1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: your twenty four seventh home of the Black and Gold 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: SNR Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: he is Matt Williamson, and this is the Drive on 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt Matt Miller, who's work we've 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: already referenced in today's show, put out a little list 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: here and I think you sent me something similar to 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: this a couple of months ago, or maybe a month ago, 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: of the linebackers take it in the first round? Oh yeah, 10 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: drafts months ago, and Miller titled this was a tweet 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: that he put out. He said for all then that 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: don't draft running back in the first round. Talk not 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: drafting a linebacker might be a better conversation, absolutely, because 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: the first round running backs usually hit. They're at least 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: good players. They may not be worth the money, and 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: you can the opportunity cause than all those thing they 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: rarely just bomb, you know, not the football play Trent. 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: The Trent Richardson's are very few and far between. Without question. Yeah, 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: I wrote this article halfway through the season or maybe 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: even earlier, and it wasn't excusing Bush, but it was 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: also explaining that this is not unique. It's not a 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: science drafting linebackers in the first round because again, you 23 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: much like cornerbacks, and maybe even more so than cornerbacks. Um, 24 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: these guys are going to be asked to do things 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: at the NFL levels they just weren't asked to do 26 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: in college. I think the mental side of it is 27 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: much harder than people realize. I would completely agree. So 28 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: just looking back at the linebackers drafted here, we'll start 29 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: at the at the bottom of twenty fifteen. H Stephen 30 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: Anthony at fifteen. He said, yeah, oh that's bad, and 31 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: you can go back even further from what I remember. 32 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying to find my old article. But yeah, if 33 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: these are guys, it should still be in the league 34 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: exactly right, right, I mean, guy twenty fifteen, they should 35 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: still be They should be in their prime. Uh. Twenty 36 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: sixteen was dron Lee at twenty yuck, no bad. Twenty 37 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: seventeen was Ruben Foster at thirty one. People, you know, 38 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: he was considered a top ten talent, but he had 39 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: some off field stuff he had met Yeah, so he 40 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: kind of he's almost he can put him to the 41 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: side a little, but still Gerard Davis at twenty one. 42 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: I think he's still in the league, but he's just 43 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: a guy. Twenty eighteen draft, now, remember this is when 44 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: the Steelers were looking to replace uh Ryan Shay's here. 45 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: M Roquan Smith went at eight. Obviously, that's that's a hit. 46 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: It is. The first couple of years were not we're 47 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: not good, and he's and he's changed teams, and he's 48 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: changed teams. It took a while. At six, team was 49 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds and he's taken a while too. Yeah, until 50 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: this last season, he would you know, people in Buffalo 51 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: were complaining about him. At nineteen was late in vander Esch. 52 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: He's had a decent year of this past year, but 53 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: he's had a lot of down time too. Yeah, and 54 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: then twenty two is Rashaun Evans. You're right, I mean 55 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: he's still a free agent as we speak right now. Yeah, nobody, 56 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: nobody wants to about to go to third team. Yeah. 57 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, Devin White went fifth. And there are 58 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: people out there who still think that Devin Waite is 59 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: some kind of stud player, and right I'm telling I'm 60 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: here to tell you folks, that is not the case. 61 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: It's he has not been worth a fifth pick in 62 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: the draft. I can promise you that his splashes are good. 63 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: He is an amazing athlete, but he is very unpredictable 64 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: and hard to count up. In fact, you know, when 65 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: I was looking up, uh, you know, some information on 66 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: the Steelers, the inside linebackers at the Steelers signed in 67 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: free agency, m I was shocked, you know, And again 68 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: it's pro football focuses. Grades are you know, they are 69 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: what they are, right right, But you know, if you 70 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: look at Devin White's grades, yuck, No, really, they're mean. 71 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: They're way way way down the list in terms of 72 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: his coverage grades and things that like Lavante David's their 73 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: number three inside linebacker, offball linebacker. He had a grade 74 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: of eighty five point one. I'm looking here, where playing 75 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: in the same defense, in the same defense. I'm looking here. 76 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm still going I'm at forty five, forty six, just 77 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: past Jaman Davis there at forty, Eric Kendricks at fifty. 78 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: He's not in the top fifty. We see here. Rashaun 79 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: Evans was at fifty two, Devin Bush was at fifty four. 80 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: Land of Roberts at sixty three. Miles Shack at sixty five, 81 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks at sixty eight, Roberts Plane at sixty nine. Wow, 82 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd at seventy two, and there's Devin White down 83 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: at number seventy four. Wow. I mean, now, I don't 84 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: think he's a seventy fourth best linebacker on the planet. 85 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: That's what Football Focus graded him as last year. So 86 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was the same guy grading David as 87 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: it was White. And he couldn't have fallen into a 88 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: cushy years situation. You know, you have an all time 89 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: great next you're coaching you up and Vita Vea and 90 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: Sue and some of those dudes protecting him for most 91 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: of his career. Like, that's a pretty cushy job. Yeah, 92 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at it. The only so 93 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: I think he got a thirty six point seven run grade, 94 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: which is bad, forty nine point one pass grade pass 95 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: coverage grade, which is bad. In the only area where 96 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: he was above average was at pass rush. Okay, he 97 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 1: is a good pass rusher, but that's not the mental 98 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: side of it. That's not the recognition stuff. Yeah, let's 99 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: just go get the quarterback. That's Kendrill Bell stuff, right right, right, 100 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: go get to go get the ball. Um, So you know, 101 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: the people's well, the Steelers should have taken Devon Waite. Well, 102 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: first of all, they couldn't take Devon White because to 103 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: trade up the number five probably would have cost him 104 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: two first round draft picks. And you'd still be unhappy 105 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: about it, folks. And you yeah, you would still not 106 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: be super happy about it. Um. Yeah, So again I 107 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: don't know that you know, if apples the apples, if 108 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: you give Tampa Bay the opportunity, hey, you can either 109 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: you know, go ahead and keep uh Lavante David where 110 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: you can give Devon Devon White a new contract. They'd 111 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: probably you know, if you gave him truth serum, they 112 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: want to keep Lavante David. Yeah. Yeah, if you were 113 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: a younger player, I don't know, you invest in White 114 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: long term. Yeah, and maybe he goes somewhere That's this 115 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: is the problem with that position. Maybe he goes somewhere 116 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: else and becomes a star, right, I mean he gets 117 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: it historically, Yeah, they take a while, and then you 118 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: get them on their second contract and they're starting to 119 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: get it, you know. Yeah. Twenty twenty draft Isaiah Simmons. 120 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons went number eight overall yeah, Kenneth Murray went 121 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: twenty three, the aforementioned Jordan Brooks went twenty seventh, and 122 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: then Patrick Queen went twenty eighth. It's a bad group 123 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: for four first round linebackers. Queens still could save himself. 124 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: Brooks has been injured and has some good things. Murray 125 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: has been a bust. And Simmons. I kind of blame 126 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: the Cardinals because they couldn't figure out Reddick, They can't 127 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: figure out Zaven Collins, they can't figure out Isaiah Simmons. 128 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: You know, like maybe that's them not you know, like 129 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: maybe it's you not me. Yeah right, Yeah, what's funny? 130 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: He mentioned Zaven Collins because he was the sixteenth pick 131 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty one draft. So the Cardinals went 132 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: off ball linebackers and back to back drafts. I know 133 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: that are kind of freaky do it all dudes, but 134 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: they're not use them right either. Back to Simmons, he's 135 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: a slot corner for them right now, right right, And 136 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: then jam And Davis went nineteen. He's starting the show 137 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: a little promise, but that's what year three for him? Now? Yeah, um, 138 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: well this would be this is gonna be year three, four, 139 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: This will be your yeah, two. And then last year 140 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: was Devin Lloyd and Quaywalker. Lloyd started very strong, the 141 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: second half of the year was much worse. Once, you know, 142 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: once the team start to realize what you can't do 143 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: right this kind of play action a lot, ye, we'll 144 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: start getting manipulated a little bit, you know, because you 145 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: remember after after his rookie year, people were raving about 146 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: Patrick Queen. Oh look at all these plays he's making. 147 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: What a great what a steel that Ravens got a 148 00:08:54,559 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: twenty eight mm Now it's just just a guy, just 149 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: a guy, I mean, clearly not the player Roquan is. 150 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: He runs well. I mentioned Devin White with him. I 151 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: think White's more explosive, more athletic. But their highlight tape 152 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: real stuff is impressive. You know, they can really run, 153 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: and you know, but the mental side and the down 154 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: to the down aspect of it isn't great. So it's 155 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: it's just interesting to look at it that and say, okay, 156 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: I I think we both come to kind of came 157 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: to the realization that you'll take an inside linebacker an 158 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: off ball linebacker in the first round. No, unless he's 159 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: unless he is just super special. I'd say, if he's 160 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: Noland Smith or Micah Parsons or you know. I mean, 161 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: like he's an off ball linebacker plus I don't Yeah, 162 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: he's got he's got. He's got a trait like every 163 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, if you remember, like when Isaiah Simmons came out, 164 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: Well what is he? Because Clemson played him at safety, 165 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: they played him at linebacker. You know he's in the slot. 166 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: What is he? You don't want to figure that out. 167 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: At the NFL level, he'd better have something that he 168 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: can do to get on the field early. He's kind 169 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: of the same thing with Avian Collins for that matter. 170 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: Right is he Is he an edge? Is he an 171 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: inside guy? He played in a small school. We did 172 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: all this stuff. Well yeah, but it was a small 173 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: school stuff, and people spin it in a positive way. 174 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons can play single high safety, okay against Pitt 175 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: and wake Forest, he can, you know, Miles Jack, Yeah, 176 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: with Jamar Chase is racing down the field, I don't 177 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: know that I want him back there, right right. I 178 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: mean I'm not picking on Miles Jack because I looked 179 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: at it a positive too. But he's out there covering 180 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: true slot receivers, Okay, you know for ten snaps a 181 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: game against Washington States or whatever. He's still an athletic 182 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: enough to do that. Is he gonna guard Wes Welker? No, 183 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of these jack of all 184 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: trades masters of none. As you said, you have to 185 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: have a foundation, you know, like on first and ten 186 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: in your base defense, where are you lining up? And 187 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: if you're not good enough for any of those spots, 188 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: it's hard to get you on the field, right, you know, 189 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: you have to be able to do something. You have 190 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: to have some kind of trump card that you can 191 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: fall back on. Yeah, I mean you have to have 192 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: the mortar, the brick and mortar. Yeah. Changing things up 193 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: here a little bit, Matt. We hadn't gotten to see 194 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: Devin Witherspoon work out at all this offseason. He did 195 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: it his Pro day today and the courts. According to 196 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com and Daniel Jeremiah, he was timed at 197 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: four four six and four four two in the forty 198 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: Fine by me. I don't know the history of Illinois track, 199 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: but even if that's half a second slower than reality, 200 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: you're faster than reality. I'm fine with that. I mean, 201 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: he's not the biggest guy in the world. I love 202 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: his play temperament. He really plays aggressively, sticks in the 203 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: hip pocket of guys can play the slot, but more 204 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: of an outside dude. I was torn between him and Gonzalez. 205 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: Is my favorite corner? Yeah? Yeah to me. The more 206 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: and more I look at it, based on what the 207 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: Steelers have done this offseason, the corner I draft, Um, 208 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: he better be able to play the slot if he 209 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: If he can't play the slot, then then I got 210 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: a draft maybe a safety later they can play the slot, yeah, 211 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: or somebody. I gotta take somebody later in the draft 212 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: who can Who can you know can at least compete 213 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: with Arthur Milette for the slot job. M MA, wait, 214 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: either that's Tomlinson in the fourth round or something after 215 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: you've already drafted. See here's this, so looking up Tomlinson stats. 216 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: He's never played the slot. He hasn't he was he 217 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: was like strictly an outside guy. Now that doesn't mean 218 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: he can't do it. But I don't want a little 219 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: guy playing the slot. I don't want a tiny guy 220 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: there either. I wanted something. Somebody better be at least 221 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: like five to eleven at the shortest. And you know, 222 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety pounds to be in my slot, 223 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: because you're gonna, yep, you're gonna see Joe Mixon coming 224 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: around the corner. You're gonna see you know, Nick Chubb 225 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: coming around the corner. You're gonna check those guys on 226 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: if we really peel through the tea leaves. Do they 227 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: think Peterson can play the slot? See that? I don't know, 228 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, they telling us that that that's more than 229 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: just a hunch that they think he can be their 230 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: version of the slot. I mean, I think there are 231 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: certain teams that you could do that against. Like when 232 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: you're playing Baltimore, maybe you want to put Patrick Peters 233 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: in the slot your garden marker. You've got Mark Andrews 234 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: because he can run with him pretty, you know, pretty easily. Sure. Sure, 235 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: But do I want him in there against a smaller 236 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: guy maybe not? Or do I want him in there 237 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: consistently again tackling Nick Chubb? Maybe not. So I'm just 238 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: trying to think as they think, you know, I mean 239 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: that even though Kevin's gone, they've really done a good 240 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: job of they can line up with their starters today. 241 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they could field a team today. You know, 242 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: of course they're gonna fill in a lot of gaps, 243 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: and I don't see the only position where I'm not 244 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 1: sure that they can is slot on either side of 245 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: the ball. Right, So do they think there's an in 246 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: house answer that we just don't recognize yet. See, I 247 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: don't see that Mike Hilton waiting or anything like that. 248 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: Mike Hilton. When when when Mike Hilton did it the 249 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: year he came out of nowhere, He's that came out 250 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: of nowhere in the spring. I think their their initial 251 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: plan was to use Cam Sutton in the slot, and 252 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Mike Hilton emerged. Actually, if 253 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: you remember, they had drafted Senquez Golson to play the slot, right, 254 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: he kept getting hurt. Um opened the door for Hilton. 255 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: It opened the door for Hilton, who just you know, 256 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: got his hands on the ball consistently throughout the off season, 257 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, programs throughout trade any camp, and they said, 258 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: oh we got we got a guy here, We're going 259 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: to try him in the slot. I don't know if 260 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: there's that guy on the roster right now. I do 261 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: think Mica and Kaz are going to are part of 262 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: that solution, though that's you know, part of the solution. 263 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: Is fine, but I'd much rather have a guy who 264 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: I can just say, you're my slot, You're my starting slot. Yeah, 265 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: it's a start. Yeah. And you know, if he's a 266 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: safety who can go back and play deep safety and 267 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: I can, I can put Mink up there and we 268 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: break the huddle. The offense doesn't know where Mica is 269 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: gonna line up at all, the better. That was the 270 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: beauty of Cam Sutton. They did that with Cam Sutton 271 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: last year. Good point. Yeah, even after the Neil signing, 272 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: I feel stronger and stronger that they're gonna draft two 273 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: defensive backs. Yeah. I mean one of them could be 274 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: a strong safety and one could be an outside corner 275 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: and neither ones your slot. One could be Branch who's 276 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: all the above, you know, Like, I think they'll add 277 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: two pieces to the secondary that aren't seventh round picks, 278 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: you know that are reasonably high picks. Yeah, it's just 279 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: a matter, you know. I know. For example, so when 280 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: they went to Iowa State, everybody assumed that they were 281 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: looking they were there to look at Will McDonald. Well, 282 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlins spent a lot of time with Xavier Hutchinson, 283 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: but Anthony Anthony Johnson Junior. Also there is a safety 284 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: for them played a lot of slot, played a lot 285 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: of slot. Is a cornerbacks who shifted to safety. You know, 286 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: there's a six foot, two hundred and five pounds safety now, 287 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: but he played in the slot. So if you pull 288 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: up anyone's top ten safety ranks, top fifteen, whatever, a 289 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: very high percentage of them or doing slot work. You know, 290 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: like I don't love Antonio Johnson, but he lined up 291 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: in the slot a lot as a big safety like 292 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: Edmonds did. You know, So it probably comes in the 293 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: form of a safety. You know, when when they go 294 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: to the podium with the fourth round with pick number 295 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: ninety two, the SEO select safety, blah blah blah blah blah. 296 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: They might people might not realize that you're gonna he's 297 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: got a guy's gonna have some slot work in his background. 298 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: I'm sure of it. I mean, I'm almost certain of it. 299 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: Especially if you you know, even if you take a 300 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: let's say you take a Joey Porter Junior or Deontay 301 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: Banks early in the draft, you're still gonna need a slot. 302 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: You're still not done right, Yeah, and that guy's probably 303 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: gonna be he's probably gonna go to your safety room. 304 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: Probably got the safety room, but we'll spend a lot 305 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: of time covering slot receivers. That's just the way, you know. Again, 306 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: I think that's the way they goes. That's that's why 307 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: for example, um, you know, I'm when the Steelers still 308 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: have Mike Hilton, even to a certain degree with mart 309 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: when they when they you know, with Arthur Mulett and 310 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: Cam Sutton, when Cam Sutton would bump inside would be 311 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: on when it was third and six or longer, right 312 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: right right, Otherwise m Letter or Hilton were in there 313 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: because well, they're gonna they're gonna throw it there. You know, 314 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: there's a chance they could still run the ball here. 315 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: And you kind of mentioned that this with Sutton and others, 316 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: And I'm a picking on Hilton because he's not in 317 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: town because the same is true with Milette. There's really 318 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: only one spot on the defense they can when they 319 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: break the huddle they can go to. Yeah, yeah, you 320 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Sutton. You don't want them and 321 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: you don't want them running twenty yards down field. No, 322 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: it's not like, oh, he's gonna fool you up and 323 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: play free safety the snap or go the outside corner 324 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: and line up against the Higgins. I mean, if he's 325 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: on the field, he's going to be your slot for 326 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: Malette and Hilton. You know. Yeah, So to me, I 327 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: think that's kind of an under you know, it's a 328 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: spot to me that's kind of undervalued, I think right 329 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: now in terms of Steeler draft needs. Yeah, I think 330 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, honestly, it's the only starting spot 331 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: that isn't answered the second Yeah. Now, I think Malette 332 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: helps fill that role, but I don't think he's the 333 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: only guy you want filling that role. I mean I 334 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: give him a lett to seventy percent chance of making 335 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, yeah, own being the number one option there. 336 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: But you can live with it. I mean, I guess right, Yeah, 337 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm kind of talking on both sides of my mouth. 338 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: If you could line up with Malett, is your slot 339 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: right now? In week one we've seen so that brings me, Matt. 340 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: Then to the to our final thing here. ESPN listed 341 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: the top five draft needs. I've referenced it earlier in 342 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, and their top needs for the Steelers. 343 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: Right tackle, I'd be interesting, Yeah, right, tack tackle a 344 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: lot of need. No, I don't see it as a 345 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: need at all. Wide receiver called ot I would understand, 346 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: but right tackle, no, I'm assuming the list of these 347 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: in order as well. Right tackle, wide receiver, inside linebacker, cornerback, nickelback. 348 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: I give them all the credit in the world for 349 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: recognizing nickelback. Yeah, we just talked about that. Um, I 350 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: disagree with a lot of the others. Defensive line is 351 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: going to be on there somewhere right just has to 352 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: be because of the age year defensive line. And we 353 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: started this segment talking about boss or early struggles of 354 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: inside linebackers, and I didn't bring it up because it 355 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: could be an hour conversation on its own. I don't 356 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: have a problem cutting corner at linebacker period, you know, 357 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: like not depending on the Edmonds, you know, getting the 358 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: Holcombs and those type of dudes that aren't pricey and 359 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: see what you get out of them, and just not 360 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: investing a ton there. But I'm not, okay, not investing 361 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: a defensive line without a doubt, without a doubt. And 362 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, I think the thing that you have to 363 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: remember the defense played pretty well down the stretch last year, 364 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: and they did a lot of that work with Robert 365 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: Speleine on the field, they did. Yeh, that's what I 366 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: mean one hundred percent of the snaps, like the last 367 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: four games, Robert Splaine never left the field, right, Is 368 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: that the way you want to do it? No, But 369 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: if whole Holcomb's Splaine plus twenty percent, which I think 370 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: he might be splained plus exactly exactly. I was being 371 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: being kind, you can win that way. That's my point is. 372 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: I don't know that I want to invest in inside linebackers, 373 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: either financially or draft capital wise, because you only have 374 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: someone you have to cut corner somewhere. But I do 375 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: want to invest in those big guys. I do want 376 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: to invest in cornerbacks because cornerbacks are expensive. I do 377 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: want to invest in wide receivers because wide receivers are expensive. 378 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: One percent percent, Yeah, I agree. I mean, if if 379 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: the third round rolls around and you have an eighty 380 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: two grade whatever the number is equal grade on a 381 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: slot corner or an off the ball linebacker, I might 382 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 1: take the slot corner. I think it's a bigger need. Yeah, yeah, right, right, 383 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: for how they're constructed right now, without a doubt. Yeah. 384 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: So interesting. You know, it's it's always interesting to me 385 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: to look and see what other people outside the organization 386 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: who aren't around this team all the time, see the 387 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: team needs as and I couldn't I couldn't disagree more 388 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: that right tackle is that spot? I mean, I just 389 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: don't get that at all. And I don't claim to 390 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: know the other thirty one teams as well as I 391 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: know this one, but I'm a pretty good understanding of them. 392 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: Of course, it's easy to just say Bear's biggest need 393 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: is O line. You know, like, yeah, they're old lines, 394 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: far from perfect, but they have a starting guard, they 395 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: have a starting right tackle. You know, like there's only 396 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: one or two spots really available on a bad old line, 397 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: and on this old line it has to be left 398 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: tackle or nothing else. So you can't say right tackle 399 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: you and it wouldn't be the number one one need period. Yeah. 400 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: I just wonder if they looked at that and said, well, 401 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: this is how the draft is gonna break. So we're 402 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: gonna list this as number one need because we think, 403 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, we think Darnell Wright is going to be there, 404 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: so let's put him in. Let's put the right tackle. 405 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: Is that the top need for them? And they you know, 406 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: they can draft him and figure it out. Well, here's 407 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 1: the thing I think the Steelers, Yeah, that in the 408 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: third round. They're trying to win games this year, absolutely, um, 409 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: and they've got needs that they're gonna they're gonna have 410 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: to fill, Like a cornerback. If they take a cornerback 411 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: in the first round this year, that guy's gonna end 412 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: up playing four hundred snaps this year, maybe a thousand, 413 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: maybe a thousand. Yeah, you know, if they if they 414 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: take a nickelback, that guy's gonna play four hundred or 415 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 1: maybe eight hundred snaps. If they take it Banks, you 416 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: want him to be a starter from day one, right. 417 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: If they take a defensive tackle early, that guy's gonna 418 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: play three hundred snaps yeah, right, right, and maybe five 419 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: hundred right right, Not every year they're gonna get on 420 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: the field. If you take a right tackle, he may 421 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: play a hundred snaps as your as your extra tight end. 422 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: Or if Jukes gets hurt, or if Us gets hurted, right, 423 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: or he learns to play left tackle and isn't ready 424 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: for two years. So that's I mean, I don't know. 425 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I get drafting for tomorrow ahead of time, sure, 426 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: but this is a team to set up to win. 427 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: Now You've you've got a quarterback on his rookie contract. 428 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: You want to do. You want to try to win 429 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: now right right now. This isn't rebuild time, This isn't 430 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: the Bucks and Rams and Texans and those guys. I mean, yeah, 431 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: trying to win division. Yeah, absolutely, But Matt, that's gonna 432 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: do it. For the show today. Nice, that's fun. If 433 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: you missed any of our show today, you could download 434 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: full episodes of all of our s ANDR podcast shows, 435 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: such as The Drive in the Locker Room with Wolf 436 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: and Starks, The Steelers Blitz with Wesse and Moats, The 437 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: Steelers Standard with Tom and Jacob, as well as many more. 438 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: They're all available on the Steelers Mobile app, the iHeartRadio app, 439 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: and wherever you get your podcasts. 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