1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal. I'll that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: I want to be happy, you want to be happy 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: for Dake Edith State. 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: Is that whoo whoom? 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: And Dan and Ty. 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Solid Verbal, Boys and girls. My 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: name is Ty Hildebrand, joining me as always over there 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: in New York City, my good friend in colleague and 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: co host them many years. You know him as the 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 2: fine gentleman, the altar of Dan, Dan Rubersteinezer. How are you? 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm good, Ty. Can I tell you something that I've 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: never told anybody? 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: Uh? Sure, yeah, of course. 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: So for the past maybe three weeks, I thought, I mean, 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: it is my opinion that we've been doing we've been 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: hitting some of our best work, right. 18 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: I would, I would concur. 19 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. So for each of the shows these past 20 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: three weeks that I've recorded in the studio here at 21 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: Vox Media, the sort of multimedia room that I record, 22 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: there has been a string cheese wrapper on top of 23 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: the console. Okay, And I think it is some sort 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: of some sort of token, some sort of symbol of 25 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: quality college football podcast, A talisman, a talisman for whatever reason, 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: this abandoned string cheese wrapper has had the magic touch 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: for us. 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: So now if you pick it up and move it 29 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: and perhaps put it in your pocket, no can do. Yeah, 30 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: you got to leave it undisturbed, right. 31 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: Yes, that's the rightful place. Maybe I'll like a bronze 32 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: it and put it on the wall. Can you take 33 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: a picture of it and tweet it out? Absolutely? 34 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely, put that everywhere, just so we have record of it. Yeah, 35 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: if in fact this is the heyday of the saliverbo 36 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: at least in twenty seventeen, we need to have some 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: video evidence that it exists, right, sure. 38 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, irreversible video evidence, photo evidence. Boom, there it is. Okay, 39 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: I've got it. 40 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: So yeah. Week seven, man. 41 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't really hear that's the sound of 42 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: me patting myself on the back. Although if you've listened 43 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: to this show, I'm obnoxious, and you've sort of heard 44 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: it anyway through the headphones or speakers that you listen 45 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: to the show on. But I named the post that 46 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: this episode went in. Week seven is the week the 47 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: underdogs will feast. Yeah, right, the altar of Dan Altar 48 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: op Dan and is shining bright tie. 49 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and not only that. But to commemorate Week seven 50 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: in all its glory, I actually went to a real 51 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: Yako's Hot Dog's location this morning and did a Facebook 52 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: live video. Yeah, how was it? It was good? It 53 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: was empty. You know. I went at nine am. They're 54 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: not open at nine am. I'm sure they're open now 55 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: if I went. 56 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Oh, so you didn't actually get a dog? 57 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 2: No, No, I didn't get a dog. I was doing 58 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: this video thing so early that I went there, and 59 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: I crept around the premises as if I were some 60 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: sort of intruder casing the place up. But I went there. 61 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: I did a little homage to our home dogs of 62 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: the week, which we'll get into here. There were a 63 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: number of them that actually won at home despite being 64 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: heffy underdogs showed people the menu, showed people just just 65 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: the the aura that is Yako's Hot Dogs here in 66 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: the valley. 67 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: Nice. I appreciate that put some vision. I have a 68 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: picture of string cheese rappers, and you have a visual 69 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: of the Lehigh Valley that works. 70 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 2: With that being said, let's get into our Week seven reverbs. 71 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: The way we kick it off every week four weight 72 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: verbal one. We had hundreds upon hundreds of calls this week. 73 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: Good job as always to our friend Taylor for mixing 74 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: it all together. Have a listen. 75 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: Much like Jason Vorhees, Clemsoning never really truly died. 76 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: It just waited for. 77 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: A moment to come back, bigger and stronger than ever before. 78 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: Hey guys, it's French Tim in Brooklyn the Hornfron. 79 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 5: Hello from Caroline, your favorite TCU san Hey. 80 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: Guys, alex o Orange County. This is James from Texas. 81 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: Y'all, What the hell just happened? 82 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: What the hell happened last night? 83 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: To top ten teams getting upset? Is it two thousand 84 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: and seven all over again? 85 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 6: So we have to love Gus the test effects and 86 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 6: may I present to you the altar of a meme 87 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 6: after last. 88 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 7: Friday night, cow thirty seven to three, Freaky Friddy, it's 89 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 7: a thing, all right? 90 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: This is Zebra. You're a Kook fan. 91 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 5: In Milwaukee, and what the hell is happening on this 92 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 5: crazy Friday the thirteenth night? 93 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 4: I called in to tell you about my favorite Washington 94 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 4: State touchdown. 95 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 6: Go bear so correct me if I'm wrong here, but 96 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 6: I think Clemson just cooped it and Washington State gave 97 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 6: us a full blown Clemsoning. 98 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: All right, who left the door open to col Wazoo 99 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 4: the Pac twelve after dark got out and got all 100 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: over Syracuse and Clemson. 101 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: Way to go, dan Ty. So if you just be 102 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: Clemson outside the dome, we want Samma. 103 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: Let's go Mountaineers. Have no fear. Billy Greer is here. 104 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 6: Get a dude alert for mountain career. 105 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 7: I'm not saying that wearing my solid verbal shirt. 106 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: So we go Boston College game is the reason that 107 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: you have all lost, But I. 108 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: Am saying their shirt is cursed. 109 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 7: Syracuse defeated the national champions, Boston College beat the Heisman 110 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 7: Trophy winner, Yukon beat their conference chimp in Rutgers won 111 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 7: a game in the Big Ten. 112 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 3: Clearly, the Northeast is the new SEC. 113 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: We now go lave to Miami with Olly Williams for 114 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: the weather. 115 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: That's right up that way. 116 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: Just watch my yellow Jackets skip up what seemed to 117 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: be like eight bubble screens in a row for Miami 118 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 3: to convert on a fourth and ten miracle catch. 119 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 1: It's okay. 120 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 7: We're a League of legend school now. 121 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 5: It's better enough. 122 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 7: Washington lose every week. Both of these games all in me. 123 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 7: If you've seen Network and every single minute spawnsor boy 124 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 7: either bow j Angles or Mellow Mushroom, reminding us that 125 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 7: there are no bow Jangles or Mellow Mushrooms anywhere fit 126 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 7: fans live. 127 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 5: Kind of calling you talk about a t H win 128 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 5: before the game is actually over, So I hope I'm right, 129 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 5: pretty sure. 130 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: I am rumor sooner Texas sucks, but let's be honest, 131 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: Oklahoma kind of does. Also, it's eleven pm Pacific time 132 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: in Penn State. 133 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 6: Picked a great. 134 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: Week to be on a bye Oh, Arkansas. I'm a 135 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: Nebraska fan who's envying you. 136 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: I just want to give a shout out to my 137 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: LC Tigers. 138 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: Down twente a zero and they're back to pulling out 139 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 1: games that they have no business winning. 140 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 7: Go Tigers. 141 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 4: Watching the Eggs blow a thirty four point lead in UCLA, 142 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 4: I thought there's no way we've becoming out of Week seven. 143 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 4: Talking about a five and two A and M that 144 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: had a defense that came back and won a ball game, 145 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 4: just incredible. 146 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 3: Speaking as an East Coast college football fan, I'm not 147 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: sure why Chris Peterson wanted me to see this. I'm 148 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: a Husky fan and I'd love to start rub it 149 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: in the face of the Cougars that they lost to 150 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: a team that the Husky's destroyed last week. But my 151 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 3: team lost two in Arizona State, whose coach wears a 152 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: bastreet boy microphone. 153 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: This is Ryan in Africa and Heather in Africa. 154 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: We took advantage of the Penn State by weekend to 155 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: not just. 156 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 5: Have a window of opportunity, but a weekend of opportunity 157 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 5: with the little couples get away. 158 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: Just two heballers in love two for ballers and loved. 159 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: There you go, ight, I gotta say line of the week. 160 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: It's okay, we're a league of legend school. Now. I 161 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: covered my mouth and cracked up. You couldn't hear it. 162 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: I loved it. 163 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: Great calls is always four weight verbal one is the 164 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: phone number you can call, you can text. Got a 165 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: couple of text messages this week, so yeah, yeah, just 166 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: keep in touch. Let us know what's on your mind. 167 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: We actually had a guy called in a long time 168 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: for Baller to rant about how he thought this week 169 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: illustrated the mediocrity mediocrity now of college football. I'm assuming 170 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: he was kidding and that maybe I missed the deadpan joke. 171 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, but in my ten seasons in our 172 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: ten seasons of podcasting, I have a hard time remembering 173 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: a bigger weekend of upsets, you know, because, like a 174 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: lot of times, you have one or two and then 175 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: that'll be it. Right Nah, this week kept on going 176 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: like it was bad boys too, Dan. We had four 177 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: of the top ten, seven of the top twenty five. 178 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: Clemson was a twenty three twenty three and a half 179 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: point favorite, Washington and eighteen point favorite Wazoo a sixteen 180 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: and a half point road favorite. All those teams lost. 181 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. 182 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I couldn't. I don't want to stress this 183 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: any harder than I possibly can. Don't worry about there 184 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: being seven excellent teams, worry about college football being an 185 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: entertaining TV show. Excitement, drama, weirdness, wackiness, that's the move. 186 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: So it was a great weekend. 187 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: Also a great weekend to be on by or play 188 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: Nebraska FYI. 189 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: From funny to hurt fall. 190 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: So quickly, let's start on Friday night, shall we please? 191 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: It was Friday the thirteenth. Perhaps we should have talked 192 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: a little bit more about potential occult forces at play, 193 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: should have seen it common in the carrier Dome. We 194 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: could do perhaps entire show on the Syracuse Clemson game, 195 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: because there are about forty five million things to unpack here. 196 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: But I'll start off by saying that only one member 197 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: of the broadcasting duo had the gumption to look into 198 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: the teeth of that twenty three and a half point 199 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: line and say I could get a little weird here. 200 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: And who was that could be? 201 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: It wasn't me you. 202 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: This is full disclosure. This game wasn't on our games 203 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 1: to talk about lists. No, no, no, you brought it 204 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. I brought I mean Carrier Dome Week seven. 205 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: This was when Virginia Tech went down last year and 206 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: I had the gall tie to bring up Prince Tyson 207 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: Gully look. 208 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: And I don't even like watching games in the Carrier Dome. 209 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 2: I love it, I don't know, because they have that 210 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: super low camera angle into the basketball angle. You can't 211 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 2: tell what's going on, and it honestly, it's like the 212 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: exact opposite of a Purdue game at ross Aid Stadium 213 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: because there it looks like they're shooting the game from 214 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: the blimp. I don't love the camera angle, and at 215 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: the Carrier Dome it's just low and you can't tell. 216 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, Syracuse twenty seven Clemson twenty four, Dame. 217 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: I went off the road map with this because one, 218 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: it's just it's a short week for Clemson with a 219 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: beat up quarterback who got even more beat up in 220 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: this game. And Syracuse has this recent reputation of being 221 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: pretty underwhelming. But the numbers, the results have indicated that 222 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: at least offensively, Eric Dungee has been pretty productive, which 223 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: he was against a very good Clemson defense, And just 224 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: circumstance wise, it was a good spot. Clemson cut off 225 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: a game against a tough defense, and wake Syracuse coming 226 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: into this game. I think they played Pitt the week 227 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: before and this, you know, for this is our cliche 228 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: that we love like, this was Syracuse's home super bowl 229 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: type situation, so I felt like they would at least 230 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: give them a quality fight. They would give them their best. 231 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 1: That's the only reason I really didn't think Syracuse was 232 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: going to win this game. No, no, but look, we 233 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: both said at the beginning of the year, I was 234 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: all in on Eric Dungee. Grungy Eric Dongee right three 235 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: touchdowns also sixty one yards on the ground. He set 236 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: the tone in this game on the opening drive, through 237 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: the touchdown pass, really throughout the entire game, did a 238 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: good job establishing Syracuse as going toe to toe with Clemson, 239 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: not pulling it off with trick plays or anything like that, 240 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: but really running their game plan, running that up tempo 241 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: offense against Clemson. It seemed to take them a little 242 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: bit out of sorts as a whole. If you look 243 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: at this one, Dan, I think there's a tendency to 244 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: say that Kelly Bryant got hurt, therefore a fluke win 245 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: for Syracuse. If you watched the game, Dan, Syracuse just 246 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: flat out beat him. 247 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 5: It did. 248 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: They produced chunk plays, they came up with big stops 249 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure why Hunter Johnson didn't play and 250 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: not Zarah Cooper. But six minute drive Tye to end 251 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: the game, a six minute offense, twelve plays, twenty four 252 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: yards to seal this game. 253 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 2: That's like in Iowa offense right there. 254 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it is Mega Kansas State. It is like 255 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: there was regular Street Fighter and then Super Street This 256 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: was Super Kansas State. Yeah, I mean Syracuse beat him. 257 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: Eric Dungee, no relation all sensation. 258 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: Oh, I love that. Very good, very very good good win, 259 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: great win for Syracuse at home and kudos to Dabo 260 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: Sweeney who went into the Syracuse locker room to congratulate 261 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 2: them on the win. So cool afterwards, Really cool to 262 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: see he's all class. Sometimes he feels a little too 263 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: good to be true. Turns out he's just that good, 264 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: really nice show of sportsmanship, just. 265 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: Like Brian Kelly, only the exact opposite. Cal thirty seven 266 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: Washington State three. This was ty. We can just start listing. 267 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: So we kept getting tweets about our home alone reference 268 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: last week or the week before. Why has you got mcallistered? Yeah, 269 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: booby traps everywhere late at. 270 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: Night Friday to the thirteenth, Dan, make that spooky sound please. 271 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: This was the dreaded Adam a Mean game, which, honestly, 272 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 2: is there anything more ominous at this point if you're 273 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: a top ten team on the road than an Adam 274 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: Aman game? Yeah, kiss him death, play the game under 275 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: a ladder, Bring a black cat out there. It's bad luck, 276 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 2: the altar of a mean As one caller said it, 277 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: it's a cult. It's dangerous. 278 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts? 279 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: I am actually quite impressed by what we saw from Cal. Defensively, sure, 280 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: because they forced seven turnovers. They generated nine sacks. We 281 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: knew that Justin Wilcox was a defensive minded coach. That 282 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: was his calling card. Absolutely, I don't think anybody expected 283 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: that Cow would be this far along just as a team, 284 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: maybe not an offense, maybe not on defense, but is 285 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: generally speaking as a team to be able to even 286 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: be in a game like this against a really good 287 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: opponent like Washington State, that to me represents such sudden 288 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: progress forward for the Bears that I'm downright impressed they're 289 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: here at all. A thirty four point win. Though Dan 290 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: we panned this game on Wednesday, we mentioned it briefly 291 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: that it was happening. 292 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Cow, we knew, was good enough to take 293 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: advantage of teams in sort of precarious situations of their 294 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: own doing. North Carolina, I mean, not that they injured 295 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: their own players, but they were in a bad position 296 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: to start the season usc they forced a ton of 297 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: turnovers Ole Miss. They were able to get by a 298 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: reeling Ole Miss program and team. Maybe it's just like 299 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: a weird PAC twelve road thing struggling on the road 300 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: against Oregon and their backup quarterback struggling mightily against Washington 301 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: on the road in Seattle but for whatever reason, just 302 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: I think it was seven force turnovers against seven Zoo seven. 303 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: Luke Fowk looked completely out of sorts. It was Cameron Binam, 304 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: I believe, who jumped routes and was outstanding, never allowing 305 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: Wazoo to get in any sort of rhythm. So whatever 306 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: verb you want to use, yeah, Cal's defense just and 307 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: this is the sort of I think this is what 308 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: happens when you have a team with maybe okay talent, 309 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: but very good coaching, that there's going to be moments 310 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: where you are just out talented, you're out schemed, whatever, 311 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: but they're going to improve and in pockets show potential. 312 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: And this was one hell of a pocket, an incredible pocket. 313 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: Wazoo was eighth in the nation before this game. Clearly 314 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: they'll be falling down a little bit back to Earth 315 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: now after this huge road defeat. My gosh, five picks 316 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: for Luke Falk just incredible. It is of note that 317 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: both Washington schools kind of lost the same way. Yeah, 318 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: on the road to defense, is that no one expected 319 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: to play defense and shut him down in the manner 320 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: that they did. The one that I think the upset 321 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: of the weekend that truly caught me off guard. Was 322 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: the one that kicked off late last night at ten 323 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: forty five Eastern time. If you are an East Coaster, 324 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: if you're a West Coaster, for crying out loud, if 325 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: he stayed up to watch this game at all, I 326 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: have good news for you, Dan, what's that? 327 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 5: What's that? 328 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: You've been preapproved for Heaven? Arizona State thirteen Washington seven. 329 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: I woke up at one am randomly to check the scores, 330 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: and I saw that this was thirteen to seven in 331 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: favor of ASU. I just assume my internet was down. Dan, 332 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: I didn't take it seriously. 333 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: The ones and zeros were thrown back bits and bites 334 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: that were not at all representative of real life. 335 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, unbelievable. Let me sit the stage here. Washington was 336 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: an eighteen point favorite. They played against an ASU team 337 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 2: that had given up at least thirty points in eleven 338 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: straight games. We didn't preview it because it looked like 339 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: it was going to be a runaway train. There isn't 340 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: a single person in the world who thought this was 341 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: only going to be a twenty point total game. Here 342 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: late at night, packed twelve after dark. You look at 343 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: the score, you think, ah, well, Jake Browning must have 344 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 2: got hurt. Maybe you got a concussion, or Miles Gaskin 345 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: hurt his knee or nope, Asu just totally shut them down. 346 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: Dan totally shut them down in this game. Have you 347 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: had a chance to look at the drive chart in 348 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: this game? 349 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: I have had a chance to look at the drive charts? 350 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: Huh please me in a dramatic reading of said drive chart. 351 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: Four was or excuse me for Washington? Yes, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, 352 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: end of half, missed field goal, punt, missed field goal, punt, touchdown. 353 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: That was very good. Thank you, thank you to look no, 354 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: no smoke or merrors, nothing like that. As you just 355 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: shut him down. Washington three of fourteen on third downs. 356 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: It was the seventh straight time they lost on the 357 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: road at as, which is a fun little stat. They 358 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: haven't won there since two thousand and one. But wow, wow, 359 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: what a stunner. 360 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: So in order, because I went to sleep at halftime 361 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: and it sort of scrubbed through this game and read 362 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: about the game this morning early on, this was in 363 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: order my thoughts about this. Whoa okay, that was number one, 364 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: number two, like, well, you know when Manny Wilkins is healthy, 365 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: he can be pretty good, and he's got a great receiver, 366 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: Nikhil Hair. And certainly Todd Graham and this defensive staff 367 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: have experienced recruiting really good players and putting together good 368 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: defenses and challenging pretty much everybody on a certain level, 369 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: and really good for them to shut down a prolific 370 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: Washington offense with two good backs, a very good quarterback, 371 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. That was number two, number three, 372 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: And you know what, if it makes me a bad person, 373 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: I will make peace with it. And I'm just being honest, Ty, 374 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: this is a place of honesty. 375 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: We're all friends here, circle of trust. 376 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, number three, Todd Graham must have stolen the hell 377 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: out of Washington's Oh no, you didn't legal legal tie. 378 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: Bring in the fire. 379 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: But that's but I mean, we've seen this yere in, 380 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: year out, and if you are good at that, that 381 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: means the other team is not good enough at hiding 382 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: right now, agreed. 383 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. 384 00:19:55,280 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: That is irresponsible speculation on my part. That's fine, Hey, 385 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: that was the natural. I'm just telling you what I thought. 386 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: And if that's the case, whatever. 387 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: Is Arizona State any good? I don't know. I thought 388 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: they were terrible. So Arizona States three and three. 389 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they've now beaten an Oregon team at mostly 390 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: full offensive health. I don't think Charles Nelson was in 391 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: that game. They lost to what looks like at least 392 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: a pretty good stand for team in a somewhat competitive way. 393 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: They lost to a pretty good San Diego State team 394 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: and a pretty good Texas Tech team, so they didn't 395 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: really have a big signature win. I mean, actually, New 396 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: Mexico State is not a horrible win, but to beat 397 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: Washington is incredible. I don't know if it's going to 398 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: be enough to save Todd Graham's job because it seems 399 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: like there's other factors beyond win loss record at play. 400 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: But they have a chance to have a bowl season. 401 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: They have a chance to beat a couple of other 402 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: decent teams. Cool to see for Arizona State players and 403 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: fans for sure. 404 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: All Right, and the other big one involving a top 405 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 2: ten team, it wasn't quite as dramatic, but it was 406 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: in the SEC twenty seven to twenty three. LSU comes back, 407 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: matic comes back to beat Auburn. Sure, Okay, what a 408 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: missed opportunity for Auburn here they would have moved up 409 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: to at least seventh, maybe higher in the polls. And 410 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 2: they led twenty to nothing at one point in the 411 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 2: second quarter, only to be outscored twenty seven to three 412 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: the rest of the way. The second half in particular, brutal, brutal. 413 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: Ls You really tightened the belt on defense. They allowed 414 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: no points in just sixty four offensive yards for Auburn. 415 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: Jared Stidham completed two passes for a total of six 416 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: yards in the entire second half. As again, the LSU 417 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: defense really came together. They stopped giving up pretty much 418 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: anything against the Auburn Tigers. And I just come back 419 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: to what we said a week ago. LSU they did 420 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: the control all delete, they got their task manager and 421 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 2: order Dan and now here we are. 422 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think LSU is ever. I think everybody 423 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: sort of assumed LSU was better than what they showed, 424 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: you know, two, three, four weeks ago, But that doesn't 425 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: mean necessarily they'll get it together during the season. And 426 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: the fact that they're able to sneak by Florida, able 427 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: to come back and beat a what we assume is 428 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: a at least a good Auburn team. Maybe not a 429 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: great Auburn team, but a good one in the manner 430 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: in which they did it. With Danny Etling looking pretty good, 431 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: they were able to move the ball some on the ground, 432 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: They had a huge special teams played from DJ Shark. 433 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: The secondary stepped up in a huge way after letting 434 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: too much go by obviously early on in the game. 435 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: But for LSU to show the fight that they did 436 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: to really win this game the last three quarters, in 437 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: all three phases was super impressive. It wasn't it wasn't 438 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: any sort of like huge change. It was patience, it 439 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: was fight. It was I mean, if you told Gus 440 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: MALSI you're gonna score twenty points, do you think you'll 441 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: have enough to beat LSU, You're like, all right, yeah, yeah, sure, 442 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: I'll take it. And I don't know what it was 443 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: about Auburn. Jared Sidham looked good early carry on. Johnson 444 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: looked good pretty much the whole game, but particularly early on. 445 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: Auburn just seems like they became a team without a plan, 446 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: Like they had a good initial look at LSU. This 447 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: is what we're gonna take advantage of. This is what 448 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: we're gonna do. They the adjustment to the adjustment. It 449 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: was like they were in a movie where they were 450 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: the ones saying I think I've got a plan, and 451 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: then the plan happens and somebody says, okay, now what 452 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: I was like, that's as far as I got. 453 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what are we doing? What are we doing? 454 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: What are we doing? 455 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 5: Right? 456 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: I don't that's I thought, as somebody else would just 457 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: sort of hop on top. No, So Auburn coming into 458 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: this game was a team that lost to the one 459 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: very good team they played and beat up on disappointing 460 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: teams that they had played, so he hadn't really seen 461 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: them decisively beat or hang with a good team. LSU 462 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: right now looks to be pretty good. LSU. I don't 463 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: know what their schedule is immediately, but they certainly appear 464 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: to have a confidence about them that they didn't two 465 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: or three weeks ago. They have all miss on the 466 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: road next week before a bye week in traveling to Bama. 467 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's slowly but surely going to get very real. 468 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: But they also close the schedule out with Arkansas, Tennessee 469 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: and Texas A and M so LSU is at least 470 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: in a position to keep improving for the most part. 471 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Russell Gage, I don't want to let him 472 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: go right unmentioned had a really cool, awesome diving catch 473 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: for a touchdown and also had a big run to 474 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: set up another touchdown for LSU. We shall see where 475 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: it goes from here for Auburn. But I think this 476 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: effectively puts to bed the pipe dream that Auburn can 477 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: beat Alabama. 478 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. No, no, I don't think 479 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: that's true. I think the talent on defense is enough 480 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: for Auburn that they can hang with anybody offensively. I 481 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: think they need to keep evolving, keep sort of taking 482 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: shots having confidence. I mean, Jared Sidham under threw a 483 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: receiver a couple of times, but the running game is 484 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: good enough. They just need to sort of keep diagnosing. 485 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: And I'm one hundred percent not ready to write off Auburn. 486 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, let's head on over to the 487 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: Big twelve because it was a good week. Games over there, 488 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: great week. Yeah. You know, some call this the red 489 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: River rivalry, the red River Showdown. I think for us, 490 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: in our heart of hearts, it will always be the 491 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 2: red River Shootout. This ended up being a very, very 492 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: good football game. I'm still riding with the red River 493 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 2: Turse handshake. Sure. Of course, Oklahoma jumped out much like Auburn, 494 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 2: to an early twenty to nothing lead. It looked like 495 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: they were going to run away with it. But Texas 496 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: and Sam Ellinger, they fight back. It's what they do. 497 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: They fought back, they found a way to get back 498 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: into the game, and thanks to some timely defense, thanks 499 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 2: to some handiwork by Ellinger, Texas was able to make 500 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 2: this one a football game They damn near won. I'll 501 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: say this, Ellinger is one hundred percent the real deal. 502 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: If you haven't seen him play, He's a good passer, 503 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: but a really good runner, really good runner. He had 504 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: twenty two carries one hundred and six yards and a 505 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: big go ahead score late in the game. He just 506 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: he needs some help. He needs some help, I think 507 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: if Texas wants to get to the next level. Because 508 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: he handed it off to three other backs who ran 509 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 2: for a total of seventeen yards on fourteen carries. 510 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: I had the over under at eighteen and a half 511 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: carries and I thought that was a joke. Twenty two 512 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: carries for Sam Ellinger. He is a very good runner. 513 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: He's a smart runner. He throws a nice ball, he 514 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: was efficient, he wasn't huge through the air. They really 515 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: didn't get it too. I think Oklahoma did a good 516 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: job against Colin Johnson. He only had a couple catches. 517 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: But yes, Texas, at a certain point you need results 518 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: and not just wow, they hung with a really really 519 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: good team. A certain point you need results. But I 520 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: don't obviously think that point is this very much now. 521 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 2: I mean, look, they're going to get somebody this year. 522 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: I don't know who it is that was the read 523 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: earlier in the season before we saw them play. We're like, 524 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: you know, there's potential here. The defense improved at the 525 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: end of twenty sixteen. They'll probably be good again this year. 526 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: It's just going to take them a while to assemble 527 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: the pieces on offense end. They'll probably end up taking 528 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: somebody big down in the Big twelve. Who that is 529 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: remains to be seen. 530 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: TCU in Fort Worth November fourth, which is an enormous weekend. 531 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: We'll see Baker Rayfield's great. You know that, I know 532 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: that everybody listening knows that Oklahoma ran the ball well. Defensively. 533 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: They definitely got better from the Iowa State tobacle. Sure 534 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: last weekend and Oklahoma survives advances. The coming schedule is rough. 535 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 1: I mean, they have Kansas State, who's probably only alright, 536 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: but after that they have Texas Tech, Oklahoma State TCU 537 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: in consecutive week So whatever your thoughts about Oklahoma at 538 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: this moment, it's about to get very real. 539 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it helps that they're getting Tray Sermon more involved. 540 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: He mentioned they run the ball well, ran the ball well, 541 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: excuse me, and has good to see. They're going to 542 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: get their thirty points a game. Ish didn't score thirty 543 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: one twenty nine to twenty four in this one, but 544 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: they're going to get theirs on offense the remainder of 545 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 2: this season. The true ceiling for Oklahoma is a function 546 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: of their defense. Because you're right between Tech and Oklahoma 547 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: State and TCU you didn't even mention West Virginia still 548 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: on the schedule, they are going to be ample opportunities 549 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: there for something to go haywire defensively for Oklahoma, and 550 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 2: it's how they respond to those challenges that I think 551 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 2: will dictate whether or not they're just the top dog 552 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: or one of the top dogs in the Big Twelve, 553 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: or if they can get back to the playoff. 554 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: When is Oklahoma TCU? It's I think is that. 555 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: Also the later in the year, like second to last 556 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: week of the year. 557 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: November eleventh, okay, Oklahoma TCU and that is in Norman, 558 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: So okay. Hell of a game. 559 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: Also in the Big twelve Dan who West Virginia forty six, 560 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: Texas Tech thirty five. The over under here when we 561 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: recorded was seventy eight. Clearly they went over that one. 562 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: What a game. This is a fun game. Early, yes, 563 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: West Virginia trailed by eighteen with twenty four minutes of 564 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: regulation left, and that's when the bat signal went up, 565 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: and that's when wild Billy Greer mm hmm stepped into 566 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: his own. From that point forward, West Virginia scored twenty 567 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: nine unanswered points. They got four more touchdown passes from 568 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: Billy Greer, two of which went to our boy David Sills. 569 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: The fifth decidedly a wide receiver for wes Virginia. Can 570 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: we can we retire the. 571 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: Recruited by Lank Kevin when as to be a quarterback 572 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: when he was ten years old? Can we retire that? 573 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm fine with retiring. 574 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: I think he has earned really good receiver for West Virginia. 575 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: Who keeps getting in the end zone and I think 576 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: leads the country and receiving touchdowns. 577 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got twelve. 578 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, so great year. 579 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. Well, bronze it and put it 580 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: up on our Mount Rushmore. An outstanding comeback here in 581 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: a game that looked totally out of reach for West 582 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: Virginia and you know the focus will be offense because 583 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: they scored forty six points. 584 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: Right. 585 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: Defensively they stepped up as well, they really did. Nick 586 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: Shiminick had two hundred and fifty two yards and four 587 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: touchdowns in the first half for Texas Tech. In the 588 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: second half, he just had seventy one yards in an interception. 589 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: West Virginia came to play when they had to and 590 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: got a big win here. Texas Tech is still a 591 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: pretty good team. 592 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're one hundred percent of very good team. 593 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: Nick Shimenick looks very good. They were able to run 594 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: the ball. Well, yeah, it was what twenty two to 595 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: nothing West Virginia in the fourth quarter. They just completely 596 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: outpaced uh Texas Tech later on. But I know a 597 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: lot of Texas Tech fans are probably on some level 598 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: upside at their kicker, who I think missed what three 599 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: or four field goals in this game. Texas Tech also 600 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: punted four times in the second half. I believe and listen, 601 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: they just they closed up shop offensively in the second half. 602 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: And it's just not good enough on the road in 603 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: a tough place to play against a good quarterback who's 604 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: going to put up yardage. But Texas Tech, I think 605 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: absolutely a pretty good team. They shut down justin Crawford. 606 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: In the West Virginia run game. Yeah, they get theirs 607 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: through the air. It was an entertaining game. I am optimistic. 608 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: I am bullish on the Red Raiders moving forward. 609 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: Too many penalties right had like sloppy pops. It's got 610 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: to work some stuff out. But yeah, they're okay, they're better, 611 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: I think improved from a year ago. A nice win. 612 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: Nice win for West Virginia to come back and get 613 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 2: the W. Elsewhere in Big twelve Country, TCU twenty six, 614 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: Kansas State six, dan As ken Toberfest continues ken Hill 615 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: two ninety seven, passing through the air, no interceptions. Kickoff 616 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: in this game was actually delayed three hours due to lightning, 617 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: and once they finally got rolling, TCU pretty much smothered 618 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: the k State offense. Jesse Ertz couldn't go in this one, 619 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 2: which meant Alex Delton got his first career start, and 620 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 2: what can we say, he had a hard time getting 621 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: anything going. 622 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, TCU was able to sort of sniff out a 623 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: much more predictable Kansas State offense running the ball aton 624 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: and you know, even though it looks like it was 625 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty run pass, you know, they were daring 626 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: Alex Alex Delton to throw the ball. TCU, Ken Hill 627 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: Frog Toberfest, whatever it's it's looking very very good for 628 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: the Frogs. Defensively, they were very very good up front. 629 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: Kyle Hicks you mentioned, had a very good game. And 630 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: between TCU and Oklahoma, I think I feel a little 631 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: bit better about TCU right now. 632 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 2: I think I feel better about TCU. I'm not getting 633 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: back together with TCU, though people have asked me that question. 634 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: And I'll go a step further about the Big Twelve 635 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: as a whole look around college football. Does the Big 636 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: Twelve have more teams that scare you on a given 637 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: week than any other conference? 638 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: Uh, there's a I think the decent factor is highest 639 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: and probably the Big Twelve in the ACC. But you know, 640 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: at the top. I still think it's the SEC. 641 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: I think, uh, but I'm talking tea Like the highs 642 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: are higher in the SEC. The highest might still be 643 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 2: higher in the Big Ten. But just on any given week, 644 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: are there more teams in any other conference than the 645 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 2: Big Twelve? That just frighten you? Like, I don't want 646 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: to play I don't want to play Oklahoma or Oklahoma State, right, 647 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to play TCU. I don't want to 648 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: play West Virginia. 649 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean, do you want to play Iowa State at 650 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: this point? 651 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to play Texas? 652 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: You know, I think the wide open danger is probably 653 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: highest in the Big twelve. 654 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: Oklahoma State wins fifty nine to sixteen over Baylor. 655 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: Ooh, you said the name. 656 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: I said the name. They're playing hard oh and six? 657 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: But playing hard. Oklahoma State gained a school record seven 658 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: hundred and forty seven total yards, and our boy Junkyard 659 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 2: Jim Washington had himself another day six catches, two thirty 660 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: five receiving and a touchdown, as well as a rushing 661 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: touchdown to boot in the Vapors, and Iowa State wins 662 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: forty five to nothing. Three touchdowns for definitive dude David 663 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 2: Montgomery in a win over Kansas. Oh yeah, let's move 664 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: to the PAC twelve here quickly, m hm. USC twenty eight, 665 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 2: Utah twenty seven. That's how I feel right now about 666 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: what went on with USC. Really on both sides of 667 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: the football. You're doing particularly on defense. Yeah, they got 668 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: bullied by Utah, didn't they. 669 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: They did on the ground once again, this was a great. 670 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 2: Game, a fun to watch. You toss scored with forty 671 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 2: two seconds left, Kyle Whittingham decides he's going to be 672 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 2: a baller and go for two in the win. They 673 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 2: run a weird play, they stop short. They lose twenty 674 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: eight to twenty seven on the road against USC. Have 675 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: you ever heard that adage that everything before the butt 676 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: is bullshit? What? 677 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 5: No? Like? 678 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, if I said, I like you, but you smell 679 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: Oh okay, everything before the butt is bs right, Okay, Sure, 680 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 2: I'm with that. USC is sort of living that before 681 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 2: the butt life right now. They won, but Sam Darnold 682 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 2: fumbled three times, but UTA sort of manhandled them. But 683 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: they almost lost to Troy Williams, who might not be 684 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: as bad as you think, but still isn't great, you 685 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, sure, there's just a lot 686 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: of qualifiers that you need to talk yourself through if 687 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 2: you're willing to put USC atop your PAC twelve and 688 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 2: in your playoff. 689 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 1: At this point, USC is like beach muscle, boat muscle. 690 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: They look the parts you asked them to enter a 691 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: weightlifting contest. That's when it gets real exactly. And I 692 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: think the important thing is because, like you know, it's 693 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: fun to make fun at USC whatever. They get all 694 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: the attention to the world with very little in the 695 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: way of accomplishment. They did win the Rose Bowl, but 696 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: it's it's disappointing that we have to look at them 697 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: at the beginning of every year and say they're a 698 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: top five team, they're making the playoff whatever. It's okay 699 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: to be pretty good. It's probably below their talent level 700 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: to only be a top fifteen team. But when you 701 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: look at the results, when you look at the production, 702 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: when you look at the strengths and weaknesses and the 703 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 1: types of teams that bully them and are productive against 704 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: them on either side of the ball, they're pretty good. 705 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: You toss started Troy Williams now today and later last night, 706 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: USC fans are like, well, he listened, he's experienced, he 707 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 1: was at Washington. You know he's you know, he's a gutty. 708 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: He's not that good. He started the season last year 709 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: and he was beat out this year. His stats, he 710 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: was like the twelfth most efficient quarterback out of twelve 711 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: in the Witch Conference. 712 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 2: The back twelve. 713 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, the back twelve. So yes. Troy Williams had a 714 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,439 Speaker 1: nice day against USC. Zak Moss ran all over the place. 715 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is with USC shooting themselves 716 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: in the foot, looking disorganized defensively. There were moments where 717 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: you're like, how does anybody score points on this team? 718 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: When Cameron Smith is jumping out of nowhere to pick 719 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: off balls at the line of scrimmage, You're like, oh 720 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: my god, this team, there's something else. And then they 721 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: just go three and out. Sam Darnold's froun the ball 722 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: fifty times against Utah? What why USC tightened up in 723 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 1: the second half. Utah basically got nothing going into that 724 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: late touchdown. I love the decision to go for two. 725 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: It was a rough play. Darren Carrington was open in 726 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 1: the back of the end zone. But no, Utah's a 727 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: scary team and USC is pretty good. That's my optimism. 728 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 2: Schedule wise, it looked like it was setting up really 729 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 2: well for USC, and to an extent it still is. Right, 730 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: It's not just not as easy. Next week at Notre 731 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: Dame will be a tester. They could be an underdog 732 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: in that game. 733 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: Is Wimbush playing, I don't know, we'll find out. 734 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 2: I hope so. 735 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I mean that changes the changes. 736 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 2: The equation if he doesn't, but I would assume that 737 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 2: he will be ready to go for that game. Okay, 738 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: but look at Arizona State. Well it's a little trickier now. 739 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 2: Maybe ASU isn't all that bad as long as Khalil 740 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 2: Tate doesn't get hurt, Arizona could be interesting in. 741 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: La in La Colorado's down Ucla to close out the year. 742 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 743 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not as easy as we thought. And no, 744 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: the UCLA defense is as easy as we thought. We'll 745 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: talk about them here in a cent. 746 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 5: Yeah. 747 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 2: But my point is that it's just it's shaping up 748 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 2: to be a second half for you USC, where if 749 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: they continue to shoot themselves in the foot, make them mistakes, 750 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 2: be softer than they should be on defense, throw fifty 751 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 2: times with Sam Darnold. Eventually someone's gone up and you're 752 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 2: gonna jump up and get them. 753 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: By the way, you mentioned the Arizona State thing. I 754 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 1: saw this somewhere the last time Washington beat Arizona State 755 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: in Tucson or excuse me, in temp. This is the 756 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 1: song tie, This is very special to you. This is 757 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: the song that was taking the country by storm. Okay, 758 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: we'll drop to Jupiter two thousand and one. 759 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, now that. 760 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: Arizona State's back in the atmosphere. Yeah, it's been a 761 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 1: long time, but hey might get fun down the stretch. 762 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 2: Arizona forty seven. You see LA thirty. Uh, Arizona should 763 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 2: just let Khalil Tate run at the rest of the year. 764 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: Or pass it. And she threw it well against He 765 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: was like seven for eleven, right, yeah, nine of thirteen. Okay, yeah, 766 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: for one hundred and forty eight eleven per attempt. 767 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had three hundred and twenty some odd yards 768 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 2: on the ground a week ago, add another two thirty 769 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 2: this week. I believe if you add it all up, 770 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 2: and I was looking this morning before they updated the 771 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 2: stats around the interwebs, but I believe if you add 772 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 2: it all up, he is now in the top twenty 773 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 2: five nationally for rushing yardage and only about fifty seven 774 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 2: or so yards behind Lamar Jackson. Here is my question, 775 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 2: if we push hard enough on this show, if we 776 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 2: just pushing all the right spots, what are the odds 777 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 2: we could get a Khalil Tait for Heisman discussion going. 778 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: Man, it's gonna be rough if anybody can do what 779 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: we can do it. So Arizona finishes out with let's 780 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: look at their schedule. An okay cal team, A an 781 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: up and down Wazoo team that we still think is 782 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: pretty good. I assume I don't want to speak for 783 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 1: you at a turn, but I assume we still think Wazoos. 784 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I forget about that. 785 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: They go to USC, Oregon State, They go to Oregon, 786 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: and they go to ASU and the Territorial Cup. So 787 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: he's going to have to run I think USC actually 788 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: made a late push for him in the recruiting process, 789 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: But they're going to have to go to USC and 790 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: he's going to have to run wild, and that game 791 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 1: is gonna have to be in like prime. There can't 792 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: be at ten thirty pm. It just can't. And he's 793 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,399 Speaker 1: gonna have to run wild against Wazoo and against USC. 794 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: I finished strong and maybe he's gonna have to throw 795 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: the ball well too. 796 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm only semi serious about this. I'm 797 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 2: not I understood not trying to launch a campaign in earnest, 798 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 2: but I'm saying that could be a new game for us, 799 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 2: just to keep ourselves entertained. 800 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: If you're asking me a question, I'm gonna give you 801 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: an answer. 802 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 2: Ty forty seven to thirty. Arizona beats UCLA. Ucla had 803 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 2: four turnovers, and that brings us to Stanford and Oregon. 804 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 2: DAN In the old video game days, this is where 805 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 2: you would just simulate to the end, man focus on 806 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 2: your recruiting. 807 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: I slept till the end tie. 808 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 2: Oregon had eleven yards of offense in the second half. 809 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: They did, indeed die they did indeed, so Bryce Love 810 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: ran wild early. Oregon tightened up on defense. But the 811 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: problem is organ also tightens up on offense, or at 812 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 1: least stayed ti. I don't know, like Oregon can't throw 813 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: the ball with Braxton Burmeister or Taylor Ally. These are 814 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: not at the moment, at least for Burmeister. These are 815 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: not Pack twelve caliber quarterbacks, and that makes it difficult 816 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: when you're surrounded by pretty good pack twelve talent everywhere 817 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: else on that offense, A very good, if not all 818 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 1: timer In Royce Freeman, fast talent all over the place, 819 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: Charles Nelson, Todsgriff and whatever. The line is good. But 820 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: this is such a sloppy team still to I don't 821 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: know how many penalties they ended up with. I assume 822 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: it's like nine or ten at least. But Oregon just 823 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: they would get third and four and run for eleven 824 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: and I would be like, hell, yeah, never mind holding 825 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: it just over and over again. And I don't know 826 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 1: if it's a Wally Taggart thing as a play caller. 827 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a Mario Cristobal Marcus Arroyo 828 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: thing as the sort of co offensive coordinators. But they 829 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback at least for another probably two 830 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: or three weeks, when Justin Herbert comes back, and even 831 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: then it's it's gonna be a long year in Eugene. 832 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: This was man all across the Pacific Northwest high If 833 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: there are if there are copywriters writing, like you know, 834 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: like visit Pennsylvania, visit California, know those commercials like man 835 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest is just hey, we've got salmon we've got 836 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 1: north face like so much Technike, we've got trees hiking rowing. 837 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,919 Speaker 1: It's not football. Not this week. 838 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: Yes, this week was that big earthquake they've been talking 839 00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 2: about for years up there. 840 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 4: Yeah was. 841 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: It was really bad and Bryce Love got hurt at 842 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: the beginning of the second half. Hope he's all right, because, 843 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: as I think it was Spencer Hall mentioned, he is 844 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 1: the human first down. He leads the nation and carries 845 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: and he's averaging ten yards of carry and take it 846 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 1: for me, ty, And I think Notre Dame has Stanford. 847 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 1: I didn't have any expectations of Morgan winning this game, 848 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: so my reactions and my emotions were measured. But Oregon, 849 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: excuse me, Stanford hosts Notre Dame to finish the year. Yep, 850 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 1: you're holding on to your butt one week after Navy too. 851 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: That should be fun. God, Bryce Love just being handed 852 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: the ball is terrifying. 853 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:44,479 Speaker 2: Whatever. Colorado also won twenty one to nineteen over Oregon State. Okay, 854 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 2: we got to move on here real quickly. Yes, but 855 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 2: three other conferences to talk about here. Bama and Georgia 856 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 2: both won. Alabama won forty one to nine over Arkansas. 857 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 2: The only real note in this game is that Arkansas 858 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 2: started a six seven to two seventy quarterback, a freshman 859 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 2: by the name of Cole Kelly. He was not able 860 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 2: to get much offense going because of course this was 861 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 2: against Alabama. But he's notable because he's a giant human being. 862 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: He's America's large adult son. 863 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 2: Georgia fifty three Missouri twenty eight. The Dogs rushed for 864 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 2: three seventy. There was a flurry of scoring in the 865 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 2: first half here there were fifty five points at half, 866 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 2: but eventually Georgia pulled away to win by a fifty 867 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 2: three to twenty eight score. 868 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: Mm hm. 869 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 2: The real game that we paid attention to to the 870 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 2: extent that we could was Texas a m on the road, 871 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 2: winning nineteen to seventeen against the Florida Gators. Dan my 872 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 2: least favorite part of doing this podcast is having to 873 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 2: pay attention to Florida football. 874 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: Same it is Spaye Frank's had a long run. 875 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,800 Speaker 2: Painful to watch this team it is. 876 00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: It is offensively, they get a little bit trickier every week, 877 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: but that's not enough. That is just Niya. 878 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,240 Speaker 2: I get a lot. But my my favorite Florida moment 879 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 2: of the year, yeah was before it started, when I 880 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 2: was up in New York with you and your other host, 881 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 2: Richard Johnson. M and Richard kind of had the sheepish 882 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 2: optimism about Florida and at the time, I think they're 883 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 2: probably gonna beat Michigan even with all these suspensions, Like 884 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 2: I still like the cut of their jib. Yeah, maybe 885 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 2: they were going to turn some kind of corner. I 886 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 2: want to live in that moment forever, because every Florida 887 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 2: game feels exactly the same. Now, to make matters worse, 888 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 2: I've got this issue with color blindness. I don't know 889 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 2: if I've shared that on the show. 890 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: Okay, I could not see the players on the field 891 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: because of those damn uniforms that were wearing camouflage. They 892 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: were rough to look at tyas. 893 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,320 Speaker 2: I had my iPad three inches from my face trying 894 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 2: to decipher what the hell was going on. I'm not kidding. 895 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 2: I could not see the freaking players. 896 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: That shouldn't be funny to me, but it is because 897 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: you were struggling to see Florida's offense, which in a 898 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,879 Speaker 1: way we all were. In a way we all were. 899 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: I tweeted out that text A and M after the win. 900 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: It was they got good special teams play. The defense 901 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 1: is looking improved and pretty good. The offense is kind 902 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 1: of trash, but Kellen Mond looks for a true freshman 903 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: kind of promising. Not through the area yesterday, but you know, 904 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 1: the whole picture looks like he could be good in 905 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 1: a year or two. And I tweeted out that they 906 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: look sort of secretly decent, and Texts A and M 907 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 1: fans were not having it was another sec fans. It 908 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: was text A and M fans like. 909 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 2: We know it actually may have been the official Texas 910 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,919 Speaker 2: A and M account that responded with a question mark 911 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 2: to that. 912 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: Really, yeah, oh I didn't see that. I think I 913 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: mean when I say secretly decent, I don't mean that 914 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: text A and M is in any way a big threat. 915 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: But they're not average, They're not below average. They are 916 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: just existing with a smile, and they could kicking yesterday. 917 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: Daniel Le Camera, daniel Le Camera. I think he kicked 918 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 1: four field goals to try to say that one. I 919 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: think he nailed one over forty five, so won the 920 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 1: game for him. 921 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,359 Speaker 2: Nineteen seventeen, Texas and M beats Florida. If that game 922 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 2: was painful to watch, let me introduce you to South 923 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 2: Carolina fifteen, Tennessee nine. 924 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn down that introduction. 925 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 2: I did not watch this game. I merely watched highlights 926 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 2: I read about it. I can't imagine anything less watchable 927 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 2: all weekend than this game. 928 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably a good point. 929 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 2: There weren't even any turnovers to make it interesting. Just 930 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 2: a whole lot of nothing. 931 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,399 Speaker 1: Just a whole lot of really confusing and bad play 932 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: calling was sort of what this game was. 933 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 2: South Carolina is five and two. It's not all pretty, 934 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 2: most of it isn't, but they are getting the job done. 935 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 2: Tennessee is now at three and three. They are on 936 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 2: the road at Bamma next week. The week after, I 937 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 2: believe they play Kentucky. We had a Tennessee fan right 938 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 2: in this morning and ask when will Tennessee win again? 939 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 2: When will that happen? Your safest bet is probably November fourth, 940 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,800 Speaker 2: because that's when they play like Southern Miss or somebody 941 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,720 Speaker 2: like that, which is not a pushover by any stretch. 942 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 2: But no, we're in this weird place now where the 943 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 2: problems are compounding. It doesn't necessarily feel like Tennessee's moving 944 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,280 Speaker 2: in any great direction, and the fake tweets are starting 945 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 2: about Butch Jones being fired. I think it's probably headed there, Dan. 946 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: Can we call the game in Columbia, Missouri between Tennessee 947 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 1: and Miszoo obviously the unwatchable? 948 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 5: Yeah? 949 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 2: Sure? 950 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 1: What it is? What a mess? Yeah? Not fun. If 951 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,839 Speaker 1: you're a Tennessee fan, I feel you excuse me, sorry, 952 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 1: Tennessee is infecting me. Both sympathize. Tennessee will probably almost 953 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: assuredly be with a new coach next season. And you 954 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: know what it kind of it's run its course. 955 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 2: Ole Miss fifty seven vand thirty five. A lot of 956 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 2: offense for ole Miss against pretty good defense. Another really 957 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 2: good game for Shape Patterson and Mississippi State thirty five 958 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 2: BYU ten. Another chapter in the BYU ballad this season. 959 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 2: They're now one in six. 960 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 1: Yep, not great. 961 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the acc here. 962 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 1: Miama twenty five Georgia Tech twenty four. It's go right, 963 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,399 Speaker 1: It's go right, it's go right. 964 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,720 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna keep hitting the button in it's go right. Wow. 965 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 2: What the hell was going on weatherwise in this game? 966 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: Monsoon monson season points for me. People are suffering in 967 00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: that stadium. Tie. 968 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 2: This was a good game, Georgia Tech. They led for 969 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 2: most of it. It was the third time this season 970 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 2: where Miami rallied to win from a halftime deficit. They 971 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,800 Speaker 2: end up out gaining Georgia Tech by two hundred yards. 972 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 2: They do it without Mark Walton, who was lost for 973 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 2: the season. Amon Richards was also out in their Star 974 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 2: wide out. My takeaway here is that Miami's really good, 975 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 2: really good, but they are truly ripe for an upset. Yeah, 976 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 2: they feel lro ish, you know, like eventually those halftime 977 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 2: deficits they come back to get you. It's great to 978 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,439 Speaker 2: see Travis Homer out there, had himself a good game 979 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy yards filling in for Mark Walton. 980 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 2: And they're going to be a top ten team when 981 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 2: the polls are released, and they'll probably be undefeated in 982 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 2: November when we get there and they play Virginia Tech 983 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,320 Speaker 2: and Notre Dame. But they do feel a little LROI 984 00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 2: to me too. 985 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: That'd be lucky runs out. Yes, if they are winning 986 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 1: games at the last second and through sort of terrific happenstance, 987 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 1: but at a certain point you can't count on that. 988 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:16,240 Speaker 1: And yes, it was torrential weather. It was awful. Georgia 989 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: Tech had a twenty four to thirteen lead. I think 990 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 1: this offense up eleven should be in a better position 991 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: to win in the second half, and that was disappointing. 992 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 1: Take one, Marshall struggled through the air, understandably given the rain, 993 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 1: but still Malik Rosier was able to connect enough through 994 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: the air where you're a little bit more hopeful that 995 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech can be a bit more complete when they 996 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: need to be. Travis Homer was very good. Miami just 997 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: the slow starts. 998 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to get on. 999 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 1: It will absolutely get them. I don't know what it's like. 1000 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,879 Speaker 1: They're showing up for a book report with only having 1001 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 1: read the first quarter or the first you know, the 1002 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,320 Speaker 1: first chapter, and are just struggling to piece things together. 1003 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 1: Miami needs to be better early. The schedule is going 1004 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: to get more difficult, and I'm more disappointed in Georgia 1005 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 1: Tach because I thought it could have been a really 1006 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: fun breakthrough game for them. Miami has Syracuse North Carolina, 1007 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 1: which are winnable games. Syracuse is, you know, taking a 1008 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 1: step up, definitely, but they finished with Virginia Tech Notre 1009 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: Dame five and one. Virginia time boom and on the 1010 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: road at Pitt so a pretty good schedule to finish 1011 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 1: the year out. 1012 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Virginia one twenty to fourteen over North Carolina. For 1013 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 2: those of you keeping track at home, they're now five 1014 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,760 Speaker 2: one curb bent another nice game to forty nine passing 1015 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 2: two touchdowns. Yeah, okay. Elsewhere Boston College forty five, Louisville 1016 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 2: forty two. Dan ooh. Boston College ran effectively that NC 1017 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 2: State plan against Louisville, and they said, we're gonna let 1018 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson get his five hundred yards and five touchdowns, 1019 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 2: and we're just gonna worry about scoring on our own 1020 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 2: and we're gonna get a stop here and there. We're 1021 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,320 Speaker 2: gonna piece it together. We're gonna find a way to 1022 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 2: win with the field goal. 1023 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: When mar Jackson went like over five hundred yards, didn't. 1024 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,400 Speaker 2: He yep, always does. But aj Dillon, the freshman back 1025 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 2: for Boston College, had two seventy two four touchdowns on 1026 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 2: the ground. BC goes on the road, they get theirs. 1027 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 2: I think fair to say that Louisville is not who 1028 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,240 Speaker 2: we thought they were at the start of the season. 1029 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,839 Speaker 2: Here as we're now in this weird territory where again 1030 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,800 Speaker 2: teams are gonna let Lamar Jackson get his stats and 1031 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 2: they're going to concern themselves otherwise, we're just winning the 1032 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 2: football game. 1033 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: My god, b C. Good for you, But what is 1034 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 1: happening with this This Louisville defense? Unbelievable Peter Sermon not 1035 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,879 Speaker 1: hmm not great. 1036 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 2: Can they untrade and get third and Grantham back in town? 1037 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,800 Speaker 1: Uh? Probably not, which is crazy. 1038 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 2: Florida State seventeen. The Duchies ten a great deal if 1039 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,439 Speaker 2: you were able to cash in on my duke plus 1040 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,879 Speaker 2: seven and a half suggestion h Florida State won this game. 1041 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 2: It was their fourth straight game that was decided by 1042 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 2: one score or less. That is not a great place 1043 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 2: to be if you're a Florida State fan. I had 1044 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 2: to deal with this all last year. From a Notre 1045 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,359 Speaker 2: Dame standpoint, I don't wish it upon anybody, but good 1046 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 2: to see Florida State coming out there getting a w. 1047 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 2: I think we've established that the Knowles aren't a playoff 1048 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 2: team at this point, right everyone, everyone, everyone out of 1049 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,760 Speaker 2: the Sun knows that they're not even an acc contender 1050 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 2: given some of their injuries. But it is nice to 1051 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 2: see the Acres and Patrick Combo in the backfield getting 1052 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 2: a lion's share of the work, a lion's share of 1053 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 2: the offense and actually playing pretty well. 1054 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, James Blackman needs to be put in a 1055 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 1: better position, I think to succeed. He does make some 1056 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,800 Speaker 1: good throws, a little sloppy, a little undisciplined, but again 1057 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,320 Speaker 1: he's a freshman. But there are a lot of teams 1058 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 1: relying on freshmen, and Florida State has more available to 1059 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,120 Speaker 1: this offense than I think a lot of teams to 1060 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,240 Speaker 1: do and should be taking advantage in a more creative 1061 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 1: way I think. 1062 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 2: And finally, in the ACC, NC State wins thirty five 1063 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 2: to seventeen over Pit twenty five more passing attempts for 1064 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 2: Ryan Finley that brings him to two twenty three on 1065 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 2: the season and still precisely zero interceptions. 1066 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,799 Speaker 1: Dan Yeah, Naim Hines underrated ACC running back, another nice day. 1067 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 2: NC State is on a bye next week before they 1068 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 2: travel to Notre Dame for what should be a really 1069 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 2: really good matchup. Okay, I'm with it, And finally let's 1070 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:39,400 Speaker 2: go to the Big ten. Ohio State fifty six, Nebraska fourteen. 1071 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 2: The quote of the evening came from a gentleman on 1072 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 2: Twitter by the name of Brent Bloom Brent Blum, excuse me, 1073 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 2: sir if I mispronounced your last name, he tweets out quote. 1074 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,239 Speaker 2: Watching Nebraska is now like seeing a once popular band 1075 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 2: at the free stage at the state Fair. He won 1076 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 2: Twitter yesterday. Congratulations sir. 1077 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 1: Yeah that's rough. 1078 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 2: So our friends over at eleven Warriors had this fun 1079 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 2: little nugget. 1080 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 1: Okay. 1081 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 2: The Buckeys turned it over on downs on their last 1082 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 2: possession in this game. But before that and dating back 1083 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,960 Speaker 2: to twenty sixteen, if you look at the totality of 1084 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 2: what they've done again, before that turnover on downs and 1085 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 2: not counting victory formations, Ohio State had scored on their 1086 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,479 Speaker 2: last eighteen possessions against Nebraska dating back to the twenty 1087 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 2: sixteen game. 1088 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 1: Damn, did you take Nebraska to cover? 1089 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 2: I didn't take Nebraska to cover? Okay, I didn't make 1090 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 2: a pick here. Yeah, not a good look. Not good 1091 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 2: for Mike Riley, not good. 1092 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 1: Bady. Don't think he's gonna it. Doesn't seem like he's 1093 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 1: going to be the coach next year. 1094 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 2: Michigan State thirty Minnesota twenty seven. I am going to 1095 00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 2: go ahead and pencil in Michigan State. Yeah, I'm gonna 1096 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 2: do it. My best bad team in the country. 1097 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 1: What what makes them bad? 1098 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 2: I don't think they're very good. 1099 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 1: Well, Minnesota is all right, secretly well j Scott finally 1100 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 1: had a breakthrough game for Sparti. I'm I'm willing to 1101 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 1: believe in Michigan State a little longer. So Michigan State 1102 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 1: the rest of the way, they're what's the record right now? 1103 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 1: Their rank, they're five, and they're gonna be a top 1104 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 1: twenty after going on the road and beating Minnesota. And 1105 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,920 Speaker 1: I did tell you to take Minnesota in the points 1106 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 1: plus four. It turned out all right. They play Indiana, 1107 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, tricky but certainly beatable barely if you're Michigan 1108 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 1: to Northwestern. They host Penn State, which is advantageous. They 1109 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 1: don't have to put a happy valley. They go to 1110 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 1: Ohio State, which honestly tie. We've seen worse Michigan State teams. Okay, 1111 00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 1: all right, Maryland and Rutgers, so we assumed. So they 1112 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 1: have four games left against teams they can likely beat 1113 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 1: marilynd Rutgers, Northwestern, Indiana, right, Okay? That put them at nine, 1114 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 1: worst case eight, right, okay, probably so worst case eight 1115 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 1: and four is pretty good. 1116 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 2: I don't think they're that good, they might get eight wins. 1117 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 2: I don't think they're that good. 1118 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 1: I mean eight from three is good. 1119 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 2: I don't think they're that good. 1120 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 1: All Right, we disagree. 1121 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna lose to Indiana. WHOA okay, Michigan 1122 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 2: twenty seven Indiana twenty This one went to overtime. Indiana's 1123 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 2: overtime play calling a work of fine art. I'd say 1124 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 2: four running plays, two rollouts back against the grain for 1125 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 2: righty quarterback. It did not work out for them. John o'corn, 1126 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 2: speaking of things didn't work out. He was ten for 1127 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 2: twenty passing for a hardy fifty eight yards. Nice game 1128 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 2: for Karan Higden two hundred yards, three touchdowns. But Michigan's 1129 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 2: still a lot of work to do offensively. 1130 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, undisciplined a bit on defense, which is a little 1131 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 1: bit rare to see for Michigan. And sort of watching 1132 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 1: this game in the Wisconsin game, they're sort of blending 1133 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 1: into the same thing I was talking with Richard earlier, 1134 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 1: just calling it Misconsin. Yeah, because when you have a 1135 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 1: huge performance from a running back, you're talking about both teams. 1136 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Kron Higden was magnificent, huge play after huge play, Struggling 1137 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 1: at quarterback. Defense looking mostly very good, better in the 1138 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:41,120 Speaker 1: case of Wisconsin than Michigan yesterday. But Michigan's offense is 1139 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 1: not fun to watch at all. Speaking of like just 1140 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 1: sort of simulate to the next possession. 1141 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 2: Well, two of thirteen on third downs. They also had 1142 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,520 Speaker 2: sixteen penalties for one hundred and forty one yards. That 1143 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 2: will not be good enough against Penn State this coming weekend. 1144 01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 2: That will not be good against Ohio State later in 1145 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 2: the year. Wins in overtime. Okay, you mentioned Wisconsin seventeen 1146 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 2: to nine over Perdue. This was my hey, keep it 1147 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 2: in your perfree kind of game of the week. Wisconsin 1148 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 2: was a seventeen point favorite here. You know, Perdue is 1149 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 2: gonna take a while to get there. I think in 1150 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 2: terms of a betting entity, Perdue is vastly underrated at 1151 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 2: this point. I'm content to take the points whenever I 1152 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 2: can get them. With Purdue, they forced three turnovers in 1153 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,400 Speaker 2: this game. They took Wisconsin into the fourth quarter. I 1154 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 2: am content to ride. Wow, ride with my boiler Makers. 1155 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 3: Baby. 1156 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 2: I'm in the back of that train. I'm shoveling col 1157 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 2: in the engine. Let's do it. 1158 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still not crazy about Elijah Sindelar. But it 1159 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 1: is the Wisconsin defense, and I thought Purdue defensively. We 1160 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 1: talked about this before, like what was the one thing 1161 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 1: if Purdue is decent at that you'd be encouraged against 1162 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 1: Wisconsin at least to take the points, and that was 1163 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 1: stopping the run. They didn't stop Jonathan Taylor tailback because Tie, 1164 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 1: nobody does who does, right, But they did a good 1165 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 1: job against everybody else and just as a whole, I 1166 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 1: think the Purdue shut Wisconsin out in the second half 1167 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 1: pretty much. Yeah, I believe they did. So Purdue is feisty, 1168 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 1: Wisconsin is good. Worried about Alex Hornerbrook, I'm a broken record. 1169 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,160 Speaker 1: I did just the mistakes, the weird arm. I'm just 1170 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 1: not with it at all. Tie. So Wisconsin's schedule is wonderful. 1171 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 1: They will win double digit games. But I am very 1172 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 1: high on on Jonathan Taylor tailback and the defense. Not 1173 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 1: much else. 1174 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 2: Can I do an early lock on Purdue at Rutgers 1175 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 2: next week perdue minus whatever? 1176 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, absolutely Rutgers won though yesterday did they not? 1177 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 5: They did? 1178 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,919 Speaker 2: They did? They knocked off Illinois thirty five to twenty four, 1179 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 2: and to round out the Big Ten, Northwestern thirty seven, 1180 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 2: Maryland twenty one. 1181 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 1: Hey, Northwestern three and three. 1182 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 2: The other two games we should mention that we will 1183 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,600 Speaker 2: mention Memphis knocked off Navy in a good one thirty 1184 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 2: to twenty seven. Navy had previously been undefeated. 1185 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: The American is a great TV show. Oh my good Americans. 1186 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 1: The American Conference is fun TV. 1187 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:19,320 Speaker 2: And Boise knocked off a previously undefeated San Diego State. 1188 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 1: A big welcome back to Boise State. Did you see 1189 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 1: the tweet from Don L. Pumphrey, obviously record setting star 1190 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 1: San Diego State back who has now moved on to 1191 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 1: the next level. He said, man, really wish got to 1192 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 1: play Boise in San Diego when I was still there, 1193 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 1: especially without Jeremy McNichols like automatic w Okay. So yeah, 1194 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 1: good Bois's back at least for now. 1195 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,919 Speaker 2: Well, it was a fun week of games, to say 1196 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 2: the least. We had a ton of upsets, close games, 1197 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:57,160 Speaker 2: even ones that weren't upsets. Our stack keeper Matt doing 1198 01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 2: yeoman's work keeping track of all of our goofy picks. 1199 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:00,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 1200 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 2: He has now filtered out FBS versus Patriot League, and 1201 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 2: by his count, you are at forty six point eight percent. 1202 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 2: That's right, and I am currently zero point nine percent 1203 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 2: behind you at forty five point nine percent loser. It's 1204 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 2: very very close. Right now. We've got half a season 1205 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 2: left to really assert our dominance, and I feel very 1206 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 2: strong about the week ahead, Dan, I feel very strong 1207 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 2: about the week ahead. It's a good week of games. 1208 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,840 Speaker 2: We got two really solid night games Penn State Michigan 1209 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 2: Notre Dame USC. We will talk about those while we 1210 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 2: do our Wednesday show. But hard to think that we 1211 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 2: could have another week that tops Week seven. 1212 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and Ballsey to come after the altar of Dan. 1213 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 1: I'll hand it to you. 1214 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 2: Come at the King. You best not miss. 1215 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,680 Speaker 1: I know that, Ty. You should also know this. There 1216 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,840 Speaker 1: is one Patriot League team yet to lose in pat 1217 01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 1: League play. That would be your Lee High Mountain Hawk 1218 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 1: Engineers Boom roasted fifty four to thirty five over Georgetown 1219 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 1: two and five overall, So you know, up and down. 1220 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 2: But hey, I picked four of five Patriot League games correct. 1221 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 1: By just going against the Patriot this weekend right other 1222 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,439 Speaker 1: action that's just of note, Tie, I mean, you mentioned 1223 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 1: the Virginia thing being five and one, but South Alabama 1224 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 1: beat Troy, which was out of nowhere. I think that 1225 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,360 Speaker 1: was Wednesday night. Troy beat LSU and loses South Alabama. 1226 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 1: That's college football. Temple might be bad. 1227 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 2: They're really bad. 1228 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah really because they just lost to Yukon at home. Okay, 1229 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:43,040 Speaker 1: so can't be doing that. Iowa State we just sort 1230 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 1: of glossed over. But they shut out Kansas. Gotta be 1231 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,320 Speaker 1: better than that, Kansas, because Iowa State's good, but you 1232 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't be shut out by them. Now, air Force UNLV 1233 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,520 Speaker 1: kind of a bad game, but air Force one, and 1234 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they'll keep improving. But b blah blah 1235 01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 1: blah blah. As I scroll through here, there's not a lot. 1236 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,920 Speaker 1: I mean, the Mountain West has gotten fun. Northern Illinois, 1237 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 1: who that beat Nebraska earlier on in the season. They 1238 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 1: edge out Buffalo. Let down spot for Buffalo after that 1239 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 1: crazy Western Michigan game, But Northern Illinois very under the radar, 1240 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:18,680 Speaker 1: excellent defense, really really really efficient defense, and I wanted 1241 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,280 Speaker 1: to shout that out. Ohio got a huge performance from 1242 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 1: their quarterback, who I believe is Canadian. 1243 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:23,520 Speaker 3: Tie. 1244 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,720 Speaker 1: I believe he's Canadian. So Frank Sulichen the Bobcats move 1245 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 1: on there, Logan Woodside. 1246 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,760 Speaker 2: Tie, quarterback of the Solid Verbal. 1247 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 1: Quarterback of the Solid Verbal has a pretty underwhelming game 1248 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 1: with Toledo beat Central Michigan. Telsa out of nowhere has 1249 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:46,280 Speaker 1: been very bad. They kill Houston, so there are changes happening. 1250 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,120 Speaker 1: Wyoming gotta win. Wyoming is four and two, quietly because 1251 01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: they were god awful to start the year. At State 1252 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 1: keeps on churning. They haven't lost in the Sun Belt yet. 1253 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 1: UAB tie should be mentioned. They have a football team 1254 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:03,120 Speaker 1: again and they're already four and two. Boom, that's not 1255 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 1: bad at all. No, they beat Mitsu. New Mexico State 1256 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 1: is totally decent. They beat Georgia Southern North Texas UTSA 1257 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 1: a battle of teams that have coaches that are probably 1258 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,160 Speaker 1: gonna get big jobs in the next two or three years. 1259 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 1: North Texas was god awful like three years ago. Ty 1260 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,160 Speaker 1: They're four and two, haven't lost in conference USA. Arkansas 1261 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 1: State keeps on winning and that's pretty much all I have. 1262 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,920 Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, they've updated the stats. Khalil 1263 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 2: Tate has more rushing yards than Ronald Jones so far 1264 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:38,160 Speaker 2: this year. Oh my god, just thirty nine attempts. Future 1265 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy winner. 1266 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 1: All right, I do have a list of dudes if 1267 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:43,200 Speaker 1: you would. 1268 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:46,320 Speaker 3: Give it to me. 1269 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Speaking of which, Khalil Tate quarterback Arizona Everything Arizona is 1270 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 1: most certainly a dude. Nikhil Harry wide receiver for Arizona 1271 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,920 Speaker 1: State came up big in a low scoring but big 1272 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,520 Speaker 1: win over Washington. Wide receiver for the Sun Devils. Jordan 1273 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,960 Speaker 1: Ellis had a great day for Virginia on the ground. 1274 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup and a totally underrated receiver we've mentioned before 1275 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 1: for Colorado State. Karn Higden Michigan two hundred yards wonderful. 1276 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 1: Eric Dungee no relation, all sensation quarterback for Syracuse and 1277 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,640 Speaker 1: the huge upset overclems A. Dj Wanham defensive end for 1278 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,720 Speaker 1: South Carolina, very disruptive, the stand for jack rabbit that 1279 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 1: got on the field time Yeah yeah, total dude running 1280 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 1: all over the place. Took about nineteen Oregon players to 1281 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,719 Speaker 1: corral him on the sideline. Rodrigo Blancanship wonderful name kicker 1282 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 1: for Georgia. 1283 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:32,639 Speaker 2: It sounds like fake name. 1284 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 1: It does sound very fake that I would check into 1285 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:39,240 Speaker 1: a hotel if I were extremely famous under Rodrigo Blankenship. 1286 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,160 Speaker 1: Darryl Langham, the receiver for Miami, had a nice game. 1287 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,519 Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb. Something very awful happened to his finger and 1288 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:50,880 Speaker 1: he came back pretty quickly, so I appreciate that. Else 1289 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,680 Speaker 1: do we have Junkyard Jym obviously, I mean, we got 1290 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,640 Speaker 1: to have a graveyard for these dudes because they're just 1291 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:59,000 Speaker 1: too successful, too consistent. But Oklahoma State receiver I think 1292 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 1: two urndred thirty five yards to the air. Nathan Rourke 1293 01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:02,840 Speaker 1: is the name of that Ohio quarterback who had a 1294 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,400 Speaker 1: great day, Damian Harris. You know, it's easy to say, 1295 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 1: well he's at Alabama and you know everybody it's interchange, 1296 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,280 Speaker 1: but they're all excellent. Damien Harris is excellent, and I 1297 01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:11,880 Speaker 1: think he had nine carries for one hundred and some 1298 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,240 Speaker 1: odd yards. And jj ar Sega Whiteside. It is rare 1299 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,880 Speaker 1: that a Stanford receiver gets shouted outed, but he was 1300 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,479 Speaker 1: very good against Oregon, a decent defense against Oregon. And 1301 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:22,639 Speaker 1: those are your dudes. 1302 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,760 Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you to everyone for listening. Please 1303 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 2: do tell your friends. You can find us at soliverbal 1304 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:33,759 Speaker 2: dot com. We're also on iTunes and Google, Spotify, anywhere 1305 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 2: you can find a podcast. Check us out. Also go 1306 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 2: to the Facebook page Facebook dot com slash solid verbal. 1307 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,040 Speaker 2: We've got videos going up a couple times a week here, 1308 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,519 Speaker 2: just to wet your appetite for the week ahead. Talk 1309 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 2: a little bit more about the week that was. We 1310 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 2: will be back on Wednesday. We will preview a very 1311 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:57,559 Speaker 2: active slate of Week eight college football games. In the meantime, 1312 01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 2: for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein. 1313 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 2: For myself, well, all the way over here now in Town, PA, 1314 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 2: my name is Hilda. Bring talking if agains. They saw 1315 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 2: Grace 1316 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:20,400 Speaker 1: H