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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio. I wonder if

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Speaker 1: you can get this right, my man. From first of all,

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Speaker 1: dank thing. So how you been, my man?

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Speaker 2: I'm good like so let me just people hitting me like,

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Speaker 2: oh but did you get fired and all that.

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Speaker 3: Listen, listen.

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Speaker 2: So June for me is everything everything, So in a

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Speaker 2: ten day period, it's my birthday, my anniversary, my son's birthday.

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Speaker 3: And my wife's birthday.

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Speaker 2: All in June, and so it's it's one of those

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Speaker 2: things where number one, it's a very expensive month. Number two,

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Speaker 2: I try to dedicate that time to them because I

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Speaker 2: work year round NonStop.

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Speaker 3: So as you should, I try to, you know, do things.

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Speaker 2: And most of the time it's okay, But occasionally those

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no you don't need to explain yourself for

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Speaker 1: any of these, but maybe I can make you feel

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Speaker 1: better with regard to the expense that you reference there

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Speaker 1: here in the month of June.

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Speaker 4: Even though now it's the month of July.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I would like to congratulate you on having that

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Speaker 1: very expensive month be halfway to the holiday season, because

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Speaker 1: I have the exact same month that you have here

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Speaker 1: in June. I have it in January and February. Wow, okay,

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Speaker 1: no joke, no joke. From like January sixth to about

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Speaker 1: February fifth is my birthday. Actually, if we extend it

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Speaker 1: even further, in February, it's my birthday, it's both of

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Speaker 1: my son's birthdays, it's my daughter's birthirthday, it's my girl's birthday,

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Speaker 1: and it's my girl's girl's birthday, all in about forty days. Whoa,

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Speaker 1: and it comes right after the holidays when your boys

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Speaker 1: got nothing left.

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Speaker 4: I got no more.

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Speaker 1: I got no more room to be wrapping anything done

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Speaker 1: in January and February. So good job on you to

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, you know, it's that's just well thought out.

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Speaker 1: Anyway. Could have talked to you, my man to talk

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know. It was kind of.

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Speaker 2: And I was a short notice when Scott got mad

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, you got mad at me. I was like,

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Speaker 2: you know, Scott be going on vacation. None of us vacation,

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Speaker 2: but Scott be going and no, I shout out to Scott.

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Speaker 2: He's great. Uh that's the best. Yeah he is, he

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Speaker 2: really is. And I was like, oh my gosh, I

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Speaker 3: And I was like, oh oh oh, and that thing

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Speaker 2: There is not a three hour chunk that I could

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Speaker 3: Just pop back up right right. So I hit him.

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Speaker 2: Mom was like, look, man, I know this is late,

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Speaker 2: but I please. I was like, I'll call someone. You

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Speaker 2: don't he's on vacay. I'm like, you don't have to

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Speaker 2: He was like, no, I got it. Just give me

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Speaker 4: Up, little heads up next time.

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Speaker 1: And then and then you followed that up by admitting

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Speaker 2: I forgot it was on I had already been planning.

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Speaker 2: I forgot it was on the Sunday. Oh see, like

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Speaker 1: Dad.

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Speaker 3: I didn't forget the birthday.

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Speaker 1: No, Now you just admitted something else. Now, you know,

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Speaker 1: That's when you know. That's what I believe me. I

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Speaker 1: got you, I feel you. But my parents they've done

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Speaker 3: Well, I will say, I don't know you schedule.

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Speaker 1: Is that, That's what it is. What's today?

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Speaker 1: That's that's what today is. Really good. Well, and again,

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Speaker 1: welcome back, glad to wrap with you for an evening.

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Speaker 1: And I got a real thing that I need to

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Speaker 4: That makes it sound like I'm all frustrated and annoyed.

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Speaker 1: I just think something has expired here and I need

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Speaker 1: to talk it out with you. This is kind of

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Speaker 1: like why a rocket scientist is not real popular at

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Speaker 1: I don't understand what you're saying. That's not a rip

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. And in this analogy, the rocket scientist

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Speaker 4: Oh, I've had it. What are you doing?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 6: Seven team trade and this team has this bird right,

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Speaker 6: and that team has this exception and the money does match,

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Speaker 6: but it doesn't have to match in.

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Speaker 1: This particular case. And you could take fifty cents on

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Speaker 1: the dollar in that trade. But in that trade over there,

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Speaker 1: this team's taking money back. What are you all doing?

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Speaker 1: You've just confused us and all of our aprons. I'm

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Speaker 1: this team gave up those players, and that team gave

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Speaker 1: up the these players. But in the NBA, it's like no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: But you know what they got. They got a trade exception. Okay,

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Speaker 1: explain that to me. Well, see now here. What we

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: They went and gave everything to their CBA and this

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Speaker 4: This deal came together. I don't know, man, I'm out.

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Speaker 1: The NBA and its off season is starting to feel

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Speaker 1: like reading a really really long book. It has no

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Speaker 3: Oh that's the worst, you know. Well, for me, I

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Speaker 2: I have a super producer, uh and his name is

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Speaker 2: Ian and I'm going to bring him in and he's

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Speaker 2: going to explain it to me like I'm six.

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Speaker 7: Okay, well my six year old hosts here. Let's see,

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Speaker 7: Phoenix will be receiving Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks, come on, Maluak,

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Speaker 7: Kobe Brea, Rasher Fleming, d Kwon Plowden, and a second

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Speaker 1: I knew who two of those players were. Stood the

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Speaker 7: And that's just one team. So yeah, Houston receives Kevin

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Speaker 7: Durant and Clint Capella. So a lot of those guys.

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Speaker 3: Uh that that's six players for two right so far and.

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Speaker 8: A pick Lakers receive.

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Speaker 7: I apologize to the player, I'm pronouncing his name wrong,

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Speaker 7: but it's I do. Thiero Tierro Atlanta receives David Roddy

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Speaker 7: good last name, second round swap and cash. Minnesota receives

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Speaker 7: Rocko Zakarski two second round picks, Yeah, mad and generated

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Speaker 7: And that is the total details of the trader.

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Speaker 2: Now do you know why other people had to be

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Speaker 3: No, I couldn't tell you.

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Speaker 8: I'll tell you all that, Okay, just that they were.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take a shot at it. It's so

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Speaker 2: much money, right, It's so much money that people have

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Speaker 2: to clear, move, receive. Then you have to start throwing

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Speaker 2: a bunch of antillary stuff in. And now why the

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Speaker 2: need for five other teams to make that happen is

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Speaker 2: crazy to me. It's like, you know, playing in the

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Speaker 2: But it can be a bit daunting, especially when you're

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Speaker 2: almost like in baseball when you when they do a

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Speaker 2: or this left fielder. It gets convoluted when you don't

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Speaker 2: have the greatest thing. And it was very shocking. But

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Speaker 2: the greatest thing about the Laker Dallas Mavericks trade was

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Speaker 2: it was like, we're gonna give you Luca right for

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Speaker 2: like good and you're good.

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Speaker 3: I'm good good.

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Speaker 4: Picking or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Somebody got a pick maybe or I don't know, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I understood.

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Speaker 2: It, like that is trade for the layman, like like

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Speaker 2: that is like, oh, okay, I understand that this good

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Speaker 2: it with that player and this thing over here that

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Speaker 2: may or may not turn it into anything. Now when

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Speaker 2: you add five other teams to that negotiation money, because

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Speaker 2: there is like money involved, and then there's second round

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Speaker 3: You know to it's it's a lot, and you're right,

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Speaker 3: it's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Well, and then can I add something further to it,

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Speaker 1: Like let's take one of those names out of the

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Speaker 1: three hundred and fourteen that Ian just said to us,

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Speaker 1: one of them is Clint Capella. Now, I was told

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Speaker 4: That's what I was told. That's not what happened.

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Speaker 1: Now, Now, Clint Capella is a part of a trade

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Speaker 1: to the Houston Rockets. So and and yes, in the

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Speaker 1: most layman's terms, I can say, why are you adding

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Speaker 1: all of these other teams and players and assets in?

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Speaker 1: It is, quite frankly, so that owners don't have to

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Speaker 1: you and I have already talked about that people don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another way that they can alienate the fan

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Speaker 4: He from this probably doesn't land at your doorstep.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't do that if they wanted to, unless you

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Speaker 2: Understands, and that's I think that's the thing. Everybody thinks

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Speaker 3: You move, it's just I mean, it's it's a lot.

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Speaker 1: And if you're honest, we're to leave. It's not gonna

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Speaker 4: You know, the Knicks.

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Speaker 5: Oh ooh, I'd love to hear more about that, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I'd love to give you a little bit of that

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Speaker 3: Not you, I know, but this man, smooth jowls disagre.

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Speaker 8: That's who jowls. Actually. US men's soccer is playing Mexico

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Speaker 8: Fox TV. The Americans scored early. It's now one one.

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Speaker 8: They are in the sixty third minutes. Mexico answered with

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Speaker 8: five percent of the possession, is out shooting the young

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Speaker 8: American squad nine to four so far. Game has tied

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Speaker 8: one one in the second half. This is our regional

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Speaker 8: Champion Chip game in the WNBA. We already had wins

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Speaker 8: NASCAR Chicago Street Race went to Shane Van Gisberg and

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Speaker 8: Scott Dixon took the IndyCar Race at mid Ohio. At Wimbledon,

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Speaker 8: Live Golf was off. It'll be in Spain next weekend.

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Speaker 8: As for Major League Baseball, they did announce the All

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Speaker 8: Star reserves and pitchers. They include an injured pitcher from

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Speaker 8: come a week from Tuesday. We've got Cardinals at Cubs

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Speaker 8: this Sunday night, the A's hosting the Giants ten pm

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Speaker 8: in the summer, you might have an answer to that.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it is a.

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Speaker 1: Nightcad hoping that the players don't die. That's why.

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Speaker 8: So I'm sure it was in the nineties there again

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Speaker 8: today and no no day game there. And by the way,

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Speaker 8: three years, we assume move on to Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Much cooler there.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it'll be much cooler. It's a much better market

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Speaker 8: to go to. They have recently broken ground on a

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Speaker 2: Gotta be inside right, absolutely, yes, possibly, which is.

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Speaker 8: Of course increasing the cost of the whole thing. It's

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Speaker 8: only supposed to seat thirty three thousand fans and cost

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Speaker 8: one point seventy five billion dollars, but it is expected

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Speaker 8: to be finished in time for the twenty twenty eight season.

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Speaker 8: It's where the Tropicana used to be, across from MGM.

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Speaker 8: They've imploded the Tropicana, so literally it's on the strip.

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Speaker 8: You could walk from there across the street not only

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Speaker 8: to MGM, but the other way to the hockey Arena.

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Speaker 8: The ballpark is getting some assistance in construction, of course,

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Speaker 8: from the state of Nevada and the county. They've already

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Speaker 8: approved up to three hundred and eighty million in public

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Speaker 8: funds for that project. The interesting part to me is

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Speaker 8: air conditioning in the new place in Vegas is going

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Speaker 8: to be distributed through the seats instead of through a

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Speaker 8: centralized system. So let's see how that works. The Washington

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Speaker 8: Nationals are saying this is not working, so they fired

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Speaker 8: manager Dave Martinez and GM Mike Rizzo. The Nationals are

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Speaker 8: last in the NL East, thirty seven and fifty three.

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Speaker 8: In fact, the Nats lost at home six to four

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Speaker 8: to Boston. Houston beat the Dodgers in LA again five

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Speaker 8: to one. Wins for Kansas City Seattle, and Colorado defeated

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Speaker 8: the Chicago White Sox six to four. It still counts

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Speaker 8: as a win. The White Sox on the road are

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Speaker 8: eleven and thirty six. Colorado at home now ten and

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Speaker 8: thirty six.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, let's go. Hey, by the way, can

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Speaker 1: we circle back for a minute to where you started.

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Speaker 1: Ian and I were talking about this during a break

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Speaker 1: earlier this hour, and I'd love for you to re explain,

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Speaker 1: seeing as this is being played again during our show.

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Speaker 1: Soccer Yeah, re explain, yees, soccer re explain why America

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Speaker 1: being tied in the second half of a championship round

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Speaker 1: does not actually mean that the US men's national team

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Speaker 1: is good.

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Speaker 8: They're using not all their veteran players, Guys that were

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Speaker 8: good enough to be based in Europe play for clubs

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Speaker 8: over there, and people like the star the captain, Christian

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Speaker 8: Polisics said, you know what, I've had a long season.

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Speaker 8: I'm not going to play here this summer. Not all

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Speaker 8: fans took kindly to that, but he's got the summer off. Congratulations.

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Speaker 8: So some of the veterans are not on this US team,

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Speaker 8: which for a new coach is probably just fine. He

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Speaker 8: needs to find pieces for the roster for next summer

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Speaker 8: when the US does host the World Cup. The thing

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Speaker 8: that was scaring US fans is with the new coach.

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Speaker 8: They had lost four straight games this year, all at

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Speaker 8: home until this tournament run, and people are thinking, this

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Speaker 8: is great, we got to host the World Cup. This

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Speaker 8: is going to be an embarrassment. This might as well

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Speaker 8: be South Africa Katar hosting the World Cup next summer.

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Speaker 8: We're not going to get a single w We'll see.

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Speaker 8: The roster is yet to be set. What is notable

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Speaker 8: about tonight's game not just that it's the regional championship game,

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Speaker 8: and by the way, compared to the rest of the world.

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Speaker 8: This region is not that good. The championship game is

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Speaker 8: usually US against Mexico. But notable that US and Mexico

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Speaker 8: are co hosting the World Cup next year with Canada,

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Speaker 8: which means they get in automatically, which means tonight's game

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Speaker 8: is literally the last game of any actual meaning that

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Speaker 8: these two teams will play until next summer. It's just

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Speaker 8: exhibitions and setting your roster between now and next summer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So and he from last week while you were out,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about this and we sort of likened it.

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Speaker 1: It's not a perfect comp but the United States winning

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Speaker 1: the Gold Cup would be kind of like when the

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Speaker 1: Patriots used to win the AFC East.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that makes sense, Yeah that is perfect.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so that's what might happen tonight. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Ian was like, what's going on? I thought like, we

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Speaker 1: weren't any good and I'm like, this would be like

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Speaker 1: when the Patriots won the AFC East and he goes,

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Speaker 1: never mind, that's good, We're moving on.

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Speaker 8: I guess the bad news is there's no first round

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Speaker 8: by coming out of this.

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Speaker 1: That's too bad. That's too bad, except for there kind

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Speaker 1: of is because we get to automatically be in the World.

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Speaker 8: Cup well as hosts.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 8: And by the way, looking ahead the next summer, it's

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Speaker 8: it's all NFL stadiums, of course, with the size that

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Speaker 8: we're going to be using next summer, including the one

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Speaker 8: that's being used tonight Houston, Texas, which is great because

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Speaker 8: people have been complaining about the summer weather over here

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Speaker 8: and playing soccer outdoors at noon. This is an indoor

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Speaker 8: football stadium. Of course, they have to put a grass

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Speaker 8: field down on all of these NFL stadiums, whether it's

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Speaker 8: La Philadelphia wherever, and they're gonna have to put it

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Speaker 8: down way in advance, because that's another complaint. This summer

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Speaker 8: is safe, excellent. You guys have kind of rushed putting

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Speaker 8: the grass down and it's not really set, and we

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Speaker 8: don't like the field and we don't like the bounce

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Speaker 8: of the ball. Hopefully all of these things will get

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Speaker 8: set by next time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fantastic. So let's preview a discussion that we're now

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Speaker 1: all going to have next year.

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Speaker 4: Then, So once the NFL season is.

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Speaker 1: Completed and there are literally zero torn a cls right

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Speaker 1: that part and the whole year, then what are the

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Speaker 1: owners going to say, what are they going to say

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Speaker 1: when they're like, well, actually, there's zero evidence that having

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Speaker 1: them play on concrete is any worse. And I know

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Speaker 1: it's different now than the turf that you used to

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Speaker 1: play on, right, I bet you got some stories.

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Speaker 8: Unfortunately, the only concrete that's getting replaced is like at

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Speaker 8: the Ram Stadium in the corners of the lower bowl.

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Speaker 8: Since the soccer field is wiser, wider, they had to

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Speaker 8: replace the risers like you would have the bleachers in

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Speaker 8: your high school gym that can be rolled back. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: for a little more space for soccer is what they're

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Speaker 8: having to do. And at the Jets Giant Stadium, which

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Speaker 8: is going to be hosting the World Cup final, widen

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Speaker 8: the field accommodate soccer.

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Speaker 1: Well that Jets Giant stadiums like the worst one, isn't.

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Speaker 8: It as far as space.

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Speaker 4: That's torn acl field.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, well taller. All of these next summer will

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Speaker 8: have grass on top.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 8: FIFA World Cup is always on grass.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 1: This is sort of the opposite of what they did

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Speaker 1: in Brazil when they just like built stadiums in the

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Speaker 1: middle of nowhere for a billion dollars and they're like, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: this makes total financial sense.

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Speaker 8: There's an indoor place, of course for the Atlanta Falcons,

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Speaker 8: grass field, all of them, Foxborough next summer, This Houston Place, Philly, Seattle,

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Speaker 8: La Ram Stadium, they'll all have grass fields. I'm not

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Speaker 8: saying for the NFL season, but certainly for next summer.

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Speaker 8: Else you can't host the world.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know this got to put in early.

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like it a lot.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: And now you see why we love the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the hour so much.

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Speaker 3: Every hour we get wiser what you call him, smooth

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Speaker 3: on jowls.

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Speaker 8: Jowls, that's not incredible, all right, just like one of

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Speaker 8: those cartoon Bassett hounds.

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah that works. Uh, something tells me at

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Speaker 1: a later hour tonight, Steve, the three of us are

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Speaker 1: going to chat out the All Star Game rosters and

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Speaker 1: the people who are on him and the people who

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Speaker 1: are not on them. Pretty interesting one.

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Speaker 8: Soo is still getting paid. I'll just say that it

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Speaker 8: regardless of whether he was selected tonight, weird.

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Speaker 1: Weird Wanza, what do you make of that? He from

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Speaker 1: one Soto and Mookie bets Man. The players did not

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Speaker 1: put those two guys high enough on their ballots. Was

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Speaker 1: about the fans. It was the players.

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Speaker 2: I would have to probably say it was because I

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Speaker 2: know Mookie has missed substantial time.

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Speaker 4: He did miss some time. That's a good point.

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Speaker 8: A Western batting average moving to short stuff this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's I understand that, you know, he's battled

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Speaker 2: through some things. And the way I see it is,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it may bother him, but you know, repeating

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Speaker 2: as Woolseies champions, I think would eradicate any feeling of

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Speaker 2: not making the weekday All Star Game.

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Speaker 1: I hear you. And it's not like the two names,

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Speaker 1: Like I always do that when people scream about a

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Speaker 1: name and they're like, why didn't he make it? And

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, who did you know?

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Speaker 3: Right, that's exactly that says.

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Speaker 1: It's shortstop. Now the two names who did get in Francisco,

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Speaker 1: Lindor and Elie de la Cruz.

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Speaker 3: Pretty hard to say they don't deserve.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, and and pretty hard to say that that

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Speaker 1: not who fans want to see. Also, it's also like,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the other Dodgers didn't make it, so

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Speaker 1: like right, well, there you go, like Clayton, Clayton Kershaw.

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Speaker 1: I get that. What they call a legend commission. So

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Speaker 1: this is kind of like when Cal Ripken hit that

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Speaker 1: for Cocta home run years ago in his last year.

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Speaker 8: It would be like if the NBA commissioner could pick

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Speaker 8: Kareem in his last year, right, right.

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Speaker 1: So if there's already do you think Kershaw is going

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Speaker 1: to start?

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Speaker 3: They probably come in play inning and get on about

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Speaker 3: it there, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they may have him start. So the first

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Speaker 1: three batters for the American League have to agree to

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Speaker 1: like swing really early, yes and miss and just get

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Speaker 1: them on out of there. I got no problem with

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Speaker 1: it. It's an All Star game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nine pitch, three outs, Yeah, move on.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear why you think that Mike brown

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Speaker 1: Hire is such a bad one. I really want to

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Speaker 1: hear about that, so you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's uh, let's get into that. Coming up next, we're

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Speaker 1: All right, so the Knicks are about to hire Mike Brown.

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with that?

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Speaker 3: Do you think Mike Brown is a good coach?

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Speaker 4: Do I think Mike Brown's a good coach? I do

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Speaker 4: think he's a good coach.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he's a good head coach?

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, good job semantics? So in certain situations, yes,

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Speaker 1: not in all situations.

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Speaker 3: So Mike Brown lost me back in the Cleveland days.

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Speaker 2: Okay, when you know he was at a press conference

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Speaker 2: and they were asking him, you know what adjustments did

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Speaker 2: you make? And how did you come back and do this?

658
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: And YadA, YadA, YadA. His reply was a I just

659
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 2: got gave Lebron the ball and I just got out

660
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 2: of the way, and I said, what right?

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00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: Like even if that were the case as a heck,

662
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: would you say that?

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, not unless I was really really frustrated, like

664
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Speaker 1: and because right, we know what the.

665
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 4: Thought is, how true it is? Whatnot?

666
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: But the thought is when Lebron James is on the team,

667
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: he runs everything.

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00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: Right, like, so I'm like, oh, okay, so he's just

669
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: that in itself, was like, oh, what's happening here?

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00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you.

671
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: But then you know, when he came to the Lakers,

672
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: I got a chance to really you know, watching and.

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Speaker 3: Terrible.

674
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 2: She's not good, not very good. But what part adjustments?

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00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 3: Yeah? Up here.

676
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: My biggest thing for coaching is adjustments, right, because the

677
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: game is forever Some of the greatest coaches on the

678
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: planet in all sports make real life game time adjustments.

679
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: Bio Belichick is arguably the greatest football NFL football coach.

680
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: Because of that, you can play against the New England

681
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 2: Patriots and be dominating in the first half and come

682
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: out and you're playing against a whole nother scheme, a

683
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: whole nother team. Just it just I mean, it's unreal, right,

684
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: And so Greg Popovich is another Phil Jackson Like these

685
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: are you know, Steve Kerr the adjustments in the things

686
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: that you have to make.

687
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 3: In real time, so.

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00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: You know it.

689
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: For me, it's like, do I want to hand the

690
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: keys to someone who drives the car from the passenger

691
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 2: side with no driver?

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00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 4: I hear you.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing about it. I do when I say

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Speaker 1: situational because I feel exactly where you're coming and from

695
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: when it comes to the two more high profile situations

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Speaker 1: where we've gotten know Mike Brown through the years. Where

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00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: I did think he did his best job though, was

698
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: in Sacramento, and I thought it was clunky at least

699
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: unfair at worst with regard to how they moved on

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Speaker 1: from him. But that's what Sacramento does. Yes, what I

701
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: think Mike is really good at. I think Mike is

702
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: good on defense much more so than offense. And I

703
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: think Mike is pretty good with getting accountability to be

704
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: a part of the culture. Yeah.

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00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 2: Now I think defensively, yeah, when he's the head coach

706
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: that area of the team suffers when he's the head coach.

707
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 2: When he's the head coach, interesting and so outside of

708
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors, when he's the assistant coach, he

709
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 2: hasn't been that defensive star Wars. But we know why

710
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: Golden State is good defensively, and it's less Mike Brown

711
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 2: and more Draymond Green.

712
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Speaker 1: That's probably fair too, and their philosophy that's probably fair too.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, did you didn't you see a little

714
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: bit for a moment, right for a moment, the Sacramento

715
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: Kings had an actual squad, a team that that got

716
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Speaker 1: the three seed. I know that was a little circumstantial,

717
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: but got the three seed two years ago. And why

718
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: I get it. I know they lost, they lost in

719
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Speaker 1: seven games in the first round.

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Speaker 4: I understand all that.

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Speaker 2: But you got to make it and that, right, that's

722
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: when the magnifying glass is.

723
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 3: It's on you.

724
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: Right. But look at what he's taking over right now,

725
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Speaker 1: And I would argue that it's a little bit of

726
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: a hybrid. There's some pieces of what you're talking about

727
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: that I think are going to be a struggle. But

728
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: there's some pieces of what I'm talking about that I

729
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: think are going to be his cup of tea, and

730
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: maybe it suffers because he's the head coach and not

731
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: going to be an assistant. But that New York squad

732
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: needs to do some different things on defense. And I

733
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Speaker 1: would also argue that their stars need to care a

734
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: little bit more about all parts of the game and

735
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: and Mike, Mike will demand that. I don't know if

736
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: the guys will listen, but but he has had some

737
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Speaker 1: success with that in the past.

738
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, so you're gonna get Cat to play defense.

739
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: I mean again, it's not so much is Kat gonna

740
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: suddenly become a great defensive player. It's our Jalen Brunton

741
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: and Karl Anthony Towns going to become those kinds of

742
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: players where they start demanding the things that are necessary

743
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Speaker 1: of the people around them, like the aforementioned Draymond Green.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, It's an accountability issue for me.

745
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree, and it's I don't see

746
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: this going well and maybe I'm hopefully I'm wrong. And

747
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Speaker 2: I don't have any problem with Mike Brown personally. It's

748
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: just I just don't think he's a good head coach.

749
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you've got some evidence on your side,

750
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 4: there's no doubt.

751
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: All right, great stuff, Mark Willerty from salam Let's talk

752
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: about that Dolphin Steelers trade next, No Fox Sports. Hey,

753
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Speaker 1: I wanted to get into a little bit of NFL

754
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Speaker 1: with everybody, not only about what I just said we

755
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: were gonna get into, but Ephram I just saw something

756
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Speaker 1: else and something else.

757
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna.

758
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: Sit you on fire a little bit. Did you see

759
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: what Cam Newton recently said about Jayden Daniels.

760
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 4: Did you see this?

761
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 3: No?

762
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: What?

763
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Speaker 4: Okay?

764
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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 1: Good?

766
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 4: Just hold it right then. I'm gonna get to it

767
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 4: in a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports radio studios, circling

769
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: back to kind of where I started. Even though this

770
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: was a weird trade this week between the Dolphins and

771
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: the Steelers because it involved Darren Waller, and.

772
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Speaker 4: Everyone was like, well, you're not allowed to do that.

773
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 4: You can be trading people who don't even play.

774
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: But turns out yeah you can if they say they

775
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: are going to play, and so you have some names switching.

776
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: I understand that Darren Waller wasn't really technically a part

777
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: of the trade, but they're bringing him in.

778
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 4: That's why they prayed the trade.

779
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: John us Smith, Jalen Ramsey, Minka Fitzpatrick, the other ones

780
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: involved in the deal. But do you kind of seem

781
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: by looking at this NFL deal what I'm getting at

782
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: with the complications of the NBA, The Dolphins and the

783
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: Steelers made a trade and the teams were like, we're

784
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: going to give up this and you're going to give

785
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: up that, and that's it. No trade machine, no salaries,

786
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: no exceptions, no aprons, know none of that. I don't

787
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: know how the NBA undoes what it's already done, but

788
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: I really wish it would. I don't even quite frankly,

789
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand this is a soft cap league.

790
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: Why do the salaries have to match? Explain this to me.

791
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 3: So someone doesn't take advantage of someone else?

792
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 4: Well, let people take advantage of someone else. That's life.

793
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I mean within the competition committee and the

794
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: fairness and then it's just.

795
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: I mean, you like the Dodgers, Does this look fair

796
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: to you?

797
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: No, guys, you know they're exploiting that loophole right right, And.

798
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: They also have all kinds of resources that a lot

799
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: of the other teams don't have.

800
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: The Lakers.

801
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: You like the Lakers, You like the Dodgers. This isn't

802
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: about fairness. Why are we doing fairness?

803
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: But if I was the GM of a team and

804
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 2: we weren't having a great year, are a great couple

805
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: of years and you as close as we are, or

806
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: a GM of another team are owner of another team.

807
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 3: Let's say owners.

808
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: And you were a piece away and I had that

809
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: piece on my team and I traded that piece to you.

810
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Luca caliber, the piece for a second

811
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: round draft pick and compensation. The league would ebrupt. And

812
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: that's why things like this are put in place, because it's.

813
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: You get their friends.

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00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: These owners are friends, right, So if I if I

815
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: knew that, I could start operating like that, there's no.

816
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: I mean it's no. And then I'll give you the wink.

817
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: I'll get you on the next one, right Like, so

818
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: now you gotta the other owners are like, well, I

819
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: don't know Mark and I don't know em, so how

820
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: come I can't get that. The biggest complaint about the

821
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: Luca A d deal was well, you didn't let us

822
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: know Luca was available available. That was the biggest complaint,

823
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: Like you didn't know, You didn't let us know he

824
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: was available, because we would have done this and that

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00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: wasn't one of you got to remember, uh, Rob, Polinka

826
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: and Nico are close, sure, extremely close. So who But

827
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: when you're doing it on an ownership level, there's some

828
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: owners much wealthier than others, and so you can blur

829
00:44:54,520 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: that line like no one's business which doing. Yeah, but

830
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: if there weren't things in place, imagine what we'd be

831
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 2: looking at.

832
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: But in the NFL, we've already had a case go

833
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: in front of arbitration just recently with regard to collusion.

834
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: In there, there are text messages between owners ad owners

835
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: sitting there talking to each other about, well, it was

836
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: a good thing that we kept this dollar down and

837
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 1: we're not gonna let Cleveland mess this up. For everybody,

838
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: this is all in there, and when they come out,

839
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: they came out and they said, you had no collusion,

840
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: There's no problem here. I get mad at that you

841
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: want to give me a like I give you a

842
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: really like, bare bones, dumb down, silly example of what

843
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. If i'm because I know you play,

844
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: and we're getting close to time where people are gonna

845
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,479
Speaker 1: get together for fantasy football drafts and everything. If your

846
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: league does this stupid thing where if there's a trade,

847
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: then everybody else in the league's got to approve it.

848
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: Stop that.

849
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's yeah, that's I.

850
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: Don't care if Team eight and Team nine like the

851
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: trade that I just made with Team twelve. I don't care.

852
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 4: If you like it, you don't get a vote. You're

853
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 4: not involved, Like, why do we do this?

854
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: I think, and I anviolate the commissioner as the only vote.

855
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 4: I don't even think the commissioner should get a vote.

856
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 3: Adult I agree.

857
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: If one person wants to do something and someone else wants.

858
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 3: To do it to you, I'll say this and like.

859
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: Check with everybody to make sure that anything we do

860
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: is okay.

861
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: And some of the leagues, they're family members, like my

862
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: wife and I were in the same league together. Well,

863
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: and if no, no, no, this is a real thing, okay.

864
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: If it's not, no, no, no no. What Look if

865
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 2: you open if you open Pandora's box, you can't say

866
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: what comes out.

867
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm fine with it.

868
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: So what I what I'm saying is my wife and

869
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: I and I was in position to have the number

870
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: one seed and she wasn't even gonna make the playoffs

871
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: and she had, like you know, a stud quarterback that

872
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: would have clearly put me over.

873
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 3: The top, right, And the commissioner was like, yeah, no,

874
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: we're not doing that. Right.

875
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: So if you don't have well any rules in place,

876
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: that means one person two people are essentially drafting for

877
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: one team.

878
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: Okay, But the example stash that.

879
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: Guy there, said, stash that there, and then when whoever

880
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: has the better record, will offload and dump and give

881
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: them a chance to win.

882
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: But the example you just gave me is that your

883
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: wife is sitting there in December going like, my team's

884
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. I don't care if you go win

885
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: the league, and I'll plan our next vacation.

886
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 4: Okay.

887
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 1: That that would never hop it in the real world

888
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: because in theory, the team that's out of it is

889
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: still incentivized to run their business correctly. Maybe they'll take

890
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: future assets in exchange for a now asset, but that

891
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: kind of a deal is as old as dirt that

892
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: that already happens all the time, do you know what

893
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean?

894
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, but there's gotta be some type of transparency there,

895
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: and that's what the rules are for.

896
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: I just I don't like, I get what you're saying,

897
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: but I'm much more wild wild West about this. You

898
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: and I were on the air three weeks ago when

899
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: the Raffie Devers trade happened. Yes, now I don't know.

900
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: Now Devers has actually struggled a little bit. He's kind

901
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: of dinged up whatever. But the bottom line is, there

902
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,959
Speaker 1: wasn't one human being on planet Earth that I heard

903
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: after that deal. Go man, Red Sox got a nice return.

904
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: No one said happened nobody, But did Major League Baseball

905
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: step in and go hold on second? Looks a little unfair?

906
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: Giants got a really good player, Red Sox got a

907
00:48:55,239 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: mediocre player in three pups. Not fair? No adults wanted

908
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: to make a trade, So adults made a trade.

909
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 3: You know.

910
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 4: Nobody else gets to weigh in on this.

911
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: Why, to be fair, it is baseball? Well, I mean,

912
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 3: let's I mean, okay, and you like baseball. I have

913
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 3: an affinity for you know, but he does the same

914
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 3: thing football.

915
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: One of the reasons that the football thing that that

916
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: happened this week is interesting is because it's actually a

917
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: player for player trade, right, and we don't usually get that.

918
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: Usually some stud changes teams solely for the right to

919
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: maybe throw a flyer on somebody else next year. There's

920
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: never been. Like you want to talk about unfair deals.

921
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: Football teams are giving up stars in exchange for here

922
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: you can have number sixteen next year. On the we

923
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: have no idea board and and people didn't even blink

924
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: at it. They're just like, okay, and we don't have

925
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: any problem with that whatsoever. But in the NBA, we

926
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: got to get a quarter of the league to call

927
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: each other start grabbing players from Europe and sending cash places.

928
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: Also that it looks like it's even yep. I mean,

929
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: let me ask you, that trade look even to you.

930
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: I saw one team got Kevin Durant, six other teams got.

931
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: I have no clue what.

932
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 4: Why does it need to be fair?

933
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: The money is even sort of I'm hiding for somebody.

934
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 2: You need five other teams?

935
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, the money only needs to be even kind of

936
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: like one time the pie however you want.

937
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the thing you have to realize with ownership

938
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: like that, like everybody's trying to get rid of something,

939
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: and every trying everybody's trying to obtain something. So if

940
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 2: you you can make a sweet deal, if you have

941
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 2: something that you're trying to get rid of and and

942
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 2: that others want, and you know, that's going to help

943
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: you in the long run. That's what all of the

944
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: rigamarole is about. That's what I'm saying, though I'm dumping

945
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: like you're picking up.

946
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: Why couldn't Why couldn't Phoenix in Houston just trade jaythen

947
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: Green for Kevin Durant?

948
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 3: The money doesn't work?

949
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: So what so what Phoenix is rebooting and rebuilding? They

950
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: want the young asset Houston wants to.

951
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 3: Now asset awful trade good lord, as.

952
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: If the one they did isn't awful, it's awful already.

953
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: They got Jalen Green, and what we've been read the

954
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: particulars of this trade eighteen times, we still couldn't name

955
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: what else Phoenix got. So still so nobody thinks, oh,

956
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: Phoenix got a good return for Kevin. Nobody thinks that

957
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: because no one expects anything out of Phoenix, right, So

958
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: just let adults trade what they want to trade, Like,

959
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do for dinner after the show,

960
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: do it. I don't have opinion, it doesn't matter. You're

961
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: an adult. You wanna take yourself, go go get yourself

962
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: a big burger with two thousand calories. Do it? Yeah, right,

963
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: smash burger, go get one.

964
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 4: I don't know.

965
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: Listen, I know there's so many complexities that make what

966
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying completely inoperable. But I don't understand why we

967
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: had to go down this route. No other sport does

968
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: it at all. I mean, what did the Giants take

969
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: on for Raffie Devers almost three hundred million dollars? What

970
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: they send out like twelve twelve or whatever. Nobody's got

971
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: anything to say about it. But in the NBA, we

972
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: all got to go to the internet start matching up

973
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 1: eight assets from I mean, it just I just think

974
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: they've they've blown by their audience. You know this, You

975
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: write scripts. You don't want to write a script that

976
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: people don't understand. That is not what you want, do

977
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: you know? I mean, what was that? Uh? What was

978
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: that movie about? All the Dreams? And you know what

979
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean, if stuff's happening in an alternate universe and

980
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: then you.

981
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 3: Follow out a half later that you're like, what was it?

982
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 3: Cloud Atlas? What's that Cloud Atlas?

983
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't I mean.

984
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 3: With Holly Berry and Tom Hanks.

985
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, I don't know what just happened.

986
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: But if but and then you know, the critics, Oh,

987
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: abstractly wonder. No, I don't know what happened. I don't understand.

988
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: Oh man, I just want to understand. I just want

989
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: to know. Man, Just tell me what happened and then

990
00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: I can know. Supposed right, try to be all up

991
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: over my head. That's what the NBA's come. I'm glad

992
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: we got to this. This is an abstract movie by

993
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 1: Oliver Stone. It's like, I just tell me what happened.

994
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: Give me Dolphins and Steelers Jalen Ramsey and john Us

995
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: Smith for Minka Fitzpatrick Boom package, tight wrap tape good,

996
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: got it good? All right? I actually love to know

997
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: what you think about that deal too, which we can

998
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: do here in just a moment. Coming up next with

999
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1009
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: So what did you think, By the way, the Steelers

1010
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: have been one of the more sort of interesting or

1011
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: some might say head scratching teams this offseason. They've now

1012
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: got Jalen Ramsey and John Newsmith. They already had Pat Fryarmouth.

1013
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: They give up Mika Fitzpatrick, a really good pro. Hmm.

1014
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: What'd you think?

1015
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: You know?

1016
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 2: When I saw the trade, I was like, uh, okay,

1017
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: I mean it's I didn't see them getting better. They

1018
00:55:52,200 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: got another piece for Aaron Rodgers. They swapped out one

1019
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: o dB for another. Yeah, and so you know what

1020
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: Jayla rams at with about two more years as a

1021
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: corner and then goes to safety probably. But I mean,

1022
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: if you're worried about Cincinnati and being able to match

1023
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 2: up with them defensively, okay, but Cincinnati didn't make the playoffs,

1024
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 2: you know, and so you should be worried about the Ravens.

1025
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:40,959
Speaker 2: I mean, you know it's and you know they still

1026
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: have issues in terms of.

1027
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 3: TJ. Watt.

1028
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what's gonna happen there? And look, they may

1029
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: know something we don't know, of course they may be

1030
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: talking and close to a deal and right before camp

1031
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 2: it happens in YadA, YadA YadA. But to me, if

1032
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: they think Aaron Rodgers gets them a playoff win, then

1033
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 2: you know, what do you need to do to get

1034
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: yourself too playoff wins? Because they're not going to be

1035
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: the favorite to win the division. I mean they were.

1036
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: They were on fire well last year and then until

1037
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: they weren't quirky fire, yeah, like they were. They were

1038
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 2: leading the division well into the second half of the year.

1039
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: Like non sustainable fire. Yes, and you knew it walloween.

1040
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: You knew it was going to just flicker out, yes, sir.

1041
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: And so if they're building off like, look, we had it,

1042
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: if we had more stability at the quarterback position, then

1043
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: this is a different and story. Like if they think

1044
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 2: they're one or two pieces away, like I think the

1045
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 2: world sees it differently than they do, perhaps sure, And

1046
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: if that's how they feel, then this might be the

1047
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: one or two more I know, getting Aaron Rodgers they

1048
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: feel is that thing that can get them to the

1049
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: you know, over the hump of not winning a playoff game.

1050
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 3: And you know what, was it a long time a

1051
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: long time.

1052
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't mind brash behavior. I don't mind big, big,

1053
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: big personalities in sports.

1054
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 4: I think it's a wonderful thing.

1055
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: I do take a look at what the Steelers have

1056
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: done in the last handful of weeks and wonder about

1057
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: what I think is a characteristic that's kind of known

1058
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: to be a steel Deers thing. Like the Steelers kind

1059
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 1: of ooze that blue collar on defense. It's a professional group.

1060
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they've never had personalities, but right this

1061
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a Bill Belichick do your

1062
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: job thing, even without Bill Belichick being there. Let's run

1063
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: the ball, let's play defense, Let's be about Pittsburgh. And

1064
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: then you're going and let's add in Aaron Rodgers and

1065
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey.

1066
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 2: You're like, now, the dkpiece helps, DK helps, it helps.

1067
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: That gives you a legitimate receiver with without the you

1068
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: know for sure will.

1069
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: But like if I'm okay, here i am. I'm Mike Tomlin.

1070
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: And over the last seven years, I've worked my way

1071
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: out of Antonio Brown, I've worked my way out of

1072
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: George Pickens. I turned that into DK Metcalf and then

1073
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: I go Aaron Rodgers and Jalen Ramsey, I just like, Okay,

1074
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: it might be fine.

1075
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 3: It might be fine, like putting a house on the house.

1076
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, totally. Do you remember this deal, Like this

1077
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: is kind of in the weeds baseball, but like two

1078
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: three years ago, the Colorado Rockies were held bent on

1079
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: trading Nolan Aernado. And this is right after they had

1080
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: signed into one of those mega deals mega deal, And

1081
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: then like a year later, they're like, we're trading him,

1082
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: and they did. They traded Nolan Aernado to the Saint

1083
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: Louis Cardinals, and so the signal was, yeah, you know,

1084
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: we're kind of like, I get it, it was a

1085
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: great player, but we were over our skis were going

1086
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: to reboot this thing financially, so let's get picks, let's

1087
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: kind of build from the ground up again. And then

1088
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: like a couple months later, they signed Chris Bryant in

1089
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: the offseason to like one hundred and eighty million dollar deal,

1090
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: and Chris Bryant has been not even flirting with the

1091
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: idea of healthy since then, and the Rockies have not

1092
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: even flirted with the idea of winning more than two

1093
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: games in a week since then, And so that's I

1094
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: guess that's an example of what I'm talking about. It.

1095
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, you guys got to pick a direction here,

1096
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: tell us who you are. That's fine, stick with it

1097
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: as opposed to this is who we are, and then

1098
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: next week except for now, we're going to go the

1099
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: other way. And then we're going to go the other way.

1100
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: And that's what I feel about the Steelers offseason.

1101
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: I get it, but the only way we should go

1102
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 2: is to Steve the Seger because he is our That's true.

1103
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 8: By the way. Yeah, after that comment, I had to

1104
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 8: look up the Chris Bryant salary. He still do another

1105
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 8: twenty seven million dollars per year for your next three years.

1106
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: There it is, there, it is. I mean, he's had

1107
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: what like three four bats a year since they got him.

1108
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 8: He's played less than one hundred and sixty two games

1109
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 8: total I think the last three or four years.

1110
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: Oh wow, like the Joe l Embiid of baseball. Except

1111
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: for that, he's a nice guy and everyone's life down.

1112
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:17,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, and he was on a championship team not too comes.

1113
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yikes.

1114
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 8: That's wow. That's well baseball contracts, that's a whole another story. Well,

1115
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 8: US soccer mens soccer has just lost the Gold Cup

1116
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 8: final two to one to Mexico. Was one to one

1117
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 8: in Houston at the half. Mexico was the better team

1118
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 8: in the tournament and a better team in this game tonight.

1119
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 8: The American's only goal came in the fourth minute. They

1120
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 8: could not tally after that. The go ahead goal for

1121
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 8: Mexico came in the seventy seventh minute. The winners had

1122
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 8: sixty percent of the possession tonight. They outshot the US

1123
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 8: sixteen to six. Corner kicks Mexico had twelve in the game.

1124
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 8: The US had zero corner kicks in this came. Attendance

1125
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 8: in Houston was seventy one thousand. By the way, the

1126
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 8: FIFA Club World Cup is going on and yesterday in Atlanta,

1127
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 8: indoors on grass yesterday attending sixty seven thousand. It's parisandermin

1128
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 8: eliminated Bayern Munich so Wednesday in a semifinal It's going

1129
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 8: to be parisanjer Man Messi's old team against Real Madrid.

1130
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 8: Madrid won its quarterfinal on Saturday in New Jersey. Attended

1131
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 8: seventy six thousand for that one. WNBA wins for Las Vegas,

1132
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 8: Seattle and Minnesota, which is seventeen and two after beating

1133
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 8: Chicago eighty to seventy five. NASCAR Chicago Street Race today

1134
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 8: went to Shane ving Gisbergen and Scott Dixon won the

1135
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 8: IndyCar Race at mid Ohio to Major League Baseball Cubs eleven,

1136
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 8: Cardinals nothing, and it's only top of the sixth inning.

1137
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 8: The starting pitcher for the Cubs tonight is a guy

1138
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 8: that was just added by Major League Baseball to the

1139
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 8: NL All Star roster. Tonight, Matthew Boyd went five scoreless

1140
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 8: innings with nine strikeouts eleven nothing. The Cubs lead at

1141
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 8: home even though they've only hit one homer at Wrigley. Today,

1142
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 8: underway at San Diego, it is thanks to an early

1143
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 8: Corey Seeger RBI double Rangers won nothing over the Padres

1144
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 8: in the bottom of the first and in a half

1145
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 8: an hour. The A's in West Sacramento will be hosting

1146
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 8: the San Francisco Giants. By the way, San Diego pitcher

1147
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 8: you Darvish is due to make his season debut on Monday.

1148
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 8: After a bad elbow, Milwaukee's brand Granted Woodriff finally got

1149
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 8: back on a mound after injury, made his season debut

1150
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 8: and got the win. Brewers won three to one at

1151
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 8: Miami Woodrift six innings, eight strikeouts, no walks. And then

1152
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 8: there was the pitching performance of Zach Wheeler in Philadelphia.

1153
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 8: The Phils beat Cincinnati three to one. Wheeler the winner,

1154
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 8: a complete game, one hitter, no walks, twelve strikeouts. He's

1155
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 8: nine to three eer two point one seven. Yes, he's

1156
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 8: an All Star. Brysonstatt two run homer in the bottom

1157
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 8: of the eighth. Boston won six to four at Washington.

1158
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 8: The Nationals, the last place team in the NLS, fired

1159
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 8: manager Dave Martinez and GM Mike Rizzo. Baltimore sent Atlanta

1160
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 8: to a fourth straight loss, two to one. Jackson Holliday,

1161
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 8: whose dad Matt Holliday, used to be a star with

1162
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 8: the Colorado Rockies. Jackson had four for four day, including

1163
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 8: a two run homer in the Baltimore win. Toronto, though,

1164
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 8: won its eighth straight game, three to two over the Angels.

1165
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 8: The Blue Jays are the first place team in the

1166
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 8: AL E still three games over the Yankees and Tampa Bay.

1167
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 8: Yankees won six to four at the Mets, Aaron Judge

1168
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 8: his thirty third homer, and Tampa Bay won in ten

1169
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 8: innings seven to five at Minnesota Houston beat the Dodgers

1170
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 8: in LA again, five to one. Houston has won nineteen

1171
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 8: of its last twenty four games, victories for Kansas City, Seattle,

1172
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 8: and Colorado, which beat the White Sox six to four.

1173
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 8: And finally, the All Star Game reserves and pitchers were

1174
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 8: announced tonight. They do include injured Braves pitcher Chris Sale.

1175
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 8: The game will be in Atlanta week from Tuesday on

1176
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 8: Fox TV. Dodger pitcher Clayton Kershaw was named as the

1177
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 8: Commissioner's Legend selection. Kershaw's now an eleven time All Star

1178
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 8: and at age thirty seventy is four and oh. This year,

1179
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 8: the Dodgers lead all teams with five All Stars in

1180
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 8: the AL, four All Star players each for Detroit having

1181
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 8: a great year and for Seattle, nineteen different players get

1182
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 8: their first career All Star nod. You know in baseball,

1183
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 8: all thirty teams have to have at least one player named.

1184
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 8: One of those guys that's going to be in the

1185
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 8: All Star Game is Washington rookie outfielder James Wood. At

1186
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 8: age twenty two, he is the youngest All Star on

1187
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 8: either roster. He'll also be in the Home Run Derby

1188
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 8: and the a shortstop Jacob Wilson is one of two

1189
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 8: rookies on the rosters this year. He was voted by

1190
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 8: the fans as a starter. And final note, there are

1191
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 8: twenty three internationally born players on this year's All Star

1192
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 8: rosters in Major League Baseball. That's just over thirty percent

1193
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 8: of the teams. That includes eight men from the Dominican Republic.

1194
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 3: Pick to you.

1195
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of Juan Soto and not being on the team,

1196
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: and James wood Is once traded for one another, Washington

1197
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: did pretty well. As it turns out with that deal.

1198
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 8: You got to cure Mackenzie Gore, as I recall from

1199
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 8: the Padres, who was named an All Star.

1200
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: Sure did, Sure did so. Steve great stuff is always

1201
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: appreciate this. And then here thanks yep, Steve may want

1202
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: to stay for this because this is when all of

1203
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: you people who root for the Dodgers get mad at me.

1204
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: This is just a quick aside, but this is my

1205
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: controversial take that I know is never going to land well.

1206
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: But it's what I just wish for you. It's okay,

1207
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't bother me, but I wish this for you.

1208
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: I really do, all of you. Let the Astros thing go.

1209
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: Let it go. It's a while ago now with the.

1210
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 3: Trash Cans let it go.

1211
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 8: I think as long as L two V's on the Rustle,

1212
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 8: I know, because.

1213
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 3: He's the last one left. And as long as he's there.

1214
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 4: I know, I know. But he what he like?

1215
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean the more y'all show up

1216
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: at Dodger Stadium, scream at him and yell at him

1217
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: and two for four with a sixteenth home run. I mean,

1218
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: he crushed the entire series. The Astros sweep the Dodgers.

1219
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: It just every year I watch it and like, I

1220
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: see the series and I watch all of my people,

1221
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: family and friends who are Dodger fans, and their blood pressure.

1222
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 4: Just goes flying through the roof because.

1223
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: Of the Castros. You know what part of it is

1224
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: is I'm a Giants fan, and I'm like, you're supposed

1225
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: to get that way when you play the Giants, not

1226
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: the Astros. Like that's just like it was a thing,

1227
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: it happened. There are plenty of people on the other

1228
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: side of the world who are looking at the Dodgers going,

1229
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: y'all realize Mookie Betts was on the Red Sox when

1230
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:29,839
Speaker 1: they were doing this too.

1231
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 8: Right, quite the same thing.

1232
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 3: No, No, it.

1233
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: Didn't work as well, but like honestly.

1234
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 8: Well they didn't use electronics.

1235
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 1: Just dar, I just want all of you to have

1236
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: your blood pressure go down.

1237
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 8: Well, you should have been speaking to our Steve Hartman, who,

1238
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 8: after he finished his radio show here yesterday, went on

1239
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 8: local TV and gave a diet tribe of why I

1240
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 8: will never forget thank Houston Astros at it and I

1241
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 8: love hearing the booze. And by the way, the Yankees

1242
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,839
Speaker 8: feel about the same about l Twove and the Astros

1243
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 8: because they were prevented from getting to the World Series

1244
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 8: in their opinion. I would fault Major League Baseball partly

1245
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 8: for this, no doubt, because they had the power to

1246
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 8: take away the World Trophy. They shouldn't have given it

1247
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 8: to the Dodgers or anyone else, in my opinion, vacated

1248
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 8: the year after your findings proved cheating in twenty seventeen.

1249
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 8: You have the power to at least remove the trophy.

1250
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: You did. You did, and they could have, and I

1251
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: get it, and if I would probably feel the same

1252
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: way if if I had been rooting for the team

1253
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: that lost the World Series that year. However, however, the

1254
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 1: whole thing at a certain point it's like, okay, you know,

1255
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: just like right this, we all have a few of these.

1256
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: We've all got a few of these where you look

1257
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: back and you're like, we got host. You have to

1258
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: have some of those. They built character, you know, go,

1259
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: this is for you. You gotta let it go.

1260
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 3: Rest of all, this isn't frozen.

1261
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 4: Okay, time to let it go.

1262
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 3: Let it go, Let it go go.

1263
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: You know, Steve Hartman's never going to forgive the Astros,

1264
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: Like I mean, come on.

1265
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, I repeat. There would be more closure for the

1266
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 8: fans that were booing at Dodger Stadium this weekend if

1267
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 8: Major League Baseball had done a better job.

1268
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 3: Just take it away.

1269
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,520
Speaker 8: And that means specifically the commissioner.

1270
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: Then again, you guys also know college sports real well

1271
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: and vacating wins. I've always looked at and been like,

1272
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: you can't tell me it didn't happen.

1273
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 4: I watched it.

1274
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 8: Can you imagine if USC had beaten Texas.

1275
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: Right like I was the Steve knows this. I was

1276
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: the sideline reporter while Reggie Bush won the Heisman. Don't

1277
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: tell me it didn't happen. I watched it from the field.

1278
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: He saw those touchdowns. They happened. You can't tell me

1279
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: he didn't win the Heisman and now he did it,

1280
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: win it again. Now they give it back to him.

1281
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: So I just tided to devacate, vacated anything he doesn't

1282
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: really work.

1283
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 4: Happened. Sorry that it hurt that it happened.

1284
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 3: All right, giants?

1285
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 8: You know, I do notice that when the Detroit manager,

1286
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 8: I mean, then that's a great team. He happens to

1287
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 8: be the guy who was Houston manager that didn't stop

1288
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 8: the cheating in twenty seventeen. He lost his job because

1289
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 8: of it. And nobody, I mean nobody connects the cheating

1290
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 8: with Detroit or Detroit's visit and him getting booed at

1291
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 8: other states that doesn't happen at all, which I find odd.

1292
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 8: I'm not saying it should happen, but you're booing al Tuve,

1293
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 8: I guess just because he's a player on the field

1294
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 8: and therefore more of a known face.

1295
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: But Steve, do you know if Steve Hartman voted for

1296
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,799
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush for the Heisman question?

1297
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 4: That's that's what I would like to hear.

1298
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 8: He has a Heisman vote vote.

1299
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 3: You know what, guys, I heard that same thing.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he voted for Reggie Bush if he uh,

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Speaker 1: if he wanted it vacated or not. He is a

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Speaker 1: UCLA fan, so that might cloud the whole thing too.

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Speaker 8: And I'm guessing, you know, Steve for the vote, probably

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Speaker 8: didn't you know, have a relative get a free house

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Speaker 8: or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: But we don't know that for sure.

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Speaker 8: No, but I think if ya who had investigated, we

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Speaker 8: would have found out he.

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Speaker 1: Does spend a lot of time in San Diego and

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Speaker 1: San Diego and La and San Diego and La. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: gotta throw this at you because it just came across

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Speaker 1: uh my line a short time ago. Cam Newton thinks

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Speaker 1: maybe that Jay Daniels is a one hit wonder. I'd

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Speaker 1: like to get your response to that, so we'll do

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Speaker 1: that next with you from Salama Mark Wellard.

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Speaker 4: This is Fox Sports Radio with me from.

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Speaker 1: Salam Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio Independence Day weekend. Hope

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Speaker 1: everybody is out and about staying safe doing the darn thing,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for finishing up the weekend with us.

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Speaker 4: We very very much appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton's been an interesting guy since he kind of

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Speaker 1: left the game and sort of kind of maybe became

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Speaker 1: a part of the media. I can't track Cam. I

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Speaker 1: can't figure out where he is, what he's doing, what

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Speaker 1: he's all about. I do know, though, that when his

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Speaker 1: name kind of pops up, it's usually because he doesn't

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Speaker 1: think a current quarterback who's really good is actually good.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of what I've noticed about Cam, and I

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Speaker 1: find that to be an unbecoming characteristic. I'm not into it.

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Speaker 1: I don't dig former quarterbacks who seemingly only show up

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Speaker 1: to tell you about current quarterbacks who are not as

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Speaker 1: good as you think they are, or as their numbers

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Speaker 1: suggest they are. He's done this a lot with anybody

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Speaker 1: who's put on a Panther's uniform. He's done this with

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Speaker 1: Brock Purdy. Now he's doing it with jade and Daniels.

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Speaker 1: Now this is a tough nut to crack. Jadeen Daniels,

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Speaker 1: he believes has similarities to RG three and might be

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Speaker 1: a one hit. Wonder, what's your reaction to that?

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Speaker 2: That sounds ridiculous. Is as ridiculous as those triple shirt tie.

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Speaker 3: Heads. Hey, right, look, I mean media now is.

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Speaker 2: You know everybody has a hot take. Like when you

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Speaker 2: have a podcast, you have to generate value for yourself.

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Speaker 2: The difference between radio terrestrial radio Serious XM and a

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Speaker 2: podcast is once you are on, like you you've built

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Speaker 2: up an audience a traditional way in terms of like

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Speaker 2: Serious XM was here when iHeart was here. Before we

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Speaker 2: got here. We came, we brought fans, we brought energy,

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Speaker 2: we brought our takes. But when you're doing a podcast,

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Speaker 2: you're starting from zero, and so you have to how

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01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 2: do I get people to pay attention to this?

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Speaker 3: What can I do for people to mention it?

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Speaker 2: Whether it be good or bad. That's that's the thing,

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Speaker 2: whether it's good or bad. As long as they're mentioning it,

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Speaker 2: you got a shot to increase value. So if you

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Speaker 2: know that people are going to talk about your hot

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Speaker 2: takes or your hot fashion, then you'll double down and

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Speaker 2: triple down and that'll just become what it is.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We had a colleague here who who did that, Clay

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Speaker 2: Travis mm hmm. And I've worked with Clay, you have,

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Speaker 2: we all have. And then he became something else and

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Speaker 2: I was like, wait, what what did they say. We've

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Speaker 2: had a couple of colleagues like that, indeed, And so

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Speaker 2: you go, where do you feel you can increase your

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Speaker 2: value whether you believe some of the stuff you're saying

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Speaker 2: or not.

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Speaker 3: And that's what.

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Speaker 2: That's what podcasts allow you to do, because you can

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Speaker 2: get a very lucrative podcast deal being that guy, are

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Speaker 2: being different, are not conforming? You become the non conforming conformist. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm different. I don't do that, but then I do it,

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Speaker 2: but I do it my way, not their way. Nothing

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Speaker 2: about Jaden Daniel's rookie season could lead you to saying

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Speaker 2: that he's a one hit wonder or like RG three.

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Speaker 3: Nothing.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about zero, his approach to the game, his abilities,

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Speaker 2: his leadership zero. And for you to say that, then

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Speaker 2: you're on brand. But the brand you created you already

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Speaker 2: talked about earlier that this is what he does, this is.

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Speaker 4: What he does.

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Speaker 1: You should type in Cam Newton into Google and do

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Speaker 1: a news search right now. First story, Cam Newton says

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Speaker 1: that Shador Sanders will always be hated. Third story, Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton calls out Geno Smith. Fifth story, former NFL MVP

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Speaker 1: questions if Jaden Daniels will be a one hit wonder.

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Speaker 1: It's simply a list of all of the quarterbacks that

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton is taking shots at. And so, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think it's I don't know if this is what's

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Speaker 1: actually going on, but this is what a lot of

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Speaker 1: people think.

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Speaker 4: Is what it feels like when you read all of this.

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Speaker 1: It's just like Cam does not like how the world

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Speaker 1: views him, so he's trying to bring everybody else down

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Speaker 1: to what he right where he sits at least in

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Speaker 1: his own mind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he feels that he didn't get his

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Speaker 2: just due. But we all watched his career play out

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Speaker 2: in front of our eyes and then the almost well,

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Speaker 2: I guess we're trying to resurgence of his career. It

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Speaker 2: just was dead, and so now you can have a

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Speaker 2: pretty lucrative career being that guy. What's it called? What's it?

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Speaker 3: What's the name of the podcast?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't even know. I don't even know, some

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Speaker 1: sort of something. You know, A lot of it is, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of it is him joining other people's podcast.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but that's the thing that you're that guy, So

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Speaker 3: they book you for that.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep, little little little LeVar Ball thing going on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so anyway, that's how I feel about it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I haven't asked you about DeAndre Aid and yet

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Speaker 1: we still got an hour ago and I'm just now

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Speaker 1: asking you about Aiden. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Off we go into the Sunday evening live from the

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio studios, and we've spent quite a bit

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Speaker 1: of time tonight talking about how the NBA maybe has

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Speaker 1: gotten a little ahead of itself with how it's doing

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01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: its off season, the trades, the signings, the aprons, the

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Speaker 1: luxury tax, how the heck is a fan supposed to follow?

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Speaker 1: This One thing I did appreciate this week from DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Aiden to the Lakers that I got. The Blazers were like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: no thanks, please leave, And the Lakers were like, we

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Speaker 1: need someone tall, how about if you come here? And

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Speaker 1: so they did. But it is obviously not without question

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Speaker 1: and not without intrigue.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the Lakers needed.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he is a double double machine, however, not a

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Speaker 1: floor spacer, not gonna shoot from the outside. Questions about

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Speaker 1: his own motivation through the years, which to me is

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Speaker 1: always the biggest head scratcher of them all. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to hear what you think about DeAndre Ayton on

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Speaker 1: the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: I think we needed somebody to be a lot presence.

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Speaker 2: I think he gives you that. We need somebody to rebound.

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Speaker 2: I think he gives you that. And I think playing

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Speaker 2: with greatness elevates players. It's hard to be selfish and

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01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 2: uninspired when you have greatness on your team. And you know,

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Speaker 2: the Lakers are player led locker room, so we know

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Speaker 2: JJ Reddick will get under your skin, and so I

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Speaker 2: don't think the motivating factor will be a problem when

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Speaker 2: you look at their starting lineup is pretty good with

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Speaker 2: look at the one Austin Reeves, Lebron James, Rory Hashimorro

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Speaker 2: and uh DeAndre Ayton. I mean that's not a bad

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Speaker 2: starting five at all. Can everybody stay healthy? And you know,

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Speaker 2: does Lebron have another year like he had last year?

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Speaker 2: In and so it's promising because we needed and he

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Speaker 2: got the jackson A's coming off the bench at the

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Speaker 2: backup center, need a little bit more depth at different positions.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what Bronnie James looks like a different person

1452
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: in summer league? Good lord, you did you see him

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Speaker 2: play today?

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Speaker 3: Goodness?

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Speaker 1: Like yes, but a from me if I had a

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Speaker 1: dollar for all the people who showed out in summer.

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Speaker 3: Ly, Yeah, I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 2: But all I'm talking about the thing I look for

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01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 2: in the second year players in some league. Have you

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Speaker 2: been working on the things you needed to work on

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Speaker 2: in your time off? That's all I can grade you.

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Speaker 1: That's all you can do.

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Speaker 3: That's all I do. And so.

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Speaker 2: You know, I like, you know, Dalton connects aggressiveness. I

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Speaker 2: think he can take better shots. I like Bronnie's James

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Speaker 2: running the point and handling the ball and attacking the rim.

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 2: I'm an optimist when it comes to the team. But

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Speaker 2: you know how long an NBA season is, So it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, you can start out on fire. And you know,

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Speaker 2: do I think they have enough to make it to

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Speaker 2: the playoffs? I do, if everybody's healthy, plus you know,

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Speaker 2: whatever pieces they add trade deadline and so on and

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Speaker 2: so forth and the rest of this offseason.

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Speaker 3: But I think that's a good big. I mean, it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: There weren't a lot of bigs out there left and

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Speaker 2: so and even you know they were talking about Brook Lopez.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's not the big you would need with

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Speaker 2: a Luca and a lebron He's not setting the high

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01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 2: screen and rolling and catching the lob. He's gonna run

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Speaker 2: over to the short corner and hang out. All right,

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Speaker 2: He's gonna trail. He's gonna he's gonna be at the

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Speaker 2: top for the trail three. I don't know if LA

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Speaker 2: needs that big as a floor spacer. I need somebody

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01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 2: a free throw line extended, and who's gonna play above

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Speaker 2: the rim?

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Speaker 3: That's that's what you need, yea.

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Speaker 4: I feel you.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if the football player in you ever thinks

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Speaker 1: about this though. And again I don't know these players personally,

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Speaker 1: but I do know this. If I ever hear the

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Speaker 1: idea that a player has a hard time, I'm you know, trying.

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Speaker 1: I'm just out, like I don't even want to. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to mess with that person. I don't want

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Speaker 1: my team to be the team that's like we can

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Speaker 1: fix him.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And so there's certain players around the league I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go with just oh, what do

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Speaker 1: people say. I like to look at what people do.

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Speaker 1: So this is something that came up this week. For example,

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Speaker 1: when the Washington Wizards included Jordan Poole in a trade

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Speaker 1: that brought them CJ McCollum, and people go, oh, Washington

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Speaker 1: wanted CJ. McCollum, and I'm like, no, they didn't. They

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Speaker 1: wanted a contract that expired sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 4: That's all they wanted.

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Speaker 1: And it's the same thing the Warriors did when they

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Speaker 1: got Chris Paul for Jordan Poole. You notice Jordan keeps

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Speaker 1: getting traded for older players. Why is that because their

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Speaker 1: contract's about to expire. What that tells me is two

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Speaker 1: NBA franchises have now decided the exact exact same thing.

1512
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: We'd rather have the salary slot than Jordan. And now

1513
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 1: two NBA franchises, even though one of them is a

1514
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: moronic franchise, two NBA franchises have been like, I think

1515
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 1: we'd rather if this DeAndre Ayton guy just wasn't here,

1516
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 1: That's what we'd rather. And that's what concerns me. Does

1517
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: he get tucked into a culture because of who's there. Maybe? Maybe,

1518
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 1: But at the same time that would bother me that

1519
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 1: two teams have been like, yeah, we just don't want

1520
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: him on the team.

1521
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but look at those teams. Though he came into

1522
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 3: the League of the Suns.

1523
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's why I said one of them, Yeah,

1524
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 1: one of the teams.

1525
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 2: And the Chris Paul Sons, Like Chris Paul's robbed everybody

1526
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 2: the wrong way, sure, including his friends. And then you

1527
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 2: go to Siberia and Portland. I mean, and all you

1528
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 2: did was average a double double while you were there.

1529
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 2: So you get to the point where and look, and

1530
01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 2: I agree with you in terms of you show up,

1531
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 2: you show out. You're a professional athlete. But hell, I mean,

1532
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 2: you wouldn't be engaged either in those places.

1533
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,480
Speaker 4: Maybe not, but I like, I don't know, fans don't.

1534
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 3: But you can't come here and do that. And yeah,

1535
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 3: and everybody know that.

1536
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: And and by the way, that Son's team, okay, Chris

1537
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 1: Paul rubbed me the wrong way, Like, I don't know,

1538
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 1: is that an excuse. No, that Son's team early on

1539
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 1: was actually trying to do something.

1540
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 2: They were But you know, you got to remember DeAndre

1541
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 2: Aiden was a young player, and there's certain ways you

1542
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 2: had to deal with young players, and so.

1543
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 3: You know, Chris Paul was.

1544
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 2: And beyond the old player, and he wanted things to

1545
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 2: happen now, and you know a lot of young players

1546
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 2: have been ruined by that level of you got you

1547
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 2: should know this, and eh, how though he was a

1548
01:27:56,400 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 2: teenager and guys who want to win now don't have

1549
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 2: a lot of time for growth on the roster are

1550
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 2: learning curves.

1551
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:09,759
Speaker 4: No doubt.

1552
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you literally just described the Jonathan kaminga situation

1553
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: in Golden just described it in two yences. That's it.

1554
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:21,719
Speaker 3: He's a phenomenal talent.

1555
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 2: They didn't have, They had no designs on waiting for

1556
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:25,839
Speaker 2: that to come to fruition.

1557
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 4: No, they still don't.

1558
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,600
Speaker 1: Still they still don't, and actually.

1559
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 3: Give us I will take him good.

1560
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, no, he's a very very talented guy.

1561
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 1: But at the same time, what I see in a

1562
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: lot and I actually think there's some overlap here with

1563
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 1: what Lebron's going through and however he's feeling. When you're

1564
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 1: looking at a team and a player and they have

1565
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: at least a little bit of competing interests, you have

1566
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 1: a problem. You have a problem, and people get all

1567
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 1: bent out of shape to get mad at the player

1568
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 1: or they get mad at the team and they go,

1569
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 1: you can't do this, do that, And I'm looking at

1570
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 1: the whole thing going I kind of I'm not trying

1571
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: to be flip floppy I understand where both sides are

1572
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 1: coming from here. I'm not bothered by the fact that

1573
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 1: Jonathan Kaminga wants to be a star. He wants to

1574
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 1: be a star, he wants to be paid like a star.

1575
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 1: He wants an opportunity to do that. Meantime, the Warriors

1576
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 1: are like, that role is taken here, give the ball up.

1577
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 4: We have Steph Curry.

1578
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 3: On this team, and Jimmy Butler and.

1579
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler and Lebron. Is the same thing here where

1580
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 1: the Lakers are like, dude, you're eighty years old. We

1581
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 1: need to start thinking about the future. And He's like,

1582
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 1: you totally do. At the same time, I'm still Lebron,

1583
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm still good and I still want.

1584
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,640
Speaker 2: To win when I'm glad he just picked up his

1585
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 2: player option because now we know there's an end date

1586
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 2: on that thing there is, right, he gonna make a

1587
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 2: run for it this year and then you know, God

1588
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 2: bless him, whatever he decides to do, go do it.

1589
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 4: Is that what you think is going to happen?

1590
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 1: You think that I think they play on the Lakers

1591
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 1: this year?

1592
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 3: This year? Oh yes, huh, yeah, I do.

1593
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 4: You're probably right.

1594
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 2: You gotta remember it's just not Lebron here. So he's

1595
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 2: having the time of his life playing with his son

1596
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 2: like that is a real thing for sure, v here

1597
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,480
Speaker 2: where he lives, where his daughter is going to school.

1598
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 4: And I get it.

1599
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 1: But there's also like, I mean, how many years left

1600
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 1: are there?

1601
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 2: No, I mean this may be his last year. I'm

1602
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 2: sure it'll be one more after this.

1603
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 1: Probably he's going to advertise it when he goes well.

1604
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he'll be he'll pick and choose a situation.

1605
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 3: That he wants.

1606
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 2: Didd'll try to get him to see what well Lebron

1607
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 2: James can't afford to do and his legacy conversation in

1608
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 2: the goat conversation, and I'll get into that. My uh my,

1609
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 2: my cousin came over. My first cousin's son came over.

1610
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 3: He's in town.

1611
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 2: He's from Maryland, had an internship out here, and he's

1612
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 2: twenty one years old. Him and his roommate came over.

1613
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:22,639
Speaker 2: And you know, you know, talking to kids about about

1614
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:27,719
Speaker 2: greatness and sports in today's society is almost like talking

1615
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:28,639
Speaker 2: to a bot of water.

1616
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 3: But we'll get there.

1617
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 2: And I told him I'm going to talk about you

1618
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 2: live the air.

1619
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 1: Oh you know, I love this.

1620
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my cousin his story time about about cousin Ethan.

1621
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 4: We usually we usually don't get story time in the

1622
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:46,639
Speaker 4: in the in the last.

1623
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 3: Time story time.

1624
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:52,520
Speaker 1: Oh this is exciting. It's very very exciting. Okay, everybody freeze,

1625
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 1: but don't go anywhere, because it's storytime. I'm here in

1626
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: the Fox Sports radios s with e from Salama, Mark Willard,

1627
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: and Storytime with the from is coming up next on

1628
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio.

1629
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 4: Okay, these right here are the Fox Sports.

1630
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 1: Radio studios, and we have been told that story Time

1631
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 1: with the from Salami is about to happen. I mean,

1632
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 1: I literally got people on Twitter coming at me, going yay,

1633
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 1: this is what we love. We don't get it every week,

1634
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 1: but when we do, we sit back, you crack a drink,

1635
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 1: maybe get a snack, and maybe you learn something or

1636
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 1: maybe you're entertained by something, maybe both. There's only one

1637
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 1: way to find out. Hearing these Fox Sports Radio studios. First,

1638
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 1: allow me to remind you that the best pregame show

1639
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 1: every weekend happens right here on Fox Sports Radio. It's

1640
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 1: called Countingdown, presented by bet MGM. It is every Saturday

1641
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,600
Speaker 1: and Sunday, nine to noon in the East six to

1642
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: nine in the West count Down to all of the

1643
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 1: biggest games. Please tune in the Countdown presented by MGM

1644
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 1: every Saturday and Sunday right here on Fox Sports Radio

1645
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:12,480
Speaker 1: and the iHeartRadio app. And now we give you storytime

1646
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 1: with you from.

1647
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 3: Salam So over the weekend. You know, of course it's

1648
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:20,799
Speaker 3: July fourth.

1649
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 2: We wake up and we were just we we didn't

1650
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 2: have any plans, so it was kind of impromptu where

1651
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 2: we like, hey, let's you know, my cousin my nephews

1652
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 2: called and it was like, hey, what.

1653
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 3: Are you guys doing? Can we come over? And can

1654
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 3: I bring my girlfriend?

1655
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1656
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 3: And so you know, lo and behold my.

1657
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 2: Neighbor Jack Great, I came Jack great guy came over.

1658
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:51,599
Speaker 2: And then my cousins are here from from Maryland and

1659
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 2: he has an internship out here.

1660
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 3: You know, twenty one years old, got to.

1661
01:33:56,479 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 2: World by the hairs. Yep, he knows everything about everything

1662
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 2: and knows nothing about anything all at the same time.

1663
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 2: Perfect and so which you know, what did they say that, Yeah,

1664
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 2: the youth is wasted on the young indeed, yes, and

1665
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 2: so we were.

1666
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:19,759
Speaker 3: It was. It was a great day now.

1667
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 2: In basketball in the basketball tournament in the backyard, we

1668
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 2: got pool, we got the barbecue.

1669
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 3: It was a nice impromptu situation. And so the.

1670
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 2: Evening was winding down and we're in the kitchen and

1671
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 2: we're talking about basketball and I walk in in my

1672
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 2: ten year old eleven year old now was like, hey, Dad,

1673
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 2: who do you think Ethan thinks is the greatest player

1674
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 2: of all time?

1675
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know who. And he was

1676
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 3: like Lebron James.

1677
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 2: And I said, okay, why And the first thing he

1678
01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 2: led with was well, he's the all time leading scorer.

1679
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 2: And I said, let me stop you right there. I said,

1680
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 2: if that's what you're starting with, then you've lost the argument.

1681
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 2: For what are you talking about? I said, because a

1682
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 2: year and a half ago, we before Lebron James broke

1683
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 2: that record, we weren't talking about Kareem Abdul Jabbar being

1684
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 2: the greatest player of all time.

1685
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 3: Nope, we were saying it was Michael Jordan. And so.

1686
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 2: Just on the basis of that, if that's where you

1687
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 2: want to start your campaign, then you're absolutely wrong. And

1688
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 2: he was like what I said, Yeah, do you understand

1689
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 2: that correlation? Like you started with a metric that we've

1690
01:35:56,000 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 2: never used for anyone else like, that's not why we

1691
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 2: say Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time. That's

1692
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 2: why that's why we don't say Kareem is the greatest

1693
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 2: of all time. And so he was kind of befuddled

1694
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 2: a little bit, and then we proceed to go on

1695
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 2: this down this journey of him not fully understanding the

1696
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 2: scope of knowledge I have about basketball.

1697
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 3: And so.

1698
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 2: When I was explaining him the reason I believe and

1699
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 2: I'm a Laker guy, I'm a Magic, a Kobe, you know,

1700
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 2: a Kareem, I'm a Laker guy. Even Lebron as a Laker,

1701
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 2: I said, but the reason Michael Jordan, in my opinion,

1702
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 2: is the greatest basketball player of all time is because

1703
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:58,759
Speaker 2: Number one, he's never had Game seven in the finals.

1704
01:36:58,800 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 3: He's six and zero.

1705
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:05,879
Speaker 2: Number two, it's only happened four times where a player

1706
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 2: was uh, MVP of the league, led the league in scoring, defensive,

1707
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 2: Player of the Year, Finals, MVP, and champion. I mean,

1708
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 2: it's only happened four times, and he's done all four.

1709
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 2: And so the most glaring thing for me is when

1710
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan won his first championship, he stopped a generation

1711
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 2: of great players from winning theirs. Yep, I said, how

1712
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 2: many players have won championships in the Lebron James era.

1713
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:49,719
Speaker 1: That's a good question, like all of them.

1714
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 2: So by that metric, for me, Michael Jordan is the

1715
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 2: greatest of all time because we literally saw one of

1716
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 2: the greatest point guard power for duos be stop cold.

1717
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:13,720
Speaker 2: We literally saw teams with the fiftieth greatest, seventy five

1718
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 2: greatest player, not Charles Barkley, everybody because of Michael Jordan.

1719
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 2: And he proceeded to turn to me and say, oh,

1720
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:25,560
Speaker 2: you just don't know basketball.

1721
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 3: Oh oh, oh.

1722
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 2: No, man, I said, I said, I said what now,

1723
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 2: Oh you just don't know basketball? I said, Ethan, how

1724
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 2: old are you? I'm old enough, old enough for what

1725
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm twenty one, I said. Do you know I've been

1726
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 2: in media and have had my own sports TV and

1727
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 2: radio show for over twenty five years.

1728
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 3: You weren't alive, Ethan. You weren't even alive when I've

1729
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:55,719
Speaker 3: been live on the air.

1730
01:38:56,200 --> 01:39:00,879
Speaker 2: Talking about basketball, football, baseball, hockey and everything in between.

1731
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 2: And you're telling me if my kitchen that I don't

1732
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 2: know basketball. And I can probably promise you don't even

1733
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 2: watch whole basketball games, do you?

1734
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 3: Well?

1735
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 2: You know when they start making the boxing id like

1736
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 2: a horse. Exactly, sit down, man, eat your pie, and relax.

1737
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 2: I just you know, you know LEBRONA Like, it's easy

1738
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 2: to just throw out a name, I said, But the

1739
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 2: thing about it, I said, in forty eight hours, I'll

1740
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 2: be live on the radio and I'll be talking about

1741
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 2: this very moment. Well, I should call in. I said, hey, man,

1742
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 2: you don't want that level of smoke. And you know,

1743
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 2: because people are relentless, you'll have to deal with it

1744
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 2: every single day because if you were on the air,

1745
01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 2: I'd give out your information in terms of your socials

1746
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 2: so they can reach out to you and have a

1747
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 2: spirited debate. I said, so just slow down, young fella.

1748
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 3: I get it.

1749
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 2: You're young, you're twenty one, you're tall, you're handsome, you

1750
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 2: got the world by the by the chest hairs. But

1751
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 2: you don't know nothing about this man. You don't know

1752
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 2: anything about this. And I was like, he was like,

1753
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:38,600
Speaker 2: Lebron's not even my favorite player. And I was like,

1754
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if that makes it worse or better.

1755
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what to do with the favorite.

1756
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 2: I said, who's part of the conversation, I said, who's

1757
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 2: your favorite player? Who's Kevin Durant. I said, Okay, I

1758
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 2: can't even argue with that, But having Lebron James in

1759
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 2: my opinion, as the greatest basketball player to ever live,

1760
01:40:56,200 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 2: I just don't tend finals four wins. That's failing you.

1761
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 2: That's forty.

1762
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: Listen. If debate class assigned me Lebron James, I could

1763
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 1: make the argument yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I could do

1764
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 1: it like it did.

1765
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 4: I could do it.

1766
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:19,599
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have used any of the things that he did.

1767
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:25,680
Speaker 1: I could do it. I think I'd lose, but I

1768
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 1: could try. I do like where you came from. Where

1769
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 1: when we go through the history of basketball and every

1770
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 1: sport has these these best players who never want to ring,

1771
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 1: Like it feels like about eighty five percent of the

1772
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 1: names all played against Jordan. It's Parkley, and it's Reggie Miller,

1773
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 1: and it's Patrick Ewing, and it's stocked in him alone.

1774
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:50,719
Speaker 4: I mean, we could just.

1775
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 3: Go on and on and on.

1776
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: They all played against Lebron. They all played against Lebron.

1777
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, Steph Curry and I mean Michael

1778
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 2: Jordan by the way, Oh yeah right, I got you again.

1779
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 2: Steph Curry and Derk Novitzki and Kawhi Leonard and like,

1780
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 2: it's I'm.

1781
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:16,640
Speaker 3: Tim dunk your kids, Tim Duncan, Jason Tate.

1782
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm je Gies Alexander.

1783
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, has Lebron ever dominated a decade of basketball?

1784
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:36,679
Speaker 2: And by dominated, I mean win championships more than he's

1785
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:40,839
Speaker 2: lost in the decade. The nineties belonged to the Chicago Bulls,

1786
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 2: the eighties belonged to the Lakers, seventies Boston, Like, where

1787
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:55,719
Speaker 2: are we what was it two thousand to tens Golden

1788
01:42:55,720 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 2: State Warriors? Right, so what we're where is the the

1789
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:07,639
Speaker 2: Lebron decade? Miami two two championships, one in Cleveland, one

1790
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:11,640
Speaker 2: with the Lakers? Like where's the dominance over an extended

1791
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:14,559
Speaker 2: period of time? And don't talk to me about going

1792
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 2: to the finals. That's not what we're measuring this thing

1793
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 2: for going to the finals. No one considers the early

1794
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:30,680
Speaker 2: the Bills team that went to four straight Super Bowls. No,

1795
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 2: No one doesn't one of the greatest teams ever, which

1796
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:35,599
Speaker 2: it was, because that's hard to do.

1797
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 3: But we don't even talk about that.

1798
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 1: No, of course not was. The young man's name was Ethan. Yes,

1799
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 1: I wonder if you had said to him, Ethan, I

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01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:51,080
Speaker 1: know what extended dominance looks like better than anyone because

1801
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:53,559
Speaker 1: I work with Steve to.

1802
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 3: Say, I have a Steve to say, Yeah.

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01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:58,959
Speaker 8: That's guys. By the way, Mark, if you got assigned

1804
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 8: in debate class, the sentence Kareem is the greatest basketball

1805
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 8: player in the history of the sport, you could make

1806
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 8: a really good.

1807
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 4: Absolutely good.

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01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 1: My good friend Michael Thompson, who I did a show

1809
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 1: with for years, would get mad. Now obviously he's biased,

1810
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 1: played for the Lakers.

1811
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 4: Whatnot?

1812
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 1: The members are there, Yeah, everything is there, every everything

1813
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 1: is there. The barbershop would start screaming about Lebron and

1814
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 1: Michael and and and Thompson would just sit there and

1815
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 1: be like, how come nobody ever brings up Kareem?

1816
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 4: And then he would get mad and that would be

1817
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 4: the end of the argument.

1818
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 8: And he was eighty eight and two in college three years,

1819
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 8: three national championships, three times, the national Player of the Year.

1820
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 8: And then even he with Milwaukee beat the Celtics for

1821
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 8: the championship before he ever got to the Lakers. On

1822
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 8: and on and on, six NBA titles, same as Jordan.

1823
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 8: And also I have said this before on the year

1824
01:44:57,120 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 8: years ago. Sometimes you hear people coming up with their

1825
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 8: list of these are my top ten players in the

1826
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 8: NBA all time, and they don't mention the name Wilt Chamberlain, Like,

1827
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 8: if that happens to you, just stopped talking. You don't

1828
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 8: know what you're talking about. He was MVP of the

1829
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 8: league as a rookie and then later won three MVPs

1830
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 8: in a row and finished at thirty points a game

1831
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 8: for his career and twenty three rebounds a game for

1832
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 8: his career. Even his last season, Wilt, at age thirty six,

1833
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 8: led the NBA in rebounds. I looked it up. There

1834
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:37,759
Speaker 8: were only five guys in the league that year Kareem

1835
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:41,639
Speaker 8: included that averaged over fifteen rebounds a game. Wilt led

1836
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 8: the league at eighteen and a half rebounds a game

1837
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:48,679
Speaker 8: at age thirty six, and then set out and retired. Yes,

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01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 8: he's kind of in the top ten all time. To

1839
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 8: Major League Baseball, we had three night games already. The

1840
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 8: Cubs have won at Wrigley eleven nothing over Saint Louis.

1841
01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 8: In San Diego, it's Texas and the Padres tied up

1842
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 8: one bottom of the fourth. San Diego pitcher You Darvish

1843
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 8: is due to make his season debut on Monday, after

1844
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 8: elbow problems, and in Sacramento it's the Giants over the

1845
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:11,799
Speaker 8: A's one nothing in the bottom of the second. Houston

1846
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 8: beat the Dodgers again in LA five to one with

1847
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 8: three late solo homers. Philadelphia three to one over the Reds,

1848
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:20,679
Speaker 8: the win to Zach Wheeler on a complete game one hitter.

1849
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:23,799
Speaker 8: Boston a six to four winner at Washington. The Nationals

1850
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:27,839
Speaker 8: fired manager Dave Martinez and GM Mike Rizzo. The Yankees

1851
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 8: won at the Mets six to four. Aaron Judge is

1852
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 8: thirty third homer, but Toronto won its eight straight game,

1853
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:35,680
Speaker 8: three to two against the Angels. The Blue Jays are

1854
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 8: first in the Al East, still three games over the

1855
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 8: Yankees and Tampa Bay, which won in ten innings at

1856
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 8: Minnesota seven to five. Detroit won again a ten inning

1857
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 8: win at Cleveland seven to two. The Cleveland Guardians have

1858
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 8: lost ten in a row. The All Star reserves and

1859
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 8: pitchers were announced tonight. They include first baseman of the

1860
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:57,360
Speaker 8: Dodgers Freddie Freeman, an All Star for the seventh straight time,

1861
01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 8: and the All Star Game is going to be in Atlanta,

1862
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 8: where he to play. Yankee All Star pitcher Max Fried

1863
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:05,759
Speaker 8: will be there. He is a former Brave US men's

1864
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 8: soccer lost the Gold Cup final in Houston tonight two

1865
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:12,720
Speaker 8: to one to Mexico. In the WNBA Minnesota Is seventeen

1866
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 8: and two after beating Chicago eighty to seventy five. Angel

1867
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,439
Speaker 8: Reece named an All Star reserve today. In defeat, had

1868
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:24,240
Speaker 8: sixteen points seventeen rebounds. Reese had six assists six turnovers

1869
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 8: in that loss. NASCAR Chicago Street Race went to Shane

1870
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:30,599
Speaker 8: van Gisbergen from New Zealand. He also won the Saturday

1871
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 8: Xfinity Race there, also from pole position. Scott Dixon took

1872
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:37,599
Speaker 8: the IndyCar Race at mid Ohio and at Wimbledon, number

1873
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 8: one seed Arena Sablenca won her fourth round match Men's

1874
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 8: number two Carlos Alcaraz advance on the PGA Tour. Brian

1875
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 8: Campbell won in a playoff in Illinois. He finished about

1876
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 8: a half hour ahead of the final group, so we

1877
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 8: went back to the clubhouse and then went back out

1878
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:54,679
Speaker 8: on the course and won on the first playoff hole.

1879
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 8: This guy, it turns out, won the Mexico Open in

1880
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:01,639
Speaker 8: late February in a playoff. He has two victories this season,

1881
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,600
Speaker 8: both in playoffs. Otherwise he has finished out of the

1882
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 8: top thirty in every tournament he's entered this year, but

1883
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 8: apparently this one might be enough to get him into

1884
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 8: the Open overseas, depending on how high he moves up

1885
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:16,160
Speaker 8: in the world ranking that comes out tomorrow, because that's

1886
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 8: traditionally used as the alternate list. But each golfer this weekend,

1887
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:23,799
Speaker 8: the two that were in the playoff, Campbell and Emiliano Grezio,

1888
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 8: they had posted identical scores all four days, and quickly

1889
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 8: Campbell wins on the one extra hole and takes home

1890
01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 8: one point five million dollars second place, about nine hundred thousand.

1891
01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 8: So yes, the difference of one golf shot at the

1892
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 8: end is a difference of six hundred thousand dollars. Yeah,

1893
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:48,839
Speaker 8: golf was off today. It'll be in Spain next weekend

1894
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:50,599
Speaker 8: and then in the UK in late July.

1895
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:55,480
Speaker 1: Back to you, okay, Steve, great stuff, great stuff. Appreciate

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01:48:55,560 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 1: you as always am. Throughout the entire evening. We are

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01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 1: live in the Fox Sports Radio studios, and please do

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01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:06,360
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01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:08,160
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1901
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1905
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:24,840
Speaker 1: after we get off the air. I have to be

1906
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 1: real with you. First of all, I really really enjoyed storytime.

1907
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 4: I love that.

1908
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:34,800
Speaker 1: But and I guess I shouldn't say but and and

1909
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:40,639
Speaker 1: also at the same time, whenever the Lebron Michael thing

1910
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 1: comes up, I just kind of shut down.

1911
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Speaker 4: But especially if somebody's coming with some kind of.

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Speaker 1: Take, like like your boy Ethan, Yeah, do you know? Like, again,

1913
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 1: Steve's not wrong. There's a number of people that I

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01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 1: could sit here and make. Of course, yes, I could

1915
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 1: take the case. But I've also learned and maybe this

1916
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 1: is just us getting older, right, I can't do the

1917
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 1: argument where I know that even if we have it

1918
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 1: or call it a debate, even if we have it

1919
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 1: and one side clearly wins the debate, the other side

1920
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 1: is still going to be like, no, you did not

1921
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 1: win the debate. I'm not changed. No, everyone's too dug in.

1922
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 3: Everyone hills right, heels or dug in.

1923
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 9: This.

1924
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 1: Lebron and MJ is like Democrats and Republicans like it

1925
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:40,559
Speaker 1: is does not matter what anybody says. Everybody's dug in

1926
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:43,759
Speaker 1: and that's where we are, period. Thank you for playing.

1927
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like whole conversations just kind of

1928
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 1: a waste of time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's all it's also about like it's hard

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Speaker 2: for me when when when you debate with people and

1931
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 2: you have, you know, things to back your opinion up,

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01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:07,000
Speaker 2: and they just go, well, that's just that's just who

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Speaker 2: I think.

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01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:10,679
Speaker 3: And I'm like, wait, what.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what I think. I don't care that what

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Speaker 1: you just said was a good point. I am going

1937
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Speaker 1: to ignore it.

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Speaker 2: I think he said some off the wall crazy thing

1939
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Speaker 2: like like Lebron James was a bet. Yes, he did

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Speaker 2: say it. Lebron James was a better defender than Jordan

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Speaker 2: and Kobe Bryant. And I said, man, I said, Bro,

1942
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Speaker 2: slap yourself. I said, hold out your hand. He hold

1943
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Speaker 2: it out, I said, and I slap yourself. I said,

1944
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Speaker 2: how many times was Kobe Bryant? No, how many times

1945
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Speaker 2: was Kobe Bryant all defense?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but it wasn't more than Lebron. I said.

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Speaker 3: And this is why.

1949
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Speaker 2: I was told by my grandmother don't argue with fools

1950
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Speaker 2: because people from a distance can't tell who is who.

1951
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Speaker 2: And you're sitting up here. You made a statement and

1952
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Speaker 2: you have zero to back it, but like.

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Speaker 3: You, you can't.

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Speaker 2: Even Lebron James has been All Defense six times. Kobe

1955
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Speaker 2: Bryant has been more than anyone, which is twelve times.

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Speaker 2: Twelve times, so what are we talking about? Twelve is

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Speaker 2: more than six. And I'm like you, just like when

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Speaker 2: you when you're arguing and you start your whole thing

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Speaker 2: with the point total the all time leading scorer. That's

1960
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Speaker 2: not the metric. It's not the metric.

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Speaker 1: That's not the wall well that that I would think

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Speaker 1: on which we can all agree that that's not the things.

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Speaker 3: That's not it because it's never been.

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Speaker 2: I said, So you can't now use it because it.

1965
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Speaker 3: Helps your point, Like no one has ever used that.

1966
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Speaker 2: To say who the all time greatest player was in

1967
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Speaker 2: this you know era, the era that we've been alive, right,

1968
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Speaker 2: Because then you go to Bill Russell with the championships, right,

1969
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Speaker 2: So let's not let's Kareem was the all time leading

1970
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Speaker 2: score for decades prior to a year and a half ago.

1971
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Speaker 2: Does that put Michael Jordan after he did that over

1972
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Speaker 2: I mean Lebron over Michael Jordan. After that, I think not.

1973
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Speaker 2: A championship didn't come with it. Two more didn't come

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Speaker 2: with it.

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Speaker 4: I think not. I think not.

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Speaker 2: So that's all I was saying. I was like and

1977
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Speaker 2: look like I kept saying in my opinion, but I

1978
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Speaker 2: also backed my opinion up well.

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Speaker 3: With the facts.

1980
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Speaker 2: You know why, because I've been in this business for

1981
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Speaker 2: over twenty five years.

1982
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Speaker 1: It's also unfair fight like he's twenty one.

1983
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Speaker 3: He never even watched Jordan play, That's true.

1984
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Speaker 4: He never even watched it. Like you watch both of

1985
01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:11,760
Speaker 4: them play. He didn't watch.

1986
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Speaker 2: He doesn't even watch whole basketball games. Right, these kids

1987
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:19,000
Speaker 2: are learning more about the NBA from two K. No,

1988
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Speaker 2: it's been actually basketball.

1989
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Speaker 1: And TikTok two K and tiktokh. Yeah, he was that's

1990
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Speaker 1: a good word, even if it wasn't a word, all right,

1991
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Speaker 1: with a from Slama Mark Willard coming up next, I

1992
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Speaker 1: have a quote for you that you're going to love,

1993
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Speaker 1: and it is about the WNBA, and I think that

1994
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Speaker 1: it is the thing. It is the thing about the

1995
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Speaker 1: rise of this league, where it's going, what it needs

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Speaker 1: to do. Next, we'll have that coming up on Fox

1997
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. All right, these are the Fox Sports Radio

1998
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Speaker 1: studios of fun, getting back, getting back on the horse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's always you know.

2000
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Speaker 4: Let me throw this at you.

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Speaker 1: And this comes from an unnamed w NBA official. And

2002
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Speaker 1: this is not like I don't know, This is not

2003
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Speaker 1: like an expos This is not doesn't have to be

2004
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Speaker 1: a big deal. I just think it's a moment in time,

2005
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Speaker 1: and I think that the league would do very very

2006
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 1: well to shine a light on this, especially with its players.

2007
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 1: I know you you talk about this all the time,

2008
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Speaker 1: and I wonder if you've even been a part of it.

2009
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:39,840
Speaker 1: You've ever been a part of all that the symposium

2010
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 1: that they do with the rookies, and it like even

2011
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 1: as a as a vet, yes, how about as a

2012
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 1: retired player? No, okay, but but did you go through

2013
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 1: it as a rook Oh yeah? And then you you

2014
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Speaker 1: helped out as a vet? Yep, okay like that. I've

2015
01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 1: never been a professional athlete, but I feel like that's

2016
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Speaker 1: a thing like that. Life is something that I don't

2017
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Speaker 1: take lightly. And I give players a lot of space

2018
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Speaker 1: with the idea, a lot of compassion. I know the

2019
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 1: most fans out know, Oh G, I wonder of why

2020
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Speaker 1: I could hear it a little five million millions of dollars, like,

2021
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 1: don't do that this fish bowl that money if you're

2022
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:27,320
Speaker 1: not used to it, that attention, that's challenging, I think,

2023
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Speaker 1: and I think that the WNBA across the board is

2024
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 1: going through this right now, and it's what leads to

2025
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Speaker 1: all the Caitlin Clark stuff, and it leads to a

2026
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Speaker 1: lot of these awkward interactions that we're seeing between the

2027
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Speaker 1: players and the media and the players and fans. Even

2028
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 1: here's the quote from an unnamed WNBA official quote. Most

2029
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Speaker 1: WNBA players have zero idea what real media exposure is.

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Speaker 1: They don't know what real coverage is. They've been shielded

2031
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Speaker 1: at college and then they come to the w NBA

2032
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Speaker 1: not knowing what real questions are. Frankly, our players just

2033
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 1: don't get it. How does that grab you?

2034
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Speaker 3: I'm sure there's some truth to it.

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Speaker 2: The there hasn't been a I don't care what you say,

2036
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Speaker 2: there hasn't been a spotlight on the w NBA outside

2037
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Speaker 2: of his inaugural season.

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Speaker 3: Like it has been the last year and a half period.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Ever, Right, and so yeah, how would you know how

2041
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Speaker 2: to deal and manage that? How did you there was no.

2042
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Speaker 4: I don't think you would.

2043
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't know.

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Speaker 1: I guess the point is is that I wonder if

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Speaker 1: the if most WNBA players have even so sort of

2046
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Speaker 1: acknowledged that, and so instead of pushing against it, like

2047
01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:09,960
Speaker 1: acknowledge this is different. We're in a very very different time,

2048
01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 1: We're at a different level. We probably have some things

2049
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Speaker 1: to learn here because and I think that's what this one,

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Speaker 1: this quote is specifically talking about a lot of press

2051
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Speaker 1: conferences where you see WNBA players and coaches get like offended,

2052
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:30,600
Speaker 1: like that question was out of line, and I'm like, no,

2053
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:34,320
Speaker 1: that was actually the only question to ask. That's exactly

2054
01:58:34,360 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 1: the question that needs to be asked. And it's almost

2055
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:41,200
Speaker 1: like there's this pushback. There's there they're offended that there's

2056
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Speaker 1: any probing questions. It's like, you need probing questions. Probing

2057
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Speaker 1: questions mean people want to know, people care, people care.

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Speaker 1: There were no probing questions before because let's be real,

2059
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 1: nobody cared, and now people care. I told you I

2060
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Speaker 1: took the kids to a Valkyrie's game a couple weeks ago.

2061
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Speaker 1: Is bananas.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, man, you're flying private totally. It's a bunch

2063
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Speaker 2: of stuff going on.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:12,560
Speaker 2: And and you need media training. You need to be

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01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:18,320
Speaker 2: schooled and how to deal with the media now and

2067
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 2: so and and they're gonna they're gonna get it. This

2068
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Speaker 2: is this is literally like a rebirth of the Not

2069
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:25,520
Speaker 2: no disrespect to any of the great players, a lot

2070
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:28,240
Speaker 2: of them are friends who came before. But this is

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01:59:28,280 --> 01:59:31,000
Speaker 2: a new w n b A. It's not the same

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01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 2: w n B. It's a new w n B A

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01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:36,880
Speaker 2: as it should be. It should be a new w

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Speaker 2: n B A. The price, the contracts and and the

2075
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:43,680
Speaker 2: salary should go up. They should be flying private.

2076
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, they deserve it and they will and now they

2077
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:51,839
Speaker 1: got to learn how to deal with it. Yeah, but attention,

2078
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:56,640
Speaker 1: attention is just that, it brings attention. Great stuff, my

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Speaker 1: man always, brother, you can't wait to talk to you

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Speaker 1: again next week. UH forty from Salama Mark Willard. Keep

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Speaker 1: in lock right here to the Fox Sports Radio