1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome in another beautiful Sunday morning, Fox Sports Sunday, 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: Here live from the Fox Sports Radio studios in Southern California. 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: We've got soccer already up and going between the EBL. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: We got l Classico and three goals from Killing and Buppe, 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: a potential handball review, lots of chaos. NBA playoffs continue, 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: NHL Playoffs with a point four remaining review. 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: And a goal. 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: Does it save the night? No, but for one night 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: they keep things going. Major League Baseball flowing. The Rockies 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: are actually worse than my White Sox historic twenty twenty 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: four campaign. So all of that and then some. And 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 2: my guy Dan Byer is here with me. Hi, I'm 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: Mike Carmon. Welcome in another couple hours here with us 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: this morning. So much to get to. NFL trades, retirements, 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: NBA playoffs, and Mother's Day. 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: Happy Mother's Day. Tell the mom out there, My mom 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: included my wife as well. Hope everybody is enjoying and 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: treating their mothers. Well, oh you. 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: Wanted to say treat your mother right? I got that 21 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: Mister J's song in your head. 22 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well well here there was there was 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: a pause. I didn't want didn't want to copywriters Deal 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: from Anybody. 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty four, A classic when the rock and wrestling 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: connection and on the road put it into. 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: My head early today. 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: Well that's it, though, it becomes an earworm because that 29 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: will never leave your head. Now, we'll hear that a 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,639 Speaker 2: little bit later on as we go gues. Happy Mother's 31 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 2: Day to all the serve that very widely defined role 32 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: across this world. I'm still blessed to have my mom 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: down in Florida. I got. I woke up to a 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: couple of text messages from her. It just generally does 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: not happen unless say, I haven't heard from you, where 36 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: the hell are you? Kind of thing. This was, you know, sweet, 37 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: my younger brother had made the trip down and we'd 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: sign some cards, and you know, you get sappy and 39 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: you start because here's the here's the trick they're now doing, right. 40 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 2: You get good cover art on these nine dollars cards, 41 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: because that's the other thing get. You get a thing 42 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: of pencil, you know, colored pencils and markers, and even 43 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: if you can't draw worth anything save yourself, to nine dollars, 44 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 2: it's a lot. It's a lot. Like I think my 45 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: older brother picked out a car that was like sixteen 46 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: bucks and we looked at each other's like there's no way, 47 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: just no way that that's an extra sandwich that that 48 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: someone's not eaten. But the trick now is you open 49 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: up the car and like you either it goes one 50 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: way or the other. You've got pros that goes on 51 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: for days like they're they're Charles Dickens writing, you know, 52 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: the episodic thing to keep the money flowing in, or 53 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: it's a blank slate. 54 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: There is there is no happy medium, right, It's mom, 55 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: Happy Mother's Day, inside, Happy Mother's Day, and that's it. 56 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: That's one end of the spectrum. And then you said 57 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: it's a novel in some other parts. 58 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: Mike, I'm reading this like, I don't know. That third 59 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: paragraph gets a little odd, so you get that out. 60 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: But all that to say, happy Mother's Day, brunches and 61 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: lunches and barbecues and whatever else you're doing, if you're 62 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: all to celebrate with those that are with you there 63 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: at fantastic times for those missing their moms. We'll try 64 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: to allay some of that today with some laughter, some 65 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: information and I'll as always, we just tell you, you know, 66 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: keep those phone lines, heat it up and make those 67 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: calls to your people in your life. All right, as 68 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: we get going, Dan, you know, the NBA playoffs have 69 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 2: been a fantastic topsy turvy world right on a night 70 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: to night basis. We've gone back to something I think 71 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: maybe fifteen years ago. I had this process whereby I 72 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: would figure out, all right, notify me when there's about 73 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: five minutes left, and I'll dial up here. You want 74 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: to see the roller coaster, because back then it was 75 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: all right, is it close late? Here we're getting some 76 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: of that, but you're getting some giant twenty twenty five 77 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: point swings in the interim, right blowout for two and 78 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: a half quarters, and then massive comebacks, and it's just 79 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: been just kind of an odd pacing. We used to 80 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: see that in college basketball a lot, right, where you'd 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: get the old momentum runs and all those kind of things, 82 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: whereas with the NBA we're seeing more of it. But 83 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 2: because of some of these early round gaffs, some early 84 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: round inequities and lack of stellar play, we've got intriguing 85 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: series across the board. Right home teams losing what they 86 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: had six straight before that finally got snapped here in 87 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: the second round, which makes for a lot of anxiety, 88 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: but a lot of interest because you're seeing the TV ratings, whatever, 89 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: the Q rating, in terms of articles written, social media engagement, 90 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: all of that bounces up because everybody's got an eyebrow 91 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: raise because game to game, you don't have any idea 92 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 2: what you're getting, much like the old box of chocolates 93 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: from Forrest Gump. 94 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: Well, I would say fifteen years ago, I would say 95 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: ten years ago. I'd actually say probably eight even eight 96 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: years ago, we knew exactly what we were getting, and 97 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: that was a problem for me in the NBA and 98 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: Mike it's actually been a problem for the last forty years, 99 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: and at least in my mind. Others may not feel 100 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: that way. But to your point about we see this 101 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: sort of stuff in college, we don't necessarily see it 102 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: in the NBA, I also think that that's a good 103 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: thing because it's a bit of a representation of the 104 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: level of basketball that we have now. In saying that 105 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics of last year, or the Denver Nuggets 106 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: of the year before, or even the Golden State Warriors 107 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: of the year prior were some of the worst NBA 108 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: champions that we've had, which I think that we could 109 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: say that I have no problem saying that. What it 110 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: has also done is delivered us a basketball product that 111 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: is unpredictable over these two months of NBA playoffs, And 112 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: it dawned on me recently and watching those Nick Celtics 113 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: games of the first two games of the series, of 114 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: how we freshing it was even yesterday with the Celtics 115 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: up so much, you're still saying, well, maybe the nixt 116 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: seven other one in them. We've saw it the first 117 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: two games. Why wouldn't it happen again? 118 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: Suddenly the three point shots don't fall and we get 119 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: back to it. Sure basics, Yeah. 120 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: But when I just vividly remember in the last two 121 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: finals that the Warriors ended up going to with Kevin 122 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: Durant obviously with the Raptors, but the one before against 123 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: the Raptors, but the one before that against the Cavaliers, 124 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: and the one in twenty seventeen. Prior to that, we 125 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: were just biding our time for another Cavaliers Warriors. 126 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 2: Well, but that was the thing right before the season, 127 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: Like we had a running joke in our other studio 128 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: like down the hallway was our original studio. We've moved 129 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 2: into these nice places, big lights, lots of tds. We 130 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: had a whiteboard and we would joke, jokingly do it 131 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: on the night of the first day of the NBA. 132 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: It's like, how many teams could be in the finals? 133 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: All right, Well, you gotta put a second team with 134 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: the Cavs. You just can't write Cavaliers on the Eastern 135 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 2: Conference side. And then you had the Warriors and maybe 136 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: you pock on yeah, whatever the team was on that 137 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: given year, but that was it. Like you were playing 138 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: from a four team because you were forcing that four 139 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: team in because someone had to play in the Eastern 140 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: Conference finals. But otherwise, like unless you had a bunch 141 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: of injuries and just ill timed, ill faded issues, it 142 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: seemed fata complete. And this year, while we had three 143 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 2: teams that ran away and hid in the regular season, 144 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: I think we've all come to realize regular season half 145 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: the teams don't play to win the regular season, right, 146 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: It's how do I get to mid April feeling like 147 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: we got some semblance of consistency on both ends of 148 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: the court. Oh, and to have all our guys healthy. 149 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think there's a there's a point 150 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: now in the in the season where you need to 151 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: start playing well in mid March and and maybe end 152 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: of February mid March to ride some of that momentum 153 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: into the playoffs starting in mid April. But I think 154 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: that what we've seen is we may have seen the 155 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: level of team go down in the NBA a notch, 156 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: but I think that's what's added to it. This NBA 157 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: that we know was led by Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, 158 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: then Michael Jordan, then Shaq, then Kobe, then Lebron and 159 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, all of those names, and those 160 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: have been the top pillar names that we've had, and 161 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: we expected to see those faces in the NBA finals. 162 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: We saw it for Lebron for almost a decade. I 163 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: mean every single year Lebron's in an NBA finals. And 164 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: to your point, we're not that we're stretching to find 165 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: three or four teams. But yeah, there was the Rockets, 166 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah there was the Thunder, but we were basically planning 167 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: for a Warriors Cavs final, and it made the playoffs 168 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: pretty uninteresting. And even if the Western Conference finals were 169 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: interesting at that point, it still took us seemingly five 170 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: weeks to get there, right through the first two rounds 171 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: of the playoffs. Now we have a scenario where again 172 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: I don't know who's good. I don't know if any 173 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: of these teams are great in the NBA playoffs, but 174 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: Doug Garnnett, they've given us great games and great storylines throughout. 175 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: So when you're talking about a twenty five point lead 176 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: by a team or a twenty point lead, yeah, right now, 177 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: these teams aren't perfect. We see seven point leads with 178 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: a minute to go in the games and teams completely 179 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: fall apart. There is something dramatic to that, and I 180 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: think it's made the NBA playoffs better. I don't think 181 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: these teams are great, but for my entire lifetime and 182 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: your entire lifetime, we've been told the NBA has to 183 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: be run by superpowers, and I think we now see 184 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: really what Parody is doing, and Parody is providing us 185 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: drama in April and May that we hadn't had for 186 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: a long time. 187 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: Now for giggles, I went back a decade. Right, So 188 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: this ends in the Warriors Cavaliers four games to two finals, 189 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: first round to one, a four to three four to one, 190 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 2: four to one, sweep, sweep, four two, four to two, 191 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: second round four to three, four two four two for two, 192 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: and then the conference finals were for to one and 193 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: a suite. To your point, right, not a lot of competition. 194 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: You have to go back game to game and see 195 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: exactly how the series flowed, right, the giveaway games and 196 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: all of those kinds of things. But to your point is, 197 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: you know, even in Cleveland and Oklahoma City, it might 198 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: have seemed in the moment the well week ish our 199 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: argument about hey, they haven't been here before, But championship 200 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: metal does matter, right, the ability to close out games. 201 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: We're watching it time and again, and it's a great 202 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 2: reminder for all of. 203 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: You at your jobs. 204 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: Whatever you do, however you do it from pillar to post, 205 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: all the way across the globe on the iHeartRadio app, 206 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: not everybody always knows what the hell they're doing in 207 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: a position of power. Because how many coaching gaffs do 208 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: you spot on a daily basis, like losing seven point 209 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: leads in the final forty seconds or games, you know, 210 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: putting your right person on on so when you get fouled, 211 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: you don't have a guy that's a fifty two sent 212 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 2: foul shooter getting sent something. 213 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: As simple as Mark Dagnall and the Thunder fouling Aaron 214 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: Gordon way too early on an inbounds play where in 215 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: game one, where like like that minor decision instead of 216 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: letting some time run off the clock and then fouling 217 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: them because you're up three in that scenario, like they 218 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: fouled way too early. And I don't feel like we 219 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: were breaking down like these scenarios in those cases because 220 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: maybe the games weren't closed. Maybe these things that we 221 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: were that were hanging in the balance really weren't because 222 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: we knew the ultimate outcome. But that decision in game 223 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: one could ultimately cost the Thunder the series, as now 224 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: they sit there down to one and I think that 225 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 1: I think that's great for the NBA playoffs, and it's 226 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: something that we've been told for forty years. The NBA 227 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: has run on stars and big brands, and now over 228 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, we've seen it run on parody. 229 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: And I'm not mad about it. I can't be mad 230 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: about it. Twenty seventeen, Mike, that year, the Warriors lost 231 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: one game in the playoffs, and it was in the 232 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: NBA Finals. Thos who was sweep sweep, sweep Cavaliers, you know, 233 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: march through it in that same year. What drama is 234 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: there in that twenty seventeen Kevin Durant leaving for the 235 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: Warriors may have been the low point of the NBA 236 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: in the history because of how bad it took away 237 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: for the playoffs. But now we see these great games. 238 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: As you said, now a team's up twenty you know what, 239 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: I may stick around and see this because they could 240 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: actually blow it. 241 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: But it's the tough thing, right, because we love dominance 242 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: on one side, right, because we all a lot of 243 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: sports celebradio yep, sports media is, let's celebrate greatness. Let's 244 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: celebrate dominance. 245 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: Right. 246 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: Me, being a Chicago guy, I go back on Friday 247 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: and the I'm at the White Sox game against the Marlins. Yes, 248 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: I went to see a White Sox Marlins game. And 249 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: they're wearing those City connect uniforms that bridge the bulls 250 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: in the White Sox and up close and personal, it's 251 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: pretty cool. Got a lot of graphics there. It almost 252 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: looks like Cain is coming down to the to the 253 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: ring to our WWE first reference of the day. But 254 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: like just people kind of celebrating that. But it's it's 255 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: that kind of thing of all right, this is different. 256 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: But going back to those Bulls teams, because that's where 257 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 2: the conversation is. Chicago's had outliers, right White Sox in 258 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: two thousand and five, which evidently the Pope was at 259 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: the game, which is a whole other thing. Is awesome, well, 260 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: but it's also going into a weird space. Way too 261 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: many people just making T shirts and trying to profit 262 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: off dub Pope. Yeah, I can't fault a good strategy, 263 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: what can I say? But otherwise you got the the 264 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: White Sox, all right, White Sox and O five Cubs 265 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, the team that was supposed to be, 266 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: you know, this juggernaut. They had their one year, they 267 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: got there and then they move off the Blackhawks. You 268 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: go back to a couple of years against the Kings 269 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: and some great battles, but otherwise you're going all the 270 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: way back to the Bulls. Jordan in ninety eight, and 271 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 2: obviously I was on the right side of it in terms. 272 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: Of, yeah, win every year. 273 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: Go For the rest of the NBA, it was it's 274 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: the bullsy end, correct, right, So for a decade we 275 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: celebrate greatness on one hand, but that's like the void 276 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: because you know, they got that laundry list of guys 277 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: and they never want a title because of that guy. Right, 278 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: A whole generation of stars never got their moment on 279 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: the dais because of those bulls teams. And but now 280 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: we've got a whole cadre of stars that have a chance, 281 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: yes to take those next steps. 282 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: Who's going to do it? We don't know. We don't 283 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: know if it's going to be Anthony Edwards, who was 284 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: magnificent last night in the third quarter, in the second 285 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: half of the Minnesota tim Rowolves, like there was like 286 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: it's it could be his stage. SGA now has an 287 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: opportunity to try to turn things around and what is 288 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: likely the MVP season. Can Jokic do it again? There's 289 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: a lot of questions. Will Steph come back and play 290 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: the hero with the Celtics rebound? Will it be the 291 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson, Joe Hyre's Halliburton. I Like there's there's all 292 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: of these storylines that are still alive that could come 293 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: to fruition, and that didn't happen in the NBA ten 294 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: years ago, didn't happen thirty years ago, there were almost 295 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: predetermined outcomes, predestined outcomes because of how the NBA has 296 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: been built. And what that allowed us to do, Mike 297 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: was to say, guess what, the two thousand Lakers they 298 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't have beaten, the ninety Bulls or the two thousand 299 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: Lakers they would have beaten. You have these arguments because 300 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: now you're going back in generations and arguing no one's 301 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: going to argue any of these teams that win a 302 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: title this year, last year, or the year before are 303 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time, because they're not. They do 304 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: not measure up by any means. Maybe for Golden Stated 305 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: ads to the fourth but you could say maybe it 306 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: was the weakest of their titles. But in saying all 307 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: of that, and how we look at history again, how 308 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: great has this first month been of the NBA playoffs? 309 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: And my team got ousted in five games in the 310 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: first round and I've still been able to enjoy it. 311 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: So there's not even a bias of my team doing well. 312 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: Your team isn't even in the eighteen bracket, no offense, 313 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: but there's no reason for you to all of a 314 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: sudden fall in love with how this is the unknown 315 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: of the NBA has been what's been so great about 316 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: this last month? Last night, maybe Butler and Kaminga can 317 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: pull it off. Guess what Anthony Edwards not out of 318 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: his mind, but darn good last night ends up. Julius 319 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: Randall great for Minnesota. Guess what Timberwolves now up to one. 320 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: We'll see if the Warriors have a different story, if 321 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: Steph can come back. But all of it's still up 322 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: in the air, and it's I think it's wonderful. 323 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: We'll get back to Jonathan Kaminga because he's either hero 324 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: or goat based on something he did yesterday for you. 325 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: The other thing, this helps all these narratives. You went 326 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: down a laundry list of storylines. You don't have to 327 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: think about where's Giannis going right now? Sure you're still 328 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: thinking about basketball. Yes, I think that's great, and we're 329 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: not talking about Lebron. See there's the one time. I 330 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: don't think we're gonna mention him the rest of the show. 331 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: So it's awesome, I feel in a way. Yeah, and 332 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: it may not again stack up to history, which is 333 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: the way that we've always done it. Mike sixties Celtics, 334 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: you know, eighties Lakers and Celtics, nineties Bulls. I mentioned 335 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: the two thousand Lakers, whatever team Lebron was on in 336 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: the twenty teens, like we stack those teams up to 337 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: other teams. I don't think we're gonna do that in 338 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: the twenty twenties, but for our viewing pleasure, it's it's 339 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: been really good. 340 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: Well, next decade, when you and I are on the 341 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 2: air together, we'll do the other I got worst champions 342 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: of the twenty twenties. He's Dan Byer at Dan Byron Fox. 343 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: Find me over at Swollen Dome. 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Be sure to follow review 373 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: rated five stars, send it to Frank and family. It's 374 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: the gift that keeps on giving again. Search Fox Sports 375 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: Radio wherever you get your podcast. You'll see today's show 376 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: posted right after we get off the air. Now, last 377 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 2: week in Front of a church, a big speech, Derek 378 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 2: Carr walking back and forth, taking his shots at media members, 379 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: taking his shots at the NFL collective and information flowing, etc. 380 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: We thought, okay, there's the off season Derek Carr. Let's 381 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: see what happens as we get ready for what was 382 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: supposed to be his final year in twenty twenty five. 383 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: And then abruptly the week ends and Derek Carr is 384 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: now retired, leaving approximately forty million on the table, but 385 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: he gets ten million back that they're not going to 386 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: chase him down for see Detroit. See he goes back 387 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: to chasing down those signing bonuses. Just let him take 388 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: his money. It's done. But now it opens the void 389 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: as to what the quarterback competition will be. You have 390 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck, who everybody has taken every opportunity, his age 391 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: and all these different metrics to tell you how terrible 392 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: he is. Right now, he's in the one chair. Spencer 393 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 2: Rattler there last year, and then Jay Hayner, your three 394 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 2: man battle barring something unforeseen happening at the quarterback position. 395 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: But immediately he's like, all right, I started ranking. And 396 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 2: while I may not love Derek Carr as a quarterback. 397 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: And that's the other part of this story, which we'll 398 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: get to in a second. Dan is you know, Derek 399 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: carr legacy is always just such a big, grandiose word 400 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: we put on things. But it's like, was he as 401 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: bad as as folks wanted to make him? Or was 402 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: he just pretty good and just not a lead? Right, 403 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: those kind of things. But Chris Alave, Brandon Cooks comes in, 404 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: and then you've got Alvin Kamara, three guys that, for 405 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 2: fantasy purposes, might have had a lave coming back off 406 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: an injury. Co all right, Derek Carr is not brilliant 407 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 2: and he's not going to light up the scoreboard game 408 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: to games, sure, but Chris Alave is really good boom, 409 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 2: all right, He's still going to be a back end 410 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: WR one. Right for Alvin Kamara, we talk about age 411 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: injuries question, but still a two threat back with the 412 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: number of receptions out of the backfield. Still a guy 413 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: probably hey RB backhand RB one, maybe high end RB two, 414 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: depending on your league's settings, depending on how you're going 415 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 2: through your processes. But now all of a sudden that's 416 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 2: cast asunder because it's something we have talked about and 417 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 2: it's the larger conversation because this doesn't just affect the 418 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season. It is something that we're looking 419 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: at quarterbacks for twenty twenty six, and there's that name 420 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: that immediately starts creeping up into the picture. Hasn't played 421 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: a lot of football, hasn't done a lot of other 422 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: but it doesn't matter. Developmental guy. It's kind of like 423 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: an NBA draft pick of hey, we'll teach them here. Yeah, 424 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: and that's arch Manning. 425 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: That's absolutely arch Manning. That's why the conversation of should 426 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: or Sanders going to the Saints, which, by the way, 427 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: when Derek Carr retired, was brought up by some of saying, 428 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: cheez gosh, why don't you tay should or Sanders to 429 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: the point that you're making, well, they took Tyler Shook 430 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: three rounds before should or Sanders win, so that's obviously 431 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: where they wanted to go. But also when you take 432 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: Shook in the second round, you're not fully committed to him. 433 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: And the thing again with arch Manning, and we have 434 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: seen mock drafts come out for twenty twenty six. Some 435 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: will include him, some will not include him. I think 436 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: that you have to include him if the Saints have 437 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: the first overall pick, and I know that there's no 438 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 1: way to do a mock draft and really get the 439 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: order of teams. But Mike, again, we're gonna know, We're 440 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: gonna know where who has the number one pick when 441 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: Arch Manning ultimately makes his decision on whether to stay 442 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: or go. And again with the Manning pedigree, talk about 443 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: should or Sanders and what was the conversation leading up 444 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: to the draft. Though he may not play here, he 445 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: may not play there. We know the Mannings have done 446 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: it before. So if you want to keep Arch in Austin, 447 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: maybe there's a team atop the draft that he doesn't 448 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: want to go to. But if that team is the Saints, 449 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: ready or not, I think Arch goes into the draft, 450 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that they're tanking, but again, I 451 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: think Kellen Moore is there for the long haul. I 452 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: think this is a complete wash fantasy wise. I don't 453 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: see tons of value there. It's likely going to be 454 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: a wasted season for New Orleans. We'll just have to 455 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: find out if the payoff is big enough in the spring. 456 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the curiosity right when we talk about the Mannings. Obviously, 457 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: Eli and Peyton did their full times in college sports. 458 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 2: Now it's a different world. Arch has made a ton 459 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: of money. He's got endorsement deals, he's got his nil money, 460 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: family money. But certainly you look at between his Panini 461 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: nil and whatever else he's got cash. It's now just 462 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: a question of do you do the development of mind? 463 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 2: And we don't know if he's really any good at 464 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: this point. Right, he's got the surname, and he's got glimpses, 465 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: and he's faster than all those other guys. That's what 466 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: we know. But he's got a powerhouse team and the 467 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 2: expectations are what are they preseason number two higher state 468 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: in Texas. The last I looked where the top two squads. 469 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: So if he goes out and performs, then yeah, it fills. 470 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: And it's also a different day and age in terms 471 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: of staying through school. You can always go back get 472 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 2: your degree. You always could do this, Yes, dirty little 473 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: secret that I've been arguing about for years, like if 474 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 2: you really want to go back and sit in a 475 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: classroom or sit in your boxers at your house, it's 476 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 2: never been easier to get a degree. Sure, you can 477 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: go back at any point. 478 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: And the argument on nil is interesting because I think 479 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: it matters to a lot of the players in college football. 480 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: I don't think it matters to arche Manic, right. I 481 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: think that there are decisions Nil had Quinn Yours entering 482 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: the college game sooner than he should have been because 483 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: he couldn't make NIL in high school. So he says, well, 484 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: I'm gonna reclassify, I'll go to Ohio State early and 485 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,479 Speaker 1: now I can make my NIL money. And there may 486 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: have been a rush process. He was could have stuck 487 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: around in Austin or transferred elsewhere, which is likely the 488 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: option if he didn't go into the NFL draft and 489 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: he ends up being a seventh round pick. But there's 490 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: a question where like NL, nil plays a plays a role. 491 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: The flips out of it is Arch doesn't necessarily need ANIL. 492 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: But even if that's one of the main points, if 493 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: you enter now, he is a year closer to getting 494 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: a mega deal as a quarterback if things play out, 495 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: and so I think that that would play in for 496 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: a lot of other quarterbacks. But again I think he's different. 497 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: I think that he they will they will pick their spots, 498 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: they will understand if this works here or there. And 499 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: I just feel if New Orleans is that spot. It 500 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: is a no brainer because of his grandpa, Like that 501 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: is a It is an absolute no brainer's where they're 502 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: all from now because of their grandpa, like it just 503 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: it ends up working out in Mike. I just so 504 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: the Derek Carr retirement is just another step closer to 505 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: arch Manning in my mind, being in New Orleans. 506 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: What I think is also interesting is that it would 507 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: beget a different level. And I alluded to it before 508 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: for the NFL of we've done it a few times 509 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 2: where it's guy's got a very small sample size, right 510 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, not exactly the best data point to jump 511 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: off of, but where you see some of these skills 512 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: and then it's a question of how quickly can you 513 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: learn can you teach him up, coach him up and 514 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: get him to a better spot. Well, clearly it hasn't 515 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: happened at this point. Now you've got competition in Indianapolis. 516 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. But we've always watched the NBA 517 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: Draft and it's always the well, this guy's turned eighteen, 518 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: we think he's going to grow another two inches. We'll 519 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: put twenty pounds a muscle on him, and in three years, 520 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: he'll be ready to be a contributing, rotational guy. Arch 521 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: Manning might be one of the guys that becomes a 522 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: prototype of a new NFL of Hey, we've got a 523 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 2: long build, right, we understand we've got some veterans we 524 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 2: want to make sure we don't give away the final 525 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: years of their career because they've got a couple of 526 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: guys that are long standing members there that I think 527 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: you have to sell them a little bit on this concept, 528 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: or maybe they'll beg to get traded by the trade deadline. 529 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: But the idea that we can draft the guy that 530 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 2: we think with our guy Kellen Moore long term prospect 531 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: that it might take two years, but eventually he's going 532 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: to be that guy. Like I used to argue that 533 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: with Maurice Klerett all those years ago, Right he ripped 534 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 2: up his leg and then you had all the court 535 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 2: stuff and everything else, and he eventually goes down a 536 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: path and is not an NFL guy. I'd had from 537 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,239 Speaker 2: people I trusted a couple of teams that are like, 538 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 2: if we can get get him in here, we don't 539 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: even have to play him, Like he could just be 540 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 2: on the roster, be in our strength room, learn all 541 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: this stuff and eventually be our guy. For arch Manning, 542 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: perhaps there's a little bit of that. It's like developmental 543 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 2: for a year and if he outshines, then great he plays. 544 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: If not, he's our guy and we're able to you know, 545 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 2: lake Wame and build you know, empire with him. 546 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: You're bringing Kirk Cousins for a season if you wanted 547 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: to in twenty twenty six or right. And it means 548 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: that they're also the not committed to Tyler Shook either. 549 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: We've we've seen teams not be committed to guys picked 550 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: in the top ten, let alone in the second round. 551 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: So there isn't There isn't the Only thing that the 552 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: Tyler Shook pick meant was that they just liked him 553 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: better than shoud Or Sanders and Dylan Gabriel and Will 554 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: Howard and Quinnyres and other quarterbacks that were available at 555 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: that time. It wasn't a he is our guy. It's 556 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: just that we liked him better. We found his value 557 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: to be good in the second round. But by no 558 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: means are they absolutely locked in and committed to him. 559 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: If the opportunity presents itself to get a better quarterback 560 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. 561 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: All right, so seventy seven and ninety two for the career, 562 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 2: sixty five percent completion percentage, two hundred and fifty seven 563 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: touchdowns against one hundred and twelve interceptions, the career QBR 564 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: career rating of ninety two point eight at about forty 565 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: two thousand yards. Derek Carr, how would you evaluate? I mean, 566 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: you give him the eight to f what is he 567 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: a B minus? 568 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: I would I would grate him higher because of the 569 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: expectations that came in what was you an early second 570 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: round pick when he was drafted by the Raiders, so 571 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: there were expectations. But again you're not betting the farm 572 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: on them. The the the broken leg in their playoff year, 573 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: I think is the one that's going to to live 574 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: on and be the year. Obviously, he's not going to 575 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I don't think you 576 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: could put him up there with the Raider greats just 577 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: because there have been so many great Raiders. But he 578 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: will be a fan favorite of the Raiders because when 579 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: when have they gotten quarterback play? You know, like that 580 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: outside of a re emergence of rich Gannon late in 581 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: his career thirty years ago. Right, they went and well, 582 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: they went in two thousand three around that time, still 583 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: twenty years get myself another decade. But Mike, it's not 584 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: like they were. They were they were littered with great 585 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacking after Jim Plunkett, you know. So he gets into 586 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: that group like he'll be loved by the Raiders. His 587 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: number obviously is not being retired. But he'll be loved 588 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: by the Raiders, and that's that's good enough because there 589 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: are guys who have given more to their teams that 590 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: maybe aren't recognized as much as they should, because then 591 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: it rise to the level of others. He'll be a 592 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: Raider for life. That's who Derek Carr will be, and 593 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: that'll be good enough. 594 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: Always had that what if from that season right, they 595 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: were extraordinarily uncannily healthy the entire year. I don't know 596 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: how it might have been the fewest games missed by 597 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: twenty two starters in NFL history until he broke his leg. Oh, 598 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: MVP season, all of that shaping up and just like 599 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: that torn asunder. 600 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: A lot of guys would would if you could tell 601 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: them that they have the career that Derek Carr had. 602 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: As crazy as it is, and how we pick apart 603 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: things Mike and look at levels like that's a good 604 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: NFL career, So best to look to him. And in 605 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: the life after football. 606 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: There you go at Dan Byron Fox find me over 607 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: at Swollen Dome. Now it's houd to take a turn 608 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: off the newswire fantastic with our guy, Isaac Lowing Crown. 609 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 2: Hi Love, what's up, buddy? 610 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 4: Happy Sunday, Let's get it starting with today's NBA playoff 611 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 4: action that tips off at three point thirty Eastern from 612 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 4: the Mile High City with Denver holding a two games 613 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 4: to one lead over the Oklahoma City Thunder. In Game three. 614 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 4: On Saturday night, the Minnesota Timberwolves what a Golden State 615 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 4: on two to ninety seven for a two games to 616 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 4: one lead. Anthony Edwards thirty six points, including the clinching 617 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 4: three with one nineteen to play, and Julius Randall had 618 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 4: a twenty four point ten rebound at twelve assist triple double. 619 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 4: Today's Stanley Cup playoff action faces off at four thirty 620 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 4: Eastern from Dallas, with Game three in the Stars in Winnipeg. 621 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 4: Jets tied at one win a piece wild finish. On 622 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 4: Saturday night, the Vegas Golden Knights in Edmonton Orders tied 623 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 4: to three in the final second of the third period 624 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 4: of their Game three. Here were Dan do and Gary 625 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 4: Lawless on Fox Sports ninety eight point nine and thirteen 626 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 4: forty Las Vegas. 627 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 5: Five seconds centered off the stick in the slot. 628 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: Smith gets around. 629 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 5: The goaligue they scored. No, it's waved off. They waved 630 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 5: it off. The referee waved his arm saying no. The 631 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 5: Golden Knights think they've won. They won deero point four. 632 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: The puck completely cross the line. 633 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 4: Gol Vegas wins at four to three. Edmonton leads the 634 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 4: series two games to one. That actually went in off 635 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 4: the stick of Edmonton's Leon dry Side. We've seen I 636 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 4: think more own goals in this year's Stanley Cup Playoffs 637 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 4: than in any other year that I can remember. 638 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: I will say this. Edmonton evened it up on a 639 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: shot that was off of a Vegas Knights defenseman skate, 640 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: so I for an eye in that kid. 641 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: What's the over undrown owned goals today? 642 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 4: Let me check the refresh one and a half. 643 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: I'm taking it. 644 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 4: I'm taking the over baby. We got one major League 645 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 4: baseball game going on right now. The New York metsa 646 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 4: won nothing lead over the Cubs after two on an 647 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 4: RBI tripled by the Mets Luis Torrenz on Saturday nights, 648 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 4: oh the Colorado Rockies. The San Diego Padres defeat of 649 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 4: the Rockies at Corsfield on Saturday night twenty one to nothing. 650 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 4: The Rockies have allowed fifty five runs over the last 651 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 4: three days. That's the most runs a Major League team 652 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 4: has allowed on a three day span in seventy five years, 653 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 4: since the Saint Louis Browns in June of nineteen fifty. 654 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 4: The Saint Louis Brown's now known, of course as the 655 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 4: Baltimore Orioles. 656 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, speaking of the Orioles through thirty 657 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 2: nine games, the nineteen eighty eight Orioles tied with these 658 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five Rockies for the most losses through thirty 659 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 2: nine games, with thirty three. I spills, they're outpacing my 660 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: White Sox of a year ago. 661 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 4: I still remember that Sports Illustrated cover when the Orioles 662 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 4: started Ozhen twenty one. I think that year that was 663 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 4: historically bad. 664 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: You're right, terrible stuff at Isaac Lowenkrown. I have a 665 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: bigger rant about the GMA and everything. I'll save that 666 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: offline because that might be colorful, h and a glimpse 667 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: into the wonderful world of management and recognizing your part 668 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 2: in what you've brought to bear. Anyway, he's Dan, I'm 669 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 2: Mike coming up next. Less is more, except in the NFL. 670 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: We'll crack the code next year. 671 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: On Fox. 672 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 673 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: See now, I'm all jacked up. 674 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: Let's go. 675 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday. Mike Carmen, Dan 676 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 2: Bayer with you, and it's that time, that special time 677 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: of the show. Everybody's got their extra caffeinated beverages and 678 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: Dan's got a stick microphone. 679 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: And it's time to get the Fox family together on 680 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 1: this Mother's Day. Great megamix by Chris Burfett on that one, 681 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: blending one to another. The Fox Family consists of Mike Carmen, 682 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: Chris Purfett, producer Shay Shane Mahanguard. All right, thank you 683 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: very much, but it does not include Isaac Glow and 684 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: Crown Today. What kind of Isaac is going to be 685 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: a lifeline? You could call your I Low if you 686 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: guys want, there's one available for a game. The reason 687 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: being is Isaac passed along this topic to me during 688 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: the week and so a perfect opportunity to use this 689 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: on the show. And I'm going to put forth this rule, 690 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: Isaac if this ever happens again, you will host the 691 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: game and I will play along with the Fox family. 692 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: So you don't even need to send it to me. 693 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: You can say, Dan, I found something that's amazing. I 694 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: want to do it for the feud. I think it'd 695 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: be great. We'll hand the long skinny stick microphone over 696 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: to you and you can do it, all right, love 697 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: it all right? You so, but today you will at 698 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: least be a lifeline. So you're included. Top eleven answers 699 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: on the board. Eleven pro sports franchises in Major League Baseball, 700 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: the NBA, and NHL with no S at the end 701 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: of their nickname. Now the NFL doesn't have any of these, 702 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: so they're not even included. But we're looking for the 703 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: the eleven teams in those three leagues at this second 704 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: of what their their names are that do not have 705 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: an S at the end of it. Mike Carmon, three 706 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: strikes and an I Loo available. We start with you 707 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: and Homo City, all right, show me the thunder. Obviously, yes, 708 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: there is no S at the end of thunder Oklahoma 709 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: City is off the board. Let's go over to Chris Purfet. 710 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 6: So let me get that right about the not I 711 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 6: mean at this second, right now. So does the Utah 712 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 6: change the NHL as that in effect right now? 713 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: Well? Did they change their name earlier this week? They 714 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's official. That's why i'm as well. 715 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: I think they did. I think I'll save that just 716 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 1: in case. 717 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 6: But yeah, sure, sure, I'll go with Mammoth. 718 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: There it is. 719 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: It's a timely reason. We try to make some of 720 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: these timely at times, and that is the reason why 721 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 1: this is so timely. Over to producer Shay. 722 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 7: I'm gonna go Jimmy Buckets's old team Heat. 723 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: Miami Heat. Yea Heat, show me the heat, all right, right, 724 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: three for three? Back around to my Carmen. Oh wow, 725 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: you can use your I low if you'd like. No, no, no, 726 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: I love THEE low. I think I know that nicknames 727 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: that don't end in S jazz show me the Utah jazz. Yeah, 728 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: it's all Utah. Utah is like the heck of these 729 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: essays we. 730 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 2: Were running by our own rules. 731 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 1: Were the utah ute? All right, let's go to let's 732 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: go to Chris Perpett. 733 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 6: Well, let's set this up, this answer and someone else 734 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 6: would take an answer to give me the Red Sox. 735 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: Show me Boston Red Sox. All right, Boston's off the board. 736 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: Five for five. Isaac Huban press so far with how 737 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: this uh Fox family knows their sports pleasantly? 738 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 4: So pleasantly. 739 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: So let's go to producer Shay I. 740 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 7: Thank god Chris just said the Red Sox because I 741 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 7: was I did not know what I was gonna do here. 742 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 7: Let's go White Sox. Yeah, show me the White Sox. 743 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 7: So Carmen's team from them, jerk, I'm back around to 744 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 7: my Carmen. 745 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: All right. 746 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 2: Now, let's let's start pondering. 747 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: This nicknames with no s. At the end, there are 748 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 1: five answers. Last week got the Mammoth Red Sox, White Sox, Thunder, 749 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: Keat and Jazz. 750 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 2: Should be just smacking me in the face, but it's not. 751 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 2: I Loo. 752 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 4: This team had a mascot named Puff the Dragon. 753 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: Oh you could just give the answer, I love, Oh, Okay, 754 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: just give the answer. 755 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 4: I think it's more interesting this way. The Magic of Orlando. 756 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: All right, Orlando Magic off the board? All right? Perfect score. 757 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 1: Also because the time constraints. We're at about eighty seconds here, 758 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: sixty seconds Chris Purfet Uh Timpa Bay lightning, show me 759 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: the lightning. All right, guys, we have a perfect game going. 760 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,439 Speaker 1: Three answers remaining over to Shay. 761 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 8: I'm assuming it's all hockey right now, that'd be correct. 762 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 8: I'm assuming it's all Oh god, we have a time. 763 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 1: Skip me here. Okay, we're just gonna give you a strike. 764 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: We're just gonna give you a strike. There'll be an 765 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: X on that one. How about the wild? All right? 766 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: Show me the Minnesota Wild. Minnesota Wild. Over to Chris Perfets. 767 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 6: After this one, here'll be monsters, Seattle kracking, show me 768 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 6: the kracking. 769 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: All right, Shay, one answer left? Can you do it? 770 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 4: Team? 771 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: Oh? Oh, show me the Colorado Avalanche nowhere. I think 772 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: the inspiration on that topic that uh was a good one. 773 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: It was uh sal capaccio right from uh covering the 774 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: Buffalo bills. 775 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 4: From buff Yeah, Buffalo, Yeah, it. 776 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 1: Covers the bills. Yeah. I gave the eleven and hey, 777 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: I like it because it allowed me a lot less work. 778 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: So that was of. 779 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 2: Spot bonus for you. Ilo at Damn buyer out Fox 780 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: found me over at Swollen Dow I'm coming up next. 781 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 2: We turned back to the NBA Fantastic Playoff action later 782 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 2: on today, Green Eggs walcome in an hour two of 783 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 2: the program. A beautiful Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio 784 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 2: here in southern California, where it was already eighty two 785 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 2: degrees on my dashboard. 786 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: It's it's cooking. 787 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 2: As I came from Chicago, where I was walking through 788 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 2: a bunch of wind tunnels and making sure I still 789 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 2: had feeling in my extremities. At the end, I got soft, Dan, 790 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 2: I got soft. I left uh Chicago years ago in 791 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 2: pursuit of the dream and whatever else and all the 792 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 2: highways and byways, and then I go home now and 793 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 2: the blood's thinned out to where everything's cold. 794 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I get it. I could completely understand. 795 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: You also had a whirlwind of a travel experience, and 796 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 1: so of here, there and everywhere, of doing your show, 797 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: going to the sports media conference that you went to, 798 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: and then hopping on a bird and flying back here 799 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: and then waiting up early and coming in. So you 800 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: deserve a little rest on this mother. 801 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 2: Job jacked up. It's a beautiful mother's day wherever you're celebrating. However, 802 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 2: you're celebrating, make sure to give a nod to the 803 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 2: mom in your life, Mom, Grandma, auntie, whoever helps to 804 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 2: fill you know some of those roles and define it 805 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 2: as you will. But one of the things that you know, 806 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 2: I got the earworm in for you early on and 807 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 2: it started to affect your speech patterns. Dan was this 808 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 2: classic from nineteen eighty four by a young, upstart recording 809 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 2: artist named Lawrence Tarot, known by a street name. 810 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: Of mister T. 811 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 2: And it goes on lyricist here was the same guy 812 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 2: that wrote the track be Somebody or Be Somebody's Fool. 813 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 2: I can remember mister T the A team and obviously 814 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 2: Rocky three and into wrestling and all of those things. 815 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 2: But a massive run for him, and yes, a recording 816 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 2: contract mixed therein. My brother's sent me that and to 817 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 2: become an annual tradition to celebrate mister tea. 818 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: Oh that's great. I wish we could play more, but 819 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: that we'd be at the oh mister T money, so 820 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: we had to cut it off when we did. But 821 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: a great way to honor moms. I know my mom's 822 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: listening today, so I want to say specifically Happy Mother's 823 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: Day to her. It is a it is a big 824 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: day on Seinfeld. We heard the mother of all holidays 825 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: and the greeting card business is Mother's Day. So I 826 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,919 Speaker 1: hope people get a chance and if their moms aren't 827 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: around anymore, they can remember their mothers and honor those 828 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: moms that are around them. I don't because it can 829 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: get emotional for some that sure that may not have. 830 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 1: You know, my wife, I wish her a happy Mother's Day. 831 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: Her mom, my mother in law, is no longer with us, 832 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,720 Speaker 1: so we'll take a little bit time today to remember 833 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: her as well. But a chance to enter, you know, 834 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: to honor all of our moms out there. My mom 835 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: was the best, never missed a sporting event even though 836 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: I was you know, we weren't good, we weren't winning games, 837 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: and I wasn't going anywhere. She was always there. 838 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 2: So appreciate her positivity. No question. The other day anniversary 839 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 2: that we could celebrate, you know, to take it to 840 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 2: the Shirley foolhardy. This was the day that ray Liota 841 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 2: was seeing helicopters making gravy and running around in Goodfellas, 842 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 2: so maybe it's an excuse to sit and watch good 843 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 2: Fellaws Later on, I don't know, whatever the case may be. 844 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 2: We got baseball going, We've got the Mets in the Cubs. 845 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 2: We've got Arsenal and Liverpool two two with about fifteen 846 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 2: minutes left in regulation. So much going on in our 847 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 2: sporting universe. And we get the NBA playoffs resume a 848 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 2: little bit later on today, we get Game four OKC 849 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 2: and Denver, Denver up to one in spite of a 850 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 2: horrid shooting game from Nicola Jokic last time out. And 851 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 2: then Cleveland and Indiana. No, I did not say Indianapolis, 852 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pat myself on the back, because that's normally 853 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 2: what I do. The Pacers up two games to one 854 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: in that one, Cleveland trying to get healthy. That's one 855 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 2: of the first I guess jumping off points for these playoffs. 856 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 2: Dan Is, you know Cleveland had a couple of players, 857 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 2: miss guys Hunter and obviously Garland with the toe injury, 858 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 2: to where you've had a little bit there. You watched 859 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 2: Steph Curry with this injury, monitoring how long he's going 860 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 2: to be out for the Warriors. And we'll get to 861 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 2: the Timberwolf side of it in a second. But thus far, 862 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 2: knock Wood, we've had pretty good health through these first 863 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 2: two rounds of the playoff. We did the parody conversation 864 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 2: last hour for those that missed at Shale, get the 865 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 2: podcast up as we finish up this show. But you 866 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 2: know the fact that we're getting all these stars out 867 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 2: night after night is a beautiful thing. 868 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, this this Steph Curry injury is a tough one, 869 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: but there is there. There is a little bit of 870 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: help there. And in the news that we got is 871 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: something that I said a couple of days ago that 872 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: I think what Golden State needs to do outside of 873 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,879 Speaker 1: the Damian Lillard injury Isaac Bucks fan that was that 874 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: was a crusher. But you saw what happens when Cleveland 875 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 1: just gets back to full strength. And that's what that's 876 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: is so intriguing about these playoffs. And we touched a 877 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: bit off the top and saying there is an unknown 878 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: to it. But if you're the Cavaliers, you know, I'm 879 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 1: gonna take it from the Pacers side of things. I'll 880 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: do it that way. If you're the Indiana Pacers, you 881 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: go to Cleveland, you win two games that maybe it 882 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't have won, you end up stealing, especially the game two, 883 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: you end up getting a victory there and the Cavaliers 884 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: are shorthanded. They blow that huge lead, something we talked 885 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,919 Speaker 1: about earlier as well. But you go into Game three 886 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: and you're like, Okay, are we a better team? And Mike, 887 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: I think compared to the Celtics and Knicks series, and 888 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: maybe it's because people weren't familiar with Indiana are familiar 889 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: with Cleveland in that facet that more people and they 890 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: were familiar with Boston because Boston's the defending NBA champions. 891 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: But I think more people are giving Boston the credit 892 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: and opportunity if they can go win Game three in 893 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: New York and turn this thing around. I don't think 894 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: anybody was doing that with Cleveland. And the reason I 895 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: want to take it from the Pacers perspective is this 896 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: mic is I don't even know if they're good, Like 897 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Indiana is a good team or not. 898 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: We know that Tyre's Halliburton has been magnificent. Rick Carlisle 899 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: is one heck of a coach. Pascal Siakam has got 900 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: an NBA title under his belt, almost playing the robin 901 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: role to Kawhi Leonard in that in that Toronto run. 902 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 1: Miles Turner has been a piece that a lot of 903 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 1: people have wanted to get their hands on for years, 904 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: and he just continues to remain a Pacer. Aaron Ne 905 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: Smith has hit big shots, Andrew Nemhart's hit big shots 906 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: as well. For the Pacers, TJ McConnell is is is 907 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: a pit bull. I mean, there's they have players, but 908 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: in terms of like their team, Mike, I'm like, how 909 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: do teams not beat them? Right? And and so so 910 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: it's it's crazy because I can I can look at 911 00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 1: the Cavaliers and be like, well, yeah, obviously you see 912 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,399 Speaker 1: why the Cavaliers are having such success. You can look 913 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma City and see their depth and SGA in 914 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: the whole deal with the Pacers, like, I'm like, I 915 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: don't know if they're good or not, but they're two 916 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,720 Speaker 1: to one up in the Eastern Conference semifinals. 917 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 8: Good. 918 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 1: You know, they were able to take care of of 919 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: my Bucks, as they said, without without Damian Lillard, but 920 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: in coming back and fighting back against them. It's so 921 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: it's so intriguing to look at them because Tyre's Halliburton 922 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,919 Speaker 1: has been so clutch and he's been so quick. But again, Mike, 923 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,479 Speaker 1: this is on the heels of an anonymous player poll 924 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: who the most overrated player in the league was, and 925 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: Tyrese Haliburton got fourteen percent of the vote. So when 926 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: we're looking at specifically the Eastern Conference playoffs, I think 927 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 1: we all can see whether the Knicks would be good, 928 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,399 Speaker 1: while the Celtics would be good, and while the Caps 929 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,800 Speaker 1: would be good. But I am miffed by the Pacers 930 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,399 Speaker 1: and here they are up to one of the SEO. 931 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we get into game time management. I mean maybe 932 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 2: this is where Carlisle gets a little bit of love 933 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 2: in that regard, right, Yeah, the moment's not too big, 934 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 2: Russ WIMPs now. And what's funny is you go back 935 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,240 Speaker 2: in we had one of those great two minute reports 936 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 2: that the Nie Smith put back dunk shouldn't have counted. 937 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 2: So we always have those little asterisks that get thrown in. 938 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 2: You get a good apology whatever. But for the Pacers, 939 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 2: maybe it's just that, right, you've got a tight rotation 940 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,720 Speaker 2: of seven guys and a coach that in big moments, 941 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 2: your team's not throwing up on itself, not being able 942 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 2: to get a ball in bounds, not dribbling off their leg, 943 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,720 Speaker 2: not losing a defensive rotation. 944 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: They and they aren't going to stop you, so if 945 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 1: you play with that, they want to score. But that's 946 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 1: the funny thing in those defensive situations is that they've 947 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: gotten key defensive plays when they're not really a defensive team, 948 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 1: which is another reason maybe why I'm not necessarily buying in. 949 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: I don't know who is great in that scenario, but 950 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,399 Speaker 1: the Pacers, you know, are a team that I think 951 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 1: much more, much more of a strength offensively than going 952 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,320 Speaker 1: in and locking down a team over the final minute. 953 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: Yet here they are forcing turnovers and wreaking havoc and 954 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: pulling out these games that they had no business of doing. 955 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 2: So now let's circle back to last night. Right you 956 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 2: talk about the Warriors missing Steph Curry. They get a 957 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 2: great game from Jimmy Butler. He goes for thirty three, 958 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 2: but a guy who's been much maligned through his NBA career, 959 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 2: partially because he was a member of the Knicks, which 960 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 2: means everything is going to be magnified Lakers before that, 961 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 2: going back to his draft status, Julius Randall has a 962 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 2: triple double. But he's the nice robin to Anthony Edwards, 963 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 2: who really is an interesting character in this NBA telenovela 964 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 2: as we go through right now, as a lead man 965 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 2: and a guy that people keep trying to thrust the 966 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,800 Speaker 2: face of the league. He's had a couple of no shows, 967 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 2: had a scary all right, is he going to be hurt? No, 968 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 2: he comes back out of the locker room and he 969 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 2: plays and then has a huge Game three. But a 970 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,479 Speaker 2: guy that for the national narrative, one of those trying 971 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 2: to put the mantle face of the NBA put that 972 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 2: title on a guy from Minnesota and thus far averaging 973 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 2: about twenty seven points a game in these playoffs and 974 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 2: has the pension for the spectacular. Right again, another guy 975 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 2: who embraces the spotlight, win, loser, draw, right. He wants 976 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 2: the ball in his hands, which you can't say that 977 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,240 Speaker 2: for a lot of these superstars of the NBA. 978 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: No, and heck and a lot of the guys in 979 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: the NBA who wants to score on the block and 980 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 1: down low? Right now, it's just a three point fest. Yeah, 981 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean Rudy Gobert, for as great as he's been 982 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,399 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, he's not the guy that you run 983 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,240 Speaker 1: your offense through. So when he's getting twenty seven points, 984 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 1: he's doing it on alley oops and dunks and putbacks. 985 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: Nas Reed is seven feet and he's out there chucking. 986 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 2: Threes, hanging around the end. 987 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and so like it gives them an opportunity. 988 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: And honestly, where Golden State is, we know that they 989 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: are at their weakest is inside and when Steph Curry 990 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 1: is avail available, and obviously lineups change a little bit, 991 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,919 Speaker 1: but yeah, like you can, you could get Golden State 992 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,439 Speaker 1: inside and and that's why I think the Timberwolves ended 993 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 1: up in the first half yesterday in not really separating 994 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 1: themselves from Golden State, and they needed to do it 995 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: at the end. But in the first half Golden State 996 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,959 Speaker 1: went into the locker room with the lead. Warriors didn't 997 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: hit a field good, didn't hit a three point field 998 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: goal in the first half, and so so well, Minnesota's 999 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 1: out there, you know, shooting threes. But if you have 1000 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 1: that inside presence and Randall is clearly the two. Even 1001 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,800 Speaker 1: if nas Reed has a great game or Rudy Gobert 1002 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 1: has his great game, Julius Randall is the two. Is 1003 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 1: the robin to to Anthony Edwards. And if you get 1004 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 1: both of those guys on an inside out scenario, look 1005 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: out like Minnesota. I mean they they're better than the Warriors. 1006 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,439 Speaker 1: They and they're got They should win this series, no doubt. 1007 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 1: The only thing that can save Golden State because I 1008 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,399 Speaker 1: don't think I mean Conesota loses Game four. I think 1009 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 1: the game that Golden State needed to win was last night. 1010 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: Then the question is do they rush stuff back for 1011 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 1: Game five or not. But it's there for Minnesota. When 1012 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 1: you look at the other side of the bracket two 1013 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: and you see Oklahoma City struggling in the two games 1014 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 1: to put away the Nuggets and Denver's up to one. 1015 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be afraid of the Nuggets if I had 1016 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 1: to play I want to be afraid of Oklahoma City 1017 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: if I had to play them, I'd much rather be Minnesota, 1018 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: I think in those scenarios. So it's there for the 1019 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 1: Timberwolves to make it to the NBA Finals. 1020 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 2: Looks like it's there for a long series. On the 1021 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 2: other side, so beating the hell out of each other. Now, 1022 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 2: obviously you had that laugher forty three point win by 1023 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 2: Okase that took away some of those stressful minutes and 1024 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 2: Nikola Jokicic just falling out said forget it, I'm done 1025 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,320 Speaker 2: with this game, which was one of the more comical 1026 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 2: things ever. Right officiated pretty hard early on, not drawing 1027 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,399 Speaker 2: the file. So not often do you have a lot 1028 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 2: of complaining in a forty three point burial about foul calls. 1029 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 2: But certainly it's set the tone in tenor early on, 1030 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,800 Speaker 2: or so the Nuggets seem to think. And then Jokic 1031 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 2: was finally done with it by the end of the 1032 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 2: third and tapped out. 1033 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 1: Well, that's the interesting thing. Who who do you think 1034 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,360 Speaker 1: has played better in that Oklahoma City Denver series? 1035 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 2: Denver? 1036 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you say Oklahoma City beating by forty 1037 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 1: in game two. Yeah, Oklahoma City had a lead in 1038 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,760 Speaker 1: game one that they probably should have put them away, 1039 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: lost in overtime in game three. But I think that 1040 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,400 Speaker 1: if you would have said Oklahoma City, I would have 1041 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,359 Speaker 1: just done it in reverse order. I would have said, 1042 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 1: gave it away in game one, you know, stunk it 1043 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 1: up in overtimeing game they score two points in over, Yeah, 1044 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 1: like you know, but you have an opportunity to win 1045 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 1: that game. They've had opportunities to win all three of 1046 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: the games that haven't done and have only come away 1047 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 1: with one win because they they won by forty that's 1048 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,399 Speaker 1: a mix like Oklahoma City. I thought that they would 1049 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,479 Speaker 1: be better in this situation because I'm not a full 1050 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 1: believer in Denver. I don't think Denver is as great 1051 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 1: as people think that the Nuggets are. I think Jokic 1052 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 1: is great, and Aaron Gordon has been great with the 1053 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: three near the end in Game three of regulation with 1054 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,720 Speaker 1: what about twenty five seconds left to tie at the putback, 1055 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 1: He's been there, He's made big shots the three in 1056 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 1: Game one to put him up, like Gordon's been great. 1057 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,399 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray is a great player. But I just for 1058 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 1: some reason, I'm just I'm not a believer in Denver, 1059 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 1: and they have an opportunity to prove me wrong. But 1060 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: I can't believe Oklahoma City is down to one in 1061 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 1: the series. 1062 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 2: Then you have m Michael Porter Junior finally has himself 1063 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 2: a game. Sure, we'd been invisible and you can see 1064 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 2: the frustration mounting. The thing I've I like about Denver 1065 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 2: and it's something Smith and I have talked about on 1066 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 2: our show at night seven to eleven Pacific. Check us 1067 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 2: out there Dan during the day with with Doug gott 1068 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,760 Speaker 2: Leaven with Cavino and Rich Here. I'm there as well 1069 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 2: is the idea for Denver when everybody got it handwringing 1070 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,399 Speaker 2: when they fired Michael Malone. 1071 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:56,320 Speaker 1: We took it. 1072 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 2: Two relationships and the rest of the world. If you're 1073 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 2: done with something, you're done right. If every day you 1074 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 2: walk into your workplace and all it is is everything 1075 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 2: wrong with the workplace and you hate to be there, 1076 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 2: at some point you got to look in the mirror 1077 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 2: and just say, Okay, it's time to go find something else. 1078 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 2: But if you're in a relationship where when you start 1079 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 2: talking to people, all you're doing is negative, negative, negative, negative, 1080 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 2: it's probably not the relationship for you. It's probably not healthy. Likewise, 1081 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 2: if you're coaching, I mean, Michael Malone was going to 1082 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 2: the podium and talking about how he couldn't get guys 1083 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,399 Speaker 2: to watch film whatever. He showed where they were at 1084 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 2: in their relationship and where that team was. So why 1085 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 2: would you ride that out necessarily even through the playoffs 1086 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 2: and give that up. So jokis being demonstrative on the 1087 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 2: sideline and them having some success, like I'm not gonna 1088 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 2: give it all to Adaman whatever, but there's part of 1089 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,360 Speaker 2: me that just wants toy. They had the guts to 1090 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 2: fire a guy that everybody loved and say, you know what, 1091 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 2: we're better, you know, additioned by subtraction. Let's go forward 1092 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 2: with a and see how far we can make this 1093 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:55,879 Speaker 2: thing run. 1094 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 1: What do you have to lose? I guess is there 1095 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 1: thinking in the two things that I that I like 1096 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 1: that I look back and like about the move was 1097 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,879 Speaker 1: the reports were that Calvin Booth, the GM at the time, 1098 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 1: and Michael Malone, the head coach, were not seeing eye 1099 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 1: to eye and there was friction. 1100 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 2: Right the Russell Westbrook rotation and things like that. 1101 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so instead of siding with one side or the 1102 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: other by saying Michael Malone, you're gone, Cavin Booth, you're gone, 1103 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,359 Speaker 1: they're like both you see you later. Like there's there's 1104 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,720 Speaker 1: something to that to be like, we want this whole situation. 1105 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 1: We don't want anything lingering from maybe this person feeling 1106 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 1: that their guy stayed and this they just cleaned out. 1107 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 1: They said that we're done, and there's there's something admirable 1108 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 1: about that. But it also put the as you said, 1109 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: it put the onus on Nikolajokicic, and it put the 1110 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 1: onus on Russell Westbrook as well as a veteran. There 1111 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 1: was a point in that Game three, and we've seen 1112 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,800 Speaker 1: it throughout the playoffs, but in that game three where 1113 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,840 Speaker 1: the coaches are out huddling away and Russell Westbrook is 1114 00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 1: talking and motivating as players, and everybody is feeding off 1115 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,239 Speaker 1: off of that. So there is an added responsibility to 1116 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,880 Speaker 1: Jokic and Russell Westbrook where if you don't get it done, 1117 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 1: it's not on your shoulders. It's not on Michael Malone's, 1118 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 1: it's not on Kelvin Booth's, it's not on the Kronkey family. 1119 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 1: It's on your shoulders. If you don't get it done done. 1120 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 1: That adds extra responsibility, and in a way it's it's 1121 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 1: made a genius move. I've seen some people say that, 1122 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: see the Nuggets were fine, you didn't need to fire 1123 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: Michael Malone. I don't believe that's the case. No, I 1124 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 1: think they don't believe that at all. I agree with 1125 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 1: what you guys are saying to clear it out and 1126 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 1: to be able to completely remove any of the tension 1127 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 1: there and put the pressure on the on the players who, 1128 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 1: by the way, seemingly can handle it. Jokic and Westbrook. 1129 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 1: Good for them. 1130 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I always wondered behind the scenes if the Kronkeys 1131 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 2: looked at each other, going, you know, Yokich is that 1132 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 2: guy that if this goes badly, you could just go 1133 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 2: go ride in a sulky and just never come back. Sure, 1134 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 2: it's always always an angle with him at Dan Byron 1135 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 2: Fox where you find Dan, find me over at Swollendome Up. 1136 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 2: Next we take our turn. Wednesday is schedule release day. 1137 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna make some bold proclamations and predictions based on 1138 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 2: would be matchups for this twenty twenty five campaign. Let's 1139 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 2: do it next here on Fox. Hey, welcome back in 1140 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Carbon alongside 1141 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 2: Dan Bayer having a blast with you here. Thanks for 1142 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 2: being with us, giving us a few minutes of your 1143 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 2: day as we roll through all this beautiful Mother's day 1144 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 2: get out and about enjoy the sunshine. You got a 1145 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 2: chance to do some great things, so take advantage of 1146 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 2: it as you were. One thing that we will most 1147 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 2: definitely get a lot of mileage out out of and 1148 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 2: the spreadsheets will start popping in earnest is later on 1149 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 2: this week the NFL schedule release. 1150 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 6: Dan. 1151 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 2: Now we know the opponents, right, We've had those grids 1152 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 2: for a month, but now it becomes the greatness of travel, 1153 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 2: separating out. My brother has already sent me multiple notes 1154 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 2: like figure out when the Raiders and the Ravens games 1155 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 2: are for the Bears, right, two road games, two opportunities, 1156 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 2: And I know across this country there are a lot 1157 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 2: of people doing the same things like, well, we know 1158 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 2: we're gonna get a trip out to La not week one. 1159 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 2: Get to that in a second. 1160 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 1: Uh, but we. 1161 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 2: Know those trips are on the books. But we get 1162 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 2: into the travel, we get into the what if isms 1163 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 2: and sequencing that helps straight The schedule is a nebulous 1164 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,240 Speaker 2: number until we start putting things in sequence to see 1165 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 2: how teams have to play. 1166 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, in fact, you probably you will know the 1167 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 1: opponents for teams, most of them for next year already. 1168 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 1: So a lot of this has been in place for 1169 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 1: a long time. But once the endings from the previous 1170 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 1: season are finalized, you figure out what first place teams 1171 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 1: you're playing from other divisions, if you're in the first, 1172 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 1: if you're in first place in your division, and so on. 1173 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 1: So we know the opponents, we just don't know the order. 1174 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 1: But we're gonna start to find out over these next 1175 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 1: couple of days before the full release on Wednesday on 1176 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 1: what some marquee games are going to be. We're gonna 1177 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 1: find out who the season opening kickoff matchup is. Fox 1178 00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 1: will announce who their first primetime game that they're going 1179 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 1: to have. We're going to find out Monday and Tuesday 1180 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 1: schedule leaks International games will be released at that point. 1181 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Something to look at. I think when fans get the schedule, 1182 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 1: they look at a couple of things. Number One, they 1183 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 1: look at when their team's bye week is, so if 1184 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 1: they have to do fall travel or do something in 1185 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 1: the fall, they'll schedule it during their NFL teams by. 1186 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 2: Week those pesky fall weddings, Yes week. 1187 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, but it is an interesting week. And it's 1188 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:31,680 Speaker 1: also what I think Mike is the final, the final 1189 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 1: event before we get a true break from football, because 1190 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 1: we really haven't since the Super Bowl. After the Super Bowl, 1191 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:44,200 Speaker 1: players are being released, players are maybe signing contracts before 1192 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 1: the league new league year starts, Combine takes place, then 1193 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 1: it's free agency, then we're into the draft, and now 1194 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,920 Speaker 1: that the draft is done, we're waiting on the schedule. 1195 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 1: But once the schedule ends, then we can kind of 1196 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 1: exhale and we move away from the NFL for a while. 1197 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 1: But what I thought would be fun is to rekindle 1198 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 1: something that we do on this we've done on this 1199 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 1: program before, and that's trying to make some predictions for 1200 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 1: some of the games that we've got coming up, marquee 1201 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 1: games that I think that we can narrow down on 1202 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 1: who is going to be playing where. So we're going 1203 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,080 Speaker 1: to try to do that as a crew here on 1204 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,959 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday. So go ahead, strike up the band 1205 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 1: Isaac Looh and cron producer Shake, Chris Profettor along with 1206 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 1: Mike Harmon and myself and trying to determine four games. 1207 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: These are the four matchups that we're going to put. 1208 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: Are you know what's on the line. We want to 1209 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 1: know who you think the Eagles will face in the 1210 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 1: kickoff special on the Thursday of Week one. We want 1211 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 1: to know number two, who the Lions will host on 1212 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day, and number three who the Cowboys will host 1213 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving Day. And then finally the one that's all 1214 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 1: over the map. Pick your week one Monday Night Football matchup. 1215 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 1: Monday Night football matchup, not Sunday, but the Monday Night 1216 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 1: football matchup. Mike Harmon, let's start with the Eagles and 1217 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 1: that kickoff game will give you the honor for this 1218 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 1: one for the first pick. Who do you think the 1219 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 1: Eagles play on opening nights of the twenty twenty five 1220 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 1: NFL season. 1221 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 2: I think we're gonna like I've got a common team 1222 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 2: that pops up a lot because they've become a darling. 1223 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go a little off the great. I'm 1224 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 2: gonna take the Rams, the raid expectations, and Matthew Stafford 1225 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 2: coming back for what might be the last Hurrah. Question 1226 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 2: mark all of that to say, hype around that squad 1227 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 2: just that closed. Why not get a rematch from that 1228 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 2: snow game. 1229 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: Oh that's amazing because we have seen playoff rematches before. 1230 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 1: Chris Purfett over to you Eagles home opponent for the 1231 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 1: kickoff game to kick off the NFL season, as they're 1232 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 1: the defending Super Bowl champions. I like where Mike's going. 1233 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 6: There is usually a lot of playoff repeats, sometimes even 1234 01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 6: a Super Bowl rematch. Sometimes in these kickoffs, I'm gonna 1235 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 6: go a little bit different. Is playoff related, but I 1236 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 6: feel like it's the playoff matchup that kind of got 1237 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 6: away from the NFL. And I know I'm biased on this, 1238 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 6: but I'm gonna go with the Detroit Lions Lions Eagles. 1239 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 6: Feels like that was an NFC championship that was almost 1240 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 6: completely penciled in until the Commanders really tore that down 1241 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 6: to the studs. But I think that'll be as if 1242 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 6: the Lions haven't had enough of tough schedule for this 1243 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 6: upcoming calendar as it is. 1244 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 1: Sure start out in Philadelphia. Shay, you got to pick 1245 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,520 Speaker 1: for who the Eagles a face on opening Night. 1246 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna go a little different from what Harmon 1247 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 7: and Chris said here. I think I'm gonna do Eagles Commanders. 1248 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 7: I feel like that'd be a great matchup, big stars, 1249 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,120 Speaker 7: big names everywhere, and it will turn into a great game. 1250 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 7: Hopefully no Tush push in this game, but we'll see. 1251 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:45,920 Speaker 6: What Are you happy with that, Mike, Because I know 1252 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 6: we were talking during the break about divisional games and 1253 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 6: these kind of really big spots. 1254 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 1: That's that's tough. 1255 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 2: It's generally not my favorite, like when we get we 1256 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 2: thrust that out and Dan it alluded to the International Games. 1257 01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 2: The fact that we're finding out that the Chargers are 1258 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 2: going to lose a home game to play the Chiefs 1259 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 2: in Brazil, to me is just foolhardy and just wrong 1260 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 2: headed in an approach to this. I know you want 1261 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 2: to go sell the Chiefs and everything else, but giving 1262 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 2: that game away likewise, you know, doing a divisional game 1263 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 2: here right off the jump, because that, look, the Commanders 1264 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,160 Speaker 2: were the other team I alluded to before I went Rams. Right, 1265 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 2: He's like, we're going to get an awful lot of 1266 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 2: Commanders shoved down our throats this year after the feel 1267 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 2: good story that was twenty twenty four. 1268 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 1: I have got a stat that I'll give you after 1269 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 1: Isaac's pick and my pick that I think could sway 1270 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,800 Speaker 1: us if the NFL does go a certain way. Isaac, 1271 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 1: you want to throw your hat in on who the 1272 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,200 Speaker 1: Eagles will face in the home opener. 1273 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 4: I agree with Harmon. I say it's going to be 1274 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,919 Speaker 4: the Rams because that was the toughest game that Philadelphia 1275 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 4: had in the postseason last year on their way to 1276 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. 1277 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Profet and the Lions. I 1278 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,800 Speaker 1: think we didn't see the matchup, so it will be new. 1279 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 1: I still think that there's pizazz to it, so I'm 1280 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,520 Speaker 1: going to go with the Lions. Here's here's the thing, 1281 01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,480 Speaker 1: and this is not to go against Shay's but it 1282 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 1: may go to Shay's point. We've only seen in the 1283 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 1: kickoff game three times a divisional opponent or a divisional matchup. 1284 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,919 Speaker 1: To start this season. It was Packers Bears in twenty 1285 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:20,240 Speaker 1: nineteen because one hundredth anniversary of you know, they were 1286 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 1: celebrating one hundred years in the NFL. The other two 1287 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,479 Speaker 1: times were in the NFC East. So we have seen 1288 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,400 Speaker 1: matchups with the Giants and Cowboys in twenty twelve, and 1289 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 1: then the Giants in then Washington Redskins in two thousand 1290 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 1: and eight. Those were the only two times where he 1291 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 1: had a divisional game, but they were both in the 1292 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,960 Speaker 1: NFC East. I think we'll find out tomorrow who the 1293 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 1: opening kickoff game is. All Right, Lions Thanksgiving Day, I'm 1294 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:44,840 Speaker 1: gonna give Perfet the honor here. 1295 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I defer Chris on this. 1296 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna have first bites of this Thanksgiving Day turkey that. 1297 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,600 Speaker 6: Happens to be the name of our preview podcast too. 1298 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 6: Usually this has become a divisional game on Thanksgiving. It's 1299 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,440 Speaker 6: been a lot of Packers Bears. I think a few 1300 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,440 Speaker 6: years ago the Vikings. Vikings feel like they're due up 1301 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 6: for it, but I would really like to see getting 1302 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 6: away from an NFC North Divisional game for Thanksgiving. 1303 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 1: I'd like the Lion. I think the Lions. 1304 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 6: I think the Steelers feel like a really you got 1305 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 6: the Cowboys on here, which is really fascinating as an option. 1306 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,160 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Lions, Steelers. 1307 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 6: We haven't had a cross conference Lions Thanksgiving in a 1308 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 6: really long time. 1309 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 1: I believe. And not to change anybody else's guests, the 1310 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna be hosting their own Thanksgiving Jay, so 1311 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,200 Speaker 1: they're not gonna be in Detroit on Thanksgiving Day. They're 1312 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 1: gonna be hosting their own which is our next question. 1313 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 1: All right, Harmon, you want to go next? Give you 1314 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 1: the honors? 1315 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? I like Chris's logic here because they had the 1316 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 2: nod in the wink that Aaron Rodgers just showing up 1317 01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 2: for Pittsburgh right right, because then it takes out a 1318 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,280 Speaker 2: whole other level. But I'll take it to the tradition. 1319 01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:54,920 Speaker 2: I'll take a Detroit and Green Bay. Okay, Thanksgiving Day games. 1320 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,480 Speaker 1: Shay, who do you like the Lions facing on? 1321 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,280 Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with Harmon there. I think 1322 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 7: it's gonna be Lions versus the Packers. I think that's 1323 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 7: something that people want. We'll see it'd be two years 1324 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,919 Speaker 7: in a row. Interest, No, it wasn't. 1325 01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:11,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't a Thanksgiving against the Bear because. 1326 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 2: Which is why I vaulted, like because the Bears give 1327 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,400 Speaker 2: it all the love fest that we've got for them 1328 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:16,400 Speaker 2: across the media. 1329 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 6: Packers Packers played somewhere else on Thanksgiving because I know 1330 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,720 Speaker 6: that was like a thing where it's like the Lions and. 1331 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 1: They played home against the Dolphins. 1332 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,440 Speaker 6: That's what it was, because they went straight to another 1333 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:25,240 Speaker 6: Thursday night. 1334 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 1: Game between them. Yes, all right, Isaac Longcron your Lions 1335 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 1: opponent pick. 1336 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,360 Speaker 4: I once again agree with Harmon. I'm going Packers, all right, 1337 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go go into hell. 1338 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 1: Dan. 1339 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,040 Speaker 2: Isaac's agreeing with me multiple times here. 1340 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I like Chris's point of the Steelers. 1341 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 1: You could also have a rematch of the Jerome Bettis 1342 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,120 Speaker 1: coin flip game. Ooh, nice that you had from years back. 1343 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Vikings on this one, all right, 1344 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,919 Speaker 1: An NFC North good enough. We've saw great matchups with them. 1345 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna end the season. Remember they 1346 01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,520 Speaker 1: ended the season against each other. So I don't think 1347 01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,120 Speaker 1: they're going to do that two years in a row. 1348 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,080 Speaker 1: So give me the Vikings on Thanksgiving Day. All right, 1349 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 1: let's go to the Cowboys Thanksgiving, the annually the highest 1350 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:11,200 Speaker 1: rated TV game for an NFL regular season that you 1351 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 1: will see as the Cowboys home on Thanksgiving. I'm gonna 1352 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 1: start out. I'm gonna take first DIBs on this. I 1353 01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,200 Speaker 1: think you have the Chargers coming to town. 1354 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 2: I love it. 1355 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 1: I think it's such a such a it's a marquee matchup. 1356 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:31,160 Speaker 1: You get some flash Harbaugh against the Cowboys. Give me 1357 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,800 Speaker 1: the Chargers, Isaac. Sorry, you're gonna be working on Thanksgiving Day. 1358 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,360 Speaker 1: The Chargers is my Cowboys opponent. 1359 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 2: That's sneaky and I like it. But I'll take the 1360 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 2: chalk at the Commanders. 1361 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:45,439 Speaker 1: Yes, what a showdown that will be if it is 1362 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 1: an NFC East matchup. 1363 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,280 Speaker 6: Chris Purfett, I was gonna ask because I'm trying to 1364 01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,599 Speaker 6: rack my brain remembering how many NFC East matchups we've 1365 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 6: had for the Cowboys Thanksgiving game. I'm trying to remember 1366 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 6: off the top of my head, and I cannot have 1367 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 6: too many that come to mind. 1368 01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,720 Speaker 1: I thought, gosh, you know the Giants have been there 1369 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:06,439 Speaker 1: as of late, and we know the Raiders have been 1370 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 1: sprinkled in by the way. It's also been different since 1371 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,800 Speaker 1: we've kind of moved away from the conference affiliations with 1372 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,720 Speaker 1: the networks right where it would have to be one 1373 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,600 Speaker 1: AFC team would be playing either the Lions or the Cowboys. 1374 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,720 Speaker 1: We've moved away from that in recent years, so you've 1375 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:26,400 Speaker 1: kind of had a heavy NFL or excuse me, a 1376 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:32,880 Speaker 1: heavy NFC slate when talking about these matchups. You've had Packers, Lions, 1377 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,080 Speaker 1: and Giants Cowboys playing against each other, so we've seen 1378 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:36,599 Speaker 1: that before. 1379 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,000 Speaker 6: I see that and like as enticing as I think 1380 01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,920 Speaker 6: Cowboys Packers and another Thanksgiving Day for I mean a 1381 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,080 Speaker 6: Thanksgiving Day for Green Bay would be what about that? 1382 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,439 Speaker 6: Trend will go AFC, We'll go Cowboys Chiefs as you're thinking. 1383 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,599 Speaker 6: Chiefs have said they like the holidays, and I think 1384 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 6: they'll be a big one. 1385 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:57,040 Speaker 1: They wanted the Christmas Day game. All right, Shay, you're 1386 01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 1: pick for the Cowboys. 1387 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,160 Speaker 7: I'm agreeam with Harmon here. They're gonna shove the Commanders 1388 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,800 Speaker 7: down our throats and that's definitely a game that they're 1389 01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 7: gonna want. I think, so, I think it will. I 1390 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,320 Speaker 7: wanted to say Eagles, but I feel like it would 1391 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,439 Speaker 7: be a waste to do that, correct because it would 1392 01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:11,000 Speaker 7: just you know. 1393 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,160 Speaker 1: There's such a Week fourteen game. 1394 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, right, exactly, and that's gonna get good views 1395 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,080 Speaker 7: no matter what. And so in the Thanksgiving game, when 1396 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,000 Speaker 7: you're already gonna get good viewership, I think they're gonna 1397 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:21,639 Speaker 7: throw the Commanders. 1398 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 1: So the Cowboys getting a game face the Raiders in 1399 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, Giants in twenty twenty two, Commanders in 1400 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and the Giants again last season. All right, Isaac, 1401 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 1: your last pick Cowboys. 1402 01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,080 Speaker 4: I completely agree with you, Buyer. I'm making my plans 1403 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:41,559 Speaker 4: for a Chargers Cowboys Thanksgiving. Ironically, they met in Arlington 1404 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 4: Thanksgiving picking up twenty seventeen, and the Chargers destroyed the 1405 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 4: Cowboys twenty eight to six. Philip Rivers threw for four 1406 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,240 Speaker 4: hundred and thirty four yards that day, completing twenty seven 1407 01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:53,360 Speaker 4: of thirty three passes. 1408 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,240 Speaker 1: All right, Isaac, We're just gonna stick with you and 1409 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 1: we'll reverse it back. Week one. Your Monday night game. 1410 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:04,840 Speaker 4: Matchup road team to Houston Texans home team, the Baltimore Ravens. 1411 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,519 Speaker 1: Oh that would be spicy. That would be good. I 1412 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,640 Speaker 1: get Shay you got a Monday night pick for the 1413 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 1: opener on Week one. 1414 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,639 Speaker 7: I got Cowboys at Raiders in Vegas. 1415 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,919 Speaker 1: Nice pick. I think that would draw a lot of eyeballs. 1416 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,519 Speaker 6: Patty Carroll's debut, yep, I might be picking one that 1417 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,760 Speaker 6: might be Sunday Night Football, but I could see a 1418 01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,280 Speaker 6: lot of big matchups there, and I think the NFL's 1419 01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,599 Speaker 6: is going to come out. Haymaker, haymaker, Haymaker. I'm gonna 1420 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:37,160 Speaker 6: take Ravens and Bills in Buffalo. I like the final 1421 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,360 Speaker 6: season of high Mark Stadium. But a way to do it. 1422 01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 6: Mike Harmon your Monday Night Week one matchup. 1423 01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:47,920 Speaker 1: Bears at Ravens some Ravens love. I had Ravens written 1424 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,479 Speaker 1: down initially and I changed it. Bears Ravens would be good. 1425 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,040 Speaker 2: Benjamon, you did too much Commanders though, so I can't 1426 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 2: do any. 1427 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,679 Speaker 1: More of that. How about this last year Aaron Rodgers. 1428 01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 1: It was the return because they crapped out two years 1429 01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 1: against the Bills, so against the Niners. How about Sam 1430 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:07,839 Speaker 1: Darnold against his former team Vikings Seahawks Monday Night Football. 1431 01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,120 Speaker 1: They did it with Russell Wilson and returning where they 1432 01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,720 Speaker 1: did to Seattle could be a different spin on it. 1433 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,080 Speaker 1: Vikings Seahawks. How about to open the season? 1434 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:18,920 Speaker 2: I love it all right, get it down right, a 1435 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,479 Speaker 2: good and then someone will win something. I don't know why. 1436 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:23,800 Speaker 2: At Dan Firo on Fox where you find Dan, find 1437 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,640 Speaker 2: me over at Swollen Dome. Time to turn over to 1438 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,360 Speaker 2: the news desk can back Get back to our guy, 1439 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 2: Isaac Low and crowd for an update of what's going 1440 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:31,439 Speaker 2: on at our sporting universe. 1441 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,879 Speaker 4: The answer is a lot. Starting with today's NBA Playoff 1442 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,840 Speaker 4: Action tipic off at three point thirty Eastern with Game 1443 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,880 Speaker 4: four from the Mile High City and Denver holding a 1444 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,000 Speaker 4: two games to one lead over the Oklahoma City Thunder. 1445 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,559 Speaker 4: In Game three on Saturday night, the Minnesota Timberwolves what 1446 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 4: at Golden State on two to ninety seven for a 1447 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,280 Speaker 4: two games to one lead. Anthony Edwards scored thirty six. 1448 01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,559 Speaker 4: Julius Randall had a triple double. In Major League Baseball. 1449 01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,120 Speaker 4: Right now, the Mets and Cubs are tied at one 1450 01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:00,920 Speaker 4: at the top of the six. Mets got on the 1451 01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,439 Speaker 4: board in an RBI triple by Luis Torreenz. Cubs tied 1452 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,160 Speaker 4: it on a home run though by Pete Crow Armstrong, 1453 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,320 Speaker 4: his tenth home run of the season. The Cardinals, on 1454 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,920 Speaker 4: a home run by Lars Newt Bar his sixth home 1455 01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,920 Speaker 4: run of the season, have a one nothing lead at 1456 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 4: Washington at the top of the first inning. Ironically, I 1457 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 4: was hungry once and I had a Lars Newt Bar 1458 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,599 Speaker 4: in my appetite was staved off a little longer. Today's 1459 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,240 Speaker 4: Stanley Cup playoff action faces off at four point thirty 1460 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,600 Speaker 4: Eastern from Dallas with Game three and the Stars in 1461 01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,000 Speaker 4: Winnipeg Jets tied at one win apiece. Thrilling finish on 1462 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 4: Saturday night as the Vegas Golden Knights want at Edmonton 1463 01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,200 Speaker 4: four to three. Riley Smith the game winning goal with 1464 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,320 Speaker 4: zero point four to play in the third period of 1465 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,559 Speaker 4: Edmonton still leaves the series two games to one. Finally, 1466 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,639 Speaker 4: one other hockey note, with this being Mother's Day, Gritty, 1467 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 4: the irrepressible mascot of the Philadelphia Flyers, posted the following 1468 01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,639 Speaker 4: today on social media. Quote, tell your mom, I said, 1469 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,400 Speaker 4: thank you, thank you for everything. She'll know what that means. 1470 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:08,679 Speaker 4: Oh boy, easy there, Gritty, take it easy there, Bud 1471 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:09,679 Speaker 4: back to you guys. 1472 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,400 Speaker 2: Wow, Gritty getting after it at Isaac Lowencron if you 1473 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:16,679 Speaker 2: want to try to decode that and give him some messages. Yeah, 1474 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,400 Speaker 2: I just polluted his timeline at Dan Yer on Fox 1475 01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,639 Speaker 2: where you find Dan, find me over at Swollen Dome. 1476 01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,559 Speaker 2: Find Chris at Chris Purfett. Check out what he's doing 1477 01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,240 Speaker 2: with the product Detroit stuff as well. As we continue on, 1478 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,559 Speaker 2: we've got an NFL trade and some predictions for the 1479 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,920 Speaker 2: NBA games later on today. So much going on. We'll 1480 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,960 Speaker 2: do it here next on Fox Sports Radio, Greedy is 1481 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,880 Speaker 2: and welcome back in final a couple of minutes for 1482 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 2: us here at Fox Sports Radio. Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Carmen, 1483 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,720 Speaker 2: Dan Byer with you coming up in ten minutes. You've 1484 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,040 Speaker 2: got Hartman and Husky taking you into the day as 1485 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:51,040 Speaker 2: we get ready for more playoff action to NBA playoff 1486 01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,920 Speaker 2: games today. So we've got action on the pitch, baseball games, 1487 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 2: have everything flowing already. Also, be sure to check out 1488 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel a ton of great 1489 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 2: videos from many of our Fox Sports Radio shows. Search 1490 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,400 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see a bunch 1491 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,640 Speaker 2: of video highlights from all over the network, and be 1492 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,160 Speaker 2: sure to subscribe and evangelize. You always have instant access 1493 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,000 Speaker 2: to our Fox Sports radio videos here on YouTube Dan. 1494 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 2: We've got a veritable Pope Mari. In terms of what 1495 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,720 Speaker 2: we laid out of potential topics for today, there are 1496 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,880 Speaker 2: thirty five stories. Right, there's lots of like little things. 1497 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, you just want to have that moment. Now, 1498 01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,519 Speaker 2: let's do a quick week in review. I was in 1499 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:34,200 Speaker 2: Chicago as a new pope is installed in certainly some 1500 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,840 Speaker 2: communication and rumors that he was a cub fan, and 1501 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 2: we had a text message text chain going through family 1502 01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,680 Speaker 2: and my cousin goes, yeah, he's a trader of Southsider 1503 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,840 Speaker 2: blah blah blah like my dad. And then that was 1504 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,400 Speaker 2: later debunked and he is a Sox fan, and here's 1505 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,000 Speaker 2: images of him at the two thousand and five World Series. 1506 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,200 Speaker 2: By all of that, it made for a very strange 1507 01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:58,800 Speaker 2: forty eight hours. I got a picture with some guy 1508 01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,280 Speaker 2: dressed like the Pope on Friday night. I just thought 1509 01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,200 Speaker 2: it was I will lean into the bit. But you 1510 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:07,439 Speaker 2: want to talk about merchandising and opportunity there in Chicago. 1511 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:11,439 Speaker 1: It's everywhere I was. My TikTok feed is still full 1512 01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:15,640 Speaker 1: of Pope stuff. My main takeaway and It took me 1513 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,680 Speaker 1: days to realize this, and I'm going to bring it 1514 01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:22,720 Speaker 1: back to sports, not through baseball, but the conversation. I 1515 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:26,360 Speaker 1: think a lot of us enjoyed the spectacle of what 1516 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,320 Speaker 1: we saw on Thursday, the drama and then it hits 1517 01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 1: home when you find out that the pope is now 1518 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,240 Speaker 1: a Chicago native and what was discussed a bit. I 1519 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,760 Speaker 1: know Cavino and Rich did it on Thursday and talked 1520 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:42,559 Speaker 1: about the spectacle of just the situation with the crowd, 1521 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,679 Speaker 1: the drama, the building, the announcement. It was a great show, 1522 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,200 Speaker 1: and you and I have talked about Lebron's decision and 1523 01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,040 Speaker 1: how that TV show I think should be every free 1524 01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:57,240 Speaker 1: agent scenario because there was drama to it. But what 1525 01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,800 Speaker 1: I didn't recognize until yesterday until really thinking of what 1526 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:05,200 Speaker 1: was also great about it, zero leaks. It did not 1527 01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:10,840 Speaker 1: leak out of the Vatican on who was going to 1528 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 1: be pope, So there was drama with it all until 1529 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,840 Speaker 1: we got to the announcement and fresh off the NFL 1530 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,719 Speaker 1: Draft and coming up with the NBA draft, the old 1531 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:24,000 Speaker 1: tipping picks argument. Yeah right. The reason why it was 1532 01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,960 Speaker 1: so great to see aside from the fan or the 1533 01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:32,479 Speaker 1: spectators and everybody coming out on the balcony and the 1534 01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,800 Speaker 1: curtains being moved, and the white smoke was because we 1535 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,439 Speaker 1: didn't know and we didn't know who it was going 1536 01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,120 Speaker 1: to be, and there was so much drama because there 1537 01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,360 Speaker 1: were no leaks. And that's what I think is my 1538 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,519 Speaker 1: biggest takeaway of how great it was, because in this 1539 01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,400 Speaker 1: day and age, everything is leaked and we didn't know 1540 01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:50,920 Speaker 1: what that was. 1541 01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,920 Speaker 2: Go over with a giant changeover and the Cardinals the 1542 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,560 Speaker 2: last couple of years. Now you start going into the 1543 01:17:56,240 --> 01:18:00,240 Speaker 2: math and the background. Fifty five to one shot if 1544 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,120 Speaker 2: you in limited betting, so a pretty good return for 1545 01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 2: you there for the Pope. Now Oklahoma and Texas, A 1546 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,200 Speaker 2: and M. This was just a little note because I 1547 01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:13,040 Speaker 2: say why they're named SEC Softball co champions. After the 1548 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,479 Speaker 2: title game was canceled due to weather. We couldn't reschedule 1549 01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,280 Speaker 2: it for another day, couldn't hold over one day. 1550 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,000 Speaker 1: Isn't there a football facility where you could just throw 1551 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:24,599 Speaker 1: a diamond, throw some basses out. 1552 01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,640 Speaker 2: There, feel like you could have gotten gotten that in so. 1553 01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:28,960 Speaker 1: That at Athens, Georgia doesn't have that. 1554 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,559 Speaker 2: You can't do it all right, And then we got 1555 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:34,479 Speaker 2: George Pickens getting traded to the Cowboys. Mike Tomlin, as 1556 01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,719 Speaker 2: you would expect, said, nah, I got nothing to add 1557 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,439 Speaker 2: to any of the conversation. Omar Kahn saying, good deal, 1558 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,200 Speaker 2: a lot of folks saying I wouldn't have touched this 1559 01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:45,400 Speaker 2: guy whatever, Like it's part of the reason he was temperamental, 1560 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,120 Speaker 2: that the quarterbacks couldn't throw him a good football. It's 1561 01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,000 Speaker 2: one thing Dak Prescott can do. We can have a 1562 01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 2: lot of complaints about Dak Prescott, but he might actually 1563 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,639 Speaker 2: be able to bring out the best. To George Pickens, 1564 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,639 Speaker 2: I say, if you're in go take your shot. 1565 01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,439 Speaker 1: I just can't believe this trade happened after the draft 1566 01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,040 Speaker 1: and thinking about it now, thinking about it from both sides. 1567 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,360 Speaker 1: So if Pickens is a failure, the Cowboys are going 1568 01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,040 Speaker 1: to still be paying for it next year. So it's 1569 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,479 Speaker 1: a debt that they owe. It's not gonna be off 1570 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,920 Speaker 1: their boats. And if you're the Steelers, what have you gained. 1571 01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,320 Speaker 1: You've now just lost another weapon for Aaron Rodgers or 1572 01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,040 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph and then you have to wait around for 1573 01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,960 Speaker 1: it to sure sounds It seems like a move for 1574 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,599 Speaker 1: the future, but the timing of it to me was crazy. 1575 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,759 Speaker 2: Well, they say that Alan Lazard might show up in Pittsburgh, Anya, 1576 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 2: that'll fit you. Okay, so even the series today? 1577 01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,519 Speaker 1: Yes, I like the thunder to win. Here you go. 1578 01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,280 Speaker 2: He's Dan Byro on My Car and Hartman and Husky 1579 01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:34,360 Speaker 2: next here on Fox