WEBVTT - Part 1: The Witness

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations to the winners of the two thousand fifteen Goldman Prize.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the biggest prize and environmental activists can get, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is the awards ceremony. Thousands of people are packed

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<v Speaker 1>into San Francisco's Grand Opera House, and in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the front row, tonight's big winner is waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>her name to be called. Berta Casarengs from Honduras. It's April,

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<v Speaker 1>and Berta Cassras is being honored for her fight against

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<v Speaker 1>a proposed hydro electric dam in western Honduras. Foreign investors,

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<v Speaker 1>the Honduran government, and some of the wealthiest business leaders

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<v Speaker 1>in the country have backed the project. Barta has worked

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<v Speaker 1>with a native community known as the Linka to oppose it.

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<v Speaker 1>They've filed legal complaints arguing the damn will destroy aid

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<v Speaker 1>their way of life. They've stacked logs and stones on roads,

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<v Speaker 1>blocking construction equipment from reaching the work site, and Berta

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<v Speaker 1>has been credited with driving the world's largest hydro electric contractor,

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<v Speaker 1>China's Sino Hydro Corporation, to pull out of the project.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a grizzly battle. Protesters and security guards have clashed.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of people have been killed. A few more

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<v Speaker 1>have been wounded and scarred. Bart To herself says she's

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<v Speaker 1>been constantly harassed. Threatening text messages have popped up on

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<v Speaker 1>her phone. Strangers have followed her, mysterious vehicles have tried

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<v Speaker 1>to drive her off the road. But on this night,

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<v Speaker 1>as she walks onto the opera house stage, none of

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to rattle her. She unfolds her speech at

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<v Speaker 1>the podium and adjust the mic when I'm familiar on

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<v Speaker 1>her closest friends have never seen her like this. The

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<v Speaker 1>bear To, they know, wears jeans and T shirts. Tonight

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<v Speaker 1>she's wearing a sparkling, pale rose gown, but her smiles

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<v Speaker 1>the same. And that smile is something her friends and

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<v Speaker 1>colleagues have always talked about, how the smile has a

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<v Speaker 1>way of making people feel comfortable, and how as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as that happens, there to switch his things up tries

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<v Speaker 1>to make those same people feel a little uncomfortable. Agitation, disruption, provocation,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what she's going for, despertemos temple. It's a call

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<v Speaker 1>to action, she says. The world needs to wake up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's running out of time, she says. Greed, racism, and

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<v Speaker 1>old patriarchal systems are destroying us. Racis theatre art has

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<v Speaker 1>been delivering that message in different ways for decades. As

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, she tag along with her mom to protests.

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<v Speaker 1>She co founded her own human rights organization when she

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<v Speaker 1>was just twenty two. Now, at forty four years old,

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<v Speaker 1>she's reached the pinnacle of her career, the request Premio

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<v Speaker 1>al Puelo linca Ario Lenco alcop. She closes the speech

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<v Speaker 1>by dedicating the award to all the rebels out there,

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<v Speaker 1>to her mother, to the Linka indigenous community, and lastly

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<v Speaker 1>to all the martyrs who have lost their lives defending

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<v Speaker 1>natural resources. In a lot of stories, this would be

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<v Speaker 1>the end a grassroot environmental activists achieves international acclaim after

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<v Speaker 1>years of struggling for her cause. But this isn't one

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<v Speaker 1>of those stories. Tonight's award puts a spotlight on Barton.

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<v Speaker 1>The anger and resentment she's inspired over the years, intensified

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<v Speaker 1>under its glare. Barton will go back to Honduras after this.

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<v Speaker 1>She'll continue to speak out against the dawn, but in

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<v Speaker 1>less than a year she'll be silenced. A prominent environmental

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<v Speaker 1>rights activists was shot dead in Honduras on Thursday. She

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<v Speaker 1>was killed like well the one hundred other activists. It's

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and ten and what's become the deadliest country

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<v Speaker 1>in the world for environmental defenders. My name is Monte Real,

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<v Speaker 1>an investigative journalist for Bloomberg Green. This is Blood River.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the story of a murder, a murder her in

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<v Speaker 1>a place where murderers thrive. We're about of all killings

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<v Speaker 1>are left unsolved and unpunished, where environmental activists have become

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<v Speaker 1>irresistible targets. The homicide investigation was full of surprises from

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<v Speaker 1>day one. Now, more than four years on, it keeps

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<v Speaker 1>revealing new twists. We think it's quite possible that there's

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<v Speaker 1>more to this crime then has been exposed so far.

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<v Speaker 1>I always felt like the government wouldn't dare to touch her.

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<v Speaker 1>I always felt that she would be threatened and she

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<v Speaker 1>would be famed, and they try and sender to prison.

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<v Speaker 1>But I never actually thought that the government would dare

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<v Speaker 1>kill her. We'll dive into those accusations, will follow strands

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<v Speaker 1>of evidence on a zig zagging path that will lead

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<v Speaker 1>towards some of the most powerful institutions in Honduras. Before long,

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<v Speaker 1>foreign governments and international investors will have to confront the

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<v Speaker 1>same question, who in the end is really responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>the death of Bear to Cassarus, And as more people

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<v Speaker 1>get drawn into that mystery, more blood will be shed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a good situation when people can literally get

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<v Speaker 1>away with murder. Convicting people previously thought to be untouchable

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<v Speaker 1>of serious crimes and having them pay the consequences can

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<v Speaker 1>send a very very important message. This is a test case. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so important. This. I'm walking up to the

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<v Speaker 1>house where Berta was killed. It's early, almost four years

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<v Speaker 1>after her murder. She had bought this place with some

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<v Speaker 1>of the one and seventy dollars she was awarded for

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<v Speaker 1>winning the Goldman Prize. At the time of her murder,

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<v Speaker 1>she hadn't fully moved in yet, She was only staying

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<v Speaker 1>here a couple of days a week. The subdivision sits

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<v Speaker 1>at the far south end of the city of La Speranza.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a new development, flat, treeless, with plenty of lots

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<v Speaker 1>that remain empty. Her house is small and simple, a

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<v Speaker 1>green stucco exterior, white trim red metal roof. A six

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<v Speaker 1>ft high chain link fence surrounds it. From the front door,

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<v Speaker 1>you look across a dirt road and over a Aaron Fields.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a subdivision that's very isolated and abandoned, with very

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<v Speaker 1>few houses. That was Gustavo Castro's first impression of the place.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an environmental activist from Mexico. Barta invited him to

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<v Speaker 1>Las Baranza in March to speak at a conference she organized.

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<v Speaker 1>She told me, no, don't worry because anyway, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>sleep here all the time. It's not like it's my

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<v Speaker 1>permanent fixed address lexio Ica Tempo. That didn't put him

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<v Speaker 1>at ease, especially when Berta started telling him how nasty

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<v Speaker 1>her fight against the Awazarka Damn Project had gotten at

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<v Speaker 1>one protest. Security guards for the Damn shot and killed

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<v Speaker 1>a demonstrator. They claimed self defense. Bear To herself had

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<v Speaker 1>recently been getting threats, cryptic messages saying she should watch

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<v Speaker 1>her back, that sort of thing. She filed a complaint

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<v Speaker 1>to the Organization of American States. It's sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>the United Nations for the Americans. That organization declared that

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<v Speaker 1>the Honduran government had a responsibility to provide security for

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<v Speaker 1>bart To. She chatted a lot about the attention she

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<v Speaker 1>was getting the threats, about the complaint she had filed

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<v Speaker 1>and how about how sometimes the police officers that were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be protectively weren't protecting. During that conference in

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<v Speaker 1>La Esperanza, Gustavo had planned to stay at the house

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<v Speaker 1>of another activist, one who lived in the center of

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<v Speaker 1>the city, but when he saw Barta's place and how

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerable she seemed there, his plans changed. Barta said he'd

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<v Speaker 1>be well come to stay with her, so Gustavo lugged

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<v Speaker 1>his suitcase into the house and settled into the spare bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>The next evening, they grabbed dinner in a restaurant in town.

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<v Speaker 1>It was about ten o'clock when bear To drove them

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<v Speaker 1>back to the house. She passed a little security booth

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the subdivision. A guard watched them pull

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<v Speaker 1>up an older man in his seventies. Maybe he raised

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<v Speaker 1>the crossbar that blocked the entrance road. The man nodded

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<v Speaker 1>at Barta as she passed. After that, upon arriving at

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<v Speaker 1>the house, we grabbed chairs and sat out on the

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<v Speaker 1>front porch to talk. I had a drink and smoked

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<v Speaker 1>a cigarette, and we stayed out there talking until maybe

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<v Speaker 1>eleven o'clock or so. Mostly it was small talk. Mostly

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<v Speaker 1>it had been a long day, and she was very hired,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said, okay, let's get some rest. I'll show

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<v Speaker 1>you to your room, and so we went in for

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<v Speaker 1>the night. I did a little work on my room

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<v Speaker 1>in the computer. You. Yes, I don't know if she

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<v Speaker 1>was already asleep, but I heard some noises coming from

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<v Speaker 1>around the house or inside the house, and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she was doing something like Yeah. By now, it

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<v Speaker 1>must have been a little past eleven thirty. That's when

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<v Speaker 1>he heard a much louder noise, good a bag, very loud.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe Bait had dropped something in the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was getting ready to get up to go

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<v Speaker 1>help because it sounded very loud. But immediately the door

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<v Speaker 1>of my room was kicked open, and at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>bit yells from her room, who's out there? Everything happened

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<v Speaker 1>at once. Gustavo her gunshots coming from bear To's room,

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<v Speaker 1>and when he looked up, a man was standing in

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<v Speaker 1>his room, no more than six or seven feet away.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked young, nineteen twenty years old, a thin guy,

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<v Speaker 1>dark complexion, black hair, wide eyes, and he was holding

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<v Speaker 1>a gun. Nquist told Mann, I threw myself towards the

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<v Speaker 1>side of the bed, in my room to protect myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and the gunman shot me in the head side. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was a miracle because when I saw his

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<v Speaker 1>eyes and saw his decision to shoot me, I instinctively moved,

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<v Speaker 1>and the gunman evidently thought that the shot had caused

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<v Speaker 1>that scar. Gustavo had thrown his hand up in front

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<v Speaker 1>of his face a protective reflex. The bullet tore through

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<v Speaker 1>the skin of his hand, then it buzzed the side

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<v Speaker 1>of his head, clipping a piece of his ear. Gustavo

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<v Speaker 1>fell to the floor, stunned, bleeding and still betoas okay.

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<v Speaker 1>He evidently thought that I was already dead. Gustavo sprawled

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor, heard footsteps retreat down the hallway, then silence.

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<v Speaker 1>No more than a minute passed, maybe as I was

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<v Speaker 1>down on the floor and be yelled for me. So

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that she was alive and got up to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the room to help her. She was there

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground bleeding. I couldn't tell where the gunshots were,

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<v Speaker 1>only a lot of blood. Little by little, she was

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<v Speaker 1>drowning over the thing. Gustavo was kneeling over bear to

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<v Speaker 1>in shock. Somehow, just before beart to faded out. She

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<v Speaker 1>managed to mouth the final message to him, call Salvador.

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<v Speaker 1>She said that was her ex husband. They'd split years before,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's the father of her four children and he

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<v Speaker 1>remained a major presence in their lives. Gustavo was searched

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<v Speaker 1>for bear to cell phone and found it on a table. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I also had a lot of It was a very

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<v Speaker 1>modern phone, one that I didn't know how to use

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<v Speaker 1>very well. And with all the nerves and and and

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<v Speaker 1>the tension, I was trying to search for familiar telephone numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>but nobody was answering. Gustavo look back at Barton. She

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<v Speaker 1>was gone. Now he was alone, terrified that the killers

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<v Speaker 1>might come back. He grabbed his own phone to make

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<v Speaker 1>the calls. Sometimes he left voicemail messages, and sometimes he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't wait. He just punched in another number from his room.

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<v Speaker 1>He also sent emails to friends and colleagues in Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>begging them to contact anyone in Honduras who might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to come to the house and help him out.

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<v Speaker 1>I was lying in my bed at one in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning on March three, and I was into Goosey Galpa,

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<v Speaker 1>and I received a phone call from Ann number. Karen

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<v Speaker 1>Spring is a Canadian human rights activist who lives into

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<v Speaker 1>Goosey Galpa, the Honduran capital. It's about a four hour

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<v Speaker 1>drive from Las Beranza. So I was alone in the

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<v Speaker 1>house and I received this phone call and then I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, well that's weird. I wonder who's calling me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then somebody else called me again, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, that's weird. I'm gonna listen to the voicemail.

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<v Speaker 1>That first call had been Gustavo. He didn't leave a voicemail.

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<v Speaker 1>The second caller was an activist in Mexico who had

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<v Speaker 1>received a panicked message from Gustavo. The activist called Karen

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<v Speaker 1>to see if Karen might be able to help him.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when I listened to the voicemail, my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>who is very active in the you know, mining networks

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<v Speaker 1>in Mexico, was just saying Berto is dead and Gustavo

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<v Speaker 1>is in her house and he shot and he really

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<v Speaker 1>needs help. And I was like, holy shit. I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to the voicemail and I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. And I just picked up the phone

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<v Speaker 1>and called Bert to phone number, not even you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking thinking twice about it and and I was just

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<v Speaker 1>Gustavo like like, are you okay? It is Bertha dead? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's dead. I'm like, are you sure? You know? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you are you sure? And he's like, yeah, she's she's dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Karen was the first person to speak directly with Gustavo

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<v Speaker 1>that night. She could hear that he was crying, and

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<v Speaker 1>I asked him if he was okay, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>that is dead, and um, she's and and I'm I'm okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm bleeding and can you please find help. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been calling people and nobody's been picking up, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>can you send people to the house. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to do. And then he asked me if he

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<v Speaker 1>should call the police, and I said, don't call the police. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because calling the police and Honduras is like

0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.720
<v Speaker 1>calling the mafia to a crime scene and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>trust them. It might sound kind of crazy you witness

0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.520
<v Speaker 1>a murder, you're alone with the body, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>go out of your way to avoid calling the police

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<v Speaker 1>for help, But in Honduras it's not that crazy. A

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<v Speaker 1>few months before Berta was killed, a survey funded by

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<v Speaker 1>the US government suggested that a solid majority of Hondurans

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<v Speaker 1>simply assumed the police officers were on the payrolls of

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<v Speaker 1>assassins and other bad guys. Almost no one trusted the cops.

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<v Speaker 1>These institutions were not at the service of the people.

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<v Speaker 1>They were at the service of some other interest, uh

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<v Speaker 1>financial or criminal. James Neilon was appointed US Ambassador to

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<v Speaker 1>Honduras in his priorities had been clearly outlined for him well.

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<v Speaker 1>I arrived in Honduras in August of two thousand and fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you'll recall, that was the height of the

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<v Speaker 1>of the first so called unaccompanied miners crisis, when there

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<v Speaker 1>were New York Times headlines and and cable news reports

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<v Speaker 1>of huge numbers of Central Americans unaccompanied children streaming across

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<v Speaker 1>our Southwest order and my marching orders as I headed

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<v Speaker 1>down to Honduras or to or to do something about that.

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<v Speaker 1>He believed the driving force behind the migration was violence.

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<v Speaker 1>In Honduras set a world record. This was the deadliest

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<v Speaker 1>place ever if you didn't count countries at war for

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<v Speaker 1>several years in a row. The country's murder rate was

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<v Speaker 1>about sixteen times higher than in the United States. Honduras

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't only the murder capital of the world at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess you could also label at the impunity

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<v Speaker 1>capital of the world at that time, because very few

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<v Speaker 1>murders were actually successfully investigated to a conclusion. In other words,

0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.240
<v Speaker 1>it was very rare for someone to actually go to

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<v Speaker 1>jail for committing murder. In Honduras, everyone knew the Honduran

0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:54.159
<v Speaker 1>National Police had a corruption problem. Local newspapers were full

0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:58.360
<v Speaker 1>of stories about uniformed officers getting tangled up in drug deals,

0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:03.439
<v Speaker 1>or stealing cars, or even committing murders. Calls for reform

0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:08.639
<v Speaker 1>were gathering steam both inside and outside of Honduras. Just

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<v Speaker 1>before Berta was killed in twenty sixteen, the U. S

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<v Speaker 1>Embassy threw its weight behind an effort to purge the

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<v Speaker 1>Honduran Police of its dirty cops. The Honduran government called

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<v Speaker 1>it the Special Commission for the Purge and Transformation of

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<v Speaker 1>the Honduran National Police. The Commission met for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time after Berta's murder. Over the next two years, from

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen, the Honduran government ended up

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<v Speaker 1>firing almost half of its national force. More than five

0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:47.160
<v Speaker 1>thousand officers out of about thirteen thousand were expelled. Most

0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:51.920
<v Speaker 1>were accused of corruption or ties to criminal groups. It

0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:55.359
<v Speaker 1>wasn't just the rank and file. Of the nine top

0:20:55.440 --> 0:21:00.439
<v Speaker 1>officers in the National Police, six were pushed out. Forty

0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:05.600
<v Speaker 1>seven active police commissioners, about half were fired. Today there's

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<v Speaker 1>still a lot of controversy over that purge, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that the commission went too far. It's that they

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<v Speaker 1>might have been too easy on the police. Each of

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<v Speaker 1>the three top ranking police commanders appointed after the purge

0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:24.440
<v Speaker 1>would later be accused of meeting with drug traffickers who

0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:29.959
<v Speaker 1>paid the officers to protect their shipping routes. However you

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<v Speaker 1>interpret the end result of that purge, remember it hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>even really begun when Barta was killed. All of those

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of corrupt cops that would soon lose their jobs,

0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:47.200
<v Speaker 1>they were still on the force. So Karen Spring wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>being paranoid when she told Gustavo Castro not to call

0:21:50.920 --> 0:22:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the police for help. She was using common sense. When

0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Karen hung up on that first call with Gustavo, she

0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:07.840
<v Speaker 1>could tell he was terrified. He was alone with a

0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:11.640
<v Speaker 1>murdered friend inside a house that now felt more isolated

0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and vulnerable than it ever had. I was repeatedly calling

0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Gustavo to make sure he was okay, because you know,

0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:19.920
<v Speaker 1>he was really scared that the assassins were going to

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<v Speaker 1>come back and finished the job, and that they if

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<v Speaker 1>they knew that he was alive. And so I also

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<v Speaker 1>told him that we need to be very careful about

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<v Speaker 1>who knew that he was still alive at that time

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<v Speaker 1>until he was, you know, in a safe place. Karen

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<v Speaker 1>started calling members of Copeine Barrett's organization in La Speranza.

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<v Speaker 1>One was a man named Thomas Gomez. He agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>drive to Berta's and get Gustavo to safety in case

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<v Speaker 1>the killers returned. Yes, Emilia, it's something like two thirty

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning when Tomas from Gulping arrives to get me.

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I heard the horn from the Gulping pickup truck and

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<v Speaker 1>I told myself, that's Tomas coming from me. This is

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Gustavo stepped out of the bedroom to meet him. The

0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 1>back door of the house connected to the kitchen was open.

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:16.360
<v Speaker 1>The killers had busted through it. That must have been

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<v Speaker 1>the first loud noise he'd heard. I went out through

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the front door. The gate to the fence was locked,

0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:27.359
<v Speaker 1>so I decided to jump the fence and I left

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<v Speaker 1>with Domas. It was around this time when Tomas called

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<v Speaker 1>the police to tell them about the murder. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>and Gustavo drove to the guard station at the entrance

0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:43.840
<v Speaker 1>of the subdivision. Gustavo recognized the old man from earlier

0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:47.639
<v Speaker 1>when he and Bartsa had passed him. Tomas asked the

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<v Speaker 1>guard if he'd seen anything out of the ordinary. He

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<v Speaker 1>said he hadn't. Tomas drove towards the center of town.

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<v Speaker 1>On the side of the road, they spotted a cluster

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<v Speaker 1>of people walking. They were members of Berta's indigenous rights

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<v Speaker 1>organization Copeine. They'd heard about what happened. They didn't have cars,

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<v Speaker 1>but they wanted to help somehow, so Moss told them

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<v Speaker 1>to hop in the truck and he gave them a

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<v Speaker 1>lift back to Berta's house. He told them to guard

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:19.679
<v Speaker 1>the place to make sure it wasn't disrupted before the

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 1>police got there. We dropped the people off and we

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 1>took off to leave again. The crossbar was now raised

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:39.119
<v Speaker 1>and the old man, we don't know what happened to him.

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 1>So Mass and Gustavo found two more groups of Copeine

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 1>members walking along the road and offered them rides. When

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 1>they returned to the house with the last group, they

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 1>saw that the police had now arrived inspecting the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of the Copine members were also inside with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Gustavo couldn't believe it. People were walking through the blood,

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 1>leaving fingerprints everywhere agreement. Obviously the whole scene of the

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:16.879
<v Speaker 1>crime had been altered. That's when Berta's lawyer arrived. He

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:20.440
<v Speaker 1>told Gustavo that a prosecutor wanted to speak to him

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and that he should just wait in the truck. Gustava's

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 1>ear in hand were still bleeding and throbbing with pain.

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<v Speaker 1>More police and army soldiers were now streaming into the

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>crime scene. The media soon arrived. They too were walking

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>into the house, but no one could see Gustavo behind

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the tinted windows of the trucks matros a few meters away.

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I could hear them giving the news reports, saying there

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>was one Gustavo Castro and he's wounded because there was

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of blood in my room. But I wasn't there.

0:25:56.520 --> 0:26:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I just I couldn't be okay. They must have found

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:06.679
<v Speaker 1>his suitcase in the spare room. His name was printed

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:17.919
<v Speaker 1>on the luggage tack back into Gooseagalpa. Karen Spring was

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 1>racing to get to the crime scene. I put out

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>a communicate that Berta had been killed, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>in my car at I think like three o'clock in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, and I drove to Lesperanza. And when I

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>got there, her body had been taken from the crime scene,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was in the back of a pickup truck

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the public Prosecutor's office in Lesperansa. It was

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<v Speaker 1>about eight o'clock in the morning. Now crowds were gathering

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:45.199
<v Speaker 1>around that truck, people trying to get a glimpse of

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Berta's body. Berta was probably less Speranza's most well known citizen.

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 1>People were mourning. They carried pictures of her. They spray

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>painted her name on walls and sidewalks, and their sadness

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 1>was edged with anger. It had been more than seven

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>hours since the murder, and her body was right there

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 1>in the back of a truck in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>a public square, covered only with a dingy gray blanket.

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>To Karen, this was an insult heaped on top of

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 1>a tragedy. She started looking for Gustavo. Someone said he'd

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 1>been taken to a local priest's house where the police

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>were guarding him, and I insisted with the police that

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:29.879
<v Speaker 1>they let me in to see him. They wouldn't let

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>me right away, and then they finally allowed me in,

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and Gustavo was in a room. He was bleeding from

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>his ear, and he was sitting with Berta's oldest daughter,

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 1>telling her what had happened. Gustavo's nerves were shot as

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>he told the story to bears his family, Karen recorded

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 1>everything on her cell phone. He said he didn't know

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.200
<v Speaker 1>where to begin, but he went on to give them

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a detailed account of the evening, where he and Berta

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>had gone out to eat, how they returned to the house,

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>sat on the porch, went to their rooms. As he spoke,

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 1>he kept his voice low, sometimes dipping into a whisper.

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.919
<v Speaker 1>He didn't trust the government types hovering around him, the

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>ones who had been questioning him for hours. People kept

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>coming in and out of the room, interrupting. After about

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes, Gustavo got into the details of the murder itself,

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>how he had heard a very loud bang which he

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>thought might have come from the kitchen, and how seconds

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>later he heard three gunshots you. He then talked about

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 1>how Berta called his name after the gunman left, how

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>he found her on the floor, how he pleaded with

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>her note bias, don't go and okay, that they called

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>me go stay with me, and how she told him

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>to call Salvador, her ex husband. Can shows you how

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>you say that. Finally, he described how he struggled to

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:41.719
<v Speaker 1>use her phone and find her contact list, and then

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 1>how he realized she was gone joy see that she

0:29:54.640 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>wanted to see. In the middle of all of this,

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 1>the police were still pressing Gustavo for more information, and

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>so in that the couple of hours that I was

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>with him, a person that was sent from the Public

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Prosecutor's office who was like going to sketch the face

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>of the person that he could remember had shot him,

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>showed up. Gustavo would describe the gunmen, and the police

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>sketch artist would turn his words into an image said, Okay,

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about these sort of things, but

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I agreed to collapse, right, And so a person comes

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>in and everything was pre arranged, very well planned, and

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>the person the expert comes in who's going to do

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the drawing, and they're trying to convince me that he's

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 1>really good, that he's an expert in these sort of things,

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, So they're trying to convince me that what

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>he's going to draw was going to be good with

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Gustavo started describing the guy, the young face, the short

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>dark hair that you know, the eyes, the lips. He

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>registered all of it, and he started to make the drawing,

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and I told him, no, this isn't the person I saw.

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>So he erases a little bit and then he re

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>draws it more or less the same. That's why I say, no, no, no, no, no,

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't his hair, so he erased it, and then

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>he went back to drawing essentially the same things. Gustavo

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>hadn't slept in two days, as someone finally bandaged his

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 1>ear in hand, but they still hurt. He hadn't eaten.

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Hippo reality want to look at Getter, I mean, so

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, draw whatever you want, and so they

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>asked me, okay, well, what's the percentage of similarity between

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>this drawing and the person you saw? Eighty? I don't

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>know whatever, just put eighty. I don't remember what I said,

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 1>but obviously I approved it. I did not realize the

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 1>importance of that piece of evidence, you know, quill prop.

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>The police knew something that Gustavo didn't. A couple of

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 1>hours before he sat down to do the sketch. They'd

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>arrested someone in connection with the murder, but they withheld

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>this news from Gustavo. The man they'd detained was Berta's

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>ex boyfriend. His name was Aureliano Molina, but friends called

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>him by his nickname Lito. Gustavo had never met Lito,

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>but Lito had been one of the people he'd spoken

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>to on the phone after the murder when he was

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 1>calling everyone in Berta's contacts. When Gustavo eventually saw a

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>picture of Lito, it was a mug shot, and that

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>photo shocked him. That's because the police sketch he'd done,

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 1>the one that didn't really look like the gunman he'd seen,

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>well it looked a lot like Lito, So it was

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 1>all a set up on during authorities have always denied

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>any wrongdoing in the investigation, and police at the time

0:33:56.680 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>said that they were following several leads, but that's not

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the way Gustavo saw it. To him, it seemed the

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 1>investigators were convinced the killer was someone close to Berta.

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<v Speaker 1>Like her ex boyfriend. Lito had been one of the

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<v Speaker 1>first people that Karen Spring had called after she spoke

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<v Speaker 1>with Gustavo. She had reached him at his house in

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<v Speaker 1>a town called San Francisco, Limpira, that's a three hour

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<v Speaker 1>drive from Berta's house in La Speranza. I called our

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<v Speaker 1>Liana Molina, you know, forty five minutes into my whole

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>slew of phone calls that I made in response to

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the phone call I were received from Mexico, and I

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<v Speaker 1>called our Liona Molina and I the first thing I

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>asked him was where are you? And he said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco. What happened? And Isa Berta was murdered?

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<v Speaker 1>And so I had I knew that he wasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>in La Speranza that night, so I knew too that

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't involved at all in the murder. Lito had

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<v Speaker 1>called Gustavo at about two a on the night of

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<v Speaker 1>the murder. He told Gustavo that he'd heard what happened

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>from Karen. He said he'd drive to La Speranza to

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<v Speaker 1>try to help him. Shortly after Lito arrived at about

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<v Speaker 1>five in the morning, police arrested him. Lito's relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>Berta had ended just a few months before. Some members

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 1>of Berta's inner circle, including her mother and her oldest daughter,

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 1>didn't get along with him, But it wasn't anyone from

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Berta's family that pointed the finger at Lito. To them,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of him murdering Berta was absurd, But someone

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<v Speaker 1>did place Lito at the scene of the crime. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the old guard at the entrance to the subdivision.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he saw Lito flee the area before police

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 1>first got there. The old man that guarded the entrance

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<v Speaker 1>declared that Tomas, instead of driving me of the subdivision

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 1>that morning, had actually taken Leto out, so his testimony

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't match those given by Tomas and me, but it

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>was absurd, Gustavo says. The old man's description of Leto

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>included physical details that would be impossible to catch from

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>a quick glimpse through tinted windows in the dark, So

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<v Speaker 1>there were lots of ways in which it became evident

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<v Speaker 1>that this old man had been threatened or tortured or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But his testimony was false, so that it's squared with

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<v Speaker 1>the version that said lethal was guilty of this murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Protests erupted in the Honduran capital after Barth's murder. Students

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<v Speaker 1>demanding justice hurled rocks at riot police. Those police shot

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<v Speaker 1>tear gas and rubber bullets back at them. Berta's murder

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<v Speaker 1>instantly became international news, partly because of the attention she

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<v Speaker 1>just received from the Goldman Prize. Senators were on the

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<v Speaker 1>floor of the U S Capital urging Honduras to conduct

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:23.240
<v Speaker 1>a full, sincere investigation. Celebrities jumped in. Leonardo DiCaprio tweeted

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 1>about Berta. Susan Sarandon posted a video I'm calling on

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<v Speaker 1>the Honduran government to conduct a thorough and transparent investigation

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 1>into the tragic murder Alberta Cassarez, and I demand that

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<v Speaker 1>the perpetrators beheld accountable. Environmentalists all over the world were

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<v Speaker 1>now talking about Ahwa Zarca, the name of the hydro

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:50.280
<v Speaker 1>electric dam that Berta had been fighting. They talked about

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the violence that had surrounded the project, about the threats

0:37:54.960 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Berta had received, about the security protections she was supposed

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 1>to have received. The day after the murder, the Minister

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<v Speaker 1>of Security held a press conference. He said the government

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 1>was willing to protect her whenever she asked for it.

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 1>The minister suggested that the night she was killed, Berta

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 1>had not reached out to them. But we're not here

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<v Speaker 1>to say whether the security failed, but the assassination occurred.

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<v Speaker 1>The police were responsible for protecting her. Patrols were sent

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>to her home to protect her at her request. We

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.879
<v Speaker 1>always tried to comply with her demands and protect her.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately this happened, and we're working to investigate it. Bear

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<v Speaker 1>to his family interpreted statements like that as scapegoating, as

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<v Speaker 1>if it were Bart's fault, as if she'd failed to

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>specifically ask for protection. The night of her murder, Vert's

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 1>oldest daughter, Olivia, spoke at a candlelight vigil for her mother.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a political crime. She had been threatened, She

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>had declared many times, I'm being followed by hitman. It's

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>a farce when they claimed she was murdered because she

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>renounced the protective measures granted her. She never renounced those

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 1>protective measures. The only people who seemed uninterested in the

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>threats she had received were the investigators. As far as

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the family could tell, it seemed that the police considered

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>this an open and shut case. It was a crime

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>of passion, a spat between Berta and an ex boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Any evidence that gotten the way of that theory was ignored.

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<v Speaker 1>The day after the murder, a reporter cornered the security

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<v Speaker 1>minister and asked about the other victim. The activist said

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<v Speaker 1>to have been in the house with Berta without my own. Yes,

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 1>we do have knowledge of this person, but we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to divulge more details from that because this is

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<v Speaker 1>an important person, one who cause us to step back

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<v Speaker 1>and take a pause in the investigation. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>After his encounter with his sketch artist, Gustavo became convinced

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 1>that the evidence wasn't guiding the investigators. Instead, he believed

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the investigators must have been guiding the evidence because it

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 1>was a planned killing. They wanted a clean murder, one

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 1>shall we say, where she was alone, a clean job,

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 1>without any witnesses, and the story was going to be

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>that it had been an assault. Nobody would be able

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>to contradict that the problem would have ended there. But

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<v Speaker 1>the second scenario is there was a witness who survived,

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>who saw one of the gunmen. I saw him from

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>just a few meters away, so their Plan B was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be blame someone from Coping and so Gustavo

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 1>is sitting there alongside the police, and the puzzle pieces

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>of an elaborate conspiracy seemed to be falling into place,

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 1>then breaking apart, then recombining into new shapes. Plan A

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 1>was to kill Baranta without any clues whatsoever, but they

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 1>hadn't counted on a witness. Plan B then was to

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<v Speaker 1>blame someone who worked with Barrita and Copeine, like Lito

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the ex boyfriend, to frame it as a classic crime

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:54.799
<v Speaker 1>of passion. The problem was, the longer the police held Lito,

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 1>the more people vouch for him. His alibi was sound.

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 1>He hadn't been anywhere near Berta's house at the time

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 1>of the murder. In the end, they had to let

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<v Speaker 1>him go, and so the third scenario was, Okay, now

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<v Speaker 1>we can't do that. So Plans C is blame Gustavo.

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<v Speaker 1>For three days, he answered their questions. He led investigators

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:36.239
<v Speaker 1>through Barton's house, recreating the events as he remembered them.

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Step by step. He sorted through countless police mug shots.

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<v Speaker 1>Diplomats from the Mexican embassy and Honduras arrived to try

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<v Speaker 1>to help. At the end of the third day, he'd

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 1>given police all he could. Now it was time to

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<v Speaker 1>go home. His embassy helped him reserve a ticket back

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 1>for early the next morning. The met To can ambassador

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<v Speaker 1>send a message that night to the lead Honduran investigator

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<v Speaker 1>with all the travel details. He never responded to that message.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we were ready for the flight, we left

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<v Speaker 1>for the airport, thinking, okay, they're not interested in us anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it wasn't a big deal. When we got

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<v Speaker 1>to the airport with the security people from the embassy

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and the ambassador and well also the consul. At the

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<v Speaker 1>time of departure, five in the morning, all the investigators

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<v Speaker 1>and the police were hiding in the airport. They came

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<v Speaker 1>out and they blocked the gate and they told me

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot leave, no brave. He felt like he was

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<v Speaker 1>trapped in a horror movie. But the script kept changing. First,

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:04.399
<v Speaker 1>he was cast as the lone witness, a victim, one

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 1>who had been shot and whose blood was all over

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:12.479
<v Speaker 1>the crime scene. Now, in a twist, Gustavo couldn't quite

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 1>believe he somehow had become the prime suspect. Coming up

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<v Speaker 1>on Blood River, we'll venture into a community that was

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<v Speaker 1>torn apart by the battle over the dam, where neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>bought neighbors. They told me, okay, woman, what we're going

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 1>to do is kill you. And when they told me

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 1>they were going to kill me, that's when I felt

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<v Speaker 1>the first blow. The first strike of the machete hit

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<v Speaker 1>me in the head, and after that another machete hit

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 1>me here in the chest. That violence, years later, would

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<v Speaker 1>lead investigators to new clues into new suspects in Barts

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<v Speaker 1>his murder. That's next time on Blood River. Blood River

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