WEBVTT - How Does A Four Day Workweek Sound? It’s Already Happening Around The World

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, that folks, is Friday May first, and have the

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary on this day. One hundred years ago, the five

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<v Speaker 1>day work week was born. Before that, it was actually

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<v Speaker 1>a six day work week, and now some of us

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be Fox and with that, Welcome to this

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Amy and TJ Big Anniversary. Who knew one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years I did not know this. This one snug

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<v Speaker 1>up on me, broj.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I had no idea the facts behind this day.

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<v Speaker 2>May one, nineteen twenty six was the day that Henry

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<v Speaker 2>Ford had the Ford Motor Company there in Detroit go

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<v Speaker 2>into a five day, forty hour work week. It had

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<v Speaker 2>been a six day and that was standard in America

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<v Speaker 2>back in nineteen twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Had no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Do people remember that?

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<v Speaker 3>I houly not many, because you'd have to be pretty

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<v Speaker 3>damn old to know something.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't remember that, like talk, I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>people back in the day it used to be.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they said something days about it was the only

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<v Speaker 2>day that most American workers had off until Henry Ford

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<v Speaker 2>came up with the idea. Had a theory that if

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<v Speaker 2>you gave employees more time off to rest, to relax,

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<v Speaker 2>to take care of their personal lives. They would be

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<v Speaker 2>more focused and more efficient when they were actually on

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<v Speaker 2>the job for those five days.

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<v Speaker 3>And it turned out to be true.

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<v Speaker 2>They actually were able to measure workplace efficiency and it

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<v Speaker 2>increased with the day off, and so that just spread

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<v Speaker 2>like wildfire and pretty much Now, obviously that's a standard

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<v Speaker 2>way of going to work these days and has been

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<v Speaker 2>for the past one hundred years or so.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but they were able to measure back then, you

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<v Speaker 1>were saying that it was effective.

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<v Speaker 2>Within his own company, he said, he was able to

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<v Speaker 2>say this act, this worked, the workers are more efficient,

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<v Speaker 2>make better use of their time, and they didn't. The

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<v Speaker 2>point being is you decree the workday, but you keep

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<v Speaker 2>the pay the same. So pay, yes, pay remains the

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<v Speaker 2>same because you're still getting the same output. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>in a fewer amount of time or a fewer amount

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<v Speaker 2>of days.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, his logic there or I think you read something

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<v Speaker 1>in particular there. But the logic there was something about

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<v Speaker 1>their personal lives. How did you say that?

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<v Speaker 2>Again, it was if you give employees the time to

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<v Speaker 2>take care of their personal lives and deal with personal matters,

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<v Speaker 2>they aren't trying to do it on the job.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, if you have to work six days a week,

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<v Speaker 3>you only get one day off.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure enough, when you're on the job, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be handling things that are personal probably, or you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be distracted because you're going to be stressed because

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<v Speaker 2>you weren't able to take one day. Wasn't enough for

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<v Speaker 2>people to take care of their own business.

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<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't just how much of this was about

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<v Speaker 1>actually giving somebody. I guess it all ties in just rest. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you need a second to recover. Correct, it also keeps

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<v Speaker 1>Yes you have. Physical health improves when you have more

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<v Speaker 1>time to rest. Mental health improves when you have more

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<v Speaker 1>time to rest. So when you have better rested, more

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<v Speaker 1>physically and mentally fit employees, they're just going to perform better.

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<v Speaker 3>Period.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I weren't Sundays back in the day stressful because that

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<v Speaker 1>was church day, right, that big church day, big family

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not sitting around the house being lazy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like you get to I think about that now.

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<v Speaker 1>Think of all the things we do on the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>and we still don't think we have enough time to

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<v Speaker 1>get this done. I got to run an errand I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do the laundry, I got to clean the house

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<v Speaker 1>and the kids again. The next thing you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday and you haven't even rested. So to think one

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<v Speaker 1>day off a week, obviously we know what that's like.

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<v Speaker 1>We're used to working seven days a week. But roads

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<v Speaker 1>to think of the whole country right now, as tightly

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<v Speaker 1>wound as we are, we only got one day off

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<v Speaker 1>a week together on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>That's tough and it's not sustainable. And so yes, we

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<v Speaker 2>have been in a five day work week mentality. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I think as broadcasters, as journalists, there are some jobs

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<v Speaker 2>where that's not even possible. I think that's laughable. We

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<v Speaker 2>were pretty much on call twenty four to seven. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of doctors, a lot of other emergency workers, folks

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<v Speaker 2>who are working multiple jobs. They're like, please, a five

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<v Speaker 2>day work week, a forty hour work week sounds amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Many of us know what an eighty ninety hour work

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<v Speaker 2>week looks like and have done that for a very

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<v Speaker 2>long time.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's just what you got to do.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta hustle, right, So I say this with the

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledgment that a lot of folks would kill for a

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<v Speaker 2>five day work week. But now there is a steady

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<v Speaker 2>shift and a large drumbeat.

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<v Speaker 3>It is getting louder and louder around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop to make this now the norm a four day

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<v Speaker 2>work week, and you could say anywhere from thirty two

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<v Speaker 2>to thirty five hours a week. Some have even said

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight hours a week. However you want to place it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you give people three days off to relax, to reset,

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<v Speaker 2>to take care of business, to be a better hit

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<v Speaker 2>human and therefore a better worker.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So all these the movement that is going on

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<v Speaker 1>now you described, does it also include people being paid

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<v Speaker 1>the same now? Yes, for four days of work? So

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<v Speaker 1>the work you used to do to get paid for

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<v Speaker 1>this for six days and then five and now four?

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<v Speaker 3>Correct that full time?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, same pay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and that is Look, there are some other.

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<v Speaker 2>Other ways of potentially doing this people have talked about, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>a reduction and pay. But for the most part, when

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<v Speaker 2>people describe wanting to officially adopt a four day work week,

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<v Speaker 2>it is not at the cost of benefits or salary.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And is it the same theory is that you

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<v Speaker 1>give them an extra day. Henry four gave them two

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<v Speaker 1>days off, same theory, and you can even they're suggesting

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<v Speaker 1>you can even get more out of people if you

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<v Speaker 1>have them working less. Yes, that correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they say all boats rise because the company has

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<v Speaker 2>more efficient, more effective, sharper, friendlier, just warmer, nicer employees,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the employees get to feel healthier physically, mentally, rested,

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<v Speaker 2>being able to have that time with the family.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that is a huge part of the theory.

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<v Speaker 2>That at least going from six days to five days

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<v Speaker 2>feels like was successfully proven. Could you do the same

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<v Speaker 2>with a four day work week? A lot of countries

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to see if it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Possible just just thirty two hours a week versus forty

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<v Speaker 1>hours a week. That is a lot of time to

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<v Speaker 1>have an employee not being productive on behalf of your company.

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<v Speaker 2>What if you afour went breaks or condensed your lunch

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<v Speaker 2>to thirty minutes, You could make up the time in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of other ways, or you add an extra

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<v Speaker 2>hour onto your day so you can offset.

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<v Speaker 3>There are ways to negotiate.

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<v Speaker 2>Like some of that that you can there's some wiggle room,

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<v Speaker 2>but it really is sometimes it's not just about maybe

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<v Speaker 2>going down to thirty two hours. Sometimes they said it

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<v Speaker 2>at thirty eight or thirty seven, but just condense or

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<v Speaker 2>maximize the hours, or add an hour so you can

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<v Speaker 2>you can find a way to really set aside three

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<v Speaker 2>full days of being off.

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<v Speaker 1>There is nothing better as you're coming up in your

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<v Speaker 1>career as a three day weekend. You get them randomly

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<v Speaker 1>here and there. For some holidays, a three day weekend

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<v Speaker 1>is a dream difference.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, don't you feel so different?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, after a three day weekend, it's like a marked difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but I get concerned, and you'd please tell me

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<v Speaker 1>you've researched this more than I have. Are there concerns

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<v Speaker 1>about what type of worker, what type of economic environment

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<v Speaker 1>we are creating if we are suggesting I know some

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<v Speaker 1>would say it's a good thing, but I'm asking if

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<v Speaker 1>there is any pushback, essentially saying we are creating just

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<v Speaker 1>a lazier culture or a culture of folks who don't

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<v Speaker 1>don't anticipate having to work so hard or having an

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<v Speaker 1>expectation of what they're older.

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't come here to work. Is there any ease?

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<v Speaker 2>Now? I haven't heard anything like that, because really, I

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<v Speaker 2>think the larger mental health or the larger issue that

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<v Speaker 2>people talk about often is that we work too hard.

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<v Speaker 2>We work ourselves to death. We don't enjoy our lives,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't put we don't prioritize our health and

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<v Speaker 2>our enjoyment of life. And because we don't, we're miserable people,

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<v Speaker 2>and that doesn't make for good employees. So no, I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen anything. I've only I actually have not seen.

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<v Speaker 2>The concern is is there really going to be at

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<v Speaker 2>least a steady output or an increased output. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>concern I think companies have, right, how can I manage this?

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<v Speaker 2>And look, No, a country has officially adopted a four

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<v Speaker 2>day work week schedule nationwide, but a lot of countries

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<v Speaker 2>have pilot programs out or they're doing a government employee

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<v Speaker 2>pilot program. Some places are pushing legislation, and there are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of individual companies, private companies. There is growing

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<v Speaker 2>support that this world and they are starting to adopt it.

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<v Speaker 1>The I'll ask do they have results yet? I know

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<v Speaker 1>you said pilot programs. Does anybody have any hard data

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<v Speaker 1>yet on.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen any hard data on it yet.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is really really exciting when you start looking

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<v Speaker 2>at what and who was doing this. So in Belgium,

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<v Speaker 2>employees right now can request a four day week without

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<v Speaker 2>the loss of salary as long as they condense their hours.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think you make up the hours in the days,

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<v Speaker 2>but they allow you can request it, and they can

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<v Speaker 2>make accommodation for you to have a four day work week.

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<v Speaker 1>That's essentially just you not being in the office on

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<v Speaker 1>one day extra day.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not about an officer out of office.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about just maybe adding a couple hours to your

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<v Speaker 2>day to make up to offset for the loss of

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<v Speaker 2>the fifth day.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That fifth day is just about you not being engaged

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<v Speaker 1>with your workplace. Correct, But you have those eight days

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<v Speaker 1>have now been added to the four that you are

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<v Speaker 1>eight hours excuse me, have been added to the four

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<v Speaker 1>days that you are working.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe, yeah, essentially add two hours extra to your day.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it didn't specify that, but that's basically saying

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<v Speaker 2>you would condense your hours so you would make up

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<v Speaker 2>for your time and just working longer days.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems doable and I think preferable. Wouldn't most people

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<v Speaker 1>say they want to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>In Iceland from two this is interesting, from twenty fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty nineteen, they did large scale trials on a

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<v Speaker 2>four day work week and they were deemed an overwhelming success,

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<v Speaker 2>which is now led the country of Iceland now has

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<v Speaker 2>widespread adoption of a four day work week, so that country,

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<v Speaker 2>that nation largely has four day work weeks because of

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<v Speaker 2>a four year trial that they conducted to see if

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<v Speaker 2>there was any loss in output revenue, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>What constituted, ay, would you say, a wild success or whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>They called it an overwhelming success, just meaning that there

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<v Speaker 2>was no significant loss. There was nothing that was lost

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of outputction revenue by doing it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>The United Arab Emirates in twenty twenty two introduced a

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<v Speaker 2>four and a half day federal work week, So if

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<v Speaker 2>you work for the federal government, you work four and

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<v Speaker 2>a half days. Basically you have a half day on Friday.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, now they should make that law.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's just nice, awesome, that's just kind nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that in Lithuania they have a thirty This

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<v Speaker 2>is really interesting. They have implemented a four day work week,

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<v Speaker 2>so thirty two hours. They actually give the hours for

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<v Speaker 2>parents with children under three. I think that's pretty cool,

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<v Speaker 2>but could also cause some annoyance within the work place

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<v Speaker 2>any parent. It says for parents and children under three

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<v Speaker 2>man or a woman yep in Lithuania.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's somebody would immediately sue for discrimination in the US.

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<v Speaker 3>That would never work here in the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty two, they ran one of the world's

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<v Speaker 2>largest trials with sixty businesses and they said it was successful.

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<v Speaker 3>So they have started to go.

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<v Speaker 2>If you go over to the UK, you'll see a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of folks and if you just even google four

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<v Speaker 2>day work weeks, you'll see some of the countries that

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of companies who live by those rules,

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<v Speaker 2>and the UK is one of those. Portugal also had

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<v Speaker 2>a government backed pilot with forty one companies that was successful.

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<v Speaker 2>Japan is encouraging now as a nation for all companies

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<v Speaker 2>to adopt a four day work week to improve work

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<v Speaker 2>life balance.

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<v Speaker 3>So Tokyo, the City of Tokyo.

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<v Speaker 2>All of their one hundred and sixty thousand government employees

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<v Speaker 2>have a four day work week that began in April

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<v Speaker 2>of last year, and some other municipalities have like Osaka,

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<v Speaker 2>have done the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Australia, Sweden, Germany, Brazil, South Africa all of them doing

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<v Speaker 2>something similar. So when we come back, what the heck

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<v Speaker 2>is the United States doing and there is a very

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<v Speaker 2>big force behind this trend of the four day work week.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you believe that chat GPT is involved?

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<v Speaker 1>True.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ,

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<v Speaker 2>where we are talking about on this anniversary, on this

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<v Speaker 2>one hundredth anniversary of the five day work week, we

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<v Speaker 2>are now talking seriously about countries, including the United States

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<v Speaker 2>of America, getting closer, it seems, day by day to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe one day implementing unofficial four day work week.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that sound good to you?

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of like it. I'd like to see some

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<v Speaker 1>numbers on productivity and whatnot. And I do have a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of concerns here or there, but generally speaking, I

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<v Speaker 1>certainly the one you mentioned a second ago, the is

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<v Speaker 1>it Tokyo the government work with Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a half day on every United Arab Emirates. Okay, everyday.

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<v Speaker 4>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>So Look and here in the United States you may

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<v Speaker 2>have heard of a Senator Bernie Sanders. He's been pushing

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<v Speaker 2>legislation to make the standard work week to thirty two

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<v Speaker 2>hours with no pay reduction. Look, there is so there

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<v Speaker 2>is a push. Private companies are also, some of them

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<v Speaker 2>doing it on their own, but this is interesting. In

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two, fourteen percent of employers in the United

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<v Speaker 2>States offered a form of a four day work week.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty four, it's at twenty two percent, So the

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<v Speaker 2>trend is going up. More and more companies are now

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<v Speaker 2>starting to pilot these programs see if it works for them.

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<v Speaker 2>But we are starting to see American companies starting to

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<v Speaker 2>come around to this idea.

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<v Speaker 3>We are last.

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<v Speaker 2>I think other countries are much further ahead than we are,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is interesting that we are catching on.

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<v Speaker 3>Americans are known to be workaholics.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we're known as a superpower, and we're no

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<v Speaker 1>to be the place that everybody wants to come for opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're known as the economic engine for the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>How much of that has to do with that work ethic,

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<v Speaker 1>with that five days a week, with us being having

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<v Speaker 1>that mindset. I mean, you can close your eyes when

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<v Speaker 1>you say American worker. You can see that somebody with

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<v Speaker 1>a hard hat on sitting on a steel beam, driving

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<v Speaker 1>a tractor, driving a truck. Yeah, it's what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's some balance in there. I like, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>best compromise. The UAE thing you said up I give

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<v Speaker 1>everybody a half day on Friday. That's kind of awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I would sign on to that today, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder then about the direction we end up going.

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<v Speaker 1>Who before somebody starts asking for a three day work day,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted the direction we're going to where every kid

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<v Speaker 1>that goes in for an interview at some company has

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<v Speaker 1>an expectation of what they deserve or no, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to work that hard.

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<v Speaker 2>They're already seeing that now COVID everyone learning how to

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<v Speaker 2>zoom or work from home. You have a whole generation

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<v Speaker 2>of younger adults who are annoyed that now they're having

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<v Speaker 2>to start to come into the office. So, yes, a

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<v Speaker 2>very different mindset can emerge from some of these trends

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<v Speaker 2>that seem.

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<v Speaker 3>To be positive. They can bite you back in the butt.

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<v Speaker 1>But they some would say that's direction we should go roes. Okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>we should be in the office lest we shouldn't. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you do need to respect that I only want to

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<v Speaker 1>be in here four days a week, even though I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just twenty two years old and fresh out of college. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I have demands.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's the way it should go, but it's just

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<v Speaker 1>not what we are from and what we're used to,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I do wonder about us. I guess, going

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<v Speaker 1>back that direction, which you and I have seen plenty,

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<v Speaker 1>we spend time on college campuses. We talked to some

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<v Speaker 1>college professors about what they see, just this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>I am entitled to so much before I prove myself

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<v Speaker 1>by even working five days a week.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, for those of us who work seven days

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<v Speaker 2>a week and who have for most of our careers,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a bit of an eye roll. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 2>but we're probably the crazy ones, and they're the ones

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<v Speaker 2>who are smart because they are prioritizing a work life balance.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was actually thinking about Japan. The country of Japan.

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<v Speaker 2>As regimented as they are, they're rule followers. Generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>there's incredible organization and precision that that country is known for.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet I love that they're leading the way in

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<v Speaker 2>this work life balance and they are trying to push

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<v Speaker 2>this on companies and or I guess encourage all the

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<v Speaker 2>companies who do business there in Japan to adopt this

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<v Speaker 2>four day a week lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 3>The other big influence.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now is ai ai Chat GBT maker open Ai

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<v Speaker 2>has a huge arm that is trying to influence employers

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<v Speaker 2>as they try to get some of these businesses obviously

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<v Speaker 2>to incorporate their technology. They're also saying, hey, you should

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<v Speaker 2>consider trialing a four day work week as AI use

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<v Speaker 2>and demand grows in the workplace, and that way you

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<v Speaker 2>can offset some of this balance with what computers are

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<v Speaker 2>not going to do and replacing human.

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<v Speaker 3>Brain power with computer technology.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an opportunity to maybe try and work out different

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<v Speaker 2>schedules with your own employees.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's a little scary.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel like, wow, they're really just trying to push

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<v Speaker 2>everybody out of the office so they can take over.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm making sure I was hearing you correctly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, thank you, Yes, all right, it's scary.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard it as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, yeah, you have a four day work week. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be great.

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<v Speaker 3>For your imployer's got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we got you covered.

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<v Speaker 3>Chat GPT has it?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that sounded like an advertisement to me.

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<v Speaker 2>That made it seem like if I heard anything coming

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<v Speaker 2>from open AI from chat GPT, I'd be thinking, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, whatever you're telling me to do, I'm doing

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite, because clearly you're trying to take my job.

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<v Speaker 2>Like now, you don't have to worry about the young crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>the young kid coming up from college taking your job.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the computer that's telling you, hey, you should have

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<v Speaker 2>a day work week. Yeah, that's concern I mean completely concerning.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, they say that this is to help society

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<v Speaker 2>adjust to the AI era.

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<v Speaker 1>Wowoo, get used to not being in the office so much,

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<v Speaker 1>is what they're telling us.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't talk a lot about our seven day

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<v Speaker 2>work week right now after hearing about what a I

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<v Speaker 2>would like us to do.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to work eight days, were gonna work twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five eight?

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<v Speaker 4>Like Mary Jay say, oh my god, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well here's too hoping that all of you have found,

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<v Speaker 2>at least in your own personal life some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>work life balance. But yeah, I think it is important

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<v Speaker 2>to recognize that. You know, when you're on your deathbed,

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<v Speaker 2>I always remember this. The last thing you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>say is I wish I had worked harder. I wish

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't taken so many vacation days. No, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to see either one of those things. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>good to have a conversation like this, to always try

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<v Speaker 2>and keep our lives in perspective and With that, everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for listening to us. As always, I made

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<v Speaker 2>me Robaka inside t J.

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<v Speaker 3>Holmes. We will talk to you soon.