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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera jeedge.

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Speaker 2: I, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in

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Speaker 2: a Pod. But it's myself and.

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Speaker 3: Alexia.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 3: Hi, how are you a podcast with me?

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Speaker 2: You know it's all right.

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Speaker 3: I know I'm not camera. Like I've always said, I

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Speaker 3: have like big shoes to fill, but it's it's a

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Speaker 3: lot of fun. I'm really enjoying watching the show and

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Speaker 3: talking to you about it.

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Speaker 2: I agree, and we I feel like each week it's

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Speaker 2: getting juicier. I feel like last week we had a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a filler episode, and then this week

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Speaker 2: it starts become a good one.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I have.

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Speaker 2: Some theories that I want to debunk a little bit

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Speaker 2: once we get a to that, but before we have

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Speaker 2: some housewife headlines we need to dig into. Okay, this

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Speaker 2: first one, Vicky Gumfilson sued by seventy four year old

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Speaker 2: woman for financial elder abuse. In this in Touch exclusive,

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Speaker 2: it says, according to documents obtained by in Touch, Vicky

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Speaker 2: sixty two, I love how they always put our ages.

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Speaker 3: I hate that, by the way, like I don't actually

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Speaker 3: that's so important, right.

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Speaker 2: But also like I don't need Peloton to put my

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Speaker 2: age either, Like I don't need to know that. I'm

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Speaker 2: like riding my bike and somebody of a certain age

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Speaker 2: is beating me. Like I don't need to know your age,

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Speaker 2: Like your name is enough. I agree, But she was

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Speaker 2: sued by a woman named Diane Field. Also listed as

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Speaker 2: a defendant in the lawsuit is Vicky's company, Codo Insurance

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Speaker 2: and Financial Services. Diane accused Vicky and her partner Alie

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Speaker 2: of financial elder abuse, claiming they had her Interer inter

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Speaker 2: harmful deals. She said Ali convinced her to transfer funds

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Speaker 2: and stocks to an outside firm managed under Ali at

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Speaker 2: Fidelity Investments, had her take out life insurance policy without

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Speaker 2: telling her it cost three hundred thousand dollars a year.

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Speaker 3: That's expensive, it is, that's a lot. That's a lot

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Speaker 3: for life insurance. I mean, I don't even know what

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Speaker 3: the limits are. I think it did say a limit.

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Speaker 3: I think there was a three million dollar policy. So

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Speaker 3: it is very very pricey.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, how do you just get surprised with

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Speaker 2: a three hundred thousand dollar bill. I was annoyed today

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Speaker 2: pay twenty four dollars, so three hundred thousand, and then

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Speaker 2: Diane said.

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Speaker 3: What are you getting for that? Right? Because I mean

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Speaker 3: it's so much money. I don't know if it had

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Speaker 3: like a cash value. And some of these life insurance

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Speaker 3: policies have a cash value, which means that it's like accumulating.

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Speaker 3: The money's there and it's accumulating more money, and you

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Speaker 3: can at some time cash out.

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Speaker 2: But this woman's seventy four years old. When is she

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Speaker 2: going to cashaw?

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Speaker 3: I agree, and I think this is her main concern, right,

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Speaker 3: she wanted this money for her children.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so she said. Diane said it in reliance of

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Speaker 2: Vicky's fraudulent sales taxics and her promises that this anunuity

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Speaker 2: the Aliens two to two indexed and unuity, she said.

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Speaker 2: In December twenty twenty two, she told Vicki and Ali

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Speaker 2: explaining that she felt uninformed by them and that the

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Speaker 2: annuities and life insurance policy they convinced her to open

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Speaker 2: did not seem to be the best investments for her,

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Speaker 2: for maybe longer than she will live or be too

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Speaker 2: old to enjoy. The lawsuit demanded unspecified damages for the

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Speaker 2: defendant's alleged contact. Back in twenty eighteen, Vicki was sued

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Speaker 2: by an eighty two year old woman named Joan Lyle

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Speaker 2: for fraud over life insurance pol she was sold. The

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Speaker 2: suit was dismissed months later. So of course we don't know.

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Speaker 2: We're not lawyers, we don't know what happened here. People

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Speaker 2: like to sue. There could be truth to this, or

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Speaker 2: comes to elder abuse like was Jinshaw was elder abuse

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Speaker 2: as well, right.

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Speaker 3: Of course, and this did make me think of that

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Speaker 3: obviously because it brought me back to what jen was doing,

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Speaker 3: it always makes it more more sensitive, right, And you're

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Speaker 3: more sensitive to these kind of things when you're dealing with,

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Speaker 3: you know, elderly people that are confiding in you. But

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Speaker 3: is Vickie a financial advisor? I mean I think she

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Speaker 2: That's what I was confused about, because like I have, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I have somebody I went to try to get life insurance.

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Speaker 2: Granted I was rejected because of all my skin cancer

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Speaker 2: stuff and I waited too long to get it, But

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Speaker 2: that is a completely different person than I have.

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Speaker 4: For your finance, my finances, Like I have somebody over

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Speaker 4: at you know, whatever it is, Bear Stearns or blah

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Speaker 4: blah blah, forget Morgan and Stanley, whatever company it is

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Speaker 4: that that's now morphed into that, right.

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Speaker 3: I agree same, I feel exactly the same way. So

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Speaker 3: I'm very confused. How you know this woman just really

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Speaker 3: confided and big PI for all of this advice that

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Speaker 3: to advise her properly. I mean, that's what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 3: First of it's a lot of information. I mean, the

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Speaker 3: article was so long and it had so much information

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Speaker 3: you know, we're not in this business, so we don't

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Speaker 3: know how much truth to it there is or isn't.

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Speaker 3: It's allegations for now, I mean, she is being sued.

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Speaker 2: But also I think this goes to show and this

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Speaker 2: I'm not accusing this person just allegedly.

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Speaker 3: I know what you're going to say.

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Speaker 2: This Alli at Fidelity Investments is probably some sort of

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Speaker 2: But that's the problem, especially when you're in the public eye,

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Speaker 2: all the time, to that person, fox over somebody and

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Speaker 2: then your health.

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Speaker 3: You're the one your headline, right, yeah, I know, and

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Speaker 3: the headline is that, you know, it's like the Real Housewives.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's why this is picking up traction because

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Speaker 3: it's just easier to go after someone when they're public,

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Speaker 3: other person that did to her apparently it was discharged

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Speaker 2: I was dismissed, but I don't think back in two

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Speaker 2: I think, I don't know. I think we might need

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean it just came out. Maybe in the

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Speaker 2: I don't think she's going to release anything. I think that,

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Speaker 2: especially when our lawsuits involved, you have to kind of

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Speaker 2: you know what we're reading isn't actually true. I mean,

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Speaker 2: regardless of how I feel about Vicky, you never want

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Speaker 2: to believe the worst in someone. In that regard, I agree.

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Speaker 2: What about this next one? Peacock sets Real Housewives dating

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Speaker 2: show spin off with Luanne de Leceps, Giselle Bryant, Shannon Storms, Thedoor,

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Speaker 2: Ashley Darby Peacock is giving Real Housewife fans something they're

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Speaker 2: sure to love. The streaming network has set a new

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Speaker 2: dating reality series which will gather eligible singles in a

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Speaker 2: quest to win the hearts of four of Bravo's Biggest Bachelor.

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Speaker 2: This actually makes me laugh. And then filming will take

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Speaker 2: place in September and Cabo sam Lucas, where the woman

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Speaker 2: will be offered a diverse dating pool. The show is

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Speaker 2: expected to air sometime next year. The one Okay, My

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Speaker 2: main thought is okay, I'm watching Too Hot to Handle

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Speaker 2: I recap it with Emily Simpson. I watch Love Island,

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Speaker 2: I watch The Bachelor, Like if it's a dating show

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Speaker 2: I want. But when you look at these women we're

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Speaker 3: But I was a little bit confused about the choice

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Speaker 3: So right, she's legally married. I mean, yes, granted they're separated,

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Speaker 3: I just found it like kind of weird. I'm excited

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Speaker 3: Gazelle because I know Gizelle is very private and she's

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Speaker 3: you know, to my Girls trip together, and I did

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Speaker 3: and it's going to be interesting to see her out

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Speaker 3: sure not like she's not going to feel comfortable with him,

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Speaker 3: but maybe we see a ug of Zelle, right, like

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Speaker 2: Also just imagine like first dates are awkward in general,

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Speaker 2: First dates with a complete stranger. But my only other

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Speaker 2: concern is on any other dating show you have complete

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Speaker 2: a sudden, now we have known people, we have men

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Speaker 2: vying to win them over. Like, does this mean all

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Speaker 2: the men are going to be starfuckers?

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Speaker 3: Could be? Right? And how can you invent gate that? Right?

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Speaker 3: We already have that on TV on these shows already, right,

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Speaker 3: Like the guys start dating these women can potentially be

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Speaker 3: that or want that, So it's going to be interesting.

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Speaker 3: Like it didn't say anything about their bachelor so I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's why she must have gone on Carlos

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Speaker 3: Okay, congratulations exactly right. And then as far as like

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Speaker 2: all of these things happen. But all of this happening

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Speaker 3: No, this is gonna make it harder. I agree. I mean,

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Speaker 3: on our show, Like the girls love to pee anywhere

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00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 3: because the girl might.

434
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 2: Didn't you guys peet a polo field? Am I getting?

435
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 3: I feel like we peet everywhere, honestly, especially like Marisol,

436
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 3: Like she always has to pee. You know. Obviously they

437
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 3: try to go for the bathroom, but if there's no bathroom,

438
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 3: they have no shame in just putting down their pants

439
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 3: and peeing. But I did, like, I just need to

440
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 3: wipe myself, so like if there's no paper, like, there's

441
00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 3: no way I'm doing it. Yeah.

442
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 2: I know I'm not a drip dry kind of gal,

443
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: but I did understand having to make if you've never

444
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: met somebody's husband or their kids and you have to

445
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: make small talk within seconds to go pee, I probably

446
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: would rather pee in a bush joo.

447
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I'd rather go in and say excuse me,

448
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 3: But like I have to be so you know, I'll

449
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 3: stay hello and goodbye at the same time. But I

450
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 3: need to be. But I would have gone inside. But

451
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 3: it's a funny moment. It was funny.

452
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 2: It was funny. Do you think it was done for

453
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: TV or do you think it was just.

454
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 3: I think she can do that. No, I think that

455
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 3: Emily would do something like that. I think she's so

456
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 3: much fun I'm really enjoying her on the show, and

457
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: I'm enjoying Gina a lot.

458
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, mm hmm. She did some funny things.

459
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: Well.

460
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: Then Katie's friend said that Heather this storyline honestly is

461
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: punishable one the fact that me and Cynthia were both

462
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: brought up in regards to the story. I'm like, I

463
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: mentioned it on the podcast years ago, like no one

464
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: cares anymore, no one gives two shits.

465
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 3: Well they do, because they're still bringing it up.

466
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, Okay. So Katie's friend said that Heather

467
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: hired paparazzi at Disneyland and she has a screenshot.

468
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 3: Tamra said, that's very housewipey, right, Seddie.

469
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm just trying to start with that. Yeah,

470
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 2: but if I was going to show the screenshot, it

471
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 2: should not because this is where I'm having issue with

472
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 2: all of it. And I know we're skipping to the

473
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: end of the episode, but I feel like we just

474
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: cover all of this right now. Katie saying, I had

475
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: no idea there was drama about There was no idea.

476
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 2: I had no idea there was drama involving this paparazzi thing,

477
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: and my friend reached out to me and blah blah blah,

478
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: and now I just feel like she's a liar. That's

479
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: actually not what we saw. We saw a text that said,

480
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: can you confirm something along the lines of can you

481
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 2: confirm that Heather called the paparazzi on herself at Disney

482
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 2: And the response was yes, yes, that that is very different.

483
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 2: That is somebody that's doing the same thing that she's

484
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: accusing Heather for.

485
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: She's accusing that head and professional. Heather made that point.

486
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it would have been different if we saw

487
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: the text that Heather sent saying to that pop razzi, right,

488
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: but like Heather just asking, I mean I could text

489
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: that to my freaking mom right now and she could

490
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 2: respond back yes, and we could show the text.

491
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: Of course. Well, I mean I think first of all,

492
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: it proves that so that's so new season, first season

493
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 3: housewifely that you have to come in, you know, especially

494
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: to get into the group and to kind of like

495
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: cop your moment and make a moment where you have

496
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 3: to bring up something like that and you know, go

497
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 3: against like the star, which is Heather. I mean, they're

498
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 3: all stars. Let's you know that. I see them as

499
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 3: all of them as stars. But you know Heather, which

500
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 3: is kind of like the one that they're afraid of

501
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: that you know, get some sort of different like respect

502
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: or you know, she's always like had like that role,

503
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's like I felt that.

504
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: That's how I feel, you know that they've always So

505
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: she's going like the underdog is going like after Heather

506
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: and even though the rest of the girls are like,

507
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 3: are you sure you want to do that? Like, oh

508
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: my god, we're so scared for you. So she came in,

509
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 3: you know, as as the rookie, as a new one

510
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 3: already like trying to fight Heather.

511
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 2: But if you're going to go for somebody, you got

512
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: to go for them for something good. Because the two

513
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: things of like calling paparazzi and yourself. Yeah, I laughed

514
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: at it on the podcast with Taraman said pop parazzi

515
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: really aren't at Disney searching people out, but I will.

516
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: Everybody knows that. Even Kim Kardashian and Jaylo called the

517
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: paparazzi like yeah, like I'm waiting outside of Disneyland waiting

518
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: for Heather and Terry. They're not here. We care.

519
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: But also the whole thing about Heather accidentally tagging her

520
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: in a photo on her birthday and like, can you believe?

521
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: But who cares?

522
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 3: Who cares? Well, you know, I think that they need

523
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: to like dig a little deeper because it's like a

524
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: lot you know. I feel like to Heather obviously because

525
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 3: she has been part of the show for so many years.

526
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 3: When you have a new person that's coming into the group,

527
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: you're gonna do your homework. Yeah, you can do some digging,

528
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: and you know, you want to have information about this person.

529
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 3: Everybody does that. I'm not even not offended. Yeah I'm

530
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: not on the show.

531
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: And I still went on Katie's Instagram and looked.

532
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 3: Right, but I wish that well, Heather did say that,

533
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: she said that she's girled like through the instagram her

534
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: with Emily, I think, and so she did admit to that,

535
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: but it's kind of like, you know, you should have

536
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 3: told her. Yeah, you know what, Katie, we've been you know,

537
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: this friends group, have been friends for X amount of

538
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: years and you were coming you into the group, and

539
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: I had to do a little bit of homework. I mean,

540
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: I wanted to get more information about you, and that's

541
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 3: what it is. And by the way, you were doing

542
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 3: the same thing. You know, Katie was doing the same thing.

543
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: And then I didn't appreciate that our girl, Cynthia got Branda,

544
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: and Cynthia is one of my good friends. I love

545
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: cynthiaa and Cynthia really isn't she.

546
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 3: Should have been on the dating game.

547
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I would have been one. Yeah, maybe

548
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 2: there's maybe more people and announce like why is there

549
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: only four girls? Like you know what, I'm gonna I'm

550
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: gonna text Cynthia when we get off. But I don't

551
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: think that. Cynthia probably went to Katie and was like, oh,

552
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: by the way, all Heather could talk to me about

553
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,479
Speaker 2: was you. I think Heather probably, like all of us,

554
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: when you're about to meet a new housewife, say oh

555
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: I saw your friends with this person, give me the juice.

556
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: Right right, being detective, like they all do that, right.

557
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 3: But I think for sure, like Katie wanted to have

558
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 3: her moment like going against Heather, like saying, you know what,

559
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 3: like I'm new, but like I don't care. You know,

560
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call you out and whatever. I need to

561
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: call you out so like you can respect me and

562
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: and you know, kind of like to set the grounds.

563
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, then Gina is upset that Katie told the

564
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: women about Heather, and Emily says, Heather is going to

565
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: fucking destroy her. You see, but I do think can.

566
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: We talk about it? I love how Gina said. I'd

567
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: love this that Gina said this. So when she has

568
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: Katie come over, she's like, are you going to talk

569
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: to Heather about it? Because if not, I'm going to

570
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: tell Hewther. Yeah, but she gave her that opportunity. I

571
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 3: think that that was a great movie. You know, That's

572
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: something that I would do. And I thought that was

573
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 3: really incredible. I mean, that's what real friends do.

574
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: And we ultimately find out that Katie pusses out and

575
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: so then Tam has to step in and do her work.

576
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: But before we even get to that, we're still at

577
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: the bar. We're at the Coyote ugly time, and I

578
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: just all I could think about is the next time

579
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: my drink comes out of the soda gun, I'm going

580
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: to re think about this scene because I'm going to

581
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: think about my choices, what beverage I've ordered, And I

582
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: also want to think about the man sitting at the

583
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: bar who's living his best life in his plaid flannel

584
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: just like.

585
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: Thating so good, that was fun. I would have wanted

586
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: to be there. I've never done something like that, so

587
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: I thought that was cool. And I'm all, I love

588
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: a creoty moment, So.

589
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't hate any of that moment.

590
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: I didn't love, and I would tell Emily to her

591
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: face I didn't love when we got the flashback of

592
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: Emily making the comment to Jen that she looked rich

593
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: wearing her coat.

594
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: Oh that was mean.

595
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I thought it was a little like we'd already.

596
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: Jin's taking me accountability for not having money. It's very

597
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: clear that anything she does do her boyfriend's paying.

598
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: For, right, But isn't that the case for like a

599
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: lot of women, you know what I mean. It's like

600
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: the only thing is that Jen's not legally married to Ryan.

601
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: But you know, when you're in a relationship, whether it's

602
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: your boyfriend or your husband, you know, the men usually

603
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: pay for the trips or by you gifts or you know,

604
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: take care of the expenses.

605
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: I mean, do I need it with that? Are you

606
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: saying I need to marry somebody else? Because why is

607
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: that not happening for me?

608
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 3: Like?

609
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: Sometimes this morning I texted Tamra because we have one

610
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: million things to do today. And I said, why didn't

611
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: I just wake up and be like doctor Nicole, Like,

612
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: why is it just not endless finance? Like I just

613
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: want to have all the things.

614
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: Well, you don't know, I mean, yeah, but you know,

615
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 3: you never really know everybody's real life behind closed doors.

616
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: You know. That's all I can tell you. Not everything

617
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: you know that glitters this gold, you know. And I'm

618
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: not speaking for her. I'm just saying I can speak

619
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: for like a lot of women you know that you know,

620
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 3: they may have like this, you know, beautiful amazing life

621
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: financially or you know, have a certain kind of like

622
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: life that a lot of women aspire to, but sometimes

623
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: there's a big price side to pay for that.

624
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean personally, I like to I.

625
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: Personally rather work, to tell you the truth. I mean,

626
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: it's great if you're like married to you know, a

627
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: wonderful man that supports everything you do, and you can

628
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: like keep your money and you can just pay for everything.

629
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: And you know, we can work because it makes us

630
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: feel good. And you know, we love our careers, we

631
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: love what we do. It makes us feel good about us.

632
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: And yes, you can contribute to the home or to

633
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: vacations or whatever it may be. But it's not like necessary.

634
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm sure if your household needs it

635
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: and you make good income, like I don't have a

636
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: problem with that with contributing, Yeah, yeah, but I mean,

637
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: Jen is in the situation she's in now, and of course,

638
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: no matter what she does, whether it's glam or going

639
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: on a trip or driving whatever car, other girls are

640
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: going to come after her and say, you know, why

641
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: are you doing this, Like you don't have the money

642
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: to do this, And I think that's like really mean,

643
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: but also and literally necessary.

644
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 2: Clearly she doesn't have the money to do it. She's

645
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: I think this is also something that happens to so

646
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: many women her entire life. She has had somebody else

647
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: manage her money, manage her life, manage her financials. She's

648
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: unable to do it on her own, and now she's

649
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: in a situation.

650
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: She says she doesn't feel like up to part with

651
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 3: the rest of the ladies, Like she doesn't feel good

652
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: about herself. She doesn't think she's good enough, you know,

653
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 3: for this group of women, because you know, she doesn't

654
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: feel good about herself because her life right now is

655
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: like falling apart, but then other girls are like, but

656
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: you're not doing anything about it, right, Like that's like

657
00:32:59,320 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: their defense.

658
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: But I would be pissed if like you loaned me

659
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: your jacket and then you walked up to me like

660
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: as we're leaving and you were like, oh my gosh,

661
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: I didn't recognize you, teddy because you looked rich because

662
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: you're wearing my clothes. I'd be like, go fuck yourself,

663
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: me too, Like why yeah, like why wouldn't she find

664
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: herself in that moment? Like she didn't find she just

665
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: kind of was like, yeah, I am broke. Ha ha.

666
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: I was like, no, that's where you step in and

667
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: be like fuck you.

668
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 3: Well, because you have that personality, so do I. But

669
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: I think she's just kind of just like just wanted

670
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: to go away, and she's just like embarrassed and she's

671
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: just rather, you know, puke fun of herself and that's

672
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: what she's doing. Okay, Yeah I'm broke, who cares?

673
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: But no, I think they would stop if she would

674
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: actually grow some cojones and be like, yeah, you know

675
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: what it is, what it fucking is. I am broke,

676
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: I've made poor financial decisions. But you either like me

677
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: as I am and with my shit show relationship or

678
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: you don't but don't fucking love me your coat and

679
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: then make fun of me.

680
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think that was cool.

681
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: But then Vicky goes to Shannon's house. Vicky says Tamama

682
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: didn't have the balls to call and say she was

683
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: dropping out of the Trace and Meta show. Vicky says,

684
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: Tamara has been a girl in her veins and a

685
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: black heart. That's a fucking that's a big statement. Then

686
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 2: Shannon says this was an opportunity for her to make

687
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: additional income as a single mother of three girls in college,

688
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: and tam are dropping out devastation. I'm going to clear

689
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: a couple things up that I know for certain, because.

690
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: Yes, please do that, because I had some questions about that.

691
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: Okay, So first and foremost, Vicky and Shannon can spend

692
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: what you know, spend whatever narrative they want. But I

693
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: know for a fact that Tama was very upfront with

694
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: the women and Paris the rep or the agent or

695
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: whatever he is about how she was very busy with

696
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 2: her podcast businesses, home and Big Bear her family to

697
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: continue the Trace Amiga's tour. She also booked traders and

698
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: was going away on that as more things were being booked,

699
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 2: then she told them multiple times. And then when Paris,

700
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: who again signed without Tamor's consent while she was in Scotland,

701
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 2: asked Tammar to do more shows, she said no. Also,

702
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: Shannon's financial should not be Tamor's issue. That to me,

703
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: that's a weird deflection. Like I love you, I think

704
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: you're great. You know, we we do a good podcast together.

705
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: But like, at the end of the day, your financials

706
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: are not my problem and mine are not yours. Like

707
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: I'm having as a friend.

708
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: When you can't make your decisions, you know, based on

709
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: my finance. It's like you have to look out for

710
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 3: whatever's good for you.

711
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: When you're filming a show, when you have like Tamar

712
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: and I podcast multiple times a week. We have so

713
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 2: like we are both spread very thin and I don't

714
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: even film a TV show, so like I can only

715
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: imagine what she's going through. But she I heard and

716
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: I saw multiple times where she was like, this is

717
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: too much for me. I can't do this. I also

718
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 2: don't you know, like and I think they also, I

719
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: mean they hired Paris while she was in Scotland, so

720
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: she had to say no.

721
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: To him.

722
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: It wasn't like she term was not somebody to be

723
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: afraid to tell somebody.

724
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, that didn't seem true to me. You know,

725
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: I just didn't believe that, you know, after so many

726
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: years of friendship and you know, doing the tour and

727
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: the whole thing, that she would just like step away

728
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 3: and not have the conversation with him or let anybody know.

729
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: But also, it wasn't so many years. It was like

730
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: four shows. That's what we have to do. Four Yes,

731
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: our podcast has been going on for years. Their show

732
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: like they had four or five shows. But also we

733
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: need to make one additional point. Paris the rep he

734
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: actually no longer works with Vickey and Shannon m So, okay,

735
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: you rest your case. Yeah, so you know what I'm not.

736
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not always gonna be biased, but in

737
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 2: this instance, I watched it play out, and I don't

738
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: like when I see those two coming. I mean, Tamar

739
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: did four shows and a span of five months with them.

740
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: Tam and I do probably five shows in the course

741
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: of a week.

742
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: Right, That's what I'm saying. It was her decision of

743
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: financial and besides out, like you said, she was in

744
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 3: Traders too. It was too much for her and as.

745
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: Your proba, can't do this from our living room, right right,

746
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: you know.

747
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: And besides that she has a choice. I mean, you know,

748
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: I get it to Shannon and Vickie me tamar but

749
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: you know, Tamarra did it what she can do it

750
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: and enjoyed it, and it was just time for her

751
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 3: to you know, continue with with her with her things.

752
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 3: And it wasn't that.

753
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: But then they showed Shannon got a letter from John's

754
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: lawyer saying she owes him seventy five thousand. Shannon gets emotional,

755
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: saying even going to court will cost more than seventy

756
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: five thousand. Then they showed Jen and Ryan packing for Vegas.

757
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: Jen wonders if you can't post in Vegas because everyone

758
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: will be judging why her broke asses in Vegas. She

759
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: starts to get emotional. Ryan says, bank accounts come and go,

760
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: but being rich in your soul is what matters. Jen

761
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: gets emotional, sayings she is hyper sensitive because she doesn't

762
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: feel equal to the women. All I know is Jen

763
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 2: has never met a home goods that she hasn't needed

764
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: to buy a mug from. Like I have a real

765
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: issue with sayings on things like I used to give

766
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: Marisol ship when she would like have the bedazzled cups,

767
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: and it would say things like I don't like words

768
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 2: on things. I really don't, okay, And what does she have?

769
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: What does Jenna? Oh my god, I mean between she

770
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 3: did have something.

771
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: Yes, I can't even remember what it was. It was

772
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: like something having to do with what was going on

773
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: is said on the mug and it's and we called it.

774
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: Oh it said be fucking nice. Okay, mug.

775
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: So the mugs are like sublip or be fi nice.

776
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: There's sb liberal messages to what you're trying to say.

777
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 3: I rather just say it with my mouth. Yeah.

778
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't hate this scene, but I also like,

779
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: I don't know that I would really care if people

780
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: thought I was broke or not broke and going to

781
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: Vegas like do.

782
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: We do you? Do you?

783
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: Of course no.

784
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 3: I didn't enjoy it either, And the fact that she

785
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 3: made it seem like, oh, I'm worried about if we post.

786
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: You know, it's like who cares? Like, you know, do

787
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 3: you and go on your trip and you know you

788
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 3: don't have to give people explanations And by the way,

789
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 3: everybody knows that you are living with Ryan and he's

790
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: you know, taking care of everything. And what's wrong about

791
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: going on a trip with your friends, I mean with

792
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: your with Ryan, like your friends should be happy for you.

793
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: You know, she's going through a lot of shit, so

794
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 3: I never go to Vegas and have fun.

795
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: I think that might be the problem.

796
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: We're not.

797
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: We're seeing like I feel like a shell of gin.

798
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: And I don't know if this is because of Ryan

799
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: or what the situation is, but I haven't felt a

800
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: real connection with her in any of the women. So

801
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: we're just seeing her like you know, hitting the balls away.

802
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: But I mean, I think because then we get like

803
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: top editing where it's like Gina says Jen will spend

804
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: money on gleam for the golf event, and then they

805
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: show her in this glam chair like it's it's all

806
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: of it, But we're not. I haven't yet seen Jen

807
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: connecting with the other women. Really. It's very.

808
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 3: Protective. She's being protected of herself and you know she

809
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: might be scared, you know when you're in a like

810
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: situation like that too, and the girls aren't really being

811
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 3: so nice to her and kind of like giving her

812
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 3: that moment where she can be vulnerable. She's just kind

813
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: of like trying to avoid that.

814
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: But then we get to this golfing event and I

815
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 2: need to know, could Katie have really put her foot

816
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: in her mouth or did she know that hosting a

817
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 2: drinking and event police.

818
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 3: And Shannon was right next to her. That was like

819
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 3: the funny part. Shanna kind of like laughed and continued, like,

820
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: you know, doing her her nail.

821
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: I don't think.

822
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 3: I don't think.

823
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: I don't think she hadn't laughed. I think she like

824
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: died inside.

825
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: She was like no, but she was laughing. I looked

826
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: and she was like laughing. Yeah. And Heather of course

827
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 3: called it out. But you know, Shanna did laugh about it.

828
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: But I thought that was like poetaste. I mean, she

829
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: didn't make it funny and whatever. But you know, she

830
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 3: was being a house like listen, these new houseworks come

831
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 3: in and they know all the things they have to do.

832
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: They come in, they've got their friend, they've got their script.

833
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: They're like they're going for it, like they're like, I'm

834
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: gonna get it where I can get it. And so

835
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 2: that it may have been funny if it wasn't, because.

836
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: It was still so painful for Shannon. I wouldn't have

837
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: said that but I.

838
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: Mean we probably would have said it, but there's a

839
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: way to say things with shade, and there's a way

840
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: to say things and then pretend that you don't realize

841
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: you're saying it. That bugs me. If you're going to

842
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: be an asshole, own that you're a fucking asshole, right

843
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: like when you're like yeah.

844
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, but usually assholes don't own that they're assholes.

845
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I love to own that I'm an asshole. I'm

846
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: the biggest asshole there is. I can be lovely, but

847
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: I'm an asshole. But then Katie goes to Gina's house,

848
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: we hear more about the paparazzi thing. But what I

849
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: did get confused about was now we're talking about Gina

850
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: and Travis. Oh, yeah, she's worried because they're not to get.

851
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: You made this, you did this, you did this, You

852
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: created the situation, and she made the choice. Well do

853
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 3: you think she's taking it back? I mean, she feels

854
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: lonely and I understand that, but they obviously still have

855
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: a relationship. When her kids were at Travis's house, so

856
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: I did like that. And she says he lives like

857
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: across the street or across the corner, like very close by,

858
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: so I'm.

859
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: Sure they both have those same you know, they look

860
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: like they're in a development where every you know, you

861
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 2: just rent those places. He probably rented one nearby so

862
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: their kids can go to and from. But I thought

863
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 2: the whole reason was that the kids needed separation from

864
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 2: the other kids, So then why are you sending them

865
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: over there? Oh?

866
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't think it was that Benny did separation.

867
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 3: My understanding was that the house was in like big

868
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 3: enough that you know, everybody was on top of each other,

869
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 3: so you know, they needed more space, and they really

870
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: didn't have you know, the money right now. But no,

871
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: I mean I think the kids.

872
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: Am I not smart? Help me? If you're going to

873
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: rent two places in the same budget area, Kate, you

874
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 2: put those two moneies together and then get a slightly

875
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: bigger place that you can rent.

876
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think there's more to that. We always

877
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 3: said that, you know what, we've been on the podcast before.

878
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 3: We've said that we think that there's more issues there.

879
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: You know, it's not only that, you know, they needed

880
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 3: a bigger place and they couldn't afford it.

881
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: But Gina owned her place. Gina owned her place. I

882
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: didn't realize that Gina bought her place. I do think

883
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: it's very different. They wanted to buy something, for sure, Yeah,

884
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: they wanted to buy something. And if she solely owns

885
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: her place and they were feeling like on top of

886
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: each other, then she's like, you got to figure it

887
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: out until you can step up and help us figure

888
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: this out. But then we get to Katie's golf event.

889
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: Katie's as the winner gets protest sunglasses. I gotta say

890
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: I was expecting Katie to be a better golfer.

891
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: I think we all were. I think everybody's going to

892
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 3: be surprised. Besides that, you would think she would also

893
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 3: golf with her husband, Like that's a fun activity to do,

894
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: like as a couple. Like if my husband was a golfer,

895
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: I would totally try to like take lessons and be better,

896
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: and that's something you know you can do as a couple.

897
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: I would think that that's fun.

898
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I actually I would hate to golf.

899
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: I'm very grateful one it's not a golfer, but I

900
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: love to play pickleball. But I also probably wouldn't have

901
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: been so attracted. I couldn't take it to somebody who

902
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 2: worked in golf like it's just not my it's not

903
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: my thing, but she said she was. She was like,

904
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: when I saw him, I couldn't even take it. Yeah,

905
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: so hot.

906
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: But how do you feel like about him? Like that

907
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: seemed that they had together on the dinner table that

908
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 3: she's like, you know, talking her head off about everybody.

909
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: He seemed you know, well. I mean it's the first

910
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 3: time on camera, so it's like part from him as

911
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: well too, so kind of like the men don't know

912
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: what to say, they don't know how to act. But

913
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: I feel like he looked uncomfortable between you and I.

914
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: I feel like he looks uncomfortable.

915
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think he's just like a nice,

916
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: normal guy that's going with the flow. His wife wants

917
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 2: to be on this television show all of a sudden,

918
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: and he's like, all right, i'll show up. I'll do

919
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: what you want to do. I don't think he's upset

920
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: that he's on, but he's also like, how much do

921
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 2: you really want me to get involved?

922
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 3: Right?

923
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: Like please?

924
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: I got that feeling for him too.

925
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: Then Tarama tells Heather that Katie said she called the paparazzi.

926
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 2: Heather asked for proof because she's never done that. Heather

927
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: tells Katie she knows she's been talking about her in line.

928
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: Katie says she has a screenshot of the text, and

929
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: Heather swears on her kit. I really don't like when

930
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: people swear in their kids life. I know.

931
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: I don't think any of us liked it, or even

932
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: the girls that were there, they were like, what are

933
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: you doing? I never do that? And if I have

934
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: to do it, it's like, you're like, and if I.

935
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: Have to do it, You're like, and if I have

936
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: to do it, I'm lying because I really no, No.

937
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd never like to do that. I agree,

938
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 3: but you know it is but with her in her case,

939
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: you can tell she's lying. I mean, because we all

940
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 3: know that, we all know that you have to reach

941
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 3: out to the paparazzi. They're not going to be there

942
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: waiting for you.

943
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, when you walk outside of Craigs, you

944
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: don't have to reach out to the paparazzi.

945
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: No, there's certain places right which Tamra brings up that

946
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 3: apparently Heather likes that, you know, where everybody's different, Like

947
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: Tamara doesn't like it. I don't like it, but you're right.

948
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: I Craigs is there sometimes at mass Jo's in La

949
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: There's the other places, Giorgio Baldi, There's a lot of

950
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 3: places in La where you have the proparazzis waiting for

951
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: you outside, but not Disneyland but.

952
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 2: Not and but also it's at this point I wish

953
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 2: Heather would have just been like, yeah, my friend, you

954
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: know someone that works for me, probably let them know

955
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: was there.

956
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 3: It is what it is.

957
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: There were rumors about my marriage at the time, and

958
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: then I wanted to clear them up. Like that's really

959
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: all she needed to say, because it was during that

960
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: same time that we were hearing rumors correct. Things were

961
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: not great between Heather and Terry, and then all of

962
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: a sudden we saw all these pictures of them everywhere.

963
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 3: Just say like, I feel like a lot of the

964
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: ladies have a problem, just saying it like you see

965
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: it that way. I see it that way too, because

966
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: we're like authentic and real. But a lot of people,

967
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 3: and a lot of these girls on the show will

968
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: never be that person. You know, they'll never admit it

969
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 3: and they'll never say hey, you know, yeah, you know this,

970
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: I was going through this in my life.

971
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: You know.

972
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 3: We thought it would be a good idea to get

973
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: a nice picture of us showing that we're together. It's

974
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 3: important whatever, like you sink, But it's never gonna happen.

975
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 3: Do you think she's gonna admit to it? Do you

976
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: think ever? Do you think the rest of the season

977
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 3: she's gonna have But no, I got MoMA or in

978
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 3: their reunion and she's gonna admit to it.

979
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: No.

980
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: Some of these women stick to the story and to

981
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 3: their life and they're not gonna move on and say,

982
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: you know, ever say the truth.

983
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: And I truthfully think that if Katie doesn't move on

984
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: and find something else to talk about, this might be

985
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: our only season that we see because it's not enough.

986
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: It's not enough, not enough.

987
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 3: You know, this has been done so many times already.

988
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 3: It's like the typical move, you know, your first season,

989
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: and this is what she's doing, you know, So either

990
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: she's doing it because she really wants to do it,

991
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 3: or somebody's behind the scene is kind of like egging

992
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 3: her on to do it, and it is what it is.

993
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 3: But I agree she needs a lot more than this

994
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 3: to keep her on the show.

995
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the drama between Heather and Katie, it all feels

996
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: so surface and I don't particularly care about either of it,

997
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: but I do care about the scenes for next week

998
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: because they look delicious and it looks like the dramas

999
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 2: coming in hot. We we hear tam get a little mouthy,

1000
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: so good.

1001
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for that. I'm waiting for ten. And I did.

1002
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: Appreciate Tamra just telling all the women, even Shannon, who

1003
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: she wasn't really talking to, like hey, I'm going to

1004
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: tell Heather now because this feels weird, and like, you know,

1005
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: if Tamar's gonna stir it, she's not doing it in

1006
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: a way that like behind everybody's back.

1007
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 3: She's like, no, they were all there.

1008
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And she wouldn't handle it. She didn't make it

1009
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 2: more drama. That was and I don't think she ever

1010
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: really made fun of Heather. She like lightly joked about

1011
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: the situation, but I was like, you know what, I

1012
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: thought she handled that well mm hmm.

1013
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: And it kind of vindicated also camera when that was

1014
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 3: brought up, you know, seasons ago, which I was happy

1015
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 3: she got to prove her point because you know, sometimes

1016
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 3: you went to season when you never get to make

1017
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 3: your point and for people to believe you. So I

1018
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: was happy that that played out because we see that,

1019
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 3: you know, we see that what Tamara was saying, you know,

1020
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 3: seasons Ago are is actually the truth.

1021
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's I think it's gonna get good, guys,

1022
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: and I think we're gonna start to see the dynamics

1023
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 2: in the friendship shift. So I'm excited. Please keep tuning in,

1024
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: send us all your thoughts, questions, concerns, and we'll dig

1025
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: into the next episode.