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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature Feature, a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied

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Speaker 1: psychology and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, Hey,

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Speaker 1: is your refrigerator running? Will you better go catch it

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Speaker 1: and stop the appliance, singularity and uprising that will lead

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Speaker 1: to our inevitable downfall. That's right. Today, we're taking all

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Speaker 1: your prank calls as long as you're a bird. Animal.

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Speaker 1: Pranks aren't always just for fun. They can be crucial

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Speaker 1: for survival. We're going to fall down a web of lies, deceit,

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Speaker 1: and outright mockery. Discover this and more as we answer

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Speaker 1: the angel question. You can pick your nose, you can

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Speaker 1: pick your friend's nose, but can you pick a monkey's nose?

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Speaker 1: Joining me today to start our own YouTube prank channel

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Speaker 1: is co host of Gamefully Unemployed Devious Friend of the Pod.

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Speaker 1: David Bell. Hi, thanks for having me on. I love

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Speaker 1: pranking animals. It's what I do. It's it's it's one

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Speaker 1: of my my favorite hobbies. Yes, yes, we know all

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Speaker 1: the pranks you play on your cat, like the fake vomit.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of like a payback though, because you your

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Speaker 1: cat lays out real vomit for you. That's true. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: when she's sleeping sometimes put her paw and a little

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Speaker 1: bowl of warm water and then she peas and then

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Speaker 1: I have to clean it because she's not going to

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Speaker 1: do it. Sounds like these these pranks are sort of

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Speaker 1: a piric victory. Yeah. We're also joined by our wonderful producer,

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Speaker 1: Joel Monique. Hi, guys, how are you ready for some

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Speaker 1: some pranks? Some Ashton Kutcher. What was that show called

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Speaker 1: pranks Pump? I'm a prank. I gotta tell you, I

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Speaker 1: wish somebody would come around here and prank me with

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Speaker 1: some water balloons or something. It is scorching. I'm ready

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Speaker 1: to hear about the antics of others because I just

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm yeah, yeah, I actually we are going

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Speaker 1: to talk about some watery pranks. And it did just

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Speaker 1: make me jealous that I wasn't the one getting pranked.

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Speaker 1: Have you guys seen these like prank YouTube channels sure,

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Speaker 1: where it seems like they just the whole premise of

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Speaker 1: it is they go around being mean to people and

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Speaker 1: then they call it a prank, like prank like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't like that. I think there's a clear distinction

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Speaker 1: between like a good natured like oh you fell for it,

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Speaker 1: and a person whose feelings are legitimately hurt. That's why

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Speaker 1: the best genre on YouTube is pranks gone wrong, where

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Speaker 1: someone does a prank and it goes really bad for them.

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Speaker 1: Ye are we thinking of the same video? Possibly the

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Speaker 1: one where the guy like throws a tiny net on

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Speaker 1: someone and runs through them all and a guy karate

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Speaker 1: kicks him. It's like, don't go run around? Well, what

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Speaker 1: can you say? You know? The one I was thinking

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Speaker 1: of was a guy dressed as like a Yeti or something,

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Speaker 1: hid in a trash can and sprung out of the

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Speaker 1: trash can and the guy that he startled just punched

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Speaker 1: him right in the face. I love that. I love

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Speaker 1: it because it's like it's a perfect example to teach

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Speaker 1: people about fight or flight responses, because a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are going to have the flight response of like

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Speaker 1: jump back, run away. This guy had the fight response,

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Speaker 1: which was punched this thing right in the face, immediately move.

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Speaker 1: I gotta respect somebody who's always on their toes. And

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Speaker 1: it looked like he knock him out cold, like that

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Speaker 1: guy drops into you. It's not nice, right slumps right

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Speaker 1: back into the trash. The only time I feel sorry

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Speaker 1: for people who wear that, Like the fight or flight

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Speaker 1: thing kicks in when like you're trying to spook someone.

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Speaker 1: Is like, if you're at a haunted house and you're

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Speaker 1: an employee of the haunt house and you spook someone

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Speaker 1: and they punched, It's like, dude, you're you're in a

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Speaker 1: haunted house. You should be expecting this to happen, Like,

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Speaker 1: don't do that, right, that's literally while you're there, right,

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Speaker 1: it'd be weird if you were there by some accident

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Speaker 1: you did not. As a scaredy cat who loves being scared, uh, frequently,

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Speaker 1: I have been dragged places that are too scary for

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Speaker 1: my own good, and then I feel overconfident and I'm like, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I totally got this, not at all afraid, And then

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Speaker 1: I scream in someone's face like a child because I've

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Speaker 1: like I had a friend Hannah growing up, who was

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Speaker 1: scared of just anything. We would watch terrible horror movies

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Speaker 1: She's screaming I would love to take her to haunted

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Speaker 1: be afraid. You know. Maybe maybe give her a pair

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Speaker 1: of like those big inflatable sock em boppers on her

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Speaker 1: but just won't hurt anyone. And that would be fun.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be fun? Like you go to like a

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Speaker 1: Steal Katie's idea and make the nineties sock 'em boppers

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Speaker 1: commercial but with the outtakes from the horn sock'm boppers

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Speaker 1: was like a ghoul and a scared person. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I'm really here for this. So our first animal prankster

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Speaker 1: really perfected these sneaking up on its victims and startling them.

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Speaker 1: In this case, it is to kill them, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: So I don't it's like prank I'm not sure that

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Speaker 1: constitutes I'm gonna say, isn't it? I mean, but It

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Speaker 1: and sort of the subter few which it's just it

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Speaker 1: does actually end in a murder. This is like slashing

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Speaker 1: someone's tires and being like, I pranked you. It's like, no,

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Speaker 1: you you just vandalized. Smacking someone with a baseball bat

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Speaker 1: pranked you. Lord. Well, one of the smartest, most wise

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Speaker 1: crack and spiders in the world is named Porscha. And

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Speaker 1: she said lovely. Yeah. Also you put you immediately put

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Speaker 1: the image of a spider laughing with like wise cracking,

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Speaker 1: I think this one probably does, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: and it's sort of spider way maybe a sort of

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Speaker 1: a wiggle of the chillis arrae probably, But yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is a genus of jumping spiders that are some of

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Speaker 1: And they have to be so clever because they actually

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Speaker 1: them into becoming prey, and they will hunt spiders many

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Speaker 1: these in particular called the fringed jumping spider or Porsche Fimbriata,

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Speaker 1: which is a lovely, lovely gal. She's got these long

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Speaker 1: gams with these it's she almost looks like she's on

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Speaker 1: stilettos because the rest of her body is fluffy, kind

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Speaker 1: in this more like careful motion. But it is she

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Speaker 1: Platform's what we're trying to say is she's a model. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say they're about like can they fit in

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Speaker 1: They could get right in that ear. They're about um,

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Speaker 1: how how big is that is? It a snug fit.

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Speaker 1: they're about like the size of a fingernail, So definitely

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Speaker 1: can fit in your ear. Just snug fit, a snug snuggle,

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Speaker 1: sort like earbuds, except that your buddies and they're little spiders,

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Speaker 1: of spiders. They're deeply disturbing. They get right in that

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Speaker 1: ear and then they give in your ear like instead

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Speaker 1: your ear, going like spiders spiders. This might be prejudice,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think I could be friends with a spider.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that we would be good buddies. I

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Speaker 1: she's a stunningly intelligent and brave spider, I will honor

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Speaker 1: by acknowledging her greatness very very far away. What about

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Speaker 1: like the Charlotte's Web spider. No, even Charlotte's horrifying and

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Speaker 1: probably would be killed immediately in my house. A spelling spider.

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Speaker 1: Now it's intelligent. Can it hold a grudge like Ravens?

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Speaker 1: It's out, We're done across the line. That's well. Unfortunately, Joel,

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Speaker 1: you may not be a big fan of this Porsche

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Speaker 1: spider because they are extremely spookily intelligent. So so there

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Speaker 1: are a few ways that these Porsche trick other spiders

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Speaker 1: into becoming their prey. One is to hop onto the

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Speaker 1: web of another spider and then carefully pluck the strand

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Speaker 1: like they're playing a harp to entice the spider out.

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Speaker 1: Because the spiders rely on this sense of vibration to

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Speaker 1: That reminds me of the Treehouse of Horror where Bart

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Speaker 1: But they will like, say, the spider shows up as

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Speaker 1: it's strumming the web and then it's huge, and the

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Speaker 1: It starts to do this very gentle, mesmerizing stroke of

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Speaker 1: it into this falseness of security. And then the Porsche

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Speaker 1: of spiders, it's really good at moving in these like

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Speaker 1: so it just like strums the web really soothingly takes

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Speaker 1: Because it has extremely potent venom that especially affects other spiders,

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Speaker 1: with spiders. It has this incredible effect. What an amazing jerk.

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Speaker 1: I'll bite it. Real it's a great D and D character. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a fighting tech totally. Yeah. Researchers think it may

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Speaker 1: say no, no, no. I say this with much pain

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00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: in my heart as someone who loves birds. But yes,

423
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta hand it to the snake. Though.

424
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: This is ah. It's not just that its tail looks

425
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: like a spider, but the puppeteering of it is really professional.

426
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: It's like a Jim Hinson style puppet shaped like a burger,

427
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: like like a McDonald style burger Mayor of Cheeseville, whatever

428
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: his name is, and he's like, hey, kids, come over here,

429
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: and then and it's like this happy muppet burger and

430
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: I'll you like skip after it. And then it's just

431
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: attached to this giant demon that I'm imagining the Swedish

432
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: chef getting this in as like an ingredient like they

433
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: were gonna. I love Swedish Chef, but I can't do

434
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 1: his voice. I'm terrible at it. He's just like around

435
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: the table trying to catch a bird. Beautiful board board.

436
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: Remember the first SpongeBob SquarePants movie where it's like basically

437
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: Um Hillenburg, the guy who made SpongeBob used to be

438
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: a marine biologist. So a lot of the jokes in

439
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: SpongeBob show and understanding of marine biology, and one of

440
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: them was like basically a spoof on the deep Sea

441
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: Anglerfish where it was this giant monster who's lure was

442
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: shaped like a little old lady offering them ice cream.

443
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: A classic, and the joke there is like the specificity

444
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: of being able to evolve basically to look like a

445
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: little lady offering ice cream. But this is essentially that,

446
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: Like it's it gets that complicated. It's amazing, Yeah, it's

447
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it really looks like the second picture. It

448
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: looks like a damn spider is like clung onto its tail.

449
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: It's one horrifying thing revealed to be another. This is

450
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: definitely a damn nature you crazy moment. I'm trying to

451
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: think about the evolutionary like path of how he gets

452
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: his steal. It's how I would evolve because this snake learned,

453
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: you know what, I want to just not move, let

454
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: the food come to me. I want to move as

455
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: little as possible. I just want to I want to

456
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: bait something and then gobble it up immediately got what

457
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: it wanted. Yeah, is there a Pixar film and a

458
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: lonely spider befriending another spider that turns out to be

459
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: the snake's tail and the snake feels like it doesn't

460
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: want to tell the spider because then the spider will

461
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: be portrayed. Well. I like this. It's sort of a

462
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: Cyrano de Bergerac kind of story where like the snake

463
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: think like the spider falls in love with the snake's tail,

464
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: and the snake falls in love with the spider, but

465
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: it's afraid that if it reveals that this is just

466
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: a form of aggressive mimicry, that then the spider won't

467
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: love it anymore. But then it turns out at the

468
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: end the spider really did love the snake the whole time,

469
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter that they're two entirely different species.

470
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: It's like a less tragic ending to the squirrel saga

471
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: and the Sword in the Stone that broke my heart.

472
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: The little squirrel. Yeah, like in Merlin, Merlin turns a

473
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 1: child version of King Arthur into a squirrel, and a

474
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: little squirrel falls in love with him, and then he

475
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: turns back into the human and she cries. Yeah, he

476
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: has to break up with a squirrel, imagining having to

477
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: do that. What I wanted to happen is for Merlin

478
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: to turn the squirrel into a human, but with the

479
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: squirrel brain. So the squirrel is just like a romantic Katie.

480
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: It's just like, no, they move all together, right, right,

481
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: But then the squirrel just has like a squirrel brain,

482
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: and and she's just like chewing on nuts all the

483
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: time and like it, like and this is Queen jenever Chip,

484
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: why not? I mean, why not? When we return, we're

485
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: actually going to talk a little bit more about squirrel hijinks,

486
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: speaking of which, so we will be right back. That's

487
00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: very promising. A classic prank is putting out a fake

488
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: spider to startle someone, which is a done prank. But

489
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: what else can you expect from a prank that involves

490
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: spreading anti spider propaganda. Arachnophobia, the fear of spiders, is

491
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: very common phobia, and treating phobia's involves exposure therapy, where

492
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: you're introduced to your fear incrementally. But treating or acnophobia

493
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: can be tricky. After all, it's hard to train a

494
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: spider to sit still while someone gets used to its presence.

495
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: But some researchers are looking into how virtual reality may

496
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: help people with our acnophobia by having them explore digital

497
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: worlds with digital spiders. Personally, the concept of a spider

498
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: with AI scares me more than a regular, fluffy, real

499
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: world spider. But hey, maybe Sunday I'll welcome our virtual

500
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: spider overlords. When we return, we're going to talk about

501
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: the pranks that squirrels pulled that are driving me nuts.

502
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:03,719
Speaker 1: So we were just talking about that horrible, traumatizing scene

503
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: in the Sword in the Stone Disney film where the

504
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: squirrel falls in love with the transformed king Arthur, who

505
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: was like, or I guess he's not a king yet,

506
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: just a little brat who gets turned new squirrel. They

507
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: fall in love, and then Merlin's like, no, we gotta

508
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: turned back into humans, Like screw these squirrels, and it's

509
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: horrible and the squirrels are sad, right because back in

510
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: the day kids movies wanted to traumatize us on many right, right,

511
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: like you gotta you got any parents you love? Oh,

512
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: don't worry, we'll kill them. Oh yeah, oh those parents

513
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: are going down, Mickey Mouse, just with like a bloody

514
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: baseball back going like nice parents you got. There would

515
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: be a shame of anything happened to them. But yes,

516
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: squirrels lead a very complex life, even without the hijinks

517
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: of an insane wizard. So squirrels like to hide nuts,

518
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: such as the durn gray squirrel. But there are a

519
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: lot of nut hiding species of squirrels and they need

520
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: these nuts stashes to survive the winter, so it's very

521
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: important for them. A problem, though, is that other squirrels,

522
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: when they see one squirrel hiding a nut, it's like, well,

523
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just gonna take that nut. Though there's no

524
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: squirrel law, there's no there's no squirrel code of honor.

525
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: It's just like it's a it's a squirrel nut nutty

526
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: squirrel eat nut nut world, a nutty nutty nutty world.

527
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: So squirrels are will bury these nut caches um and

528
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: in order to stop other squirrels from stealing their nuts,

529
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: they will kind of have this arms race of deception.

530
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: So squirrels will scurry over to a location, dig a hole,

531
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: shove something inside the whole bury it, cover it with leaves,

532
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: and then if you're that squirrel stalker and you dig

533
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: this up, you're going to find a whole bunch of

534
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: nothing because you just got squirrel pranked. Oh is it?

535
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: Is it at least like like a little a little

536
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: squirrel message, like a little yeah, it's a little note. Yeah,

537
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: it's like a little note and says I owe you

538
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: one nuts, sucker. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And so they

539
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: will sometimes do this multiple times just to throw these

540
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: other squirrels off their tails, basically like oh, you think

541
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm putting my nut in here? You think it's going

542
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: in here? No, no, it's not. And then they scurry

543
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: off to another location. So they really try to trick

544
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: each other into digging up the wrong nut. The squirrel world,

545
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: it sounds like every squirrel is living out their own

546
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: version of the film No Country for Old Men, where

547
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: like he has the suitcase full of cash and he's

548
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: trying to he's trying to keep it away like every

549
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: everything is just The more I learned about squirrels, the

550
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: more it seems like all they think about is nuts,

551
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 1: and everything everything that they do in life revolves around

552
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: the importance of nuts. It does. Yes. Actually, in college,

553
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: for one of my classes, I had to go and

554
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: observe squirrels nuts, which may as you can imagine as

555
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: a freshman in college, like trying to make new friends

556
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: is really good for sort of my social profile, Like oh, yeah,

557
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: there there's someone sitting next to squirrels, muttering like, go on,

558
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: get the nut, get the nut, pick it up. Go on,

559
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: pick it up, your little bastard, pick it up. I

560
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: don't know if you had to mutter, yeah, but was

561
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: the muttering was optional? Dave, you know nothing about observational studies. Anyways,

562
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: The point of this, like class exercise, I think, was

563
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: to see, like we basically planted these nuts that had

564
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: a little some of them had little holes in them,

565
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: some of them had um no holes. And it was

566
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: basically to see like when a squirrel suspects there's a

567
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: worm inside of acorn, like a larva eating the inside,

568
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: sometimes they'll choose to immediately eat the nut because if

569
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: they bury it and there's a larva growing inside. The

570
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: larva is gonna like eat the nut and then hatch

571
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: into a moth and the squirrel gets nothing. But if

572
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: the squirrel eats it right, then gets the nut and

573
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: also a little extra protein in the right exactly so

574
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: bost right and or and In another study much like

575
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: that one, where other students were also sent out to

576
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 1: sabotage their own social life by staring at squirrels all day,

577
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: they would try to dig up like, uh, nuts that

578
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: squirrels had buried to like study like these seeds and

579
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: stuff to see like what kind of seeds they're bearing.

580
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: But they had a lot of trouble actually finding these things,

581
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: even after seeing a squirrel dig up a little cash

582
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: and then like barry stuff and they're like, well, there's

583
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: nothing in here, And it's the squirrels were tricking this

584
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: students because the squirrels were paranoid that the students were

585
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: going to dig up their seeds. I guess it's not

586
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: really paranoia if it's true, because it's right. It wasn't.

587
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: It was legitimately an anti squirrel conspiracy. So the squirrels

588
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: were right. The squirrels are watching like I don't think

589
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: humans don't normally watch us this closely. I think those

590
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: humans are up to something right, right, They weren't wrong,

591
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: they were not wrong, And so they tricked the students

592
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: and then so that the researchers of this day were like, huh,

593
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: that's interesting. They're onto us. You gotta move to a

594
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: new town, Fellas. They're onto us. The squirrels are onto us.

595
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: And then they did another study where they actually just

596
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: like intentionally made squirrels paranoid and found that when researchers

597
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: would dig up the squirrels nuts in sight of the squirrel,

598
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: the squirrelled panic, run over to another nutt head buried,

599
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: dig it up, and go berries it's somewhere else, Like,

600
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: this is so much extra stress on these four squirrels.

601
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: We're just trying to make sure they have enough food

602
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: to survive. Yeah. I think the lesson of this episode

603
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: is that the real pranksters, the real jerks, were us,

604
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: the scientists the whole time. I love that there was

605
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: a study that boiled down to we're gonna bother squirrels. Yeah,

606
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna make them paranoid. Yeah, let's let's annoy squirrels.

607
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: And I love that squirrels are like little addicts, like

608
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: they're just like gotta get the nuts, gotta go, oh god,

609
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: oh god, there after my nuts. I gotta dig up

610
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: the nuts. Oh my goodness. Their whole world is nuts.

611
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: Can you imagine this devastation that like like you take

612
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: a nut away from a squirrel, you steal its nuts,

613
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: Like that's its whole world, it's its tove. Most like

614
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: accurate portrayal of an animal in an animated film was

615
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: really Scritch from ice age. Oh yeah, the prehistoric squirrel

616
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: like animal that just all it wanted was that nut,

617
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: and it's spent all four or five movies or whatever

618
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: continually trying to get the nut. In one movie like it,

619
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: I think it like almost died and went to heaven,

620
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: but then it was resurrected, and it was so sad

621
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: because heaven was full of nuts, so it was willing

622
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: to die if it could be with with nuts. Yeah,

623
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: but that is at a moment of sweet release into

624
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: the nut realm and then was ripped from it into

625
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: nut valhalla. Yeah. Now I want to talk about another

626
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: sort of prank situation in order to get food, and

627
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: this one is much more devious than these poor little

628
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: squirrels just trying to protect their nuts. So Joel, I

629
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: have a bird for you too, and you're allowed to

630
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: dislike this one because this is a devious, devious little guy.

631
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Speaker 1: This is called Africa's forked tailed drawn Go and it

632
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: is a black, shimmering bird with red eyes and a

633
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: forked tail like the devil itself. It's literally the devil.

634
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: It literally the devil guy. It looks mean as hell.

635
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: It's got that strong like anime evil brown right above

636
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: its red, bloody red eye. It's small, but you can

637
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: tell that that doesn't condense the amount of hate it

638
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: has for the world. It looks like it's possessed. Yeah,

639
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: it looks like this is the earthly form that Satan

640
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: has chosen. Yeah. It reminds me of the Omen or

641
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: the Witch when whenever Satan shows up in the form

642
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: of an animal in a movie, that's what this animal

643
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 1: looks like. It looks like James Bond's best dressed villain. Yeah,

644
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: it looks like a real jerky and it is so

645
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: the the fork tailed drawn go uh will do these

646
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: alarm calls that warns everybody in the region that a

647
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: predator is coming. So they are found in desert regions

648
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: in South Africa, and birds in general will often issue

649
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: alarm calls to warn other birds, and it's like a

650
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: it's a way to sort of like protect each other. Um.

651
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: And other species of animals like mere cats will also

652
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: issue alarm calls to warn everyone that something's coming. It's

653
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: this this evolutionary trait that a lot of animals that

654
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: find themselves as prey will use in order to protect

655
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: each other from predators. It's citizenship, it's it's camaraderie and

656
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: like having each other's back. I respect it. Now the

657
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: drongo does this, Wrongo, sorry, and I had to. I

658
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: had to do it. You hate to see it, but

659
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: I had to do it. So um they will sometimes

660
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: they do actually warn, do legitimate alarm calls. So something's coming,

661
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: like a predator or a hawk or something, and they'll

662
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: issue this alarm call and it's legit. But once they've

663
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: gained your trust, that's when they start crying wolf. So

664
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: if a drongo sees a mere cat like with a

665
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: tasty little meal, it can issue a false alarm calls,

666
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: so the mere cat will panic and run away, and

667
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: then the druga swoops in and gets a free meal.

668
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: It's like, uh impersonating an officer and breaking up like

669
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: a high school party for free beer. That's exactly what

670
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 1: it's like. That's exactly what that is. Yeah, it's something

671
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: I've never done now of course, not how else would

672
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: like why would you have such a specific example like that. Yeah, no,

673
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: it makes total sense. Yeah, so it's like and it

674
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: also in order to keep animals from catching onto the grift,

675
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: they have developed more sophisticated strategy, so like they will

676
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: learn the alarm calls of other species of animals and

677
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: switch it up so that these these poor little mere

678
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: cats and other animals don't catch on. If the dranga

679
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: would only do its own alarm call, eventually they'd stop

680
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: listening to it. But if it imitates your alarm call

681
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: in another animal's alarm called, then it's it's hard to

682
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: tell when they're crying wolf. So that way it keeps

683
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: it fresh, keeps it mixed up, always changing the grip,

684
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: that's the key. Yeah, this is what Steve Bannon didn't

685
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: realize when he did his whole You always gotta be

686
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: switching up to the grift, right, Like, you can't just

687
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: like stick to one grip because people catch on you

688
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: know why wasn't catch me? If you can, you know

689
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta your doctor one day. Next day

690
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: you're boat Captain. I don't remember that movie, but you

691
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: know it was captain right exactly. Um. Also another bird

692
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: species who's kind of a jerk. Blue Jay's just straight

693
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: up pretend to be hawks. So they will make a

694
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: hawk call and it makes innocent birds scatter, and then

695
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: they very smugly stroll up to whatever seeds and stuff

696
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: the other birds have left behind to eat them at

697
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: a leisurely pace. So what you're saying, if you ever

698
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: see a blue jay get eaten by a hawk, it's

699
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: it's just justice, right, I guess. So any way to

700
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: think about it, I do. I feel like the evolution

701
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: of these birds as they started by going like hey,

702
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: watch out, like they were just snitches. I'm sure the

703
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: predators never appreciate it where they're like, come on, bird,

704
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to eat too. Yeah, And then they learned

705
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: after a while and they're like, hey watch everybody, watch out.

706
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: People would scatter and they're like, oh, there doesn't even

707
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: need to be a predator here. Like it's like I

708
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: warn you, I get a prize and then uh, and

709
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: then it was like, oh, I can just get the

710
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: prize whenever. I mean, I think that's exactly how this

711
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: behavior came about, Dave. And it's it's interesting because you

712
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: do see like you can't have to like in the

713
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: story like of Crying Wolf, if you can't have that

714
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: alarm be too false, otherwise they stopped listening to you.

715
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: So it's this really interesting kind of interplay of like

716
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: switching it up also doing real alarms, like if they

717
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: never actually alerted to real danger, this old scheme wouldn't work.

718
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like it's kind of like gambling

719
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: like a casino. Casinos are very they're created to prey

720
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: on human like reward systems, like our brains, giving us

721
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: reward and dopamine for like seeking prizes. But basically they

722
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: have to pay you out sometimes otherwise you don't want

723
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: to keep playing. So it's the same thing with these birds.

724
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: These birds like have to pay out sometimes have to

725
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: actually have a correct signal otherwise they would get ignored. Right,

726
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's the casino on average is making more

727
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: money than it's giving out. I assume this bird is well, no,

728
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: this bird doesn't even need to worry about that. It's

729
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: just when it's hungry. Whenever it's hungry, it's just like,

730
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll do a fake one right now. Yeah.

731
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're nervous, like the first time somebody

732
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: shops lives and they're like, oh god, if I should,

733
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: it's definitely not morally okay, but I kind of really

734
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: need this lift. Have you guys seen seagulls shoplifting? Oh? Yeah, yeah,

735
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: they they like strolling really casual, like, hey, what's up, Hey, Jimmy,

736
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: how's it going? How's it going? Yeah? Just looking just

737
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: looking at the chips here, just looking at the chips,

738
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: just taking one of these chips, getting out, get out,

739
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: get out. They look like they know what they're doing

740
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: is wrong. They know that they could get caught. Yes,

741
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if they understand that it is morally wrong.

742
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: Also isn't morally wrong? I don't know. It depends on

743
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: the story. You know, if they were in if they

744
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: were in lame Is, like we would these would be

745
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: heroes and they would be played by Wolverine. So what

746
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: if they startently they haven't eaten in envo goal? Like,

747
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: come on, what if though? What if it's like a

748
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: gateway thing where like then they're running bigger griffins, right,

749
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: first artists, then it's bugles, then it's pring goals. Yeah,

750
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: they don't know where to stop. Then they're stealing like vehicles,

751
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: just a swarm of seagulls, like stealing people's cars. Tank

752
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: We don't know how. Then they can't be stopped. No,

753
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: once they get a tank, it's all over for us.

754
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: Seagulls are very intelligent in terms of like being grifters.

755
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: They're very good at um stealing things. They also seagulls

756
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: will have alarm calls that they used to warn each other.

757
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: They also do mobbing behavior, so a group of seagulls

758
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: will bully other birds or bully other predators in order

759
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: to get their way. So there, they really are just

760
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: like mobsters seagulls. Yeah, I don't. I don't think seagulls

761
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: are aware that they are the dominant species on this planet, right,

762
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: Like they must assume they're in charge because they are.

763
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: I mean they are to a theme park, the park

764
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 1: seagull that is a bad seagull, That is a seagull

765
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: that's seen at all. It's also kind of incredible because

766
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: all of our attempts to destroy the world, like all

767
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: of our trash. The seagulls are like, yeah, yeah, do it,

768
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: do it, yeah yeah do food. Waste idiots will eat

769
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: it like sure, yeah, Like you're destroying the planet, but

770
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 1: we're gonna be here. I mean, you're all gonna die.

771
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: But seagulls were doing fine. Yeah, smoldering waste land and

772
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: above it seagulls. Yeah yeah. The crime wolf effect is

773
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 1: found all throughout animal behavior and human psychology. One area

774
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: of interest in studying human psychology is alarm fatigue, which

775
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: describes how after too many false alarms, people will stop

776
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: paying attention from weather alerts to medical device alarms and

777
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: safety alarms. Getting too many false positives or too many

778
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: alert signals in general may train us to be less

779
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: responsive to alarms. Maybe we could learn from animal models

780
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: to understand how to calibrate alarms such that we find

781
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: the correct balance between false positives and false negatives. That

782
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: is to say, studying animal pranks could potentially help improve

783
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: human lives. When we return, we're going to take a

784
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:14,479
Speaker 1: look at some less consequential pranks and general monkeying around. Yeah,

785
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: we will in fact be talking about monkeys too. We'll

786
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: be our back. Why do humans like pranks, at least

787
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: the good fun pranks, not just bullying labeled as pranks.

788
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: Maybe it has something to do with learning deception in

789
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: a way that's playful rather than truly insidious. Or maybe

790
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: it's just to see what we can get away with

791
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 1: while still remaining friendly. But pranking isn't exclusively human, as

792
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: some of our distant hairy relatives demonstrate. So far, we've

793
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: talked about pranks that seem to be mostly for survival

794
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: and like for basically getting food hunting, And now I

795
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: want to talk about pranks that don't necessarily have to

796
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: do with survival. It's just animals, you know, being silly,

797
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: being your being, your Saturday Morning DJ's, you know, like

798
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: beepers and and the and the and the cheese. You know,

799
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: remember beepers in the cheese, Beepers in the cheese, Beepers

800
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: and the cheese. Saturday Morning Radio Classic Classic Beepers in

801
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: the cheese. Everybody, I Love, I Love the cheese is

802
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: bit where he like he calls, like calls the pizza

803
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: place and he's like, can I get it with extra cheese? Right?

804
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: And then they say you got cheese? You just got cheese,

805
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 1: and then the person working at the pizza place like, wait,

806
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: did you know on a pizza? Or I don't, I

807
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: don't get the joke? What right, classic, classic, classic, beeper

808
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: in the cheese. Yeah, So some of the some of

809
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: the best pranksters are primates. And first I want to

810
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: talk about Capucheans or those are like the fluffy things,

811
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: the weird hairy ones. Yeah, they're the ones that are

812
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: They're little monkeys. They are really fluffy. They're brown and

813
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: white with sort of like the white poops on their faces.

814
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: They are very cute and they will play these harmless

815
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: but kind of annoying pranks on each other. So Capucheans

816
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: in Costa Rica will play a lot of pranks on

817
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: each other, and behavioral researchers have been really befuddled by

818
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: their behaviors. So they'll do things like pull each other's hair,

819
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: they'll put their fingers in each other's noses, and then

820
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: they'll pry open each other's mouths, just like little sibling

821
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: peak annoyingness hm. And they are trying they were trying

822
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: to figure out like why they would do this, and

823
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: they're like studying this one monkey named Napoleon who would

824
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: like to go around ripping out tufts of other monkeys fur,

825
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: and then he'd stuff it in his mouth for no

826
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: apparent reason, and then the other monkeys would try to

827
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: pry open his mouth to get their fur back, even

828
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,479
Speaker 1: though it's like once they get their fur back, there's

829
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: nothing they can do with it. It's fur right, right,

830
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: you just took my my butt for like, give it back.

831
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: Many groups of Capuchein's exhibits some of this behavior, but

832
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: there's a particular group in Costa Rica, in Lomas Barbudal

833
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: that displays them with the highest frequency, the most diverse

834
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: repertoire of pranks and intensity, which means that these specific

835
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: groups of Capuchin's have a prank culture which is pretty incredible.

836
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 1: Here's a quote from Sarah brawsnan primatologist who was interviewed

837
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: by National Geographic quote. There's almost a visceral reaction when

838
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: you see one monkey shove their fingers up another monkey's nose.

839
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: It was markable to me that the one who is

840
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: having it done to them was perfectly happy to just

841
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: sit there. That suggests that to them it's important somehow, Otherwise,

842
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: why would they do it I love I love it

843
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: when scientists are confused and don't know what's going on,

844
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: because it's like, there's gotta be a reason why these

845
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: monkeys are shoving their fingers up knows otherwise why would

846
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 1: they do it. Anyone who's watched it two year old

847
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 1: knows there doesn't need to be It's the Simpsons with Stampy,

848
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: where they're like, some animals are just cherks, you know,

849
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 1: like primates are just there, are I right, Like they're

850
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: just they're us at the most basic forum. So it's

851
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: a combination of wanting to do like cool goofs and

852
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: maybe bite faces off, and it's like that's really all

853
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: we have in us too, but we've just found more

854
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: sophisticated ways to do it. We've, through our many many

855
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: thousands of years of evolution, have invented YouTube where we

856
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: do where we shove our right set people's noses. Yeah,

857
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: Like I've seen a prank channel. Again, I don't really

858
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: approve at all of prank channels unless they're actual nice

859
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: pranks that you do with your friends. The old like

860
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: get someone in a box that says like but um

861
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 1: cream on it, and they open it up and it's

862
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: like a Nintendo switch. That's a fun prank. That's a

863
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: fun prank. Yeah, because then you're like, but like, but

864
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: but cream, Like I okay, I guess great, thank you

865
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: for the butt cream, and then you open it up

866
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: and it's something you actually want. But what if they

867
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: were like, oh my thank god, but cream. I didn't

868
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: know you knew. Oh oh my god, can I tell

869
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: I was so afraid to tell you guys about this.

870
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: But I have the worst hemorrhoids and my life has

871
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: been a living hell. Yeah, I'm so grateful that you

872
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: thought to do that. This is life changing. It's like

873
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: it's a switch. Oh okay, I'm sure I'll have lots

874
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: of fun. I'm in so much pain. But one of

875
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: the reasons that researchers and primatologists think they might be

876
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: doing this is they are maybe just like humans. They're

877
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: testing each other's social boundaries in a relatively safe way.

878
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: So it's like seeing like how much do you like me?

879
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: How much do you trust me? Kind of like siblings,

880
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: like when you know you bother your sibling, I want attention,

881
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: and I also want to see like how you react.

882
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: How much are you willing to tolerate? My sister used

883
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: to every time when I'd stand up if I was

884
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: sitting next to her, she'd kick the back of my

885
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: knees as I'm standing up, so I go right back here.

886
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: It works. It works very effectively. I mean, look, I

887
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: do it to her too, so it's you know, I'm

888
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: pretty sure that's still a thing that happens in our household.

889
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: I used to like eat some candy and then like

890
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: trying to perfectly arrange the candy rapper so it looks

891
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: like it's full, and then like hand it to my

892
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: brother and be like, you want some candy? And he

893
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: was like, oh sure, and this is empty, isn't it.

894
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: It's like you just got pranked me. I know it's mean.

895
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: I would give him real candy afterwards, though, break it

896
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: was funny because I kept doing it even after my brother,

897
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: Like every time I had handed He's like, it's you're

898
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: handing me an empty thing candy. No, But then he

899
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: knows he's going to get real kid, so you're conditioning him.

900
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: So another thing that these capuchans d is they will

901
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: pass useless objects back and forth to each other, a

902
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: game that seemingly has no purpose other than to test

903
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: their relationship. To see how much the other monkey is

904
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: willing to like buy into it. It's right, you just

905
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: described capitalism boom roasted got him? Yeah, I mean, what

906
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: are we doing really like right now? What do we think?

907
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: We're hassen useless objects back and forth? That's all. That's

908
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: all it is. My head is spinning. I think I

909
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: think you just I think he just roasted all of humanity, Dave,

910
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: I did. I just solved. I solved everything. We're all

911
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 1: just like right now us doing this podcast like it's

912
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: it's if aliens watched us, and they'd be like, they're

913
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: doing it for like no reason, right, They're like flapping there,

914
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: They're flapping their mouth folds into this useless object for

915
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: no reason. And then other people put these orbs inside

916
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: their ears and listen to the flapping of their mouth

917
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: folds for no reason reason. Yeah. Uh So. One more

918
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: primate trickster is the chimpanzee, who you know, they're quite

919
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: intelligent and they're kind of jerks. So observational research has

920
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: shown that chimpanzees will hide projectiles and wait until the

921
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: time is right to throw these projectiles at zoo visitors.

922
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: Projectiles do you mean poop? It's not always poop, it's there, right, No,

923
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes it's chunks of concrete. Oh no, that's not it.

924
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: That's like when you put rocks in a snowball, not

925
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: a bring. Not funny. I am a d on their

926
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: side though with this, because they're in they're in jail.

927
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: They're in there in so like if I was in

928
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: an animal jail. Yeah, if I was in a like

929
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: a jail, that also, like visitors would get to watch me.

930
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'm I'm pelting as many things as

931
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: I can. These people, it's kind of hard to blame them, right,

932
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: I mean and so, but it's also interesting because they

933
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: show an immense amount of planning in foresight, which I

934
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: love that we learned so much about primate intelligence just

935
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: based on their pranks. Like they're putting so much thought

936
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: into these pranks. So they'll hide cases of things to

937
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: throw at zoo visitors. So they'll like get hay and

938
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: create a pile of hay and then hide like rocks

939
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: and fruit or something underneath it and put it in

940
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: a position where they easily grab something out of it

941
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: and quickly throw at visitors. And this is a dominance behavior,

942
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: like throwing stuff at people. But there is this individual

943
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: chimpanzee uh named Santino of brew vic Sou in Sweden,

944
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: and he seems his whole goal isn't just a dominance display.

945
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: It seems like he really wants to be in these visitors,

946
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: like he wants to hit him because like it's a game,

947
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: because he'll like sit there pretend like he's not doing anything.

948
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: Like he'll have an apple, he kind of casually takes

949
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: a bite out of it, and as a visitor approaches,

950
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: he'll like quickly throw it at them to hit them

951
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: because he's learned that like they back up, Like if

952
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: he holds something in his hand and he looks like

953
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: he's about to throw it, they actually back up, and

954
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: he's like huh interesting, And so now he like hides

955
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: the objects right before he's about to throw it or

956
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: pretends like he's not up to anything, and then suddenly

957
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: throws it and smacks them. This is this has like

958
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: serious uncle energy too, of like snowballs or something where

959
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: it's like you learned after a while that the child

960
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: if they see it coming void you, so you have

961
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: to like surprise throw it at them. Yeah, I get it,

962
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: but it's not just mammals and primates that are capable

963
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:45,959
Speaker 1: of these shenanigans. Octopuses are an incredibly intelligent animal that

964
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: is capable of pranking in this really delightful way. So

965
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: they can squirt jets of water out of their tank

966
01:00:54,440 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: at people or anything they want to squirt, so um,

967
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: they will squirt the water at like marine biologists, handlers,

968
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: at aquariums, anyone that walks by, grad students. They just

969
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: it's like if anyone's coming by and they want to

970
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: prank them or they are annoyed by you, they will

971
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: squirt you. And they've actually had to put like barriers

972
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: up to keep octopuses from squirting people in aquariums because

973
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: they do it with such a frequency. And they even

974
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: have learned in some cases to use jets of water

975
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: to cause power shortages so that they don't have these

976
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: lights on. So octopuses don't necessarily like bright lights. So

977
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: in this one New Zealand lab, this octopus would so

978
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: routinely squirt water at light bulbs and short them, and

979
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: they had to get so many replacement light fixtures that

980
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: it was so expensive to keep this octopus they had

981
01:01:54,640 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: to release it back into the wild. Won like you

982
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: can't keep me chained down. Yeah. I mean it's like

983
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: it's like in Finding Dory the octopus escaping, except even

984
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: I feel like this is even more clever than the

985
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: plot in Finding Dories. It's right, just I'm going to

986
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: destroy your lab until you release me. It's also a

987
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,439
Speaker 1: show for them where they learned, like check this out.

988
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: Every time I squirt this lightbulb, the whole thing happened. Yeah,

989
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: Like someone comes out. They look disappointed and frustrated. They

990
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: have to call somebody who shows up with a ladder

991
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: or like with a with a new light bulb, and

992
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: it's like a whole show. Yeah, and it's they're just

993
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: like rubbing their tentacles together, just going like lights camera

994
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: or wait, sorry, no lights camera. Action. Octopuses are the

995
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: most suspicious creatures on this planet. They look like they're

996
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: up to something. I mean, they are really know what

997
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: they're doing down the well. And we learned a few

998
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: weeks ago that they just die after giving birth sometimes

999
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: is committing suicide. It's crazy. No, I agree though, before

1000
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: like if they because they have such short lifespans and

1001
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: they are similar Paris, so they die shortly after reproduction.

1002
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: They gotta they gotta live while they can they gotta

1003
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: yolo it up? You only octopus once, right, they gotta

1004
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: short some aquarium lights. Yeah. Another thing they do is

1005
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: they like to sneak out of their tanks and steal

1006
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: fish from other tanks and aquariums. And this can be

1007
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: a big problem, Like fish just go missing, and it's

1008
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: now have this fish go missing, and they look over

1009
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: to the octopus tank and it just burps and like

1010
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: a fish skeleton rises to the surface because like they'll

1011
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: they'll go, we'll like they'll sneak out and then return

1012
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: to their tank. They're so sneaky, it's it's really incredible,

1013
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: especially considering that octopuses have evolved, like their brains have

1014
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: evolved entirely separately from like our sort of like evolutionary

1015
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: branch essentially, so that basically like it's inevitable. Pranks are inevitable,

1016
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: like once you have intelligent life. This is the one

1017
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: piece of evidence that maybe convinces me that some of

1018
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: these UFO alien encounters are real, because there could be

1019
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: an alien race that just like pranks the crap out

1020
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: of us. I convinced this person that I probed them. Yeah,

1021
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: maybe maybe aliens do prank us. Maybe octopuses are the

1022
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: alien prank, right, They just threw a bunch of octopuses

1023
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: at our planet and we're like trying to figure that.

1024
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: Isn't that like the plot of Watchmen, like like like

1025
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: rains octopuses in that show, rains squids. But I mean

1026
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: technically the plot was, will bring a giant squid on Earth?

1027
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: People think there's aliens and because there'll be another enemy,

1028
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: like all humans will fall in line and like agree

1029
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: to be friendly because now there's an an apex predator

1030
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: out there for But the truth is that it was

1031
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: just a human pulling essentially a frank on the worlds

1032
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,959
Speaker 1: for peace. But it killed millions of people. It's there's

1033
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: layers and it's not good. I wish what had happened

1034
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: is that the humans then teamed up with the cephalopods

1035
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: in the ocean, because basically this was an atrocity against

1036
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: both humans and cephalopod right, because like raining squid from

1037
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: the sky like that kills the squids too. So if

1038
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: we had teamed up with the cephalopods, like look, humanity

1039
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: and cephalopods now have this common purpose, which is these

1040
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: stupid as superheroes that are like destroying our lives and

1041
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: we team up. You've got aquamand down there, like running

1042
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: them up, being a total snitch, and like interfering in

1043
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: your fish business. Let's team up and form the Human

1044
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: Cephalopod Coalition. M let me here for it. This is

1045
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: my pitch for not just a movie, but what we

1046
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: should actually do in real life. It's a new way

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Speaker 1: of life, a new movement starting right now. You heard

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Speaker 1: it here first, Well, thank you so much you guys

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Speaker 1: for joining me and getting pranked. I feel like a

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Speaker 1: good way of ending the episode would have been play

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Speaker 1: an actual prank on you guys, but it's I feel

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Speaker 1: like the biggest prank right now is just real life. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we are all. I don't feel like it's fair for

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Speaker 1: me to add to that, so I will just genuinely

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. This is thank you, thank

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Speaker 1: you for having me first of all. But also, it's

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Speaker 1: generally not a time to prank people, right, That's good advice,

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Speaker 1: unless the prank, again is like a nice prank, like

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Speaker 1: I got you butt cream. Turns out it's switched, but

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Speaker 1: also butt cream in case you do need it, like

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Speaker 1: that would be the that's like the best prank, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: here's a box full toilet paper that I bought you

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Speaker 1: and it is actually toilet paper? Is that even a

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Speaker 1: prank anymore? Because like it exactly it's like gold right

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Speaker 1: right now. If you TP someone's house, they're going to

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Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, like like that is like a nice prank. Now,

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Speaker 1: like here's some free toilet paper than you. So thoughtful.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I had to be my trees,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna come clean. Yeah, no toilet paper

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Speaker 1: toilet paper like if you and like if you, if

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Speaker 1: you like TP a tree and like a public park,

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Speaker 1: then it's toilet paper for everyone. Yeah, don't do that though.

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Speaker 1: It's a waste of t P and also vandalism. I mean,

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Speaker 1: people have got to get it down. It's a big

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Speaker 1: annoying thing. But just have the modern day t peeing

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Speaker 1: just be you give TP to people in need and

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Speaker 1: then you can still act like a jerk about it,

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Speaker 1: be like yeah, you got t P and then you

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Speaker 1: skateboard away and they're like thank you. And also like

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Speaker 1: unused unused t people who used are like I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: I'm very is that like should specify. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that we needed to, well we did. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we did, though, I don't think we should need to.

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Speaker 1: I know you did. I don't think we needed to.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there was a tacit understanding, you know,

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Speaker 1: when I'm like, hey, we need to get some new

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Speaker 1: toilet paper, not followed up by new or used, right,

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Speaker 1: that's fair? Yeah, I mean yeah, it's just like a

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Speaker 1: conversation around the house. I'm just saying, like podcast instructions

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Speaker 1: of the world, I guess. I guess for legal reasons,

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Speaker 1: we should be as specific as possible. Like a Genie

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Speaker 1: wish gift people with toilet paper, but it's not been used,

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Speaker 1: and it's not so much toilet paper that it like

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Speaker 1: drowns them or something. I guess, you know, no wishmaster,

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Speaker 1: no wishma exactly. No, like monkeys paw toilet paper like

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Speaker 1: it's toilet paper, but it was like made out of

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Speaker 1: sand paper. Sand paper got well, at least she'll be exfoliated. Anyways, UM, guys,

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Speaker 1: do you have anything to plug other than toilet paper?

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Speaker 1: I'll plug my Patreon for gamefully Unemployed patre dot com

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Speaker 1: slash gamefully Unemployed. You can check it out. We have

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Speaker 1: we have all sorts of podcasts. Um and if you

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Speaker 1: meet a spider, be nice and let it, let it

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Speaker 1: get right in that ear. Yeah. Uh, no, banished fighters

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Speaker 1: from your ears. I'm gonna sleep with ear plugs tonight

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Speaker 1: because now I'm terrified. Uh. If you guys are watching

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Speaker 1: the new HBO series Love Paft Country and if you're

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Speaker 1: interested in some behind the scenes what did that mean

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Speaker 1: or where did that come from? You can follow me

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Speaker 1: on the ap club as I recap that series. So

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Speaker 1: much fun. I'm really enjoying it. Uh. It's only the

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Speaker 1: one episode right now so far. Yeah, the second episode

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Speaker 1: comes out if you're listening to this podcast, it came

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Speaker 1: out last and Okay, I'm so excited. I'm both like

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Speaker 1: excited for the show and I'm also so excited to

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Speaker 1: read your take on it. Go. Yeah, me too. I

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Speaker 1: really like the first episode. I'm very excited. I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen it yet, so don't spoil it for me. But

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Speaker 1: it's good good. Yeah, it looks really good. Okay, great. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And you can find us on the internet at Creature

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Speaker 1: Feature Pod on Instagram at Creature feet Pod. On Twitter

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Speaker 1: know I just have my Katie thoughts and as always

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Speaker 1: or hey, wherever you listen to your favorite shows. See

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