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Speaker 2: I tell you what, man, He's a literal titan across

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Speaker 2: He's a true icon in every sense of the word.

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Speaker 1: He's loved and feared more than any being to Grace's planet.

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Speaker 1: There got a bed with a voice that sounds like

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Speaker 1: God himself would pay thirty nine ninety nine for a cameo.

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Speaker 1: Fact of the matter is you are about to embark

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Speaker 1: on a transcendent experience that can only be described as

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Speaker 1: psychological nudity. This is stu goox, and this is Stupidity.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, Jim Hoy.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in to another episode of Stupartity, the biggest podcast

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Speaker 3: Mikey A, we are churning out a second episode of

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Speaker 3: this week.

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Speaker 4: How about that?

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Speaker 3: And we're doing it with our buddy Mark Slayrit Stink.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, very excited. Finny's very excited by what happened.

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Speaker 5: You were excited last week about three episodes and now

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Speaker 5: you're patting yourself on.

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Speaker 6: The back for two. Yes, listen, Finny going downhills too. Finny,

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Speaker 6: my dog is concerned I'm working too hard, so he is.

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Speaker 6: He's begging me, uh to just get it down to two.

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Speaker 3: I get it down to two two a week because

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Speaker 3: you know, it's interfering with my walk time, my playtime

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Speaker 3: with Finny.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: We had Kenny g on earlier this week, and we're

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Speaker 3: gonna have a stink Mark Slayrath on UH today and

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Speaker 3: so I'm very excited about that, catching up with an

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Speaker 3: old buddy. He is a master troll man. He really is.

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Speaker 3: Like Mike, you and I are Jet fans. We are

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Speaker 3: torture Jet fans. I always say the Jet fan base

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Speaker 3: is a torture fan base. That's because we are. That's

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Speaker 3: because I've been alive for forty seven years and I've

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Speaker 3: yet to see my team play in a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I've yet to see my team really accomplish anything. But

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Speaker 3: Mark Schlayrith, who went up Pat McAfee show and a

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Speaker 3: met at mcavie. Because he still hasn't responded to me

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Speaker 3: about coming on this podcast. By the way, remind me Mike, Okay,

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Speaker 3: to bring that up later, Okay, because I am gonna

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Speaker 3: torch Pat mcavie.

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Speaker 4: Okay, But he.

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Speaker 3: Went on McAfee show said something about the Jets really

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Speaker 3: say the Jets by name Jet fans because we're sensitive,

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Speaker 3: got very sensitive. They attacked him on Twitter, and Shlayrith

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Speaker 3: came back with one of the best social media trolls

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Speaker 3: of all times, with three Super Bowl rings on the

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Speaker 3: middle one, the one on his middle finger being the

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Speaker 3: one with the Broncos beat the Jets, who were up

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Speaker 3: ten nothing at half nineteen ninety seven AFC Championship game.

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Speaker 3: He stuck that finger up to show Jet.

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Speaker 4: Fans that after they beat the Jets, they went on

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Speaker 4: to win a Super Bowl. I mean, I love that.

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Speaker 5: I still remember Victor Green falling down trying to cover

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Speaker 5: ed McCaffrey in that AFC Championship game. The best part

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Speaker 5: about that troll two things. One, you saw the joke

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Speaker 5: coming from the start. The joke was coming right from

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Speaker 4: Mike.

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Speaker 3: You give it Jeff Fans way too much credit, like

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Speaker 3: they know what a joke is coming.

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Speaker 2: It was joking. It was.

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Speaker 5: So good. It was such a good troll job that

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Speaker 5: every former player and probably current player commended him on Twitter,

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Speaker 5: not for not for the story now, but just because

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Speaker 5: it was the best troll job they wish they thought

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Speaker 5: of themselves to come back at all the people that

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Speaker 5: said you hate our team, You're the worst, and he

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Speaker 5: just every single former player you know, was.

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Speaker 4: Like, thank you, yeah, because that was a great job.

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Speaker 3: Well, he did it, and he did it well. It

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Speaker 3: What are you going to say to the guy? Right like,

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Speaker 3: he's got that. Listen, you could send that out teams,

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Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna say that to him when he

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Speaker 4: comes to the JO I dare you too, though, I

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Speaker 4: dare you. I'll bet you he'll tell you he won.

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Speaker 3: It for Lway, right, Oh, there's no doubt. Do you

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Speaker 3: realized more, Joe, do you ask him?

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Speaker 4: Do you think Mark Slavery? Do you does does stink

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Speaker 4: think l Way won him a couple of Super Bowls?

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Speaker 4: Or he won Elway a couple of Mike, we have

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Speaker 3: Way, because I'm with you, I think he thinks that

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Speaker 3: he won Lway two super Bowls that had he been there, Okay,

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Speaker 3: when Elway made three consecutive super Bowls, he would have

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Speaker 4: They won it with the run game. Where does the

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Speaker 4: run game start up front? That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: I think schle Eth was winning super bowls with Washington,

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Speaker 4: I think you're welcome Elway. I think you're right.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, by the way, before Stink joins

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Speaker 3: us here, did you hear the comments from from Chris

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Speaker 3: Simms our boys going to join us before the draft? Mike,

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Speaker 3: he examines quarterbacks for a living. He's really really good

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Speaker 3: at this.

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Speaker 4: He said.

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Speaker 3: Zach Wilson, whom you do not like, mikey a, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I happen to like. He said he thought Zack Wilson

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Speaker 3: was the best quarterback in this draft, better than Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: How about that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, listen, it gives me a glimmer of hope,

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Speaker 5: but that just means the fall is going to be

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Speaker 5: like Chris Simms is going to be like at the

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Speaker 5: end of his career. He's going to be like I

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Speaker 5: was right about ninety nine out of one hundred quarterbacks

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Speaker 5: that I said was going to be the best right

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Speaker 5: be Zach Wiltson.

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Speaker 4: He'll learn his lesson.

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Speaker 3: Zach Wilson might very well be the best quarterback in

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Speaker 4: Let's break out our buddies, thick.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that was that is that you didn't have the

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Speaker 2: Google I was on Google Meets Now listen, Mark, let's

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Speaker 4: The problem is we're fucking old. That's a problem.

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Speaker 2: That part.

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Speaker 7: That part, I have no clue what I'm doing.

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Speaker 5: Your granddaughter is holding the camera, isn't she? What's that

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Speaker 7: Dude, I'm just on my I'm just on my freaking phone.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I got like, I've got this new Twitch

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Speaker 2: channel that Trey and I are starting, and I don't

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Speaker 2: know how, I don't know anything. We had this. We

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Speaker 2: acronyms and ship at me and I have no clue

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Speaker 2: what they're calling. I'm like, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Just tell me when they start talking, right, stay.

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Speaker 2: I go. If you can just set me up with

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Speaker 2: a computer that has an on and off switch. And

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Speaker 2: I want to why, like I do the light switch

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 5: And better yet if it could not have an off switch?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 3: Help what he wants? And he's old school and that's

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Speaker 3: this is why I love him. He wants a switch.

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Speaker 3: It needs to be an actual switch. He doesn't want

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Speaker 3: to push a button. He doesn't want to turn something

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Speaker 3: like you turned something on it off right.

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Speaker 7: A hundred percent?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Let you know, speaking of which, let me put

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Speaker 2: my phone on airplane mode because he knew that was

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 4: What is airplane mode? And why?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Airplane mode?

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Speaker 2: Because somebody's calling me and you guys go off screen

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Speaker 2: and now I'm I'm stick.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised you do it, and thank you for doing this.

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Speaker 3: And it's great sitting you. I'm surprised you're doing it

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Speaker 3: right after you do mornings. And I'm surprised you're doing

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Speaker 3: it right after the show because I'm telling you, there

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Speaker 3: are shows I have driven home in silence. I spoke

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Speaker 3: How the hell are you doing this thing?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Well it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Like my big thing in local radio here, Stu is like,

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Speaker 2: I'm always, I'm always really like listen, ninety nine percent

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Speaker 2: I'm not looking to, you know, be earth shattering or

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Speaker 2: don't give a shit. I just do it to entertain myself, right,

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Speaker 2: And as long as I think I'm funny and I'm

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Speaker 2: So you know, and we know, it's not like we're

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Speaker 2: in depth. I mean we're in depth. We're at Denver Station.

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Speaker 2: Denver's a really interesting market because you know, the Nuggets

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Speaker 7: It's not a college football town.

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Speaker 2: It's not a Nuggets town, it's not an Avalanche town,

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Speaker 2: and frankly, it's not a Rockies town. Although to the

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Speaker 7: So for me, I come on and talk about Broncos.

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Speaker 2: Even when the Nuggets are making a playoff push and

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Speaker 2: nobody gives a writ. It's all about the Broncos. So

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Speaker 2: it literally is like I come in and steel for

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Speaker 2: there's not a lot of not that I have a

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Speaker 2: lot of brain power anyhow, I'm a general studies major

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Speaker 2: from the University of Idaho. So the let me just

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Speaker 2: preface this whole conversation by saying, no specific question, Stu gotts,

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Speaker 2: just general questions. I can answer a general question. Anything's

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Speaker 2: specific I'm going to struggle with. That's not my educational background.

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Speaker 2: My education is an inch deep and a mile wide, right.

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Speaker 7: And I just the surface.

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Speaker 2: I just have a surface understanding of how things work.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's one more inch than my education. By the way,

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Speaker 4: that's a good. That's a good all right, So keep

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Speaker 4: it light. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So here's the problem with me.

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Speaker 3: I co host with Levantar, and he's always making me

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Speaker 4: Oh god, the great Marx Layre.

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Speaker 3: Are you sitting in the famed chair now that you

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Speaker 4: Congratulations to you, Mark.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Mike, your producer, my dear friend, is been

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Speaker 2: They are not making something because it doesn't work or

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Speaker 7: Yes, right, you suck.

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Speaker 7: That are but hurt, like the Jets that haven't won anything.

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Speaker 2: You can talk in generalities about things that you think

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Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is if you construct a roster

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Speaker 3: Did you have to put the ninety seven ring on

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Speaker 7: It just worked out that way, you know, Stake.

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Speaker 2: So instead of justice, instead of being mad at me,

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Speaker 2: that thirty nine turnovers and turn it down to about

439
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 2: fifteen to seventeen, you're gonna go ten and six, eleven

440
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 2: and five and have a chance to win that division.

441
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened. So they had this great team,

442
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: great supporting cast.

443
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 7: And by the way, I think they've got all twenty

444
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 7: two starters coming back.

445
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it's amazing what Jason light the general manager

446
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 2: of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, what Brouce Arian's been able

447
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 2: to do.

448
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 7: They're a phenomenal football team, a lot of fun to watch.

449
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 5: So all that being said, Stu is too chicken to

450
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 5: ask the question, So I will did Elway win you

451
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 5: two Super Bowls? Or did you win la Super Bowls?

452
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 3: This is the debate, this debate we were having right

453
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 3: before you came on the air.

454
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Speaker 4: We didn't know who was gonna ask the question. I

455
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 4: have no balls, Mike does that? Yeah?

456
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So uh let me ask you what was Elway's

457
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 2: record the Super Bowls? Before I got it?

458
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Speaker 3: I told you, Mike, I told you how he even

459
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Speaker 3: respond I told you all on three yeah, three.

460
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Speaker 2: Okay, listen again, you have to look at you have

461
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 2: to look at the history. Lway in Super Bowl thirty

462
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 2: two against Green Bay Packers had the worst quarterback rating

463
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Speaker 2: in the history of the Super Bowl for the guy

464
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Speaker 2: who won the Super Bowl at that point, he was

465
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Speaker 2: I mean he was.

466
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Speaker 4: It was.

467
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Speaker 7: It was not a good game, but it wasn't our

468
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 7: game plan.

469
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Speaker 2: So I would say that Elway unselfishly played the role

470
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Speaker 2: that he was asked to play for us to win

471
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. So you look at again, this comes

472
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 2: back to whole the you know, chicken or egg type

473
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Speaker 2: of thing. Is it?

474
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Speaker 7: The team we had had a great group up front.

475
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 2: We had two of the best blocking receivers, but two

476
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: of the best receivers in football. We had Shannon Sharp,

477
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: you know, Rod Smith, Eddie McCaffrey. We understood what we were,

478
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 2: We had an identity, we knew how we were gonna win,

479
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: and we had Terrell Davis who won the Super Bowl

480
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 2: MVP the following year in ninety eight. That season, you

481
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Speaker 2: got to understand that John Alway missed four starts, but

482
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Speaker 2: he missed almost six total games because he had a

483
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 2: bad hamstring that he pulled, and Bubby Brister came in

484
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 2: and he steered that ship six to zero during that time,

485
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 2: and people just tend to forget that. So again, my

486
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 2: thing is John is one of the greatest quarterbacks that's

487
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 2: ever played the game. There is no question about that.

488
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,239
Speaker 2: John wasn't the same at the end that he was

489
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: in the beginning when he's Dragon teams to the Super Bowl.

490
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Speaker 2: But John had a much better overall organization around him.

491
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 2: And again that just goes back to my whole football philosophy.

492
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 2: Dominated the line of scrimmage. Control the line of scrimmage

493
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: takes some pressure. Let that guy make big plays. You know.

494
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: John once told me, hey man, your guys' job is

495
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: first and second down. My job is to convert on third.

496
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: That's what That's what I'm here for. And and so ultimately,

497
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 2: I think you have to look at football in its

498
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: totality and the complementary nature of what we have to

499
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 2: do as an offensive defense and special teams to be

500
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: able to have a good football team.

501
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Speaker 3: Would La respond the same way.

502
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Speaker 2: Absolutely no, absolutely, Ola, I knew exactly, I mean alway

503
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: they had Mike Shannhan and Lway had a meeting where

504
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: Mike was like, hey, listen, man, you're not going to

505
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 2: be in Super Bowl three two, You're not going to

506
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: be Super Bowl MVP, and always like I don't give

507
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: a shit. I just want to win, Like I just

508
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: want to win. Like the game plan that we're going

509
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: to put together, the way to attack the Green Bay

510
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: Packers is like one of the things we did, and

511
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: this will get a little bit too deep into the woods,

512
00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 2: but but we got into base personnel and we we

513
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: ran We ran eighteen ninety handoff out of slot. So

514
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 2: what that means is, so if we got into a

515
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: strong right slot, so then we ran like eighteen handoff strong.

516
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: And what the Green Bay Packers consistently did. I had

517
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: this conversation with Brett Farveers, great conversation and I'll tell

518
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 2: you exactly what he said. What they always did to

519
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 2: that is their outside linebacker. But I'm a Brian Williams

520
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: would kick out what I would call a hip look,

521
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: meaning he gets extended where he normally would line up,

522
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: he moves outside of that by two by two yards

523
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: because he becomes accept Essentially he exchanges the responsibility with

524
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: the free safety or the safety on that side right

525
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: and he becomes the safety, and now the safety comes

526
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 2: in and becomes run support. And so whenever we would

527
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: get that formation, they did it one hundred percent of time.

528
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 2: And we would turn over the weak side linebacker to

529
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 2: our slot receiver who was Eddie McCaffer, and then we

530
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: would scoop up to the backside safety and that was

531
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 2: Leroy Butler, and we would crush him. And what ended

532
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: up happening is it was on film, was one hundred

533
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: percent of the time. So we lined up on that

534
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: and we absolutely gutted them because every other team was

535
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: chasing the will linebacker and Leroy Butler was just having

536
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: tackling practice in everybody's backfield and we, I mean, we

537
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: literally gutted them on that one play. And we ran

538
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: it over and over and over again.

539
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 7: From different formations, different motions.

540
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: Everything you could imagine, but it was the same damn

541
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: play one after the other. It was eighteen handoff, nineteen handoff,

542
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: eighteen handoff, nineteen hands and we're gutting the Green Bay

543
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 2: Packers and so Brett barbhim telling him the story and

544
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: he goes, he looked at me and goes, did we

545
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: ever adjust. I was like, no, he never did.

546
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 4: We kept running and Brett.

547
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: Right, But that's that is that is the arc if

548
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: you will game planning, and that's where Mike Shannon has said, Hey.

549
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 7: John, this is how we're gonna win this game.

550
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: We'll set up a couple of play actions off of this,

551
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: but this is how we're gonna win this game. And

552
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: and we adhere to that. It worked. It was exactly

553
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: the way Mike Shanahan in meetings said it was gonna

554
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: happen on This is what's what we're gonna do.

555
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 7: This is way we're gonna line up.

556
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 2: This is what they're gonna do to adjust to it,

557
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: and this is why we're gonna crush them. And great

558
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: like to me, great offensive coordinators and guys who call plays.

559
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: There are play callers and then there are callers of offense.

560
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: And some guys just call plays and they'll have great

561
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 2: games because all the plays will line up the way

562
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 2: they thought they were gonna work. And some guys call

563
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: an offense. And the guys who call an offense are brilliant. Right,

564
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: they're calling one play because they know four plays from now,

565
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: they're gonna run the ad jump to that play. And

566
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: they're gonna get them on an explosive twenty five plus

567
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 2: yards because of the way they call that and the

568
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: way they lined up to it, the way they try

569
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: to defend it. Those guys are calling place four or

570
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 2: five plays ahead, and they're only a handful of those

571
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: guys that are really good at what they do. Other

572
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: guys just call plays.

573
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: Who's the best you've ever seen at that mark?

574
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 7: Kyle Shannan's phenomenal.

575
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 2: Because Kyle and I've had players on his roster tell

576
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: me like he will tell you in a meeting.

577
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 7: He's like, Okay, this is what we're gonna call. This

578
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 7: is why we're gonna call it.

579
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: This is the buy in that I need from you,

580
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: and here's what's going to happen. We're gonna call this

581
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: run and this run isn't worth a shit, but we're

582
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: gonna call it six times, and you know we're gonna

583
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: average on this run two yards of carry. But guess what,

584
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: tight end, If you sell out for me, I'm gonna

585
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: get you a twenty five plus yard explosive maybe for

586
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: a TV and Z receiver. If you do it, I'm

587
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: gonna get you a twenty five yard explosive and maybe

588
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: a TD and EX receiver. If you do it and

589
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: you sell out in that run that gets us two yards,

590
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you an explosive And as sure as

591
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here talking to you, it unfolds exactly that

592
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: way in the game, and everybody knows. If we buy

593
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: into this crappy play that we're gonna run six times,

594
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: every one of us is gonna get to eat and

595
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: we're gonna win this game. And it and Mike was

596
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: the same way. Mike would tell us on Thursday, We're

597
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: gonna get him with this, like this touchdown right here.

598
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: If you go back to Super Bowl thirty three against

599
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons, we run this, we run this past

600
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: eighteen handoff and on the sideline they've got Mike Shanahan

601
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: miked up, and we call the play and they line

602
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: up and Mike on the sideline goes, oh, we got him, touchdown.

603
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: We got him.

604
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 4: That's so cool.

605
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: Like before we snap the ball, and I've seen Kyle

606
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: do it a million times, and I talked to Kyle

607
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: about it before I call the San Francisco game. He goes,

608
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: you know how many times, Like Kyle is the last

609
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: person like at this, Kyle is the last person in

610
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: NFL history to hold the cord of the head coach

611
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: in a Super Bowl because after that Super Bowl Super

612
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: Bowl thirty three, they went to cordless headsets, so he's

613
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: the last cord holder in a Super Bowl. Kyle Shanahan

614
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: is and he goes, you know how many times I've

615
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: seen my dad go, oh, we got him touchdown? And

616
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: then it happens and Kyle does the same shit. It's

617
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: got to drive people crazy, right, But what.

618
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 4: Drives me crazy?

619
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: He's not my coach.

620
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 7: Hey man, I'm in Denver and we interviewed him.

621
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: He's not my coach. He's a three player, So yeah,

622
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: I'm just a nuts hu sees.

623
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Speaker 5: Dude, that's the problem is we hired Adam Gase who

624
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 5: was thinking four and five years ahead as opposed to

625
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 5: four and five plays ahead.

626
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 4: Mark.

627
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 5: One of the best parts about doing the job that

628
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 5: I get to do is I get to meet so

629
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 5: many former athletes who have been there. And I remember

630
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 5: going into meeting you thinking in the huddle it was serious.

631
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 5: You walked up to the huddle and it was I'm

632
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 5: gonna tell you what to do and you're gonna do it,

633
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 5: and everybody's serious face. And then I meet your goofy ass.

634
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 5: Can you tell some of the some of the games

635
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 5: you guys used to play in the huddle, because it

636
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 5: just it always made me laugh that we think it's

637
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 5: so serious and you guys are just having the time

638
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 5: of your life.

639
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: Right. Look.

640
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 7: So so I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna tell you

641
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 7: two things.

642
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: One happened today and it brought back, It brought back

643
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: this great memory. I am a I'm a child of

644
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: the eighties man, and when I was in college, eighties

645
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: alternative was big. So the Smiths, the smith of Rings, Secure,

646
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: you know, English beat, you name it. That's that is

647
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: still That's all I listened to. I listened to that's

648
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: the eighties alternative stuff. Right.

649
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 7: And so I'm driving and I'm driving into.

650
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: Work this morning at five o'clock in the morning, and

651
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: the song pop music comes on by m and you

652
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: know I have one hit.

653
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 7: Wonder talk about pop music to humid up.

654
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: I want to dedicate it London, Paris, Niche, everybody talk

655
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: about the pop music talk about So there is a stake.

656
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: I want you to perform an a Tires eighties concert

657
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: next time you come on this fucking podcast was that

658
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: was magical.

659
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: Okay, So you're working, you're working a combination block on

660
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: a tight zone play on the front side. So let's

661
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: say this is my center and this is my left guard, right,

662
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: and they've got a tilt nose guard in there. That's

663
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: a really hard reach block on like a fifteen handoff

664
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: for the center. That's a hard block for the center.

665
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: And if you want to call pop, was what we

666
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: call this a full block, right, So the guard can

667
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: come off and hit that one technique that that noseguard

668
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: and the center can drop step around and go for

669
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: the middle linebacker. And that's a technique. It's a full

670
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: block technique. We used to call it pop when I

671
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: was in Denver and we would do stuff in like

672
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: practice in games where I have literally been sitting online

673
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: scrimmage and we're running fifteen hand off week or fifteen

674
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: hand off strong and Tom Naland goes shoot me, do

675
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: me do up? And I know instantly, I know instantly

676
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: he's talking about he wants to he wants to fold

677
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: block this, he wants to run pop. So I get

678
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: he goes shooty, do do up? And I go, I

679
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: want to dedicate it, right, in a game and we

680
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: know we're full blocking something, right, we don't ever say

681
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: the word pop or fold because everybody knows what fold is.

682
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: Everybody anybody who plays defense that well, I shouldn't say

683
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: anybody because a lot of defensive players are really dumb.

684
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: But let's let's just say most guys would know if

685
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: we said fold. They know exactly what was coming, and

686
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: the nosegar would play into me right and make it hard.

687
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: But nobody knows what shooty do on. So I'll tell

688
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: you the game that I love those two guys. I

689
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: still play it with my kids all the time. It

690
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: started playing it in Washington. We would play it during

691
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: TV timeouts in the hub, and it's the it's the

692
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: oh really game. So the oh really game is I

693
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: would say something intentionally wrong that you would know is incorrect.

694
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: It hopes to get you to correct me, and then

695
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: as soon as you correct me, I get right in

696
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: your face and go, oh really, you don't instance. We

697
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: could be in it. We could be in a a

698
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: TV timeout and we're sitting there and the music is

699
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: playing in the background, right, and we're listening to.

700
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 7: Music, and it's let's say it's ACDC.

701
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: Back in Black. They're playing, right, the whole audience is

702
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: you know, everybody, you can hear it. You're just standing

703
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: there and waiting for the come back from commercial break

704
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: right and ACDC black Back in Black is playing, And

705
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: I would lean over to Tommy Nalen, or to Tony Jones,

706
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: or to Gary Zimmerman, and I'd be like, dude. When

707
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: I was in high school, we used to get jazzed

708
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: up before wrestling meets to this. This is my favorite

709
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 2: Nazareth song. They don't get me to go Nazareth, this

710
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: is a cy DC and I go, oh real. So

711
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: we would we would constantly play oh really. We would

712
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: play the Karate chop game all the time, like where

713
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: you just look and go what the and get the

714
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: guy to turn his neck and and then you chop

715
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: him in the neck. And so even my kids and

716
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 2: I still play.

717
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 7: My kids are in the thirties now.

718
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: My youngest is twenty eight, and if I do that,

719
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: every one of my kids.

720
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 7: Would cover their neck.

721
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: Because they know they're gonna get chopped.

722
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 7: And so it's a it's a constant game.

723
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: It goes on twenty four to seven, and you always

724
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: got to be on your toes.

725
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 4: Oh so good.

726
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 3: All right, We're uh, we're gonna play a quick game,

727
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: even gracious with your time.

728
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: We want to get you out of here.

729
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: A quick game that we like to call stink or swim. Okay, ok,

730
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: stink or swim my things. You're gonna say stink to

731
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: every one of these, Is that, right, Mike, all the

732
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 3: disgusting ones? Yes, Okay, peeing in the shower stink or swim.

733
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 7: Oh stink.

734
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: Dude.

735
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 2: You know, honestly, you interrupt your game for a second.

736
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 2: You used to do this all the time in college.

737
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: Not very often in the pros, but the Golden shower shower,

738
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: so one of the things you would always do in

739
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 2: the shower, you know, and three or four other guys

740
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: would be in on it. You would walk up to

741
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: another player who was taking a shower, and you get

742
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 2: to the point where it's almost uncomfortable, but you're like, hey, man,

743
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: what happened on that fifteen handoff in the game?

744
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 7: Da da da dah? We like what happened on that?

745
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 2: And then they'll get into you like, oh my god,

746
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: I had this one technique and why they're explaining it

747
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: you're pissing on their leg.

748
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 4: Right, and you're like what's the matter with you, guys?

749
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then everybody, everybody is in on it. Everybody's

750
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: stinger in and you just, I mean, you're just full

751
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: ladder release over. This's leg.

752
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 7: He's really serious about explaining.

753
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: Something that you don't give a shit about. Right, that's

754
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: called the Golden shower.

755
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: Shower Oh my god, but you never did that that

756
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 3: whl way like I imagine that way in the shower

757
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: with the red jersey on.

758
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 7: Yeah no, no not.

759
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: Mark's lay with us a quick game here of stinkers

760
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: swim about being in the pool. Stinker swim, oh stink. Obviously,

761
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: Drew Lock is a starting quarterback in the NFL. Stink

762
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 3: or swim?

763
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 4: Uh?

764
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 7: I stink right now? He is because you don't have

765
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 7: an option?

766
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 4: Do you think he's okay?

767
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: Somebody asked me. Somebody asked me, like, uh, like answer

768
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: the question like or something to the effect of, what

769
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: do you think of Lock or trade for Teddy Bridgewater?

770
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 4: Like?

771
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: What like the answer Lock or Bridgewater? I go, what's

772
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: the question? How do we be mediocre? Right? How would

773
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: be eight?

774
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: Like?

775
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 7: Is that the question?

776
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: Because we can go either way? Be eight? Eight? But anyhow, yeah, no,

777
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: I he is now.

778
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 7: But he's not like he's got a lot of work

779
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 7: to do.

780
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 3: Okay, you listen, that was that was masterful the way

781
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: you avoided answering that question. You knew what I was

782
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 3: asking you. Okay, two of the quarters, how about swim? Okay,

783
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: two of the thank you. Two of the quarterbacks in

784
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: this NFL draft will have Hall of Fame careers.

785
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 4: Stink or swim.

786
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 2: Swim?

787
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 5: Really see, he just said, Zach Wilson's not gonna be

788
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 5: a Hall of Famer because you going to the jackson.

789
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 4: Fans got him.

790
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 2: Jacksonville has drafted the top ten I think in the

791
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 2: last ten years. I think they have seven or eight

792
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: top ten picks. Like I don't know about that. I

793
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: don't know about that guy either. Like Jacksonville is where

794
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: you go when you want your career to die. Like

795
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: so yeah, we'll.

796
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 3: See yeah right in fact, when my career is over,

797
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: that's the plan, me and Vasellia doing Anthony Drives in Jacksonville.

798
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 4: Went, I'm talking to it.

799
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: All yeah right, knocked, all right, von Miller will retire

800
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: as a lifelong Bronco.

801
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 7: Stinker's with Uh, I'm gonna say, swim.

802
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 4: Okay, this is this is it?

803
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 7: This is his last year here?

804
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 4: Really? Wow? This year.

805
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: I'm surprised he is here this year.

806
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 4: Okay, why are you surprised?

807
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: Because I thought they would I knew. I just knew

808
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: in my heart he was going to take a pay cut.

809
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: And I thought they would ask him to take a

810
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: pay cut, which they did, and he said no, and

811
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: I thought they would release him, and they decided they

812
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: decided to pay uh this last year of his contract.

813
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: But I think this is it?

814
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 4: All right?

815
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 3: A couple more, get you out here eating food off

816
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: the floor, stink or.

817
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 4: Swim oh, stink. Ye.

818
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 2: I'll walk down. I'll walk down a whole way, you know,

819
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: hotel and see a role that maybe hasn't been eating.

820
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: I'll grab it off one of the room service trades

821
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: that's on the floor.

822
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 4: Come on more.

823
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the golden towers. You're like, eat that, y'all

824
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: take it to my room?

825
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, do you limit it to just Brad?

826
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 3: What if there's a couple of fries dangling there?

827
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: Like usually it's like if there's a fruit cup that

828
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 2: really hasn't been eaten or maybe you know something like that.

829
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll get on that right all right?

830
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 3: Two more, you're done? The Chiefs will win at least

831
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: two more Super Bowls in the next ten years. Stink

832
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 3: or swim?

833
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 7: God, I swim. I hope not. You know, the white

834
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 7: hot intensive a thousand sons. I don't want to have to.

835
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 2: Live here with the Chiefs winning two more Super Bowls

836
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: in ten years.

837
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, ten years. It's a long time man.

838
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, Probably they probably will, which this

839
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: is painful to even admit.

840
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 4: Uh, stink or swim. The Jets will ever? Will they

841
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 4: ever win a Super Bowl?

842
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: I'm not in our lifetime, but I you know, I

843
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 2: mean there's always, there's always just my son have a chance.

844
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 7: Yes, your son has a chance?

845
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: Okay, eating Rocky Mountain oysters? Stinker swim that's a swim?

846
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 4: Really wow?

847
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 7: Well, I mean I have never I've never done it.

848
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. Would I eat a Rocky Mountain?

849
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: I would if I sat down and we had them, like,

850
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: I wouldn't order them. But if it was like, hey,

851
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 2: you gotta eat one, would I do it? Yeah? Of course?

852
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 4: I will, all right, last one farding under the cover.

853
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 4: Stink or swim.

854
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: Oh that's a stink I meant and Dutch evan in myself.

855
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: Everybody likes the flavor.

856
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 7: Everybody likes their own flavor.

857
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm always I'm always I always.

858
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 7: Want I gotta test it out, see what I've see.

859
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: If it's true, There's no fucking better way to end.

860
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 3: You're tired, You've not done five hours of radio. Get

861
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: the hell out of him, my friend. All right, guys begin,

862
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 3: Holy shit, Mike Stink was good, no pun intender. And

863
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: by the way, Mikey, let me.

864
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 4: Just tell you this. He I'm serious. You asked the

865
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 4: questions a great job out of you. Did you win

866
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: Elway two super Bowls? And did he win you two

867
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 4: super Bowls?

868
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 3: But at least give me the credit for telling you

869
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 3: exactly how Stink would have responded to that question.

870
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 7: You.

871
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 5: I didn't even consider it that way. I just thought

872
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 5: he'd be like, oh, no, we ran the ball, I

873
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 5: won the super Bowls. But you you had it pinpointed.

874
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 5: He's gonna say, no, he lost before I got there,

875
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 5: and he won when I got there.

876
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so many people don't know. Elway was owing three

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Speaker 3: and super Bowls before Stink got there. Elway was owing

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Speaker 3: three before Stein got there, and then Stink got there

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Speaker 3: and he won him two and he just held top

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Speaker 3: one of them on his middle finger to the entire

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Speaker 3: jet fan base.

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Speaker 4: Stemodity