1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Welc up to Reality with the King. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: It's me Carlos Kings, the King of Reality TV and 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience. Twice a 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: and tweeting about. 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: Watched Hey rain Job. 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: On today's episode of Reality with the King, we have 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: to talk about the breaking news that happen over the weekend, 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: which is Karen Huger did not show up at the 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: Real House Watch of Potomac reunion, and she also released 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: a statement stating that she has checked herself into rehab. Additionally, 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about ESS's magazine. Oh Mia, I 16 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: still love your girl and may be the only one, 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: but whatever I digress. Mia thor In was a topic 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 2: of conversation in this op ad that Essen's magazine did, 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: saying that, Honey, they're not entertained by me. However, I 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: have some thoughts and so does my guest. Welcome back 21 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,279 Speaker 2: the amazing DJ Richie Scot. 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: What's going on sky Squad, rain Drops, what's going on? 23 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 3: I love the collaboration. 24 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: We do two. We do two. 25 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: Welcome back to reality for the King and Honey, let's 26 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: just dive right into it, Richie. So Karen Huger did 27 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: not show up for the Real Housewives of Potomac reunion. 28 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: And not only did she not show up, Honey, she 29 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: has checked herself it to rehab. So what I would 30 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: like to do for you and the rain Drops is 31 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: to read this that Karen Huger made. Well, the thing 32 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: was this her manager, I think, made the statement about 33 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: how she has checked herself into rehab, which, by the way, 34 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: look I think at the end of the day, that's 35 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: something that I'm happy she did. But this is the 36 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: statement that her team submitted. So I want to be 37 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: able to read it to everybody. And here we go. 38 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: Karen made the important decision to enter a private recovery program, 39 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: so was unable to attend the reunion taping today. The 40 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: statement read she was fully supported in this choice. We 41 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: stand behind Karen as she embarks on this meaningful journey 42 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: and are proud of her for taking such a significant 43 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: step forward and her personal growth. Richie, what do you 44 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: have to say about this because I read the statement 45 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: and I again, I'm happy she decided to take the steps. 46 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: A lot of people think it's too little, too late. 47 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: Considering on this current season of Potomac, Karen kept saying, 48 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: watch the footage, you have to see what happened, stay tuned, 49 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: pretty much declaring her innocence when she was found guilty 50 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: facing up to two years in jail. Is Karen doing 51 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: this so that the judge can see she is at 52 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: least accepting some form of responsibility and that her sentencing 53 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: can be lowered. 54 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: She should be. I mean, if you think, okay, let's 55 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: go back, let's let's let's take it all the way back. 56 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: You know, when we saw Karen on this season, it 57 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: was very much giving. I will be vindicated. You know, 58 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: I'm not speaking about this, you know, and to a 59 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: certain degree I could understand why, right because and not 60 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: to I draw this comparison, but like, we have three 61 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: instances of something like this happening on a show this year. 62 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: We have Shannon Badore, we have Maurice from Love and 63 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: Marrick Huntsville, and we have Karen. Right, everybody handled their 64 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: situations very very differently. So what I saw with Maurice, 65 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 3: what I suspected was given his you know, I mean, 66 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: he's in the field, he's in the law field, so 67 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: obviously he's gonna know. I can't really respond too much 68 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 3: because maybe I'm trying to do something so that this 69 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: is either dismissed, it goes away, plea whatever. So I 70 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: thought to myself, that's probably what they're advising Karen to do. 71 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: Maintain your innocence, you know, speak very little about it. 72 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: And then as we continue this season and as she 73 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: it really felt like and I love Karen, I really 74 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: really do, but it reallyind of felt like, ah, just wait, 75 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: I am levitating above you all. I will be vindicated 76 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: with Like it was almost like she she considered herself 77 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 3: like a goddess at some point. And then when we 78 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: saw the footage, I'm like, girl, did you see the footage? 79 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 3: Did you could not have seen this footage? Did yo? 80 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: Did anybody show her that before she went into the season. 81 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 3: So when you think about all of that, and then 82 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 3: you process the fact that they casually dropped that reunion poster, 83 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: you know, they slid that out there yesterday afternoon in 84 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: the evening time. You know, after all the headlines have broke, 85 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: and with more information to follow, I was like, hmm, 86 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: this is real interesting. So when I saw that statement, 87 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: I also noticed that they did not say rehab. They 88 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: used recoveries. You know what I'm saying. It was hmm 89 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: a play word. Yeah, it's the presentation. So even if 90 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: she comes like I would have, I would imagine that 91 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 3: she's coming back to the show, right I would. I 92 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: would imagine, Yeah, I would imagine that show without her, right, 93 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 3: So I can imagine even her phrasing of her experience 94 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 3: won't be one of rehab but recovery. And I think 95 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: that's gonna make a big difference because words make a 96 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: difference to Karen. 97 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: If you notice, it does it does? It does? 98 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: And I think that's the reason why she told me Richie. 99 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: I ran into her a few weeks ago and I said, 100 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: come to my podcast. She said, I will never go 101 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: on your podcast. 102 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: But I love you though, I said, but I love 103 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: you too. 104 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: It and it's fuddy because I told the rain drops 105 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: and they said, Carlos is because you asked the real 106 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: questions and she can't dance around it. So listen, you 107 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: love Karen. I love Karen. I prayed for Karen like 108 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: I honestly prayed for her as well. But listen, it 109 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: is what it is. You are right in the sense 110 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: of there is a play on words, and this is 111 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 2: what I think about the situation you brought up. Maurice 112 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: Scott from Love and Marriage Hunts Bill my creation. He 113 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: was booked for Dui h. Everybody on the cast asked 114 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: him about it. The reunion is coming up in a 115 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: few weeks, I asked, But I say to you, I 116 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: grilled him like a panini when it came to it, 117 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: I came, if you guys to watch it. But like 118 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: you said, Maurice Scott is an attorney. He was valedictorian 119 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: in law school, which for a a young black man 120 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: from Contact, Michigan, that is a that that's a huge accomplishment. 121 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: And he said in nauseum, I'm not talking about it. 122 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: Let the let the course do what to do. 123 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: And I'm happy to report that the case was dismissed. 124 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: I think everybody should join the Maurice Godschool of the 125 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: Fleagship because apparently, like to say, it does work, it 126 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: worn't it. 127 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: It's like, okay, if you're especially if you're trying to 128 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: fight the case, right, So it's it's best to say listen, 129 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: I only have I say all the time a Law 130 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: and Order SVU university degree in law. That is the 131 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: my knowledge. But even I okay, who was salutatorian of 132 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: my class. 133 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: I know you aren't wait high school and college or 134 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: one of the other. 135 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: I'm talking about law school. 136 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: That's still good. 137 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 3: I'm talking about my imaginary law lord of SVU. 138 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: Work like a child that shall. 139 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 3: But listen, No, I'm just saying that with my limited knowledge. 140 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: Even I know right, don't say anything, especially if you're 141 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: trying to fight this when you're on a reality show, 142 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: because everything you say and do can be used again. 143 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: It can, And I think that's the reason why Maurice 144 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 2: Scott did not say anything. 145 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: If you talk. 146 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: If we look at Shannavador from the Real House of Wasing, 147 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: Orange County, one thing she did that I thought was 148 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: worked in her favor. 149 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: She I'm not gonna say she admitted to. 150 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 2: What happened, but she never once deflected from it to 151 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: the point where you got a sense she was in denial, 152 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I think from what I gathered, 153 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: she kind of owned up to it. She had her 154 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: reasons as to why she was in that place, but 155 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: she was. 156 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: She handled it honestly, very well too. 157 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: The thing with Karen that I think was a disadvantage 158 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: for her is what you said this season. She kept saying, 159 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: you will see, you will see, and it's like, girl, 160 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: we saw, you know, like we saw. And to answer 161 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: your question, I am not sure she saw the footage 162 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: when the show was filming, right, the footage of her arrest, 163 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: because if you did, you would be like, eh, I'm 164 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: not even sure her lawyers may have seen it, because 165 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: there's an investigation and you got to get the prosecutors 166 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: to allow you to see evidences the whole thing. 167 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: Nonetheless, she denied the plea deal. 168 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: And according to my sources, and I don't think I 169 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 2: got this wrong, but I want to say allegedly, to 170 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: be careful, allegedly Karen was awarded the opportunity on a 171 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: plea deal to have six month house arrest. Now if 172 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: that is true, and according to my sources it is true, 173 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 2: but I'll say alleged, Allegedly she was offered six months 174 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: house arrest. When you're offered that, that's the time, Richie, 175 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: you see the footage of the arrest. 176 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: I am shocked that based on what we. 177 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: All saw that a plea deal was not accepted because 178 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: we all experienced COVID the pandemic. Okay, six months in 179 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: the house, ain't that bad. It ain't that bad. Bring 180 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: the party to you. Let's go to Instacart, door dash Uber, 181 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: eat honey, and bring the food the party to my house. 182 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: I strongly believe if Karen knew about this plea deal, 183 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: if she knew, if she decided to not pursue the 184 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 2: plea deal, I strongly believe she did not do it 185 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: because she did not want to admit guilt in front 186 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 2: of her castmates. And that's that's that makes me sad 187 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: that anybody's real life could be heavily impacted because you 188 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: don't want to deal with your reality on a reality show. 189 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: Well, Carlos, I was actually gonna say also to her defense, 190 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: and it's I'm not defending what she did. I'm just 191 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: trying to understand her strategy, right, or maybe her mindset 192 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: as she's navigating this, because Karen is typically the target 193 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 3: on that show, so I can only imagine that every 194 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: season you're going into it on defense, and to a 195 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: large degree, the show has worked because of Karen being 196 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: the target. So I can only imagine her thinking about 197 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 3: the embarrassment of what that would feel like to know 198 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: that they they now have a house arrest against her, 199 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: right when maybe what if this whole recovery center situation 200 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 3: was the plan all along? 201 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 202 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 2: But this okay, Yes, the issue I have with that 203 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: is the fact that you can't play with the terms 204 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: of your sentencing because and again I'm saying alleged, because 205 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: I just have to allegedly she has more than. 206 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: Two DUIs, right, well. 207 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we heard Robin say on the Reasonably 208 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: Shady podcast that there were four, so I and again 209 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: I will saying allegedly as well, because I'm like that 210 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: that blew my mind when i heard four, I'm thinking 211 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: to myself, wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. 212 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: This has never really been brought up on the show 213 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 3: before in this way. So the fact that they that 214 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: they kept this, they nobody mentioned it like at all 215 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 3: on the show. We know that Karen has stated before 216 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 3: that she had had a DUI or something similar to that, right, yeah, 217 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 3: but when you add two, three and four, this that's 218 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: another story. 219 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: It is it is, it is. 220 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: And listen, you mentioned how Karen is always the target 221 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: and listen, she is for sure, and so much Gazelle's fashions, 222 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So you know, but you did, 223 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: but you don't see Gizelle trying to do a. 224 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,479 Speaker 1: Deal with she by Cherie to get free close child. 225 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: So it's one of those things where you kind of 226 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: accept your faith, like I love Gazelle's fashions, Zille's beautiful 227 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: woman inside out. And at the end of the day, Karen, 228 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: when you are the star of the show and the 229 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: force multiplier like Gizelle is, it is what it is. 230 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: But what is interesting is the fact that these ladies 231 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: knew this information and they did not reveal it. I 232 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: think we all have to look at the collective of 233 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: the Potomac Girls and say, as much shade and a 234 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: hard time they have given to Karen, there is this 235 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: weird sense of protection that they did. Because I was 236 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: told by very reliable sources associated with the cast. 237 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: Okay, I want to make that very clear the cast. 238 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: Okay, I was told that Richie months ago, months ago. 239 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: And I'm not here to gossip about someone's unfortunate situation. 240 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: One thing about me and my professionalism. 241 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: If it's on the show, I'm gonna talk about a child, 242 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, if it's a storyline, gonna. 243 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: Talk about it. 244 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: I was told that as well, Richie, months ago. And 245 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: to hear that Robin Dixon did say it on her 246 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: reasonably shady podcast. Robin that was very shady, not reasonable, 247 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: But you're supposed to be reasonable of Robin. And Giselle 248 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: is shady. But again, give Gisell her props. Giselle's a 249 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: shady one. Admittedly, that's that's what she said, and she 250 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: didn't reveal it. And I think that's the reason why Richie, 251 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: I'm shocked if that is true. 252 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: If that is true that she has four. 253 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: I'm struggling as to why amplete Richie six months house 254 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: arrests with a tenth on your ankle, I would have 255 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: dazzled it. 256 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: I would have called Wayne. 257 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: I would have called thereat and said, you know, all 258 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: of your fabrics from Beverly Beach by Derey that is 259 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: now defunct, do you have any fabrics derea that I 260 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: can add onto my tether? 261 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: Do you have it? Do you know what I mean? 262 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: I would have said, Gizelle, you know how to build houses, 263 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: that's very you know, creative. How about you come and 264 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: give me a room. I would have made let me 265 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: through something. Karen has a fan base. I imagine the 266 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: scene rain drops, Karen luxuriating in her room with waiters 267 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: and waitresses, do you know what I mean? Like, I would 268 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: have made it so grand that when you see Kathy 269 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: Hilton sipping a straw getting her face done, I would 270 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: have done that only to show Karen getting dressed up 271 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 2: to go into the basement. 272 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: Like. I would have made it a thing. And it 273 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: makes me sad that. 274 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 2: There isn't somebody that Karen could listen to say we 275 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: care more about your real life fate than what these 276 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: girls are the addists is gonna think. 277 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: But then wouldn't that be the attorney's job. I mean 278 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 3: to a degree, right, they can only advise, I'm certain, 279 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: but yeah, I feel like that's where the attorney comes 280 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: in and says, listen, girl, no, this is this is serious. 281 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 3: At this point, we need to we need to strategize 282 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 3: now early and have our messaging like the difference. Like 283 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 3: you said, there was something different about Shannon. This was 284 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: a build up for us with Shannon visually on the show. Right, 285 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: you could see that this was going to at some 286 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: point become a thing for Shannon, and it was going 287 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 3: to blow at some point. It was just a matter 288 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 3: of time, unfortunately. And what Shannon did on the show 289 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: I felt like was she there was a bit of 290 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 3: there was there was a lot of contrition, you know. 291 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: She she seemed just distraught by it, right. So I 292 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: think with Karen having to put up that defense because 293 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: she knows that this is going to be the topic 294 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 3: of conversation, that to me is the sad part, because 295 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 3: now you can't even process your actual feelings with the 296 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 3: with with the audience because you're so fearful of what 297 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 3: your castmates may say or do with this information, or 298 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 3: if you give anything, they may use it against you. 299 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 3: That that is her fear. That's sad, No, and that 300 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: is sad. Child. 301 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 2: We are just getting started. This is reality with the 302 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. 303 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 2: So Karen missed the reunion. She did check herself into 304 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: some sort of recovery. You know, we are saying rehab. 305 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: You know, possibly that's a child. I don't know what 306 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: the other recovery it is, honey, but that's that, you know, 307 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: it is semantics. She Karen has a large following of 308 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 2: fans who love her regardless of what she does. Right, Okay, yeah, 309 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: Richie said the child you so you are a laddam. 310 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 3: I am a ladam. Listen I interview her one time. 311 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: I think you ship. I can't get ship from Karen, but. 312 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 3: I couldn't get it no more. 313 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: Karen. Give me the exit interview child. Goodness. 314 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 2: Wait, give it the anti first, Hudy. I'll take the second. 315 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: Child Lord, Listen. 316 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 3: Here's the thing with Housewives. I mean, listen, Look, they 317 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: waited for Teresa, right, I mean it's it's this is 318 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 3: not something she can't bounce back from the star or 319 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 3: the lead of a show that usually becomes or or 320 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 3: reaches that legendary status in reality TV land because they 321 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: can take the hits from every direction and they can 322 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 3: keep it pushing and if and to me, that is Karen. 323 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 3: She fits in there with the Kniannies and the Teresa's. 324 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: At this point in. 325 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: My mind agreed she was. 326 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 3: No. 327 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: I agree with that question for you. 328 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: There are people who Villa Domes who are like, Karen, 329 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: we love you, babe, you know, just we're praying for you. 330 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 2: There are some people who are disappointed after watching the footage, 331 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, there's a lot 332 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 2: of people who are like, we love you despite of 333 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: what we saw. 334 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: The question for you, let's have a real conversation. 335 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 2: Okay, if that was Giselle Bryant in that video, do 336 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: you think the response from the audience would be vastly different? 337 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 3: Well, just picture. The problem is I can't pictures. Here's 338 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 3: the thing. The absurdity of this is that I can 339 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 3: see this happening to Karen. And it's not because I don't. 340 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 3: Karen's not a She's not a sloppy woman. Don't get 341 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 3: me wrong. Karen is a She's Karen is pulled together, 342 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. She is pois, she's beautiful. 343 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 3: But you there, yo, you can't tell me this in 344 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 3: some small way that when you saw that video that 345 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: some part of you was like, oh yeah, okay, I 346 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 3: can see I can see my girl having that kind 347 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: of a day. I cannot picture Gazelle in this state. 348 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 3: I just can't. And I think that's the difference. So 349 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 3: it would the response be different. It would be drastically different, 350 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: I think because we tend to view as a very 351 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: controlled person and I for you know, for whether you 352 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: like her or not, That's the thing that I think 353 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: I respect about her the most after all of these years, 354 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 3: is that she is so controlled. She doesn't explode on 355 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: social media. You won't get a response from her. If 356 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: you are coming for her on social media, she will 357 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: get you in another way. Yeah, And that's just the truth, 358 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: I mean, And and it works for her. You know. 359 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 3: I feel like it's a virgo thing, but I'm not. 360 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: I can't be sure. 361 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, they said Gazelle is very much control. 362 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: She's very much poised in a very different way than Karen, 363 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: like j Jail's poisonous. 364 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: That's a word, is a lot. 365 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it has a lot to do with the 366 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 2: fact that Gizelle is that I was gonna says it's. 367 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: Her background, being the first lady. 368 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: Giselle is a Gizelle is a strikingly beautiful woman, right, 369 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: And I'm going someplace with these guys and Giselle from 370 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: the pictures I've seen, baby gazill has been beautiful her 371 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: entire life, which means Giselle has always been conscious of 372 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: that people are watching her and they're looking at her. 373 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: And I think Gizelle since birth has always been aware 374 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: that she's the center of attention. And when you are 375 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: the center of attention, you know that one move you 376 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 2: make is going to be talked about. She was the 377 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: first lady to Jamal Bryant, the first lady in a 378 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 2: black church is the grandam of the church and the community. 379 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 2: And you are very poised. You sit there on the 380 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 2: on the front road of the pool pit, honey, and 381 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: you watch your man past her to the congregation, and 382 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: you sit there with a Lais cross and a pearl 383 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: cloth over your crotch, honey, and you you make sure 384 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 2: that you know. 385 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: You gather of the girls. You know you gap, you 386 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: gathered the US shirt, you gap of the girls. 387 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: And you the first thing of the church is really. 388 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: Like the first lady of the United States. Okay, so I. 389 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: Mean slightly, and there's a slight. I'm looking down upon you. 390 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: You got it. You gotta admit that. I mean, let's 391 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: have a conversation. 392 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 2: Look, yeah, we've seen Jazelle Kobe Bryant, look Donald, some 393 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: people are her own show. 394 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: So I can an that's my love. 395 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: I don't care what anybody says. I love Jazelle, but 396 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: I also love Karen and Karen. Look, we are all 397 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 2: praying for you. Rich and I are huge fans of 398 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: you r. We are part of the ladam Klik. Richie 399 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: was blessed to get an interview with you. I am 400 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: waiting with beata breath for that to ever be an accomplishment. 401 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 2: You said no to my faith, you said, you said 402 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: the words never. I am somebody who lives in reality. 403 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: I'm not de Lulu, so but I'm hopeful. But all 404 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,239 Speaker 2: jus aside. We love you, Karen, We're praying for you, 405 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: we want the best for you. And look, do I 406 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 2: think Karen is fire? Absolutely not. Do I think the 407 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: show will be put on Paul's depending on her sentencing. 408 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: I this is my opinion. 409 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: I think the difference between Karen and Teresa, and this 410 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: is just me being honest. 411 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: Karen definitely. Let's be real. 412 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: Karen and Gazille are the leads, They're the anchors of 413 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: the show. 414 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I agree with that. 415 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 2: Okay, Teresa had no no co anchors on Jersey. 416 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: Teresa was you know you. 417 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 3: Just did a little old Melissa Lovelessa Gorga. 418 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: I do no, let's have a real conversation. Theresa had 419 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: no co anchor. She was a captain of the ship. 420 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 2: So without the captain, what are we doing here? So 421 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: I think the only reason why they would not pause 422 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: production depending on whatever sentencing Karen gets, is because look, 423 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: you got your Zelle, you got Mia, you got Wendy. 424 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 2: You know, like you, you have a healthy bunch of 425 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: women that can carry the torch shell shell Karen sentencing 426 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: the interferes with the sun of production. But do you 427 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 2: agree or disagree with that? 428 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this, and this is no disrespect to 429 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 3: the other ladies, because you know, I think that what 430 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: you would be missing if you don't have if you 431 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 3: have a season of no Karen, is you're missing a 432 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 3: level of sass that a cast member like Karen or 433 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 3: a Candace brings. It's it's this snap that it brings 434 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: to the show that adds to the comedy of it 435 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: at times. Well you know what I'm saying, depending on 436 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 3: how how how feisty they feeling right that that can 437 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: go from that can go from laughing to low right, 438 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 3: But they got what I'm saying is they got they 439 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 3: got a quick with it. Now Wingy's quick with it. 440 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: But it's it's a different level, right. Yes, to me, 441 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: I would liken more to a Giselle and in the 442 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: sense of her control, like she is a controlled person, right, Yes, 443 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: whereas I feel like Candace and Karen have a snap 444 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 3: to them. That's just it's almost it's bonkers the things 445 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: that they say and we and you know what I'm saying. 446 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 3: It's just it's it's off the cuff like that. So 447 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: I just for me, I might would pause it for 448 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: a minute. I mean hopefully, I mean, listen, I hope that, 449 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: I hope that whatever I'm open, I'm praying for the 450 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: best outcome for Karen. That's what I'm praying for. So 451 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 3: but in terms of the show, if you don't have Karen, 452 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: let's bring back let's let's bring back Candice into the mix. 453 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: If we can't, oh, I mean I'm not mad at that. 454 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: You know, her and Gazelle, they're gonna have to work 455 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 3: it out, Yes, work it out, and let's let's keep 456 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: the let's keep the checks coming. 457 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: Yes, well, I want to keep the checks coming for 458 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: all of my girls, including Mia. So Mia have first 459 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: chair after reunion and Gazelle set opposite of her, and 460 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: Gazelle has reclaimed her throne of getting the first chair. 461 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: Some people shaated my girl Gazelle and said it's because 462 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: Karen ain't there. But look, at the end of the day, Giselle, 463 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: think about that. 464 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: Leave Gisella alone, y'all. 465 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: She has first chair and I'm happy to see my 466 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: girl acclaim her throne. 467 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: So look. 468 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: Essence Magazine had an op ed recently where the baby 469 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 2: this headline gagged me. The headline was, there's nothing entertaining 470 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: about Mia Thornton's Real Housewives of Potomac storyline. Mia is 471 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: right not to stay in a toxic relationship. But between 472 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: ever changing stories, moving her boyfriend in immediately with her 473 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: kids and those Instagram posts, could she go about things 474 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: any worse? 475 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: Richie? 476 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: As you know, I am part of the Mia b 477 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: Lion crew. 478 00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: Mia b Lion. 479 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: Refused to accept that that's her fan base name. She says, 480 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: Carlos is called the Mia Moore's and all, I'm like, 481 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: it don't stick the same. 482 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: I love you, be afore it doesn't. I don't like 483 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: it be a bore. It doesn't. 484 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: It doesn't right, Richie doesn't stick the same me and 485 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: Blatt ran. 486 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 487 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: So anyways, I want to get your thoughts first about 488 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: this article because a lot of people are having some 489 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: very very strong reactions to mea this season. And before 490 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: I give you my opinion, I want to hear from you. 491 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: Do you think Mia is declassing the show. 492 00:31:55,080 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: So specific? Okay, I did this disclaimer, right, you know Mia, 493 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,239 Speaker 3: I know Mia? Right? So Mia is Actually we have 494 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: a friend circle that you know Mia is is also 495 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 3: very much entrenched in and I personally haven't been able 496 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 3: to spend a lot of time with her in that 497 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 3: friend circle because typically it's either I'm leaving at that 498 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 3: time and she's arriving or something like that. 499 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: The way you leave, you leave early to go home 500 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: and have a rest but night and Leah, Leah, Mia 501 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 2: enters around like one am. 502 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: No, no, I'm in by eight Okay, So it ain't 503 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 3: even like that. Okay, and that's only been a couple 504 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 3: of times, right. But here's the thing, So I give 505 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: that caveat to say this. You know the person that 506 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: I that I'm that I that I know more of 507 00:32:54,640 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 3: is obviously you know, she's you know, she's a cool chick, 508 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 3: she's some mean, you know, she's super nice, she's super sweet. 509 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 3: So so as I give this what I'm about to 510 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 3: give you, I give it in love. Okay, I gotta 511 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: say that, but I also got to be honest the 512 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: story for her, and I know that they've used storyline, 513 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 3: so I'm gonna follow their leave from essence, It's confusing. 514 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 3: It's confusing, and as a reviewer, it's difficult because I 515 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 3: don't ever really feel like talking about nobody's kids. Okay, 516 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 3: you get in trouble when you bring up kids, and 517 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 3: I just don't feel like I just don't want to 518 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 3: talk about it, So that part of it alone makes 519 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 3: me uncomfortable. I wish that I wish that they had left, 520 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 3: that they had cut that out of the show, to 521 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 3: be quite honest with you, because then I think that 522 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 3: this whole situation would be a little cleaner for her. 523 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: We I could almost deal with the confusion of Ink 524 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 3: and Gordon, but when you throw in a paternity sort 525 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 3: of storyline with this, then you make it like we 526 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 3: as an audience are kind of like, well, I'm trying 527 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 3: to judge you as a mama. You know I'm trying 528 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 3: to do that, but you know now, I mean, it's 529 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 3: so many different little layers and elements to it that 530 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 3: it has become convoluted. And if the storyline becomes convoluted, 531 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 3: then we as an audience. We're not entertained, We're just confused, 532 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 3: and then we tired. I'm tired. I am weary by it. 533 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 3: So if it's it's like, clear it up, resolve, how 534 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 3: do what's the result here? 535 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: Okay, So this is how I feel about it. And 536 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,479 Speaker 2: first of all, I get exactly what you're saying. This 537 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 2: is how I feel. That's the reason why MIA is 538 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: necessary for the shell to me everything you said like 539 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 2: having these strong feelings, these strong reactions right that are 540 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 2: rooted in how you really feel. 541 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: I feel like we. 542 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: Don't get that anymore on reality TV because a lot 543 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 2: of the people sign up for the wrong reasons. They 544 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: sign up for immediate fame, they sign up for immediate 545 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: success in terms of monetary means. They sign up to 546 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 2: promote whatever products, brands, stuff they have, but they're not 547 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 2: willing to give their real lives and exchange anymore. I 548 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 2: always go back to Season one of the Real Housewives 549 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: of Atlanta, my first ever production credit in reality television. 550 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: When Niini leaks storyline. 551 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 2: Season one of that show was the paternity of her father, right, 552 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 2: and we saw Niini go through the emotional roller coaster 553 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 2: of rather not the man who raised her was her 554 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: biological father. We find out at the end of the 555 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 2: season he was not. And then season two I was 556 00:35:55,080 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 2: we went to Athens together and Nini, which is a 557 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: true story. This is why I I. 558 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: I missed the days of real reality. 559 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 2: We're in Athens, Georgia looking for Nini's father and he's 560 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 2: on a park bench, like you can't you can't script that, 561 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 2: and her biological father looks exactly like her oldest son, Bryson, 562 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: And it was it was, It was real and it 563 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 2: was emotional. And I think the difference is the audience 564 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 2: judges women who may be going through fraternity issue versus men. 565 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: Even on my show Bell Collective, when Glenn had a 566 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: fraternity you know, scandal based on having an affair on 567 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 2: his wife Latitia, I was more repolished for the day 568 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 2: hosting the reunion and they agreed to have the results. 569 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: A lot of people was like, Okay, great, And I 570 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 2: think it's because it wasn't Latitia in. 571 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: The hot seat not knowing who the father of her 572 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: son was. 573 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 2: It was Glenn trying to figure out, like, is this 574 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 2: other woman some mind? So I do think women dealing 575 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 2: with that get a bad rap. And I get it 576 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 2: because that's just how society is. But I think what 577 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: Mia is giving me, and I'm gonna be very honest 578 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: when I say this, I feel like when it comes 579 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 2: to Potomac, especially this season, Karen d ui situation was 580 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 2: arguably the strongest personal storyline, but she gave what she 581 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 2: gave us nothing to work with, nothing, nothing, no conversations 582 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 2: about it, no meetings with nothing, no court nothing, nothing. 583 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 2: And I struggle with that. I miss Candace because Kansas 584 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 2: gave us her mom Dorothy issues, you know, her, her 585 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 2: her husband Chris, you know, not being the bread and 586 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: you know. I miss Michael Darby because we had real personal. 587 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: Stories that we were like, oh Lord. 588 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 2: And I do think because Mia is the only one 589 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 2: giving us. 590 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: That this season, a lot of the eyeballs are on her. 591 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 2: And when it comes to kids, I agree with everybody. 592 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 2: I don't like seeing kids who are minors having to 593 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 2: deal with that. So I want thousand percent agree with 594 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 2: that and I want thousand percent get it. I do 595 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 2: think Mia is getting a bad rap too, because we 596 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: have been conditioned to accept the mediocrity of what we're 597 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 2: given that is spoon fed by reality stars who don't. 598 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: Want to give us any reality anymore. 599 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 2: And when you have a cast member who's like, I'm 600 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 2: just giving y'all the real and here you go, and 601 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: I think she's being judged harshly for it. 602 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so let's let's dive into that, because what you 603 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,439 Speaker 3: have introduced to me is something it ain't. It's not new, 604 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 3: but it's a reminder that real life is messy. 605 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 606 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 3: Real life is messy and we may never understand it. 607 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 3: And so when you put it into that context, I 608 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 3: think because we also have added in the kid element, 609 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 3: which makes me uncomfortable, especially because this is also someone 610 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 3: I know, I think that is it it and that 611 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 3: that's why I mention it, because I want when I 612 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 3: say I'm uncomfortable, these are the the real reasons why 613 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 3: I personally am uncomfortable about it. Right. And it's not 614 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 3: like I'm going to pick up the phone and call 615 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 3: her and say, hey, hey girl, what's going on with 616 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 3: this with the storyline. I would never do that because 617 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,959 Speaker 3: even if we did happen to, I wouldn't mention the show. 618 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 3: I wouldn't mention anything about it because that's not what 619 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 3: I want any of my relationships outside of this to be. Right, 620 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 3: So I wouldn't know what to say to her other 621 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 3: than I guess just be yourself and if this is 622 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 3: actually your real life, And she does make a really 623 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 3: strong case for that on the show, which is also 624 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 3: a little bit of breaking the fourth wall that I 625 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 3: really hadn't processed until you just mentioned it. She's directly 626 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 3: saying it to them. I'm showing my real life. You 627 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 3: girls are not. 628 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the reason why I will defend Mia 629 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: until the end of time, because you know, listen, you Richie, 630 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 2: you of all people know this. You know people love 631 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 2: to shade me and throw my name into stuff that 632 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 2: I have nothing to do with. So of course the 633 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 2: narrative is and I'm sure you saw this, Carlos HiPE 634 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 2: Mia up as Carlos fall He said Mia was the 635 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,479 Speaker 2: star of the shall carl I'm like, and I'm gonna 636 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 2: stand ten tones behind it because Mia is doing exactly 637 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 2: what I knew she was capable of, which is being real. 638 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 2: And again I'm not agreeing with what she does or 639 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 2: how she lives her life. 640 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 1: That's not my job. I'm a viewer. 641 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 2: I'm watching her and I am entertained by it. I'm 642 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 2: entertained by it. What I'm not entertained by is people 643 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 2: who don't want to address real things happening in their 644 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 2: real lives, and they get away with it because they 645 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 2: try to give you a moment, or they deflect, or 646 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: they do a rehearse read, or they bring on fake 647 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 2: relationships and they try to have meetings behind the scenes 648 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 2: of the cast members and say this is going to 649 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 2: be our main story. 650 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: I don't like that, y'all. 651 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 2: So so my thing to the audience is what do 652 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 2: y'all want? When someone gives y'all real y'all mad at it. 653 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 2: But when someone gives y'all a fake boyfriend, where someone 654 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 2: gives y'all a fake storyline that was conspired against y'all accepted, Well, 655 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 2: so what is it? Y'all want reality or you want 656 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 2: the reality that fits you. And I don't want to 657 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 2: watch TV shows that makes me comfortable to watch. 658 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: When I watched the eleven o'clock. 659 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 2: News, I'm uncomfortable what's happening in the neighborhood or in 660 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 2: the state that I lived in. 661 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 1: It makes me uncomfortable. 662 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 2: But I'm watching it because it's really happening, and I 663 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 2: need to understand how the world works, you know, not 664 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 2: to get all political and stuff. But I had a 665 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 2: conversation recently with a few friends of mine about Kamala Harris, 666 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 2: and you know how she lost the election and how 667 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 2: a lot of us was surprised she lost because we 668 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 2: are in this echo chamber. 669 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: Well, according to everything. 670 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 2: I saw, I thought she wasn't shoe in, but again right, 671 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 2: I thought she was a shoeing And then when the 672 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 2: results came out, it was like, oh, it was a 673 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 2: landslide loss. So I don't want to live in a 674 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 2: world to where I'm being spoon fed things that makes 675 00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 2: me comfortable. 676 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: I want reality of life. 677 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 2: And Mia Thornton is giving us the reality of life. 678 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: And it's not our job to be comfortable with it. 679 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 2: It's our job to watch it and yes, have comments 680 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 2: on it and judge it. You know, we're all we're 681 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 2: a judgmental world. But it's what we signed on to watch. 682 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 2: And it makes me sad that Mia unfortunately is giving 683 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,439 Speaker 2: the show what it needs and no one appreciates it. 684 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 3: But I have a question for you. 685 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: Go ahead. 686 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 3: To bring it back full circle. Okay, so the name 687 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 3: that you christened her Mia be lying your audience believe her, 688 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 3: and do the castmates believe her, because every interview that 689 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 3: I've seen from Giselle to Wendy is them all saying 690 00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 3: she's lying. So I think that also adds a layer 691 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 3: to this is it? Is it real? That's what I 692 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 3: think is also a little like do I trust my 693 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 3: own eyes? 694 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 2: I love it? I love it. I love it, I 695 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 2: love it, I love I love it. And and you 696 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 2: raised a very good point. Mia did not do herself 697 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 2: a good service by not remembering things that should be rememberable. Right. 698 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: I coined the phrase Mia be lying for a reason. 699 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 2: Right, So I now that I agree with and I 700 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 2: did even think about that, So thank you Richie for 701 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 2: that too. If the audience is struggling with whether or 702 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 2: not we can believe it, I tenth toes down. 703 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 1: Understand that, got it. 704 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 2: If we're questioning whether or not it's believable, got it, 705 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 2: get it understood. 706 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: Let's have a real conversation about that. 707 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 2: Right, Mia, girl, we all call you me and be lying, 708 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 2: And you know, even my interview with her, thank you 709 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 2: me and for saying yes to me. Karen said never, 710 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 2: I accept anyone who says yes to reality with the king. 711 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 2: So I said to her, Richie, you saw the interview said, 712 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 2: let's talk about this, be and be lying, and she goes, Okay, 713 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 2: let's talk about it, and she goes, look, it's not 714 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 2: that me and be lying. Mia, don'te be remembering and 715 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 2: Mia sometimes forget the truth. 716 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: But Ritchie, she's so damn likable. I'm like, look, be Bitchie. 717 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 3: That I did. Yeah, you know what she is like 718 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 3: I mean, and that's what I try to like. I 719 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 3: do try to balance that with telling people like this 720 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 3: is this is somebody that in reality is likable, Like 721 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 3: you can't help it. She's just she's just like that. 722 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 3: But uh, the misremembering is not helpful to us in 723 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 3: the in the form of the story. And I have 724 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 3: to love I love Jacqueline for her, but I have 725 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 3: to wonder if Jacqueline helps or hurts her at times. 726 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 2: Jacqueline's having a bad season too, and Jacqueline knows I 727 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 2: love her, and Jacqueline, please don't send me another deal. 728 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 1: I love Richie. These girls be reading me the DLS. 729 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, look, dude, Richie, I. 730 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 2: Get a da from a girl who reads me. And 731 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 2: I'm like, why is that. Everybody in the world can have. 732 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: An opinion but me. I'm just give me. 733 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 2: I don't say anything this sparatic about the girls. I 734 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 2: just said to you, I was told something about Karen 735 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 2: munth Ago. I would never expose that if that is true, 736 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 2: because I'm not. 737 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 1: I'm not like that. 738 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 3: But look, because we're saying this, I feel like we're 739 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 3: saying these things in love, right because we love the 740 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 3: show so it This ain't no bashing session. This is 741 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 3: literally us dissecting the show and the elements of the show. 742 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 3: But we got we gotta be able to say what 743 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 3: we what we. 744 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: See you would think. 745 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,959 Speaker 2: So unfortunately, looks in the words of Kansas La Bas said, 746 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 2: the line is always moving. 747 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 3: Not a lot is gone. 748 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 2: A lot of gone, honey, and I'm coloring outside of it. Richie, 749 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 2: thank you so much for stepping in this week. 750 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 1: You have been such a joy. 751 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 2: Let my rain drops know Richie with the find you 752 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 2: follow you and support your amazing podcast, YouTube channel and 753 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 2: do we call it a travel blog, like explain all 754 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 2: the amazing things you have going on? 755 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 3: Okay, So first of all, follow me at dj Richie 756 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 3: Scott everything on all social media Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube, snapchat, 757 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 3: all of that, and then when you do dive in 758 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 3: come travel with me. We got some trips coming up 759 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 3: to Thailand. We're doing group trips to Kate Town and Zanzibar, 760 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 3: so we got some exciting things coming up. So you 761 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 3: guys can if you are a traveler, if you've never 762 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 3: traveled out of the country, if you want to travel 763 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 3: with the group and your friends don't want to go 764 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,359 Speaker 3: because they can't, you know, make up their minds, then 765 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,359 Speaker 3: this is the place for you. 766 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: Richie, I'll see you the next one. 767 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 2: Love y'all, I love you. 768 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Reality with the King. 769 00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 2: New episodes drop on Tuesdays and Thursdays. 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