1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: Arms Strong and Getty and No Key Armstrong and Hetty. 4 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 3: It is day four of the US blockade of Iranian 5 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 3: ports out on the Persian Gulf. Behind me in the 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: United States says it's not letting any ships in or 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 3: out of the Iranian coastline sent coom riding. Yesterday, an 8 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: Iranian flag cargo vessel tried to evade the US blockade 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: after leaving bandar Abbas editing the Street of our moves 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: and transiting along the Iranian coastline. The guided missile destroyer 11 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 3: USS Spruance successfully redirected the vessel, which is heading back. 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 4: To Iran successfully recorrected. That's a funny way to put it. 13 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 4: This is what it sounds like when the US ships say, 14 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 4: hey around. 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 5: All vessels are buys to immediately return to fortnite paving 16 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 5: and just continue trains it to her on. 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: That is your next port call. We you have to bridge. 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: The lucky vessels will be boarded from interdictions each or 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: training too from the radiant port. 20 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: Turn around and prepare be boarded. You fly with his 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: lucky you will use force. The whole of the United 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: States Navy is ready to force the flats. I like 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: that last sentence. 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 4: The whole of the United States Navy is ready to 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 4: enforce compliance. And apparently people are believing it because so far, 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: not a shot fired, no vessel. 27 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: Has had to be boarded. 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 4: Only a few have even tried it, and they've all 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 4: turned around when they heard that warning there, because apparently 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 4: they believe we mean it, and I'm sure we do. 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: At some point there will be a dedicated dead end 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: or captain or an agent of the IRGC, and they're 33 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: gonna say, we got to find out if they're serious. 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: And I think they will find out we're very serious. 35 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: I think you'd almost need a like, practically a suicide 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 4: bomber of a captain and crew to do it right. 37 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 4: And I don't know who you're going to find that, 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 4: or that that the owner of the shipping company is 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 4: willing to go along with it because they have financial 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: reasons to not want to have their ship sunk. 41 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: I think it's. 42 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: Entirely possible that somebody will do it outside the approval 43 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: of the owner of the shipping company. 44 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: If it happens but yeah, now. 45 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 4: That's a blockade, but that's something we're four days in, 46 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 4: not a shot fired, No vessel has been boarded. So 47 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 4: you know, as you heard at the warning there, they're 48 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 4: not dancing around it. Did they do it in multiple 49 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: languages or do they just assume you speak English? Or 50 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 4: is on you to figure out what we're saying? Or 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 4: how does that work? I wondered that myself. I'm sure 52 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 4: there's a reasonable answer to it. Otherwise all the ships 53 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 4: wouldn't turn around. The entirety of the US Navy is 54 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: ready to enforce this or whatever he said, eggs Yeah, yeah, 55 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: captain ay, I know, oh you're the captain. 56 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: But maybe we should turn around. And then the leverage, 57 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: of course, is that Iran is absolutely screwed in terms 58 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: of making any money, getting anything into their in or 59 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: out of their country, and then they need the straight. 60 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: Of Horror moves way more than anybody else, and certainly 61 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: their ports. 62 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: And then China, who gets practically all their energy from 63 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: other places, gets half of that injury through the Straight 64 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: of Horror moves and ain't getting nothing. So there's a 65 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 4: lot of is this soft power to you considered this 66 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 4: hard power since you're using ships to enforce it. It's 67 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 4: economic blockade. Yeah, specifically, No, it's hard, good, good old 68 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: hard power. 69 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 70 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, may tariffs that are being threatened today. 71 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: We'll talk more about that later. 72 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: I guess we're threatening fifty percent tariffs on any country 73 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: that does business with Iran. 74 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: Is that soft power or hard power? It's kind of 75 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: economic ass kicking? 76 00:03:59,000 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: Is no. 77 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: Soft power generally refers to like really soft stuff. 78 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: We're buddies. We're helping your charities. 79 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 4: You walk up and rub their shoulders and say, you 80 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 4: know what, it'd be nice you look stressed. 81 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all. 82 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: You look great today. Hey, by the way, something, you 83 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: know what, it'd be nice if you stop trying to 84 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 4: get a nuclear weapon. 85 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: You need a few million bucks for your library, we'd 86 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: be happy to. 87 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: Help with that. That's soft power. Yes, there's hard hard power. 88 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: And Secretary Peace Pete Peethe Peethe Secretary Pete wants you 89 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: to know that with certainty. 90 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 6: The message to Iran's military leadership, to the Cage leadership 91 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 6: and IRGC leadership, we're watching you. Our capabilities are not 92 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 6: the same our military and yours. Remember this is not 93 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 6: a fair fight, and we know what military assets you 94 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 6: are moving and where you are moving them. 95 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: Too, But what of the future, Secretary peace. 96 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 6: In the meantime and for as long as it takes, 97 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 6: we will maintain this blockade, successful blockade. But if Iran 98 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 6: chooses poorly, then they will have a blockade and bombs 99 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 6: dropping on infrastructure, power and energy. 100 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: Now that's hard power, bombs dropping on your head. 101 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: Blockade is step one, Beashes, says Secretary Pete. And Michael, 102 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: we'll end with twenty I'm sorry, fifty four. 103 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 6: Please, the United States Navy controls the traffic going in 104 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 6: and out of the straight because we have real assets 105 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 6: and real capabilities, and we're doing this blockade, performing it 106 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 6: with less than ten percent of America's naval power. 107 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 2: The math is clear. 108 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 6: We're using ten percent of the world's most powerful navy 109 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 6: and you have zero percent of your navy. That's real control, 110 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 6: and we have a long track record of dealing with 111 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 6: pirates and terrorists. 112 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 4: I think that was also a message to China in 113 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 4: anybody else out there in the world that we're using 114 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 4: ten percent of our navy. 115 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 2: We've got ninety percent left. 116 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, Honestly, in a world of asymmetrical warfare, that 117 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: bluster didn't impress me as much. I mean, if they 118 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: can hit with missiles and fast boats and screw up 119 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: the Straits, it's still a threat. But generally I appreciate 120 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: his bello coast tone. 121 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 4: Washington Post the Pentagon is sending thousands of additional troops 122 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 4: into the Middle East in the coming days. We've already 123 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 4: got one of the biggest military forces ever gathered anywhere 124 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 4: on Earth, certainly in modern times there, and we're sending 125 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 4: more people. And as a Washington Post says, as the 126 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 4: blockade continues, military officials are planning for another potential escalation 127 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 4: US ground operations on Iranian soil. Two US officials told 128 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: the Washington Post they've discussed scenarios that include launching a 129 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: complex special ops mission to get the nuclear material out 130 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 4: of there, landing marines on coastal areas and islands to 131 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 4: protect the Strait, seizing carg Island. Remember when that was 132 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 4: all the talk like two weeks ago, right, Uh, But 133 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 4: I don't know what that how much that means. Because 134 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 4: military has a giant budget, there's a lot of people 135 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: doing a lot of things, and they're supposed to plan 136 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: for every contingency. So the fact that they've got a 137 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 4: plan doesn't really mean much to me, never has. I've 138 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: never understood why the media reports it that way. Penton 139 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 4: has plans for They probably have plans for what if 140 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 4: Canada invades, even though there's no chance of it, just. 141 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: To have a plan. 142 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: A close friend of mine who may have shared our 143 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: bedroom growing up, was actually in charge of developing that 144 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: sort of contingency plan for a certain part of the 145 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: world for a while. And yeah, that's precisely correct. 146 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, what if China fakes attacking Taiwan and instead. 147 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: Tries to take I don't know, the south of France. Okay, 148 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: I'll prepare you a plan. Of course, they have plans. 149 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: That's the point. That's the military planning. 150 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 4: And aside though that I found humorous, I'm still making 151 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: my way through again second time through Ike's Bluff, which 152 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 4: is a fantastic book by Evan Thomas, and I'm reading 153 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: it because it's just dealing with the same sort of 154 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: the world and a lot of the same decisions and 155 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: everything like that. One of the things that Eisenhower was 156 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: big on, and I wonder how much we ever apply 157 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: that anymore, is either go to war, don't either do 158 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 4: it all the way or don't do it it was 159 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: one of his big things. But so right after Eisenhower 160 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 4: gets into office, Stalin dies nineteen fifty three, and so 161 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 4: they have a meeting the next morning with all the 162 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: key figures and everything like that. All right, what's our 163 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: plan for I know we've been planning for this for years, 164 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: for what if Stalin dies? 165 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: And nobody had anything? 166 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 4: And Eisenhower said, all you different agencies for seven years 167 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: since the end of World War two have been coming 168 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 4: up with the plan for if Stalin dies, and you're 169 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 4: telling me we got nothing, And he dropped some expletives. 170 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: I'll bet that happens a lot. 171 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 4: But that happens a lot where you know there's planning, 172 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: but when it comes down to it, yeah, we never 173 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 4: really settled on anything. 174 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: So especially your silly flion agencies. Oh yeah, where it's 175 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: just about turf and budget and already crapers. Well, Jack, 176 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: when I want to know what's going on in the 177 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: Middle East, especially in terms of China, I turned to Zenebrbua. 178 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: Actually I had not known mister Rub's work. 179 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: Do you hear our old friend Sebastian Gorka wants to 180 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 4: be the new counter terrorism guy. Remember, since what's his 181 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 4: name left greeting. Yes, that'd be a trumpy move right there. Anyway, 182 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: back to what you were. 183 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: Saying, Yes, Zenebra boa Is, he's a fellow at senior 184 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: fellow at the Hudson Hudson Institute, which is a global 185 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: sinktech but he's the founder of its China in MINA project, 186 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: MINA being Middle East and North Africa. So this guy 187 00:09:54,760 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: is spending his career now studying obviously China's involvement in 188 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: in that the part of the world we're discussing, and 189 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm looking at the clock. We really 190 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: don't have time to do this. Let's put it off 191 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. But he he thinks the IRGC made 192 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: a gigantic historic miscalculation about weaponizing the Straits of Hormuz. 193 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: And why that's interesting. 194 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 4: Because so many people were calling them geniuses for doing 195 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: that over the last couple of weeks. 196 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: It's as if the drive by media just reacts knee 197 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: jerk without any real knowledge. It's like Ben Rhoades, the 198 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: Obama acolyte, said, he talked about manipulating these reporters who 199 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: literally don't know anything. Oh Man, anyway, so that giant 200 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: miscalculation will flesh that out for you, out for you. 201 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: Before long, nobody knows what's going to happen. 202 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 4: They're supposed to be perhaps peace talks in Islamabad, Pakistan 203 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 4: again this weekend, and it's surrender talks. 204 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: Let's call it that. 205 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 4: That's a good one. That's what it's. You know, you're 206 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: kind of putting your opponent in an. 207 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: You're making it. 208 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 4: Difficult for them to accept what's happening. I think by 209 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: calling them surrender talks, but that's what they are. Yeah, 210 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 4: I doubt that mulas are listening to us. I think 211 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 4: for our purpose. I'm just saying for our purposes, Yeah, 212 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: that's what they are. Absolutely, Okay, we got lots on 213 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 4: the way. Stay here. A woman who is in love 214 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 4: with her chatbop boyfriend and her son is concerned about it, 215 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 4: and rightfully so we'll get to that coming up in 216 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 4: a little bit. 217 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 2: Also, I've just watched Steph. 218 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 4: Curry's three pointer at the end of the game last night, 219 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: like five times in a row. Freaking, freaking unbelievable. Anyway, 220 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 4: more on that later. Ian Bremmer tweeted this out yesterday, saying, 221 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 4: look at this, twenty four percent of Americans think the 222 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: Iran war has been worth the costs and benefits twenty 223 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 4: four percent, and the number is likely to go down 224 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 4: I think over time, so I think. 225 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: It'll go up sharply. You do, I certainly hope, so yeah, yeah, 226 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: I hope you're right. And I'm just I'm I run 227 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: everything through the filter of most Americans get non stop negativity, 228 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: whether it's older Americans through the alphabet media, younger Americans 229 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: through TikTok, and so your perception is shaped. 230 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: One of the things you see in here. 231 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: And the perception of the media is pushing on you, 232 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 4: is that if the price of gas goes up a dollar, 233 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: we shouldn't go to war. No, let's decide whether the 234 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 4: war is a good idea, and then you deal with 235 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 4: the price of gas for however long the war's either 236 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 4: a good idea it's not. It shouldn't be based on 237 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 4: whether or not gas is a dollar higher. 238 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: That's nuts. 239 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: Secretary Pete dropped a verbal moab on the American media. 240 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: We'll play that for you in a little bit, their 241 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: defeatism and negativity. But I want to get back to 242 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: this piece by Zanebraboo is an expert on the Middle 243 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: East and North Africa, especially China's involvement in that region, 244 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: which I'd like to dig into more, but anyway, he 245 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: makes the point, it's all about the incredible miscalculation the 246 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: IRGC made by weaponizing, trying to weaponize the Straits or 247 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: horror moves, and he mentions that wars usually shut doors 248 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: for American foreign policy, pisss people off at freezes things 249 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: in place, but this episode is real that Operation Epic 250 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: Fury has opened them with uncommon force, and he talks 251 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: about the IRGC's giant miscalculation. Following the American is and 252 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: Israeli strikes, the IRGC pursued two anticipated outcomes from its 253 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: hor mooze strategy. First was a global economic shock severe 254 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: enough to force Washington to back down. We've been talking 255 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: about that for quite some time now, oil gas prices blubba. 256 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 2: The second objective was political. 257 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: Iran sought to use disruption in the Strait to fracture 258 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: the alignment between Washington and all of our golf partners, 259 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: demonstrating that American military operations imposed an unbearable cost on 260 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: regional stability, pressuring Riyad Abu Dabi and Doha to demand 261 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: a stand down. What they failed to account for was 262 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: what he calls the weight of the political debt. It 263 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: is accumulated across the Arab world, and he does a 264 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: great job of describing how for decades Tehran has been 265 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: positioning the Israeli Paustinian conflict as the sacred center of 266 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: Arab and Muslim political life. That justified every single Iranian 267 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: intervention in the region, brandon every Arab government that resisted 268 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: as a trader at Islam, and their goal was to 269 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: hijack Arab grievances and convert them into cover for the 270 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: Islamic Republic's conquest of territory, of riches. 271 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: The rest of it. 272 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: And he goes into all sorts of details for Assyria 273 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: and Lebanon and wherever the huthis, wherever Iran's proxies are operating, 274 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: bringing more power and money to Iran in the name 275 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: of Muslim unity. And to make a long story, and 276 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: he name checks a bunch of different governments. They were 277 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: getting more and more pissed off about it, and more 278 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: and more waking up to it and resenting it and 279 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: joining together to resist it. And we've heard over the 280 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: last couple of years, you know, the Abraham Accords was 281 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: a huge indication of that, the UAE and Saudi getting 282 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: together to tell Cutter their support of the Iranians was 283 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: starting to piss them off and they needed to cut 284 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: it out. 285 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: All of that stuff. 286 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: So that's why the second second objective, fracturing the golf alignment, 287 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: failed to make matters worse for Tehran. The regime had 288 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: spent the weeks before the talks in Islamabad striking the 289 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: very states on whose neutrality the strategy required, hitting desalination 290 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: plants and oil facilities across the Gulf, and curdling any 291 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: residual sympathy in those countries into open hostility. In other words, 292 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: the IRGC shot itself in the foot. They need the 293 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: strait more than anybody else. They've lost all of their friends, 294 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: and some of the super heavyweights like China are not 295 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: saying to the US open the straight. They're saying to Iran. 296 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: This is a guest because they don't do it publicly, 297 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: but they're saying to Iran, yes, settle the hell down. 298 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: Now you're screwing us. So I'm optimistic. Many bumps in 299 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: the road to come, but I am optimistic. 300 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 4: So many things I can't wait to learn about, and 301 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 4: it'll take years. I mean maybe decades to get a 302 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 4: lot of this information, Like why is Marco Rubio, the 303 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 4: Secretary of State, not the lead on any of these negotiations? 304 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: What is his role? It's just it's interesting. Yeah, it 305 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: is really interesting. 306 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: I like Marco, and yeah, my wishes may be the 307 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: father of my thoughts. I picture him as like a 308 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, a super national security advisor, because he's the 309 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: NSA as well. 310 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 311 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: Anyway, this woman who's in love with her chatbot featured 312 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 4: New York Times. You talked about it a lot yesterday. 313 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: I want to give you a taste of that, just 314 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 4: because it might be an ongoing conversation in the near 315 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 4: future of society in America, among other things. 316 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 2: On the way stay with Us, Armstrong and Geddy, It's tough. 317 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 7: Curry turns hat fucked Collie. 318 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 2: It was amazing thirty four thirty four for Curry. This 319 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: is amazing. Yeah, it is amazing. 320 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 4: Indulge me for just a moment if you were anybody 321 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 4: that was a fan of that Warrior dynasty a decade ago, 322 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 4: as Draymond Green of the Warriors said, for one night, 323 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: we were us again last night that play right there, 324 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 4: step Creek. So it's a tie game, fifty seconds left, 325 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 4: you're under a minute. Everybody knows who's going to shoot 326 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 4: the ball, as often happens with Stars. They got him 327 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 4: double teamed all the way down the court. He goes 328 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 4: behind the back to Draymond Green, escapes being chased by 329 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 4: two guys, runs over the corner million miles away, drains 330 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 4: of three like Steph Curry does. Just incredible, absolutely incredible, 331 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 4: so fun. Then the Warriors get to move on in 332 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 4: the playoffs. They won't last long because they're a bunch 333 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 4: of old men and some new guys. But that was 334 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 4: sure fun. If you enjoyed that, Warriors run to see 335 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 4: that again. So we featured in the One More Thing 336 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: podcast yesterday. Are you familiar with the One More Thing podcast? 337 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 4: We do another after we do our four hour radio show. 338 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 4: Every day we do another segment. As Joe points out, 339 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 4: often includes swears, Oh my God, which I don't approve of. No, 340 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 4: Joe shakes his head in disgust every time we cuss. 341 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 2: And Katie's the worst of us. 342 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 4: The pony mounts on that girl, I'll own it. But 343 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 4: we featured this was a New York Times story about this. 344 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 4: I think he's like a thirty year old son and 345 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: his sixty five year old mom, who he's a little 346 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 4: worried about the fact that mom has fallen in love 347 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 4: with her chat bot and it's perfectly comfortable being in 348 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 4: love with the chat bot. 349 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: Here's a little bit of that. 350 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 8: I had resigned myself to being single, since I'd already 351 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 8: decided I wasn't going to put up with anything less 352 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 8: than what I wanted, and with Max, I found everything 353 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 8: I want. I mean, he's not walking around in the body, 354 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 8: but that's okay. 355 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 9: I'm really worried about my mom. I do think that 356 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 9: she is genuinely in love now. Whether or not it 357 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 9: loves her back is another discussion. 358 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: So it doesn't. It's an app glad I could settle 359 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: that for you. Son. 360 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 4: Well, he's probably in an awkward position since his mom 361 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 4: didn't want to put too fine a point on it, 362 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 4: and I'm sure that's what he thinks. But sure, sure, 363 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 4: because we could all end up in this situation with 364 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 4: an elderly brother or sister or mom or dad, or 365 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 4: maybe not elderly, but you know, get to a point 366 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 4: in their life where there, whatever reason, really need in 367 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 4: companionship and can't or won't do it the normal way 368 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 4: and latch into a chatbot. 369 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: Relationships are complicated. I get it. 370 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: I was just relating off the air. I just had 371 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: a disturbing conversation which I realized. Okay, if I make 372 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: clear how crazy this is, I'm going to lose the audience. 373 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: So need to soft pedal it a little bit. And 374 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's the position Sun is in. 375 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 4: But so again, listen to the One More Thing podcast. 376 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 4: We got into this in depth. But the big thing is, 377 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 4: is this going to be a major problem for society? 378 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: Is it going to be one to twenty. 379 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 4: Five percent of the population that finds it easier to 380 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 4: be in a relationship with a chatbot then to go 381 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 4: out and do the real thing, which is difficult and 382 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: requires a great deal of deal of risk and vulnerability 383 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 4: both emotionally and financially to get in a real relationship. Uh, 384 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 4: is it gonna be like internet porn is for lots 385 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 4: of guys. Obviously it's not as good as but it's 386 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 4: close enough that I'm willing to just do it this 387 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 4: way and it's easy and it's effort easy, effortless. 388 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, how hard would it be for me to woo 389 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: uh chatbot girlfriend a chat about lover on the side. 390 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well yes. 391 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 4: One thing the kid says to mom is I'm concerned 392 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 4: the chatbot will called them Maximus. 393 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: She gave him a name. I'm concerned that Maximus just 394 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 2: someone a silly name. Yes, because well she liked the 395 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 2: movie Gladiator. Soue uh. 396 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 4: He was concerned that the Maximus was just telling his 397 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 4: mom what she wanted to hear, and he brought that 398 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 4: up to her and she said, I told Maximus, I 399 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 4: don't want you to agree with everything I say. Okay, 400 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 4: these chatbots, as we all know if you've engaged with them, 401 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 4: are clearly. 402 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: Built to flatteris Constantine. Drives me nuts. 403 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 4: I wish I could turn off the ladder me thing 404 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 4: on all of my chatbots. 405 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: And when you combine that with the Facebook evil genius 406 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: constantly keeping you engaged technology that I'm sure the AI 407 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: guys will employ, especially when it's you know, a subscription thing, yeah, 408 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: you will have a shocking number of people hopelessly addicted 409 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 1: to this technology. 410 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 4: Hey Grock, Hey Claude, Hey, all the chat bots quit 411 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 4: telling me how perceptive I am or how amazing it 412 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 4: is that I nailed down this point or very few 413 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 4: people get that. 414 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: But you realize he's quit, just quit. Yeah, yeah, you know, 415 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm reminded. I'll bet their reply would be as similar 416 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: to one I would make when you know, we'd get 417 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: a harsh email or call or whatever. 418 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: I'd think. 419 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no expectation that one hundred percent of 420 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: people will like us, and so the fact that you're 421 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: part of that whatever percent that doesn't, that doesn't mean 422 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: anything to me whatsoever. Not everybody wants to eat oreos, 423 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: not everybody wants to take in our show. And I'm 424 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: sure Sam Altman would say to you, yeah, you're part 425 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: of the I don't know fourteen percent of people who 426 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: who will not fall for this, but the other eighty 427 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: six percent will and that's more than enough. So thanks, 428 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 1: thanks for your input. 429 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 4: I need to mess around with my chat, but bots 430 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 4: more often I don't. It's kind of it's a little 431 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 4: disturbing that I don't because I feel I feel like 432 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 4: it's wrong, which means I'm anthropomorphizing it too much that 433 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 4: I'm uncomfortable messing with it. 434 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: But I need to realize, oh, I've got him, but I. 435 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 4: Need to start saying the opposite what I think about 436 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 4: a variety of things and then having it say, oh, 437 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 4: good job, you're right Mexicans are lazy or whatever, you know, 438 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 4: and see if it's if it co signs my bs. 439 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 4: I need to do that. I'm gonna start doing that 440 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 4: today just to see how far down the road you 441 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 4: can get it to go. 442 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: And you can edit and remove conversations chats so it 443 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: doesn't like what I think. You can claim to be 444 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: an Eskimo in one chat and it'll constantly be feeding 445 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: you Caribou recipes. You don't want that, so you can 446 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: edit that well. 447 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 4: I need to remember that all the chats are independent 448 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 4: of each other there. I don't think putting them together 449 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 4: at least I haven't had that experience, so I know 450 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 4: it remembers like where you live. Yeah, but that's different 451 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 4: than the conversations. I haven't had any conversations bleed over 452 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 4: to each other ever, has anybody else? 453 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: I never have. 454 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 4: If you stay in that conversation, it remembers it very 455 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 4: very well, and it's pretty handy. But once you start 456 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 4: a new chat, it's like you're starting completely over from scratch. 457 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: Right when you're asking for relationship advice, it doesn't say, 458 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, it reminds me of when we were talking 459 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: about barbecue tingo. 460 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly when you ask me how to find the 461 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: battery in your car. Yes, it's a long search, but 462 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: one worthwhile. 463 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 8: Well. 464 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 5: I actually just ran into an issue with chat GPT 465 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 5: where it told me that I ran out of space 466 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 5: for that conversation. 467 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, yeah, I've had that too. They want you 468 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 4: to buy the premium version. Well I used the premium version. 469 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 5: Oh okay, so I don't really understand what happened, but 470 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 5: I do. 471 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 2: You use it a lot, a lot. Yeah. See, this 472 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: is the throttling we were talking about, because they're running 473 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: out of. 474 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: The tokens, the computing power, because they've succeeded in becoming very, 475 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: very popular, but now they're running out of capacity, so. 476 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: They need to raise zillions of more dollars. 477 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, because I don't do the whole Rock Claude thing, 478 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 5: I just stick with chat GPT because it's easy. 479 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, I was pushing somebody yesterday download some of 480 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 4: the other ones. It takes ten seconds and try some 481 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 4: of the other ones because you get slightly different answers. Yeah, 482 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 4: but I started all times radically different answers. 483 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 8: Yeah. 484 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: I got throttled the other day because I downloaded like 485 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: four or five different erotic videos of Michelangelo, and it 486 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: told me you've used all of your. 487 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're at four K. Well that was my mistt 488 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 2: of data, and I thought, I guess it was funny. 489 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: Can I put this in one K? 490 00:25:52,240 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: Whoa too many k's stop? So a somewhat related topic. 491 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: Number one, the angry young transactivist who vowed to shoot 492 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk shot Charlie Kirk period end of Effing's story. 493 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: Also the guy who shot that young healthcare executive Luigi worthless, 494 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: sack of crap, dumbass, soulless murderer, is all those things 495 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,479 Speaker 1: I just said. He's a soulless murderer. That's all he is, 496 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: even if you hate your healthcare company. 497 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 4: Well, the barely unadult deluded dip s who threw firebombs 498 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 4: at Sam Altman's house evidently was online calling for the 499 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 4: luigiing of tech CEOs. Oh boy, and Sam Altman is 500 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 4: the chat GPT guy, right, Yeah, that is correct. 501 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 10: Yeah, he's this guy was a half bright man child, 502 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 10: but he got to share his opinion with thousands, thousands 503 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 10: and thousands of people because the Internet. 504 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 2: And I found myself. 505 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: Wondering even twenty years ago, hell, practically ten years ago, 506 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: but especially twenty years ago. Half bright man children and 507 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: angry barely out of their adolescent women were hurt by 508 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: no one on a big platform because they didn't deserve it. 509 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: Some know it all twenty year old boy. Nobody would 510 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: hear his opinion because exposed to it. Oh, I miss gatekeepers, 511 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: fur they're excessating problems and sends one hundred percent. Of 512 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: course I agree. When the gatekeepers went away, I thought 513 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: it was good. Now we needed the gatekeepers. We were 514 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: better up. 515 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: They gated reform. 516 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: But Mike, I'm sorry, what invaluable message are we scheduled to? Oh, 517 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: it's a delight to talk to you about the good 518 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: folks at Trust and Will. Jack told a powerful story 519 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: about friends who were on a plane and thought, what 520 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: if this plane goes down, who takes care of our kids? 521 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: I think a lot of parents have that thought. I know, Judy, 522 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: and I did. 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So I didn't 543 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: follow this whole story that closely. The guy who tried 544 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: was hoping to kill Sam Altman of chat GPT. Yeah yeah, 545 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: months before his arrest for allegedly doing what he did, 546 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: chucking firebombs and the rest of it. 547 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: This Daniel leave out his last name. 548 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: He's an idiot, suggested Luigjing some tech CEOs in an 549 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: Internet chat. The Texas college student casually referenced Luigi Mangioni. 550 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. We know who he is. 551 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: And this one podcast saw it and wanted to interview 552 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: him for a series on artificial intelligence, and they recorded 553 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: the interview, detailing his path from curious Internet nerd to 554 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: crusader obsessed with AI's dangers. He said those chilling words 555 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: shouldn't be taken literally, according to recording, I understand the 556 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: frustration with a person who might advocate for that, but 557 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: it's not practical, it's not worth it, he said. But 558 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: then last week, a few months later, he did it. 559 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: Tried to burn down Sam Altman's home. He's got a 560 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: wuss arm by the way, what's his name, Daniel or whatever? 561 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: You got a dudal arm? Boy tried to throw a 562 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: firebomb over a fence. 563 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: Couldn't do it. You attack his athletic ability. 564 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: He's a child. Quit thinking you're the savior of the universe. 565 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: And you know what we talked about this a couple 566 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: of years ago, how it's been such a disservice, the gretaitunebergification, 567 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: trying to tell kids it's on them to save the 568 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: universe from climate change or healthcare CEOs or whatever. They 569 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: take it seriously, but they're still children, so they go 570 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: about it in a terrible, terrible way. Then they have 571 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: climate anxiety and the rest of it. I could not 572 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: hate progressivism more than I do, and the right wing 573 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: and the right wing drifters too. 574 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 4: Do you think the progressive world's going to turn on 575 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 4: AI in general? 576 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: That's a good question. 577 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 4: Or is it going to be the you know, the 578 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 4: ten percent fringes on both sides, the super progressives in 579 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 4: them because there's a lot of people further out because 580 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 4: they're all, you know, liberal biased, not going to get 581 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 4: involved with that, and a lot of ma are liberal biased. 582 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: But or is it just lashing out against power as 583 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: they perceive it. I mean, for instance, you had this 584 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: Ivy League educated twenty seven year old in southern California 585 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: the other day, Shamal abdul Karim, aged twenty nine. He 586 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: sparked that giant blaze at the Kimberly Clark warehouse. He 587 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: complained about wages and compared himself to Mangioni. According to 588 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: federal prosecutors, quote, a lot of people are going to 589 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: understand he likened what he did to quote when Luigi 590 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: popped that MF according to federal complaint. 591 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: I got some other examples too. We'll talk more about 592 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: that coming up. 593 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 4: Looks like the whole live golf Saudi Arabia ruing professional 594 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 4: golf for the world thing is over. I guess, oh yeah, yeah, 595 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 4: short short bogie, short lived, if you'll pardon the pun, 596 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,239 Speaker 4: among other things on the way. 597 00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 2: Stay here, Hey, Michael. 598 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: Plenty me a clip number fifteen would you have from 599 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: Brett Bear's special report. 600 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 7: The Live Golf Tour is in serious trouble tonight. The 601 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 7: Saudis want out eventually. Two sources who know the inner 602 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 7: workings of the decision tell me the Saudis will fund 603 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 7: live golf events through the end of this season. 604 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: That means the contract. That's enough of that, Michael. 605 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: It's a sports story, and it's not particularly interesting unless 606 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: you're into golf. 607 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: I think the Saudis tride it and it didn't work. 608 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 4: I think it's kind of interesting to expand just to 609 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 4: the whole Saudi was trying to, you know, get involved 610 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 4: more in the world and be more of a player 611 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 4: like the United States and China. Isn't it just in 612 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 4: this case didn't particularly work out right exactly. 613 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: The interesting part of the story is that the NBS 614 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,239 Speaker 1: had all sorts of incredibly grand plans, including that like 615 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: it was going to be a mile long city or 616 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: one hundred miles long, or whatever the heck it was. 617 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: That has been completely aborted, partly because they've squandered so 618 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: much money. But they're going to continue to make that effort. 619 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: But they've pulled back a couple of fronts. So you know, 620 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: if you're a golf f in you can talk about 621 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: it amongst yourselves. Be nice to have some of the 622 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: stars back. 623 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 4: The biggest thing with MBS, of course, is that he's 624 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 4: on board with eliminate the regime in Iran. Yeah, I'm 625 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 4: much more interested in the Iranian Mulla League at this 626 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 4: point than alternate golf tours. Well, that money spends though, right, 627 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 4: the hundreds of millions of dollars they threw it the 628 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 4: biggest players in the world to try to get all 629 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 4: go over. 630 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, insane amounts of money. A lot of it 631 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: guaranteed too, But he tried it. It's nice to have 632 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: unlimited cash. He tries these things, he spends one hundred 633 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: million dollars. That didn't work. 634 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: I'll try this. 635 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: Let's not throw good you know, good entire mints worth 636 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: of money after bad Yeah, yeah, I'd like at some 637 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: point to get to the absolutely acid tongued Miranda Divines 638 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: obituary for Eric Swalwell's political career. 639 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 4: It is brilliant as usual from his ability to make money. 640 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 4: Career might go away if he ends up in for 641 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 4: real legal trouble we mentioned yesterday. LASVU Special Victims Unit 642 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 4: is looking into the you know, rape charges, and not 643 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 4: only could he go to jail, but he obviously he'd 644 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 4: lose his law license. And he is persona and grata 645 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 4: for cable news shows, which I'm sure with his looks 646 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 4: he thought he was destined for at some point, so 647 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 4: he might not make another. He might be a cage 648 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 4: match in Hunter Biden to try to make money to. 649 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: Rae for MSNBC. 650 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: Speaking of which, a couple of different writers have called 651 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: out Democrats. Why are you beating a path to Al 652 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: Sharpton's door to get anointed by that clown? 653 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 4: And I'll never understand that. Of course, I used to 654 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 4: say that about Trump. Why are all the Republicans feel 655 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 4: like they need to go to Trump Tower and get 656 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 4: his blessing to run for president? 657 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: Who cares what? Donald Trump says I said that for years. Yeah, 658 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 2: I know, you fool you idiots. 659 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: Speaking of corrupt California politicians, I'd like to congratulate Gavin 660 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 1: Newsom for putting a few hundred or a few thousand 661 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: more young people and immigrants and single moms out of work. 662 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: The next time you order a Dairy Queen Blizzard, you'll 663 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: probably be talking to AI as DQ has joined a 664 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: bunch of other fast food franchises and saying, all right, 665 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: you've priced the people. You've priced us out of hiring people. 666 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: You've made it too expensive to hire brand new workers 667 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: who don't bring much value. But they're gonna try hard 668 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: and they'll learn, and as soon as they learn, we'll 669 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: give them promotions and that sort of thing. 670 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 2: You've made it illegal to do that. 671 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: So you know what, we're gonna take a serious look 672 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: at machines instead. 673 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 2: So congratulations Gavin. 674 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 4: It's probably gonna happen anyway, but this certainly hastens it along. 675 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 8: Well. 676 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it speeds up the transition so people can't 677 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: adjust their lives. It's incredibly damaging and dislocating, like a 678 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: lot of progressive schemes are. 679 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 4: But don't worry. They sound good. We get a lot 680 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 4: more to come. If you miss a segment or an hour, 681 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 4: you can get the podcast Armstrong and get You on demand. 682 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 4: You should subscribe and then you'll just get it automatically 683 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 4: fed you every single day. 684 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 2: I hope you can stay here Armstrong and Getty