1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks Insiders. Russell It takes the snap, 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: steps up in the pocket, looks hast time. Now he's 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: gonna throw Tyler Locker, looks for the ball. He's got 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Straight Hawks getting you ready for Seahawks football 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: every Sunday the handoff Insider cars and starts up the 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: metal now bounces it to Seahawks powered by Seahawks dot Com. 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: Boy it feels good to even that record at two 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: and two. It makes everything just a little bit easier, 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: minus the fact that it is a short week in 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: a primetime game on Thursday. Gen Mueller and John Boyle 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: with you for this edition of the Seahawks Insiders Podcast. John, 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: is it just me or is there like no sense 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: of time on a weekdays? I have no idea what 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: day it is. We would have missed our recycle pick 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 1: up yesterday if not for a nice neighbor who took 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: it out for me. So shout out to Rusty, thanks 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: for that. But yeah, these weeks get confusing. Yeah, I've 18 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: woken up each of the last two mornings trying to 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: figure out what day it is and what it is 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: that I'm supposed to do and you know what, it 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: actually does not get easier on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: because we're not going to be doing anything normal those 23 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: days either. Except Sunday, I've already marked off to watch 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: an entire day of football. I am very, very excited 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: about it. Excellent. I will be more excited if the 26 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: Seahawks can get the win against the Rams. It is 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: a tough test, but John, I think that you're feeling 28 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: a lot better. And I don't want to put words 29 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: into your mouth, but I think everybody is feeling a 30 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: lot better after what they saw in San Francisco. There 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: was a couple of different ways this team got over 32 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: the hump. Offensively, they were able to score points in 33 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: the second half and just stay on the field convert 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: some of those third downs. And then defensively, we saw 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: a different scheme, a new starter, and I think that 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: helped with some of those results for sure. I mean, 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm really encouraged by what we saw it. On the defense, 38 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: it looked kind of bleak to start. You know, we're 39 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: worried about the defense after the last couple of weeks, 40 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: and then the forty nine ers just march right down 41 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: on the field for a long touchdown drive and you're thinking, okay, 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: here we go, and they really turned things around. They 43 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: didn't give up another score after that one until pretty 44 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: late in the game, when when they had the game 45 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: pretty well in control, you know, forced a bunch of punts, 46 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: got a takeaway. It just there's a lot of good 47 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: stuff to see. And you know, you mentioned the scheme 48 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: going I liked what they did with that dime package 49 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: a lot. We saw really good things out of Ryan 50 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: Neal had a bunch of third down stops, so I 51 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: would guess we're going to see more of that going forward. 52 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: And it was a lot of good stuff. Absolutely. Ryan 53 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: Neil was a difference maker. Four tackles, one pass defense. 54 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: The Hawks had four passes defense in the first half, 55 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: nine total in the game. That is significant because there 56 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: were five in the first three games of the year, 57 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: so a huge jump there. When we talk about cornerback play, 58 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: there was a new starter. There was also a change 59 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: for DJ Reid Pete Carroll liking what he saw with 60 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: the new alignment. I thought DJ played very, very comfortably 61 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: on the right side. It's his best side. And then 62 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: that was a good move in that sense. Sydney had 63 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: had some good play, did some nice things and got 64 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: in trouble a couple of times, and it's just first 65 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: time out stuff, and but he was comfortable in the game, 66 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: he responded well, he adjusted well as we did stuff 67 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: during the game and in the game, and that he 68 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: competed really well. I guess maybe I know the answer 69 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: to this, But do you plan to keep going with 70 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: that for those two for now as the starters or 71 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: it's a really short week and those are big decisions 72 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: and we haven't gotten there yet. But yeah, right now, 73 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: if we're playing tonight, he'd be playing again. Nice of 74 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: Bob Condota to make an appearance on our podcast with 75 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: the question there. Yeah, I mean again, as Pete Carroll said, 76 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't perfect, especially for Sidney Jones. He had some mistakes, 77 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: which maybe unfortunately is kind of what is expected and 78 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: necessary when you make an end season change like that. 79 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: But again, overall, just what we saw of that secondary 80 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: in general looked a lot better. And I would only 81 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: think it's going to look better going forward when you 82 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: have Sidney Jones and getting more comfortable, DJ Reid settling 83 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: and back on that right side where he played so 84 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: well last year. Well, and you could tell is the 85 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: game went on right, And yes, there was that long 86 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: touchdown play late in the game that really skewed some 87 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: of the numbers, and a couple of late scores made 88 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: this game look closer than it actually was. But you 89 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: could tell that the coverage tightened up as the game 90 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: went on. You mentioned that opening drive by the forty 91 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: nine ers that was eighty yards. It is one of 92 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: the longest drives by a Seahawks opponent this year, and 93 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: you started to worry about how much cushion are you 94 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: giving those wide receivers or George Kittle. But I do 95 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: think that we saw him take some steps in the game, 96 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: even if there were some big plays allout, Yeah, for sure. 97 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: And you mentioned that past defense number earlier. I mean, 98 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: that's just a really good sign. They're just around the 99 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: ball where they're in tighter coverage where yeah, those first 100 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: few games, they're just giving up a lot of stuff, 101 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: and they were making a lot harder on them, a 102 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: lot more contested catches, a lot more balls broken up, 103 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, some big hits out of the safeties. Just again, 104 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff. And it's not gonna get 105 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: a knee easier this week, isn't. No it's not, but 106 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: you do like seeing that third down conversion number two 107 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: of fourteen for the forty nine ers, though they did 108 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: not get to third down very often on that scoring 109 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: drive to start the game, but it does show how 110 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: that defense kind of changed and they more than held 111 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: their own in the second half of the game. That 112 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: quarter back group is going to be tested this week. 113 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 1: It's not just the Rams, it is Matthew Stafford running 114 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: this offense. It has always been a challenge to go 115 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: against Sean McVeigh, but Matthew Stafford brings a new element. Well, 116 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: the system is really basically the same with different different 117 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: uh you know emphasis in terms of how much they're 118 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: doing stuff some stuff that's basically the same plays and 119 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: all you know, big, tall, hard throwing quarterback is what 120 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: both those guys are and very similar and when you 121 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: look at the game, but I think you can tell 122 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: that the coaches are really trusting Matthew and really giving 123 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: him a lot of latitude to throw the ball a 124 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: lot and spread the field. And it's obvious that they 125 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: really are excited about what he contributes. You know, he 126 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: seeing a terrific scheme, he's seeing excellent receivers the past protection. 127 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: He's been sacked three times in four games. You know, 128 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: he's you know, that's quarterback's dream. So he's they're off 129 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: to a terrific start and looks really like a It 130 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: was a great move to get him. As he said, Jen, 131 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: this offense has always been tricky. They do a really 132 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: good job scheming things up. But when you go out 133 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: and upgrade at quarterback, it just opens up that much more. 134 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: There's just more throws available for McVeigh to call now 135 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: with that arm. I mean nothing against Jared Goff, but 136 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: we're talking about one of the elite arms in the 137 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: NFL and Matthew Stafford, who can just make some crazy throws. 138 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it really makes out a scary group, 139 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: an elite arm with finally some weapons around him, something 140 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: he did not have during the course of his career 141 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: in Detroit exactly. Well, when you have a guy like 142 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, when you've got Robert Woods, you know, that 143 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: really changes things. Matthew Stafford is third in the NFL 144 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: right now. He's racked up one thousand and twenty two yards. 145 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: His attempt and completions are pretty impressive. Eleven touchdowns. That 146 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: is among the top three in the NFL, and Cooper 147 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: Cup is the most targeted wide receiver in the NFL 148 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: right now, which shouldn't be a surprise. He is always 149 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: up there, but also he is a tough matchup, like 150 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: you again, cornershe I think that this is actually where 151 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: the Ryan Neil part of this conversation takes place, right Yeah. 152 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: I mean you yeah, getting that extra defensive back on 153 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: when you talk about all the different weapons and the 154 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: ways that they can use them. I do think we're 155 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: going to see pretty I mean, obviously the situations of 156 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: the game, the down and distance, that's going to matter 157 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: a lot. But this RAMS team is throwing more than 158 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: they have in past years. Part of that the new 159 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: quarterback with part of us. Also, they're just beat up 160 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: at running back. They lost Cam Akers before the year, 161 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: a lot of the other guys they've plugged in there 162 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: are beat up. So I think we're gonna see a 163 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: more pass heavy RAMS offense than in the past. So yeah, 164 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: you'll you'll see plenty of that diamond Ryan, You'll covering guys, 165 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: but Cooper Cup in particular, I mean, that guy's just 166 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: he's a nightmare to cover. He's it just the way 167 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: they scheme things. It just thinks he's always so open 168 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: and that's why going into last weekend he was the 169 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: NFL's leading receiver that the Cardinals did a decent job 170 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: on him. Yeah, well, and he's so open downfield. But 171 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: Robert Woods is a really interesting threat because he's going 172 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: to be the one run in that fly suite. But 173 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: he could just as easily end up being the running back. 174 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: Right now, Darryl Henderson has listed as the number one 175 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: back after all of those injuries. You gotta be careful there. 176 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: And look, they also play clean football. I mean they 177 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: are the least penalized team in the NFL. Last week 178 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: they had seven penalties, which is part of what accounted 179 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: for that loss. But you can't just let these guys go. 180 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to have tight coverage early in this 181 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: one and not make any mistakes. Sounds like a good plan. 182 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: Don't mess up. You should be coach JA. I could, really, 183 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: I could give one heck of a pep talk. Here's 184 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: something that I know the coaching staff and the team 185 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: is aware of. The Rams are six and three against 186 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: Seattle since Sean McVay took over. Talk about have their number. 187 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: It has been a tough matchup. It is a tough 188 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: matchup for Russell Wilson in the offense because you've got 189 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: guys like Aaron Donald and Leonard Floyd on that defensive line. 190 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: But you know what, Russell Wilson is coming off an 191 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: incredible performance that I don't know you would have predicted 192 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: after those first couple of series. I thought it was 193 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: it was you know, it's hard to maybe see how 194 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: we appreciate what the play was like. But when you 195 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: take it out there the first series and you get dumped, 196 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: and you get sacked in the second series again and 197 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: the third series again, I mean, it's a challenge to 198 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: anybody in any any endeavor. You know, how do you 199 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: hang when you know when it starts that difficult and 200 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: uh it looks bleak and all that. And he didn't 201 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: even he didn't even falter, he didn't waiver. He hung 202 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: right there and came back just like we know him. 203 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: I always just did it again, you know, and put 204 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: together an excellent game for us, one of my favorite 205 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: games because of that, the circumstances on the road, the crowd, 206 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: all of that, the pass rush was roaring, and then 207 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: after the first three they didn't get they didn't get 208 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: him again, you know, and when he didn't need to 209 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: get out he did. When he needed to scramble to 210 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: throw it and win the game with a touchdown pass, 211 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: he did it. You know. So I was really proud 212 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: of that, that that outing, and thought it was one 213 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: of his one of his classics. I thought it was 214 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: really to me, it's one of the real special ones. 215 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: You know. It's interesting if you just looked at the 216 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: stats and he heard Pete Carroll say is one of 217 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: his favorite games, he'd be like, really, I mean they 218 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: get one hundred and forty nine yards on twenty three attempts. 219 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: That's that's nothing spectacular. But it's what he and the 220 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: offense endured early in the way they came back. I 221 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: mean five straight three and outs, three of those ended 222 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: on sacks. I mean, it just it looks so bleak 223 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 1: for the offense. He was like, man, I mean the 224 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: fourty niners defense is so good. Give them credit, but 225 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: he just like, this offense doesn't look like a can 226 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: function today. What are they going to do? So to 227 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: come around like they did and put together four touchdowns 228 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: and you know, just all the efficiency numbers were great 229 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson and then also, you know he kind 230 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: of turned back the clocks a little with his legs 231 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: that that touchdown run. He looked about as fast as 232 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: I can remember in years. And then the scramble throw 233 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: to Freddy Swain was just insane. The escape was great 234 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: and we've seen that a lot, but the throw he 235 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: made was just absurd. So yeah, I mean, when you 236 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: factor in those specific plays that were just vintage US, 237 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: with the way he and the offenses overcame such a 238 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: tough start, it was a great performance. They were, in fact, 239 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: the lowest passing numbers of the year for Russell Wilson. 240 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: You talk about that bleak start. There were no plays 241 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: longer than five yards on the first fifteen plays, and 242 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: after one quarter it was minus three. It got to 243 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: minus seven, it was one ninety four to minus seven 244 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: after the fifth three and out. But here's where we 245 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: saw a big improvement, and it's not just in the execution. 246 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: And look, I think there was some communication stuff early 247 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: across the offensive line. I think it was actually hard 248 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: to hear some of the calls. Yeah, the fans were loud. 249 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: I just think that they were not communicating loud enough. 250 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: We don't see Dwayne Brown give up a sack the 251 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: way that we did. You know, we don't see a 252 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: couple of those guys coming free the way that they 253 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: did if there weren't communication issues that got tightened up. 254 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: For a team that had yet to score in the 255 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: third quarter of a game, they scored twice. They scored 256 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: twenty one points in the second half. I don't know 257 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: how much that means, because it certainly didn't feel good 258 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: when they weren't scoring in the first quarter. But Pete 259 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: did say at halftime they found a way to get 260 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: over the hump in the second quarter, and that I 261 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: don't think he was just talking about for the game. 262 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: I think he was talking about how that offense was clicking. 263 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: And John, if you think back to when the year 264 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: started and how much we talked about what is this 265 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: new system going to look like, how long is it 266 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: going to take for a tall click? I think we 267 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: both said it was going to take three to four weeks. 268 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: Three to four weeks, which is right where we're at exactly. 269 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: And you know, the fast starts are awesome and hopefully 270 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: they can do that again. It's like, hey, why not 271 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: do both? But it's a big thing to show that 272 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: you can it's one thing to fast start. Excuse me, 273 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: it's one thing to start fast and then fade and 274 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: not recover. It's I think it's a lot more important 275 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: to be able to make those fixes in game and 276 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: adjust like they did. And now that they've shown they 277 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: can do that, I think that's really going to help 278 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: everyone's confidence and help them be better going forward. One 279 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: of the adjustments they made in game was going to 280 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: Alex Collins more than Chris Carson. And I went back 281 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: and I watched Chris Carson had the first two snaps 282 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: of the game. It's not like he wasn't involved, but 283 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: Alex Collins does bring something just a little bit different. 284 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to be curious to see how they mix 285 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: him in. But what we know for sure is Pete 286 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: was pleased. Oh it was really obvious. You know, he 287 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: had the big catch and run, which was you know, 288 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: it was easy for him, but that was a nice play. 289 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: Changed field positions, moving a little bit, but his running 290 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: was just real effective and real consistent. And then he 291 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: had the really nice touchdown run. You know, it really 292 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: was dancing through the mess and it looked great. But 293 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: Alex has really been a come through guy for us. 294 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: He's really done a nice job, and we've called on him, 295 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: and he practices really hard. He's really tuned in every 296 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: day and so it's he prepares to do well and 297 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: it happened. It was great. As you mentioned, going into 298 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: that sixth possession, they didn't have a player five yards 299 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: yet Collins comes in very first play. They designed something 300 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: nice up with some mixed direction. He's wide open, takes 301 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: a big way, and then the next two plays not 302 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: as big, but just back to back five and four 303 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: yard runs where now you're in third and short, and 304 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: the offense from there just really got going. So I 305 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: think the next play after that was a big pass 306 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: the DK metcalf on third and one. So it's just 307 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: he you know, obviously he didn't do all that himself, 308 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: but he really helped spark the offense and he does. 309 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: He just gives you a little different look that sometimes 310 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: you don't know knocker and Chris Carson obviously he's a 311 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: great player, but sometimes when it's not working, a different 312 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: style can get a defense on us. Heels a little bit, 313 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: Collins might see something more differently, just make a guy 314 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: miss and all of a sudden you're rolling. And he 315 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: looked great. I mean, there's only ten carries, so the 316 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: numbers weren't real gaudy, but that big catch he had 317 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: and then the touchdown run was super impressive. So it's 318 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: just a great weapon to have. You know, Chris Carson's 319 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: gonna get plenty of touches, but to know that you 320 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: have that in your back pocket of kind of a 321 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: change of pace, you can get the job done. That's 322 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: big for the offense. Well, and Chris Carson's a little 323 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: bit up in the air for Thursday night. He's missed 324 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: some practice time with what they are calling a neck injury. 325 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: So it's nice to have Alex Collins and then you 326 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: can mix some guys like DJ Dallas. We saw Travis 327 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: Homer get a little bit of playing time as a 328 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: as a running back last week. But I wonder for 329 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: as much as we talk about running game, and obviously 330 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: you want to establish the run first of all, that 331 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: is really tough to do against this defensive line of 332 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: the Rams. Secondly, their secondary has been giving up some 333 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: points and some yards. The defense has allowed ninety nine 334 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: points through four games and opponents are scoring on forty 335 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: four percent of their drives. So for as good as 336 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: the Rams looked through their first three games. There's some 337 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: opportunities there, and I know that there's a lot of 338 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: people looking at DK Metcalf and Jalen Ramsey, but also 339 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: with those wide receivers having fairly quiet games last week, 340 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm wondering who's going to break out on Thursday. Yeah, 341 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be interesting to see how they 342 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: attack that defense. We know that they gave them a 343 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: lot of trouble last year. It's it's a little bit 344 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: of a different defense, new coordinator, but they're still doing 345 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: a lot of the same things schematically. But you know, 346 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: do you move DK Metcalf around a lot to try 347 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: to avoid the Ramsey matchup? If you know, if Ramsey's 348 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: with Dk, do you try to exploit that with other guys? 349 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: But you're right, they've given up a lot more big plays. 350 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: They've you know, the Cardinals convert a bunch of third 351 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: and longs on him. So I think there is going 352 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: to be some opportunity there. It's just gonna be interesting 353 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: to see how it's kind of distributed. Got to wait 354 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: and see his Gerald ever going to get back. That'd 355 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: be big for the offense, and I'm sure personally he 356 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: would love to face his former team, So it's that 357 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: defense is still really talented. But I do think there's 358 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: maybe some more opportunity than last year when they're really humming. 359 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: And I cannot believe that we have gone this long 360 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: without mention named Shane Waldron facing his former team. I mean, 361 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: that's that's really kind of the overarching theme of this game, 362 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: right is how does he match up against his former team? 363 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: How much information can he give the Seahawks to kind 364 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: of help out. I know that he's going to downplay it, 365 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: but I do think it's a fun chess match to 366 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: track it is. I kind of I go back to 367 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: like my game theory I took in college when I 368 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: was studying economics of like, Okay, so he knows how 369 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: their defense would want to attack a certain thing, but 370 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: they know what he's thinking. So does he adjust or 371 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: does he not because they think he's gonna adjust what 372 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 1: he's doing. So it's fascinating to me whenever you have 373 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: these matchups of coaches who know each other know that 374 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: what kind of know what he just thinking, and then 375 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: it's just it's a fun angle. It's you know, it's 376 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: fun to see how McVay is going to handle it 377 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: because he's thinking, Okay, what kind of intel is is 378 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: a excuse me? What kind of intel is Shane Waldron? 379 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: Give him the Seahawks on us? Do we need to 380 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: change some calls? So yeah, be curus see how this 381 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: all plays out. Yeah, that game theory sounds way too confusing, 382 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: Like I like, I like the idea of it. I've tried, yeah, 383 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: long time ago. Yeah. And you know, here's the other thing. 384 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: You're on a short week. These teams know each other 385 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: from past meetings, not necessarily from what they've put on 386 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: film this year. I mean, yes, I know that both 387 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: sides have looked at all four games, but quite honestly, 388 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: you were in such a sprint to get ready for 389 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: a Thursday night game. I think in some ways it 390 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: takes a little bit of that out of it, and 391 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: it really just is going to come down to execute you. No, 392 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: that's a that's a really good point. On this short week, 393 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: it's sometimes it's a little stripped down on what you 394 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: can do schematically, and it's just who gets the job done. Well, 395 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 1: I think it is time to ask who needs to 396 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: get the job done, John Boyle, And it's time for 397 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: the two things you need to see happen, but the 398 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: Seahawks to come away with a win and move over 399 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: five hundred. I want to see the defense keep Cooper 400 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: Cup in check a little bit. I think that was 401 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: a big factor in what the Cardinals were able to 402 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: do successfully last week. The trickle down to that, I 403 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: think was just a lot of other things that that 404 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: offense struggled with when when the number one weapon wasn't going, 405 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: So let's keep him under ninety yards sounds about right 406 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. I just want to 407 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: see this no turnover street continue. That's this. One of 408 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: the things that Rams have done pretty well against Seahawks 409 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: has take the ball away more more so than other teams, 410 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: and three straight games with that turnover is big for 411 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: this offense. Just keep that going. Yeah, I would like 412 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: to see them get to Matthew Stafford. For the last 413 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: two weeks, you've got guys that are getting the ball 414 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: out so fast that pass rushing those blitz is really 415 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to get home. They did start 416 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: to affect Jimmy Garoppolo, and then when he left the 417 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: game in the second half, that changed the complexion of things. 418 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: But I'd like to see them get to Matthew Stafford, 419 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: a guy who's been sacked just three times this year, 420 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: and John, here's a stat I am going to drop 421 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: on you. It is really important the Seahawks have the 422 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: lead at halftime. I know it is not how you start, 423 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: it is how you finish. But here's what else I know. 424 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: Since twenty seventeen, the Rams are unbeaten. When they have 425 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: a lead at halftime, they are forty and oh So, 426 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: while I am sure they can buck any trend that's 427 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: out there, how about if we just grab that lead, 428 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about that. I like it. 429 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Okay, I think that's a plan. And 430 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: you know what, I think that'll do it. For this 431 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: week's edition of the Seahawks Insiders podcast, We'll see you 432 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: next time.