Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera jeedge.
Speaker 2: I, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
Speaker 2: a Pod. But it's myself and.
Speaker 3: Alexia.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 3: Hi, how are you a podcast with me?
Speaker 2: You know it's all right.
Speaker 3: I know I'm not camera. Like I've always said, I
Speaker 3: have like big shoes to fill, but it's it's a
Speaker 3: lot of fun. I'm really enjoying watching the show and
Speaker 3: talking to you about it.
Speaker 2: I agree, and we I feel like each week it's
Speaker 2: getting juicier. I feel like last week we had a
Speaker 2: little bit of a filler episode, and then this week
Speaker 2: it starts become a good one.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I have.
Speaker 2: Some theories that I want to debunk a little bit
Speaker 2: once we get a to that, but before we have
Speaker 2: some housewife headlines we need to dig into. Okay, this
Speaker 2: first one, Vicky Gumfilson sued by seventy four year old
Speaker 2: woman for financial elder abuse. In this in Touch exclusive,
Speaker 2: it says, according to documents obtained by in Touch, Vicky
Speaker 2: sixty two, I love how they always put our ages.
Speaker 3: I hate that, by the way, like I don't actually
Speaker 3: that's so important, right.
Speaker 2: But also like I don't need Peloton to put my
Speaker 2: age either, Like I don't need to know that. I'm
Speaker 2: like riding my bike and somebody of a certain age
Speaker 2: is beating me. Like I don't need to know your age,
Speaker 2: Like your name is enough. I agree, But she was
Speaker 2: sued by a woman named Diane Field. Also listed as
Speaker 2: a defendant in the lawsuit is Vicky's company, Codo Insurance
Speaker 2: and Financial Services. Diane accused Vicky and her partner Alie
Speaker 2: of financial elder abuse, claiming they had her Interer inter
Speaker 2: harmful deals. She said Ali convinced her to transfer funds
Speaker 2: and stocks to an outside firm managed under Ali at
Speaker 2: Fidelity Investments, had her take out life insurance policy without
Speaker 2: telling her it cost three hundred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 3: That's expensive, it is, that's a lot. That's a lot
Speaker 3: for life insurance. I mean, I don't even know what
Speaker 3: the limits are. I think it did say a limit.
Speaker 3: I think there was a three million dollar policy. So
Speaker 3: it is very very pricey.
Speaker 2: But I mean, how do you just get surprised with
Speaker 2: a three hundred thousand dollar bill. I was annoyed today
Speaker 2: because I had to log onto this new website and
Speaker 2: pay twenty four dollars, so three hundred thousand, and then
Speaker 2: Diane said.
Speaker 3: What are you getting for that? Right? Because I mean
Speaker 3: it's so much money. I don't know if it had
Speaker 3: like a cash value. And some of these life insurance
Speaker 3: policies have a cash value, which means that it's like accumulating.
Speaker 3: The money's there and it's accumulating more money, and you
Speaker 3: can at some time cash out.
Speaker 2: But this woman's seventy four years old. When is she
Speaker 2: going to cashaw?
Speaker 3: I agree, and I think this is her main concern, right,
Speaker 3: she wanted this money for her children.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she said. Diane said it in reliance of
Speaker 2: Vicky's fraudulent sales taxics and her promises that this anunuity
Speaker 2: would help lower her income taxes. She transformed money into
Speaker 2: the Aliens two to two indexed and unuity, she said.
Speaker 2: In December twenty twenty two, she told Vicki and Ali
Speaker 2: she was concerned about their investment recommendations over the years,
Speaker 2: explaining that she felt uninformed by them and that the
Speaker 2: annuities and life insurance policy they convinced her to open
Speaker 2: did not seem to be the best investments for her,
Speaker 2: as they tie up large sums of money for a
Speaker 2: long time that she may never be able to use
Speaker 2: for maybe longer than she will live or be too
Speaker 2: old to enjoy. The lawsuit demanded unspecified damages for the
Speaker 2: defendant's alleged contact. Back in twenty eighteen, Vicki was sued
Speaker 2: by an eighty two year old woman named Joan Lyle
Speaker 2: for fraud over life insurance pol she was sold. The
Speaker 2: suit was dismissed months later. So of course we don't know.
Speaker 2: We're not lawyers, we don't know what happened here. People
Speaker 2: like to sue. There could be truth to this, or
Speaker 2: there's this could be not but nobody in their businesses
Speaker 2: want to be sued, especially publicly, and especially when it
Speaker 2: comes to elder abuse like was Jinshaw was elder abuse
Speaker 2: as well, right.
Speaker 3: Of course, and this did make me think of that
Speaker 3: obviously because it brought me back to what jen was doing,
Speaker 3: which was different. But it also involves elderly people, so
Speaker 3: it always makes it more more sensitive, right, And you're
Speaker 3: more sensitive to these kind of things when you're dealing with,
Speaker 3: you know, elderly people that are confiding in you. But
Speaker 3: is Vickie a financial advisor? I mean I think she
Speaker 3: was just selling insurance.
Speaker 2: That's what I was confused about, because like I have, Yes,
Speaker 2: I have somebody I went to try to get life insurance.
Speaker 2: Granted I was rejected because of all my skin cancer
Speaker 2: stuff and I waited too long to get it, But
Speaker 2: that is a completely different person than I have.
Speaker 4: For your finance, my finances, Like I have somebody over
Speaker 4: at you know, whatever it is, Bear Stearns or blah
Speaker 4: blah blah, forget Morgan and Stanley, whatever company it is
Speaker 4: that that's now morphed into that, right.
Speaker 3: I agree same, I feel exactly the same way. So
Speaker 3: I'm very confused. How you know this woman just really
Speaker 3: confided and big PI for all of this advice that
Speaker 3: apparently she wasn't able to to give it properly, you know,
Speaker 3: to advise her properly. I mean, that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3: First of it's a lot of information. I mean, the
Speaker 3: article was so long and it had so much information
Speaker 3: in it that you would just have to like go
Speaker 3: step by step. And like you said, we're not attorneys,
Speaker 3: you know, we're not in this business, so we don't
Speaker 3: know how much truth to it there is or isn't.
Speaker 3: It's allegations for now, I mean, she is being sued.
Speaker 2: But also I think this goes to show and this
Speaker 2: happens a lot in the housewife world we're seeing. And
Speaker 2: I'm not accusing this person just allegedly.
Speaker 3: I know what you're going to say.
Speaker 2: This Alli at Fidelity Investments is probably some sort of
Speaker 2: partner of her. She probably has not much to do
Speaker 2: with whatever it is that he does, but they work together.
Speaker 2: But that's the problem, especially when you're in the public eye,
Speaker 2: you join forces with somebody else, and we see this
Speaker 2: all the time, to that person, fox over somebody and
Speaker 2: then your health.
Speaker 3: You're the one your headline, right, yeah, I know, and
Speaker 3: the headline is that, you know, it's like the Real Housewives.
Speaker 3: You know, that's why this is picking up traction because
Speaker 3: of who she is, and she's a public person, and
Speaker 3: you know a lot of people feel that, you know,
Speaker 3: it's just easier to go after someone when they're public,
Speaker 3: and you know, maybe you know, they just want to
Speaker 3: like shut everything down and they'll come to some you know,
Speaker 3: kind of mediation or agreement. But you know, we'll just
Speaker 3: have to give it time, right to see, because the
Speaker 3: other person that did to her apparently it was discharged
Speaker 3: or you know, nothing.
Speaker 2: I was dismissed, but I don't think back in two
Speaker 2: thousand and eight, Ali was a part of it. So
Speaker 2: I think, I don't know. I think we might need
Speaker 2: to do a little deep dive into Ali and what
Speaker 2: that business is and is that tied to her insurance
Speaker 2: company or is that somebody she just refers or you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like how.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it just came out. Maybe in the
Speaker 3: next couple of days, you know, Vicky will release a statement,
Speaker 3: you know, stating her defense or her part.
Speaker 2: I don't think she's going to release anything. I think that,
Speaker 2: especially when our lawsuits involved, you have to kind of
Speaker 2: keep quiet, which I think for somebody like Vicky is
Speaker 2: extremely difficult, especially if she feels like she is in
Speaker 2: the right. It's going to be hard for to be quiet,
Speaker 2: especially now that she has a podcast where she can
Speaker 2: openly speak. So hopefully for her sake, Hopefully for her
Speaker 2: sake she stays quiet and let's play out and that
Speaker 2: you know what we're reading isn't actually true. I mean,
Speaker 2: regardless of how I feel about Vicky, you never want
Speaker 2: to believe the worst in someone. In that regard, I agree.
Speaker 2: What about this next one? Peacock sets Real Housewives dating
Speaker 2: show spin off with Luanne de Leceps, Giselle Bryant, Shannon Storms, Thedoor,
Speaker 2: Ashley Darby Peacock is giving Real Housewife fans something they're
Speaker 2: sure to love. The streaming network has set a new
Speaker 2: dating reality series which will gather eligible singles in a
Speaker 2: quest to win the hearts of four of Bravo's Biggest Bachelor.
Speaker 2: This actually makes me laugh. And then filming will take
Speaker 2: place in September and Cabo sam Lucas, where the woman
Speaker 2: will be offered a diverse dating pool. The show is
Speaker 2: expected to air sometime next year. The one Okay, My
Speaker 2: main thought is okay, I'm watching Too Hot to Handle
Speaker 2: I recap it with Emily Simpson. I watch Love Island,
Speaker 2: I watch The Bachelor, Like if it's a dating show
Speaker 2: I want. But when you look at these women we're
Speaker 2: discussing right now, they are so different.
Speaker 3: They are to me, this is well. First of time, I'm
Speaker 3: super excited that they are going to have a show
Speaker 3: like this because I feel like that's what the audience
Speaker 3: wants to see. You know, everybody loves to see love,
Speaker 3: you know, and finding love and relationships and you know dating.
Speaker 3: So I feel like it's going to get like a
Speaker 3: lot of attention and people are going to love this.
Speaker 3: But I was a little bit confused about the choice
Speaker 3: of women, right, and not only because I feel like
Speaker 3: the biggest thing for me is that Ashley Darby's in it,
Speaker 3: and she's thirty nine and the rest of the girls
Speaker 3: are like, you know, in their fifties, so there's like
Speaker 3: a twenty year age gap, and she's so legally married.
Speaker 3: So right, she's legally married. I mean, yes, granted they're separated,
Speaker 3: but I mean whatever, bachelor's there, you know, ye man,
Speaker 3: I feel comfortable with her situation, and I don't know,
Speaker 3: I just found it like kind of weird. I'm excited
Speaker 3: Gazelle because I know Gizelle is very private and she's
Speaker 3: never really shared to watch on TV about her personal life.
Speaker 3: I happen to be friends with her and we'll on
Speaker 3: you know, to my Girls trip together, and I did
Speaker 3: get to know her personally, and she's like, I love her,
Speaker 3: and it's going to be interesting to see her out
Speaker 3: of her comfort zone because I know this is for
Speaker 3: sure not like she's not going to feel comfortable with him,
Speaker 3: but maybe we see a ug of Zelle, right, like
Speaker 3: a new side to her. Well.
Speaker 2: Also just imagine like first dates are awkward in general,
Speaker 2: but like first dates.
Speaker 3: On camera right on nationally right that like.
Speaker 2: First dates with a complete stranger. But my only other
Speaker 2: concern is on any other dating show you have complete
Speaker 2: you know, people coming from you know, obscurity, Like they're
Speaker 2: coming from all over the country, nobody's known. All of
Speaker 2: a sudden, now we have known people, we have men
Speaker 2: vying to win them over. Like, does this mean all
Speaker 2: the men are going to be starfuckers?
Speaker 3: Could be? Right? And how can you invent gate that? Right?
Speaker 3: We already have that on TV on these shows already, right,
Speaker 3: Like the guys start dating these women can potentially be
Speaker 3: that or want that, So it's going to be interesting.
Speaker 3: Like it didn't say anything about their bachelor so I
Speaker 3: don't know how that bachelor pool is going to be
Speaker 3: you know, figured out. And also it kind of reminded
Speaker 3: me of like the Millionaire Matchmaker, Oh, which right, so
Speaker 3: it was like you know, celebrities and just like regular
Speaker 3: civilian guys or whatever the other way around, And it's like,
Speaker 3: are these what are their intentions? Is it because the
Speaker 3: guys want to date somebody famous and be on TV
Speaker 3: and have that platform, or is it because they're really,
Speaker 3: you know, just looking to date someone and have fun
Speaker 3: or fall in love.
Speaker 2: But the other thing is that we're not really discussing
Speaker 2: which millionaire matchmaker or any of those other types is
Speaker 2: these women they all live except for Giselle and Ashley,
Speaker 2: they all live in different locations. So the biggest thing
Speaker 2: I think is hard for a relationship to be sustainable
Speaker 2: is a long distance relationship, especially if you've got busy
Speaker 2: women on television shows. Right, So, like, when this is
Speaker 2: all over, how is love going to be sustained? These
Speaker 2: men are going to move to where they are.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not gonna be We already know the conclusion.
Speaker 3: It's not happening. It's just gonna be fun to watch.
Speaker 3: We're gonna laugh ause new end. It's very entertaining. And
Speaker 3: and she loves to date, you know, I think she's
Speaker 3: gonna be great on the show. And and you know,
Speaker 3: Shannon is like a new stage in her life, you know,
Speaker 3: so we might be surprised, you know by her too.
Speaker 2: And yeah, of these four girls, who would you date?
Speaker 3: I date? Okay, so I'm not into girls, but if
Speaker 3: I already date one of them. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: think it would be probably Gizelle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, I know Gizelle. I think Gizelle would
Speaker 2: be my pick. Like I always, I get that vibe.
Speaker 3: We have the same taste in women's teddy.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, let's fight it out right now.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. This next one, Alexis Bellino and Johnny
Speaker 2: j do Carlos King's podcast, Reality with the King. Of course,
Speaker 2: I love Carlos King, but I'm going to break down.
Speaker 2: I'm going to read through exactly the things that they said,
Speaker 2: and then we'll talk about it after the majority of
Speaker 2: people don't know that John didn't want to film with Shannon,
Speaker 2: but she wouldn't have survived if she didn't have the job.
Speaker 2: He's hurt financially and emotionally due to Shannon's lies about him.
Speaker 2: Bravo isn't at fault for this, and the cast doesn't
Speaker 2: like him only because they believe drunk Shannon. Okay, just
Speaker 2: keep moving on. Carlos asked that what it was like
Speaker 2: dating Shannon. John responds, I just challenge people to think
Speaker 2: what it might be like dating Shannon. Being with Shannon
Speaker 2: was like failing all day every day. Alexis says she
Speaker 2: started filming three months after the death of her mom
Speaker 2: and her breakup with her fiance, which is why she
Speaker 2: was so emotional. John is not a fame horror because
Speaker 2: John offered to pay Alexis the same amount of money
Speaker 2: as Real Housewives of Orange County if she didn't do
Speaker 2: the show. John only does red carpets with her because
Speaker 2: she asks him, and John regularly denies the interview request.
Speaker 2: It will be shown probusely throughout the season that Shannon's
Speaker 2: words have no merit. Alexis says Shannon is a liar
Speaker 2: and again alludes to that being exposed later on in
Speaker 2: the season. How does he love bamb you if he's
Speaker 2: broke and doesn't give you anything? Huh and you're paying
Speaker 2: for everything? How does that make sense? Nothing makes sense.
Speaker 2: You'll see more of Shannon's erratic and emotional roller coaster
Speaker 2: as the season progresses. Real Housewives of Orange County has
Speaker 2: true friendships, and so does Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3: But the other inside is Miami. By the way, I
Speaker 3: I was like, what about that?
Speaker 2: And she goes but Themi but the other franchises don't,
Speaker 2: which is why they're not as good as Real House
Speaker 2: plays Orange County, I'm like, I actually beg to differ.
Speaker 2: Alexis adores Ryan and Jen and she says he's a
Speaker 2: stand up man for taking in Gin and her kids.
Speaker 2: She doesn't want to speak on his legal drama. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's okay for someone who doesn't want any attention and
Speaker 2: doesn't want to be talked about and would be willing
Speaker 2: to pay his significant other what she would make salary, yeah,
Speaker 2: or her friend of self first.
Speaker 3: So I already have a problem with that because you
Speaker 3: have money to pay your significant other not to be
Speaker 3: part of the show, but you don't want to pay
Speaker 3: for your ex girlfriend's facelifts and you're actually suing her.
Speaker 3: So I'm just not okay with that.
Speaker 2: But what I begin with the issue with is like, if
Speaker 2: Alexis wants to do the show, let's say it has
Speaker 2: nothing to do with him, I would be so freaking
Speaker 2: pissed at my boyfriend or husband or whatever it was
Speaker 2: if he was like, I'll pay you not to do it, Oh,
Speaker 2: why so you can control me?
Speaker 3: Of course, there's a sign of a narcissisist and of
Speaker 3: a control freak. Yeah, Like, I don't like that. And
Speaker 3: by the way, Alexis's storyline is John.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it would be one thing if Alexis came
Speaker 2: on and maybe this is going to shift. And I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that we had a lot of fun with
Speaker 2: Alexis when we hung out with her, I did not
Speaker 2: see the side that we're seeing throughout this season so far.
Speaker 2: But I agree it feels like they're just trying so
Speaker 2: hard to stick it to Shannon when really, yeah, do
Speaker 2: I think Shannon's perfect?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Do I think that Shannon and Johnny Jay's relationship was toxic? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Do I think Shannon was at fault for a massive
Speaker 2: amount of it, for sure, But that doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: you don't need to tread lightly if you're going to
Speaker 2: start a relationship with somebody's ex and enter her television
Speaker 2: show with them.
Speaker 3: I just I agree with what you're saying. And she
Speaker 3: knew what she was getting herself into, Like you know,
Speaker 3: she knew who he was and he knew who she was,
Speaker 3: and she came. She's come in strongest season to just
Speaker 3: make Shannon feel uncomfortable and just to like stick it
Speaker 3: in her face, and all she talks about whenever she
Speaker 3: is on TV is about John and her.
Speaker 2: And sex and the gym and this and that and
Speaker 2: how great he is and how wonderfully is it? Like
Speaker 2: I want to learn more about her. I'm happy to
Speaker 2: hear about her, you know, past breakup with her fiance,
Speaker 2: where her lives changed, her kids, her family, her life,
Speaker 2: her friends were like anything.
Speaker 3: Well, she has a friend row for now, and maybe
Speaker 3: that's why she's just you know, participating in a smaller capacity,
Speaker 3: had less time. And where was she at Where was
Speaker 3: she at the Coyote Ugly Dancing Night? No, she wasn't
Speaker 3: this episode. You don't see her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's why she must have gone on Carlos
Speaker 2: King so we could still talk about her. So here
Speaker 2: we are.
Speaker 3: Okay, congratulations exactly right. And then as far as like
Speaker 3: she's saying, well, you know if John has like no money,
Speaker 3: how did he love moomb you? So love bombing is
Speaker 3: not only with material things, you know, love bombing? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, these you know, first of all,
Speaker 3: I have a problem with like all these women on
Speaker 3: the show that they miss you know, use all these terms, right.
Speaker 3: They love to say gas lighting and love bombing and
Speaker 3: narcissism and all these terms that are like overly used,
Speaker 3: but they really do exist, and it's a real thing.
Speaker 3: But love bombing isn't only with material things. Love bombing
Speaker 3: is most dangerous because it's their words and their actions
Speaker 3: and their lives. You know, they're like, you know, telling you,
Speaker 3: telling you how much they love you, and you know,
Speaker 3: they want to spend the rest of the life with you,
Speaker 3: and they want to take you here and they want
Speaker 3: to take you there. So it's not only material things,
Speaker 3: but it's like promising a lot of like empty promises.
Speaker 2: And telling you that they're going to make you feel
Speaker 2: this certain way and doing things that make you feel
Speaker 2: a way that somebody else hasn't made you feel. And
Speaker 2: being a friend of is her disadvantage because she doesn't
Speaker 2: get to show a personal storyline. But here's where I
Speaker 2: have an issue with that. So they're only showing her
Speaker 2: talking about John, Right, there is a lot of friend
Speaker 2: of that still get into the mix with the other
Speaker 2: women and talk about the drama within the show, not
Speaker 2: solely about themselves. Right, we have not seen that yet.
Speaker 3: So that I've seen the same thing. So and that's
Speaker 3: her disadvantage for sure, because she could have gone in
Speaker 3: there and started a friendship and a relationship with you know,
Speaker 3: a few of the other women because she knows them,
Speaker 3: and that's what we're all there for. You know, it's
Speaker 3: a show not only about you going in there and
Speaker 3: saying you know your story or what you want the
Speaker 3: audience to know over the other girls, but it's about
Speaker 3: opening up and being authentic and genuine and just you know,
Speaker 3: getting in there with the rest of the women and
Speaker 3: you know. Sure, she has a disadvantage.
Speaker 2: And I hope that we you know this throughout the season.
Speaker 2: I hope we see heislows. I hope we see a
Speaker 2: change in her. I hope we see her friendships bond.
Speaker 2: I hope we see a shift with Shannon. I hope
Speaker 2: all of these things happen. But all of this happening
Speaker 2: in the press before we see any change. It's just hard.
Speaker 3: No, this is gonna make it harder. I agree. I mean,
Speaker 3: John just doing this interview with Carlos King just kind
Speaker 3: of again, he's like feeling the fire. It's like, if
Speaker 3: you really don't want anybody to talk about you and
Speaker 3: you don't want to be part of this, then just
Speaker 3: step out like this is not your show, and compose
Speaker 3: her pictures and Shannon in the storyline, and he gave
Speaker 3: Shannon the storyline. I mean, this is what happened. This
Speaker 3: is what happened, and she's sharing it now, and you know,
Speaker 3: I think it would have been different if Alexis wouldn't
Speaker 3: have come in as a front. For sure, you know
Speaker 3: it wouldn't have been the same because obviously Shannon does
Speaker 3: have a relationship with the rest of the girls on
Speaker 3: the cast, and you know they treat her differently. You know,
Speaker 3: they're being empathetic, they're listening to her either calling her
Speaker 3: out when they need to call her out, but you
Speaker 3: know they're also her friends and you can tell.
Speaker 2: But I think she's about to hit the fan next
Speaker 2: week for Shannon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. You know there's one episode like that
Speaker 3: then the next one comes back, so for sure.
Speaker 2: But the episode starts where Heather and Terry have a
Speaker 2: drink at their penthouse. Heather says she is in a
Speaker 2: good spot with everyone since Terry's stroke. She doesn't have
Speaker 2: time for drama. But the whole scene on the balcony,
Speaker 2: all I could think was, what if there's an earthquake.
Speaker 3: Like, well, you you're thinking that, you're so funny. I
Speaker 3: would never think that because we're in the balcony out
Speaker 3: here all the time, so we never have to worry
Speaker 3: about those things. I you know, hurricanes, but you know
Speaker 3: hurricane usually you know there's it's advice before, so we're
Speaker 3: aware of it. But so you were thinking that how scary,
Speaker 3: because like.
Speaker 2: It really was a big It was a little bit
Speaker 2: dicey there. But what I have realized is there's not
Speaker 2: been many I was kind of going through a history
Speaker 2: of trying to find out the relationship between Heather and
Speaker 2: Terry because they always seem pretty much on the same page.
Speaker 2: So they're like kind of well oiled machines with showing
Speaker 2: the relationship on camera, giving us.
Speaker 3: Enough they work well, I need to we need to
Speaker 3: learn from them. I was gonna say, to learn from Heather.
Speaker 2: She's a pro at that. But then Tamra, Emily, Gina, Jen,
Speaker 2: and Katie take a party bus to a bar. Tamar
Speaker 2: did not invite Shannon. Then we see Emily Piana Bush
Speaker 2: and she falls in it and kind of pulls Ham
Speaker 2: into the bush as she's doing it. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: say it with Piana Bush, not.
Speaker 3: Like camera though, I feel like we've all done it
Speaker 3: on our show, Like the girls love to pee anywhere
Speaker 3: because the girl might.
Speaker 2: Didn't you guys peet a polo field? Am I getting?
Speaker 3: I feel like we peet everywhere, honestly, especially like Marisol,
Speaker 3: Like she always has to pee. You know. Obviously they
Speaker 3: try to go for the bathroom, but if there's no bathroom,
Speaker 3: they have no shame in just putting down their pants
Speaker 3: and peeing. But I did, like, I just need to
Speaker 3: wipe myself, so like if there's no paper, like, there's
Speaker 3: no way I'm doing it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know I'm not a drip dry kind of gal,
Speaker 2: but I did understand having to make if you've never
Speaker 2: met somebody's husband or their kids and you have to
Speaker 2: make small talk within seconds to go pee, I probably
Speaker 2: would rather pee in a bush joo.
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I'd rather go in and say excuse me,
Speaker 3: But like I have to be so you know, I'll
Speaker 3: stay hello and goodbye at the same time. But I
Speaker 3: need to be. But I would have gone inside. But
Speaker 3: it's a funny moment. It was funny.
Speaker 2: It was funny. Do you think it was done for
Speaker 2: TV or do you think it was just.
Speaker 3: I think she can do that. No, I think that
Speaker 3: Emily would do something like that. I think she's so
Speaker 3: much fun I'm really enjoying her on the show, and
Speaker 3: I'm enjoying Gina a lot.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, mm hmm. She did some funny things.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: Then Katie's friend said that Heather this storyline honestly is
Speaker 2: punishable one the fact that me and Cynthia were both
Speaker 2: brought up in regards to the story. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: mentioned it on the podcast years ago, like no one
Speaker 2: cares anymore, no one gives two shits.
Speaker 3: Well they do, because they're still bringing it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, Okay. So Katie's friend said that Heather
Speaker 2: hired paparazzi at Disneyland and she has a screenshot.
Speaker 3: Tamra said, that's very housewipey, right, Seddie.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm just trying to start with that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but if I was going to show the screenshot, it
Speaker 2: should not because this is where I'm having issue with
Speaker 2: all of it. And I know we're skipping to the
Speaker 2: end of the episode, but I feel like we just
Speaker 2: cover all of this right now. Katie saying, I had
Speaker 2: no idea there was drama about There was no idea.
Speaker 2: I had no idea there was drama involving this paparazzi thing,
Speaker 2: and my friend reached out to me and blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and now I just feel like she's a liar. That's
Speaker 2: actually not what we saw. We saw a text that said,
Speaker 2: can you confirm something along the lines of can you
Speaker 2: confirm that Heather called the paparazzi on herself at Disney
Speaker 2: And the response was yes, yes, that that is very different.
Speaker 2: That is somebody that's doing the same thing that she's
Speaker 2: accusing Heather for.
Speaker 3: She's accusing that head and professional. Heather made that point.
Speaker 2: I mean, it would have been different if we saw
Speaker 2: the text that Heather sent saying to that pop razzi, right,
Speaker 2: but like Heather just asking, I mean I could text
Speaker 2: that to my freaking mom right now and she could
Speaker 2: respond back yes, and we could show the text.
Speaker 3: Of course. Well, I mean I think first of all,
Speaker 3: it proves that so that's so new season, first season
Speaker 3: housewifely that you have to come in, you know, especially
Speaker 3: to get into the group and to kind of like
Speaker 3: cop your moment and make a moment where you have
Speaker 3: to bring up something like that and you know, go
Speaker 3: against like the star, which is Heather. I mean, they're
Speaker 3: all stars. Let's you know that. I see them as
Speaker 3: all of them as stars. But you know Heather, which
Speaker 3: is kind of like the one that they're afraid of
Speaker 3: that you know, get some sort of different like respect
Speaker 3: or you know, she's always like had like that role,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's like I felt that.
Speaker 3: That's how I feel, you know that they've always So
Speaker 3: she's going like the underdog is going like after Heather
Speaker 3: and even though the rest of the girls are like,
Speaker 3: are you sure you want to do that? Like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, we're so scared for you. So she came in,
Speaker 3: you know, as as the rookie, as a new one
Speaker 3: already like trying to fight Heather.
Speaker 2: But if you're going to go for somebody, you got
Speaker 2: to go for them for something good. Because the two
Speaker 2: things of like calling paparazzi and yourself. Yeah, I laughed
Speaker 2: at it on the podcast with Taraman said pop parazzi
Speaker 2: really aren't at Disney searching people out, but I will.
Speaker 3: Everybody knows that. Even Kim Kardashian and Jaylo called the
Speaker 3: paparazzi like yeah, like I'm waiting outside of Disneyland waiting
Speaker 3: for Heather and Terry. They're not here. We care.
Speaker 2: But also the whole thing about Heather accidentally tagging her
Speaker 2: in a photo on her birthday and like, can you believe?
Speaker 2: But who cares?
Speaker 3: Who cares? Well, you know, I think that they need
Speaker 3: to like dig a little deeper because it's like a
Speaker 3: lot you know. I feel like to Heather obviously because
Speaker 3: she has been part of the show for so many years.
Speaker 3: When you have a new person that's coming into the group,
Speaker 3: you're gonna do your homework. Yeah, you can do some digging,
Speaker 3: and you know, you want to have information about this person.
Speaker 3: Everybody does that. I'm not even not offended. Yeah I'm
Speaker 3: not on the show.
Speaker 2: And I still went on Katie's Instagram and looked.
Speaker 3: Right, but I wish that well, Heather did say that,
Speaker 3: she said that she's girled like through the instagram her
Speaker 3: with Emily, I think, and so she did admit to that,
Speaker 3: but it's kind of like, you know, you should have
Speaker 3: told her. Yeah, you know what, Katie, we've been you know,
Speaker 3: this friends group, have been friends for X amount of
Speaker 3: years and you were coming you into the group, and
Speaker 3: I had to do a little bit of homework. I mean,
Speaker 3: I wanted to get more information about you, and that's
Speaker 3: what it is. And by the way, you were doing
Speaker 3: the same thing. You know, Katie was doing the same thing.
Speaker 2: And then I didn't appreciate that our girl, Cynthia got Branda,
Speaker 2: and Cynthia is one of my good friends. I love
Speaker 2: cynthiaa and Cynthia really isn't she.
Speaker 3: Should have been on the dating game.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I would have been one. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: there's maybe more people and announce like why is there
Speaker 2: only four girls? Like you know what, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: gonna text Cynthia when we get off. But I don't
Speaker 2: think that. Cynthia probably went to Katie and was like, oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, all Heather could talk to me about
Speaker 2: was you. I think Heather probably, like all of us,
Speaker 2: when you're about to meet a new housewife, say oh
Speaker 2: I saw your friends with this person, give me the juice.
Speaker 3: Right right, being detective, like they all do that, right.
Speaker 3: But I think for sure, like Katie wanted to have
Speaker 3: her moment like going against Heather, like saying, you know what,
Speaker 3: like I'm new, but like I don't care. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call you out and whatever. I need to
Speaker 3: call you out so like you can respect me and
Speaker 3: and you know, kind of like to set the grounds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, then Gina is upset that Katie told the
Speaker 2: women about Heather, and Emily says, Heather is going to
Speaker 2: fucking destroy her. You see, but I do think can.
Speaker 3: We talk about it? I love how Gina said. I'd
Speaker 3: love this that Gina said this. So when she has
Speaker 3: Katie come over, she's like, are you going to talk
Speaker 3: to Heather about it? Because if not, I'm going to
Speaker 3: tell Hewther. Yeah, but she gave her that opportunity. I
Speaker 3: think that that was a great movie. You know, That's
Speaker 3: something that I would do. And I thought that was
Speaker 3: really incredible. I mean, that's what real friends do.
Speaker 2: And we ultimately find out that Katie pusses out and
Speaker 2: so then Tam has to step in and do her work.
Speaker 2: But before we even get to that, we're still at
Speaker 2: the bar. We're at the Coyote ugly time, and I
Speaker 2: just all I could think about is the next time
Speaker 2: my drink comes out of the soda gun, I'm going
Speaker 2: to re think about this scene because I'm going to
Speaker 2: think about my choices, what beverage I've ordered, And I
Speaker 2: also want to think about the man sitting at the
Speaker 2: bar who's living his best life in his plaid flannel
Speaker 2: just like.
Speaker 3: Thating so good, that was fun. I would have wanted
Speaker 3: to be there. I've never done something like that, so
Speaker 3: I thought that was cool. And I'm all, I love
Speaker 3: a creoty moment, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't hate any of that moment.
Speaker 2: I didn't love, and I would tell Emily to her
Speaker 2: face I didn't love when we got the flashback of
Speaker 2: Emily making the comment to Jen that she looked rich
Speaker 2: wearing her coat.
Speaker 3: Oh that was mean.
Speaker 2: Yes, I thought it was a little like we'd already.
Speaker 2: Jin's taking me accountability for not having money. It's very
Speaker 2: clear that anything she does do her boyfriend's paying.
Speaker 3: For, right, But isn't that the case for like a
Speaker 3: lot of women, you know what I mean. It's like
Speaker 3: the only thing is that Jen's not legally married to Ryan.
Speaker 3: But you know, when you're in a relationship, whether it's
Speaker 3: your boyfriend or your husband, you know, the men usually
Speaker 3: pay for the trips or by you gifts or you know,
Speaker 3: take care of the expenses.
Speaker 2: I mean, do I need it with that? Are you
Speaker 2: saying I need to marry somebody else? Because why is
Speaker 2: that not happening for me?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Sometimes this morning I texted Tamra because we have one
Speaker 2: million things to do today. And I said, why didn't
Speaker 2: I just wake up and be like doctor Nicole, Like,
Speaker 2: why is it just not endless finance? Like I just
Speaker 2: want to have all the things.
Speaker 3: Well, you don't know, I mean, yeah, but you know,
Speaker 3: you never really know everybody's real life behind closed doors.
Speaker 3: You know. That's all I can tell you. Not everything
Speaker 3: you know that glitters this gold, you know. And I'm
Speaker 3: not speaking for her. I'm just saying I can speak
Speaker 3: for like a lot of women you know that you know,
Speaker 3: they may have like this, you know, beautiful amazing life
Speaker 3: financially or you know, have a certain kind of like
Speaker 3: life that a lot of women aspire to, but sometimes
Speaker 3: there's a big price side to pay for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean personally, I like to I.
Speaker 3: Personally rather work, to tell you the truth. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's great if you're like married to you know, a
Speaker 3: wonderful man that supports everything you do, and you can
Speaker 3: like keep your money and you can just pay for everything.
Speaker 3: And you know, we can work because it makes us
Speaker 3: feel good. And you know, we love our careers, we
Speaker 3: love what we do. It makes us feel good about us.
Speaker 3: And yes, you can contribute to the home or to
Speaker 3: vacations or whatever it may be. But it's not like necessary.
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm sure if your household needs it
Speaker 3: and you make good income, like I don't have a
Speaker 3: problem with that with contributing, Yeah, yeah, but I mean,
Speaker 3: Jen is in the situation she's in now, and of course,
Speaker 3: no matter what she does, whether it's glam or going
Speaker 3: on a trip or driving whatever car, other girls are
Speaker 3: going to come after her and say, you know, why
Speaker 3: are you doing this, Like you don't have the money
Speaker 3: to do this, And I think that's like really mean,
Speaker 3: but also and literally necessary.
Speaker 2: Clearly she doesn't have the money to do it. She's
Speaker 2: I think this is also something that happens to so
Speaker 2: many women her entire life. She has had somebody else
Speaker 2: manage her money, manage her life, manage her financials. She's
Speaker 2: unable to do it on her own, and now she's
Speaker 2: in a situation.
Speaker 3: She says she doesn't feel like up to part with
Speaker 3: the rest of the ladies, Like she doesn't feel good
Speaker 3: about herself. She doesn't think she's good enough, you know,
Speaker 3: for this group of women, because you know, she doesn't
Speaker 3: feel good about herself because her life right now is
Speaker 3: like falling apart, but then other girls are like, but
Speaker 3: you're not doing anything about it, right, Like that's like
Speaker 3: their defense.
Speaker 2: But I would be pissed if like you loaned me
Speaker 2: your jacket and then you walked up to me like
Speaker 2: as we're leaving and you were like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: I didn't recognize you, teddy because you looked rich because
Speaker 2: you're wearing my clothes. I'd be like, go fuck yourself,
Speaker 2: me too, Like why yeah, like why wouldn't she find
Speaker 2: herself in that moment? Like she didn't find she just
Speaker 2: kind of was like, yeah, I am broke. Ha ha.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, that's where you step in and
Speaker 2: be like fuck you.
Speaker 3: Well, because you have that personality, so do I. But
Speaker 3: I think she's just kind of just like just wanted
Speaker 3: to go away, and she's just like embarrassed and she's
Speaker 3: just rather, you know, puke fun of herself and that's
Speaker 3: what she's doing. Okay, Yeah I'm broke, who cares?
Speaker 2: But no, I think they would stop if she would
Speaker 2: actually grow some cojones and be like, yeah, you know
Speaker 2: what it is, what it fucking is. I am broke,
Speaker 2: I've made poor financial decisions. But you either like me
Speaker 2: as I am and with my shit show relationship or
Speaker 2: you don't but don't fucking love me your coat and
Speaker 2: then make fun of me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think that was cool.
Speaker 2: But then Vicky goes to Shannon's house. Vicky says Tamama
Speaker 2: didn't have the balls to call and say she was
Speaker 2: dropping out of the Trace and Meta show. Vicky says,
Speaker 2: Tamara has been a girl in her veins and a
Speaker 2: black heart. That's a fucking that's a big statement. Then
Speaker 2: Shannon says this was an opportunity for her to make
Speaker 2: additional income as a single mother of three girls in college,
Speaker 2: and tam are dropping out devastation. I'm going to clear
Speaker 2: a couple things up that I know for certain, because.
Speaker 3: Yes, please do that, because I had some questions about that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So first and foremost, Vicky and Shannon can spend
Speaker 2: what you know, spend whatever narrative they want. But I
Speaker 2: know for a fact that Tama was very upfront with
Speaker 2: the women and Paris the rep or the agent or
Speaker 2: whatever he is about how she was very busy with
Speaker 2: her podcast businesses, home and Big Bear her family to
Speaker 2: continue the Trace Amiga's tour. She also booked traders and
Speaker 2: was going away on that as more things were being booked,
Speaker 2: then she told them multiple times. And then when Paris,
Speaker 2: who again signed without Tamor's consent while she was in Scotland,
Speaker 2: asked Tammar to do more shows, she said no. Also,
Speaker 2: Shannon's financial should not be Tamor's issue. That to me,
Speaker 2: that's a weird deflection. Like I love you, I think
Speaker 2: you're great. You know, we we do a good podcast together.
Speaker 2: But like, at the end of the day, your financials
Speaker 2: are not my problem and mine are not yours. Like
Speaker 2: I'm having as a friend.
Speaker 3: When you can't make your decisions, you know, based on
Speaker 3: my finance. It's like you have to look out for
Speaker 3: whatever's good for you.
Speaker 2: When you're filming a show, when you have like Tamar
Speaker 2: and I podcast multiple times a week. We have so
Speaker 2: like we are both spread very thin and I don't
Speaker 2: even film a TV show, so like I can only
Speaker 2: imagine what she's going through. But she I heard and
Speaker 2: I saw multiple times where she was like, this is
Speaker 2: too much for me. I can't do this. I also
Speaker 2: don't you know, like and I think they also, I
Speaker 2: mean they hired Paris while she was in Scotland, so
Speaker 2: she had to say no.
Speaker 3: To him.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like she term was not somebody to be
Speaker 2: afraid to tell somebody.
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, that didn't seem true to me. You know,
Speaker 3: I just didn't believe that, you know, after so many
Speaker 3: years of friendship and you know, doing the tour and
Speaker 3: the whole thing, that she would just like step away
Speaker 3: and not have the conversation with him or let anybody know.
Speaker 2: But also, it wasn't so many years. It was like
Speaker 2: four shows. That's what we have to do. Four Yes,
Speaker 2: our podcast has been going on for years. Their show
Speaker 2: like they had four or five shows. But also we
Speaker 2: need to make one additional point. Paris the rep he
Speaker 2: actually no longer works with Vickey and Shannon m So, okay,
Speaker 2: you rest your case. Yeah, so you know what I'm not.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not always gonna be biased, but in
Speaker 2: this instance, I watched it play out, and I don't
Speaker 2: like when I see those two coming. I mean, Tamar
Speaker 2: did four shows and a span of five months with them.
Speaker 2: Tam and I do probably five shows in the course
Speaker 2: of a week.
Speaker 3: Right, That's what I'm saying. It was her decision of
Speaker 3: financial and besides out, like you said, she was in
Speaker 3: Traders too. It was too much for her and as.
Speaker 2: Your proba, can't do this from our living room, right right,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: And besides that she has a choice. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: I get it to Shannon and Vickie me tamar but
Speaker 3: you know, Tamarra did it what she can do it
Speaker 3: and enjoyed it, and it was just time for her
Speaker 3: to you know, continue with with her with her things.
Speaker 3: And it wasn't that.
Speaker 2: But then they showed Shannon got a letter from John's
Speaker 2: lawyer saying she owes him seventy five thousand. Shannon gets emotional,
Speaker 2: saying even going to court will cost more than seventy
Speaker 2: five thousand. Then they showed Jen and Ryan packing for Vegas.
Speaker 2: Jen wonders if you can't post in Vegas because everyone
Speaker 2: will be judging why her broke asses in Vegas. She
Speaker 2: starts to get emotional. Ryan says, bank accounts come and go,
Speaker 2: but being rich in your soul is what matters. Jen
Speaker 2: gets emotional, sayings she is hyper sensitive because she doesn't
Speaker 2: feel equal to the women. All I know is Jen
Speaker 2: has never met a home goods that she hasn't needed
Speaker 2: to buy a mug from. Like I have a real
Speaker 2: issue with sayings on things like I used to give
Speaker 2: Marisol ship when she would like have the bedazzled cups,
Speaker 2: and it would say things like I don't like words
Speaker 2: on things. I really don't, okay, And what does she have?
Speaker 3: What does Jenna? Oh my god, I mean between she
Speaker 3: did have something.
Speaker 2: Yes, I can't even remember what it was. It was
Speaker 2: like something having to do with what was going on
Speaker 2: is said on the mug and it's and we called it.
Speaker 2: Oh it said be fucking nice. Okay, mug.
Speaker 3: So the mugs are like sublip or be fi nice.
Speaker 3: There's sb liberal messages to what you're trying to say.
Speaker 3: I rather just say it with my mouth. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't hate this scene, but I also like,
Speaker 2: I don't know that I would really care if people
Speaker 2: thought I was broke or not broke and going to
Speaker 2: Vegas like do.
Speaker 1: We do you? Do you?
Speaker 2: Of course no.
Speaker 3: I didn't enjoy it either, And the fact that she
Speaker 3: made it seem like, oh, I'm worried about if we post.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like who cares? Like, you know, do
Speaker 3: you and go on your trip and you know you
Speaker 3: don't have to give people explanations And by the way,
Speaker 3: everybody knows that you are living with Ryan and he's
Speaker 3: you know, taking care of everything. And what's wrong about
Speaker 3: going on a trip with your friends, I mean with
Speaker 3: your with Ryan, like your friends should be happy for you.
Speaker 3: You know, she's going through a lot of shit, so
Speaker 3: I never go to Vegas and have fun.
Speaker 2: I think that might be the problem.
Speaker 3: We're not.
Speaker 2: We're seeing like I feel like a shell of gin.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if this is because of Ryan
Speaker 2: or what the situation is, but I haven't felt a
Speaker 2: real connection with her in any of the women. So
Speaker 2: we're just seeing her like you know, hitting the balls away.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I think because then we get like
Speaker 2: top editing where it's like Gina says Jen will spend
Speaker 2: money on gleam for the golf event, and then they
Speaker 2: show her in this glam chair like it's it's all
Speaker 2: of it, But we're not. I haven't yet seen Jen
Speaker 2: connecting with the other women. Really. It's very.
Speaker 3: Protective. She's being protected of herself and you know she
Speaker 3: might be scared, you know when you're in a like
Speaker 3: situation like that too, and the girls aren't really being
Speaker 3: so nice to her and kind of like giving her
Speaker 3: that moment where she can be vulnerable. She's just kind
Speaker 3: of like trying to avoid that.
Speaker 2: But then we get to this golfing event and I
Speaker 2: need to know, could Katie have really put her foot
Speaker 2: in her mouth or did she know that hosting a
Speaker 2: drinking and event police.
Speaker 3: And Shannon was right next to her. That was like
Speaker 3: the funny part. Shanna kind of like laughed and continued, like,
Speaker 3: you know, doing her her nail.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think she hadn't laughed. I think she like
Speaker 2: died inside.
Speaker 3: She was like no, but she was laughing. I looked
Speaker 3: and she was like laughing. Yeah. And Heather of course
Speaker 3: called it out. But you know, Shanna did laugh about it.
Speaker 3: But I thought that was like poetaste. I mean, she
Speaker 3: didn't make it funny and whatever. But you know, she
Speaker 3: was being a house like listen, these new houseworks come
Speaker 3: in and they know all the things they have to do.
Speaker 2: They come in, they've got their friend, they've got their script.
Speaker 2: They're like they're going for it, like they're like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get it where I can get it. And so
Speaker 2: that it may have been funny if it wasn't, because.
Speaker 3: It was still so painful for Shannon. I wouldn't have
Speaker 3: said that but I.
Speaker 2: Mean we probably would have said it, but there's a
Speaker 2: way to say things with shade, and there's a way
Speaker 2: to say things and then pretend that you don't realize
Speaker 2: you're saying it. That bugs me. If you're going to
Speaker 2: be an asshole, own that you're a fucking asshole, right
Speaker 2: like when you're like yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, but usually assholes don't own that they're assholes.
Speaker 2: Oh, I love to own that I'm an asshole. I'm
Speaker 2: the biggest asshole there is. I can be lovely, but
Speaker 2: I'm an asshole. But then Katie goes to Gina's house,
Speaker 2: we hear more about the paparazzi thing. But what I
Speaker 2: did get confused about was now we're talking about Gina
Speaker 2: and Travis. Oh, yeah, she's worried because they're not to get.
Speaker 3: You made this, you did this, you did this, You
Speaker 3: created the situation, and she made the choice. Well do
Speaker 3: you think she's taking it back? I mean, she feels
Speaker 3: lonely and I understand that, but they obviously still have
Speaker 3: a relationship. When her kids were at Travis's house, so
Speaker 3: I did like that. And she says he lives like
Speaker 3: across the street or across the corner, like very close by,
Speaker 3: so I'm.
Speaker 2: Sure they both have those same you know, they look
Speaker 2: like they're in a development where every you know, you
Speaker 2: just rent those places. He probably rented one nearby so
Speaker 2: their kids can go to and from. But I thought
Speaker 2: the whole reason was that the kids needed separation from
Speaker 2: the other kids, So then why are you sending them
Speaker 2: over there? Oh?
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't think it was that Benny did separation.
Speaker 3: My understanding was that the house was in like big
Speaker 3: enough that you know, everybody was on top of each other,
Speaker 3: so you know, they needed more space, and they really
Speaker 3: didn't have you know, the money right now. But no,
Speaker 3: I mean I think the kids.
Speaker 2: Am I not smart? Help me? If you're going to
Speaker 2: rent two places in the same budget area, Kate, you
Speaker 2: put those two moneies together and then get a slightly
Speaker 2: bigger place that you can rent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think there's more to that. We always
Speaker 3: said that, you know what, we've been on the podcast before.
Speaker 3: We've said that we think that there's more issues there.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not only that, you know, they needed
Speaker 3: a bigger place and they couldn't afford it.
Speaker 2: But Gina owned her place. Gina owned her place. I
Speaker 2: didn't realize that Gina bought her place. I do think
Speaker 2: it's very different. They wanted to buy something, for sure, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they wanted to buy something. And if she solely owns
Speaker 2: her place and they were feeling like on top of
Speaker 2: each other, then she's like, you got to figure it
Speaker 2: out until you can step up and help us figure
Speaker 2: this out. But then we get to Katie's golf event.
Speaker 2: Katie's as the winner gets protest sunglasses. I gotta say
Speaker 2: I was expecting Katie to be a better golfer.
Speaker 3: I think we all were. I think everybody's going to
Speaker 3: be surprised. Besides that, you would think she would also
Speaker 3: golf with her husband, Like that's a fun activity to do,
Speaker 3: like as a couple. Like if my husband was a golfer,
Speaker 3: I would totally try to like take lessons and be better,
Speaker 3: and that's something you know you can do as a couple.
Speaker 3: I would think that that's fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I actually I would hate to golf.
Speaker 2: I'm very grateful one it's not a golfer, but I
Speaker 2: love to play pickleball. But I also probably wouldn't have
Speaker 2: been so attracted. I couldn't take it to somebody who
Speaker 2: worked in golf like it's just not my it's not
Speaker 2: my thing, but she said she was. She was like,
Speaker 2: when I saw him, I couldn't even take it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so hot.
Speaker 3: But how do you feel like about him? Like that
Speaker 3: seemed that they had together on the dinner table that
Speaker 3: she's like, you know, talking her head off about everybody.
Speaker 3: He seemed you know, well. I mean it's the first
Speaker 3: time on camera, so it's like part from him as
Speaker 3: well too, so kind of like the men don't know
Speaker 3: what to say, they don't know how to act. But
Speaker 3: I feel like he looked uncomfortable between you and I.
Speaker 3: I feel like he looks uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think he's just like a nice,
Speaker 2: normal guy that's going with the flow. His wife wants
Speaker 2: to be on this television show all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: and he's like, all right, i'll show up. I'll do
Speaker 2: what you want to do. I don't think he's upset
Speaker 2: that he's on, but he's also like, how much do
Speaker 2: you really want me to get involved?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Like please?
Speaker 3: I got that feeling for him too.
Speaker 2: Then Tarama tells Heather that Katie said she called the paparazzi.
Speaker 2: Heather asked for proof because she's never done that. Heather
Speaker 2: tells Katie she knows she's been talking about her in line.
Speaker 2: Katie says she has a screenshot of the text, and
Speaker 2: Heather swears on her kit. I really don't like when
Speaker 2: people swear in their kids life. I know.
Speaker 3: I don't think any of us liked it, or even
Speaker 3: the girls that were there, they were like, what are
Speaker 3: you doing? I never do that? And if I have
Speaker 3: to do it, it's like, you're like, and if I.
Speaker 2: Have to do it, You're like, and if I have
Speaker 2: to do it, I'm lying because I really no, No.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd never like to do that. I agree,
Speaker 3: but you know it is but with her in her case,
Speaker 3: you can tell she's lying. I mean, because we all
Speaker 3: know that, we all know that you have to reach
Speaker 3: out to the paparazzi. They're not going to be there
Speaker 3: waiting for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, when you walk outside of Craigs, you
Speaker 2: don't have to reach out to the paparazzi.
Speaker 3: No, there's certain places right which Tamra brings up that
Speaker 3: apparently Heather likes that, you know, where everybody's different, Like
Speaker 3: Tamara doesn't like it. I don't like it, but you're right.
Speaker 3: I Craigs is there sometimes at mass Jo's in La
Speaker 3: There's the other places, Giorgio Baldi, There's a lot of
Speaker 3: places in La where you have the proparazzis waiting for
Speaker 3: you outside, but not Disneyland but.
Speaker 2: Not and but also it's at this point I wish
Speaker 2: Heather would have just been like, yeah, my friend, you
Speaker 2: know someone that works for me, probably let them know
Speaker 2: was there.
Speaker 3: It is what it is.
Speaker 2: There were rumors about my marriage at the time, and
Speaker 2: then I wanted to clear them up. Like that's really
Speaker 2: all she needed to say, because it was during that
Speaker 2: same time that we were hearing rumors correct. Things were
Speaker 2: not great between Heather and Terry, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden we saw all these pictures of them everywhere.
Speaker 3: Just say like, I feel like a lot of the
Speaker 3: ladies have a problem, just saying it like you see
Speaker 3: it that way. I see it that way too, because
Speaker 3: we're like authentic and real. But a lot of people,
Speaker 3: and a lot of these girls on the show will
Speaker 3: never be that person. You know, they'll never admit it
Speaker 3: and they'll never say hey, you know, yeah, you know this,
Speaker 3: I was going through this in my life.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: We thought it would be a good idea to get
Speaker 3: a nice picture of us showing that we're together. It's
Speaker 3: important whatever, like you sink, But it's never gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Do you think she's gonna admit to it? Do you
Speaker 3: think ever? Do you think the rest of the season
Speaker 3: she's gonna have But no, I got MoMA or in
Speaker 3: their reunion and she's gonna admit to it.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: Some of these women stick to the story and to
Speaker 3: their life and they're not gonna move on and say,
Speaker 3: you know, ever say the truth.
Speaker 2: And I truthfully think that if Katie doesn't move on
Speaker 2: and find something else to talk about, this might be
Speaker 2: our only season that we see because it's not enough.
Speaker 2: It's not enough, not enough.
Speaker 3: You know, this has been done so many times already.
Speaker 3: It's like the typical move, you know, your first season,
Speaker 3: and this is what she's doing, you know, So either
Speaker 3: she's doing it because she really wants to do it,
Speaker 3: or somebody's behind the scene is kind of like egging
Speaker 3: her on to do it, and it is what it is.
Speaker 3: But I agree she needs a lot more than this
Speaker 3: to keep her on the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the drama between Heather and Katie, it all feels
Speaker 2: so surface and I don't particularly care about either of it,
Speaker 2: but I do care about the scenes for next week
Speaker 2: because they look delicious and it looks like the dramas
Speaker 2: coming in hot. We we hear tam get a little mouthy,
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for that. I'm waiting for ten. And I did.
Speaker 2: Appreciate Tamra just telling all the women, even Shannon, who
Speaker 2: she wasn't really talking to, like hey, I'm going to
Speaker 2: tell Heather now because this feels weird, and like, you know,
Speaker 2: if Tamar's gonna stir it, she's not doing it in
Speaker 2: a way that like behind everybody's back.
Speaker 3: She's like, no, they were all there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And she wouldn't handle it. She didn't make it
Speaker 2: more drama. That was and I don't think she ever
Speaker 2: really made fun of Heather. She like lightly joked about
Speaker 2: the situation, but I was like, you know what, I
Speaker 2: thought she handled that well mm hmm.
Speaker 3: And it kind of vindicated also camera when that was
Speaker 3: brought up, you know, seasons ago, which I was happy
Speaker 3: she got to prove her point because you know, sometimes
Speaker 3: you went to season when you never get to make
Speaker 3: your point and for people to believe you. So I
Speaker 3: was happy that that played out because we see that,
Speaker 3: you know, we see that what Tamara was saying, you know,
Speaker 3: seasons Ago are is actually the truth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's I think it's gonna get good, guys,
Speaker 2: and I think we're gonna start to see the dynamics
Speaker 2: in the friendship shift. So I'm excited. Please keep tuning in,
Speaker 2: send us all your thoughts, questions, concerns, and we'll dig
Speaker 2: into the next episode.