1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntire. 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: What is up? Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: Fire for Friday, June the sixth, And if you're watching 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: on YouTube, your boys all giddy because the Indiana Pacers delivered. 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: What the holle? What the Haliburton folks? Listen? F can 6 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: you say about Tyrese Haliburton? How good is this kid? 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Pacers down fifteen with about ten minutes left, 8 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: storm back on the road to beat o Casey mighty, okasey, 9 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: Oh dear, you know I'm giddy now listen. I will 10 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: be full complete disclosure. I did talk yesterday about the 11 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: futures bets on the Pacers, and I like those and 12 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: I think they could all hit. That would be outstanding. 13 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: But I got cold feet right before Game one, maybe 14 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: like thirty minutes before Game one. I got sucked into 15 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: this stupid narrative out there, and I put some money 16 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: on Game one Pacers. I'm sorry, thunder minus ten like 17 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: an ass, like an idiot, like a sucker. And so 18 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: then you get caught rob rooting for the OKC blowout 19 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: and they're up fifteen. I'm like, all right, this is great. 20 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: So kids, I gotta go walk the dog, you know, 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: one of those deals. And Andrew Nemhart we topped it 22 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: Miles Turner Banks in the three, and all of a sudden, 23 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: it's game on. Just this is what the Pacers do. 24 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: They did it to the Nicks, they did it to 25 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: the Calves. I really, I don't want to say I'm spechless, 26 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: because I've got a lot to say, obviously, but I 27 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: do want to start here, ladies and gentlemen. Tyrese Haliburton 28 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: did not have a good game by any stretch. He 29 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: did not attempt to free throw. He had just fourteen points, 30 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: six assists. Those are well below average. They still got 31 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: the win. So Tyree's Halliburton did not play good. The 32 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: Pacers turned the ball over twenty four times twenty fourth 33 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: They had one steal. Are you ready for this? The 34 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 2: thunder six turnovers fourteen steals. So the turnover twenty four 35 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: turnovers they had eighteen in the first half. And at 36 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: halftime you're like, all right, well, I don't know how 37 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: the Pacers are still alive in this game with all 38 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: the turnovers. They were literally fumbling the ball on the 39 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: way to the basket. Okay, see with fourteen steals fourteen. 40 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: Lou Dort was tremendous defensive and they lost. And at 41 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: that point I think you turned your attention to the 42 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: head coach, Mark Dagnall. And I know it's easy to 43 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: blame the head coach, but if you remember against Denver, 44 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: he kind of fumbled the bag down the stretch, did 45 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: some stupid fouling and ultimately like boom, they gave blew 46 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: up in his face and Denver stole it. Okay, in 47 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: this one from the jump they said, you know what 48 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: I called this yestro on the Pott said they're not 49 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: going to play hert and Steen a lot. He didn't 50 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: start start at case On Wallace. Case On Wallis is 51 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: an excellent young player. He's got huge upside. Probably feeling 52 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: himself a little bit. Oh I'm starting in the finals. Okay, Hello. 53 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: He was atrocious three for nine shooting oh for three 54 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: from deep a team worst minus thirteen. And what's weird 55 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: is when you adjust your starting lineup. And I think 56 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: Richard Jefferson said this on the air. They changed who 57 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: they are to become and match the pacers. I don't 58 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: love that out of the gate. What do they say 59 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: in boxing styles make fights. Well, you've got your style, bro, 60 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: you're my opponent. You got to adapt to me. And okay, 61 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: sees the home team heavily favored. Why are they tweaking 62 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: what they do to face the Pacers. But it got worse. 63 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: Dagnaut compounded that error by barely playing chet Holmgren in 64 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. And it's weird because I remember early 65 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: in the game it seemed like every loose ball was 66 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: going Oh Case's way. There were tip outs and they 67 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: just kept getting second chances. None of that in the 68 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: fourth quarter, folks, I looked at you know, if you 69 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: go to the ESPN box score and you hit the 70 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: play by play, they show you where all the shots 71 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: are made from and if you click on fourth quarter, 72 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: this is just staggering. The Oklahoma City Thunder did not 73 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: make a shot outside of the paint. They were zero 74 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: for five on threes. Sga missed that elbow jumper which 75 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: felt like he was automatic. All playoffs up one with 76 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: like I don't know, six seconds left. They didn't make 77 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: a shot outside the paint. They lived at the free 78 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: throw line. Meanwhile, the Indiana Pacers did what they did. 79 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: They hit one, two, three, four or five six threes. 80 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: In the fourth unbelievable performance. I mean, Rob, I don't 81 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: want to go overboard. It's one game. It's the NBA Finals. 82 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: A lot of new guys in the finals, but I 83 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: definitely did not like fewer men it's for chet Holgard. 84 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: They basically were playing j dub at the five down 85 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: the stretch. Meanwhile, Indiana went big. They had Obi top 86 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: In on the court. It looked like they removed Myles 87 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: Turner there for most of the rally at the end, 88 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: but they were playing with Obi Toppen and Pascal Siakam 89 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: as their bigs. And top En was you know, out 90 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: on the perimeter just banging threes. I mean it, let's 91 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 2: see he hit five threes five of eight. Top And 92 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: struggled out of the gate, but he was excellent off 93 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: the bench. Ben Matherin like didn't really have it at 94 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: a great block. TJ McConnell didn't really have it. It's 95 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: some scoring, but not really his night. This was an 96 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: Obie top in Halliburton with the game winner. Siakam was good. 97 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: Miles Turner put in some points obviously, Nie Smith ten 98 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,119 Speaker 2: and twelve, and Andrew nemhard cooking up SGA and listened 99 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: Man six guys in double figures, rob led by Siakam 100 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: with kind of a quiet nineteen and ten. It felt 101 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: like they owned the fourth quarter inside because okay, see 102 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: went small. 103 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we were talking about it because this 104 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: game went live as the radio show started on fox 105 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 3: Sportrait of the Ad couple weeknights, four to seven pm Pacific, 106 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: Shameless Plug, and we talked right out of the gate. 107 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 3: It's like, hey, Dagonall, benching Hardenstein for case on Wallace 108 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 3: was either going to be a brilliant move or it 109 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: was going to be a terrible move. And for forty 110 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 3: seven and a half minutes there, it looked like a 111 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: brilliant move because they were basically up, you know, anywhere 112 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: between eight to twelve points for most of that game. 113 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 3: And it wasn't until after the game that I looked 114 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 3: at the box score, because you know, as you're watching, 115 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: I'm really watching the box score. I'm watching the game 116 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: as it plays out. I'm watching the frenetic Pacers come back, 117 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: which they seem to have at least one of these 118 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: a series, right, And for all the talk about the turnovers, right, 119 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: you know, OKAC was plus eighteen and turnovers they took 120 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: three more free throws. Two numbers that one historically and 121 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: one especially recently, seemed to normally tell you who's gonna 122 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 3: win a game. We're both huge in Indiana's favor. Number One. 123 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 3: Indiana was plus seventeen in the rebound department. I know, 124 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: you know, pat Riley, he used to say back in 125 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 3: the day, no rebounds, no rings. I don't know any 126 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: team that's gonna win a NBA playoff game, which less 127 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: the finals game, when you're minus seventeen on the boards. 128 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: And here's the think that that had to do with 129 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: Les Hartenstein and check right right, absolutely, I'm gonna try 130 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: to break it down later by quarter rebounds. That's gonna 131 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: be tough to strip out, but I definitely seventeen is significant. 132 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: That's huge. And then here's the other one. This is 133 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: the new found one nowadays, in today's pace and space era, 134 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: the you know, the three ball is obviously the biggest thing. 135 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: You can almost just look at a box score and 136 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: say who made the most threes or who shot a 137 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: better percentage, and nine times out of ten the team's 138 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: gonna win. Indiana was plus twenty one from three point land. 139 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: So while they were sloppy in the first half, nineteen 140 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: first half turnovers, because of their shooting, because of the 141 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: fact that against that vaunted OKC defense, they shot forty 142 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: seven percent overall, forty six percent from deep. They were 143 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: always kind of within striking distance. When you turn the 144 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: ball over nineteen times in one half, that should have 145 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: been a twenty two to twenty four to twenty seven 146 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: point first athlete for Okay se you're at home. You're 147 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: the better team by every metric there is, and this 148 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 3: Indiana team looks like they are a deer in the headlights, 149 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: and yet you only go up nine, and that's because 150 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: Shay hit a three right at the buzzer. Like you 151 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: could feel that even if OKC won this game, it 152 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: was gonna be much closer than it probably should have 153 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: because Indiana did what Indiana does to everybody. They hang around. 154 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: They hang around. You've seen the movie Rounders. It's like 155 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: Matt damon U and John Malkovich, the guys got alligate 156 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: their blood, hang around, hang around, and next thing you know, 157 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 3: right at the end there Uh Flops is ut straight 158 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: wins the wins the pot. Right at the end there 159 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: Tyre's Halliburton in transition, no set play or anything hits 160 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 3: the game winner. 161 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 162 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 163 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 164 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: listen live. 165 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: So I just looked it up in the in the 166 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: play by play, so Cason Wallace, with three twenty four left, 167 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: replaces Chet Homegroun SGA hit two free throws to make 168 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: it one oh six ninety eight. When Chet came out, 169 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: the Pacers went on a thirteen to four run. Rob 170 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 2: I mean, you look at this at Pascal Siakam offensive 171 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: rebound and he missed one of the three throws and 172 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: made the next one. Then they come down the court, 173 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: Aaron Nesmith bangs a three pointer. Then you have Andrew 174 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: Nemhard hits a three pointer. So not only are they 175 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: getting offensive boards, but crash it, they're banging threes. And 176 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: there was a clutch rebound. Pascal Siakam caught a Nemhard 177 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: air ball and put that in to cut it to one. 178 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: And you're like, man, they're dominating inside. 179 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 3: What is going on? 180 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: And I don't know why, Dad, don't pull Chet, Like 181 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: it's not like any of the Indiana guards went off, 182 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: did they ah, I mean, Nemhard was four of eleven. 183 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: They're all like all of them made two threes. I 184 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: don't know, man, this is one of those games like 185 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: you would assume Okac bounces back, but if you look 186 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: at some of these numbers, rob, It's like, holy shit, 187 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: how the frick did the Pacers witness thing? 188 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, save for the turnovers. Just looking at 189 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: the box again, I hate the box score watch, but 190 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: we all saw the game and so it was such 191 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: a frenetic ending, which basically all these Pacers games are 192 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: that you almost have to go back and look at 193 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 3: the box score to really collect your thoughts. Indiana had 194 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: six guys score in double figures. Okay, you look at 195 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 3: Okac Shade drops thirty eight. You know he was great. 196 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 3: He also took thirty shots to get it, which I'd 197 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: prefer to see that number somewhere between, you know, twenty 198 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 3: three to twenty six. I think thirty seems like a lot, 199 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: even for him. Jay Dubb has seventeen, but he went 200 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: six of nineteen shooting. Lou Dor hits five threes, which 201 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: you absolutely cannot count on in this postseason, Like, hey, 202 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 3: he was ice cold and coming into this game one 203 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: nobody else did much of anything. And if Indiana is 204 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 3: gonna get that kind of contributions across the board from 205 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: so many different guys, I don't care how good that 206 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 3: Okac defense is. You are not gonna force enough turnover 207 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: throwt in its higher series to beat a team where 208 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 3: everybody is chipping in. Yeah, if it's just Halliburton and 209 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: Siakam or or you do what you did a Yokic, 210 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: you say, hey, we're gonna let Yokic do what he does. 211 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: We can't stop him anyway, and we're gonna shut everybody 212 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: else down. We're saying we're gonna let Halliburton do whatever 213 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: he does, and we're gonna shut everybody else down. Then 214 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 3: I think, okay, see wins in a ROMP. But because 215 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 3: they got contributions in Indiana from everybody at different times 216 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 3: throughout the game. For five minutes, it's Namhart. For three minutes, 217 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: it's Siakam Miles turning banks into three. You mentioned that, 218 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: and it's like you can't overcome all of that. 219 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw this. This number rub So the Pacers 220 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: were down nine with two fifty two left nine in 221 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: the play by play era, which dates backs to ninety seven, 222 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: teams were oh and one hundred and twenty one in 223 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: the NBA Finals, went trailing by seven or more in 224 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: the final three minutes of the fourth quarter and overtime. 225 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: Essentially that game was over with two fifty two left, 226 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 2: and okay, s he's at home and Rob I don't know, 227 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: maybe it's just my ears, but I keep hearing that 228 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: this is a historically great team. Do historically great teams 229 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: gag away leads like that at home? How about that? 230 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: If you don't love that. This was Indiana's fifth comeback 231 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: from fifteen or more in the playoffs, the most by 232 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: any team in the playoffs since ninety eight. They're the 233 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: comeback Kings. And Halliburton is just mister Clutch. So there's 234 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: this one of these like shooting clutch win probability guys 235 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: who puts out charts Tyrese Haliburton is now far and 236 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: away having the most clutch shooting postseason in NBA history. 237 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: Number two was Lebron in twenty thirteen with the Heatles 238 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: number Number number three was Lebron in twenty eighteen with 239 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: the Cavs. Then you have Robert Oory. Dating way back 240 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: to two thousand and two, you had Anthony Davis with 241 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: the Bubble Lakers. He had the big time buzzer shot. 242 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: But Halliburton is now doing this seemingly rob in like 243 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: every game, and it's I don't I don't know, what 244 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: do you do with Halliburton. He's been so good in 245 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: these players, like we saw that with Jamal Murray. Remember 246 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: just Jamal Murray against the Lakers, like he was just 247 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: hitting every clutch shot. But he's like, never made an 248 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: All Star team, He's not amazing during the regular season. 249 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, can you put Halliburton above 250 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: Jamal Murray? 251 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 3: Rob oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. 252 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: I mean Jamal Murray's an NBA champ. He obviously didn't 253 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: get finals MVP, never been an All Star, barely played 254 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: in the Olympics for Canada. But you you have Haliburton 255 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: for sure above Jamal Murray. What about John Morant of course, 256 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: Cave Cunningham, yes, Brunson, yes. So is your point guard 257 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: rankings Curry followed by Halliburton or SGA. I guess it's 258 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: Luca SGA, Steph Halliburton. 259 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 3: With Halliburton. Not not gonna say he's passing anybody yet, 260 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: but if he's going up with a bullet look by 261 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: the end of this run, whether they win the championship 262 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: or not. After last night, Halliburn is now six for 263 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: seven when taking a shot to tire take the lead 264 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: in the final ninety second to the fourth quart overtime 265 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: in these playoffs, the singles six for seven six seven 266 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: eighty six percent, the most such shots in a single 267 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: postseason since nineteen ninety seven, when they started keeping track 268 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: of this kind of stuff. I remember that Lebron run 269 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen, he had like a running bank shot, 270 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: I think to beat Toronto. I don't know if that 271 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 3: was the year he also had won against, but again 272 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: it's Washington. I'm my mind's mixed up, but I remember 273 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: Lebron hitting a series of these right. Even during that time, 274 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: I never got the sense that this is one of 275 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: the greatest playoff clutch performers I've ever seen, even at 276 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: that time, because there's something kind of fluky about a 277 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: running to your left shooting a bank shot, you know, 278 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 3: when game is like that, that just doesn't feel like 279 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: what I would consider like a planned shot. You know, 280 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: even if he did plan it, you know, if he did. 281 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: Apologies to Lebron. What Tyre's Halliburton is doing last night, 282 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: gets the ball in transition, goes exactly where he wants 283 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: to go, jab step and transition step back, jumper, bam. 284 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: The one against the Knicks that bounces straight up, there 285 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: was like, well that's luck you you remember in that 286 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: one he goes forward into the paint, he gets stopped, 287 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 3: He looks back at the clock, he dribbles directly back. 288 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: He was actually trying to shoot a game winning three. 289 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: That's why he did the choke sign. This was premeditated. 290 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: Tyre's Halliburton, And if he continued, he did not say 291 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: another he can go oh for for the rest of 292 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 3: the series on these kind of shots and they lose 293 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: in five games. But the kind of run he's having 294 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: in these playoffs, coupled with the two all nbas he's 295 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: already have, coupled with the the you know, doing the 296 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: choke sign against the Knicks, doing the big balls dance 297 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: against Cleveland, after the athletic and the player's pole calls 298 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 3: and the most overrated player, We're gonna have to have 299 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: some very uncomfortable conversations about how many guys Halliburn has 300 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 3: surpassed just in this playoff runt alone. 301 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: Uh, well, you have a miss sports. I would need 302 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 2: to look at all the point guards. I mean, I 303 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 2: guess he just laughed, Trey Young right, like it's not 304 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: even yes. 305 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: And it's also because the way he plays. He doesn't 306 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: dominate the ball like a lot of these guys, so 307 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: his numbers are never going to be you know, twenty 308 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 3: eight and thirteen, like that's not the way he plays. Yeah, 309 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 3: I mean we talk about last year he had a 310 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: used to rate of twenty two against the Knicks. You 311 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: know how many guys in the NBA have usually rad 312 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 3: in the twenties, like Tyre's Halliburn is the real deal 313 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: and him becoming the single most clutch player in NBA history, 314 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 3: like right before eyes is incredible. 315 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 2: This is probably the biggest Game one shocker since. Do 316 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: you remember when Boston went into Golden State in twenty 317 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: two and got the Game one? When I was watching 318 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: with a bunch of buddies, and I'll be honest, I 319 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: was stunned. I thought that was a Warrior series and 320 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, they bounced back and 321 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 2: they were down to one and then Curry goes off 322 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: for forty three. But to me, this is this is 323 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 2: channeling like Allen Iverson against the Lakers? Do you remember that? 324 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 325 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: Game one? Now, I was in I'm pretty sure the 326 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: Bahamas with my family and you know, it's Lakers six ers. 327 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: I had to watch it. So I get to some 328 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: TV and everybody's like, oh my gosh, what is happen? 329 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: Because the Lakers were heavily favored, you know, and it 330 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: was like Iverson, Matumbo, Aaron McKee, I mean, come on, 331 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: it was the Lakers should have rolled, and they ended 332 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: up doing that. But Game one was such a shocker. 333 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: Is this gonna be that rob where the Pacers get 334 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: one and then okayse he wakes up and Dagnault's like, okay, 335 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 2: no more this Chet nonsense. By the way, Thunder were 336 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: outscored by nine when both Chet and Hartensteam were off 337 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: the floor in the fourth, Like that's just that's a mistake. 338 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 339 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 340 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 341 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: listen live. 342 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: Now here's the other counter. If you're okay, see who 343 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 2: do you pull off? Because they were playing Jdubbin Sga 344 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: Dort who has playing had an amazing game Wallace and Caruso. 345 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: Caruso was excellent. So like, if you do go chit, 346 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: who are you pulling? I guess you have to pull Wallace, 347 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: who did not play great, but he has thought of 348 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: as that guy's going to be a major superstar, right. 349 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: I mean, if Dort's not hitting his threes, I guess 350 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: it makes it easy to pull him. They love Caruso 351 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: and I mean he had three steals, two blocks. You 352 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: know this, Caruso's freaking everywhere, and you're not pulling jub 353 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: Or Sga. So is it almost an embarrassment of Riches? 354 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: Because I saw Wiggins, who they like a lot. You 355 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: played nine minutes Isaiah Joe Bareley played like I don't 356 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 2: want to say. Do they have too many guys? That 357 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: sounds goofy, but I don't know, Rob, Like, what do 358 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 2: you do? 359 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 3: No, you're right, they have too many guys And this 360 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: is not It sounds counterintuitive, but this is something that 361 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: plenty of former NBA players and coaches you and I 362 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 3: both know I've talked to, have said about this team, 363 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 3: not so much during this playoff run, but during the 364 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: regular season. And it's like they need to flip two 365 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 3: or three of these guys for one marquee fifth player, right, 366 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 3: Like can they turn well, So I'm gonna say Keseon 367 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: Wallace and Kendrick Williams into Cam Johnson or something like that. 368 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 3: Like that was talked about by a lot of people 369 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: throughout the season. It's like, or even going back to 370 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: last season when they got bounced out in the second round, 371 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 3: it's like when you get to the finals or even 372 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: in the playoffs and it's crutch time. Most teams know 373 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 3: who their five are at any given time. Like it's like, hey, 374 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 3: whether we started this with group or not, we know 375 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 3: that when we're playing against this kind of team we 376 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 3: have to score. This is our five. Playing a team 377 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 3: where we have to defend strong and just kind of 378 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 3: hold the lead, this is our five. What OKC has 379 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 3: with their problem, or at least last night was is 380 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 3: they had no idea who their five was. Yeah, and 381 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: even more importantly they I don't think they knew who 382 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: their number two was because they rolled with Jadubb because 383 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: he's Jada. He's an All NBA player and they view 384 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 3: him as your second best player. But based on the 385 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 3: way he played in the game, you cannot tell me, 386 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 3: he deserved to be in the closing lineup. 387 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. I don't know if it 388 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: was our guest yesterday or somebody on on uh might 389 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: have been Jovann Boja when he came on the herd, 390 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 2: but it was somebody was saying the idea, oh, well, 391 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 2: they can just max out Sga obviously, but then they 392 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: can get Chet and Jadub maxed out as well, and 393 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: they still have two years before those new deals kick 394 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 2: in or something along those lines, right, And in my head, 395 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, Ja Dubb's a freaking max player. Really, honestly, 396 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking. 397 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: Rob. 398 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: He is so inconsistent in these playoffs. He goes from 399 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: looking at like he really struggled at times against the 400 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: Nuggets and then had like a good end to the series, 401 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: and then against the Timberwolves. It's like, is he there? 402 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: Is he not? 403 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: I don't see I know it's you guys think I'm negative. 404 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 2: I just don't see him as a star, do you. 405 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: I mean, Okay, Seacam is the clear two on the 406 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: Pacers right to Halliburton. I think Siakam undeniably is bad. 407 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: I would much rather have him than j Dubb. I 408 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 2: don't even think it's close. Now here's the thing. Would 409 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 2: you rather have him over Chet? 410 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 3: Like now we're moving forward? 411 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: Well that's but yeah, but like next five years obviously Chet, 412 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: So it is I mean so rob oh gosh, I 413 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 2: don't want to do this yet. But if OKAC loses 414 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: a series, our guest yesterday Abbott was like, joanness makes 415 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: the most sense in Oka. See, they have the assets. 416 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: I mean, the best case scenario for the NBA is 417 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: Pacers win this in seven right long series and okay, 418 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: Se decides f this, we got to make a move 419 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 2: and they go for KD which would make me look 420 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: so good because I called that month ago or Yannis 421 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 2: and I mean, I don't know, do you or they 422 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: could just say no, we're running it back. We've got 423 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 2: the picks. But again, you watch a game like that 424 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: and I know, bounce back. I'm sure j Doub will 425 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: have thirty two in the next game. It's something about 426 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 2: me just says like j Doub is like a three. 427 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, and I know it's all It's not a 428 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 2: one game overreaction. Maybe he's going to grow into it, 429 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: but ta you know. The big Calves guy was like, man, 430 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: the Calves passed on J Dubb. Imagine if they had 431 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 2: got him. I think they got like Isaaca Korro or 432 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: something just non factor like Jdubb could have been like 433 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: a major factor for the Calves. He could have been 434 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: and he is a factor. I think he made all NBA, right, yeah, 435 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: all NBA thirteen. I just I don't bro I don't 436 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: see it with him. Maybe it's it's my dislike for 437 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: Okase for whatever reason, Like you could throw number three 438 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: guys at me. How's this one? This is okay? Jalen 439 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: Johnson of the Hawks, who's hurt hurt this pat year, 440 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: but he's really freaking good? 441 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 3: Or JDub I love me some Jalen Johnson. 442 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, what about the good Wagner brother. I think, Oh, 443 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 2: Franz Bronz is a little bit better Fronz or or JDub. 444 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 3: I actually like Jdubb. Oh I'm not a Fronz guy. 445 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 3: That's well okay, So let's yeah for all the listeners 446 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: who are like, hey, get back the finally back to 447 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: the finals, right, we're getting into weez here. If we're 448 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: comparing the number twos, right, Pascal and Jadubb in these playoffs, 449 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 3: Pascal twenty one, six and five on fifty three forty 450 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 3: six splits. 451 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: Wait, I say night, oh wait averages? Okay, yeah, I 452 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: was talking about games. 453 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: Jay dub twenty six and five on forty five thirty 454 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 3: two splits. So he would say, hey, the numbers are comparable, 455 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 3: like you, why are you guys? You know it was 456 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 3: the kid say glazing, Why are you glazing? Pascal Siaka 457 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: and you're dumping on jdubble that's not fair. And the 458 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 3: counting stat like the averages look fine, there's nothing do 459 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 3: you if you have it in front of you, tell 460 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 3: me the minutes, the minutes. So Siakam averages about thirty 461 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: four minutes and Jay dub averages. I think it's right 462 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: around the same moment. 463 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: I had to go to Bay Jersey because I just 464 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 2: assume Ja Dub played a little bit less because they 465 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: blow everybody out to it was an insane. 466 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 3: Seat thirty four, both thirty four. But here's what I'm 467 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: trying to get with Jaylen Williams in these postseason all right, again, 468 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 3: he's averaging throughout twenty six and five, and you would 469 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: love that. Here's the problem, though, he is just as 470 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 3: likely to have games like he has Memphis ten for sixteen, 471 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 3: ten for nineteen, ten for twenty one, Right, follows that 472 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 3: up against Denver five for twenty, two for thirteen, five 473 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 3: for fourteen, three for sixteen Minnesota he goes twelve for 474 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: twenty in Game two, falls it up with three for 475 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: nine in Game three. Right, So it's the inconsistency, and 476 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: that's the thing that you gotta be worried. I'm not 477 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: saying that A're gonna lose this series. I'm not even 478 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: saying that I'm gonna get off the Jadub train altogether. 479 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 3: But you would like to have going into a game, 480 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 3: especially at game two, where you got to have this 481 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 3: one at home, that you know, even if it is 482 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 3: he gets the same numbers, he's always get twenty six 483 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 3: and five, that you know it's gonna be done efficiently. 484 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 3: He's gonna not gonna turn the ball over. He's not 485 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 3: gonna have all these issues. And I can't I can't 486 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: say that for sure. How about to say he's gonna 487 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 3: go into a game and have a good game in 488 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 3: Game two? 489 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 2: Jdubb against Denver shot twenty three percent from deep. Against 490 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: Minnesota he shot forty six percent exactly, Like, can I 491 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: need my number two to be a Siakam. I mean, listen, 492 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 2: carl Antony Towns at least is reliable on the offensive end. 493 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: This is gonna be a problem. And it's seems like 494 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: the strategy and again it's one game is hey, we 495 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: would love to let Chet eat and not let anyone 496 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: else go off. Now Dort did get a bunch of 497 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: open three. Let them Shaye eat, Sorry, let Shae eat, 498 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 2: and we'll let everyone else not eat. And we're just 499 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: gonna let Shaye get thirty shots. I mean, listen, man, 500 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: thirty eight points on thirty shots is not really efficient, 501 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: is it? 502 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 3: Nine Today's NBA? 503 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: Now, No, especially with the three ball. Then Shaye even 504 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 2: hit three or six from deep. But I wonder if 505 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: we will see this again where the pacers say, we'll 506 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: give you Shay, Shaye, you can have it. You can 507 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: have your MIDI get to your spots. We're just not 508 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: gonna let all these other guys bang wide open three, 509 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: Chet home grin one three point attempt. My guest, without 510 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: looking Rob, is that the fewest he's taken in a 511 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: game in this postseason. 512 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: Three? 513 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 2: I mean that's like, okay, so he four four? Yeah, 514 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: well you want one for when they beat Minnesota buy 515 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: a million in Game one he only took one, but 516 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 2: most of the other games, Yeah, every other playoff game 517 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: was over one three. Like he's averaging in the postseason. 518 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: H where's the averages he's averaging. They don't show the averages. 519 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: They just show their totals. But he's probably close to 520 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 2: four threes a game. He took one and he's not 521 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: taking you off the bounce. I don't know this. Listen, 522 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle, Man, this guy's freaking good. All right, Pacers 523 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: go up one nothing. Game two is Sunday. Obviously Monday 524 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: is going to be crazy. Listen. If the Pacers go 525 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 2: up to nothing, Rob, oh my gosh boy, you know 526 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 2: we needed. They did it to Cleveland and New York. 527 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: Talk to you on Monday.