memes this week about me being, 2474 01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:07,519 Speaker 5: you know, on the hood side. This one, you know, 2475 01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:10,960 Speaker 5: added me into the lineup on the hood guys on 2476 01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:14,240 Speaker 5: the card you want to help me fit the do 2477 01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:18,439 Speaker 5: rag on you on. I feel like I'm proposing. 2478 01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:22,960 Speaker 1: This is me co signing him wearing a do bat. 2479 01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:26,840 Speaker 1: So anybody some racers and moms around. He was co 2480 01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:27,519 Speaker 1: signed by a. 2481 01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:35,120 Speaker 5: HOOD official, certified now Night Chase. I think I'm certified now, so. 2482 01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:38,120 Speaker 1: Certified. 2483 01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:44,160 Speaker 2: Look, he went Hood, he got KO afterwards, so that 2484 01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:47,680 Speaker 2: was most wanted he Uh. It also reminds me of 2485 01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:51,040 Speaker 2: uh mister McMahon during his run as e c W 2486 01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:53,519 Speaker 2: champion when he would drop the N word. Luke, I mean, 2487 01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:56,280 Speaker 2: prosty is just absurd, right, Oh you don't know that 2488 01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:58,479 Speaker 2: famous clip to John Cena, like, what's up? 2489 01:46:58,520 --> 01:46:59,519 Speaker 1: My my? 2490 01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was part of the storyline apparently, Luke. 2491 01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:06,519 Speaker 1: Dude. W W is a gross ass company, isn't it. 2492 01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, Speaking of the way and show, they had 2493 01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:12,479 Speaker 2: John Anny play f Mary Kill. I think you're like this. 2494 01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:16,400 Speaker 3: You have Brian Stan, you have Daniel Cormier, and you 2495 01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:17,479 Speaker 3: have Dominant Cruz. 2496 01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:21,840 Speaker 1: You know the game f Mary Kill. Let's go John Kill. 2497 01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:23,960 Speaker 2: With one of these gentlemen here. 2498 01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,479 Speaker 4: I mean, theoretically speaking, let's say straight it on a 2499 01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:27,160 Speaker 4: desert island. 2500 01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:29,680 Speaker 17: So I mean, I'm definitely marrying Brian Stan. I think 2501 01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:32,360 Speaker 17: that goes without saying that's. 2502 01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:34,080 Speaker 2: A platonic relationship. 2503 01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:36,360 Speaker 17: Platonic relationship though, stand because I do not want to 2504 01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:40,439 Speaker 17: sleep with you. You know, be too hard, DC, be too 2505 01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:42,960 Speaker 17: hard to kill, you know, so I think I try 2506 01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:45,320 Speaker 17: to kill Cruz and uh we we'll have you know, 2507 01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:52,080 Speaker 17: our one night stand and move on with it, you guys, 2508 01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:55,280 Speaker 17: man of all the questions I expected here today. Yes, 2509 01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:57,400 Speaker 17: this is the biggest fight of the year, our main event. 2510 01:47:57,680 --> 01:47:58,439 Speaker 17: I did not expect. 2511 01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:00,680 Speaker 2: You have to sleep with this a different way and 2512 01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:04,800 Speaker 2: show tho ago it is? Oh yeah, hey, DC, Room 2513 01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:10,479 Speaker 2: eighteen o two. I'll played Byanic right there, dude, you 2514 01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:12,439 Speaker 2: get stand back? Is he gonna be announcing fights? 2515 01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:14,679 Speaker 1: I would love for him to do that. I don't 2516 01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:16,200 Speaker 1: know he has another job still, I don't know. 2517 01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:18,240 Speaker 2: That was awesome to see right there. All right, I 2518 01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:21,000 Speaker 2: lost my spot and then let's keep the fun going 2519 01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:23,280 Speaker 2: here to here we go. You know, if we put 2520 01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:25,760 Speaker 2: a punch punch bag machine, you know where you rate 2521 01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:28,160 Speaker 2: your power, you'll let you'll usually end up in this segment. 2522 01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:37,960 Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yes, I'll come out. 2523 01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:41,280 Speaker 2: You choose something up young and choose something night whit? 2524 01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:44,920 Speaker 1: What the fuck? 2525 01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:46,360 Speaker 9: What is that? 2526 01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:47,360 Speaker 2: Scared of that? AI? 2527 01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:48,479 Speaker 1: What happened right there? 2528 01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:48,960 Speaker 4: Dude? 2529 01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:50,519 Speaker 1: Are you showing me? Fucking dude? 2530 01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:53,519 Speaker 2: I don't domestic I don't know what that was. Oh hey, 2531 01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,280 Speaker 2: it's time for your a question of the week. Let's 2532 01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,160 Speaker 2: go to Rick Ross on the Raid uncomfortable. 2533 01:48:57,200 --> 01:48:58,200 Speaker 1: I have another question. 2534 01:48:58,320 --> 01:48:59,439 Speaker 2: You won't mind me asking? 2535 01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:03,559 Speaker 1: You don't mind No, I'm a lift service person, so okay, 2536 01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:08,120 Speaker 1: I like the way that sound. But are you a squirter? 2537 01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:11,040 Speaker 1: Oh uh? 2538 01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:13,000 Speaker 3: You know I tried to ask that in an HR 2539 01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:14,840 Speaker 3: meeting one time and they didn't like that. 2540 01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:17,640 Speaker 2: You know you've seen that ship. Let's go to some 2541 01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:20,200 Speaker 2: rugby or Ossie rules football. I don't know, but apparently 2542 01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:23,280 Speaker 2: they do double oil changes in this game. This is 2543 01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:24,400 Speaker 2: some as rules watch. 2544 01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:27,160 Speaker 1: Okay, this is how you were conceived. 2545 01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:30,800 Speaker 2: I mean, what what is this? Playing a little as 2546 01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:34,280 Speaker 2: grab in the park with the the I mean touch, 2547 01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:36,280 Speaker 2: but what is this this? Oh my god? 2548 01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:37,960 Speaker 3: In Australia, I don't know if you know this, they 2549 01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:40,760 Speaker 3: jack off each other to males will jack off each 2550 01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:43,040 Speaker 3: other as a greeting. 2551 01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:44,639 Speaker 1: That's a true story. 2552 01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:47,519 Speaker 2: W Let's go to this meme. 2553 01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:52,679 Speaker 1: Okay. I just want to point out. 2554 01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:57,840 Speaker 3: I just want to point out that half of the 2555 01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:01,679 Speaker 3: humor on this segment is violence against women. 2556 01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:04,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it randomly became that today, but it's not 2557 01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:05,200 Speaker 2: a typical. 2558 01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:07,200 Speaker 1: It's a little. I gotta tell you it's a little much. 2559 01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:09,280 Speaker 2: All right. Hey, this week in facials, let's go to 2560 01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:19,920 Speaker 2: the or nothing a jet to holiday. But it didn't 2561 01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:20,680 Speaker 2: stop there, Luke. 2562 01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:23,520 Speaker 1: Let's go to the sideline was insane. 2563 01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:26,000 Speaker 2: Let's go to NFL practice. Watch how Pam Oliver? 2564 01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:31,799 Speaker 1: Oh, here it is back up quarterback Chandler Harnish throws 2565 01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:37,040 Speaker 1: and Pam Oliver wham. Let me tell you that was right? Okay? 2566 01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:38,400 Speaker 1: Are you okay at home? 2567 01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:39,559 Speaker 2: I'm trying to make. 2568 01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:43,560 Speaker 1: Are you in the problems at home? What is there? 2569 01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:46,519 Speaker 2: Let's go to the golf course and see. I think 2570 01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:48,000 Speaker 2: you have to yell four for this, Luke. 2571 01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:53,000 Speaker 1: It's solid contact. 2572 01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:58,439 Speaker 2: Right to the pebbles. Luke. Wow, that is great. 2573 01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:00,200 Speaker 1: That's why they call it pebble beach eat. 2574 01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:02,640 Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, let's we got to cleanse the palate here. 2575 01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:04,920 Speaker 2: It's been a little rough here. Let's go to cake lady. 2576 01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:15,679 Speaker 2: What do you got for us this week? Oh? 2577 01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:18,160 Speaker 3: Why don't you just eat the chair? You fucking goat, 2578 01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:21,240 Speaker 3: you billy goat? Are you gonna eat the trash? 2579 01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:21,559 Speaker 8: To you? 2580 01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:22,679 Speaker 1: Unbelievable scaring? 2581 01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:27,519 Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's very aggressive, all right. The only thing 2582 01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:29,840 Speaker 2: that can save us from that are crowd fights, Luke, 2583 01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:32,760 Speaker 2: Let's go over to the UH to the to the 2584 01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:37,000 Speaker 2: high level of the upper deckare it ain't work. It 2585 01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:37,760 Speaker 2: ain't worth it. 2586 01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:42,839 Speaker 1: People fighting other people from an elevated position. 2587 01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:44,800 Speaker 2: Did we learn episode It. 2588 01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:50,040 Speaker 1: Just seems like a bad idea. 2589 01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:52,360 Speaker 2: Have the high ground for a reason. 2590 01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know again, it's like shooting fish 2591 01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:57,759 Speaker 3: in a barrel trying to attack someone from an elevated position. 2592 01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:05,200 Speaker 2: Let's go to the Los Angeles Angels crowd. I'm not 2593 01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:12,120 Speaker 2: sure here's how it finished. Oh my soccer kicks too, dude, 2594 01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:14,800 Speaker 2: this is nuts today, right? Oh? 2595 01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:17,320 Speaker 1: Why did they let raiders fans into the game? 2596 01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:20,599 Speaker 2: I don't know. Let's flash back to my favorite MMA 2597 01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:21,559 Speaker 2: interview of all time? 2598 01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:22,400 Speaker 1: Is it heavy? 2599 01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:23,439 Speaker 4: It is heavy? 2600 01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:25,840 Speaker 1: And I touch it? Absolutely? Go ahead, let me get 2601 01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:26,439 Speaker 1: them tiptoes. 2602 01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:28,400 Speaker 2: I think that's in it. 2603 01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:32,519 Speaker 1: I don't think that's how that interview actually went. 2604 01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:35,560 Speaker 2: One more for you. Here's Grandma. 2605 01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:45,960 Speaker 1: You know that phone smells. You know that she whipped 2606 01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:48,120 Speaker 1: that phone out and immediately were like, wow, I didn't 2607 01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:49,760 Speaker 1: know we were at the worst. 2608 01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:51,800 Speaker 2: Think this segment has just run its course today. I 2609 01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:53,600 Speaker 2: think we you know, we found. 2610 01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:55,080 Speaker 1: You're like hero, We're just gonna look at murders of 2611 01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:56,280 Speaker 1: women on the side of the room. 2612 01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:59,000 Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to be non gender specific. You 2613 01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:00,000 Speaker 2: know everyone can get it. 2614 01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm think you need one more pass. 2615 01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:05,240 Speaker 2: So North Korea did approve that. That's all. 2616 01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:08,000 Speaker 3: The ship's amazing what the North Korean sensors will approve 2617 01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:09,040 Speaker 3: and what they won't approve. 2618 01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:12,280 Speaker 2: But they were against murdering for a while. But uh, 2619 01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:13,800 Speaker 2: all right, you can buy our merch by the way, 2620 01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:17,840 Speaker 2: Morning Combat dot dot shop, Combat dot Shop. There you go. Uh, 2621 01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:20,400 Speaker 2: exclusives for the end of August here. Uh, they're going 2622 01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:22,559 Speaker 2: to be there until they end. Two more sign posters 2623 01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:25,000 Speaker 2: left if you want that on your wall. Super washed dads, 2624 01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:27,680 Speaker 2: don't forget about the August exclusives of Vaping is for 2625 01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:31,920 Speaker 2: closers and Average Joe Art presents Morning Combat. Beavis and 2626 01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:35,679 Speaker 2: Butt had great stuff, evergreen content on Morningcombat Dot Shop. 2627 01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:38,719 Speaker 2: And remember mix and match the color choices to your 2628 01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:41,120 Speaker 2: liking or the liking of your children. And to make 2629 01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:43,519 Speaker 2: the show more kid friendly, maybe we should clean up. 2630 01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:48,320 Speaker 1: Do we have kids watching this show? I hope I 2631 01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:50,120 Speaker 1: don't think we do. We have wives? 2632 01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:50,600 Speaker 2: I hope not. 2633 01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:52,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if You're gonna have a wife after 2634 01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:53,599 Speaker 1: this show. Fair point. 2635 01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:56,000 Speaker 2: That's a fair point. Long Island, Luke of the Main 2636 01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:57,320 Speaker 2: Card Minute Fame. 2637 01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:00,479 Speaker 1: Rocking prop Quiz, prop is Fame. 2638 01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:02,880 Speaker 2: Check out that episode of Luke and I on prop Quiz, 2639 01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:05,800 Speaker 2: the new main Card minute vehicle. What can the people 2640 01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:06,760 Speaker 2: expect from you? 2641 01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:09,160 Speaker 4: For the rest of you can expect a new episode 2642 01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:12,320 Speaker 4: of prop Quiz hopefully later in the week. Contender series 2643 01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:16,360 Speaker 4: watch Along tomorrow, but breakdown and saticated. Well, so how 2644 01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:20,120 Speaker 4: about this for dedication Saturday? That Shanghai card three am start? 2645 01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:21,599 Speaker 4: You know I'm doing the full card. 2646 01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:25,280 Speaker 2: No, No, those are actually dude, you're waking up. 2647 01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:28,439 Speaker 1: You know what he's not doing getting married three am? 2648 01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:32,680 Speaker 2: You must be lonely, all right? You know what she said, baby, baby, 2649 01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:34,960 Speaker 2: that's he's cornering the market. 2650 01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:37,840 Speaker 1: How long have you dated this girl? Seven years? 2651 01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:41,360 Speaker 2: How long have you been living together? Uh? 2652 01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:44,080 Speaker 1: Three years? Four years? And what is she saying about? 2653 01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:46,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot of time committed the next step. 2654 01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,320 Speaker 4: You know, that's we're in We're in discussions, Luke, you 2655 01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:51,040 Speaker 4: know things are moving. 2656 01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:51,800 Speaker 9: Wow? 2657 01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah wow? 2658 01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:56,320 Speaker 1: Seven girlfriend, it's a that's quite a niche. 2659 01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,120 Speaker 2: What do you think about him? Cornering the market of 2660 01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:00,960 Speaker 2: lower end mm A, nobody is going to beat this 2661 01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:03,640 Speaker 2: guy to the live stream and this stuff is a 2662 01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:06,120 Speaker 2: livestream tough too, No. 2663 01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:08,120 Speaker 4: I will say Gaffs also helping me corner the market. 2664 01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:11,080 Speaker 4: Gaft did PFL on Friday even I didn't Liz car 2665 01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:11,520 Speaker 4: Moose one. 2666 01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2667 01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to Liz car Moose for that win. 2668 01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:16,080 Speaker 2: So she wins the tournament at women's what was that? 2669 01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:16,840 Speaker 8: Wait? 2670 01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:17,400 Speaker 2: Fly wait? 2671 01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:20,360 Speaker 1: Okay? And Alfie Davis got a big upset against you. 2672 01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, he beat him out of No, it was like 2673 01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:26,080 Speaker 3: a plus two thousand underdog something insane number. 2674 01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:27,840 Speaker 1: Interesting, he got the job done. 2675 01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:30,320 Speaker 2: What's next for PFL? Do they have more divisions that 2676 01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:32,080 Speaker 2: have yet to have the tournament final? 2677 01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:33,560 Speaker 3: I mean, the only one I'm really counting on is 2678 01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:35,320 Speaker 3: what they must have some more. But the one I'm 2679 01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:37,840 Speaker 3: counting on is the rematch. 2680 01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:39,400 Speaker 2: That's October thirty. 2681 01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:42,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the America made Off and Paul Hughes rematch. 2682 01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:45,440 Speaker 2: What do you think about Corey O. T Anderson friend 2683 01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:47,600 Speaker 2: of the program in the Comaane for the PFL light 2684 01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:49,760 Speaker 2: heavyweight title against double Zon. 2685 01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:51,480 Speaker 1: Above. 2686 01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:53,760 Speaker 3: He should win that one, and I big shouts to 2687 01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:55,839 Speaker 3: Corey he's a good dude who's waited his turn. 2688 01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:57,240 Speaker 2: For what room? Was he the beast in? 2689 01:55:57,920 --> 01:55:59,880 Speaker 1: It was beast in twenty five to seven? 2690 01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:00,360 Speaker 4: No? 2691 01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:03,360 Speaker 1: Wait now eight twenty five eight? I'm sorry? Yeah, what 2692 01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:03,720 Speaker 1: am I saying? 2693 01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:05,280 Speaker 2: Twenty four college? 2694 01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:08,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, do they whatever? College? They don't do math. 2695 01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:11,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, you're gonna beast twenty four to seven. 2696 01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna beast twenty Wow. 2697 01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:14,720 Speaker 2: Well there you go. 2698 01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:15,720 Speaker 1: Get that through. 2699 01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's great. Thank you for watching today. I 2700 01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:21,520 Speaker 2: hope that you'll watch us again this Friday, eleven am 2701 01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:24,080 Speaker 2: Eastern Time for a remote episode as we set the 2702 01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:28,680 Speaker 2: stage for UFC. Where's that card specifically this weekend? It's Shanghai. 2703 01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:31,680 Speaker 2: I like the cole Maine more than the main I'm 2704 01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:33,320 Speaker 2: here for Brian or takeo versus algia. 2705 01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:35,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, the main event. I don't really give a shit. 2706 01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:39,000 Speaker 2: About Johnny Walker against Uh, what's the guy's yang yang? 2707 01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:40,360 Speaker 1: The what is he? 2708 01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:43,280 Speaker 3: The snow tiger, the snow leopard? What is yeah, one 2709 01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:45,280 Speaker 3: of those mountain tiger or something like that. 2710 01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:47,440 Speaker 2: You can follow our social handles there. Please like and 2711 01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:49,920 Speaker 2: subscribe to this video if you are a supporter of 2712 01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:52,160 Speaker 2: what we do. It does help us make advances. Please, 2713 01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:55,440 Speaker 2: we like to make advances on people. That's about all 2714 01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:57,000 Speaker 2: I can produce for today, Luke. 2715 01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:00,160 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit scarred by that last segment. I'm 2716 01:57:00,160 --> 01:57:01,080 Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you. 2717 01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:03,480 Speaker 2: I mean, the art on this show is meant to 2718 01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:05,360 Speaker 2: move you, but it's never a guarantee that it will 2719 01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:07,000 Speaker 2: move you in the direction you think coming in. 2720 01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope you recover. 2721 01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that was more violent than some of the 2722 01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:13,680 Speaker 3: pornography that you watched. 2723 01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:16,320 Speaker 2: So what was the point of no return? The soccer 2724 01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:18,520 Speaker 2: kick in the crowd or Pam Oliver? 2725 01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:20,640 Speaker 3: I think the guy just turning around after the punch 2726 01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:22,880 Speaker 3: machine and being like, I'm just gonna assault this random 2727 01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:24,560 Speaker 3: woman that seems. 2728 01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:25,240 Speaker 1: To be a skip. 2729 01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:28,760 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think that could a hap. Well, it 2730 01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:30,400 Speaker 2: could happen, but I don't think definitely. I don't think 2731 01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:31,040 Speaker 2: it's getting out there. 2732 01:57:31,080 --> 01:57:33,760 Speaker 3: As like soccer kick at the Angels game was was 2733 01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:35,800 Speaker 3: was not great. 2734 01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:37,680 Speaker 1: I give that an as. 2735 01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:41,920 Speaker 2: I mean, Cake lady coming out this week with the 2736 01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:42,760 Speaker 2: toes was something. 2737 01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to fly to wherever she's from have a 2738 01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:45,800 Speaker 1: word with her. 2739 01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:48,080 Speaker 2: Do you think she would accept an offer to be 2740 01:57:48,120 --> 01:57:50,120 Speaker 2: on the show as a guest or would that you would? 2741 01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:53,080 Speaker 1: Probably I've called her bad names. Yeah, I don't know. 2742 01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:55,520 Speaker 2: All right, Hey, that's all we got for you today 2743 01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:57,480 Speaker 2: for Long Island, Luke and LT I'm the BC. 2744 01:57:57,720 --> 01:57:59,200 Speaker 1: How many buildos are in that bag? 2745 01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:01,520 Speaker 2: Thank you for playing. I will not return home. Finally, 2746 01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:05,360 Speaker 2: after this, I gotta jump on the train Osborne style. 2747 01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:07,080 Speaker 2: We out. Yeah,