WEBVTT - Karen is OUT at RHOP! 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:03.640 Welc up to Reality with the King. 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:07.760 It's me Carlos Kings, the King of Reality TV and 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.559 one of the most sought after executive producers in reality 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:16.040 television with over ten years a production experience. Twice a 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.720 week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:23.160 my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:27.160 shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:29.680 and tweeting about. 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:37.440 Watched Hey rain Job. 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:40.199 On today's episode of Reality with the King, we have 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:42.720 to talk about the breaking news that happen over the weekend, 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:48.760 which is Karen Huger did not show up at the 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:53.320 Real House Watch of Potomac reunion, and she also released 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:59.200 a statement stating that she has checked herself into rehab. Additionally, 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:03.400 we're going to talk about ESS's magazine. Oh Mia, I 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:05.400 still love your girl and may be the only one, 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:08.600 but whatever I digress. Mia thor In was a topic 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:12.839 of conversation in this op ad that Essen's magazine did, 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:17.360 saying that, Honey, they're not entertained by me. However, I 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.920 have some thoughts and so does my guest. Welcome back 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:24.279 the amazing DJ Richie Scot. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:30.560 What's going on sky Squad, rain Drops, what's going on? 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:32.039 I love the collaboration. 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:35.640 We do two. We do two. 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:37.959 Welcome back to reality for the King and Honey, let's 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:43.840 just dive right into it, Richie. So Karen Huger did 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:48.600 not show up for the Real Housewives of Potomac reunion. 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.200 And not only did she not show up, Honey, she 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:55.400 has checked herself it to rehab. So what I would 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:59.240 like to do for you and the rain Drops is 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:03.000 to read this that Karen Huger made. Well, the thing 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:07.640 was this her manager, I think, made the statement about 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:11.680 how she has checked herself into rehab, which, by the way, 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:13.960 look I think at the end of the day, that's 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:18.360 something that I'm happy she did. But this is the 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.639 statement that her team submitted. So I want to be 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:26.800 able to read it to everybody. And here we go. 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:32.480 Karen made the important decision to enter a private recovery program, 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:36.400 so was unable to attend the reunion taping today. The 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:41.040 statement read she was fully supported in this choice. We 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:46.000 stand behind Karen as she embarks on this meaningful journey 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:51.400 and are proud of her for taking such a significant 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:57.080 step forward and her personal growth. Richie, what do you 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:00.720 have to say about this because I read the statement 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.800 and I again, I'm happy she decided to take the steps. 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:08.200 A lot of people think it's too little, too late. 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:14.160 Considering on this current season of Potomac, Karen kept saying, 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.360 watch the footage, you have to see what happened, stay tuned, 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.639 pretty much declaring her innocence when she was found guilty 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:28.880 facing up to two years in jail. Is Karen doing 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:32.440 this so that the judge can see she is at 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:36.920 least accepting some form of responsibility and that her sentencing 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:37.720 can be lowered. 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:42.800 She should be. I mean, if you think, okay, let's 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.680 go back, let's let's let's take it all the way back. 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.040 You know, when we saw Karen on this season, it 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:53.840 was very much giving. I will be vindicated. You know, 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:58.040 I'm not speaking about this, you know, and to a 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:02.560 certain degree I could understand why, right because and not 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:06.800 to I draw this comparison, but like, we have three 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:10.000 instances of something like this happening on a show this year. 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.040 We have Shannon Badore, we have Maurice from Love and 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:17.080 Marrick Huntsville, and we have Karen. Right, everybody handled their 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:21.680 situations very very differently. So what I saw with Maurice, 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.159 what I suspected was given his you know, I mean, 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.400 he's in the field, he's in the law field, so 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:33.640 obviously he's gonna know. I can't really respond too much 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.479 because maybe I'm trying to do something so that this 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:42.080 is either dismissed, it goes away, plea whatever. So I 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:46.400 thought to myself, that's probably what they're advising Karen to do. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:51.080 Maintain your innocence, you know, speak very little about it. 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.880 And then as we continue this season and as she 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.440 it really felt like and I love Karen, I really 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:03.200 really do, but it reallyind of felt like, ah, just wait, 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.400 I am levitating above you all. I will be vindicated 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:11.160 with Like it was almost like she she considered herself 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.359 like a goddess at some point. And then when we 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.719 saw the footage, I'm like, girl, did you see the footage? 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:23.040 Did you could not have seen this footage? Did yo? 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:27.159 Did anybody show her that before she went into the season. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.560 So when you think about all of that, and then 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:36.920 you process the fact that they casually dropped that reunion poster, 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.640 you know, they slid that out there yesterday afternoon in 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:45.080 the evening time. You know, after all the headlines have broke, 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.640 and with more information to follow, I was like, hmm, 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.560 this is real interesting. So when I saw that statement, 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.560 I also noticed that they did not say rehab. They 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.120 used recoveries. You know what I'm saying. It was hmm 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:03.880 a play word. Yeah, it's the presentation. So even if 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.120 she comes like I would have, I would imagine that 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.600 she's coming back to the show, right I would. I 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.440 would imagine, Yeah, I would imagine that show without her, right, 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:16.600 So I can imagine even her phrasing of her experience 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:22.920 won't be one of rehab but recovery. And I think 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.320 that's gonna make a big difference because words make a 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:26.200 difference to Karen. 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:30.080 If you notice, it does it does? It does? 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.000 And I think that's the reason why she told me Richie. 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:35.800 I ran into her a few weeks ago and I said, 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.520 come to my podcast. She said, I will never go 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.160 on your podcast. 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:42.800 But I love you though, I said, but I love 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:43.120 you too. 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.400 It and it's fuddy because I told the rain drops 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.640 and they said, Carlos is because you asked the real 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:52.320 questions and she can't dance around it. So listen, you 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.360 love Karen. I love Karen. I prayed for Karen like 0:06:55.640 --> 0:07:01.520 I honestly prayed for her as well. But listen, it 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.640 is what it is. You are right in the sense 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.280 of there is a play on words, and this is 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.239 what I think about the situation you brought up. Maurice 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:15.480 Scott from Love and Marriage Hunts Bill my creation. He 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:21.280 was booked for Dui h. Everybody on the cast asked 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:25.360 him about it. The reunion is coming up in a 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.760 few weeks, I asked, But I say to you, I 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.640 grilled him like a panini when it came to it, 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.000 I came, if you guys to watch it. But like 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:37.960 you said, Maurice Scott is an attorney. He was valedictorian 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.200 in law school, which for a a young black man 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:45.360 from Contact, Michigan, that is a that that's a huge accomplishment. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.200 And he said in nauseum, I'm not talking about it. 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.120 Let the let the course do what to do. 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.760 And I'm happy to report that the case was dismissed. 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.080 I think everybody should join the Maurice Godschool of the 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:07.240 Fleagship because apparently, like to say, it does work, it 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:08.200 worn't it. 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.440 It's like, okay, if you're especially if you're trying to 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.720 fight the case, right, So it's it's best to say listen, 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.560 I only have I say all the time a Law 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:21.280 and Order SVU university degree in law. That is the 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:26.240 my knowledge. But even I okay, who was salutatorian of 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:27.040 my class. 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.440 I know you aren't wait high school and college or 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:32.000 one of the other. 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:34.720 I'm talking about law school. 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:36.000 That's still good. 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:40.719 I'm talking about my imaginary law lord of SVU. 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.160 Work like a child that shall. 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:50.559 But listen, No, I'm just saying that with my limited knowledge. 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.360 Even I know right, don't say anything, especially if you're 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.880 trying to fight this when you're on a reality show, 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.960 because everything you say and do can be used again. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.160 It can, And I think that's the reason why Maurice 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:04.319 Scott did not say anything. 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:04.839 If you talk. 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.240 If we look at Shannavador from the Real House of Wasing, 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.600 Orange County, one thing she did that I thought was 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:13.040 worked in her favor. 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.040 She I'm not gonna say she admitted to. 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:22.080 What happened, but she never once deflected from it to 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.040 the point where you got a sense she was in denial, 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:28.800 you know what I mean. I think from what I gathered, 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.360 she kind of owned up to it. She had her 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.080 reasons as to why she was in that place, but 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:35.640 she was. 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.360 She handled it honestly, very well too. 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:44.800 The thing with Karen that I think was a disadvantage 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:49.280 for her is what you said this season. She kept saying, 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.040 you will see, you will see, and it's like, girl, 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:56.040 we saw, you know, like we saw. And to answer 0:09:56.080 --> 0:10:00.720 your question, I am not sure she saw the footage 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:05.600 when the show was filming, right, the footage of her arrest, 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:10.160 because if you did, you would be like, eh, I'm 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.920 not even sure her lawyers may have seen it, because 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.200 there's an investigation and you got to get the prosecutors 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.400 to allow you to see evidences the whole thing. 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:24.880 Nonetheless, she denied the plea deal. 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.480 And according to my sources, and I don't think I 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.559 got this wrong, but I want to say allegedly, to 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:35.640 be careful, allegedly Karen was awarded the opportunity on a 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:40.760 plea deal to have six month house arrest. Now if 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.440 that is true, and according to my sources it is true, 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.839 but I'll say alleged, Allegedly she was offered six months 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:52.040 house arrest. When you're offered that, that's the time, Richie, 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.880 you see the footage of the arrest. 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.760 I am shocked that based on what we. 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:03.000 All saw that a plea deal was not accepted because 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:09.480 we all experienced COVID the pandemic. Okay, six months in 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:13.840 the house, ain't that bad. It ain't that bad. Bring 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.440 the party to you. Let's go to Instacart, door dash Uber, 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:22.160 eat honey, and bring the food the party to my house. 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:27.760 I strongly believe if Karen knew about this plea deal, 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:33.520 if she knew, if she decided to not pursue the 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:39.559 plea deal, I strongly believe she did not do it 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:44.240 because she did not want to admit guilt in front 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:48.680 of her castmates. And that's that's that makes me sad 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:55.840 that anybody's real life could be heavily impacted because you 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.160 don't want to deal with your reality on a reality show. 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:05.920 Well, Carlos, I was actually gonna say also to her defense, 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:11.000 and it's I'm not defending what she did. I'm just 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:16.160 trying to understand her strategy, right, or maybe her mindset 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:20.480 as she's navigating this, because Karen is typically the target 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:25.560 on that show, so I can only imagine that every 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:31.080 season you're going into it on defense, and to a 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:36.000 large degree, the show has worked because of Karen being 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:42.320 the target. So I can only imagine her thinking about 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.680 the embarrassment of what that would feel like to know 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.880 that they they now have a house arrest against her, 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:58.120 right when maybe what if this whole recovery center situation 0:12:58.600 --> 0:12:59.959 was the plan all along? 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:02.680 Yeah? 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:06.719 But this okay, Yes, the issue I have with that 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:12.600 is the fact that you can't play with the terms 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:17.960 of your sentencing because and again I'm saying alleged, because 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:23.400 I just have to allegedly she has more than. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.679 Two DUIs, right, well. 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.840 Yeah, I mean we heard Robin say on the Reasonably 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:33.240 Shady podcast that there were four, so I and again 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:37.760 I will saying allegedly as well, because I'm like that 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.120 that blew my mind when i heard four, I'm thinking 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:43.080 to myself, wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.360 This has never really been brought up on the show 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.440 before in this way. So the fact that they that 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:53.120 they kept this, they nobody mentioned it like at all 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.439 on the show. We know that Karen has stated before 0:13:55.440 --> 0:14:00.679 that she had had a DUI or something similar to that, right, yeah, 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.440 but when you add two, three and four, this that's 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:05.160 another story. 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.199 It is it is, it is. 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:11.280 And listen, you mentioned how Karen is always the target 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:15.360 and listen, she is for sure, and so much Gazelle's fashions, 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:20.320 you know what I mean. So you know, but you did, 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:26.520 but you don't see Gizelle trying to do a. 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.479 Deal with she by Cherie to get free close child. 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.400 So it's one of those things where you kind of 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:35.320 accept your faith, like I love Gazelle's fashions, Zille's beautiful 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.680 woman inside out. And at the end of the day, Karen, 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.000 when you are the star of the show and the 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:43.840 force multiplier like Gizelle is, it is what it is. 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:49.040 But what is interesting is the fact that these ladies 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:54.840 knew this information and they did not reveal it. I 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.360 think we all have to look at the collective of 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.480 the Potomac Girls and say, as much shade and a 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:06.520 hard time they have given to Karen, there is this 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:11.400 weird sense of protection that they did. Because I was 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:16.280 told by very reliable sources associated with the cast. 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.360 Okay, I want to make that very clear the cast. 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:25.400 Okay, I was told that Richie months ago, months ago. 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:32.240 And I'm not here to gossip about someone's unfortunate situation. 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:34.840 One thing about me and my professionalism. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.040 If it's on the show, I'm gonna talk about a child, 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:38.760 you know what I mean, Like, if it's a storyline, gonna. 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:39.040 Talk about it. 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:49.280 I was told that as well, Richie, months ago. And 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.120 to hear that Robin Dixon did say it on her 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:58.480 reasonably shady podcast. Robin that was very shady, not reasonable, 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:04.440 But you're supposed to be reasonable of Robin. And Giselle 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.680 is shady. But again, give Gisell her props. Giselle's a 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.160 shady one. Admittedly, that's that's what she said, and she 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:15.040 didn't reveal it. And I think that's the reason why Richie, 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.400 I'm shocked if that is true. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.720 If that is true that she has four. 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:29.920 I'm struggling as to why amplete Richie six months house 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:31.720 arrests with a tenth on your ankle, I would have 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:32.400 dazzled it. 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.480 I would have called Wayne. 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.760 I would have called thereat and said, you know, all 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:42.040 of your fabrics from Beverly Beach by Derey that is 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.040 now defunct, do you have any fabrics derea that I 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:46.760 can add onto my tether? 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:48.960 Do you have it? Do you know what I mean? 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:52.480 I would have said, Gizelle, you know how to build houses, 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.200 that's very you know, creative. How about you come and 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.800 give me a room. I would have made let me 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:03.720 through something. Karen has a fan base. I imagine the 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:10.720 scene rain drops, Karen luxuriating in her room with waiters 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.560 and waitresses, do you know what I mean? Like, I would 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:17.320 have made it so grand that when you see Kathy 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:21.040 Hilton sipping a straw getting her face done, I would 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.800 have done that only to show Karen getting dressed up 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:24.880 to go into the basement. 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:29.080 Like. I would have made it a thing. And it 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:30.280 makes me sad that. 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:38.159 There isn't somebody that Karen could listen to say we 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:42.520 care more about your real life fate than what these 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.160 girls are the addists is gonna think. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:49.000 But then wouldn't that be the attorney's job. I mean 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:53.159 to a degree, right, they can only advise, I'm certain, 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:57.960 but yeah, I feel like that's where the attorney comes 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:00.800 in and says, listen, girl, no, this is this is serious. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.200 At this point, we need to we need to strategize 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:09.239 now early and have our messaging like the difference. Like 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.199 you said, there was something different about Shannon. This was 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.720 a build up for us with Shannon visually on the show. Right, 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.760 you could see that this was going to at some 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.960 point become a thing for Shannon, and it was going 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:23.800 to blow at some point. It was just a matter 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:28.280 of time, unfortunately. And what Shannon did on the show 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.720 I felt like was she there was a bit of 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:33.959 there was there was a lot of contrition, you know. 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:40.359 She she seemed just distraught by it, right. So I 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:44.960 think with Karen having to put up that defense because 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.800 she knows that this is going to be the topic 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:52.120 of conversation, that to me is the sad part, because 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:57.320 now you can't even process your actual feelings with the 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:01.720 with with the audience because you're so fearful of what 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:06.960 your castmates may say or do with this information, or 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:10.919 if you give anything, they may use it against you. 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:14.479 That that is her fear. That's sad, No, and that 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:17.080 is sad. Child. 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:31.639 We are just getting started. This is reality with the 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:35.520 King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:41.640 So Karen missed the reunion. She did check herself into 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.280 some sort of recovery. You know, we are saying rehab. 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:48.240 You know, possibly that's a child. I don't know what 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.600 the other recovery it is, honey, but that's that, you know, 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:58.560 it is semantics. She Karen has a large following of 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:03.440 fans who love her regardless of what she does. Right, Okay, yeah, 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:08.600 Richie said the child you so you are a laddam. 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:13.480 I am a ladam. Listen I interview her one time. 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:19.080 I think you ship. I can't get ship from Karen, but. 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:21.359 I couldn't get it no more. 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.200 Karen. Give me the exit interview child. Goodness. 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.159 Wait, give it the anti first, Hudy. I'll take the second. 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:36.040 Child Lord, Listen. 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:40.240 Here's the thing with Housewives. I mean, listen, Look, they 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:44.480 waited for Teresa, right, I mean it's it's this is 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:47.439 not something she can't bounce back from the star or 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:52.119 the lead of a show that usually becomes or or 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:57.320 reaches that legendary status in reality TV land because they 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:02.680 can take the hits from every direction and they can 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:07.520 keep it pushing and if and to me, that is Karen. 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:10.960 She fits in there with the Kniannies and the Teresa's. 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:12.520 At this point in. 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:14.679 My mind agreed she was. 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:16.080 No. 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:17.800 I agree with that question for you. 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:21.720 There are people who Villa Domes who are like, Karen, 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:26.040 we love you, babe, you know, just we're praying for you. 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:29.639 There are some people who are disappointed after watching the footage, 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:31.280 but at the end of the day, there's a lot 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.439 of people who are like, we love you despite of 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:34.119 what we saw. 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:36.760 The question for you, let's have a real conversation. 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:47.719 Okay, if that was Giselle Bryant in that video, do 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:50.280 you think the response from the audience would be vastly different? 0:21:56.280 --> 0:22:03.720 Well, just picture. The problem is I can't pictures. Here's 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:08.120 the thing. The absurdity of this is that I can 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:16.040 see this happening to Karen. And it's not because I don't. 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:19.760 Karen's not a She's not a sloppy woman. Don't get 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:23.560 me wrong. Karen is a She's Karen is pulled together, 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:27.639 you know what I'm saying. She is pois, she's beautiful. 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:32.360 But you there, yo, you can't tell me this in 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:36.080 some small way that when you saw that video that 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:42.520 some part of you was like, oh yeah, okay, I 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:44.440 can see I can see my girl having that kind 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:47.760 of a day. I cannot picture Gazelle in this state. 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:51.440 I just can't. And I think that's the difference. So 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:55.920 it would the response be different. It would be drastically different, 0:22:56.240 --> 0:23:00.960 I think because we tend to view as a very 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:07.760 controlled person and I for you know, for whether you 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:10.560 like her or not, That's the thing that I think 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:14.600 I respect about her the most after all of these years, 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:19.440 is that she is so controlled. She doesn't explode on 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:22.800 social media. You won't get a response from her. If 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:26.080 you are coming for her on social media, she will 0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:33.840 get you in another way. Yeah, And that's just the truth, 0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:37.040 I mean, And and it works for her. You know. 0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:39.439 I feel like it's a virgo thing, but I'm not. 0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:40.560 I can't be sure. 0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:43.600 Yeah, Now, they said Gazelle is very much control. 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:46.560 She's very much poised in a very different way than Karen, 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.200 like j Jail's poisonous. 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:51.400 That's a word, is a lot. 0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:53.000 I mean, it has a lot to do with the 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:59.360 fact that Gizelle is that I was gonna says it's. 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:00.879 Her background, being the first lady. 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:06.960 Giselle is a Gizelle is a strikingly beautiful woman, right, 0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:10.920 And I'm going someplace with these guys and Giselle from 0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:13.720 the pictures I've seen, baby gazill has been beautiful her 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:19.639 entire life, which means Giselle has always been conscious of 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.480 that people are watching her and they're looking at her. 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:27.119 And I think Gizelle since birth has always been aware 0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.320 that she's the center of attention. And when you are 0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:32.760 the center of attention, you know that one move you 0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:34.679 make is going to be talked about. She was the 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:38.879 first lady to Jamal Bryant, the first lady in a 0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:44.399 black church is the grandam of the church and the community. 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:47.439 And you are very poised. You sit there on the 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:49.880 on the front road of the pool pit, honey, and 0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:53.960 you watch your man past her to the congregation, and 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:55.760 you sit there with a Lais cross and a pearl 0:24:55.800 --> 0:25:01.080 cloth over your crotch, honey, and you you make sure 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:01.920 that you know. 0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:04.520 You gather of the girls. You know you gap, you 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:06.840 gathered the US shirt, you gap of the girls. 0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:10.399 And you the first thing of the church is really. 0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:13.760 Like the first lady of the United States. Okay, so I. 0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:22.080 Mean slightly, and there's a slight. I'm looking down upon you. 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:26.400 You got it. You gotta admit that. I mean, let's 0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:27.400 have a conversation. 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:34.920 Look, yeah, we've seen Jazelle Kobe Bryant, look Donald, some 0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:36.440 people are her own show. 0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:44.400 So I can an that's my love. 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:46.520 I don't care what anybody says. I love Jazelle, but 0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:51.040 I also love Karen and Karen. Look, we are all 0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:53.439 praying for you. Rich and I are huge fans of 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:56.040 you r. We are part of the ladam Klik. Richie 0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:58.520 was blessed to get an interview with you. I am 0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:02.080 waiting with beata breath for that to ever be an accomplishment. 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:04.400