WEBVTT - this is the wellness wild west 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:12.680 You were just looking for ways to be healthy, and 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.239 all of a sudden you're getting gray market peptides from 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:19.040 China and injecting them into your body. So it's a 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.880 wild West out there and there's no real regulation going on. 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:26.040 Victoria's Song is a senior reviewer at The Verge. You 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.640 might remember her from our episode about the Meta ray Bands. Recently, 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:32.480 she's been writing about something that she calls the wellness 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:33.800 wild West. 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:38.800 Basically, wellness is just anything that's not medicine, right, you know, 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:43.240 stuff like breathing exercises or ag one which is athletic, 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:48.360 greens supplements, supplements of all kinds, and online people be 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:53.320 out here making some wild claims as wellness influencers. 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:57.280 I've honestly reverse aged myself using neuroscience and biohacking, and 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:58.320 I've had testing done. 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.040 My biological age is eighteen, which was the youngest that 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.560 the scale would go. You're four ways to biohack your 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:05.840 body and truly feels superhuman. 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:10.040 So this little guy right here is called NAD plus 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:14.200 and three days ago I started injecting it into my body. 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:16.840 Let me tell you why and what it does. And 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.040 a lot of times what they do is they hawk 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:22.120 a product, and then they will tell you something that's 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:26.840 sort of an actual fact, put it next to something 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.960 that's quite misleading. So you push a thought or an agenda, 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:32.520 and that's how you get people. You know, they're just 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.480 starting off with supplements and somehow they end up in fascism. 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:39.560 That's just basically kind of how the wellness wild Blest works. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.399 You know, like you start off trying to eat clean, 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.440 and then all of a sudden you don't believe in vaccines. 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:49.560 You start off just looking for sunscreen, and then all 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.279 of a sudden, you're rubbing beef tallow all over your face. 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.279 You can eat your skinkcare, you should not be putting 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:55.800 it on your face. 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.040 The biggest question I get asked is how long did 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.000 it take to see results from your beef tallow? Because 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.080 this is where it started in January and this is 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:03.160 where I'm at now forty one. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.520 I don't have any botox and fillers, no Guadalajara facelifts. 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.120 And it's very hard to tell fact from truth because 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:14.400 oftentimes these influencers are blending facts or distorting them in 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.480 a certain way. They're going to say this is scientifically backed, 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:18.639 this is clinically backed. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.440 At acre actually included the clinically studied amounts to be 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:22.239 fully effective. 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.400 It's back by science. Okay, this is a twelve step 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.920 Korean skincare routine and a capsule, and like, what does 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:33.120 that mean? What does clinical testing mean for a supplement 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:37.600 that is not regulated? What does clinical testing mean for 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:42.560 a skincare gadget that is again not regulated. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.320 It's not just influencers getting into this new wild West. 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.840 Tech companies are making money here too. There's luxury shoe inserts, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:53.000 hormone testing, kits Ai enabled treadmills. If you can strap 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:54.800 a device onto your wrists, or if you want to 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.000 go more official, you could embed it under your skin. 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.799 The umbrella term for all of us is called longevity, 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:04.720 and it just funnels into this, like I think culturally 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:09.080 existential fear of dying, so we're gonna use our tech 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.720 to optimize ourselves so we live as long as possible. 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.360 And it's a very human desire. But tech do be 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.079 taking it to some extremes. 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.239 And Victoria's also taking it to some extremes here too. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.600 She's not just reporting on it, she's actively testing some 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.200 of this stuff on herself. 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.160 If you know anything about science journalism. If you know 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.120 anything about health tech, if you know anything about the space, 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.320 You're just sitting there and the internal screams just keep 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:38.640 getting louder as you see, see it proliferate. 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.600 So, in keeping with the wild West theme on this episode, 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.200 we're going to get into the good, the bad, and 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.280 the good. Lord, why would you inject that into your body? 0:03:54.200 --> 0:04:03.400 Kaleidoscope and iHeart podcasts. This is kill Switch. I'm Dexter Thomas, I'm. 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:40.440 Goodbye. 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.720 Victoria writes a newsletter called Optimizer, and one of her 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.880 recent installments was about the trip she took to this 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.560 year's Consumer Electronics Show or ce S. So ce S 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.080 is a big convention where companies announced all the latest 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.039 gadgets that are coming out this year. I remember I 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:58.440 used to look forward to this back in the day 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:00.000 because I can find out what new video games are 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:04.200 coming out. Needless to say, things have changed. Victoria's overall 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.240 impression of this year's CES, as she wrote in her newsletter, 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:11.080 was that it was quote a wash in bodily fluids. 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.960 It's because there was a lot of bodily fluid tech 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.800 that was at the show. Like I saw a taint zapper, 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:21.960 which was a wearable that men put in their chaint 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.200 to help them delay premature ejaculation. 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:29.880 Yes, sorry, we went right there. We went right there, 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.040 didn't we. I was gonna warm up and maybe talk 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.000 about that later. I was thinking, like, oh, let's save 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.600 that for the fun part of the end of the episode. No, okay, well, 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:40.120 let's go right into it. A taint zapper, please elaborate. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:44.159 It's a wearable band aid with an electrical component that 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:49.720 zap's you there to delay ejaculation. And is there scientific 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.960 proof that this works? I don't know. The FDA has 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.840 cleared it, so it's not going to harm you. They 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.279 did testing on rabbits to make sure it wasn't going 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:04.000 to rip off any sensitives down there. So cool. That's 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.720 one example of the wellness wild West. Another would be 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.800 like hormone testing gadgets. I wrote about this, like hormone 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.840 egg called mirror, and you basically pian a stick and 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.479 then you stick it in this little egg shaped machine 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:25.320 and it reads your hormones and you can not diagnose, 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.800 but it can like flag whether you show signs of 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.040 perimenopause or other various things. 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.440 And that thing that you did right there though, where 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.640 you said diagnose wait a second, not diagnose flag. That's 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:40.840 kind of a hallmark of all of this stuff, right, 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:45.719 is that it really feels like medical devices. And of 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.440 course they have the little disclaimer at the bottom, this 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.080 is not meant to treat or diagnose any disease or 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.880 anything like that, but I think people just kind of 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:55.880 ignore that. People look past it. You know. It's kind 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.520 of like looks like a duck, talks like a duck. 0:06:58.080 --> 0:06:58.880 I think it's a duck. 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.680 So there's actually like a legal reason for that, and 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.160 it's because if anything is diagnostic or could inform your 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.360 medical treatment, that is a medical device and it requires 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:13.600 FDA regulatory oversight. Wellness does not. The definition legally is 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.040 that a wellness device is just for fun. It's just 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.840 for your education. It's for your entertainment so that you 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:22.440 know something about yourself. It's not diagnosing you with anything. 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:27.640 So that does not require FDA oversight. And the process 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:31.560 of FDA oversight is lengthy. It requires expensive testing. It 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.280 has to be hippocompliant. If it collects any data and 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.360 transmits it to your phone, all of that has to 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.240 have appropriate data security protocols. They have to test for 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.960 different skin colors is very expensive. Like I'm going to 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.400 use the tt zapper as an example. I first saw 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.880 it in twenty twenty. It didn't get FDA clearance until 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.120 like twenty twenty five, I believe, and they had to 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.640 go through two rounds of fundraising for millions of dollars 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.920 because the FDA was like, you're going to need clearance 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:02.000 for that, because that is a sense area that you're 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:05.560 proposing to stick a device onto. So a lot of 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.840 times with the wellness space is you have companies who 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.240 are trying to circumvent that. And a really good example 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.440 that happened recently, I think last summer was Whoop, which 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:19.520 is a fitness tracker company. They had this beta feature 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.559 which would kind of give you an estimate of your 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:23.320 blood pressure. 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:27.400 The all new Whoop is here, get the most advanced 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.200 view of your health with blood pressure insights right from 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:31.200 your wrist. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:35.200 Now, the FDA was like, hold up, wait a second, 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:39.400 this requires FDA oversight, and Woop was like no, no, no, no, 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.320 no, no no, this is a wellness feature. And what was 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.840 in contention was like this beta feature you had to 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.600 kind of calibrate with a blood pressure cuff and then 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.680 once you calibrated in the app, it would kind of 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:55.199 give you an estimate of your systelic and diastolic blood 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.160 pressure and tell you whether it was high, medium, or low. 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.920 And the FDA was like, that is very close and 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:08.000 consumers could be you know, ostensibly misinterpreting those results as 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.160 a diagnosis of hypertension of being told that they have high. 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:12.920 Blood pressure if it's as high. 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.480 Yeah. Right, So, like the design of that feature fits 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.760 in this very gray area that wellness devices kind of 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.120 live in at the moment, and you know Whoop was saying, 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:23.640 like the no, no, this is the same as us 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:28.240 telling you what your respiratory rate during sleep is. And 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.840 you know, they had the appropriate disclaimers there. They had 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.040 disclaimers saying this is not medical, this is not a diagnosis. 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.679 But I believe for the average consumer, they're going to 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.640 look at that and they're going to say, oh, no, 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.720 it's telling me I have high blood pressure. And because 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.400 it was calibrated with a cuff, it must be accurate. 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.320 Yeah, because that feels and looks probably just like the 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.640 same exact thing that you use at the doctor's office. 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:51.280 Yeah. 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.320 The twenty first Century Cures Act makes it very clear 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:59.679 that wellness intended features are not supposed to be regulated 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:00.720 by the FDA. 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.640 That's the CEO of Whoop in an interview with Bloomberg 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:07.640 explaining why he thinks his device does not need FDA approval. 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:11.720 And the FDA is intended to actually just regulate medical 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:15.960 devices that are diagnosing something. So then the fundamental question 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:21.120 becomes does blood pressure have wellness intended use cases? We 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:21.920 believe it does. 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.640 Once you understand the legal framework of what is an 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:30.520 FDA cleared medical device versus a wellness gadget, you can 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.680 start to see it and that in the features that 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.040 these tech companies will release, like for the Apple Watch, 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:38.840 they'll never give you a direct reading of what it 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.640 thinks your blood pressure is. It'll tell you where you're trending. 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.800 So in truths, by not giving you the reading and 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:49.040 saying you're trending this way, that's a wellness feature. So 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.920 it's the very difference between flagging something and diagnosing you 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:53.520 with something. 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.960 This medical versus wellness gray area is a big part 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.440 of how this entire industry is even able to function. 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:04.760 And the biggest trend right now is well trends. See 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:06.839 in the past, you could get some simple devices that 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.400 would give you a basic number, like say a step counter, 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.480 We'll just tell you how many steps you took during 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.560 that day. But now it's all about getting as much 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.040 data as possible and putting all that data into a 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.800 phone app that'll show you a graph and then interpret 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:23.440 that data for you. It can't show you a diagnosis, 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.360 because legally that would be a problem, but it can 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.240 show you a trend, which means that analyzing your health 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.600 is no longer dependent on a doctor. Maybe you think 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.319 that's a good thing, maybe you think it's a bad thing, 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.160 But it also means that you're going to be handing 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.319 over a lot of information to some company and you 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:40.840 just got to trust them. 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.319 It's your blood, it's your sweat, it's your hormones. They 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.400 want to track all of these things like blood tests 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:51.000 like AURA and WHOOP for example, will now partner with 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:56.199 Quest Diagnostics, so you can upload your blood test results tracing. However, 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:01.280 many biomarkers into their platform. When you start doing that, 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:06.080 when you start taking a withvings at home, PP lab 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.520 in installing it in your toilet so it can tell you. 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.120 Pause PP Sorry, yeah. 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.160 It's called the U scan. It isn't at home. Your 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.040 analysis lab. It has cartridges in it, and it can 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:21.559 tell you your hydration levels or your like vitamin C 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:26.440 levels and you know it EPI it. Yeah. And for 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:30.520 some people who have specific conditions, like maybe you have 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:35.199 polycystic overy syndrome and you kind of want more information 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.480 about your hormones so you can talk to your doctor. 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.400 There's nothing inherently wrong with that. It's when you get 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:45.520 to the sense of marketing and telling everybody you need 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.160 to do this. Everyone needs to have an at home 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.760 lab on them at all points in time. And like 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.080 the kind of the umbrella term for this what I 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.839 call the wellness surveillance state, because I find it very 0:12:55.880 --> 0:13:00.359 invasive that these companies want not just your activity data, 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.760 but your blood and your blood sugar and your metabolic 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.520 data and your urine and your sweat, and they want 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.439 to know about your cycle. You know, once you give 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:14.199 these companies your data, who's reading the data privacy policies? 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:18.439 Right when you have wellness versus medical device, where does 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:24.199 that fall under HIPPA? Which is grossly outdated for health 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.600 tech in the state that we're in right now, it's 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.480 very murky because let's say you trust Apple with your 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:34.760 period data. And then you sink Apple period data with Aura. Well, 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.600 you've just given that to Aura, so now you have 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.640 to agree to their privacy policies in terms you have 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:44.640 to so it's not one device you trust them. It 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:48.760 gets very murky very quickly. You know. The very dystopian 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:53.600 fear is that corporate wellness programs start putting these things 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:57.240 out to give you discounts on healthcare and then finding oh, 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.760 will raise your premium but not the other person is premium. 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.600 There's no evidence that that's happened yet, but that is 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.079 the fear, right, This is. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.680 A legitimate fear, and companies seem to at least be 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.200 aware of this. In the case of Whoop, their privacy 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:15.240 policy states, quote, we never sell our members personal data. 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:20.080 This is our promise end quote. And yet they're currently 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.600 facing a class action lawsuit from a user who claims 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.880 their data was shared with a third party without consent, 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.240 and a peer reviewed study found that Whoop exhibited quote 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:33.160 substantive deficiencies and privacy protection in quote despite having the 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.240 longest privacy policy in the study, coming in at over 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.680 twelve thousand words for reference. That is longer than the 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.920 transcript of this entire episode. So just think of that 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:44.360 as you listen to the rest of the show. 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:49.040 The more invasive these things get, the greater the fear 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.640 as to like, well, how is that data being used? 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:55.240 And can you trust these companies to protect your data? 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.800 Like Aura had a bit of a backlash last year 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.040 because they announced a partnership with Palenteer. 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.560 People are throwing away their or rings because Aura just 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:09.760 signed a deal with the US Department of Defense and Palenteer. Palenteers. 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.560 Kind of like those movies where they scan someone's face 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.200 and all of the person's information pops up, That's what 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:15.920 Palenteer does. 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.120 They were working with Palenteer and the DoD for a 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.600 specific set of enterprise use for their ring. They were 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:25.360 saying that they kept that data separate from consumer data. 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.120 But to the average consumer, that's just like, well, what 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.880 the hell does that mean? You keep them in separate 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.160 data silos? Like do you trust that company? 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:35.560 But hold on, speaking of which I've seen you move 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.200 in your hands, Is that an AURA ring? 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.680 Yeah, this is an Aura ring. It is I do 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.760 have to test it for a living. I have come 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:45.960 to terms in peace that my data is out there, 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:49.720 Like I cannot test wearable tech and not have it 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:51.080 out there. I just live with that. 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.080 Talk to me about that, though, because a lot of 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.960 people say that exact same thing, which is to say, 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:57.880 my dad is already out there. If they want it, 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.320 they can come get it. But you're actively going out 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:04.760 and finding this stuff that is the most privacy invading possible, 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.640 and you're saying, cool, sign me up. It's for your job. 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:11.240 But what a job? Does that make you nervous at all? 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:12.040 Uh? 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.640 And my mom really nervous when she was alive. She 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.600 kind of begged me to find a different line of work. 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.320 But uh, really, yeah, she did. She was very concerned 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:23.080 about it. But I have limits as to how invasive 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.440 I will be willing to go. Like I'm not ever 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:30.000 going to test a BCI, which is a brain computer 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.840 interface like neurrolink. I'm not doing that. Like that's a 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.800 little too invasive for me. It's a conversation I have 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.280 with my editors too. If it feels too invasive for me, 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:40.760 I am just not going to do it. 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.280 Victoria has a pretty high bar for it too invasive, 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.200 So if she won't touch it, I think that's saying something. 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.240 On the other hand, there are people who will inject 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.440 gray market substances into their body because somebody on TikTok 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.840 told them to do it, And honestly, some of the 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:02.080 comment sections from unsatisfied customers get pretty weird. After the break, 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:13.720 Victoria takes us into the affiliate influencer code industrial complex. So, 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:18.119 in terms of the wellness wild West, we've talked about 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.760 wearables a lot. Not everything you're putting on your body. 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:23.920 Some of you are putting in your body. Tell me 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:24.760 about ratatoui. 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:29.360 Oh okay, So ratitui is kind of a code word 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.840 that wellness influencers and fitness influencers use for Reta True 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:36.040 Tide ret A True tide is. It gets real technical, 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.640 but it is kind of the latest if G LP 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:44.520 one medications for Pokemon. This is the latest evolution of 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:48.199 the Pokemon char Charizard. 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.879 This is the we gov chars are we go ament? 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:53.400 All right? 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:59.760 Yeah, so you know Ozambic will go v that's the Charmander, right. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:04.040 Then you have Munjaro and zep found that is the Charmelion, 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:08.879 and Reta truetide is Charizard. It is also unapproved. It 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:12.679 is currently going through Phase three clinical trials. The only 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:16.880 way to get the bona fide Reta truetide is if 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:20.000 you are part of a clinical trial run by Eli Lilly. 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:24.600 That is the only way. While the influencers are out 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:29.399 there like I'm on Ritta, I'm on Ratatu. Wee, here's 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.600 my crazy insane wellness results. 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:33.720 Update that nobody asked for. 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.280 I just finished my fourth week of Ratatu week, and 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:37.520 I say this, it's amazing. 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.640 Twenty five pounds in four weeks. My strength is basically 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:45.359 the same. I've lost zero muscle and I did this 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.520 while eating pizza and canes and drinking alcohol every day, 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.200 so safe to say it works. 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.760 Today is actually my first official day working out on Ritta. 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.800 It's like insane. I'm fastard right now. I had so 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.760 much energy, I got all my cardio done. Like literally, 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.400 just get on it. You have nothing to lose. And 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:09.280 they will say it's past phase three clinical trials. No, no, no, no. 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.560 There are like I believe seven or eight clinical trials 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:17.000 that are ongoing in phase three and they've completed one 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.000 of those trials and we don't even have the full 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.600 results of that particular trial yet. We have the top 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.760 line results of it. But you know they're out there 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:29.760 saying it's totally fine. It's safe, and then they'll say 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.800 something that's true, which is our healthcare system sucks and 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:36.639 that the insurance companies are charging a crap ton of 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:41.359 money for these JLP one medications that could really change 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:44.119 your life. They don't want you to have it. 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.280 It is your reminder that REDDA will be if I 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:47.880 proved by twenty twenty. 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:52.399 Seven, So find a way to get it now before 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.119 they start charge thousand dollars for a one supply. 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:59.960 Here's my affiliate code. I have vetted this particular lab 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.360 that's selling research grade Red A True Tide. 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:04.720 Check the link in my bio. 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.080 You can get yourself some or shoot me a DM 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:07.879 we can talk about it. 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:09.199 I've done a ton of research on it. 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:11.960 If you're struggling to lose weight, I highly recommend you 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:13.959 look into taking Red A True Tide. If you want 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:15.879 to pick some up from a trusted source, I have 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:16.640 link in my bio. 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.520 You can buy it on TikTok in five minutes. I did. 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:21.600 I bought a vial and like five minutes to prove 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:27.480 a point, I had a ten percent influencer affiliate code discount. 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.240 And you actually bought this, and so this is something 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:31.160 anybody can be doing. 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:34.320 On TikTok's something anybody can do. On TikTok, you'll find 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:38.280 influencers going like, here's how you reconstitute rehdta, because they're 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.119 not selling it to you. When you get actual GLP 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.480 one prescriptions from the doctor, you're probably getting pens where 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:47.920 it's pre mixed and you just like inject it. It's 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.840 the appropriate dosage. You are going to see a doctor 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:54.159 every month to talk about your levels and py trading 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:57.800 your dose, talking about side effects and managing those symptoms 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:01.920 with rehta. Right now, you're geting some guy on TikTok 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:06.119 who's not a real doctor saying like, yeah, you should 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:09.480 use two point five grams, and here's how you use 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:14.280 an online peptide calculator, and here's how you reconstitute Amazon 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:16.880 link in my bio to buy syringes that I use. 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:19.640 You just got your ratitude and you're confused on how 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.160 to reconstitute it. I'm going to break it down as 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:25.640 simply as possible so even your grandma could understand this. 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:29.359 I just opened this individually wrapped in slin syringe. I 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:33.200 pulled some airback into it, and I am going to 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:39.520 puncture the top of the backwater and then push some 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.080 of that air in. And by the way, this is 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:47.240 not medical advice. This is for research and entertainment purposes only. 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:51.560 They are buying syringes off of Amazon. They are buying 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:55.560 bacteriostatic water off of wherever, which is sterilized water, and 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.120 they are mixing these things themselves, and they are injecting 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:00.000 it to their bodies. And then you read the comments 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:02.479 and they're like, I got like a huge rash from 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:05.240 the injection side. Is that normal? I'm vobbiting my brains 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:09.360 out because they didn't dost properly. Are they actually injecting 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:13.520 reta true tide into their bodies. I've talked to pharmacists, 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.560 I've talked to doctors and anercrinologists, and they're just like, 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:20.440 ain no fucking way, excuse the French, ain't no way 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.960 that that's the real reta true tide. You do not 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:25.960 know what you are injecting, you don't know what it's 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:30.320