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Speaker 1: London. Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Arnold Allen and I'm doing room

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Speaker 2: service diaries and room service. I'm not here.

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Speaker 1: It's so weird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's all right.

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Speaker 1: Do you live in We live in.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit weird, but yeah. It's interesting getting

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Speaker 2: called up to someone's hotel room for interview. Interview, that's

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Speaker 2: all right. Hopefully it's not on the bed. Hopefully there's

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Speaker 2: a sofa, some chairs and it's you know, nice and professional.

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Speaker 3: One Irish, probably a spous last name.

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Speaker 2: Let's come in time.

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Speaker 4: Well, I got to tell you what when this gentleman

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Speaker 4: returns to the cage and takes on Max all the

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Speaker 4: way April fifteenth, it's gonna be a big deal. And

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Speaker 4: he's a big deal. So we said, when we come

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Speaker 4: to London, Brian Campbell, we better.

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Speaker 1: Talk to him.

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Speaker 3: Time to get almighty on that ass.

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Speaker 4: It's time to get almighty with Arnold Allen. Hi, Arnold,

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Speaker 4: how are you?

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Speaker 1: I am? Okay, it's nice to see you. You got

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Speaker 1: the decked out Jordan's and a whole lot else.

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Speaker 3: Can we can we show the those are like I

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 2: It's not their debut, but it's a second tho out.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a ja like a Jordan collection?

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Speaker 2: No, not massive. I have a Halloween specials of him wearing,

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Speaker 2: but only a few.

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Speaker 1: Well they look great, thank you. Yeah, I'm very excited

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Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 3: Here, Arnold Allen. What do in in your in your

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Speaker 3: native area? Born in Ipswich, raised in Suffolk, Suffolk. What

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Speaker 3: do they call you back there? Like double a Arnie?

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Speaker 3: What's the deal.

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Speaker 1: In the Jungle Book?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Everyone we're on phone clues to me mo Yeah

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Speaker 2: that's a weird yeah, yeah, triple a everyone wait.

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait told him that's a very original nickname. And ever,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever met another Mogli. Yeah

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Speaker 1: I haven't. What did you know? It's in the junkle book?

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Speaker 1: I bet you did sugartating Mowgli. How did you get

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Speaker 1: the name Mogli?

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Speaker 2: So my dad wanted to call me Arnold. My mom

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Speaker 2: didn't want to call me Arnold. And when I was

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Speaker 2: born in that in the nursery theme, they had a

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Speaker 2: jungle book theme, so my mom just called me Mowgli.

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Speaker 2: She's like, I'm not calling them Arnold, and everyone calls

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Speaker 2: me Mowgli where I'm from.

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Speaker 3: So that's a cool story. I was like, fuck this. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'll name him because I have to, but I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I'm not behind this.

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Speaker 2: Literally, only everyone, only people I knew since I've been

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Speaker 2: an adult called me Arnold, like only like school friends.

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Speaker 2: Everyone calls me.

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Speaker 1: So when did you start going? When? When did the

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Speaker 1: old mighty nickname take place?

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Speaker 2: What was about when I was twenty? So someone came

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Speaker 2: up with the brand or mighty fight where and he

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Speaker 2: just approached me. It was like, I'll give you X

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Speaker 2: amount per fight if you call yourself a mighty if

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Speaker 2: you wear my shorts. I was like, okay, I'm getting

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Speaker 2: paid like three hundred pound of fight. I was like,

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Speaker 2: what five hundred extra to cool myself.

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Speaker 3: Let's go entrepreneur.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, and I just stuck. I guess so yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he could picked the right company.

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Speaker 3: It could have been like, you know, Arnold Manska something

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Speaker 1: You know, I gotta say, you're renting out your nickname.

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Speaker 1: It's not a bad idea. Yeah yeah, Brian, what what

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Speaker 1: would your nickname be?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Delta A high t Campbell.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about let's get into the thing that is

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Speaker 4: the big news. I mean, there's so much I want

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Speaker 4: to ask you about but let's talk about the big

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Speaker 4: news right up front. It was reported recently, I think

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Speaker 4: even confirmed, you're gonna be fighting Max Holloway April fifteenth.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we don't know if it's going to happen.

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Speaker 4: That might be the same day as Tank Davis, Ryan Garcia,

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Speaker 4: so it's kind of interesting.

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Speaker 3: But about what's the city and there's a Fight Night

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Speaker 3: main event?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a Fight Night main event. Where where's

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Speaker 4: that one taking place? Is it the Apex?

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Speaker 2: You said, Felix the Docks, Like, I don't actually or

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Speaker 2: it's uh, as far as I know, not the Apex.

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Speaker 1: Not the Apex. I guess we'll figure that out.

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Speaker 3: Nevertheless, there could be a slap pay per view that night,

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Speaker 3: just yeah, there probably could be.

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Speaker 4: But just to clarify you, we initially were supposed to

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Speaker 4: fight Max on the Comain.

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Speaker 1: At UFC two eighty six. Yeah, but you injured your rib.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it was offered and out of a rib injury,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't know if I can make

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Speaker 2: that one. So yeah, a month later, April fifteenth, so.

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Speaker 1: Still with Max.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, what do they say about when the USC

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Speaker 4: offers you a fight? Did they ever tell you why

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Speaker 4: they want you to take a fight, or they just

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Speaker 4: give you a name.

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Speaker 2: No, it's usually just named date. That's a question mark.

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Speaker 3: So you you never know if it's pay per view

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Speaker 3: call mean, if it's main event or what.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, like yeah, you'll know the event, the name,

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Speaker 2: the date.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they say, is what's what?

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Speaker 3: That's kind of I mean, you can't control injuries, but

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Speaker 3: the idea of comin eventing Max Holloway in England had

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Speaker 3: a storybook ring to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it sucks, but it is what it is.

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Speaker 2: And uh a lot of setbacks off the lead of

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that's become a theme in Arnold Alan's career.

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Speaker 3: How I mean, when we look back, it's like the

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Speaker 3: wind streak has been hella impressive. You were ready for

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Speaker 3: either like and it may happen on the same night

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Speaker 3: one day, like being a world champion or overnight start

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Speaker 3: them and in the kind of things that happened if

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Speaker 3: you defeat a Max Holloway, how have you navigated the

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Speaker 3: fact that you're kind of only fighting once a year

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Speaker 3: for the most part on this run and it's like

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Speaker 1: Got twenty two, but then one of them early you.

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Speaker 3: Know, how do you keep that? How do you keep

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Speaker 3: your head together during that? I was one of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's frustrating. So you know, a lot of

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Speaker 2: reasons aren't really you know. Sometimes you know, I'm ready

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Speaker 2: the next London show. Like I've got a show in

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Speaker 2: like four months in London. I'm I'm ready, now let's go.

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Speaker 1: Because they want you as a UK guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the UK, Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So there's been a

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Speaker 2: lot of that. You know, I've had a lot of

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Speaker 2: fights fall through. Opponents are pulled out and supposed to

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Speaker 2: fight Emmett in North Carolina and he got injured a

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Speaker 2: week before. We try to reschedule, and then I think

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Speaker 2: he fought someone else instead. You know, it's not always

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Speaker 2: been my fault me being injured. But you know, I've

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Speaker 2: had hand injuries and obviously then a little injury there

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Speaker 2: and uh yeah, so it's not always my fault.

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Speaker 1: What are the major injuries? You've had?

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Speaker 2: Nothing major? Just hands, usually hands. I had a couple

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Speaker 4: Is there anything that can be done? Like do the

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Speaker 4: doctors ever tell you that, like, how much of this

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Speaker 4: is genetic? How much of this is the way you're training?

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Speaker 2: I no, no, no doctor said anything. But for me,

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Speaker 2: like even when the fights or the years were I'm

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Speaker 2: fighting once a year, I'm still training all year, And

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Speaker 2: I think that might be one of the factors. Like

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Speaker 2: I know, some guys they'll do, you know, they'll do

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Speaker 2: the rest of the year. I've always sort of trained

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Speaker 2: like camp all year, you know, then pick it up

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Speaker 2: a little bit in camp and actually if anything camp

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Speaker 2: comes around, back it off a little bit, so I

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Speaker 2: don't overtrain. But I think that's probably one of the

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Speaker 2: fact that's been the hand injuries.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's funny, you're only twenty nine years old, right,

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Speaker 4: but it feels like you've been around for quite some time.

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Speaker 4: But to BC's point, it's been very intermittent.

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Speaker 1: What what what how do you what a role do

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Speaker 1: you play in the featherweight division?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: How do you view yourself among your peers? Given where

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Speaker 4: you're at now? What could be ahead?

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Speaker 1: What? What space are you occupying?

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Speaker 2: I'm uh, it's an awkward space there, like a lot

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Speaker 2: a lot of people said it should have been me,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I wouldn't have I wouldn't have been

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Speaker 2: one for the interim shot?

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Speaker 1: Oh for the this is being shot before UFC two

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Speaker 1: eighty four.

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Speaker 2: Year Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I'm in a funny

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Speaker 2: space on what the dark horse just sort of creeping

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Speaker 2: I like that. It's it's working, it's working.

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Speaker 1: Well, do you feel like you got to develop? Because

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Speaker 1: you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 4: You always had a bit of hype around you and

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Speaker 4: then it got a little quiet with all the injuries

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Speaker 4: and like the once a year fighting. But then it

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Speaker 4: took a turn. I'm not exactly sure where it took

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Speaker 4: a turn, maybe the Gil Melendez fight, but it took

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Speaker 1: Kind of funny.

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Speaker 4: It's not that I don't understand that the USC wanted

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Speaker 4: you to compete in the UK. I totally get it,

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Speaker 4: but you're also in a space now where, like if

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Speaker 4: you're fighting the very top guys.

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Speaker 1: They can't hold you like that. It either has to

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Speaker 1: work or it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, and when you're fighting the top guys,

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Speaker 2: he was just once twice a year, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of but I feel like all the accreditation

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Speaker 3: came in the Dan Hooker fight for anybody who had

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Speaker 3: doubts and they crystallized there. Yeah, it just became like,

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Speaker 3: oh shit, this guy actually is that level of for

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Speaker 3: real with that type of performance. I mean, do you

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Speaker 3: feel like you kind of needed that or to just

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Speaker 3: like because it's got to be frustrating when you know

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Speaker 3: how good you are, you want to fight the champion,

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Speaker 3: you're in and out of the lineup. You're pulling out

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Speaker 3: more than him in his four years in college.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely needed a performance on that. But oh

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Speaker 2: so there's a little like question marks over that, like

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Speaker 2: him coming down and wait and then him Yeah, obviously

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Speaker 2: everyone knows he probably shouldn't have done that weight dropping,

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have been in that weight. But so there's all

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Speaker 2: those factors as well, isn't it. So they had a

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Speaker 4: Where do you think he is? I mean, here's here's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened?

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Speaker 2: I think Volcanoski just he just improves every time he fights.

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Speaker 1: Stop Josie Ado with back to back fights that doesn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know Faul Connor, McGregor and Poitier

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always not watching Max like he's I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's that you need to be aware of that.

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Speaker 3: You have to you have to walk through that aura

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when I thought Gilbert Mellendez it was it was

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Speaker 2: Then yeah, once you're in there, like I'm gonna beat

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you have if any other answer,

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Speaker 3: But it's got to be pretty fucking cool that you're

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Speaker 3: closing in on your dream, I would assume with becoming

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Speaker 3: give us Max Holloway. That's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's you know, beating him. There's no more

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Speaker 4: Him, Yeah, that's it, Like you're the guy at that point.

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Speaker 2: Right, That's that's the plan. You know, get win then

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Speaker 3: So we got to get his quick thoughts on two

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Speaker 1: Even though what is Max good at you?

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Speaker 2: What are you up against his gamesmanship is his mentality.

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Speaker 2: It is like a his skills are great, Like his

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Speaker 4: Obviously let me I want to get to two any four,

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Speaker 1: How does a game plan come together for you? Guys?

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Speaker 1: How do you do that?

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Speaker 2: So now, because as being the mastermind is I just

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Speaker 2: And I trusted him when I first went to Canada

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Speaker 2: The strategy comes up with you know, if it's not

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Speaker 2: So after my UFC debut, I was just like, the right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Been that's investing back in the product, right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: The strip clubs in Montreal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll have a Patreon edition one day cover that

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Speaker 4: But we're gonna get this later. My man's tweeting pictures

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's so, he's such. I've interviewed Arnold before.

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Speaker 3: But you've been coming out later on social media as

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Speaker 1: Tweeting the PM of the country.

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Speaker 2: He ain't getting back to me, No.

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister for the people that don't be fair.

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Speaker 2: I've always I was always doing that, Like I was

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Speaker 2: No one is gonna tell me not the post. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was like a stupid thing to try and be

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Speaker 4: You got written up in a good way, like by

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Speaker 3: Because because among your many attacks at the Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: A Yeah, so my go for it kind of thea

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Speaker 4: I'll ask, dude, you generate some legitimately. I put your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we ain't give her a visa yet.

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Speaker 3: Once they saw your dog's balls.

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Speaker 1: The dog balls was really the one. You're not going

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Speaker 2: Uh, he's only a puppy. So what's his name?

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Speaker 1: name for a dog.

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Speaker 2: So he's uh, we got him from a Cuban footballer,

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Speaker 2: like the team yeahlatively speaking, Noga I, which's rival. And uh,

440
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Speaker 2: we've got Carlos from so family. Why she's like a

441
00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,480
Speaker 2: cousin is married and he's like you want to do

442
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,480
Speaker 2: like okay, So now Carlos Carlos.

443
00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,600
Speaker 3: That fantastic. I gotta ask you this question because I'm

444
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,679
Speaker 3: so envious of many parts of the UK culture, but

445
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 3: obviously for our job and passions, it's the combat sports

446
00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,879
Speaker 3: has exploded, whether you want to trace it back to

447
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,280
Speaker 3: like the twenty twelve London Olympics for boxing or you

448
00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,560
Speaker 3: know Bisz Peng winning a championship in his original rise

449
00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,680
Speaker 3: obviously in UFC, but I mean it's it's football, yes, right,

450
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,840
Speaker 3: it's but you grew up. I gotta add, like, what's

451
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,440
Speaker 3: it like growing up in this culture? And what role

452
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 3: does combat sports play? Because we come from an American

453
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,719
Speaker 3: culture where there's so much competition. I know, I have

454
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,719
Speaker 3: zero friends that like combat sports, you know what I mean.

455
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 3: Like they may tweet me like, hey, did you watch

456
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 3: this fight the other day, but like very few people

457
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,960
Speaker 3: that are on the ball week to week. I have

458
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,959
Speaker 3: to make friends online. And my wife thinks it's creepy.

459
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,719
Speaker 3: But what's it like growing up in this how how

460
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 3: what role did m man boxing play in your youth?

461
00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 2: So yeah, kind of the same most of my friends.

462
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 2: You're in England, you're like, you're a football fan. So

463
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 2: growing up everyone we played football, and I think it's

464
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 2: probably about twelve. I was about twelve thirteen I realized

465
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 2: I was shit at football and that's why I was like,

466
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to boxing. So I started

467
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 2: boxing and then it's just kind of like a one

468
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Speaker 2: man journey like doing that, like all my friends playing football,

469
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 2: Like I'll go to boxing because I'm.

470
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Speaker 3: Good at that.

471
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 2: I'm better at that. Why not?

472
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, But there's a passion for it in the average

473
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 3: person in terms.

474
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 2: Of a sports fan, right, Yeah, but so then when

475
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Speaker 2: I got to the UFC, like even people I went

476
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 2: to school with were like hyped about McGregor posted shit

477
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 2: about the UFC, and I'm like, they don't know him

478
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 2: in the UFC, but they don't even know him in the.

479
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 1: People you grew up with.

480
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so I was like people tweeting him and

481
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 2: like supporting him. Like I sat in class with you,

482
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,879
Speaker 2: like I know, like we live in the same town,

483
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Speaker 2: Like it's only five thousand people.

484
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Speaker 1: Dude, we cheated off the same kid in chemistry class.

485
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 2: And you're supporting him and not me, Like yeah, yeah, nice.

486
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 2: But the town I grew up in, it's like a

487
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 2: it's sad to say, like some people say, it's like

488
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 2: it's a town where people go to die, right, It's

489
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 2: like it's kind of like Florida, Right, Yeah, it's like

490
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 2: an old person town. So they don't give a ship.

491
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 2: They asked me what I do. I'm just like a box.

492
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 2: I say a box because it's harder to explain, you

493
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Speaker 2: know how there's kick in the rest of this. They're

494
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 2: just like, what, but yeah, I box? So yeah, they

495
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 2: don't they think I box.

496
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 4: When you run into those kids, now, when you see

497
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Speaker 4: them you're like, do you say anything to them? I

498
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 4: guess after the cater fight and then the Hooker fight

499
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 4: did finally catch on a little bit?

500
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Speaker 2: Might not really my twell. I walked through my village

501
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 2: to like town. No one nos, no, no.

502
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Speaker 3: It's amazing. It's nice. It's like Luke and his family.

503
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 3: They don't give.

504
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: No one texted me about the strip. It's pretty nice.

505
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Speaker 1: That's great, that's great.

506
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 4: All right, So lets talk a little bit about UFC

507
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Speaker 4: two eighty four. All right, so we've got in the

508
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 4: main event, We've got Alexander Volkanowski and Islam market Chev.

509
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 3: It's a power move, but is it a good move?

510
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 1: Bal Yeah. By the way, I don't think if he

511
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 1: wins he holds the belt either.

512
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 2: Oh what keeps it? Yeah?

513
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 4: I know, I know Volkanowski has said I'm going to

514
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 4: defend both, but that's just not realist.

515
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: Time, that's not Yeah.

516
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: I think if he wins this, he's dropping that fifth

517
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 2: white belt straightway.

518
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: I think so yeah, I.

519
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: Think for sure we ten pounds. It's not boxing, is it.

520
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: It's a lot to go up and down.

521
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 4: So and also like Volk's not old, but I think

522
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 4: he turns thirty four this year, which is kind of

523
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 4: getting to that, you know, Michael Chandler stage of your career.

524
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 4: All right, But what happens in the fight under your head?

525
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Speaker 2: I think Volk loses, but I think he looks good

526
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: doing so. I don't think he's going to get outclassed.

527
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 2: I think he's going to make a good effort.

528
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Speaker 3: But I think he's going to like gout a sign

529
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: you did against Bolhovich comparison wise.

530
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: No, no, do that. I don't think he did that

531
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 2: great Yeah, No, for I think he would do. I

532
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 2: think it'll make it, you know, a good thing, like

533
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: maybe probably a decision, sure, yeah, but I just the

534
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 2: size difference, the weight, it's gonna be too much.

535
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Speaker 3: I think much of the hammer. I mean that's also

536
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 3: part of the part of the equation, whether they were

537
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 3: the same weight or not. He's a fucking hammer. It's

538
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 3: a problem. Yeah, it's a problem.

539
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,959
Speaker 4: Look, well, I was just gonna say too like and one,

540
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 4: you never know how this is going to go. And

541
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 4: when he go up a weight. But at one forty five,

542
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 4: Fokanok is not a big power hitter. No, so one

543
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 4: fifty five he will have a little bit more heft.

544
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 4: But I wonder if he would have enough for a

545
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 4: natural one fifty five around.

546
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the answer to that.

547
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: I was thinking the other day actually, I was comparing

548
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 2: it when Colin mcgreg went up to fight Eddie Alvaz.

549
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: It was like he was the bigger man. Like Colin

550
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 2: was bigger, he carried.

551
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: The power, went up away, and also he was so accurate.

552
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was so accurate. But it's like this fight

553
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: isn't that. It's a smaller guy coming against the guy

554
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 2: that could be a worldweight, Like he'd probably go up

555
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: away easy and uh yeah, And like you said, he's

556
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: not carrying the power up. He's not bringing power with

557
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 2: him and he's not restricted from cut and weight. When

558
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 2: McGregor at fevweight was you know, it was horrible. He

559
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: shouldn't have. He looked great. The performances were great. But

560
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: you see him on the scales, they look good. So yeah, yeah,

561
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: I think it's it's not gonna be a positive move

562
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: for him.

563
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: What's the key to being Bolkanowski for anyone? What is

564
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: the key?

565
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: I think you know he's short, stucker, you have to

566
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: maximize that, keep your range with him. I thought Max

567
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 2: did good in I think it was the second fight.

568
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, rounds one and two of the second fight. Round

569
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: he established himself as the bigger man.

570
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. He was keeping it long. I don't think

571
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: Max has got the longest arms, but he was throwing

572
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: good attacks with knees, landed some nice uppercuts. So he

573
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 2: dropped a kit, wasn't it. Yeah, so like long range Yeah, yeah,

574
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 2: like the long range attacks I think are key. And yeah,

575
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 2: he looked great. Then he just sort of got away

576
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: from his game plan and or maybe Volcano said, I

577
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 2: don't know, but yeah, yeah.

578
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: Vok is good.

579
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 4: You know he here's what he I don't want to

580
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 4: overstate the comparison, but guys who are good at in

581
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 4: the middle of a fight switching things up and then

582
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 4: executing a newish, new ish game plan those mid fight adjustments.

583
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 4: Volkanowski and his team are good at those. Yeah, right,

584
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 4: I feel like that's a big difference.

585
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: That's one of the things I've always liked the moment.

586
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 2: Every time I watched Volcanoski fight, like, not not the

587
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: more recent fives, but earlier coming up, I would always

588
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: sort of, you know, he's all right, he's good. Then

589
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: he's like, he's good oh shit, he'd be out. You know,

590
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: he looks better every time. But it's not necessarily like

591
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: to say, it's not the power. It's not like it's

592
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: not the skills again, it's it's the tactics, Like the

593
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: tactics his team are flying, and his ability to stick

594
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: to the tactics and stick to the plan.

595
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 3: Well, the focus he showed on the pressure against our takeout, yeah, Resilien.

596
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

597
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 2: It's not like you're not sitting there thinking he's gonna

598
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: fure these submissions off if I take him down, or

599
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: you know, if he's on top, he's gonna serve me.

600
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: He's gonna get my back, or he's gonna throw nice

601
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: kicks or big power punches. Just his strategy is a

602
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: great strategist. I think that's the scariest thing about him.

603
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 4: All Right, so you're comine Josh Emmett with a beard,

604
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 4: now you know that big old beard. Yeah, he's got

605
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 4: You know what's funny, man, it's like, uh, you ever

606
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 4: noticed that, like dudes will go through like a well

607
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 4: we all kind of a little official hair in different ways,

608
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 4: but you.

609
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: Have a very aggressive path.

610
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: This is trimmed up.

611
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: This is trimmed up.

612
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 4: I've noticed that someone mentioned this to me once and

613
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 4: I've never been able to forget it, which is that

614
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: like dudes grow beards after like bad breakups or like

615
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 4: bankruptcy or.

616
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 3: Something like that when they start Ballinger.

617
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 4: And he nothing bad happened to him. He earned the

618
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 4: spot that he's in a tough fight with Calvncator. But

619
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 4: it's like he's got that beard post divorce or something.

620
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 4: All right, but he's going up against Yeah, you're Rodriguez,

621
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 4: give me the exits and no'se on this one.

622
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: So I think Rodriguez wins it. I mean he's got

623
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: too many tools like up close knees and elbows, and

624
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 2: I think that range it's just side kicks, teeps, headcakes.

625
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: Everything he does. I don't think he'll throw low kicks

626
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: someone swinging big punches like it's not a good idea,

627
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 2: but yeah, I like Emmett needs to get close. Then

628
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 2: he needs to get close and shut the range down

629
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: to the Landy's big shots. But he's susceptible the elbows

630
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 2: and knees, and I think, yeah, he's got he's very

631
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: dangerous up close as well as that range. So he's

632
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 2: got both range just covered. The only way I can

633
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 2: see him doing well is if he maybe stores him

634
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: on the fence, maybe shoots some takedowns. Even then, like

635
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: Rodriguez looks very annoying. If you take him down, he's

636
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 2: like kicking in, screaming, his elbows flying everywhere, you know,

637
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: submissions coming up. He's not an easy guy to hold down.

638
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: What do you think changed for your year? Because he

639
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: was like he was hit or miss for a while.

640
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: He always had the potential. But what what do you

641
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 3: think happened where now he's just dialed the hell in?

642
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. Uh. Since the Frank

643
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: Jega fight, he's uh, yeah, like he's settled on the ground.

644
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 2: Edgar obviously beat him up to a win, but as

645
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: soon as he hits the floor, he's like throwing his

646
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: legs off. He's uh, he's elbowing in the top of

647
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: the head. Yeah, And that's a great adjustment. You don't

648
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: want to you won't want to sit in his guard,

649
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: you know.

650
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

651
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 4: The other part about Rodriguez, Okay, so it sounds to

652
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 4: me like based on what you're saying here is out

653
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 4: of UFC two eighty four, we're gonna probably get a

654
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: Volkanowski and Rodriguez fight. Sounds like that's kind of where

655
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 4: your head is at. Yeah, what does that look like?

656
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: I think folk strategy.

657
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: I mean, don't don't give it away yet, because what

658
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: if he comes out there against Max and finishes him,

659
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 3: we may just we made Okay, we're gonna have a

660
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 3: problem here.

661
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 4: Emmett versus Rodriguez, which will have an interim title.

662
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: Guy, I mean they're going to go that directly.

663
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: The interim title does guarantee they're.

664
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 4: Probably, but I'm saying it is interesting to think about,

665
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: like what happens if there is like someone ekes out

666
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 4: of winning that one.

667
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: And then let's say you go in there and below

668
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: the doors.

669
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 4: Off of Max. I guess it won't because the title unification. Well,

670
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 4: if Volkanovsky.

671
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: Wins, yeah, and he doesn't come back, but then.

672
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: I guess the winner of this fight gets a tele

673
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: shouting no matter why, you're in a good spot.

674
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's a good time, is you know, like

675
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: you said earlier, I haven't got too many miles on

676
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: the clock. I haven't taken you know, try not to

677
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: take too many shots in sparring. I'm pretty working with

678
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: the press. The way he spars and finding enough, the

679
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: guys are renegading Birmingham. Like Tom Breeze is one of

680
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: the owners of the gym there and he he was

681
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: over at TriStar before, so he's carried that sort of

682
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: ideology back to his team and they trained kind of

683
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: the same way. No one's getting I mean, I've seen

684
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: a few people go over and spire like Leon Headwood's

685
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: from some headkicks. But yeah, it's not you know, every

686
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: sparring isn't a war. It's uh, he's training, training a

687
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: smart train hot but trying the hot pots and.

688
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 4: You know how I can tell you don't have a

689
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 4: lot of miles. I'm being serious. Everyone always points out

690
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: the calflower ears, but it's not that. When the fighters

691
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 4: I've seen who've been in a long time, who have

692
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: taken a lot of damage, their eyebrows and then their

693
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 4: forehead looked chewed.

694
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because they've had so.

695
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: Many cuts star tissues.

696
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: It's and it goes past the eyebrow line into like here,

697
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: you don't have any of that fresh as a baby

698
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 4: over there.

699
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, a fresh so so connected to that is like, Okay,

700
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: when I'm looking at the title picture, the thing that

701
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 3: jumps out of me about Yeah year in particular, is

702
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: I don't know what his true ceiling is. I don't

703
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: know how dynamic and great he can be in a

704
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: single moment to go over the top and maybe win

705
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: the championship. The only other person I say that about

706
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: is you, because there's not a lot of tape of

707
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: you being compromised and having to battle back. You've you've

708
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: on this winter and you've looked awesome, So there's a

709
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: lot of unknown. Do you actually know the depth and

710
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 3: the degree of the unknown or is it sort of like, man,

711
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: I need somebody to pull that out of me in

712
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: a five round championship fight so I can find out

713
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: how great I am? Or do you already know that?

714
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: Well, they've got that and me, Yeah, you know, I've

715
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: always had the opinion that like, the better you put

716
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: me in there with someone like the better, I'm going

717
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: to rise and I'm going to rise to the occasion

718
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: and do better. So what better than Max all the way? Right? So, yeah,

719
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna see probably the best version of myself, or

720
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: if we get Vocans, you have to see a better

721
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: version of myself because he beaten Free times. So yeah, what.

722
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: Would you say is your toughest fight to.

723
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: Date, toughest I've had. Yeah, I don't know how to

724
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: really crap fight with matts manew I felt bad you

725
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: just submitted him. Yeah, I know, I've I thought like, shit.

726
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: He's tricky on the feet though. It's little tricky, yeah,

727
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 3: a little shifty.

728
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: I had COVID before COVID. Okay, there was twenty eighteen.

729
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: Well he had the eighteen and a half. You have

730
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 3: that COVID I patients zero yeah, yeah, in like December

731
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: of twenty nineteen.

732
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 4: Right, do you just come back from I guess it

733
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 4: was like I feel like I'm dying.

734
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then and then we got drunk and I

735
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: went to the er. It was you know, my wife

736
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: was making funeral planning.

737
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: There was a rough situation.

738
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: But uh, I mean, like, you know what the general

739
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: theme of my question is sort of like you believe

740
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: in yourself to the nth degree because you've had enough

741
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: moments either challenges and fights, things overcome and training, things

742
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: overcome in your personal life, which which fuel your confidence

743
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways. But you also don't know

744
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: how great you can be.

745
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, the only way you get caught this

746
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: is a thing like a lot of young guys. I

747
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: see it Jamison out there. It blows my mind and

748
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: I'm kind of jealous. But like, they don't work hard.

749
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: Not every young guy. I'm not saying for every young guys,

750
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: but these guys cover for they don't work hard, but

751
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: they're cocky as fuck. Like where'd you get this confidence from?

752
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: Like you know, your training is your confidence, So.

753
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 4: See that's not confidence right right, Because here's my view

754
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: on that. These these young guys, you see them to

755
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 4: your point, some of them work hard, but then a

756
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 4: lot of them are really young.

757
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: They got a little bit of ability, but not a lot.

758
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 4: The problem is they don't know that and they think

759
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: that everyone else has got what they've got or less.

760
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 4: They just don't understand the depth of difficulty that they're

761
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 4: up against. So they've got, you know, fifty bucks in

762
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 4: the bank and are like I'm rich. I'm like that

763
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 4: fifty is not going to get you very far.

764
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: It's not going to get you to or false. You

765
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: have to have a con man level of like delusion

766
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: and self belief in your stuff, in yourself at all

767
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: times to get you over every single hurdle.

768
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, not my full on that always has been, like

769
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: you earn that right, like you put in the work

770
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: in the gym, and like you earn that right to

771
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: be confident.

772
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: You know, Well, that's what I mean. This is the difference.

773
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 4: There's confidence based on I don't actually understand what I'm

774
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 4: up against, and that's like they will collapse instant, like, yeah,

775
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 4: that's whatever that is. I don't even have to worry

776
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 4: about it, which is which is different from yours, which

777
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 4: is homie. I've been in the trenches and because I persevered,

778
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 4: now I know that those are two to me, those

779
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 4: are very distinct things. Like this kid like ro Roussells Junior,

780
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 4: he's very good, he's undefeated, like he's really talented, but

781
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 4: he's like, I'm gonna be the first three way chap

782
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna be a bandsaway champion a year. And

783
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, I'm not saying he's not good, and

784
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: I'm not even saying he won't be champion. Sure as fuck,

785
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 4: you're not going to be champion in a year at

786
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 4: one thirty five, And like the what for to say

787
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 4: something like that to me indicates like you don't really

788
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 4: know what you're up against.

789
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but couldn't you say that same thing about

790
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: McGregor on the initial rise there. He we look back

791
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 3: at it as as as a superpower as he was.

792
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: He was, you know, he could see he had a

793
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: vision of his future. That was like it was like

794
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: Luke Skywalker an episode. So this is like just you

795
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

796
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 4: It was just like I'm not comparing him in the

797
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 4: in the all in all ways, but that run that

798
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 4: Connor was on, that was a Michael fucking Jordan run.

799
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 4: That run it's like, well, would you say that to

800
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan? Well, that's different. I mean, that's a different

801
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 4: guy in a different moment.

802
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: Dude.

803
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: Seriously, you think about all the runs at MMA.

804
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: That's one of the best.

805
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: That's one of the best ones I've ever seen.

806
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: Definitely definitely, he just blew up and it just kept going.

807
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: Did that inspire you at all when you were in

808
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 3: the Midt?

809
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

810
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: Well, do you know what?

811
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: When he was in Cajosh So I didn't really. I

812
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: fought in k Joys. I think probably my first fight

813
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: was maybe like his last around the time.

814
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: Last, So there's close enough crossover with that. When that

815
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: wind blew through and that media or that that comment,

816
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 3: I mean, what does that do for you as a

817
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: as a young fighter at seeing that.

818
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was always a fan of his

819
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 2: start and like watch it for the fees of the

820
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: complete opposite person. Like I don't talk any ship, I

821
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 2: don't say nothing, and I just sent some weird tweets

822
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: O every now and then. I mean he sent some

823
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: weird tweets for you know, a bit different. Yeah, he's

824
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: I think there might have been something different at the

825
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: confidence there he two weight world champion or European champion.

826
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: I guess you could say Okaye warriors and lightweight featherweight,

827
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: and I guess that you're gonna be confident going in

828
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 2: there and it worked out.

829
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: All right?

830
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 3: How would you answer when I say what gives you

831
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: the confidence in your personal life experience to be where

832
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: you're at right now, to be entering a Max Holloway

833
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: fight and being like, yep, I'm gonna win this and

834
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna fight the champion next. I mean you got

835
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: to have that. So what does that? How does that

836
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 3: bruin you?

837
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: It's just been put the grafting for like I don't know,

838
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: fifteen years now or something, So you know, I've done

839
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: all the ship stuff. Having no money and but.

840
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: Like, were you a scrappy kid? So what was it

841
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: when you got into into fighting as a as a

842
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: hobby that it became like a natural fit.

843
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, I felt pretty comfortable doing it.

844
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: And he grew up around like fighting and my dad

845
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: fighting and he was a dorman and there's some other

846
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: dodgy stuff like that.

847
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: So oh so you're like, I've seen dad knock a

848
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 3: few four Yeah.

849
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. One of my favorite times my dad was he

850
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: was a strong man and he retired. Yeah, yeah, for sure,

851
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: so he's head but by the way, I mean, he

852
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 2: is a hero. So he got in the he got

853
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: in the strong up. He retired strong man and to

854
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 2: get healthy and lose the weight and get fit whatever,

855
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: he got into m m A. And this is what

856
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: yours is. He was probably in his forties, so I

857
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: was a kid. There must have been about at least

858
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: fifteen years steam. Yeah, it was what was the show?

859
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: And he was trying to get on Cage Rage in London.

860
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where the that's where the cyborg and no

861
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: manhood a badass?

862
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 3: What was that was a full time job on the side.

863
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a truck driver, doorman and doing the.

864
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 3: Old Cage Factory Town of Proof Factory, Aura, and he

865
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 3: was like, I'm comfortable.

866
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, so this we played. There's this game we

867
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: used to play that if you're doing America.

868
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: We call it Kirby.

869
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: So in the street we don't have Kirby. So there's

870
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: two like a inner road. You have a curb this

871
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: side and a curve that side. Right, so one guy

872
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: sounds on one side American?

873
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 3: Where is the story like that?

874
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: So you have a ball and you basically have to

875
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: hit the curb and the ball bounces back to you.

876
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: That's how you that's the point, right, So you hit

877
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: the curves creative. That's so then if you hit the curb,

878
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: you get a shot from the middle. That's that's a Kirby.

879
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: We was playing Curvey in the street and my ball

880
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: kept bouncing and this guy's window sorry, and he came

881
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 2: out and took my ball and he just kept it. Yeah.

882
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: I tried to grab it and he slapped me, like

883
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 2: he hit this guy hit me and neighbor yeah yeah,

884
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: and he hit me and I was like, oh, you're fucked.

885
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 2: I was like, you're fucked.

886
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: Like my dad happens to feast.

887
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: That was like you it was more like I do.

888
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: I was like, are you idiot? I felt bad. I

889
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: was like I had to go tell her because it

890
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 2: was all red, Like my face was a red here

891
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: with this guy slapped me. I went home. What happened?

892
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 2: I was like, around the corner, hit me, he's right

893
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: and where you're practicing? Mm A, Like he wanted to

894
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: try his moves out, so he scored like I think

895
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: he scored like a double leg on him and like

896
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: ground and pounded him a bit. I was just like,

897
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: what the and.

898
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: You watched your dad on the street corner played Kirby

899
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 3: with this guy took down and just I just stood

900
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 3: there like his.

901
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: Dad is the kids in step brothers who made warfare.

902
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: And I took my ball back. I was like, told you.

903
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: I was just told okay.

904
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: Boy, you must have had an awkward Halloween every year?

905
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: Is that the best explanation ever?

906
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: To like?

907
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 3: What fuels your confidence to be able to do this?

908
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

909
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 4: Dad beat the funk out of the neighbors when they

910
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 4: got sideways with it.

911
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: So what's your dad was a strong man competitor?

912
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

913
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: The first one I love?

914
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm a big deadlift and thrown a

915
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 4: little more because you gotta carry weird stone. So was

916
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 4: your dad ever carrying weird ship like beer, keggs and stones?

917
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: And we've got at the stones in the garden.

918
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: At stones are the big rounded stones.

919
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, borderline, you know, probably wake celebration. I enjoyed that

920
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: pure joy coming.

921
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 2: There's so my dad used to put on events as well.

922
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: And then when his gym he had like a lock

923
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: up with his private stuff for his weights and like

924
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: frames for the cars to carry and all that. It

925
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: got shut down, so all the stuff came home. We

926
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: have an at the stone. It's one hundred and forty

927
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: at the stone.

928
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: Pounds no closer to three.

929
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's over double so yeah, and it's like an

930
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: ornament with the plants. So my mom was just like

931
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: rolled it in there and it's like with like plants,

932
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: like there's a border next to it and stuff. Yeah,

933
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: my brother lifts it. He can lift it well.

934
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: But here's the thing about strong man.

935
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 4: They have strong man like strong Man's like mma where

936
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 4: they have like weight classes, but the very best strong

937
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 4: men are all giant humans.

938
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, is your dad a giant human?

939
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: So he's my height, but he used to be. I

940
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: can't freaking pounds. It's when stone he was. He was

941
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: about twenty stone, which is over two hundred maybe like

942
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: two hundred eighty pounds three three hundred pounds, So you

943
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: used to walk around. I just thought it was a

944
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: big fat guy, like he's like this fat man tu

945
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: stuff his head as well, like I've watched it, like

946
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: sticking needles. I was like that, what are you doing?

947
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: He's like steroids, son, Yeah, obviously wait wait wait wait

948
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: wait wait wait wait wait wait. This is the game

949
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: we used to play to keep me and my brother.

950
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 3: That's the best read at the store.

951
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 2: The game was to get my dad to have a

952
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 2: roid rage. So my brother would be.

953
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: Like, dude, I thought I gotta be honest.

954
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 4: I thought you tweeting pictures of your dog's testicles was

955
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 4: the apex of how this interview was gonna go wrong.

956
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 2: So we'll be driving back from somewhere and my brother

957
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: will be like, tap, kick, kick the seat, kick the seat.

958
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it, so kick the seats.

959
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: I'm like it, Like if I don't do it, my

960
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: brother's gonna beat me up. So then my fuck it

961
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: like kicking the seat, kicking the seat. I can see him.

962
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: They're just going red like red, he's going read stop.

963
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: It, stop it.

964
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,959
Speaker 2: My brother's carry on, fucking carry on. Just kick next

965
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: you just stop the car in the middle of the road,

966
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 2: like drag me out. Snapapap, fucking roid rage. My brother's

967
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: dying laughing like like it's my fucking like I'm an idiot. Okay, Yeah,

968
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 2: we said that was the game just.

969
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 5: To get in the you had positive role models and

970
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 5: you're like, yeah, that's kind of But the funniest is

971
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 5: now he's like he's retired, like he takes he says

972
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 5: he says it's tr T, but it's it's self prescribed.

973
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: He's just blasting and cruising. Yeah.

974
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no like measuring whatever. That's not He's just like, yeah,

975
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: that's not how it works. Then that's not.

976
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: You can't be pulsing every day.

977
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's like the calmest, friendliest, like soft. I

978
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: feel like I slap him in the face. Why did

979
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: you do that?

980
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 3: Now? Does he have he has he been to your

981
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 3: UFC fights?

982
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, corners, he's in the corner ship in the corner

983
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 4: like he has a cornerman's license.

984
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: He's the second or third or what does he he

985
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: does like flaps the towel about usually yeah, says shut.

986
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: Up, Well do your dad, because what does your brother do?

987
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: So my brother is he's a strong man now as well. Yeah,

988
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: the on the one hundred and five kilos, so he's brother.

989
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's your brother Jake Jake Allen?

990
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad said, is named after Jake the Snake,

991
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: but I don't know if that's true.

992
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 4: First of all, can you leave and bring your dad

993
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 4: and here we want to interview him and stead it.

994
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 3: Looks like, yeah, named my son after Jake the Snake, Rabbert.

995
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: What's your dad's first name?

996
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: Generally? You know show like the like the like the

997
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers.

998
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, it was it was the yea, it was.

999
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: This is his first time in Europe.

1000
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need a translator the rest of the time here.

1001
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: But we were we were at dinner last night. Was like,

1002
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: I don't understand their accents.

1003
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 4: This is a weird he goes, He goes, this is

1004
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 4: a weird country.

1005
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: Sir.

1006
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 3: Alan is one of the cooler names of all time.

1007
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, your dad is amazing.

1008
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, so is he going to travel with you to

1009
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 4: assuming that the Yeah, if it's in the States, who still, Yeah,

1010
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 4: travel everywhere.

1011
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he he had a he had a spell in

1012
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: prison a long time ago.

1013
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: Okay, this isn't.

1014
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 3: Can we ask you how, yes, why.

1015
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: Did your dad go prison?

1016
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: I don't really know.

1017
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: That, you know, Big John Fury?

1018
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: But can we set up a fire pig paste for

1019
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: Big John? Yeah? So yeah, because I thought when I thought,

1020
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: I go off the plane and I had loads of caols.

1021
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: I missed calls from UH on the way home from

1022
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: like the US, and it was like more voicemails from

1023
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 2: like the commission like Nevada commissioner, like, Oh, what's happened here?

1024
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: Like what's going on? They just wanted to like check

1025
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: his paperwork or something because he'd had a prison record

1026
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: or something. I was like, yeah, like a fucking bit

1027
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 2: late now. So I got home like four in the morning,

1028
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: You're calling me about some ship, like what's happened? Like

1029
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: what have I done? You know it was him. They

1030
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: wanted to question him about is his time?

1031
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: Do you know why he went? Aside for being awesome?

1032
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: So he got he was a dormant. All I know

1033
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: is he got stabbed, and I think the guy got

1034
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: be pretty bad.

1035
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1036
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if he was here telling stories, you'd think

1037
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: he did like a life sentence or something. I think

1038
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: he did like five months. He's got so many stories.

1039
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you five months in prison. Now that's

1040
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to do.

1041
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: He starts telling stories like Dad, you were in for

1042
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: a fucking holiday. Like what you on about? Like you're

1043
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 2: going on like you did ten years?

1044
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 3: Like come on, dude, he must have some much fun

1045
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: being in your corner at this level when the crowd's

1046
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 3: going insane, like what is this? What? What is it

1047
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: like for him watching his son do this? What do

1048
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: you think it's like?

1049
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: I think it it's pretty nervous, to be fair. Yeah,

1050
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: he's you can never shut him up, like he never

1051
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: stops talking. That's why I love having me in the corner.

1052
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: Not for his he's watching offend him advice, but not

1053
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: for your breakdowns. I don't know. I don't know if

1054
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 2: you can relate or like you've ever been in that situation.

1055
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: But let me assure you I cannot.

1056
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: So so when you're like backstage, you're warming up, it's

1057
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: like you know, you have a room with Sometimes it's

1058
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: like a small room of a few matchs. You've got

1059
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: a few people warming up and it's like a bit

1060
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: nervous energy and it's awkward. It's it's like one guy

1061
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: is over there screaming and like kicking the wall or something,

1062
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: and some guys just come in with his face hanging

1063
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 2: off because he lost, and you're all right cool on one. Next,

1064
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: the thing we haveing my dad there is like he

1065
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: always has a story. He always, like, whatever the situation,

1066
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: he has some like story, whether it's true or not,

1067
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 2: like just funny story and it just always has something

1068
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: to say and it just breaks that tension of being

1069
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: backstage in a bit, like you know, sitting there like

1070
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: building the nerves and all that ship.

1071
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: But when did he start being in your corner? Has

1072
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: he always done it?

1073
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: No? Actually, first, so he has a lot of my

1074
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: amateur fighters in the corner, some of the earlier pro ones.

1075
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: And then he wasn't after I went away to Canada.

1076
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: And then when I fought Mad's Manell, my coach, his

1077
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 2: flight got stuck somewhere. One of my coaches, he got stuck,

1078
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: his plane got there was a storm or something, and

1079
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: I was like, fuck it. My dad looks the same.

1080
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: So for the USC, they're like both ball blokes. I

1081
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: was like, you could just be there so we didn't

1082
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: have to change the paperwork whatever. You could just be

1083
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: in the corner as him. And for the funniest thing

1084
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: is he came on stage and for the way, and

1085
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: he came on stage and he shakes her hands like,

1086
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 2: you know, good luck. Whatever he put he just said

1087
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: to my gluck coach like I'm not the fucking coach.

1088
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: Like it was just like what it's like that sharp,

1089
00:45:59,280 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: like you're the coach.

1090
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: You just snuck them through, no problem.

1091
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1092
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, if I ever to play Oscar Willis or

1093
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: e Casey Lydon and take a you know what do

1094
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 3: they call that company the rags to riches, I think

1095
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: altera yeah, dork to champion mode and I take an

1096
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: amateur fight. Here's my dream corner. You're gonna be my

1097
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: head trainer for the coach Tory Gonzales for for encouragement

1098
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: and coach Pacer Allen for John Fury in there too,

1099
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah he did. He did Scoop and eyeball out

1100
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: at one point. But that exp you're telling those stories

1101
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 3: explains to me exactly how you got I always.

1102
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 4: Wondered about guys who are, like, you know, seemingly unassuming,

1103
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 4: how did they get into mm A. Oh right now,

1104
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 4: I know he must have shown you. Do you remember

1105
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 4: the first time you saw mm A.

1106
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had he had the old DVDs. Actually, funny enough,

1107
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: the first time I saw MMA so my very first coach,

1108
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 2: Mark Nixon his name is, he had. He was really

1109
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: into like Valley Tudor and like he loved it and

1110
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 2: there was there was nothing like nothing around like that.

1111
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: I remember he was doing like drills. He was holding

1112
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: the pad there and doing like soccer kicks and stuff

1113
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: like that on the floor and he gave me this DVD.

1114
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: It might have been like a VHS. It might have

1115
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: been on a video, yeah, videotape, and it was vandal

1116
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: Ay Vandalay doing his old fights, so like some little

1117
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: wife fronts, like fucking head button people with soccer kick

1118
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 2: a feople. I was like, this is the ship, this is.

1119
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: A net under the bottom rope.

1120
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Remember pale Landy John's was the big guy for that.

1121
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved it. I was watching. I was like, yes,

1122
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: it was. He got someone of the clinched he was

1123
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 2: head button his head split and he was like that's awesome.

1124
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 2: But I still I've never head butted anyone in my life.

1125
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 2: But I just thought that was cool. Yeah no, never

1126
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 2: I got there.

1127
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 3: We need to go drinking with Arnold head butts.

1128
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 1: We need to go drinking with pasund Yes.

1129
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: Take you so, I'm ready to do it. By the way,

1130
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: induct you into my fledgling MMA produce promotion called factory

1131
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: Town MMA because you know we are from the same ilk,

1132
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 3: different hometown. But you know part of that lifestyle is

1133
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: you know, I'm the I'm the king of gas station

1134
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 3: food cuisine to the point Arnold where you know, at

1135
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: forty four, I've been diagnosed with a fatty liver disease

1136
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: and non alcoholic which basically means if I continue to

1137
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 3: eat hot dogs from from Cumberland Farms that I'm going

1138
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 3: to die. So I heard on social media that you,

1139
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 3: in your own way, in your own area, love to

1140
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 3: eat the ship out of a gas station.

1141
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we heard you eat garbage. Is that true?

1142
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 2: It's not sure?

1143
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: You fancy it on like a I need to get

1144
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: off here. I'm gonna go get off with some hot dogs.

1145
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: Tell me about some British gas station food petrol.

1146
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 4: Station that is a cool fun anyway, Oh yeah, this

1147
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 4: is I got this on Arnold Schwarzenegger's. I don't know

1148
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 4: if you can see it or not. I got ARNLD

1149
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 4: Schwarzenegger's website. So the camera bump is the the at laundria.

1150
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1151
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: So well, I've learned from being over in America and

1152
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 2: being kind of and whatever you like. Gas station food

1153
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: is ship like ship. Here's a highest standard.

1154
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: So that okay, that's a bold statement. I had prawn chips,

1155
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 4: Suggress don't have that money.

1156
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't have to have THN. That's the ship.

1157
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: If you go like M and s Marks and Spencer's,

1158
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 2: that's high quality ship. You go there, it's going to

1159
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 2: cost you an arm and a leg.

1160
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 3: But just as the kep driver someplace, S and M

1161
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: and I'm sure you'll end up in it.

1162
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: But it's just such a comeback. So I was in

1163
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: Canada for a long time when the COVID ship was

1164
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: going on. I was there, you were in Canada or

1165
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 2: in the the lockdown, and then I overstayed my feaser

1166
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: a little bit, and then now I'm back, and so

1167
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 2: come back.

1168
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 3: His life is one long misdemeanor for it, and there's

1169
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 3: nothing ever too serious.

1170
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: It's just a series of slightly you know, I.

1171
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 2: Tweeted, like some stupid ship. I was like the best

1172
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 2: thing about being home is the free pound meal deals,

1173
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: which is like.

1174
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: All right, walk me through what that is when you

1175
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: order that? When you order that, what are you eating?

1176
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: All right?

1177
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: So it's typically a sandwich, crisps or chocolate bars, anything

1178
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: and a drink.

1179
00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: That's it.

1180
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: That's the same way.

1181
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: So what do you mean what kind of sunwich?

1182
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: There's lots of sandwicheswich.

1183
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 2: It's always different. There's so many officers chicken bacon. They

1184
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: do the seasonal, the Christmas one with like.

1185
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: It does sound all right, but I gotta tell you,

1186
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta say British food.

1187
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: Okay, but he sounds like he's describing a wah wah

1188
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: or a sheets have it is like this is like

1189
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 3: if they put a deli of the future inside a

1190
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 3: gas station and on the computer screen you can add so.

1191
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: In or sheets.

1192
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 4: You go in there and you can buy all your

1193
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 4: like your your Mountain dews and you can pay for

1194
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 4: your gas all that stuff.

1195
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: But in the corner they have like a you order

1196
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: made to order screen and you pump in rice bowls,

1197
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: hogs wraps, you name it, order made to order. Then

1198
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: they make it fresh and then give it to you.

1199
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: And if you go to sheets, everything there has a

1200
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: shut sound. So you can order a schmuffin, or you.

1201
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 3: Can add anything to anything. You can cross breed different.

1202
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: But they are money. They are money. Yeah, all right,

1203
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: so you you you the next time you come to

1204
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: the States, we gotta do the Arnold Allen is what

1205
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: I get down.

1206
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: This is a problem as well. So since I've been

1207
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: off the like I stopped eating pork, right, and the

1208
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: meal deal selection, the gas station selection is fucking plummeted.

1209
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: England is like back, everything is pork. Everything good is pork.

1210
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 2: So since I've come off the pork, It's been pretty ship,

1211
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: all right.

1212
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 3: Every man has a vice in life. Some people's are

1213
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: worse than others. As I look around our gross staff.

1214
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: Just you know, Luke is is a pretty presenting, decent

1215
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: human being. He's a great dad and a great a

1216
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 3: great you know citizen, but you know he vapes like

1217
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: a white trash ship. What is the vice that's like

1218
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 3: threatening to get in the way of your fight career

1219
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 3: that you've got to keep down?

1220
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: Like, is it is it?

1221
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: Is it the gas station food or what is it?

1222
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: Is it the trashy women.

1223
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: I mean.

1224
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: I had this. I have a game of play. Actually

1225
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 2: any time, so anytime someone's driving, you know, you see

1226
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 2: someone trying you fape, so you probably do it. They

1227
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 2: always have their window crack like two inches, right they

1228
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: we see him getting a bit angry in traffic, look

1229
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: at that.

1230
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah I do that.

1231
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, anytime you're in traffic, you see a cloud beep anytime,

1232
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 2: then you the more a beep, the more smoke comes

1233
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: out of the window. So I sit in traffic just

1234
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: gonna be.

1235
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 3: So his vice is ship starting.

1236
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: He's basically the dick behind me. Yeah, through day I.

1237
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: Start doing I was just I was driving so much training.

1238
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: I was so bored and I see someone driving like

1239
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: big cloud of smoke, bo some of that another cloud. Yeah.

1240
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 3: But how hard is it to live the spartan left

1241
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: style ahead of a fight, to like be like I

1242
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 3: have to say no to this desert or this anything

1243
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 3: because I am focused on victory.

1244
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 2: Easy. I don't really have any advices. I don't drink,

1245
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: don't smoke, don't What is.

1246
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 4: The hardest part about your life? And what I mean

1247
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 4: by that is like the life you've chosen. So training,

1248
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 4: just traveling, there's fighting, which is dangerous. When you think

1249
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 4: about a day to day, what would you say the

1250
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 4: biggest difficult parts about it?

1251
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: It's a pretty good life. I got not a lot

1252
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: to complain about me. It's not getting injured so I

1253
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: could train more. Yeah, I don't know, just uh, the

1254
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: hardest parkes I like doing. I got like mountain biking.

1255
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: I do a bit off road in and my truck

1256
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: and that, but just not injuring myself doing that. So

1257
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: I got like mountain bike and and you jumps and stuff,

1258
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: and I kind of look at it. I can't jump that.

1259
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 2: I might break my legs.

1260
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 4: I was just like the cowboys arounding thing, right, Yeah,

1261
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna go ride some great white sharks with

1262
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 4: some saddles that I mean, I'm like, I don't know

1263
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 4: if that's a good one.

1264
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 2: Told me they put it in his contract fight week

1265
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: or something like.

1266
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: A TVs like that. He can't do. He's retired until

1267
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: after the.

1268
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that that was that's not it's probably not

1269
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 2: it's extreme ast him, but like, yeah, the week before

1270
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: I thought I was in Montreal and I didn't know

1271
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: they had this thing and it's French Canadian. They called

1272
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: it the gell and it means like defrost, like when

1273
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: the ice is like defrosting, like the mud in the

1274
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: mountains becomes like a swamp. I do not go up there.

1275
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: So whatever that, I'm going up the mountains, one of

1276
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: these Canadians can I just finished my last sparing of camp.

1277
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: I'm going up now. I'm taking my jeep and I'm

1278
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 2: driving off road up that mountain. And yeah, I nearly

1279
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: rolled down a cliff basically, and I have a few

1280
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: photos like hanging out. It doesn't actually look that bad

1281
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: in the cliff. I was with my missus and she

1282
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: was like crying and thinking we're going to die and

1283
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 2: all this, and I had to get some like guy

1284
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 2: to come.

1285
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: This is a Tuesday in my youth.

1286
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm just sitting on the cliff in my

1287
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: jeep looking down, fucking over that roll down there. I

1288
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 2: probably have to pull out this.

1289
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 3: Fight and you're probably dead. Yeah, rolled down the rusty.

1290
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 2: Old jeep, Yeah probably. Yeah. Luckily I didn't roll down,

1291
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: and the fight went through.

1292
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 4: All best and worst things about Canada. Oh, let me

1293
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 4: ask you when you were in Montreal, like and when

1294
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: you stayed there, did you see Toronto?

1295
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: Did you see Vancous.

1296
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to Toronto and everyone was really nice.

1297
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: That's that's not a joke. No, no, no, Like the

1298
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: Canadians are actually very friendly.

1299
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 2: So the weird thing is when I first went there,

1300
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: this is my missus, she's Canadian as well. She made

1301
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 2: a joke like she's from Montreal. No, no, she's she's

1302
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 2: she's she's yeah, little.

1303
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: French.

1304
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: She speaks French, but she's not.

1305
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 4: Not like that.

1306
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 2: But when I first went there, like, it never clicked

1307
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: in my mind why George s Pierre talked the way

1308
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 2: he did. I thought they were all like English in Canada.

1309
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: And then someone said that. She said to me, she

1310
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 2: was like, why do you think George speaks the way

1311
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: he speaks?

1312
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: I was like, huh, he didn't know.

1313
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 2: The first day I was like, I was on the

1314
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: way there and what if they're teaching French? I was like,

1315
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: what do you mean teaching French Canada? Was like, it's

1316
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: gonna be English Canada. It's like the Queen's on the money.

1317
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: It's like, what are you talking about? Yeah, fortunately don't

1318
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 2: but I didn't know, but yeah, the French is probably.

1319
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: I have a lot of like Quebec our friends and

1320
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: French friends. That's probably the worst thing about especially being

1321
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: all of my French friends. Sorry.

1322
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: The best best part about Canada the mayonnaise on the

1323
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: French fries.

1324
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we'll go with that.

1325
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: The worst.

1326
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: Another worst thing the gas stations. They have like greasy

1327
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: bags of cheese curds and like the checkout you go paying,

1328
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 2: it's like as if it's like, you know, sweets and

1329
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 2: candy and it's like a greasy bag of cheese on it.

1330
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, is wrong with French Canadians? Do you know

1331
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 3: how to funk around?

1332
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? I like that.

1333
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 3: That's that's a sneaky said to me that you know

1334
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: Montreal Club super Sex. Yeah, club kids. I'm not legally

1335
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 3: to speak any more of that, but wow, wow, dude,

1336
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 3: I feel like we could have been hanging a long

1337
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 3: time ago. You know, we met Michael Kea. We're like, man,

1338
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 3: you are a proper American dirt hale and we love you.

1339
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: You're a proper British back h.

1340
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: I like Canada. It's nice. I did. I like the

1341
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 2: winter and stuff because I like the off roading. I

1342
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 2: like going and take the truck.

1343
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: I like that do Canadian winter.

1344
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of my thoughts. So, like I said,

1345
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 2: when I first got a bit of money, I won

1346
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: my bonus, I'm like, I'm going to one of the

1347
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: big gyms. I'm going to go train there. It's going

1348
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: to be great. I was trying out try staff and

1349
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: I wasn't because there's this figure. He's like I think

1350
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: he does everyone says he does it to everyone other

1351
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: though he might not be aware he does it. But

1352
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 2: he seemed like really mean. Like I went there for

1353
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 2: one month, yeah, and I was like that was he'd

1354
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: make jokes, he'd use me for the demo and he's

1355
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: like mock me in front of like one hundred people,

1356
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: Like I'm supposed to come. I travel all the way

1357
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: across the world to come here, and yeah, treat me

1358
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: like ship. I told my dad you first, and I

1359
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 2: have actually a funnyess my dad. So yeah, fres is

1360
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: like that, and I was like, okay, that's weird. I'm

1361
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: not coming back here. Like the end of my month

1362
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: was up. I was like, I made some friends, but

1363
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: I ain't coming back here. And he took me aside.

1364
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, we're family now, Like make sure

1365
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: you come back anything you need wherever you're finding I'm there, like,

1366
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: I'm your man. If you need me, I'm there. I

1367
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: was like, I'm fucking confused, like okay, And then I

1368
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 2: went home and I was thinking I was looking at

1369
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 2: going like att or something and someone like that. And

1370
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: then I always thought if you went somewhere like Miami

1371
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: is going to make you soft, you know, like end

1372
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: up sitting on the beach drinking like wherever they are,

1373
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 2: they're fucking momosas and ship and hanging out and doing

1374
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 2: that ship. It's like Canada is the way. It's fucking shit.

1375
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 2: It's not ship sick, but where the gym is just

1376
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 2: like industrial, it's not like all nicest, uh, Winter's fucking shit.

1377
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,919
Speaker 2: It's horrible. It keeps you sort of like tough horror. Yeah,

1378
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: so I like that. And I went back and he

1379
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: was nicer and nice and nicer so that it was

1380
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 2: a sweetheart honestly, like literally from that first session. But

1381
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: I've had people go there and say the same thing.

1382
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 2: And then they went back and he's like, yeah, he said,

1383
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: we're like family now, and invite me over for me

1384
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 2: Hero Machi.

1385
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 3: That broke Hulk Hogan's leg the first time he tried

1386
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 3: up from Yes, I don't care because he wanted to

1387
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 3: test him. Yeah tough enough.

1388
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah so your wait what the one thing I say

1389
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: with my dad The first time my dad came to

1390
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: try style, GSP was on the map. My dad definitely

1391
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 2: knows who GSP is. He must know is like, oh,

1392
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: the place to come over. I'll introduced George and my

1393
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: dad to GSP is like, what is it? George said,

1394
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: your son's doing really.

1395
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 3: Well, like maybe you know, I'm impressed by yourself like that, and.

1396
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: My dad was like patted him on the back. He's like,

1397
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: keep working out, mate, you'll get there. And George is

1398
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: like okay, and they just sort of walked off, like

1399
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: turn around, keep up, mate, you'll get You'll get there.

1400
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:38,479
Speaker 3: He says.

1401
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: Surely he's taking the piss like you're messing her out right.

1402
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 2: He's like, nah, who's George Dick? I madamant. He knows

1403
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: he's just been. He doesn't know he's been. Keep worry.

1404
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 3: We've had breakthrough moments. We've been lucky last year and

1405
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 3: a half as UFC fans like Juliana Paine, you, Jamal Hill,

1406
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 3: Polar Time, Leon Edwards, where someone went from you know,

1407
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 3: contender to like break through world champion in an emotional way.

1408
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 3: When I watch that, I get inspired about my own life.

1409
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 3: It's like the human spirit watching it break out. What

1410
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 3: do you feel when you watch Leon Edwards head kicking

1411
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 3: round five, when you watch Jamal Hill become the new

1412
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 3: champion because they like, you could close this calendar a

1413
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: year with that exact same thing happening.

1414
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going nuts when Leon got that, to

1415
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 2: be fair, that was up at like four in the morning,

1416
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 2: just screaming at the TV. But yeah, he's especially with

1417
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 2: someone that you know personally, you've trained with him, you

1418
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: see him achieve what your dreams are, and like it

1419
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,919
Speaker 2: just makes it more attainable, you know. Like I was saying,

1420
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 2: coming from like a small village, small town, the first

1421
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: time anyone remotely coastal area got to the UFC, it

1422
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: was like, oh, ship, like that can be done, you know.

1423
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: It was he was like from an hour and a

1424
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: half or whatever. Wasn't the first John McGuire, who's a

1425
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 2: coach now, right, John mcgwuay, Yeah, I think he's I

1426
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: know he's trained out in Vegas a lot, but that

1427
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: was that was one of the first guys. There was

1428
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 2: a gym tsunami Tsunami Gym, and they had loads of

1429
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: loads of really good guys I don't know, if you know,

1430
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: like Rob Olivia and Jack Mason, guys like that, John

1431
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: Maguire and Jokim Hanson was training with.

1432
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: Boy.

1433
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I learned from him. He's an interesting guy.

1434
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 4: They don't talk about him. Him and Fader or two

1435
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 4: of like the guy. I mean, FAD's obviously different level.

1436
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 4: Two guys who were loved who never fought in UFC.

1437
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1438
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a cool guy. But I have some

1439
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 2: interesting ideas, something about transhumanism and a chip and some stuff.

1440
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well you know, but.

1441
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 3: I mean when when you watch this stuff, I mean

1442
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 3: it's like, like, what would it actually mean for you

1443
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 3: to close this year and become a UFCAM.

1444
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like my whole If I don't ever, if I

1445
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 2: don't achieve that ever, like everything I've done, it's a

1446
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 2: fucking waste. Like I've just trained my so this is

1447
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 2: all Yeah, like I'm gonna retire with some off hands

1448
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: and U you know, some fucked up ears for no reason.

1449
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's that's it, Like anything less ship. So

1450
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 2: it's everything.

1451
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 4: Dude, it means everything I want to I do want

1452
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 4: to ask one question before we wrap here, which is

1453
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 4: so from the American perspective, the English are clearly football

1454
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 4: crazy and they be very boxing crazy as well.

1455
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: Are they emma crazy yet? Ah?

1456
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 2: I mean if you're Paddy Pimley, you'd probably say.

1457
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, in certain ways they might be.

1458
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, certain areas. It's See. The thing with Liverpool is

1459
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 2: like if you're from there, the people that support their

1460
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 2: people there, they're so passionate, like if you're from there,

1461
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 2: you're getting support, it's it's great, Like it's so good

1462
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 2: the way they back their boxes, their fighters, their football team,

1463
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 2: like they were all in like you could just be

1464
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 2: born on the same street they're in.

1465
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1466
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 2: Well, like if you're from where I'm from, like I

1467
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: said earlier that they don't give me a ship like

1468
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: they can care less. I kind of like it that

1469
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:51,959
Speaker 2: way to be honest.

1470
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, do you think with Leon becoming a

1471
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 4: champion obviously we alread being but like having two British

1472
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 4: champions at one time, what would that transform.

1473
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: U K M M A.

1474
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 2: I don't think it makes a difference. I feel the

1475
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: old ladies in the high Street was to figure. Yeah,

1476
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 2: I don't think they really they're going to be whatever.

1477
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: They never know. You never know, Like there's never been

1478
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: like Michael.

1479
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 4: Michael obviously is very famous, but he got famous largely

1480
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 4: during his American run. He was Wolf's Lair at the time,

1481
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 4: remember that Wolfslair. But what I mean it's someone homegrown

1482
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 4: who's here, who also becomes a big star here that

1483
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 4: probably hasn't happen yet. Like Leon got the belt, God

1484
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 4: bless him. That was an amazing thing that he did.

1485
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 4: But it's not He's not like a huge star yet.

1486
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 4: Like imagine if Patty had Lee's ability.

1487
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, what would that look like? I don't know what

1488
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: that would look like.

1489
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I feel if he was Championpe McGregor, it's

1490
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 2: that I don't know to keep bringing him up, but

1491
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: it's the perfect song for that. They would be that

1492
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: kind of level of fame. Someone asked me the other

1493
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 2: day about someone introduced me at some engagement part and

1494
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 2: he said fights in the UFC and he's like, oh cool,

1495
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 2: when's you? Like, you know, did you find the London

1496
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 2: card he was there? I was like yeah, he was like,

1497
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 2: oh you was on the Paddy UNDERCARDO.

1498
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: Was event.

1499
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, like people, people don't know, you know, people

1500
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: people don't, people that don't really follow it. They're kind

1501
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 2: of more football fans that follow I think they think

1502
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 2: someone like that has got a bit of noise. They

1503
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: assume he's the champion. Yeah, yeah, so that they were like,

1504
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 2: they're just he's the champ, right.

1505
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: What the good part is for you? Like not necessary?

1506
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 4: There's anything wrong with fame seeking? There is, but if

1507
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 4: you don't want it, you're in a pretty good spot

1508
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 4: to There's some that's going to come with it no matter.

1509
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're in your hometown, stay in your

1510
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 4: hometown exactly, Like you don't have to really worry about it.

1511
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 2: But it's Leon. Leon for me is like the perfect blueprint.

1512
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 2: You know, he's the champion, he's famous, but he's not

1513
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 2: like everywhere, he's not. He's not seeking the fame. Like

1514
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 2: one of the things when the press conference when they

1515
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 2: asked him about the boxing Canelo if you want and

1516
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 2: he shut it down show out. I love that. It's like, yeah,

1517
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: that's that's so real, Like you ain't why are you

1518
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 2: chasing that other than for money and famous, Like yeah,

1519
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 2: obviously we want to get paid. But it's nice to

1520
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: hear someone be like realistic about it, Like, yeah, I'd

1521
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 2: love the box, but I don't think I'm going to

1522
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,479
Speaker 2: go take them boys out. Now that's a world.

1523
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 3: Wait, So separate from the path you're on, Separate from

1524
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 3: fighting in for and winning the title, Separate from fighting

1525
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 3: Max Holloway, which is a big deal. Separate from the title.

1526
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 3: Is there anybody that you're like, I want to fight

1527
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 3: that person before my career is over. I would love

1528
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: to fight that. And it could be crossover mixing in

1529
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 3: the middleweight. I mean, you know, it could be Connor,

1530
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 3: it could be Patty. I mean, who the hell is it?

1531
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 3: Who the hell is your dream opponent? Separate from the

1532
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 3: title chairs my brother, Oh shit, this family, it's better

1533
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 3: and better right now, Jake Allen, You've been calling this

1534
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 3: motherfucker out for a long time, right.

1535
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 2: Beat me up for a long time. So I used

1536
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 2: to collect dragons like I used to collect pottery dragons,

1537
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 2: like posting the dragons well as a kid. Yeah, and

1538
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 2: my brother, my brother, he's a he's a dick. So

1539
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 2: he used to go in my room and I'll be

1540
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 2: downstairs and he shout me shout, and I'll come off

1541
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 2: a fuck. He's got like the big one he's got

1542
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 2: the big dragon and he would just throw it at

1543
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 2: me downstairs and it would smash like he would torment me,

1544
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 2: and they get no more smash it you. I'd save

1545
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 2: up all my pocket money by this dragon and he

1546
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: would smash it.

1547
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 3: Sounds like a bully beatdown episode.

1548
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: Road thumbs up, brother thumbs down.

1549
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he used to torment me. He used to. He

1550
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 2: pinned me down and pin me down. He'd shaved like

1551
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 2: stupid haircuts in my hair spray after shaving my eyes

1552
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: to see if which one.

1553
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure any of this.

1554
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 3: Okay, So, but when you got to the level you're

1555
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 3: at now, did the respect changers. He's still is he

1556
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 3: the older brother? Yeah, so you'll never not be the

1557
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 3: The other problem is an m M A fire.

1558
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 2: I beat him hands down when the street fight fucking

1559
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 2: killed me. Yeah, he's insane, the.

1560
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: Old brother thing, because you know he got that strong

1561
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: man gripped.

1562
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 3: Your older brother doesn't care about your gym at all.

1563
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 2: He's horrible, like he's Yeah, he's nasty man. I wouldn't

1564
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 2: want to fight him in a street fight, no way.

1565
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:07,479
Speaker 3: Did he go to your friends?

1566
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, actually he was in the corner for the

1567
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 2: last one.

1568
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh Ship, I gotta pay more close attention here

1569
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 3: to get that audio that that corner.

1570
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: Of the audio. So it's just for Oz and then

1571
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys from Suffolk. Yeah, just my family.

1572
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 2: But the funny fel Mob brother. He's if he was

1573
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,439
Speaker 2: like in my position, he would be the guy talking

1574
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 2: ship to everyone.

1575
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: He would be right.

1576
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 2: He's always saying, it's like, listen, they will call me off.

1577
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: I gotta start fucking telling everyone this. Yeah, we're fucking coming.

1578
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 2: I'm like what he's like, tell Max Holloway, he's getting it.

1579
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 2: He's like, tell gonna be fucked up, shout up.

1580
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 3: If you ever thought about unleashing either your dad or

1581
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 3: your brother full time on them, making like I'm thinking,

1582
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 3: so for example, what time we're here, We got to

1583
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 3: get the whole fan.

1584
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 4: Like Tyxon Fury's got a big mouth, but John Fury

1585
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 4: does a lot of it for for the for Tommy Fury. Also,

1586
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 4: like in boxing, Talem Lopez talks a little bit, but

1587
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 4: his dad crazy ship, you gotta get you gotta be

1588
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 4: like the guy like.

1589
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't talk like that. And then and your family

1590
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: members just have assault. Motherfucker.

1591
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 2: My father would be that all right. I was worried

1592
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 2: about it when we brought him to because it was

1593
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 2: the first learners of the class. He might get a

1594
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 2: bit weird because he's gonna be hooked up Fox and

1595
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: he saw he was really respectful, cool. But yeah, he's

1596
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 2: always calling me like you need to poke some shit,

1597
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 2: like you need to stop cooling everyone tell Volkanowski's getting it?

1598
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 3: Do you want to tell anybody on the show that

1599
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 3: they're getting it?

1600
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 2: Male or female in the UFCV.

1601
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 4: That's well, listen, man, I gotta tell you. It's been

1602
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 4: great to have you here. This is my first time

1603
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 4: interviewing you, so I'm glad we made it in this

1604
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 4: kind of scenario. Mowgli over here, Moguli April fifteenth, the

1605
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 4: big Max Holloway fight. Don't know where it is just yet. Yeah,

1606
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 4: I can't wait to find out.

1607
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 3: All Right, to close Stereotypically, when we're talking about the

1608
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 3: UK and Ireland, I call UK plus people don't want

1609
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:45,799
Speaker 3: to join.

1610
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: Me in that. I warned him against this.

1611
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 3: Oh you know we're talking about Scotland, Wales, the Geordie. Sure,

1612
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 3: we're talking about everything. Where are the toughest people from?

1613
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 3: Is it like the US military where they all argue

1614
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 3: Marines want to fight Navy and to prove that the toughest.

1615
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: You're all for British World Marines is pretty tough.

1616
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 3: Okay, but who are the toughest in the Like where

1617
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 3: do you have to be from?

1618
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 2: Is it?

1619
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 1: Is it?

1620
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,440
Speaker 3: I switched England? Is that does that provide the toughest.

1621
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: You know, like it's like he's what farmers? So I

1622
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 2: heard a guy like drop the horse once with a punch.

1623
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: Dude, Okay, we're just punching horses in English.

1624
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 2: Someone said it wouldn't like I don't know, he was

1625
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 2: trying to train it and it wouldn't set when he

1626
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 2: hit it and it dropped it. I don't know how true.

1627
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 2: It is probably bullshit, But like if.

1628
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 3: We had a tough man contest like Birmingham versus Crumblin,

1629
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I mean who's what what area

1630
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 3: is is? Those are the real motherfuckers.

1631
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 2: It's not to say anymore, you know, they kind of

1632
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if there is any He's.

1633
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 3: Like popp the you know, male hood in this part

1634
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 3: that got softened. Yeah, yeah, that's that's why the Allens.

1635
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: Are keeping it all school tucked away in the cut.

1636
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 4: That's what they're doing. Yeah, I gotta tell you, Arnold,

1637
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 4: it's been great to me. Yeah, and I can't wait

1638
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 4: to see what happens on April fifteenth. I wish you

1639
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 4: nothing but the Max.

1640
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: We love you.

1641
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 3: But according to his family, you're getting it. You are

1642
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 3: getting it, okay.

1643
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 2: If Jake Allen sends you any messages, honestly, he does.

1644
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 2: He said he was speaking to.

1645
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: He said, he's sending your opponent's voicemails on inside.

1646
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 2: He was I don't know if you're trying to wrap

1647
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 2: it up. But he asked me, he said, after Dan

1648
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 2: Hooker fights, did you guys speak after I saw him

1649
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 2: in the hotel after and he didn't want to talk

1650
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 2: this fair enough, like he had his glasses and wanted

1651
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 2: to go fair enough long way to fucking get that result.

1652
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 2: I get it. He b he didn't wish you lucky.

1653
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 2: He didn't speak to him or nothing. No, He's like,

1654
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 2: I'm gonna send him a message, no respect on nothing

1655
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 2: to you off your head. I get it.

1656
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 3: There are levels to be in a badass. He's willing

1657
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 3: to actually touss on the street with I.

1658
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 2: Think it is Calvin's coach Tyson. Tyson, my brother was

1659
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 2: talking to him after. He was like, oh, he sent

1660
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 2: us a nice message. I was like what, Like, what

1661
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 2: were all about it. He's just you know, wishing us

1662
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 2: well and his.

1663
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 3: Brothers at home, just checking recept growing dad.

1664
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: That's a buddy comedy, right.

1665
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 2: The insane.

1666
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 3: Until until they're arrested.

1667
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, Arnold's great work on Everything was able fifteenth, But

1668
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 4: I hope twenty twenty three is a great year for you.

1669
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 2: He's my favorite arrest Yeah everyone, Yeah, sweet