WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Trending Up Or Down? 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:08.600 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:20.000 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Talking Cowboys 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:23.400 Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:33.240 Star in Frisco, Sallow Scott Picture Bay. Now your hosts, 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:37.879 Rob Phillips, heck My Harrison, Danny Serek and Kyle Yeoman's 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:46.400 welcome into a brand new edition of Talking Cowboys who 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:51.200 are on a beautiful Tuesday morning, and we are live 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:57.240 from our respective SWBC Mortgage studios remote yet again showing 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.680 off the social distancing in a crazy time. But of course, 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.240 thanks to the hard work of guys like Matt Kent 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:07.160 and Derek Eagleton, Chris Beam, Scott Purcell, we are able 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.319 to bring you a little bit of Talking Cowboys throughout 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:14.119 the week. I'm Kyle Yeoman's alongside heck Ma Harrison and 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.920 Danny Surrect. We will have Rob Phillips joining us here 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.200 in just a couple of moments. But it's just the 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.240 three Musketeers at the moment holding me down the fort 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.120 for Talking Cowboys. But Rob will be here here in 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:29.640 just a couple of moments, and guys, it's like I've 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.560 said before, it's kind of the new norm being remote, 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:36.200 but it's getting to that point where you're either settling 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.440 in or you're kind of driving yourself nuts a little 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.119 bit in quarantine. Heck, if you had any hair at all, 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:43.960 would you be pulling it out right now? Are you 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:48.360 doing okay down there? No, guys, Kyle, No, no, you 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.280 see that Danny See he's coming out fire right and 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.560 I'm cool, I'm cool. But he's on the struggle bus 0:01:53.560 --> 0:02:02.280 because he can't go to the barber. Yeah. So no, man, 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.200 it is I'm having I tell you what, this is 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:09.280 my appreciation. I want to make sure that I say 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.360 this all teachers in the United States of America. You 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.960 guys need a raise, all right, because this homeschool and 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:20.520 is who I mean, I'm taking fourth grade all over again, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:24.640 sixth grade all over again. It is amazing having to 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:26.639 do this. You guys put up with so much. I mean, 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.200 my nine year old I asked her the other day. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:30.760 I said, how'd you get your answer? And she just 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:37.240 said because because you know? And so it's like, what 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.560 do you do with that? You know? There's nothing else? 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:44.040 But it is, man, This quarantine life is bizarre. But 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.400 you know, my wife and I we have spent a 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.200 lot of time together just talking about how you know, 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.600 this is good for our family unit and just being together. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.680 Twenty five eight is a new reality, just to be 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.160 around each other. I mean, I've been man for almost 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.280 twenty years. I think got Smith is much song with 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:06.560 my wife we've been married. But it's hey, man, it's 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.200 it's it's really good. It's really cool. Danny. How's it 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:12.920 going on your corner? It's good. I'm finishing up. Actually, 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:17.040 on week four of quarantine, I was quarantine for about 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.520 two weeks for everyone else because I was actually in 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:23.760 Europe when all this kind of started. So I am 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:25.960 at my parents' house and so because of me, they 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.600 have also been quarantine. But thankfully we all have our 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.160 own rooms so we're able to have some space. And 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.680 you know, I love my parents, and I'm sure my 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.160 dad's watching right now, so i can't say anything other 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.960 than that. Now that's the truth. Now, it's really nice 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.440 like to not, you know, not be alone and have 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.640 other people to talk with. So I'm just trying to 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.640 go outside in my backyard and play with my dogs 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.440 and get some fresh air when I can, and try 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:54.200 and stay moving, no doubt about it, and hopefully we're 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.800 giving everyone out there that is staying safe, staying in 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.400 their homes a little bit of a distraction, and continuing 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.119 to talk about this NFL offseason that's been really kind 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.320 of a big question mark overall. You talk about the 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.160 Cowboys specifically or the league in general, you could put 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.240 it under both. Under that umbrella, we're gonna talk about 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.520 some of the offseason decisions that will be popping up 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.680 for the NFL as a league, but we're gonna talk 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.320 about the Cowboys as well. We're gonna talk about Dez 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.279 Bryan and Dak Prescott and what they've got to do 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.440 or what they've been working out, and also maybe even 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.520 get a little bit into Rex Ryan. But first things 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.880 first here on this edition of Talking Cowboys, we have 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:35.240 the announcement yesterday of the All Decade Team from the 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:38.800 twenty tens, and there were two Dallas Cowboys selected for 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:42.120 the All Decade Team, Tyrn Smith and Zack Martin, both 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:44.640 on that offensive line. You talk about some of the 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:48.320 most consistent players really throughout the course of their career 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:52.080 that we've seen in Cowboys history. I mean, Smith, you 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.120 talk about seven straight Pro Bowls, four time All Pro, 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:59.159 most appearances by an offensive tackle and franchise history. And 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:02.760 then you've got Martin who literally has never not been 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.800 in All Pro since he was drafted in twenty fourteen. 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.000 So I'll open up the question and Danny, we'll start 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.960 with you. Where where does this put these two individuals? Now, 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.120 their careers aren't done yet, and there's still a long 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.520 way to go, seemingly for both of them, whether it's 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.680 in a Cowboys uniform or not, they've still got some 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.200 career left. But where does this rank them in terms 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:26.160 of offensive linemen in Cowboys history? I think this just 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.520 solidifies what a lot of Cowboys fans already think about 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.560 these two. This I think is just more maybe for 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.560 non Cowboys fans, just to see how consistent and how 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.799 powerful they have been throughout an entire decade at this point. 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.840 And so I think that Cowboys fans who have been 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.360 watching this offensive line scene Tyrn Smith seeing Zach Martin 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.159 are not surprised by this because they've seen how well 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.679 they have performed day in and day out and fighting 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:56.839 through injuries. I think the only thing that is a 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.760 little sad about this as not saying Travis Frederick's name 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.000 on because it's really been the three of them this 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.800 entire way, and you know, he's been there literally in 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.080 between the two of them. And so that's probably the 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.039 only thing that makes me a little sad about seeing 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.400 those two offensive linemen on this list is not seeing 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:16.240 that third Yeah. Man, Yeah. The production for both of 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.320 these guys. I mean, Tyron Smith seems like he's been 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.800 on this team forever. I mean, he's been with the 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:24.680 Cowboys for quite sometime, but has been the you know, 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.640 consistent and seeing you know, the latter he gets in 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:32.680 his career, just still playing at a peak level. It's 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:37.080 really impressive. Zach Martin, I mean, every word that describes 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:41.640 a dominating force goes under Zach Martin and what he's 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.000 done for the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, he's a throwback. 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.440 He's a throwback. He could have played in any era 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:51.440 of football just because of the way that he plays. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.280 And i mean there are a lot of questions people 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.640 talk about the All Decade team, but just how did 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:59.080 these guys fit overall? And just the you know, the 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.640 linear of offensive linemen that have played this game, and 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:06.039 so that's it says a lot about what they've done. 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:10.600 But again, Zach Martin Tyrn Smith, and I agree with you, Danny. 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:14.320 To not see Travis Frederick's name associated with this is 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.280 kind of bitter sweet because you know that he's played 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:19.200 at a high level also, so I don't know what 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.440 the book the criteria was for it, but you know, 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:27.640 Travis Frederick definitely should have been on this list as well. Yeah, 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.160 and it's there are a lot of great centers that 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.680 have played over the past ten years or over the 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.160 past decade, and it's really it's not a surprise to 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:37.960 not see his name on there, but you kind of 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:39.840 also had that hope out there as well. But that 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.600 also brings me to the question of is did they 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.920 get it right? Should there have been anybody else on 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.920 that list, or anybody even in the conversation I heard 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.760 somebody talk about Jason Witten. I know Travis Kelsey and 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:54.760 Rob Gronkowski were as dominant as any tight ends that 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.280 you've seen over the past decade, So I don't know 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.640 if even Witton would have been in that conversation, but overall, 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.760 just on the team in general, is in anybody that 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:07.040 was left off that you didn't necessarily think should have been? Yeah, 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.040 I mean, you said Jason Whitnen that was the name 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.120 that I was thinking about Jason Witten and just how 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:15.240 consistent he's been over his career. And I think what 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.040 happens with Jason Witness. He isn't as flashy as run 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.360 Kowski or Kelsey or guys like that, simply because, like 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.320 I said, he's just been consistent this whole time through 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:28.800 these you know quarterbacks that the Cowboy quarterbacks, and so 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.280 I just really I really believe that he was a 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.360 name that was left off. And you talk about his 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:38.320 yardage and being up there with the Tony Gonzalezes, and 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.680 you know, he just he deserved to be on that 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.840 all decade Listen. Again, I don't know what the criteria was, 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.040 but Jason Witten is a name that definitely should have 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.120 been there. I agree with you there, and not only that, 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.640 but also the touchdowns he found what one short of 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:55.400 Dez Bryant's receiving touchdown franchise record. I just I think 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.320 when you think of notable tight ends over the last 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:00.480 ten years, I don't know how you don't include Jason 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:04.319 Witten's name. That would be the one name that was 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.480 left off the less I think should have been on there. 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.800 Now I still kind of I think they got it right. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.960 I think Kelsey and Gronk, at least in the twenty 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:16.400 tens era, I think they were better than Witten in 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:18.240 the twenty tenths. There and now, if you're talking about 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.080 over the span of a career, Witten's numbers will stack 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.319 up next to any tight end in NFL history really 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.080 in the way that he's been able to dominate and 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:30.920 kind of redefined No keeping it in this context, Yeah, 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:34.240 that's that's fair, Kyle. Yeah, you're right, that's a good point. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.680 But within the twenty ten era and within the decade, 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:41.160 I think absolutely at least he's in the conversation. I 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.360 think we all agree that he should at least be 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.560 in there because you talk about some of those early 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.559 twenty ten teams for Dallas Cowboys, and he was really 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.240 the leader and one of the leaders along with Tony 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.920 and DeMarco and some of those other players like Dez 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.040 like you mentioned, and he's he's right there in terms 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:58.679 of that. Maybe if he would have won a super 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.760 Bowl during the twenty tens, maybe there's another conversation that 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.760 should be had there as well. But Bronk and Kelsey 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:06.960 both had a ring in the twenty tens era, so 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.120 it's a little bit different, I guess moving forward. So 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.880 with that being said, Oh, Rob is back. Hey, how's 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:18.760 it going Rob? Hey? Guys? Hi Ro Hi. This is 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:21.240 the social distance life. I'm all set up, ready to go, 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.959 and it shorts out on them. I've had shorts out 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:25.880 on me five seconds before we go on air, So 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.520 I apologize, but I'm here. It's a crusation. I'm been 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:33.079 listening to the whole thing. Anything you want to add rough, No, 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.400 I think y'all covered it by. One thing I would 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:40.520 say about Tyrant and Zach getting this honor is I 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.360 think it puts you on track, puts them on track 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.400 to be in towards the Hall of Fame, I really do. 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:49.760 And whether whether that happens for both, we'll see. But 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:51.560 I didn't talk to somebody that's been involved in that 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.400 Hall of Fame process before and they said, yeah, I 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.800 mean they're they're going to have a case if things 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.120 keep going on this on this current track. Doesn't hurt 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.240 at their cowboys, and if they could find a way 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.920 to get a ring here in the next few years, 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.640 that always helps a quarterbacks case more than anything. But 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.480 I think I think you're talking about both guys in 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.520 consideration for that, I mean, Zach Martin has got a 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.199 chance to be one of the greatest just pure offensive 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.520 lineman ever to play. If if he keeps on this 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.600 track and he makes the Pro Bowl in the All 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:25.760 Pro team every year of his career for twelve thirteen years, 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.240 however long he's going to play, I mean, man, that's 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.920 that's gonna be hard to argue. I think something on 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:32.800 that too, Rob, real quick, as you were talking about 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.360 how the rings help the quarterbacks, I think what helps 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.680 these two is how many league leading rushers they have 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.559 protected for de Mark Murray Zeekee twice and who knows 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.360 how many more times he's going to have it. I 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:45.960 think that's something that also helps them in terms of 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.000 whether or not they would have more likely a chance 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.559 of being in the Hall of Fame for sure. Well, 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.760 and not even just leading rushers, but now in this 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.880 day at age of the NFL, how about leading pastors. 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.640 I mean, you look at what Dad Prescott up numbers 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.959 wise last year, A big reason why he had more 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.480 success in the passing game. Now they were down in 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.400 games late and they were eight and eight, and there's 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.800 that whole conversation to be had about what the stats 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.320 were put up, but he didn't get sacked as many 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.760 times as he did in twenty eighteen. So I think 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.640 you have that conversation of the offensive line last year 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.160 was better than they were in twenty eighteen. Now, Travis Frederick, No, 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.760 Travis Frederick will see what that ends up doing in 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:28.880 twenty twenty. But at least the conversation about leading passers. 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.720 These quarterbacks you've had Tony Romo and now Dak Prescott 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:34.880 that have been blocked for by both Tyrn Smith and 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.080 Zach Martin, and they've both been leading quarterbacks in the NFL, 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:39.760 So I think they deserve a little bit of credit 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.719 for that as well. But we're gonna move on here, 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:44.760 and I've got a quick little game that I want 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.920 to play with you guys before we take our first break. 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:50.400 And I've got four positions here, and we can take 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.760 as long or not on each one of these positions. 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.440 It could be really quick, but I want to do 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:59.240 a trending up and trending down, and basically, over the 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.960 course of the ops, we've talked about the respective moves 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.000 that the Cowboys have made. We've talked about some of 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.160 the additions that they've had on both sides of the football. 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.319 But we're getting into the point where now we're potentially 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.920 getting into offseason programs depending on when everything plays out 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.880 with COVID nineteen and the pandemic. And then also not 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:21.000 to mention, the NFL Draft is just over two weeks away, 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.120 so we're gonna see a lot of talent added to 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.120 this roster before we even really get into practices. So 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.360 I've got four positions trending up, trending down, and I 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.440 want each of your opinions on this. We're gonna start 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.839 with the offensive side of the ball and tight end. 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:38.080 We've just been mentioned Jason Witton at the moment, he 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.920 has been lost and he will leave the Dallas Cowboys 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:45.440 as opposed to adding Blake Bell. Is this a trending 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.840 up or a trending down for the tight end position? 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.600 And I'm talking about the position as a whole, because 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.360 you've got to kind of give in and give that 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:57.080 opportunity to Blake Jarwin. Is tight end one? Now, Yeah, 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.600 I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say trending up, especially with 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:01.960 the aition of Blake Bell. We talked about him last 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.200 week and just what he's going to do for the 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.240 Cowboys in the blocking, in the blocking scheme, and so 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.440 I think that was a quality addition. I don't think 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.680 the Cowboys are finished adding depth to the tight end position. 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.679 I know that it's going to be very competitive behind 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.320 the kind Blake Jarwin, you know, just knowing that they 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.040 want to make sure that they have, you know, at 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.800 every position, but especially at tight end. They solidify those 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.120 guys that can do a lot of different things, not 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:32.160 only block, but also catch, and so Blake Bell again, 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.480 that's we're gonna say we're trending up because of the 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.560 additional Bell. I agree, at the very least, this is 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.440 adding some competition that we haven't seen at this position 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.920 in the last couple of years because Jason Wenton has 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.800 been there and he's held that spot. He's been the starter, 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:47.880 and I think this is exciting from Blake Jarwin to 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.320 kind of step into that front runner spot while still 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.120 getting some competition in this position that we haven't seen 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:58.720 in a couple of years. I'm gonna say trending down 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.200 at the moment, what they chance to trend up. We 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.920 have not seen Blake Jarwin with this mini snaps and 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:06.680 you can argue that he should have had a lot more, 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:12.120 but with young players sometimes they thrive in a certain 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.400 amount of plays and you don't want to give them 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.840 too much. I think he's got a chance in his 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.720 career to grow and become a starter, but we just 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.880 haven't seen it. And just to me, I know Jason 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:25.080 Witten was thirty seven. I know that he's lost some 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.120 of the things that he could do after the catch 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:31.440 and just explosiveness that just comes with age, but losing 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.880 him both as a locker room presence and what he 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:39.000 could still do for you in situations underneath routes things 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.160 like that. I think that's gonna be missed as well 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.200 as the blocking, and we just we haven't seen Blake 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.600 Bell do it. We haven't seen Blake Jarwin do it yet. 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.240 So until I see it on the field, I'll say 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:52.600 without Witten right now, trending down. But obviously they like 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.800 Jarwin's potential and I think he's got potential and talent, 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.560 so there's a chance to trend up here. And I 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.280 think that's a great on Rob's part because if you 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.880 talk about Blake Jarwin last year, he wasn't a starter. Yes, 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.920 because Jason Witten has that ten year and he has 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.560 that experience around him. But it's also because Jarwin was 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.560 a little bit of a liability in the blocking game, 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.720 and so now and if you're talking about yards after catching, 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:21.280 you're talking about experience in terms of explosiveness in terms 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.080 of catching the football. I think you are upgrading at 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.040 the position, whether it's Blake Bell or Blake Jarwin. But 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.640 I think overall you're gonna have to see exactly what 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.360 Bell could bring to the blocking game. Maybe for the 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.200 running game. It just kind of depends on what he's 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.800 able to do. And if Blake Jarwin ends up blossoming 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.160 into the type of receiving tight end that you think 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.720 he could end up being moving forward, Let's move on 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:46.400 to the defensive side of the ball, and I've got 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:50.960 three positions here, most notably just because there's been more 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.400 additions on that side of the football so far. But 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:55.560 we'll start with corner. And this one is a little 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:59.200 bit easier because you lost Byron Jones, you add Maurice Kennedy, 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:02.160 and then you rese and Anthony Brown, so there's an 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.800 added emphasis on corner. But I'm going to throw this 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:11.200 in there to kind of make it different. Let's say 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:15.320 they pick a corner at seventeen in the first round 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.000 of their draft. Is there an upgrade there? Is it 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:23.200 still a downgrade with Byron Jones leaving. I still think 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.040 it's a trend down situation for now because you're younger 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.920 and you're less experienced, and to your point, Kyle, at 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:33.639 this point, you're trying to just tread water before the draft, 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:35.400 you know. I think Kennedy is a guy that can 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.800 step in and help you, especially on special teams. I 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.439 think they feel good about that, and that's important to 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:42.240 add a guy like that to help because that was 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.359 a problem for them last year, especially in the coverage 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:48.399 units and on field goals. But yeah, I mean losing 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:52.080 Byron Jones it hurts. I think you can know what 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.119 you can do with that is be able to spread 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:57.320 out your money in different ways where that salary would 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.120 have gone. So in the long run it can maybe 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.439 help your depth overall. But you've got to find a 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:05.480 way to fulfill that spot. Now. Maybe Jordan Lewis steps 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:09.040 up and becomes more of a big time player for him. 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.439 Maybe the coaching, maybe the change in the coaching with 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.320 the secondary coaching, can help. But they've got to find 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.880 a way to create more turnovers. I know, Byron Jones 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.119 that was a knock on him for that, but he 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.720 was their best corner the most productive player, most consistent guy, 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.080 and they haven't they have yet to for sure fill 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.520 that role. Yeah, I'm gonna agree with everything Rob just said. 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:31.760 For me, this is still trending downward. I think a 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:33.840 big part of it, for the reason it could move 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.879 upwards is depending on who they draft. I mean, the 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.640 Cowboys struggled with interceptions, but more in that, like Rob 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:42.600 just said, Byron Jones, it was his coverage. Teams didn't 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:44.760 even want to throw to him, and that's a huge 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.919 loss at cornerback. And so I just I don't know 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.720 how confident I feel quite yet that we the Cowboys 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:54.600 have someone who can replace Jones in his production level 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:58.840 quite yet. Yeah, we're all in agrance on this. I 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.880 feel like that the cornerback position we have not there's 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:06.240 so many intangibles. Basically, the guys did not prove that 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:08.320 would I mean, and then you take Jones out of 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:11.840 the equation and with the younger guys, I just don't 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.000 feel comfortable with him. I don't trust what we've done, 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.760 even in free agency at Kennedy like you said, is 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:23.160 more of a special teams addition than anything else. We 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:27.520 have to approach the draft with trying to get that 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:30.880 get that cornerback or get that that Yeah, to get 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.720 that cornerback that we know that we can trust. On 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:36.720 one side of the ball. Are still in free agency, 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:39.720 get that cornerback that we know that we can trust, 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:41.639 and let the other guys do that thing in nickel 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.560 and dime packages. But right now we that's one of 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:46.840 our weaker areas when you start looking at where we 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:50.840 are and hypothetically, if the season started today, these guys 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:52.840 would be starting that that would be you know, these 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:55.480 guys would be what we would have. And you know, 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:59.560 I don't know how I trust a rookie coming into 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:01.879 a guy we try we get a cornerback in the 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:04.000 in the draft, I don't trust it. It doesn't matter 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.560 if he's played into the SEC Big twelve, no matter what. 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.800 The NFL level is going to be completely different and 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:11.960 one of the any of those deficiencies that the new 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:15.320 guys come in with, they're gonna be picked apart. So again, 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.119 I think we still have to try to solidify the 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:22.200 cornerback position with a veteran even if we do go 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.240 in and get a guy in the draft, which I'm 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.399 sure we will. Yeah, I think you know that's go ahead, 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.360 go for it. Rob. Well, it's a good point, by heck, 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:34.440 because I'm trying to think back of to young corners 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:37.560 that the Cowboys have drafted and have they had immediate impacts. 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:39.480 And I mean my first year cover in this team, 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:43.040 Terrace Newman, was pretty good. He was a top five pick, 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:47.040 I believe, but you know, when they drafted Cheeto and 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:51.040 Jordan and Xavier Woods, it took him a little time. 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:53.359 You know, it took him towards the end of the 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.400