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Speaker 1: The Falcons hold on and win twenty seven to twenty four.
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Speaker 1: Guys, the night the game that you watched, the night
Speaker 1: that Atlanta Falcons pulls off a Shoka with a twenty
Speaker 1: four to twenty one victory over.
Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Ram.
Speaker 1: But it was Bjon Robinson that had himself a Knight,
Speaker 1: and he showed you why he's going to the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: There's a great chance he's gonna be a first team
Speaker 1: All Pro because the way he can start stop on
Speaker 1: a dime.
Speaker 2: Hell O, yo, I thought he was four to four.
Speaker 2: That ain't.
Speaker 1: No four to four could do? Wint got it? Can
Speaker 1: he should have had two ninety y'all?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 5: And then before you before you go talking about the game,
Speaker 5: I want to talk about Bejon real quick and how
Speaker 5: specially and when I look at in NFL history all
Speaker 5: the running backs that had the agility, the quickness, the
Speaker 5: ability to the jump cut, jump start, come to balance
Speaker 5: and reaccelerate again, I can only think of four who
Speaker 5: who looked like Bijon Robinson. I think of Barry Sanders
Speaker 5: for one. I'm not saying any Barry Sanders. I'm talking
Speaker 5: about his style the way I'm not seeing Barry Sanders.
Speaker 5: We got Lashawn McCoy. Yes, we got Marshall Faulk and
Speaker 5: we got Bjon. Now, for those in the chat that
Speaker 5: watch football understand what I'm talking about. I'm not saying,
Speaker 5: I'm not comparing these players at all. I'm saying the
Speaker 5: styling play in which they run the ball and the
Speaker 5: abilities that they have but they had the ball in
Speaker 5: their hands are damn they're similar.
Speaker 1: He definitely reminds me more of Leshan McCoy. Barry was
Speaker 1: more of a two foot jump stop guy and keep going.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at bad, I mean, I've
Speaker 1: never I've never seen a guy and you'll probably never
Speaker 1: see another guy that can do with Barry.
Speaker 2: I mean his joints.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised he ain't got hit replacement and double knee
Speaker 1: and double hip replacement, Joe, because you've never seen a
Speaker 1: guy that can start and stop. I'm talking about he hopped,
Speaker 1: stopped with both feet, shimmy, and then take off running again.
Speaker 2: He was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: But Bjon Robinson, boy boy, boy boy, you beast shot.
Speaker 1: I mean, but he reminds you. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: why he looks like Barry, because Barry can take a
Speaker 1: five yard loss and you forget that it was a loss.
Speaker 1: You like, man, he shook six people, Yeah, but he
Speaker 1: lost five yard.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about that. Don't he worry about that. It's
Speaker 2: second to fifteen.
Speaker 1: I know, but you see all those guys laying on
Speaker 1: the ground, he shook them. And that's what bijon, bijon,
Speaker 1: I mean that thirty one yard run on Joe. Three
Speaker 1: guys had him Dann right what verse I think actually
Speaker 1: had him pulling him down.
Speaker 2: And how he get out of that, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: But they didn't win this ball game tonight, twenty seven
Speaker 1: to twenty four. B Jon Robinson twenty two carres above
Speaker 1: ninety five to one score and he also had a
Speaker 1: receiving touchdown in the first quarter of the ball game.
Speaker 1: And they took an early twenty one to nothing lead,
Speaker 1: built that lead to twenty four to three. But the
Speaker 1: Rams come all the way back. They get a touchdown
Speaker 1: past to Ferguson, they get a block kick, they scored
Speaker 1: a field goal, well they scored the field goal first,
Speaker 1: and then they get the touchdown to Ferguson. Then they
Speaker 1: get the block kick, and then they get the jet
Speaker 1: screen to a Pooka who gets the ball into the
Speaker 1: end zone. But the Falcons go down the field bleed
Speaker 1: the clock almost been.
Speaker 2: A great catch by Pooker that was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Because it looked like a oh joey really until they
Speaker 1: when the ball actually came a loose from it looked
Speaker 1: like a catch.
Speaker 4: It did it did? Poo poo poo. Man. Listen, he's
Speaker 4: been making some unbelievable plays.
Speaker 5: He been making some catches and that would have been
Speaker 5: a dope catch for him to come up with that one.
Speaker 4: But I mean, the ram did this to the cell phone. Now,
Speaker 4: listen to the.
Speaker 5: Offense that we've seen play all year long, putting up
Speaker 5: thirty damn there, thirty thirty five game every They just
Speaker 5: weren't clicking on. They just weren't clicking tonight offensively, and
Speaker 5: Matt didn't make it any easy he did making eensier
Speaker 5: throwing Helly had what uh what three picks? He had
Speaker 5: five interceptions all season long, and he comes in tonight
Speaker 5: and he has.
Speaker 2: Three those three.
Speaker 1: And look the he overshot, he overshot and base the
Speaker 1: third got him runs it backboard pick. But the three
Speaker 1: by two, Oh joe, he passed off three and jumps too.
Speaker 1: We just talked about that last week. The guy jumped,
Speaker 1: passed off too, and jump one. So we see that
Speaker 1: that is a very common thing. They're like, bro, they're
Speaker 1: not throwing you ball they looking to throw the ball.
Speaker 1: They're trying to get me up out of there so
Speaker 1: they can throw in behind me. I'm gonna pass that off.
Speaker 1: Let the safety worry about that, and he did. Thirty
Speaker 1: one made a great play. He had two picks tonight
Speaker 1: which were outstanding. Yeah, but you said that, o Jo.
Speaker 1: The Rams don't have anybody to blame but themselves. And
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to like, no matter what, we're
Speaker 1: the fifth or the sixth seed. You know what I'm saying, Ocho,
Speaker 1: is not like we can't we can't win the division.
Speaker 1: We can't get a home game. So oh well, it
Speaker 1: is what it is. But you never know. I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: the seventh seed might make it, and there so the fifth,
Speaker 1: the fifth or sixth seed, and you do get a
Speaker 1: home game, so you never know what could happen. But
Speaker 1: the Falcons and I told you, I said, oh yo,
Speaker 1: the Falcons defense better than your Fagan, They better you.
Speaker 1: I say, they can gay Floyd and Pierce. They can
Speaker 1: get after you. Ellis, I like that linebacker. I said,
Speaker 1: they can get after people. Remember how they made Josh Allen. Look,
Speaker 1: didn't they beat the Buffalo Bills thirty to nothing?
Speaker 4: Absolutely Hey and that the back in the backing is
Speaker 4: really good too.
Speaker 1: Aj Terrell Ajterrell played really well. You got base the third,
Speaker 1: uh Xavier Watts had an outstanding game. They played. They
Speaker 1: played really well today, Uh, oh jo. They called holding.
Speaker 1: That wasn't look I think they ended up scoring anyway,
Speaker 1: But that wasn't no holding. The linel was going down
Speaker 1: the left tackle go ahead and throws him down the
Speaker 1: nickel because Pooker made a great you know, that was
Speaker 1: a long touchdown pass day.
Speaker 2: I think they ended up scoring on that drive anyway.
Speaker 1: But this was a game and Zaying Gonzales made a
Speaker 1: fifty one yard field goal with twenty five seconds left,
Speaker 1: which turned out to beat the game winner. The Rams
Speaker 1: will get the number five seed in the NFC if
Speaker 1: they win against which is a home game, and the
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers lose to the Seahawks. If the Rams
Speaker 1: lose to the Cardinals or the forty nine Ers beat
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, the Rams would get the six seed. That
Speaker 1: might not be a bad idea because you get an
Speaker 1: opportunity to play the Uh the Eagles. The Eagles are
Speaker 1: not as not as vaunted as they were last year.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: They're not clicking on all similar seventeen total yards in
Speaker 1: the second half. I think Jalen Hurts had two yards
Speaker 1: in the second I don't think he completed the pass
Speaker 1: in the second half.
Speaker 2: Looked at him. I don't think he completed the pass
Speaker 2: in the second half. O't Joe.
Speaker 5: I think I think that would be a good matchup,
Speaker 5: especially in favor of the Rams, the Rams being able
Speaker 5: to score it. Well for the back it would be
Speaker 5: a good thing because the Eagles defense, the Eagle will
Speaker 5: show Yes, now what what portion of what part of
Speaker 5: the Eagles offense?
Speaker 4: So we're going to get that game?
Speaker 5: Are they going to give us a portion of their
Speaker 5: office that we just saw this previous weekend?
Speaker 4: Then they going home, They going home early.
Speaker 1: Well, Devonte will be back. You forgot Davante being gone
Speaker 1: the last two games, and he looked good. I mean
Speaker 1: he was warming up on the field. That kept him down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there's a chance that they keep him. They keep
Speaker 1: him out one more time and give him another week.
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming that when he gets back. Now, the
Speaker 1: thing is, oh, jo, you know, hamstrings, they like warm weather.
Speaker 1: They don't really like the cold. You're going outside in
Speaker 1: Philly's and maybe that storm that hit the Northeast, hit
Speaker 1: New York and Philly and upstairs, you know all that area.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's blown over.
Speaker 1: By that time, by the time they get there, it
Speaker 1: wasn't two in two weeks. Maybe that storm is gone
Speaker 1: and another one won't blow back in. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought the Falcons played really good, that they Cousins
Speaker 1: didn't have to do a whole lot. He was thirteen
Speaker 1: to twenty one, twenty six, one touchdown but b Jon Robinson.
Speaker 1: They had thirty three carries to nineteen and a touchdown
Speaker 1: and the one touchdown to b Jon Robinson. But Bijeon
Speaker 1: was sensational to day that. I mean, what can you saying.
Speaker 1: I'm glad people get an opportunity to see him. He's been
Speaker 1: a couple of national televised games, but you get an
Speaker 1: opportunity to see one of the better backs in the league,
Speaker 1: and you see how he can catch the ball, he
Speaker 1: can run it, and TV you know if I'm teams,
Speaker 1: but I'm scary, I'm afraid don't show that he might
Speaker 1: slip because I really want to blitz him and make
Speaker 1: him stay and blocked.
Speaker 2: But just my look, I bless him and he slip
Speaker 2: out the ball.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one of the few players you don't want
Speaker 5: to see in space.
Speaker 2: Nov So.
Speaker 1: Obviously Karen Williams ran the ball. He had thirteen carries
Speaker 1: for ninety two yards. Didn't have nearly enough. They had
Speaker 1: twenty rushes one to fifteen. But because they fell behind
Speaker 1: by so much, it kind of neutralized the running game.
Speaker 1: They went back to it, but not nearly as enough
Speaker 1: as Sean McVay would like to call the running game
Speaker 1: because he likes to do a lot of play action
Speaker 1: off of the running game All Lah Kyle Shanahan in
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine, and they do a lot
Speaker 1: even when they go in motion and they insert the
Speaker 1: wide receivers. A lot of times those wide receivers looking
Speaker 1: to run cross the routes or they're looking to run
Speaker 1: the sail routes. And because you see most times when
Speaker 1: people motion the wide receiver in and he leads up.
Speaker 2: Inside it like oh, here come the run block.
Speaker 1: But they'll fake it and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he'll go to the far across or he'll go to
Speaker 1: the seven. Yeah, but they didn't get an opportunity to
Speaker 1: do a lot of that to night because they fell
Speaker 1: behind by so much. They turned them all over Atlanta
Speaker 1: Capital lives on it. But uh, this get I am
Speaker 1: so glad to fire because one because this thing would
Speaker 1: have been real a mister Blank would have been very
Speaker 1: disappointed with Ryan.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's it's it's unfortunate obviously that the head coach
Speaker 5: is responsible for losses like that, when when the onus
Speaker 5: is on the players. You know, all the coach you
Speaker 5: can do is they can coach, they can go through
Speaker 5: the exit and o's they can get a game plan,
Speaker 5: they can get the scheme. They can tell you what
Speaker 5: we need to do.
Speaker 4: You know, and and it's up to you. It's up
Speaker 4: to you to execute it.
Speaker 5: And when mistakes are made on the field, it's sad
Speaker 5: that you know, the responsibility is on the coach when
Speaker 5: it's actually the player that makes that makes those mistakes.
Speaker 4: That that's the part that sucks.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: They get they get they get a lot of credit
Speaker 1: when things go well, far maybe far too much credit,
Speaker 1: and when things go bad, they get too much of
Speaker 1: the blame. But at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: try to put you in the best position that I
Speaker 1: possibly can. Now it's left up left up to you
Speaker 1: to go execute those but you know they're foul because
Speaker 1: they're still fighting hard. Now you look at them, like, bro,
Speaker 1: the way y'all play, it ain't no way y'all should
Speaker 1: be under five hundred.
Speaker 2: Y'all.
Speaker 1: Y'all should have been so the last weekend should have
Speaker 1: come down to you guys and and and Carolina and
Speaker 1: Tampa for the division, not just now. You guys are player.
Speaker 1: You know A want to finish out strong B eighty nine. Nah,
Speaker 1: y'all too. They got they got too much talent on
Speaker 1: show you. I mean when you look at them, look
Speaker 1: at b Jon Robinson. Now year you look at the
Speaker 1: receivers of Mooney and Robinson and County Drake London, David Sills,
Speaker 1: the fifth uh stepped up tonight. They got too much
Speaker 1: talent on the offensive side of football. And that defense
Speaker 1: isn't bad. There is a bad they can get after
Speaker 1: the quarterback. I lo like Lennon Floyd. I always thought
Speaker 1: he was good. I like Piers Ellis, the linebacker's really good.
Speaker 2: They got a J. Terrell, they got good player.
Speaker 1: If if I misster Blank, if I'm mister blank, I'm
Speaker 1: giving Raheem an ultimatum, make the playoffs, say you got
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 2: It's really that simplow Joe, damn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, on which when you're right on which, when
Speaker 4: you're right, this is this is right? He third year? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Uh, it's his second year in it?
Speaker 1: Is it third or second? Because didn't they take it?
Speaker 1: Might be a third year old, j if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: this is the second year, because I remember they took
Speaker 1: they took Pennick Jr. Last year, which was his first year, right, right,
Speaker 1: But you look at what they got. They got aj Terrell,
Speaker 1: they got Jesse Based third, Lennard Floyd Piris Junior. They
Speaker 1: got some guys. Those interior guys are really good. They're
Speaker 1: not in the names like a Jeffrey Simmons. They're not
Speaker 1: a name like a Chris Jones. They're not a name
Speaker 1: like that. But they're solid players.
Speaker 2: Yeah in that division, oh Joe, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: You gotta make the playoffs in that division because they
Speaker 1: ain't No, ain't no hell Raisers in that division. There's
Speaker 1: some solid teams, but they're not. There are no there
Speaker 1: are no Rams in that division. There are no Seahawks
Speaker 1: in that division. There are no forty nine ers in
Speaker 1: that division. There are no Eagles in that division. There's
Speaker 1: no Chicago or the Green Bays.
Speaker 2: In that division.
Speaker 1: Nah, that's that's one of the week of divisions in football.
Speaker 1: And I expect better than what I got this year.
Speaker 1: At some point in time, Ojoe, we can't keep kicking
Speaker 1: this thing down the road and say next year and
Speaker 1: next year and next year.
Speaker 2: You got enough. He's given you enough now to go
Speaker 2: make it thay happen.
Speaker 4: Definitely have enough to compete and compete. Definitely got another.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be very interesting.
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers, the forty nine ers, if they
Speaker 1: beat Seattle, they're the number one seed. Seattle wins, Seattle's
Speaker 1: the one seed. Those are the only scenarios. Those are SiO.
Speaker 4: Good thing about those scenarios. Either way or go. I'm
Speaker 4: in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Well, if the Bears hold on, if the Eagles win
Speaker 1: and the Bears lose, the Eagles will go to the
Speaker 1: two slot, the Bears will fall down to the three slot,
Speaker 1: and the winner of the NFC South will be in
Speaker 1: the four slot.
Speaker 2: So there's still very much there's still a lot to play.
Speaker 1: For, There's still a lot on the line, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be very very interesting to see what transpires. Who
Speaker 1: the Eagles got the Commanders. Eagles got the command the
Speaker 1: Cowboys got.
Speaker 5: The should be easy out. I don't mean to be
Speaker 5: respectful who the Eagles.
Speaker 4: It should be easy.
Speaker 2: Out, you know now?
Speaker 1: I remember they ran the score up on them. They
Speaker 1: say we got something for y'all. We see y'all a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Now what they say on y'all, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know that.
Speaker 4: Listen. I know one thing.
Speaker 5: We can have the bottom of the offense fall out
Speaker 5: like it did last week.
Speaker 4: We can't have that.
Speaker 5: We can't have we can't buy week. But anyway, you
Speaker 5: can't go into a second half of seventeen yards of offense.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna win that game. You can't do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cause you definitely want to be playing your best
Speaker 1: football going towards the playoff momentum.
Speaker 4: You need that momentum going into the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I agree. I definitely agree with you.
Speaker 1: But the Falcons win, Uh, they get an opportunity to
Speaker 1: close out the season on a positive note, if they
Speaker 1: can go, if they can beat.
Speaker 2: They got New Orleans, right, Yeah, they got New Orleans.
Speaker 4: New Orleans.
Speaker 1: They hate New Orleans, hate them, and they hate New Orleans.
Speaker 2: The fans hate each other.
Speaker 1: He O Joe, you would think that this is Baltimore, Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: or this is uh the Cowboys commanders. It used to
Speaker 1: be uh, you know, the derogatory term the Eagles Giant.
Speaker 2: You would think it was one of those O.
Speaker 4: Yo, it's bad. Got understand, and I'm just finding out
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 5: I'm just finding out about it, you know, trying to
Speaker 5: try to trying to have everybody come together and have
Speaker 5: a kom by y'all moment, you know, a great game,
Speaker 5: having the Saints fans and Falcons fans sit together and
Speaker 5: enjoy the game as one man. They told me, fuck, wait.
Speaker 2: A minute, and they wasn't. They weren't very hospitable when
Speaker 2: when hurricane control to.
Speaker 4: Get either, they wasn't. They wasn't.
Speaker 2: That's what they like. Don't break your hands up here,
Speaker 2: go down to Houston, to go to gow, go somewhere.
Speaker 2: They come here.
Speaker 1: I said, come on, bad, we can y'all can resume
Speaker 1: that of a later day time. No, it's always it's
Speaker 1: been that, it's always gonna be.
Speaker 4: I would love to know.
Speaker 5: I would love to know the backstory on why the
Speaker 5: hatred is the way it is. I understand if it's
Speaker 5: you know, it's a division game. You have you you
Speaker 5: have your teams that you love, but it's a it's
Speaker 5: a it's a real hate. When I talk to all
Speaker 5: Saints faces like there's don't like not damn what happened?
Speaker 5: I need, I need the backstory on why it really
Speaker 5: is like that.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, do you think they could have called that?
Speaker 1: Because to me it wasn't arm bar offered.
Speaker 5: You can't do that now when you're hand fighting's okay,
Speaker 5: but you behind, if you're hide your start even in
Speaker 5: your hand fighting, that's one thing that's that's fair. You
Speaker 5: have an opportunity to make a play for the ball,
Speaker 5: but knowing that you're behind, and the only way what
Speaker 5: you can do is it's almost it's almost a betteran
Speaker 5: move too, uncle. You grab it is you hold one
Speaker 5: hand down the best way, the best way you can.
Speaker 5: But it's hard for the rep who's it's hard.
Speaker 1: For the rep whose body is being blocked by the
Speaker 1: receiver to see it that But guess who's not blocked.
Speaker 1: That back judge, the side judge might not can see it,
Speaker 1: but there's a back judge up under the gold post.
Speaker 1: That's far enough fact that he can see it, or
Speaker 1: you can see it.
Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, you can see.
Speaker 5: I think he blocked. I think he blocked off on.
Speaker 5: I think because you got a thing where to with
Speaker 5: the way to.
Speaker 4: Was going on the deep ball, the ball was over
Speaker 4: his over uh of.
Speaker 2: His inside outside I know it was over outside shoulder.
Speaker 5: It was like, I mean, the ref K, the ref
Speaker 5: K see what's going on on the other side.
Speaker 2: Think about it.
Speaker 1: If I'm going like this, I'm coming towards you and
Speaker 1: I reached. He's got my left R opinion. So theoretically,
Speaker 1: if the if the side judge is blocked, there's the
Speaker 1: bat judge.
Speaker 5: Right there, and you know what the side judge is
Speaker 5: he all the way down the field too. Can't you
Speaker 5: even see that? I don't even think the side judge
Speaker 5: got a visual.
Speaker 1: He should because they'd be throwing flags out of nowhere
Speaker 1: from somewhere some of somebody be having yellow flags let'st
Speaker 1: in the stands.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: But it was great And I'm not so sure, Ojo
Speaker 1: had he caught it, because there was ten seconds on
Speaker 1: the clock. I'm not so sure, Ojo. They could have
Speaker 1: got everybody to the line and killed it to get
Speaker 1: a chance to get a ball.
Speaker 4: Get out the timeouse already. Yeah, it was out of time.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Joe, if they could have got down
Speaker 1: there in ten seconds them lineman, hold on.
Speaker 4: That's another thing the NFL might need to go back.
Speaker 5: Why don't you allow people to at least get themselves
Speaker 5: set before you start?
Speaker 2: And now they ain't got nothing to do with me.
Speaker 2: I'm let that clock run, TI.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 5: You said, at least give a team opportunity to get
Speaker 5: to the ball once the referee says the ball, and
Speaker 5: then let the clock go.
Speaker 1: The clocks going regardless. See, you try to get the
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Speaker 1: Drake may have a total of two incompletions in week seventeen. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford threw three interceptions. Matthew Stafford now has updated
Speaker 1: he has forty two touchdowns, eight interceptions. Drake may has
Speaker 1: thirty four touchdowns eight interceptions. But he was exquisite yesterday
Speaker 1: and everybody saw it. And Matthew Stafford everybody saw the
Speaker 1: three interceptions, so a less something. And I'm trying to think,
Speaker 1: who did the Jets play the Dolphins just played No,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean the Patriots play the Dolphins played Itdolphin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Bills got a bye week.
Speaker 4: You know what I did too yesterday.
Speaker 5: I don't know what you do yesterday when we asked
Speaker 5: about who would be the MVP, and I chose, I
Speaker 5: chose to Stafford.
Speaker 4: But what Matt Stafford is doing, he's supposed to be
Speaker 4: doing that. We've seen him that before.
Speaker 5: I want to make I want to change my pick,
Speaker 5: and not because it's a nice performance, because I look
Speaker 5: at the body of work that Drake May has put
Speaker 5: over throughout the entirety of this season and how he's
Speaker 5: put the Patriots on his back. And the reason, I mean, honestly,
Speaker 5: the sole reason why they're in continent this year and
Speaker 5: having a chance of going to the playoffs and playing
Speaker 5: for Lombardi Trophy in absence of Tom Brady is because
Speaker 5: of him, Not because jos not because of Josh mcdame,
Speaker 5: not because of Mike Vrabel, but Drake May. Because he's
Speaker 5: the one has to make those decisions with the ball,
Speaker 5: and he's done extremely well at protecting the ball and
Speaker 5: making the most of all his opportunities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, he's played extremely well, but I think we can't.
Speaker 1: We can't say enough about what Josh has done and
Speaker 1: Josh ability to get on that wave length. He under
Speaker 1: the quarterback, He understands the quarterback. He always plays to
Speaker 1: his quarterback strength. We saw this where he had Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: But and then you saw I think, I think, no,
Speaker 1: that's Bill O'Brien there because of what you coll him
Speaker 1: had already left, Uh, Charlie Weiss, And I think Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien was there then. Wasn't Bill O'Brien the OC in
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight when Matt Castle came in.
Speaker 4: After after Tom towards knee?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Bill O'Brien was there. Yeah, he was,
Speaker 1: because remember when they went to the Super Bowl and lost. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien was the head coach, wasn't he? I mean
Speaker 1: the OC? Yeah, but you look at what he's been
Speaker 1: able to do with the quarter when he had Mac Jones.
Speaker 1: Mac Jones looked really, really well, went to the Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: they went to the playoffs. Then all of a sudden, No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't all of a sudden. Josh McDaniel's got the
Speaker 1: head coaching job first Oakland and still instead of coach
Speaker 1: Belichick hiring somebody because look, coach Belichick always keeps, he
Speaker 1: rarely goes outside. Normally, the people that he hires he
Speaker 1: hires from the end. If you go back and study
Speaker 1: his history, Bill O'Brien was already on the staff and
Speaker 1: everybody that normally that he hires is already on his staff.
Speaker 2: Rarely, rarely does he go outside.
Speaker 1: And that's why he had Matt Patricia and Joe Judge
Speaker 1: take over the oc OC job when he should have
Speaker 1: gone outside. If you didn't trust somebody that was already
Speaker 1: on your staff, you can't hire. You can't hire a
Speaker 1: special teams coach and a defensive coordinator all of a
Speaker 1: sudden to be co offensive coordinators and being a young
Speaker 1: players there, you just can't do that. But Matthew Stafford, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he definitely hurt himself tonight. It reminds me of the
Speaker 1: situation that Patrick Mahomes was was leading in the MVP
Speaker 1: race and and they played the Atlanta Falcons and they won,
Speaker 1: but Patrick Mahons did not play well and and Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers through like three touchdowns and took over the lead
Speaker 1: and he ended up winning the MVP. So we might
Speaker 1: have a very very similar situation on our hands. Sixty
Speaker 1: three percent of the chat is taking Drake May for
Speaker 1: the MVP, thirty percent is taking Matthew Stafford. O Jo,
Speaker 1: an NFL agent, say the biggest story of the off
Speaker 1: season could be the Ravens trading Lamar Jackson. The biggest
Speaker 1: story in the off season is going to be Lamar.
Speaker 1: That's going to be crazy. According to The Athletic, the
Speaker 1: agent loved Minnesota as an under the radar destination.
Speaker 2: The Vikings would send jj McCarthy, don't you do that?
Speaker 2: We don't want They don't want him.
Speaker 1: As part of the deal, giving both quarterbacks a fresh start,
Speaker 1: Jackson on artificial turf and.
Speaker 2: A dome lookout.
Speaker 1: McCarthy would Harbaugh work well, No, send him to San Diego.
Speaker 1: If if Minnesota said, okay, if y'all want to trade it,
Speaker 1: we'll send him, send him to his old court.
Speaker 2: That's that's John, That's not Jill.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Ojo, McCarthy with a Harball worked well in Michigan,
Speaker 1: whereas the coach is gim not John.
Speaker 2: No ish.
Speaker 1: Lamar being traded could be similar to the Mavericks trading
Speaker 1: Luca Donget. The agent said, the Mavericks are were complaining
Speaker 1: about Luca's toughness, taking care of his body work. At
Speaker 1: Luca gets moved, he loses all that weight, he gets
Speaker 1: in shape, and now he has a new lease on life.
Speaker 1: Lamar might be the same. The key difference from Baltimore's
Speaker 1: standpoint is that the Ravens, unlike the Mavericks, would be
Speaker 1: getting strong value in return.
Speaker 4: No, that not strong value. What struck man?
Speaker 2: Y'all need to stop. At least Anthony Davis on Joe.
Speaker 1: At least Anthony Davis was an All NBA selection, an
Speaker 1: All Defensive selection. He is a top seventy five player,
Speaker 1: and he even won a championship. What the hell has
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy done in the NFL?
Speaker 4: I see you're going with that, Listen. I like the
Speaker 4: move anytime.
Speaker 5: I'll say this, I'll say this anytime their their rumblings,
Speaker 5: their rumblings when it comes to a player of this magnitude,
Speaker 5: that there's always a little truth to it. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: where there's smoke, there's fire, you know. And if he's
Speaker 5: gonna get traded, I mean, I like the destination of
Speaker 5: Lamar actually coming home and and and the Dolphins being
Speaker 5: able to rebuild and doing what they need to do. Uh, Minnesota,
Speaker 5: that's a nice destination as well. You pair your pear
Speaker 5: god damn Lamar Jackson with one of the better receivers
Speaker 5: in the league and in Justin Jefferson and Addison and Hockinson,
Speaker 5: that would be oh hell no, that would almost be
Speaker 5: unfair either way.
Speaker 1: But I don't want but I don't want J J.
Speaker 1: McCarthy that people talk about, Oh that's great value.
Speaker 2: That ain't no great value.
Speaker 4: Who said it was a great value.
Speaker 2: I guess the agent that's doing all this.
Speaker 4: Talking don't know. He probably he probably needs his iron check.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 4: That's all. He needs iron check. But I don't I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 2: But what I don't get, O Joe.
Speaker 1: He also said, and he finished up with this, if
Speaker 1: Lamar were put on the block, even quietly, you are
Speaker 1: to that that that that is not established at the quarterback,
Speaker 1: you do whatever it takes to get him.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, they had an opportunity.
Speaker 1: Now there's no there, there's This is not to say
Speaker 1: the Ravens wouldn't have matched, but he had a non exclusive.
Speaker 1: You could have had Lamar Jackson for two first round
Speaker 1: draft picks. You could have had him. Now again, that's
Speaker 1: not to say the Ravens wouldn't have matched nobody. No,
Speaker 1: think about how many people needed quarterbacks three years ago.
Speaker 2: All these teams that have drafted.
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks, whether it's Atlanta, whether it's Carolina, whether it's Houston,
Speaker 1: whether it's the Saints, Uh, the Giants. I mean it's
Speaker 1: a half of it's more than a half. The league
Speaker 1: needed a quarterback and nobody took him. And he was
Speaker 1: an League MVP at the time, So I'm comfused.
Speaker 5: Regardless, Hu, he wasn't going to regardless, even if the
Speaker 5: Ravens had the match, which is what they would have done.
Speaker 5: He was Lamar Jackson was their identity. Lamar Jackson was
Speaker 5: their team. He was the face of that franchise. There
Speaker 5: was nowhere else they can go that would make a difference.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine him in Atlanta on that turn in
Speaker 2: that city? Oho, I.
Speaker 4: Had to take my glasses off. Man. Listen, Hey, Breake London.
Speaker 5: With Jon Huh, with Kyle Pitts, with that, with that defense.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that the Eagle defense. I'm not saying
Speaker 5: that the Bronco defense. But they're they're good enough.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if they get Lamar,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to get Bejon because they're probably
Speaker 1: not going to be that bad to be able to ok.
Speaker 4: That age.
Speaker 1: So that would have been boy. Can you imagine him
Speaker 1: in the backfield Lamar and b.
Speaker 4: John they think about them to run a RP O
Speaker 4: Man stopped playing.
Speaker 1: But you know what I like Jon? I like Jean
Speaker 1: is an eye back. If you notice most of his
Speaker 1: stuff happened to die. If you go back and look
Speaker 1: at if you look at Oho, you look at Saturday
Speaker 1: the game, what formation did they have a king Henry?
Speaker 4: You were back there seven yards?
Speaker 5: He is on the line straight down hill with Pritchard,
Speaker 5: with Pretcher right in front of him. Most of the time.
Speaker 5: He like a Pretchell looking like looking like Lorenz O'Neill.
Speaker 5: My bad, I said it wrong. Yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 1: Hell, people don't realize he's three hundred pounds moving like that,
Speaker 1: the four back ways three hundred.
Speaker 5: Yes, hey don't hey he got Patrick. Yes, that's that's
Speaker 5: a well put together three hundred. Because he don't look
Speaker 5: nothing like that.
Speaker 2: I don't he don't.
Speaker 4: For sure he is here.
Speaker 2: They're throwing they don't really throw it to him.
Speaker 1: See, they don't use him like they use Caleus and
Speaker 1: Sam Frank, Sam Frank. Hey, they'll throw They'll throw him
Speaker 1: a screen, They'll throw him the ball down the field.
Speaker 2: He go down the field and catches like hold on,
Speaker 2: how you get your you know.
Speaker 1: It's called count to a similar play we used to
Speaker 1: call f to split where you know, to pull back,
Speaker 1: fake it, get up the field and they throw it
Speaker 1: to him behind the once the linebacker step up. But
Speaker 1: they throw it the coleustchick going down the field. But look,
Speaker 1: this is this might be.
Speaker 2: A lot of talk.
Speaker 1: Like you said, oh Jo, there's a little truth even
Speaker 1: in a lie, and maybe we're gonna find out.
Speaker 2: We just know this. They're gonna have to do something.
Speaker 1: They're not going to let him play on that seventy
Speaker 1: plus million dollar cap hit next year. They're going to
Speaker 1: do something. This team is going to look different next
Speaker 1: year than it does now. They've got to They've got it.
Speaker 1: Is an absolute must. Other than getting Lamar Jackson contract
Speaker 1: under control, whether you extend him or whatever, the games means.
Speaker 1: You've got to get past rushers. All you have to
Speaker 1: do is look at last night's game, when they couldn't
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. You end up having a score
Speaker 1: of forty two to three.
Speaker 4: I got I got a question for you too.
Speaker 5: What if to be able to get the pass rushers,
Speaker 5: what if you want to get the pieces that you
Speaker 5: need to do and you you you end up letting
Speaker 5: Lamar go somewhere else to have the cap.
Speaker 4: Room to do just that.
Speaker 2: That defeat the purpose.
Speaker 5: But then that puts you further behind because then offensively,
Speaker 5: where you go from there, exactly where you go from there,
Speaker 5: because you're not going to get a quarter You're not
Speaker 5: going to get another Lamar Jack.
Speaker 2: Now, you're not gonna get an equal quarterback to.
Speaker 5: Lamars because the ones that would be equal to that
Speaker 5: are the league number one quarterbacks on other teams.
Speaker 1: They're dug in, They're not going anywhere. My problem is
Speaker 1: is that the problem that I've had with this this
Speaker 1: year's team is that Deck Henry should have had damn
Speaker 1: near nineteen hundred yards.
Speaker 4: Again, Yeah, he ain't that fault.
Speaker 1: Look at when they give him the football twenty to twenty.
Speaker 2: The man carried it thirty six times and he wasn't tired.
Speaker 1: No, you do real oh, Joe, you do realize he's
Speaker 1: like thirty plus yards away from fifteen hundred. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: people like, oh, he had a quiet think about it.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 1: He was like seventy yards away, almost eighty yards away
Speaker 1: from two k. He's already gotten a two thousand yard
Speaker 1: season on his belt. Then he comes Then he gets
Speaker 1: a nineteen twenty one the first time there. Now he
Speaker 1: comes back, he's at always fourteen hundred. Now we know
Speaker 1: the Steelers are style against the run. They're gonna do
Speaker 1: everything they can to try to take that away. But
Speaker 1: I don't care take it away.
Speaker 5: I meant to say that yesterday too, especially when you
Speaker 5: but you had to be so upset about your your thoughts.
Speaker 4: Sorry, honey, I forgot to say.
Speaker 5: I'm like, wait a minute, where you can give him
Speaker 5: the ball thirty times a game, you know, and do
Speaker 5: what you did last week, but you also playing the
Speaker 5: goddamn steal his defense that you not for the just
Speaker 5: impose your will on and run up and down the
Speaker 5: field like.
Speaker 4: You want to.
Speaker 2: I think he had.
Speaker 1: I think he had he had about seventy yards last
Speaker 1: time they played Ojo.
Speaker 5: Yeah, them boy, them boys coming down here and they
Speaker 5: coming to the party now.
Speaker 1: But the problem is is that it's just hard. Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard when you pay a quarterback that
Speaker 1: kind of money to turn it to say, okay, well
Speaker 1: we just hand the ball off. When you got a
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, when you got those guys like that, it's
Speaker 1: just hard because I paid you all this money to
Speaker 1: do what ojo for the football. But see, and I
Speaker 1: think the problem that we're running into that you run into.
Speaker 1: Do we think any less of John L. Wade because
Speaker 1: he had Terrell Davis?
Speaker 2: We don't. He won the Bowl.
Speaker 1: Everybody says John Elway won two Super Bowls. He was
Speaker 1: the MVP in his last one. Let that's ink end.
Speaker 1: So if Lamar has to hand the ball, if Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry has to run him to a championship, or if
Speaker 1: James Cook run Josh Allen to a championship, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna hold out.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: We don't hold out against Troy Aman. We don't hold
Speaker 1: against Tad Bradshaw because he had Emmitt Smith and Terry
Speaker 1: had Franco Harris.
Speaker 2: We don't hold that against him.
Speaker 1: But now, all of a sudden, now if a quarterback
Speaker 1: and elite quarterback has a nice running back, well he
Speaker 1: got carried. Do you realize I be looking up go
Speaker 1: back and look at the Steelers and look at what
Speaker 1: they had defensively and offensively. A Pro Bowl center, an
Speaker 1: excuse me, a Hall of Fame center, a Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame running back, two Hall of Fame receivers, five Hall
Speaker 1: of famers on defense, and a Hall of Fame owner,
Speaker 1: and a Hall of Fame coach.
Speaker 2: But don't nobody say he got carried. Look at what
Speaker 2: emmittt had.
Speaker 1: Michael Learvins is in the Hall of Fame, Larry Allen
Speaker 1: is in the Hall of Fame. Emmitt Smith is in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Charles Haley is in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. Deon Sanders is in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Darren Woodson is on the ballot to be in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Nobody said, as these guys got carried.
Speaker 1: John Elway, Shannon Sharks in the Hall of Fame. Gary
Speaker 1: Zimmerman is in the Hall of Fame. To Real Davis
Speaker 1: is in the Hall of Fame. Steve Atward is in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Nobody says seven got carried. It
Speaker 1: depends on but we want to put because we want
Speaker 1: to devalue the guy, because we want to problem. We
Speaker 1: want to keep our guy up here. We'll devalue that
Speaker 1: the hell with y'all.
Speaker 5: Making up a reason on why, right, ain't nobody ain't
Speaker 5: nobody look ah.
Speaker 2: There ain't nobody. Judge jayleen Hurst did that he threw.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice to have a running game, But ain't
Speaker 1: nobody talking about no carried man.
Speaker 2: Y'all, y'all gotta stop this.
Speaker 1: Go back and look at the game, the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: that Peyton won, and see how many yards they rush for.
Speaker 2: Go back a look at it.
Speaker 4: Damn I forgot who that was. That was who was
Speaker 4: running edge? Was a running back?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, dad trading Joseph and Die and what's the other
Speaker 1: guy name? They had almost two hundred yards rushing against
Speaker 1: the Bears. But we gotta stop this. It's okay. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I'm trying to win. I
Speaker 1: don't care who's getting the credit. They're like, man, you
Speaker 1: ain't doing nothing in the Super Bowl. I got a ring,
Speaker 1: and they got just as many diamonds as John's got it,
Speaker 1: got just as many diamonds as TV's got. My ring
Speaker 1: got just as many diamonds, and all three of those
Speaker 1: guys with the MVPs my ring just as big as bears.
Speaker 4: Well you got your ring in that with you?
Speaker 1: Uh, uh, they had a safety deposit box and and uh,
Speaker 1: and I want to.
Speaker 4: See you know, I ain't never seen no Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 4: I want a few of them on mad.
Speaker 2: But Dominique roads roads.
Speaker 4: Remember Dominique. And I ain't never seen no super Bowl
Speaker 4: ring up closed. I want to see it.
Speaker 1: But at them things and got mad. Them things so
Speaker 1: big now, old Joe, Oh you're small. Yeah yeah, they
Speaker 1: like normal size. I don't know, I don't know when
Speaker 1: they got you remember those those ring those three finger rings.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, back.
Speaker 1: I don't know when they started making super Bowl rings
Speaker 1: that big, but that's what they are now. And I
Speaker 1: think each year because somebody's like, oh, man, man, you
Speaker 1: see the Patriots man, the Patriots ring this big, Well,
Speaker 1: I gotta be bigger than there. And they said, man,
Speaker 1: you saw the Patriots man, you saw the chiefe the
Speaker 1: Chiefs like, I've got to be bigger than the Patriots.
Speaker 1: And then you get, uh, you get the Rams saying
Speaker 1: I gotta be bigger than the Chiefs, and you get
Speaker 1: the Eagle said I've got to be bigger than So
Speaker 1: I mean pretty soon, o't joke. Pretty soon, I was
Speaker 1: they're gonna get them medallion. They're gonna be looking at flavor.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna get me a ring maid on.
Speaker 2: Well you go to you go to jameson.
Speaker 1: John what I think there's only like that I can
Speaker 1: call off the top of my head. Jostin's bow for
Speaker 1: because Johstin and Balfor used to do class. Now most
Speaker 1: everybody when they go to get rings b n B
Speaker 1: A w n B A NHL Hill.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jada playing, he made a couple of pieces for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a couple of pews from Jay's good
Speaker 2: do man.
Speaker 1: I like it, Uh, John Arbrod now is today it
Speaker 1: would be if it's to beat to be determined whether
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson can play Sunday Night against the Steelers with
Speaker 1: your crowd the AFC North Champ. Harboy said he's coming
Speaker 1: off a very serious injury and he's working at it.
Speaker 1: I think we'll know a lot more Wednesday, James Harrison
Speaker 1: and Uh James Harrison had some interesting thoughts on lamar
Speaker 1: snoop hunting debate. Let's take a listen to what Deebo
Speaker 1: had to say on he De Boy and Joe early
Speaker 1: this morning.
Speaker 6: Right now, I hope Lamar comes back, bro because I
Speaker 6: wouldn't right, you right want him him because the Hunt
Speaker 6: League can get a gear right now that Lamar Jackson
Speaker 6: can't get to or is afraid to get to because
Speaker 6: he's gonna pull something. And I also think that with
Speaker 6: Lamar in there, we gonna have a better chance of
Speaker 6: winning simply because the Ravens, I feel, would be stupid
Speaker 6: enough not to give Derrick Henry the ball thirty five
Speaker 6: to forty two.
Speaker 4: Ah, I like what he said. I like what he said.
Speaker 2: Oh, you like what he said. But when I said
Speaker 2: that last thought you.
Speaker 4: I like what he said, but that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4: What's the first thing I said, Lamar? If Lamar is healthy,
Speaker 4: he's gonna play.
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, nobody's healthy this time of the season, right,
Speaker 5: Lamar has a back in tusion with that need that
Speaker 5: went to his back, right, So whatever he's to do,
Speaker 5: he's playing his last game. Who gives him the best
Speaker 5: chance to win having Lamar Jackson a quarterback. If Lamar
Speaker 5: Jackson plays right, and then you have to worry about
Speaker 5: the threat of Derrick Henry as well, and you have
Speaker 5: to worry about the threat of Lamar Jackson and his legs,
Speaker 5: even if it's Lamar Jackson as seventy percent. He still
Speaker 5: can be efficient and do things that other quarterbacks can't do.
Speaker 5: I think it's it's okay use that for him, because
Speaker 5: you know Lamar is hurt.
Speaker 4: What do you do?
Speaker 5: We're going to put the onus of the offense on
Speaker 5: Derrek Henry's shoulders instead of Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: I mean as but if that's the case, why not
Speaker 1: go with it? Why not go with a healthy guy?
Speaker 1: Give me, give me Lamar. Since he's been back his
Speaker 1: rush totals because he's he's running for a career low.
Speaker 1: He was averaging fifty plus yards a game.
Speaker 5: You do have to understand Lamar. Lamar is a throw
Speaker 5: a throw first quarterback. Now he's not just dropping back.
Speaker 5: Oh my first read or my first reading out there.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried. I'm not worried about it. I'm not
Speaker 1: I wanted a digression and lame mess your question. As
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, you're more concerned about his arms or
Speaker 1: his legs.
Speaker 4: Both because it improved Hell as a passer. He just
Speaker 4: threw for forty one five last year. What are we
Speaker 4: talking about?
Speaker 1: I'm just ocho. I'm just saying I'm more concerned about
Speaker 1: his legs.
Speaker 5: Because he's a threat there as well. But this is
Speaker 5: the same quarterback that just threw for forty one touchdowns
Speaker 5: and five as Yes, he had Aaron Rodgers and Prive numbers.
Speaker 1: Okay, in twelve Stars this year, Lamar Jackson is six
Speaker 1: and six. He's thrown for less than one hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety three yards per game, which ranks twenty fourth among
Speaker 1: quarterbacks with at least ten games played. His three hundred
Speaker 1: and forty yards rushing is a career low. And filling
Speaker 1: in for Jackson, Huntley has won both of his starts,
Speaker 1: beating the playoffs Chicago Bears and the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1: In those starts, Huntley has completed seventy nine percent of
Speaker 1: his passes, two hundred and ninety three yards, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no interceptions. He's also run four hundred and thirteen yards
Speaker 1: and two starts.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: Now, one guy in twelve starts have a three hundred
Speaker 1: and forty yards rushing, another guy in two starts have
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirteen yards rushing, and he ain't beat
Speaker 1: no pushovers. Because I know what you want to say
Speaker 1: in chat. I know y'all want to say, are the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears any good?
Speaker 4: Are they good? They are great?
Speaker 2: No, I'm just.
Speaker 4: They are great this year.
Speaker 1: So I'm just it's a it's a rhetorded question, though, Joe,
Speaker 1: he ain't for you to answer them. So, hey, Chad,
Speaker 1: are the Bears any good? Or do we think the
Speaker 1: Green bat packers?
Speaker 2: An? That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: O Joe, I'm looking at it like since he's been back,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's afraid. And I think he's
Speaker 1: afraid to run on Joe because he knows that hamstring
Speaker 1: is not one hundred percent. And the last Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: you know, when you got a hamstring, you ain't finna
Speaker 1: open up. I don't give damn what nobody say. Anybody
Speaker 1: say you're gonna open up when you got some tweak
Speaker 1: has never had anything to ye because if you had
Speaker 1: a tweet, ah nah Son, hey son, you got to
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 2: Bro, this is all I got. Ain't no getting Uh.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be Look, it's gonna be very interesting
Speaker 1: to see. And I think the thing is the biggest thing. Look,
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to save us for ourselves, Goto, because
Speaker 1: like you say, we play football, we want to play.
Speaker 1: We want to play that's in us. I want to
Speaker 1: be there for my guys. But I think Lamar's gonna
Speaker 1: have to be honest with himself. Can I I if
Speaker 1: the rubber needs to meet the road and I need
Speaker 1: and I need to open up, will I be able
Speaker 1: to open it up?
Speaker 2: See?
Speaker 1: Oh joe, But they used to have the thing chat
Speaker 1: anybody that's my age. You're a little older, you know,
Speaker 1: they used to have a stock like in your car.
Speaker 1: Oh yo, you can only master the pedal down so
Speaker 1: far before it was Yeah, you do you want all
Speaker 1: the now so far before? Stop on, Joe. But you
Speaker 1: know we got slick. We take it out. Hey, So
Speaker 1: that's the question. Because they only wanted the car to
Speaker 1: go so fast. That's also why they got that little
Speaker 1: mechanism right there, oh joe, where the car hit that
Speaker 1: far as it goes as far as it goes right there?
Speaker 2: But see, then guess what they say. You know what?
Speaker 1: They want to go faster. I want something to run
Speaker 1: out of numbers. I don't know where it stop, go
Speaker 1: back right, go back round the team.
Speaker 4: Be t uh, Hey, I all that. Oh that's a
Speaker 4: tough way. That's tough.
Speaker 1: But that's why you that's why you're the head coach.
Speaker 1: That's why you make the decisions. You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: assess this in practice. You have to look at him
Speaker 1: in practice on Joe and see. And it's hard because
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Want to wait.
Speaker 1: When I go to the Jim Mojo, I don't really
Speaker 1: be doing no warming up them reps count. I go
Speaker 1: in the gym and get right up onto something and
Speaker 1: start lifting. Jordan take by forty five minutes to warm up.
Speaker 1: I said, Man, them reps they count. I got like
Speaker 1: sixty reps in me. If I warm up a twinty,
Speaker 1: I got forty reps. I ain't doing all the No,
Speaker 1: I'm good to go. I get in there, Hey, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Get you paid. So that's the thing is, O Joe,
Speaker 1: I don't want them to do anything that that a
Speaker 1: jeopardizer or aggravated or irritate. Aggravate means to work, make worse,
Speaker 1: irritate means to bother. I just don't like a gnat
Speaker 1: like a fly, O Joe, that bothers them fly. They
Speaker 1: don't make things worth. Ain't nothing gonna be?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't.
Speaker 5: I don't like the discourses with Lamar having it down here,
Speaker 5: having injuries to deal with and now we help stay
Speaker 5: out of you know, the facility in the organization and
Speaker 5: about trading and just stuff like that. It just it
Speaker 5: just shouldn't come about because you would never hear anything
Speaker 5: like that about Patrick Mahomes. You never hear anything like
Speaker 5: that about Joe Burrow, Josh any of these other top
Speaker 5: top tier quarterbacks like La Jackson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you see Josh, what didn't Josh get that money?
Speaker 1: You see, Josh got his money because remember they said
Speaker 1: they was gonna take care of this Lamar don't need
Speaker 1: to worry about anything. So I don't know if that
Speaker 1: was in the back of his mind or Joe he
Speaker 1: saw what Josh Allen got. Josh Allen got paid, got
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty five million, fully guaranteed three hundred
Speaker 1: and three you know, guarante, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1: With Joe, And I don't know if that maybe that
Speaker 1: was in the back of his mind, maybe like, oh, bro,
Speaker 1: y'all told me, y'all gonna take care of me.
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna be in this situation. But yet ye.
Speaker 5: And it's the thing about it, if you don't want
Speaker 5: to take care of him, go ahead and let him go.
Speaker 5: Somebody else will play play Clay, play stupid games, win
Speaker 5: stupid prizes.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, So we're going to find out. We'll we'll
Speaker 1: know more. Tomorrow is an off day, nobody really doing
Speaker 1: anything then. But as Wednesday and Thursday, we'll see how
Speaker 1: he's progressing. They'll start saying Lamark. You know, they're probably
Speaker 1: not gonna have Lamar do a whole lot while practice
Speaker 1: is open, the media is there. They normally come the
Speaker 1: first fifteen minutes of an open practice and then they
Speaker 1: have to get out of there, so they won't The
Speaker 1: media will not have a really good indication of what's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 2: But we'll see Friday and as the week.
Speaker 1: As it wanes down later in the week, as it
Speaker 1: moves closer to Sunday, we'll see what they're saying.
Speaker 4: Damn Man.
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter estimate the Steelers Ravens upcoming NFL season finale
Speaker 1: will have a border a broader implication on John Harbar
Speaker 1: and Mike Tomlin's job security. Schefter said today, somebody's going
Speaker 1: to lose that game, and somebody's going to lose. And
Speaker 1: when somebody loses that game, we heard the Steeler fans
Speaker 1: channing fire Mike Tomas Earlier this year, we've heard Ravens
Speaker 1: fans saying they could should be a conversation about John
Speaker 1: Harbaugh after the season. One of those fan bases is
Speaker 1: going to be unhappy. Sheefter says in the realm of
Speaker 1: possibility that Mike Tomlin leaves the Stealer where they lost
Speaker 1: on Sunday and goals does TV next season or coaching
Speaker 1: somewhere else in twenty twenty six, Oh, Joe me, I
Speaker 1: don't see a scenario in which Mike Tomlin leaves and
Speaker 1: goes into TV. But what do you think is gonna happen?
Speaker 1: What like, like you said, somebody gotta.
Speaker 5: Lose, somebody has to lose. Honestly, on I don't see
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin. One thing the Seedlers have never done. The
Speaker 5: Steelers have never fired anybody. They've never fired anybody, if I'm.
Speaker 2: Not well, not anybody since nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 5: And I don't think it's gonna happen now. It's never
Speaker 5: been a part of what they do. I just now
Speaker 5: Harball on the other instance, I mean, are the are
Speaker 5: the Ravens closer to winning with Harball at the helm?
Speaker 5: Do they need another voice? You always say in that
Speaker 5: building may maybe so, I'm not sure how they feel
Speaker 5: about them. There's so many different things that need to
Speaker 5: go go right for the Ravens now for them to
Speaker 5: get back in contention and be able to compete, you know,
Speaker 5: for the Lombardi no year in a year out the
Speaker 5: one they gotta.
Speaker 4: You gotta get your quarterback situation right.
Speaker 2: I don't think either. I don't think either is close.
Speaker 5: But listen, well, changing coaches put you further behind the ball.
Speaker 5: It don't put you no closer. You take, tear it
Speaker 5: down and build it back up.
Speaker 2: That makes your question, did it uh move Chicago closer?
Speaker 2: For other way?
Speaker 4: What do they have in place? What's the one important
Speaker 4: piece of every team?
Speaker 2: You say they got Lamar Jackson, you say they got
Speaker 2: it what they need?
Speaker 4: What? Damn?
Speaker 2: I need you to make up your mind. Either Lamar
Speaker 2: is that or he is Yes, he is that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So the quarterback is going to do what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. Coaching, we don't move, okay.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, change and changing the coaching well hell coaching.
Speaker 5: Harvard don't play defense, he don't play dB and he
Speaker 5: definitely ain't no defense in.
Speaker 2: Y'all. You know what?
Speaker 4: You know what pieces your team need to be able
Speaker 4: to compete, and they don't have it right now. They
Speaker 4: just don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think either team is close, And I don't
Speaker 1: think either team is close with the coaches that they have.
Speaker 4: How about this, What do you think about Brian Floyd
Speaker 4: is coming up coming to Baltimore?
Speaker 2: Who is gonna be as oc do I think? I? Look?
Speaker 1: I me personally, they need personnel. They need better personnel
Speaker 1: on defense. They need they need a right guard, but
Speaker 1: they need defense at the end. Yang could they use
Speaker 1: another receiver?
Speaker 2: Yeah? They need big.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what what what happened with
Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman this year? He is a bigger receiver. Uh,
Speaker 1: but they need they need a big receiver. Watch Kansas
Speaker 1: City gonna go get a big receiver.
Speaker 4: God damn Candy City got a slew of them boys
Speaker 4: over there.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 4: I mean we I mean we talked about she Rice
Speaker 4: last year like he was the second coming.
Speaker 1: Ain't got a huge catch radius? When you got guys
Speaker 1: five eight, five, nine, five ten on your how big
Speaker 1: is the catch radios?
Speaker 4: Right? He tall?
Speaker 6: Ain't he?
Speaker 4: I thought he was like six four six five.
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm but you know on TV, I ain't never
Speaker 4: seen him in person?
Speaker 2: Boy, how tall? Right? Six foot?
Speaker 4: He looked tall as hell on TV.
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't look tall to me. They said he's
Speaker 2: sixty one.
Speaker 4: Okay, so he uh he?
Speaker 2: But how tall is Hollywood? Okay?
Speaker 4: Hollywood short?
Speaker 2: They short?
Speaker 4: I mean I see them all the time. They from
Speaker 4: the crib.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm how tall? How tall is h Yuju? Is Juju?
Speaker 2: Six foot tall?
Speaker 4: Juju not tall either?
Speaker 2: The Juju six one?
Speaker 4: Shoot, I'm six four. They could bring me back.
Speaker 2: I think I might be able to run Juju though.
Speaker 4: Juju never a burner unt burner.
Speaker 2: So if he wasn't a burner eight years ago, how
Speaker 2: fast is he now?
Speaker 4: A little bit slower, a tad bit. He might not
Speaker 4: know it?
Speaker 2: Oh he knows it.
Speaker 5: You know, Hey, a A these team need a weapon. Man,
Speaker 5: I'm always available. I'm always available.
Speaker 1: I look at it like this here, Oh Joe, If
Speaker 1: a team can five Bill Belachack with six Super Bowls
Speaker 1: and ten Super Bowl appearances, guy, dang, they can five
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and John that.
Speaker 4: When listen, when you when you use that analogy.
Speaker 5: Perspective, you know, for for better context, that's that's that's
Speaker 5: a possibility.
Speaker 4: But you gonna understand.
Speaker 5: What message are you sending your team, your players, and
Speaker 5: your fans when you say, you know what, we're letting
Speaker 5: Harball go, We're letting Mike Tomin go, We're starting all
Speaker 5: of it from scratch.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this when you throw, we throw
Speaker 1: furniture and putting new furniture in, and what messages you sinding?
Speaker 4: Well, you ain't got the good you ain't got the
Speaker 4: furniture to bring in. How about that got what you
Speaker 4: mean what furniture're gonna bring in?
Speaker 2: A new coach's furniture?
Speaker 4: Damn you you got new furniture. We still got the
Speaker 4: same people sitting on it. What's ship?
Speaker 2: What's gonna be the difference?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You the same people when your grandma got new,
Speaker 1: got a new catch it got the old count your stack, yo,
Speaker 1: You and Chouncey was still had your ass hold the couch.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, hey, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5: Like all Jesus side, the Ravens organization, the Steelers organization,
Speaker 5: they have some tough decisions to make.
Speaker 4: I'm very very very tough ones.
Speaker 5: And and and honestly, for me, the fact that the
Speaker 5: way Lamar is being done because he's had this one
Speaker 5: injury see this one injury prone season and the stuff
Speaker 5: coming out about him that we knew nothing about, and
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, people that are not in that building,
Speaker 5: they all of a sudden know about It means just
Speaker 5: coming from inside the house, you know.
Speaker 4: So you know at that point, I I would much.
Speaker 5: Rather him have new scenery, go somewhere else, and and
Speaker 5: and and start and start over.
Speaker 2: I give a prime example, look at Andy Reid.
Speaker 4: They fired Andy.
Speaker 1: He went to Kansas City. Now he's the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Now you can make a case that he's a top
Speaker 1: five coaching in the game. Jeffrey Lourie had to say,
Speaker 1: you know what, you was taking us as.
Speaker 2: Far as we can go.
Speaker 1: Maybe Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh is taking these teems
Speaker 1: as far as they can take them. Maybe it's somebody
Speaker 1: else need to navigate.
Speaker 2: And that's okay.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're bad coaches, but maybe it's just
Speaker 1: time for a different voice to be heard in the
Speaker 1: locker room.
Speaker 4: Damn, hey, ye, that time for a new voice.
Speaker 2: Outlier.
Speaker 1: Everybody's outlined. So what what was Tom Brady? Tom Brady
Speaker 1: with he's an outlier. Let me get this right. Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning he's an outlier. Of course they're outliers.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying, so what you just hold so.
Speaker 2: You just hold on to him.
Speaker 1: I guess it sounds good. Though Mike Tomlin has never
Speaker 1: had a losing season. I thought the job was the win.
Speaker 1: I thought the job was to win and win championships.
Speaker 1: So in the last decade, how close have the Steelers
Speaker 1: come to winning a championship?
Speaker 2: Realistically?
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, making the playoffs just because you make
Speaker 1: the player come on, because they've been They've lost the
Speaker 1: first round every time in the last decade. So realistically,
Speaker 1: how close have they been? I'm waiting on you Steeler fans.
Speaker 1: I know y'all black and yellow and all that, the
Speaker 1: terrible towels. How close Stealer fans? Realistically in the last
Speaker 1: decade have you been to winning a championship?
Speaker 4: You know you got affiliation over there in Baltimore? Huh
Speaker 4: you played that you want to ring there? You know
Speaker 4: what that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I'm realistic.
Speaker 5: I was realistic with the prom I don't even see
Speaker 5: why I'm going with it though. That opportunity for you know,
Speaker 5: a head, can you imagine that?
Speaker 4: Coach shark, no coach shark.
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want no part I
Speaker 1: like talking about football. I don't want to look at
Speaker 1: those tape. I don't want to look at tape and
Speaker 1: try to evaluate players and bring players in and none
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 2: You know that, you know, I got my time.
Speaker 4: Exactly what you're looking for?
Speaker 2: You know what you do.
Speaker 4: You don't be the perfect person for the job. And
Speaker 4: that's that's the problem.
Speaker 2: God, is what I looking for? You something about five
Speaker 2: five seven five?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I mean that's what I'm trying to evaluate. I mean,
Speaker 1: see see you saying I know what I'm looking for.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, goody.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay? How many? How many do they?
Speaker 5: How long before your approbation? You know, I gotturday thirty?
Speaker 2: Are you good?
Speaker 4: You good?
Speaker 2: You good?
Speaker 4: You good?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 5: But I listen, I'm first one on board, Lamar. I
Speaker 5: know shit, Lamar might be watching honestly, all hey, it's
Speaker 5: so funny. All them all them boys be tuned in.
Speaker 5: Uh and they don't even but they don't. They don't
Speaker 5: type nothing in the in the chat. They be tuned in.
Speaker 2: Oh yo, insane. Statord Steelers are winners O four and
Speaker 2: one of the last.
Speaker 1: Five games versus teams entering with eight plus games below
Speaker 1: five hundred times, the longest streak in NFL history, and
Speaker 1: twenty two they lost.
Speaker 2: Excuse me.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, they lost to the Bengals, who were
Speaker 1: two ten and one. In twenty one, they tied the
Speaker 1: o and eight Lions. In twenty twenty three, they lost
Speaker 1: to the two and ten Cardinals. In twenty three, they
Speaker 1: lost to the two in ten Patriots. In twenty five,
Speaker 1: they lost to the three and twelve Browns.
Speaker 4: Hey you think Sterling want to coach? What?
Speaker 2: No, bro, I can't get it to come on once
Speaker 2: a month, he tell my coach.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, Hey, you're a brilliant mind when it
Speaker 5: comes to the game, and I'm telling you are probably
Speaker 5: what not only the NFL needs, but the players in
Speaker 5: today's game need. Even the players it's a different era,
Speaker 5: but you coming in with those your old ways and
Speaker 5: mixing that and balancing it in moderation, allowing them to
Speaker 5: have a little structural discipline.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, I'm telling you.
Speaker 5: You keep denying, You keep denying God's calling, and that's
Speaker 5: the problem. Yeah, I come be your assistant.
Speaker 2: Now. I'm good. Mm hmm. I don't watch enough tape
Speaker 2: as it is. I don't.
Speaker 1: I ain't got time for guys to come and be
Speaker 1: coming in late. Because I don't, I don't do the
Speaker 1: excuse thing.
Speaker 7: They were not gonna come in late with you. That's
Speaker 7: what I'm trying to make. I fake the figure because
Speaker 7: I had to learn. I had to learn with Club
Speaker 7: Shay Shay. Because you know, I'm thinking the interview. They
Speaker 7: say one o'clock, they say twelve o'clock. Okay, twelve o'clock
Speaker 7: we're starting. We're starting twelve fifteen, twelve thirty one, one thirty.
Speaker 5: You know two olock famous people. They famous people will
Speaker 5: be on their own time. They ain't got no regard
Speaker 5: for nobody else time.
Speaker 2: They're the one that set the time up. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: how you set the time up in.
Speaker 5: Late head make up and all that. You notice when
Speaker 5: we did our club Cha Shae, You notice I was
Speaker 5: there thirty forty minutes early. I wouldn't go quite thirty
Speaker 5: forty minute early, but you were, you were, You were thirty.
Speaker 4: Forty minutes early because I was outside smoking a cigar.
Speaker 4: I beat you there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said it was gonna be at one o'clock.
Speaker 1: I got there twelve forty five, and I
Speaker 5: Got there twelve ten because I knew I wanted to
Speaker 5: smoke and drink my coffee outside and see, I'll be
Speaker 5: on I be on time, like my God on time.