1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, sitting alongside my trusted colleague Wes Hodkuwitz. 3 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Were coming to you here from our studios at Lambeo 4 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: Field and West were another day closer to Packers Cowboys 5 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Sunday in Dallas, a T and T Stadium, Central time kickoff. 6 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: Pretty much a nationally televised game from what I understand 7 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: pretty much about it, but the whole country is gonna 8 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: see this one in a really neat little part of 9 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: that as well. I was confirming this with our boss, 10 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: Duke Bober. It actually will be. You can be streamed 11 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: live online as well, because it's open to the entire 12 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: national viewing public as well. A lot of eyeballs on 13 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: this game, Yes, they're will be a lot of eyeballs 14 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: on this game, and for good reason. Not just because 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: of the Packers and the Cowboys and their fan bases. 16 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: But it's two teams that are three and one and 17 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: one of these teams, both of these teams fighting to 18 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: get to four and one. One of them will get there. 19 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: And with regards to the Packers, as Green Baby began 20 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: its practice week on Wednesday, to prepare for this game. 21 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: Some good news on the injury front in that right 22 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: tackle Brian Blaga was back on the practice field limited 23 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: capacity due to the shoulder injury, but having him back 24 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: at practice with a lot of uncertainty elsewhere. And we'll 25 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: get into some of the ramifications here as well, but 26 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: Jamal Williams didn't practice. He's in the concussion protocol. Davante 27 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: Adams did not practice, still dealing with the toe injury. 28 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: The fact that the fact that Blaga was back out 29 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: there and you can go into a really really tough 30 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: road environment with those two book ends potentially in box 31 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: tr and Bolaga to handle those edge rushers Robert Quinn 32 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: and to Marcus Lawrence, that could be a really really 33 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: big factor in this game for Green Bay. On equivocally, 34 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's going to be critical, I think for 35 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: the Packers to have Bulaga available. Now we're shooting this 36 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: before Thursday's padded practice. We see exactly what he's able 37 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: to do if he's able to go for that. But 38 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: the fact when you're coming off an injury that sidelines 39 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: you for the rest of the ballgame. You and I 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: have been doing this long enough, you don't always anticipate 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: seeing those guys at Wednesday's practice and Bilaga was out there. 42 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: And you know, I was talking a couple of weeks 43 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: ago when I wrote the story about him, and we 44 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: were discussing some of the history of him in Green Bay. 45 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I really think his toughness gets overlooked by 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people and what he's played through. There 47 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: have been some injuries, but he's also played at a 48 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: pretty high level through uh, you know, a course of 49 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: different setbacks. So right now, I tip my cap to 50 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: Alex lde. I thought he did a really nice job 51 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: trying to come in there allowing the packers other for 52 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: offensive linemen to stay in their best spot. But everybody knows, 53 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: I mean, this line is at its best when Brian 54 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: blog is available, and in that environment, with the communication 55 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: issues that could be in play with how allowed it 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: gets within in a T and T stadium, I think 57 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: could be really important for them to have Blogger for 58 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, and you said that his toughness can 59 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: get overlooked at times, because he is a guy who 60 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: in the course of his career has missed some time 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: with significant injuries. But what's gotten overlooked are the times 62 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: that he has played through a lot of things that 63 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: would sideline other players, and Aaron Rodgers commented on this 64 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: Wednesday after practice that he gives Brian Bulaga a lot 65 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: of credit for the things that he has fought through 66 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: over the years to be out there to help the team. 67 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: It's it's certainly a pride thing with him. It's a 68 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: pride thing for a lot of players in the locker 69 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: room to do whatever it takes to get ready to go. 70 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: But Rogers specifically pointed out Bolaga and Davante Adams in 71 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: this respect, because even as Adams has not yet returned 72 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: to the practice field, nobody is necessarily ruling him out 73 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: quite yet for Sunday. It's still a wait and see 74 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: thing there. And Rogers said, they're just some guys who 75 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: are who are born with the type of toughness, the 76 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: type of dedication and the personal drive that they will 77 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: do whatever it takes to get out there. And uh, 78 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: and he certainly complimented both Bolaga and Adams on that 79 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: aspect of what they bring to the locker room. Yeah, 80 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: so two different things here. If blog is able to 81 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: go on, Sundy will actually his hundred career start already. 82 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: Regular season started, so a nice little feather in his 83 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: cap being able to accomplish that from Davante Adams, It's 84 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: very interesting when you look at his story what has 85 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: become his story over the last five years. You it 86 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: is impossible to beat the horse anymore dead than it 87 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: already is about what happened in two thousand. There is 88 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: no moisture left in that thing. I mean, it is done. 89 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 1: But the one thing that very few people talk about 90 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: is what he battled through that year. Then. First I 91 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: believe it was the ankle, then it was the knee injury, 92 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: and I think it was Rogers even comments and he 93 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: basically was playing on one leg for most of that season. 94 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: But yet he went out there and not once a 95 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: of than what the injury report said. Not once did 96 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: he ever go to his locker and make excuses about it, 97 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: never said it was an issue until the following year. 98 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, would it surprise me if you played. 99 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I mean, because I think he's put that 100 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: out there that, you know what, he'll lay it on 101 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: the line for the team. What the Packers have to 102 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: balance here is trying to get him healthy as possible 103 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: as soon as possible, because we're still another month away, 104 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: actually about five weeks away, I think from the byeway 105 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: from the bye weekend, So there is a lot of 106 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: ground to cover here. There are some road trips coming in, 107 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: you get the extra day coming after this, you know, 108 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: going into the Troy game. But you know you've got 109 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: to be smart with Davante Adams too, So seeing exactly 110 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: what that plan is going to be. I know a 111 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: lot of the young guys in the locker room at 112 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: that position talking about if we need to step up, 113 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: we're ready to do it because you know, you want 114 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: to have Davonte Ams for this game, but you also 115 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: want to have him for the whole season. That's the 116 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: question the Packers will have to answer going into Sunday. Yeah, 117 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: well that will be the interesting thing as this game 118 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: unfolds on Sunday with regards to you set some of 119 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: these younger skill position players who don't have a lot 120 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: of experience, but potentially we'll be called upon at the 121 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: receiver position if Adams can't play. You're looking at guys 122 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: like Jake Kumero, who obviously played last year, but he's 123 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: missed the last two games now, he hasn't really gotten 124 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: a whole lot of snaps so far in twenty nineteen, 125 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: and then the guys like Alan Lazard and Darius Shepard 126 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: at wide receiver who are on the field down the 127 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: stretch against the Philadelphia Eagles when Adams had exited with 128 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 1: that toe injury, and then you look at the running 129 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: back position. If Jamal Williams does not get cleared through 130 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: the concussion protocol to be active for Sunday, Dexter Williams 131 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: the rookie sixth round draft pick out of Notre Dame. 132 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: He's been a healthy scratch the first four weeks. He's 133 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: been one of the seven game day inactives when you 134 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: pair the roster down from fifty three to forty six 135 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: for game day. He has not been on a game 136 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: day forty six yet, but signs certainly pointing to that 137 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: very stink possibility, and he could get thrown under the 138 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: fire right away, yeah, because you know, with with Williams, 139 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: you're gonna want to be careful with that. Packers have 140 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: not made any comment yet on what his forecast is. 141 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: It's just nice to see him around the building. But 142 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: concussion protocol is a concussion protocol, and he was a 143 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: non participant on Wednesday, So that being said, it opened 144 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: up a lot of opportunities for Dexter Williams to be 145 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: that number two back right now to Aaron Jones. And 146 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: you know, Williams is a very modest guy. I mean, 147 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: he's not clamoring for snaps. He's saying he's staying ready 148 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: if he needs to be ready. But the most poignant 149 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: comments I felt were actually when we were chatting with 150 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: Ben Sermons last week, the Packers running backs coach, on Friday, 151 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: and he said, you know, you don't know until you know. 152 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: You need to get him out in a game to 153 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: actually see, okay, has he fully ingested everything, but from 154 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: his bandage point in the classroom, seeing him in practice, 155 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: he feels like he's seen a guy in the tour 156 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: with his football i Q and what's being asked of 157 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: him and his assignments. He says he doesn't have a 158 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: concern with him right now with his pass protection. Certainly 159 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: there are elements of his game. He's not a finished, 160 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: polished product, but in terms of where he's come in 161 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: the last four or five months, Sermons feels like it's significant. 162 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: Make no mistakes, This is still the Aaron Jones Show, 163 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: and it will be the Aaron Jones show on Sunday, 164 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: but Jones played sixty six of seventy nine snaps last week. 165 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: Danny vitally spelled him a little bit in a couple 166 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: of third down situations, but for the most part, it 167 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: was all Aaron Jones. You're gonna want to be smart 168 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: with that. So if Dexter Williams needs to get called 169 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: upon for a handful of snaps here, and they're even 170 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: a designed run or two, that's gonna be something they're 171 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: gonna need him to do. Because, to be perfectly honest 172 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: with you, if you take away the past protection and 173 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: some of the issues with his drops, I was really 174 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: impressed with him as a runner, as a natural runner 175 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: during the training camp. You could see the explosiveness as 176 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: a really quick first step when he's running between the tackles. 177 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: It's just finding the elements, the other elements of the 178 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: game and rounding those out. Yeah, exactly, That's what I 179 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: was going to say. It's about it's about rounding out 180 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: those other facets for him to become a complete player, 181 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: because when he's playing running back and taking and offs, 182 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: he looks like he belongs. He's looked like he has 183 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: belonged in the NFL from day one in that regard. 184 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: But we saw through training camp in the preseason some 185 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: issues with trying to catch passes out of the backfield, 186 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: some issues with past protection. Those are the things that 187 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: he needs to work on to get his game to 188 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: the level where he has the complete trust of the 189 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: offensive coaches. Of quarterback Aaron Rodgers. This is one of 190 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: those things that to me is interesting, especially when you're 191 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: talking about two defensive coaches for the Dallas Cowboys. I 192 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: almost said the wrong team name there for the Dallas 193 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys who have been around a long time, been doing 194 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: this a long time, and I'm talking about Rod Marinelli 195 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: and Chris Richard, who are the coordinator play caller. However, 196 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: you want to divide those duties between those two guys. 197 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: But you just wonder, Okay, if they see Dexter Williams 198 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: come into the huddle as the lone running back, they 199 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: know this guy's a rookie, they know he hasn't been 200 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: on a game day forty six. Does that prompt a 201 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: blitz caller? What what are they going to do to 202 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: test him? Because this game is all about matchups and 203 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: the coordinators, the coaches who are calling plays and stuff. 204 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: It's always about personnel. It's about who's in, who's in 205 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: witch huddle and one are the matchups we can take 206 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: advantage of. So you have to know that Dexter Williams 207 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: is going to be honest, P's and Ques with blitz 208 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: pick up. You can't just hope that you can put 209 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: them in there and then they're not going to blitz, 210 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: because there's a good chance they will. So this is 211 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: what I like about Matt Lafleur's system, though Mike McCarthy 212 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: at the end of it, a lot of times you 213 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: needed those guys to be three down running backs because 214 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: they wanted to stay with the no huddle. They wanted 215 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: to be able to just stick with eleven personnel a 216 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: lot of times, and okay, that's what you're running. With 217 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur. It's a lot more inviting I think for 218 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: a young running back. That's no disrespect of McCarthy system. 219 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: It worked great. But with the floor I think you 220 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: can bring in Dexter Williams. You can have Danny Vitally 221 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: in the backfield. You can run play action off of that. 222 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: You can get the wheel route going again with Vitality, 223 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: you can get the tight ends incorporated you can bring 224 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 1: it in a little bit more than when it was 225 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: really spread out pass pass protection at a premium shotgun 226 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: pistol type formations. That's where I think you could get 227 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: Williams going. And then the other aspect of it, too, 228 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: is that Matt Lafleur is not He has no reservations whatsoever. 229 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: If you followed the offense the last three weeks. He's 230 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: willing to change personnel after first down, second down. He 231 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: can mix and match there, whereas with McCarthy was a 232 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: lot of times sitting in those same packages. And Okay, 233 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: if you're the first down running back, you've got to 234 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: be ready to be past protecting on third and three 235 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: as well. So that is the one area that I 236 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: think could allow dexter Williams to come in and maybe 237 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: have a specific game plan role if he's if that's 238 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: what they feel they want to do. The one aspect 239 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: of it, though, as you point out, is you want 240 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: to make sure there aren't those tells there when you 241 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: do introduce a new player that Okay, this is what 242 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: they're running and this is how they're going to try 243 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: to do it right and and and then the other 244 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: side is saying, okay, we know what they're gonna run 245 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: if if there's a tendency involved there, so what's our 246 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: best way to attack that and to get them out 247 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: of that plan. So that's the kind of chess match 248 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: that goes on throughout four quarters of NFL game. And 249 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: just to touch quickly on the receiver situation, Let's say 250 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, Davante Adams doesn't go if I'm going 251 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: to be Chris Richard or if I'm gonna be you know, 252 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: Rod Marinell, you're looking at the scheme, I think the 253 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: natural thing would be keeping more safety attention over to 254 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: Marcus Veldees Scantling. Let's say they do that, because I 255 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: think when you get Davante and MVS going at the 256 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: same time, that's the danger, right because Davante can draw 257 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: the extra tension and MVS can beat people one on 258 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: one down the field. If that is the direction they go, 259 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: And this is the scenario that plays out a lot 260 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: of hypotheticals here. That's when it comes down to guys 261 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: winning their one on ones. I don't care if you're 262 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: a tight end. I don't care if you're a receiver. 263 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: I don't care if you're Dexter Williams or Aaron Jones, 264 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: Danny Vitally, you have to win your one on one 265 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: matchups in the run game, in the past game, and 266 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: you have to be able to have multiple players step up. 267 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: If they're gonna draw attention to one guy, that's gonna 268 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: be the biggest key here, depending on exactly how this 269 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: situation unfolds with Adams this week. Yeah, and another thing 270 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: I want to mention too, with regards to the receivers. 271 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: Darius Shephard, the undrafted rookie from North Dakota State. We 272 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: all know the last what turned out to be the 273 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: last play of the game against the Philadelphia Eagles, they 274 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: were running a two man route with MVS and Shepherd 275 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: and Rogers decided to go quick with the slant to MVS. 276 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: The ball gets deflected up in the air, intercepted past 277 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: interference probably, but it's water under the bridge. But Rogers 278 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: said immediately after the game, Hey, if I hold the 279 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: ball a tick longer, Darius Shepherd's wide open in the corner, 280 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: we get that game tied up. You know we're going overtime. 281 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: Larry McCarron pointed out something in our Three Things video 282 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: that we did after practice yesterday where he was looking 283 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: at the film and saw a play late in the 284 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: game where Shepherd was at receiver after Adams had exited 285 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: the game, and it was a play that was an 286 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: incomplete pass to Geronimo Whiles, and he was the primary read. 287 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: Rogers went there right away and it was incomplete, but 288 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: Darius Shepherd had completely beaten his man and was opened 289 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: down the seam. Now, the reason I point that out 290 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: is because when it comes to the film room, Aaron 291 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: Rodgers doesn't miss a thing he knows on that play 292 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: now heading into Dallas, on that play, that formation that 293 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: Darius Shepherd beat his man and was open and so 294 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: and then obviously, as I mentioned before, the last play 295 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: of the game, he was open for the touchdown as well. 296 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of things that Aaron Rodgers files 297 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: away in the back of his mind. And if Darius 298 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: Shepherd is thrown into a significant role in the game 299 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: on Sunday, those are the types of plays that Aaron 300 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: Rodgers will be thinking about. It's a great point, obviously, 301 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: a wonderful observation from Larry as well, bringing being able 302 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: to you know, kind of pinpoint that this is also 303 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: what makes I think Geroni Way Allison so valuable to 304 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: this offense and what they want to do. We talked 305 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: all offseason about him being in the slot, but he 306 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: can play boundary, you know, perimeter as well, So that 307 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: allows you to potentially mix and match their go with 308 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: Shepherd more in the slot, because I think you we'd 309 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: all agree that that's where he's probably gonna make his 310 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: money in this league, is operating, and that that proxy 311 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: those close proximity, close quarters. And I dude, we saw 312 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: it all summer long. I mean, yes, you have to 313 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: keep into account in these preseason games the type of 314 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: competition he was facing. But Darius Shepard was with the 315 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: one offense, you know, basically from O. T. A. S on. 316 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: He was getting rotated in there. He did it throughout 317 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: training camp. He knows what it's like to be in 318 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: there against the likes of Tremont Williams and Jr. Alexander 319 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: and the upper echelon of that position in this league. 320 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this right now, if he ends up 321 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: being called upon against Dallas or in these weeks to come, 322 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: regardless of what the situation is with Adams, that situation 323 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: is not gonna be too big for that young man. Yeah, 324 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: here's another thing I want to get your opinion on 325 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: quickly before we go today because I'm gonna potentially write 326 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: about this a little bit later in the week. And 327 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about is the Packers run of success 328 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: in that building, a T and T Stadium, whether you're 329 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: talking about Super Bowl forty five, the Matt Flynn come 330 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: back in thirteen, the playoff game at the in the 331 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: sixteen postseason January of seen, and then the seventeen regular 332 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: season game Packers have won four straight there. Now, the 333 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: games in sixteen and seven ten are obviously the most 334 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: recent ones. So when you're talking about guys like veteran 335 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: guys like Corey Linsley, David Box, tr Brian Bulaga, Blake Martinez, 336 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark, guys like that who were part of those 337 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: games and part of those big victories, I'm just curious 338 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: what you're feeling is on how much confidence do guys 339 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: like that walk into a building with when they're in 340 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: a venue where they've experienced not just success, but significant, 341 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: big victories. I'm just wondering, from a psyche standpoint, what 342 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: does that do Because they're not going to stand there 343 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: in the locker room and say, you know, to put 344 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: something on the bulletin board for the Cowboys, like, yeah, 345 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: we we definitely believe we walk in the building, we're 346 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: gonna win the game. But I think there's something to it. 347 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe there isn't. I'm gonna be careful 348 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: with this analogy. Okay, I'm about to use, but I 349 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: do want to make a point off it. I'm not 350 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: trying to illustrate anything and taking out of context. But 351 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: we like to walk our dog, Kevin. He's a wonderful 352 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: little pup. We go over to Voyager Park. Okay, Kevin 353 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: has certain areas of that park that he has been 354 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: to before and he has maybe marked and he always 355 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: darts for those same trees. I'm not trying to say 356 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: that that's what the green Bay Packers have done, but 357 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: there is a familiarity quite any here. There is a 358 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: familiarity for a lot of those veterans with a T 359 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: and T stadium and you cannot tell me. And this 360 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: goes both ways. There's been places too. I mean, we 361 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: talked about US Bank and how different Ford Field recently 362 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: has been difficult, but there's a lot of positive memories 363 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: right now for the Green Bay Packers and a T 364 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: and T stadium, that venue. For those veteran players, it's 365 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: not just victories, it's comebacks, it's emotional wins, it's playoff victories. 366 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: They are as big and as important as they get 367 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: in this league. And the number one player that's that 368 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: stems from all that is Aaron Rodgers. He has seen 369 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: it all, He's done it all in that stadium. And again, 370 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: when you have that type of you know, recall experience. 371 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's going to be decided the outcome 372 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: in this game. We know that these things can shift 373 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: on a dime, But in terms of confidence going in 374 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: there and understanding the venue and knowing what you're looking for, 375 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: there's a number of players in this team from different 376 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: generations and versions of the Packers that have experienced that 377 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: success in there and they want to taste it again 378 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Yeah. And the other thing Rogers pointed out 379 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: to that I thought was interesting is in all of 380 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: the Packers trips into that stadium. Obviously, the Super Bowl 381 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: was a whole different uh can of worms, so to speak, 382 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: because it wasn't against the Dallas Cowboys. It's the it's 383 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: the crowd you know at a Super Bowl, but in 384 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: the other the other games, one where Rodgers is on 385 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: the sideline because Matt Flynn is playing, and then the 386 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: other two. In recent years, there's been a pretty decent 387 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: Packers following that that has you know, gotten its hands 388 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: on tickets and and shown up. And the Packers have 389 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: heard those fans at at a T and T stadium, 390 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: Now that's a it's a huge stadium, massive crowd, and 391 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: yes it gets loud in there, it doesn't get as 392 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: loud as some of the more compact indoor stadiums. I 393 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: think that we've that we've seen in the league just 394 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: because the places is so massive. But those Packers fans 395 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: have made themselves heard, and I think with the start 396 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: the Packers have gotten off to this year, I would 397 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: expect there will be a similar you know, Packer contingent 398 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: in the stands on something. I think so, And especially 399 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: since we have our Pepper Rally on Saturday night and 400 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be revved up from getting their Mike Spofford autographs, 401 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: so they're gonna want to go and here on the 402 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: football team after that. Sure, No, But here's the other 403 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: thing too, Mike. I mean, you've got snowbirds that that 404 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, lived down in the you know, South Arizona 405 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: and those type of things, so it's a really easy, 406 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: easy trip. There's people from Green Bay that enjoy making 407 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: that little, that little jaunt uh south, especially as the 408 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: temperatures start to cool off here. And then the other 409 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: thing is to Dallas is a great area, Dallas, Arlington, 410 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: all that that surrounding spot. I've always loved being down there. 411 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: I've been to say, you know, San Antonio a couple 412 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: of times. I mean, it's just neat experience, and especially 413 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: with how much they appreciate football down there, and you 414 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: are talking about all one of a kind stadium with 415 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: the big fifty yard jumbo fifty yard wide jumbo tron 416 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: in the middle of the field and the whole deal. 417 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: It really is. It's an interesting place. What makes it 418 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: so awesome, though, Mike, it's almost like a city unto 419 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: itself when you get over by a T and T. 420 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: This isn't There's so many places We go to Pittsburgh 421 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: and they're wonderful stadiums, Hines Field and they are just 422 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: they are smack dab downtown. I think Baltimore is like that. 423 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of areas where it's just it's the 424 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: stadium in the city, the way that they built a 425 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: T and T. It's sort of just out by itself 426 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: and next to the baseball Stags where but you're not 427 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: in like downtown down for that reason. It's just it's 428 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: it's like its own community. And the times I've been 429 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: to the Press Gazette when I used to work there, 430 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: we go out and we do periscopes and Facebook lives 431 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: out in the crowd, you know, out in the parking lot, 432 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 1: and it never was very contentious. It's always really inviting 433 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: as bitter as that rival was back in the nineties, 434 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying it's still not heated now. It's 435 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: just it's a really cool atmosphere be a part of. 436 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: So if I'm a Packers fan, long answer to a 437 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: short question, that's why I'd be interested in going that, 438 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,239 Speaker 1: just because it is such a cool experience. I think 439 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: anyone should everyone should, you know, check out at least once. Well, 440 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: I think for a week five early October NFL game. 441 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: I think it's going to have quite the atmosphere. And 442 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: as we started off talking about on the show, the 443 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: whole country is going to get to see it, whether 444 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: you're in the stadium, or whether you're at home, or 445 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: whether you're riding a bus with your phone in your hand, 446 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: you can catch this game, right, So there's gonna be 447 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of fans watching this one 448 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: for Hackers dot com, so you can check that one out. 449 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: So what an era, Mike? Here we go all right? 450 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: Well with that, we'll call it a wrap on this 451 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted. 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