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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, Sallow Scott Picture Bay. Now your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, heck My Harrison, Danny Serek and Kyle Yeoman's

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Speaker 1: welcome into a brand new edition of Talking Cowboys who

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Speaker 1: are on a beautiful Tuesday morning, and we are live

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Speaker 1: from our respective SWBC Mortgage studios remote yet again showing

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Speaker 1: off the social distancing in a crazy time. But of course,

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Speaker 1: thanks to the hard work of guys like Matt Kent

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Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton, Chris Beam, Scott Purcell, we are able

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Speaker 1: to bring you a little bit of Talking Cowboys throughout

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Speaker 1: the week. I'm Kyle Yeoman's alongside heck Ma Harrison and

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Speaker 1: Danny Surrect. We will have Rob Phillips joining us here

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Speaker 1: in just a couple of moments. But it's just the

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Speaker 1: for Talking Cowboys. But Rob will be here here in

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Speaker 1: just a couple of moments, and guys, it's like I've

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Speaker 1: said before, it's kind of the new norm being remote,

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Speaker 1: but it's getting to that point where you're either settling

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Speaker 1: bit in quarantine. Heck, if you had any hair at all,

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Speaker 1: would you be pulling it out right now? Are you

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Speaker 1: doing okay down there? No, guys, Kyle, No, no, you

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Speaker 1: see that Danny See he's coming out fire right and

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Speaker 1: I'm cool, I'm cool. But he's on the struggle bus

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Speaker 1: this all teachers in the United States of America. You

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Speaker 1: guys need a raise, all right, because this homeschool and

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Speaker 1: is who I mean, I'm taking fourth grade all over again,

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Speaker 1: sixth grade all over again. It is amazing having to

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Speaker 1: do this. You guys put up with so much. I mean,

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Speaker 1: my nine year old I asked her the other day.

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Speaker 1: I said, how'd you get your answer? And she just

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Speaker 1: said because because you know? And so it's like, what

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Speaker 1: But it is, man, This quarantine life is bizarre. But

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Speaker 1: lot of time together just talking about how you know,

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Speaker 1: this is good for our family unit and just being together.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five eight is a new reality, just to be

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Speaker 1: my wife we've been married. But it's hey, man, it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's really good. It's really cool. Danny. How's it

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Speaker 1: on week four of quarantine, I was quarantine for about

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Speaker 1: two weeks for everyone else because I was actually in

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Speaker 1: Europe when all this kind of started. So I am

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Speaker 1: at my parents' house and so because of me, they

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Speaker 1: than that. Now that's the truth. Now, it's really nice

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Speaker 1: like to not, you know, not be alone and have

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Speaker 1: giving everyone out there that is staying safe, staying in

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Speaker 1: to talk about this NFL offseason that's been really kind

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Speaker 1: first here on this edition of Talking Cowboys, we have

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Speaker 1: the announcement yesterday of the All Decade Team from the

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Speaker 1: the All Decade Team, Tyrn Smith and Zack Martin, both

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Speaker 1: these two. This I think is just more maybe for

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Speaker 1: if even Witton would have been in that conversation, but overall,

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Speaker 1: it going Rob? Hey? Guys? Hi Ro Hi. This is

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Speaker 1: the social distance life. I'm all set up, ready to go,

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Speaker 1: and it shorts out on them. I've had shorts out

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Speaker 1: I apologize, but I'm here. It's a crusation. I'm been

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Speaker 1: listening to the whole thing. Anything you want to add rough, No,

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Speaker 1: I think y'all covered it by. One thing I would

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Speaker 1: say about Tyrant and Zach getting this honor is I

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Speaker 1: think it puts you on track, puts them on track

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Speaker 1: to be in towards the Hall of Fame, I really do.

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Speaker 1: And whether whether that happens for both, we'll see. But

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Speaker 1: that always helps a quarterbacks case more than anything. But

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Speaker 1: as well. But is this a trend up for trend

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Speaker 1: down for safety overall? And this is before the draft,

430
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Speaker 1: without any draft picks even being mentioned. I think I'm

431
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Speaker 1: going more trending down right now. I think Jeff he

432
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Speaker 1: I know, I think I just think Jeff Heath was

433
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Speaker 1: a really good tackler and the goat. He was the goat, right,

434
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Speaker 1: I mean, all right, David h Yeah, right, though he

435
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: was a gun. I mean still to the leadership. I mean,

436
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: he was one of the captains, and he's been here

437
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: for so long, and I just I don't know that haha.

438
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 1: Clinton Dix is as strong of a tackler for people

439
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Speaker 1: that are watching. I know, Bucky Brooks is our new

440
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: staff rider who was a scout, wrote something really good

441
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Speaker 1: about kind of an assessing haha, Clinton Dix's play, And

442
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Speaker 1: I just don't know that this has really increased their

443
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Speaker 1: depth a's safety enough after Jeff Heath. Yeah, I'm gonna

444
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Speaker 1: say trending up for the safety position. I mean, how

445
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Speaker 1: Clinton Dix over Jeff Heath, I think is for me

446
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Speaker 1: as a no brainer as far as an upgrade at

447
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Speaker 1: the position, I think his range that Clinton Dix has,

448
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Speaker 1: I mean that I believe that that's that's going to

449
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Speaker 1: be a parent immediately. As far as the athleticism that

450
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Speaker 1: Clinton Dix is gonna bring to that defense and so there,

451
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Speaker 1: I mean the strong safety Xavier Woods, all of that.

452
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Speaker 1: I think that the combination of that boat, I think

453
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Speaker 1: both of them together, it will be an upgrade for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I'm with Heck, I'll say trending up, and

455
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Speaker 1: that's not a knock on the goat man because I

456
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Speaker 1: think he was under And then I'm not knocking the

457
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Speaker 1: goat either. Rob. Yeah, I know, I know. I mean

458
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Speaker 1: I think he was underrated in Dallas. I think I

459
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: think fans gave him too much crap for some certain

460
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Speaker 1: plays that happened. But I think they'll miss him, especially

461
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Speaker 1: on special teams. And to Danny's point, I mean he

462
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Speaker 1: was solid in certain areas, that no question. But I

463
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Speaker 1: don't think Haha is just a box safety. From what

464
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: I've watched of him, I think he does have range.

465
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Speaker 1: I think he's got twelve career picks. They need more

466
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: of that. They need more of guys ball hawking, trying

467
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Speaker 1: to get turnovers. And obviously I think McCarthy knowing him

468
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 1: will help maybe put him in the right spots to

469
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Speaker 1: be successful. I like this pick up a lot. I

470
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Speaker 1: think so as well. I mean it's in a low

471
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Speaker 1: risk scenario. I mean it's one year, four million dollars

472
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Speaker 1: and then at the same time you look at you

473
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Speaker 1: look at on tape he's versatile. He's a little bit

474
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Speaker 1: more of a guy you could throw back as a

475
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Speaker 1: free safety if you really wanted to. As a veteran

476
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Speaker 1: in the league. He also could bring some experience to

477
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Speaker 1: a young secondary with Cheeto and Jordan and Woods and

478
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Speaker 1: everybody there. But also, I'm a little bit worried, and

479
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Speaker 1: I see where Danny's coming from saying trending down just

480
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Speaker 1: because on tape it looks like, ha Clinton Dix has

481
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Speaker 1: a couple of moments where he's a little afraid tackle

482
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Speaker 1: and I don't think Jeff he Feather had ever had

483
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: that issue. It was more of overselling than underselling. So uh,

484
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Speaker 1: it's it's interesting. I would probably at the moment stick

485
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Speaker 1: with trending up, but I it's teetering right on that edge,

486
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Speaker 1: and I think it could go either way. Okay, final one,

487
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Speaker 1: before we take our first break, defensive line, and I'm

488
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Speaker 1: gonna lump in edge rushers and defensive tackles together because

489
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Speaker 1: they've added Alden Smith, Dontaripo, Gerald McCoy and at the

490
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Speaker 1: moment they've lost Michael Bidet, Robert Quinn, MALIEK. Collins. Is

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Speaker 1: this a trending up or trending down? On the defensive line.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's not fair. It's tough. This is this is

493
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Speaker 1: by far the one that i've fair because it's too

494
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: answers that defensive tackle, you have your trending up, you've

495
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: got bigger guys, which I think goes more to the

496
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 1: new coaching statue though, But then so I think defensive

497
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Speaker 1: tackle would be trending up and defensive end is way down.

498
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you lost Robert Quinna free agency. It's like

499
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Speaker 1: all the way at the bottom. You lost Robert Quinna

500
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: free agency, who was the team sack leader last year.

501
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: And so we still don't know what's going to happen

502
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Speaker 1: with Tyrone Crawford. He had two hip surgeries, so we

503
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: don't know what his production level is going to be.

504
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: We don't know if Randy Gregory is going to be reinstated.

505
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: He didn't play last year. And the Cowboys just signed

506
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Speaker 1: Alton Smith who hasn't played in four seasons, who also

507
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: has not been reinstated, and he was great when he

508
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: was playing, and he played with Jim Tomsula in San Francisco.

509
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: The Cowboys need defensive line coach, But I don't know

510
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: how you don't miss a beat when you haven't played

511
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: him so long, and I think that right side, Okay,

512
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Speaker 1: I've come to my answer, Kyle, I think that right

513
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: side is still so much of a loss that it

514
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: is overpowering what you have gained at tackle. So for me,

515
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: defensive line is trending down. I came to my answer.

516
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: There you go. See it's fair, Rob. You want me

517
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: to go go ahead? Heck, all right, so I can

518
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: see it. Look, I'm gonna say trending up. And the

519
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: reason I say trending up obviously done. Terry Poe, Jerald

520
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: McCoy's this is no Brandon. We still have Tank Lawrence,

521
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: all right. I mean I said this a couple of

522
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Man, he was long ranger with no Tonto

523
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and now he's got a

524
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: few of them now. Um the alder Smith edition, and

525
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: even with the questions with Crawford, Um, look, I just

526
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: feel like, honestly, Aldon Smith is going to be a

527
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: player that you're gonna rotate. He's not gonna be your

528
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna be in there. Every player and this

529
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: and this whole defensive line is defensive front has got.

530
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: These guys are gonna have limited snaps, Uh, it's true.

531
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you have someone that's you know, you'd

532
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,239
Speaker 1: have to be sleeping under rock to not know some

533
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: of the struggles that Aldon Smith has had. But if

534
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: you watched him coming out of Missouri and the career

535
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: that his college career he had in his first two

536
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: years in San Francisco, the kid was all world. I mean,

537
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: and you know, look guy, he's had his struggles. We've

538
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: seen what has happened. But this contract that he's gotten,

539
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this could be a great redemption story for

540
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: Aldon Smith. I mean, but he's gonna have to prove it.

541
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: Everything that's in his contract is saying that he doesn't

542
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: have nothing. He's not gonna get anything easy. I mean,

543
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: if he spills a cup of coffee at the start,

544
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: he may get cut. I don't know. I'm just telling

545
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: you that this is a situation where, you know, and

546
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: a lot of people have opinions about this signing. I mean,

547
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: there are a lot of nay says, a lot of

548
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: people that don't believe that Alder Smith should have been

549
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: given this second chance. But I really look at the

550
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: totality and seeing that look a guy like him, and

551
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: you know that just knowing based off of this edition

552
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys are going to play that inverted four

553
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: three three four defense. Alder Smith in that bicycle stands

554
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: coming from the outside, being able to spell either Tank

555
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: Lawrence or on the right side. He's gonna give us

556
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: some reps if he can give us. If Alder Smith

557
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: can be seventy percent of what he was four years ago,

558
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: it's going to work out perfectly for the Cowboys, and

559
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: he's going to be a guy that's going to be

560
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: able to help these other guys implement this new system.

561
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: I just don't even know how nobody. Nobody really does.

562
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: And so that's the thing. I mean, there are guys.

563
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: Even when we start talking about Randy Gregory, you talk

564
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: about the games that Randy Gregory has played and then

565
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: the suspensions. A lot of people are more more and

566
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: they're anticipating Randy Gregory over this and over the Alden

567
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: Smith signing. But it's probably one A, one B. Because

568
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: of the talent that Alvin Smith has, you definitely have

569
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: to be more excited about him as a player as

570
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: well if you're excited about Randy Gregory. It's an interesting signing.

571
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: We've seen them makeup signing like this before in the

572
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: past with guys that about off the field issues, and

573
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: they've had mixed results with it. But it's unfair. I

574
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: think heck to to lump guys all together, you know.

575
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: I think Alden's Smith's case is his own case, his

576
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: own situation that he's had in the past, and I

577
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: think it does help having Jim Tomsula here because the Cowboys,

578
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: unlike moves they've made in the past with guys that

579
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: have had some baggage, they they know him, they know

580
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: him personally, and they know his story, and I think

581
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: that helps. And the other thing is Rob Davis, the

582
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: assistant head coach that they've hired interesting higher because he's

583
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: not an XS and o's coach. He's a player developmental

584
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: guy and Mike McCarthy trust and I think that's that's

585
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: a really interesting hire. The Cowboys also have their own

586
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: good people in that role that will be helpful for

587
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory Alvin Smith if they get reinstated. So there

588
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: are question marks, and that's why I'm tempted to say

589
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: it's trending down because you're to Danny's point, I mean,

590
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: you're losing a guy that got you eleven and a

591
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: half sacks last year and you really haven't replaced that.

592
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 1: If Tyrone Crawford comes back healthy, you know, I'm such

593
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: a fan of his versatility, I feel a lot better.

594
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: I do think they're trending up from where they were

595
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: three weeks ago, but there still are question marks, and

596
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: I think it may it may take having more of

597
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: a middle rush rush up the middle with the guys

598
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: that they've aired in McCoy and Poe. Can they help

599
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: the pass rush that way from flushing quarterbacks out of

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00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: the pocket from that middle rush. Yeah, And we've talked

601
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: about the size inside trying to stop the run. But

602
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: I will say Carolinas struggled against the run last year.

603
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's all on those two guys, but

604
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: there were some some problems in Carolina's run defense. So

605
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: I mean, there just are enough question marks to make

606
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: you feel like it's trending downward. If everything falls into place,

607
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: I think we might see a real trending up situation.

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00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: Because I know to x point and what people have

609
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: said in the media, they're calling Alvin Smith it's like

610
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: a It's like a lottery ticket. If he comes back

611
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: and he's he's what he was five years ago on

612
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: no guarantee type salary. Man, you really might have something here. Oh,

613
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Speaker 1: I'm so hopeful. Turn your point, Rob, if Tyrone Crawford's

614
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: able to come back, if Ranny Gregory's able to come back, Kyle,

615
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: you know a lot about this. There's a lot of

616
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: really good pass rushers in this draft too, so I

617
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: think there's a chance for this to really turn around.

618
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: But if we're talking right now today, I would say

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Speaker 1: trending down, but hopeful. I like that because, no doubt

620
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: about it, there's depth that's being added, whether it's at

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Speaker 1: the defensive tackle spot or pending the reinstatement of Randy

622
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: Gregory and then Alvin Smith as well, so plenty to

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Speaker 1: talk about. Whenever you talk about the defensive line, we've

624
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: gone a little bit long. We're going to step aside,

625
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: take our first break of the day. When we come back,

626
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Speaker 1: we'll have a conversation about the NFL offseason. Of course,

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Speaker 1: the draft now officially being all virtual, what does that

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Speaker 1: So go check out the draft magazine. It's a ton

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Speaker 1: talking about that draft, and there was news that broke

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Speaker 1: by the Commissioner that they should be able to or

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Speaker 1: be ready to conduct their draft process fully virtual. So

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Speaker 1: ultimately it makes it into your fantasy draft, which is

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Speaker 1: like you having your fantasy draft with a bunch of buddies,

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Speaker 1: except there's millions of dollars involved and you know, actually

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Speaker 1: real lives and being changed in the moment. So it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit different than your fantasy draft. But ultimately

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Speaker 1: you're you're gonna be remote. You're gonna be making these

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Speaker 1: pigs and Rob, we're gonna start with you just from

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Speaker 1: being around this process before. Oh Rob, we lost Rob,

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Speaker 1: So no, we're gonna start with heckma instead. How about

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Speaker 1: this hecma. Looking at the NFL Draft overall, what is

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Speaker 1: going to be so different about the fact that it's

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Speaker 1: so virtual because you're not even gonna have war rooms,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have the war zooms to be around. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean one of the ones all of that that

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Speaker 1: NFL sent the email out about, you know, everyone being

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Speaker 1: virtual for the draft. I immediately was thinking about the

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Speaker 1: special that NFL Network did on our ESPN did on

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy and his year off from football and basically

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Speaker 1: he and his guys getting together and basically doing everything

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Speaker 1: from a virtual standpoint. I think that's a strong suit

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Speaker 1: for him and his guys because they've kind of already

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Speaker 1: lived in that world. But it's gonna come down when

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Speaker 1: you start looking at across the NFL. You're really it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a telltale sign about those gems and scouting

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Speaker 1: departments that don't have that synergy, that are not together

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Speaker 1: on their draft picks. They're they're struggling right now because

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Speaker 1: there may be from one through ten so things that

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Speaker 1: happen that may completely shake up the draft because of

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Speaker 1: this whole virtual world that we're in. And so, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a new world. And I know that

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Speaker 1: for guys that have not been used to being able

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Speaker 1: to go out and see these guys, like all the

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Speaker 1: pro days were canceled. I mean you talk about, you know,

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Speaker 1: guys that underperformed because they were nervous at the combine

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Speaker 1: and not able to kind of reassert themselves in their

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Speaker 1: pro day, and everything kind of being you know, virtual,

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Speaker 1: everyone going on and skiping and it's like the swipe

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Speaker 1: to the left kind of technology system that the coaches

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Speaker 1: are having to use in order to find players. Now,

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Speaker 1: I really think this is going to be a very

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Speaker 1: interesting ride come Draft Day. I think the ramifications of

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Speaker 1: all of this have already started. I mean, hecknet you

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Speaker 1: just mentioned that the scouts have not been able to

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Speaker 1: have pro days. They haven't been able to have these

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Speaker 1: visits at the facilities, and not only players who might

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Speaker 1: have been a little nervous at the Senior Bowl or

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Speaker 1: the Combine, but what about those players who weren't even

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Speaker 1: invited to either of them, who were really looking forward

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Speaker 1: to these pro days. I mean, this is really just

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Speaker 1: going to put the Scouting department making sure that they

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Speaker 1: have been doing their work all year, really focusing on

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Speaker 1: the film, and just having to overcommunicate about what they

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Speaker 1: have seen from this point on. And we've already seen

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Speaker 1: on the Dallas Cowboys social media that they are conducting

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Speaker 1: some interviews over like video calls on their computer. When

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Speaker 1: it cuts to the draft specifically, I think about all

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Speaker 1: the logistics. I think about someone's computer freezing or their

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Speaker 1: internet not working, or when they're having to get on

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Speaker 1: the phone to offer trades and figuring things out. And

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Speaker 1: you've got twenty people in a war room. You can

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Speaker 1: see when someone's talking, but then what if there's a

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Speaker 1: lag and then every one's talking over each other. I

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Speaker 1: just I worry that not even for the Cowboys, but

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Speaker 1: for every team, it's just going to be a bunch

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00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: of chaos. So I'm sure having these video conferences that

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Speaker 1: the Scouting Department is doing with the coaching staff or

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Speaker 1: these interviews is also kind of helping them figure out

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Speaker 1: a little bit of like chemistry on these video calls.

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Speaker 1: But it's also just really sad. I mean, I love

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Speaker 1: seeing the emotions on the family members when these players

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Speaker 1: get called and you watch them walk up to the stage,

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Speaker 1: and it's just it's really sad that. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: makes sense, there's really nothing that can be done otherwise,

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Speaker 1: but it does make me sad that these rookies will

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Speaker 1: have that experience kind of taken from them. Yeah, Danny,

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Speaker 1: you're spot on with that when you say it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: because I've been watching the draft for so long when

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Speaker 1: it's in Radio City Music Hall and you see these

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Speaker 1: guys and their family members are all huddled around them,

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Speaker 1: and it's just an exciting moment for me as a

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Speaker 1: guy that this just loves football. No that guys' lives

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Speaker 1: have been forever changed by being drafted, and I love

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Speaker 1: seeing that. I love seeing the reactions from sisters, brothers, mothers, fathers,

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Speaker 1: you know, and it's exciting. But I also think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is the greatest league in the world,

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Speaker 1: and the NFL is going to find a way to

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Speaker 1: make this, you know, as intimate as it has been

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Speaker 1: all of these years, with the families now being in

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Speaker 1: their home setting and being with their loved ones and

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Speaker 1: being able to still enjoy it. Like you said, all

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Speaker 1: of this is going to be reliant on technology and

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Speaker 1: just with the new world that we live in. Look, guys,

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Speaker 1: this show has been changed. I'm in my living room,

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Speaker 1: you know, doing so everyone's trying to adjust, and I

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Speaker 1: think for the greater good, we understand why this is happening.

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Speaker 1: And this is probably one of the you know, probably

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Speaker 1: the most unique draft scenario that we've ever situation that

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Speaker 1: we've ever seen. But I know that guys are still

786
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Speaker 1: going to be excited. But you talk about the general

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Speaker 1: managers and the scouting departments, these guys are gonna have

788
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Speaker 1: to be on the same page and making these decisions

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Speaker 1: in real time no matter what. And so yeah, if

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Speaker 1: someone's feed, I mean, you gotta know that. You know,

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Speaker 1: AT and T is gonna have the broad band going

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Speaker 1: directly to Jerry and everybody else. But the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: not gonna have any problem with our feed. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: make sure that we get that taking. I don't know

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Speaker 1: But that's a shameless plug for a T ANDT. But guys,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just one of those things. This is

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Speaker 1: a new reality that we live in. And so again

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Speaker 1: I think that the divide is going to happen with

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Speaker 1: those general managers and scouting departments that may not be

801
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Speaker 1: on the same play page, and coaching staffs that may

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Speaker 1: not be on the same page. We are blessed to

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Speaker 1: have Will Will, Will McClay excuse me, boy, Will McClay

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Speaker 1: uh and Stephen Jones. You know, these guys have been

805
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Speaker 1: working together through countless you know, through these drafts, and

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Speaker 1: they have they have they operate with the same mind.

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Speaker 1: They know exactly what they want, and coach McCarthy is

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Speaker 1: already voiced to these guys what it is that he's

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Speaker 1: looking for. So even like you said, also, Danny, I'm

810
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Speaker 1: skipping around because you made a great point about free

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Speaker 1: agent signings, those pro days being canceled and teams going in.

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Speaker 1: You may go in looking at one guy at a

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Speaker 1: position and then you see a whole another guy you

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Speaker 1: know that wasn't on your radar. So all of those

815
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Speaker 1: things being said, a lot of these guys have had

816
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Speaker 1: to do their home or double time to make sure

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Speaker 1: they get it right well. And you even talk about

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Speaker 1: a new coaching staff and the logistics being involved, kind

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Speaker 1: of tying your two points together, Danny, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: the logistics. I mean, as Mike McCarthy gonna have to

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Speaker 1: click the rays the hand function on the video call

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Speaker 1: in order to have his input with Jerry and Steve

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Speaker 1: in there, like, are these legitimate things. It's funny to

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Speaker 1: think about because you're gonna just have to click the

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Speaker 1: little hand that's on the video call. But how much

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Speaker 1: input are these coaching staff is gonna have because in

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Speaker 1: the past, usually the scouting staff brings it to the table.

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Speaker 1: And you've had picks that have been influenced by coaches.

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Speaker 1: I mean we go back to last year with Tristan Hill.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was a Rod Marinellie pick and it

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Speaker 1: was his guy was who he wanted to snag. And

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Speaker 1: you talk about the same thing this year. If your

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Speaker 1: coaches have these guys, these scouting staffs have been around

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Speaker 1: them much longer, they've seen him much more up close.

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Speaker 1: And you guys mentioned the list a little bit earlier.

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Speaker 1: There's three names that we know they've talked to Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts and Zach Bond. So Jalen Hurts the quarterback from Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: Zach Bond the linebackers slash edge rusher from Wisconsin who

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Speaker 1: they have posted videos of interviewing. And then I was

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Speaker 1: confirmed on another sort that Denzel Mims, the wide receiver

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Speaker 1: from Baylor, has had constant conversation with with the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: So there's only a couple of players that we know

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Speaker 1: they've talked to. It's all a guessing game in terms

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Speaker 1: of who they're going to end up taking, who they're

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Speaker 1: looking at, what they're specifically trying to find, whether it

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Speaker 1: comes to seventeen or even later in the draft. So

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Speaker 1: I think that disconnect maybe there between the media and

848
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But I'm worried that maybe there might be

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a disconnect between the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: being a new coaching staff, and also the front office

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Speaker 1: as well. But also kind of keeping with this conversation,

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Speaker 1: we've only got a couple more minutes before we need

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Speaker 1: to take our second break. But one final question here

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Speaker 1: and Rob is back. Thanks for rob Us, Glad you're

855
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Speaker 1: back with us, buddy. As anything like y'all's the pre

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00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: draft coverage of the draft coverage on draft weekend. The

857
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Speaker 1: Cowboys are in trouble because video call. We can't have

858
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: Jerry's WebEx going out on him, you know what I mean? Sorry,

859
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: that would be rough. Now, this is a good question

860
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: for Rob, honestly, because we're talking about this NFL off season,

861
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: and yesterday was supposed to be the start of the

862
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: off season programs for individual teams that have had new

863
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: coaching staffs and new head coaches. Of course, Dallas Cowboys

864
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy would have been underway yesterday, but instead

865
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: an email was sent out to the respective teams talking

866
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: about the dead period and during this COVID nineteen virus,

867
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: that players are not allowed at the club facility. Now,

868
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: there are individual workouts that are being had, being led

869
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: by personal trainers. There's still conversations and coaching that have

870
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Speaker 1: been had. There's coaching or instructional voiceovers or audio content.

871
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: You've got superimposed diagrams, schematics and written commentary that can

872
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Speaker 1: be sent and discussed throughout these players and these coaching staffs.

873
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: But it's kind of on pause. It's put the offseason

874
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: on pause, and it takes that advantage away. Rob, what

875
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,479
Speaker 1: does this do for a new coaching staff, the fact

876
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: that normally you would have this head start, but now

877
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: it seems like that's been evaporating. It's stuff. It's stuff,

878
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: and it's like you said, the NFL is trying to

879
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: level the playing field for everybody, just like they are

880
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: with the draft, because in the draft there may be

881
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Speaker 1: certain pockets in the United States that don't have as

882
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: many problems with COVID nineteen. But that's I guess it's

883
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Speaker 1: a competitive advantage if you're allowed certain teams be back

884
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: in their facility. So same thing here. I think according

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Speaker 1: to that memo that was obtained by ESPN, it's you're

886
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: calling it a phase zero before Phase one, which is

887
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: usually just strength and conditioning work for each team. I

888
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: agree with you. I mean, it's it's a tough situation

889
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: for Mike McCarthy because he wants to hit the ground running.

890
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: After that Phase one, you're able to do some on

891
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: field work with your with your players, not on a

892
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: separates basis, not offense versus defense. He's not able to

893
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: do that. I think, you know, it's a disadvantage for

894
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: any new coaching situation in the NFL, the teams having

895
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: to wait for this to clear up, and hopefully it

896
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: clears up as soon as possible. I think if it

897
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Speaker 1: when this thing gets resolved and we're able to get

898
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Speaker 1: back to work and and the Cowboys are able to

899
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Speaker 1: get back into the Star, I assume that advantage goes

900
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: away and every every team just hits the ground running

901
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: at the same time, and you're going to try to

902
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: pack in as much off offseason work as you can. Now.

903
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: Remember the Cowboys are supposed to get if they choose

904
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 1: to a second mini camp, but again, we just don't

905
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: know how much time they potentially could have before the

906
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Speaker 1: start of training camp. There's just so many unknowns right now.

907
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: What's interesting to me and you know, when this is

908
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: all over, and God for hopefully it's over as soon

909
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Speaker 1: as possible. In the future, I wonder if the NFL

910
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: might move towards, you know, pushing back the offseason or

911
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: at least allowing a ramp up to training camp instead

912
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: of this month off and then players who have been

913
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Speaker 1: building towards training camp they don't have, you know, that

914
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: five weeks away, and then they got to get back

915
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: to work in pads. I think that's hard on players.

916
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: Maybe that's going to be something that changes down the road.

917
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: We'll see. But to answer your question, yeah, I think

918
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Speaker 1: as a disadvantage for the Cowboys, especially having a new

919
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: coaching staff. Yeah, the new normal, the new normal is changed.

920
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: All of this is going to be put up for

921
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Speaker 1: consideration how we do Ulta's mini camps leading into two

922
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: of days as well. But the bummer for me, man,

923
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Speaker 1: is that Dallas Day was canceled where you had your

924
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Speaker 1: local guys, your guys from the Metroplex that would come

925
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Speaker 1: in to you to the facility and get interviewed. I mean,

926
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Speaker 1: and you talk about Texas being at high school hotbed

927
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Speaker 1: and guys going on to play in college that are

928
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Speaker 1: from the Metroplate, that metro plays that up dreamed of

929
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Speaker 1: playing for the Dallas Cowboys. I read a story from

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Speaker 1: Mike Fisher on one to five through the Fan outlining

931
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Speaker 1: how they moved Connor Williams interview to that Dallas Day

932
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Speaker 1: and so that he didn't feel up one of those

933
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Speaker 1: other spots where they were having for visitation. Because again,

934
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Speaker 1: guys everybody in the NFL get these visit get only

935
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Speaker 1: so many visits from players, but they do have that

936
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Speaker 1: Dallas Day, which is different for a lot of other

937
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Speaker 1: cities because of the talent that we have right around here.

938
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Speaker 1: So that's again, I think that's one of those things

939
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: that's kind of a bummer because of what's going on

940
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Speaker 1: with COVID nineteen. But Rob, you're absolutely correct, man, a

941
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Speaker 1: lot is going to be changed and the NFL is

942
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: going to have to be forward thinking from now on

943
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: with the way that they schedule a lot of these

944
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Speaker 1: many camps in even two days. That's you mentioned Connor Williams.

945
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Speaker 1: I think Jay Agiu was a guy that they brought

946
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: it on Dallas Day too, who could have easily been

947
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Speaker 1: one of your national visits in the past. And you're

948
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: right that those in person meetings are just they're just critical,

949
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, not only from a medical standpoint, but just

950
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: to get to know guys better. It's just it's just hard.

951
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: We're learning, it's hard to do things virtually, and I

952
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: guess every team's dealing with it, but that's just the

953
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: way it is. I do wonder with the draft if

954
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 1: they're gonna maybe it's gonna be difficult, or maybe you're

955
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: gonna see teams take less chances on guys with red flags,

956
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: either where whether it's off the field or with medical checks.

957
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: Maybe that's something where maybe you operate a little bit

958
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: more cautiously in the draft this year and it could

959
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: end up benefiting or hurting the Cowboys in that sense.

960
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: Whenever you talk about some of the players that are available,

961
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: Javon Kinlaw being a guy who's had some neat and

962
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: the ninus issues at seventeen is one of those that

963
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Speaker 1: is potentially in that conversation. But we'll continue this conversation.

964
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Speaker 1: It's ever forming, ever changing really at the moment, much

965
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Speaker 1: like a lot of things in our world nowadays. But

966
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Speaker 1: we will continue talking about that later. But we're gonna

967
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Speaker 1: step upside when we come back. We'll take a look

968
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Speaker 1: to tell you about main event virtual birthdays. Now, of course,

1011
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: this is being the sixtieth anniversary of the Dallas Cowboys.

1012
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Speaker 1: They've been celebrating and the party doesn't have to stop

1013
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: just because we're all virtual guys. It can continue on.

1014
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Speaker 1: And I know there are plenty of virtual birthdays out

1015
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Speaker 1: there coming up, one including myself. I'm gonna have a

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Speaker 1: quarantine birthday coming up in the next couple of weeks,

1017
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Speaker 1: but like I said, i'll let you know, we'll have

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Speaker 1: with me at two pm on their Instagram stories. They've

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Speaker 1: every day at two o'clock Central time each day to

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Speaker 1: celebrate with the other ones that are also having birthdays,

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Speaker 1: and then specific day. So Main Event virtual Birthdays doing

1027
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Speaker 1: a really cool thing kind of celebrating even those who

1028
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Speaker 1: have some Quarantine birthdays coming up. So I'm going to

1029
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Speaker 1: take advantage of that whenever that day comes around. But

1030
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Speaker 1: we've got about five minutes left here, and there's some

1031
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: topics that happened over the past week that we need

1032
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: to talk about. And this first one, I don't want

1033
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Speaker 1: to put a ton or originally I didn't want to

1034
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: put a ton of information behind just because I thought

1035
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: it was kind of not an okay thing. It was

1036
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Speaker 1: just kind of annoying to me honestly on a personal level,

1037
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Speaker 1: because Rex Ryan against Amari Cooper this past week on ESPN,

1038
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: came out and talked about Amari Cooper about how he

1039
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: had kind of quit on the team, how he was

1040
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: a disappearing act throughout some names as well. But I

1041
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Speaker 1: wanted to kind of get your opinions on this, guys,

1042
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Speaker 1: because I've personally thought it was just kind of it

1043
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: was a little bit out there for me to really

1044
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: kind of put some substance behind it, but I wanted

1045
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: to get your opinion on what Rex Ryan ended up

1046
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: saying and how you think Amari should respond this. I

1047
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 1: was not a fan of this. I don't think many

1048
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: people are even non Cowboys fans were a fan of this.

1049
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: I know we don't have a lot of time, so

1050
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into a long rant about this,

1051
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: but basically Rex was going after Amari's character. It's you know,

1052
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: I think it's one thing if you go and you say,

1053
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: look where was he on the road this year? He

1054
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: wasn't performing as well as he has in years past,

1055
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Speaker 1: and that's true. He was playing through a ton of

1056
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: lower body injuries throughout the season. But to go after

1057
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper's character was just wrong. And if anyone, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm speaking for all of us here. Amari

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Speaker 1: Cooper is one of the most polite. He is one

1060
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Speaker 1: of the most well married professional people in that Cowboys

1061
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: locker room. Even after those games where he did not

1062
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: perform well, that the games where he would leave, he

1063
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Speaker 1: left the game after the first play, what was that

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Speaker 1: the Jets game? I mean, every time he was in

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Speaker 1: the locker room, he was talking to the media and

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Speaker 1: he was answering every question. And he is a very

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Speaker 1: very smart person on and off the field. And so

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Speaker 1: just for Rex Ryan to go after Omar's character was

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Speaker 1: just so false from everything that I have at least

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Speaker 1: experienced with him, and so I was just not a

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Speaker 1: fan of going after him like that. Yeah well, hey, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I just want to say, you know, Jim Levitt and

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Speaker 1: Bob Stoops taught me at Kansas State, Man, you have

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Speaker 1: to have thick skin, because man, in film sessions, you

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Speaker 1: would get called everything except for a child of God.

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Speaker 1: So these guys have grown up under scrutiny, you know,

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Speaker 1: from coaches and everybody around in the community. And look, man,

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Speaker 1: you have to take things in that proper context as well.

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Speaker 1: I mean Rex Ryan is from the loans of Buddy

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Speaker 1: Ryan and so look, the apple doesn't fall far from

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Speaker 1: the tree. So I mean I expected for something like

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00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: this and to come from Rex Ryan. I wasn't surprised.

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Speaker 1: And man, when you talk about the new competitive atmosphere

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00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: of sports broadcast and everyone is struggling for the ratings, ESPN, Fox,

1085
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: all of them, so they're trying to face You're trying

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00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: to fight for headlines and get things to stream and

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00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: go by, you know, things to go viral. And it

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00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: worked for Rex Ryan. I mean they had four point

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Speaker 1: three million views for him calling you know, Amark Cooper

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Speaker 1: out of his name. But let me tell you something, Man,

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Speaker 1: if Rex Ryan was a defensive coordinator in the NFL today,

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00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: you know he'd do he would roll coverage towards the

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00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: same guy that he's talking about, because Amari Cooper is

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00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: an Apex Wilde receiver. I mean, there aren't a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys that's over the top of Amark Cooper. And

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00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: so Amark Cooper has played at a high level for

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Speaker 1: a number of years. And you talk about a guy

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00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: that handles everything with class, you know, and look when

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Speaker 1: that whole thing came out about a mark. What Rex

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Speaker 1: Ryan said. I envisioned Amark Cooper was shopping online for

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00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: new turtlenecks. Man, he's not, you know. And I'm saying

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Speaker 1: this because I'm telling you Amara Cooper stadium walk is mean.

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00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: This guy has that. You know that those suits man

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00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: made out of yoga material with it. Boy, I'm saying

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Speaker 1: that he cleaned every time he walked to the stadium.

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Speaker 1: So I don't care about any of that. Man every

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00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: we know what we had with Amara Cooper, and you

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00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: could call him whatever you want to, but call him

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Speaker 1: a dog. Yeah. When I saw that he was Rex

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Speaker 1: Ryan was trending on Twitter, I kind of rolled my

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Speaker 1: eyes and thought, well, that's what he wanted. He wanted

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Speaker 1: to trend and he did and he got it. He did,

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Speaker 1: he did, he did, He did apologize, which was absolutely necessary.

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Speaker 1: And look, I mean, Amari told us the day after

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Speaker 1: the season ended, I need to be more consistent, and

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00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: that's true. If you look at his home road splits

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00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: last year, they're a mystery. You know. I think there

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00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: were times when I watched him and I'm thinking he's

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00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: not healthy. He's not he's not getting off the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage. I'm just staring at him from the press boxes,

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Speaker 1: watching him off the line of scrimmage, and there's not

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00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: the burst that you're used to seeing. I think also,

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Speaker 1: he just he wasn't as consistent as he needs to

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Speaker 1: be for whatever reason. So there's some validity in terms

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Speaker 1: of they need more out of him because he's such

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00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: a good player, he's one of their best players. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it went way over the line, and I like, heck,

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised considering the source. But you still can't

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Speaker 1: say things like that. You can criticize the players play,

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00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: but you can't go over that line. But that's that's

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00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: the world. That's where we live. Guys. Guys are trolling you.

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00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: Things are happening all the time. And you know, for

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00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan it worked out perfectly. I mean you, it

1134
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: happens all the time when you're watching these these shows.

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Speaker 1: These media guys are crossing the line with players calling

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Speaker 1: them things, and look, man, it's it's uncalled for, right,

1137
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it does not take away

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Speaker 1: from the fact that Almari Cooper is special. He is special,

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00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: and even Rex Ryan knows that if he was on

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00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: the same field, it had guys on the same field.

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00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: He wouldn't leave those guys man to man versus Almari Cooper.

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00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: So he knows what his DNA is and it just

1143
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: taken in the proper text. He was talking about that

1144
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: everyone else receiving contracts besides Dak Prescott. That's what the

1145
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: whole premise in the question was asked to him. But

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Speaker 1: at the same time, he had no right to say that. Well,

1147
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: speaking of he's gown up again, he's been I'm sorry

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00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: he's been productive against top corners. That was not accurate.

1149
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: Howard from Miami slay against Detroit. He's been productive in

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Speaker 1: that regard. I think what he was trying to say

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00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: about being more productive on the road, I get that

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00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: he's right about that, but you can't. You can't attack

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Speaker 1: a guy's characters. Just ridiculous. Yes, by no means, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we've got one topic and this is gonna

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00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: be really quickly but also trending on Twitter. Dez Bryant

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00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: working out with Dak Prescott. Now they've had three separate

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00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: workouts together. The last one happening I believe yesterday or

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00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: the day before, was including Ezekiel Elliott. Is there any

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00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: real substance to this, is there a legitimacy behind Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott working out with Dez Bryant and then also reportedly

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott also saying that does looks really good. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how much Cowboys fans need to look into this.

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01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they're all they're all friends, they all play together,

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01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: they all live locally, and Dez is wanting to prove

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01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: that he is in shape, and Dak and Zeke are

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01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: wanting to stay in shape, and so I think it's

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Speaker 1: more just they're working out for each other and I

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Speaker 1: want to post him, you know, videos, so it's look

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Speaker 1: how good he looks. Look. I've said before I have

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Speaker 1: no problem bringing doesn't to see what he can do,

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Speaker 1: bring him in for a workout. Do I think that

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Speaker 1: that's a realistic option for the Cowboys after signing Amari

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01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: Cooper liking what you've seen in Gallop, how much talent

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Speaker 1: there is in this draft? No, but I don't. I

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Speaker 1: think it's fun seeing them all, and I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is the Cowboys, this is Dez Brian. Of course, any

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Speaker 1: video of him within the six foot radius of him

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Speaker 1: with another Cowboy is going to bring up this news.

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Speaker 1: I don't don't. I don't think there's a there's much

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Speaker 1: behind this. Yeah, I love seeing it. I love seeing it.

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01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: I love the you know that needs was that's what's

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Speaker 1: need to go viral is Dak throwing the Dez and

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01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, look, I agree with you Danny as well.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't be any harm and giving Daz an opportunity

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01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: just to work out if he has any juice, anything

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01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: left in the tank. You know, it would be another

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01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: feel good story to see Dad finish his career as

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Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboys. I mean, man, he was as explosive

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Speaker 1: as anybody. And just seeing him from the beginning of

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Speaker 1: those videos coming out him showing him working out, you know,

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01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: at first I was like, oh my god, Dad looks

1192
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Speaker 1: so slow, but you've seen the progression as it's going.

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Speaker 1: He's just getting better and better and stronger in those routes.

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01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: But again, he's running by himself. There's nobody standing in

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Speaker 1: front of him giving him a bump or anything like that,

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Speaker 1: so we really don't know the kind of shape he's

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Speaker 1: in yet. I think Lanceloor in that group took out

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Speaker 1: the pictures, so then yeah, I mean you can't I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can't read that much into it. It is what

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Speaker 1: it is. I love Daz. I hope, I hope he

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Speaker 1: gets back in the NFL. If it's not here, it's

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Speaker 1: somewhere else. I love his story all the way through

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01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: his career with the Cowboys. But I think for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: you've got to look at the draft right now and

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01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: what could be available to you in the draft to

1206
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: help fill that slot roll that's that's your immediate need

1207
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: is who's going to replace Randall Cobb? And see what

1208
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: the draft presents and then take a look at other

1209
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: options if you don't like what winds up coming out

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Speaker 1: of the draft. But I think that should be their

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Speaker 1: focus right now. And you know, maybe Dez gets an

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Speaker 1: opportunity closer to training camp if there's normal training camp

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Speaker 1: and all that good stuff. Yeah, I will give Dez

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Speaker 1: a little bit of credit because compared to the videos

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Speaker 1: that he was posting three or four months ago, he

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01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: does look better. He looks like he's a little bit

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01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: more in shape and he's finding his rhythm. But I

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Speaker 1: will say the one thing that stuck out to me

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Speaker 1: out of the videos that we're on Twitter, it's the

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Speaker 1: ball's popping out of Dak Prescott's hand. Why you see that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got some velocity on there. He's got a little

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Speaker 1: extra mustard behind it, but that's gonna do it. Here

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