1 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Hey there, Fanaritos, and welcome to part two of our 2 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: interview with Juan Pablo de Pache who played my on 3 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: screen husband in Fuller House, Fernando. If you fell in 4 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,319 Speaker 1: love with Fernando on Fuller House like Kimmy did, you're 5 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: sure to be head over heels after this interview because 6 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: JP is truly the best. 7 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: So let's get into it. 8 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: I didn't realize how personal it was, Like I just 9 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: thought this was you know, you were enthusiastic about making 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: your own film, But then we get there. 11 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: It was your own film, it was your story. 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I didn't I didn't make that connection until until, 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, a few scenes into the film. But what 14 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: an emotional experience. When did you start creating this writing it? 15 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I know what inspired it, your 16 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: own life. But tell tell me how this all came about. 17 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: How long had you been working on it? 18 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 4: Well? Thank you first of all for all the beautiful 19 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 4: wave of love that I just received. You're so amazing 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 4: and sweet, and for me, it was really important to 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: have you there because, like you say, you know we 22 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 4: are family, and and I know that I've been banging 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 4: on this. Ah, this movie, this movie, this movie, for years. 24 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 4: I mean we're talking twenty twenty. Really we had we 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 4: had it finished shooting in November nineteen, then the. 26 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 5: World you know, and then and then twenty twenty game right, 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 5: and all our very big plans went. 28 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: To exactly and we can so well can's we finished 29 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 4: the show and so and so then it was one 30 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 4: of that year of it. But yeah, it was around 31 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 4: that time that I mean, I'd always, like I said, 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 4: I'd always always always wanted to be to direct, and 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 4: since those days as a five year old watching the Oscars, 34 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 4: you know, with my grandma. But but it's kind of 35 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 4: became a need. It became like I have to do this. 36 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 4: I don't know, sometimes in life you have those moments 37 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 4: of us if I don't do this now, like like 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 4: it's now or never kind of thing. And so yeah, yeah, 39 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 4: it was it was out of a couple of things, 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: like but mostly I wanted to make my first film 41 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 4: so that I continue to do doing my second and 42 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 4: third and fourth. Uh And And it wasn't that I like, 43 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 4: I didn't want to take my own life. I didn't 44 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 4: want to kind of say, oh I want to do 45 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 4: a movie about me, But it was really I wanted 46 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 4: to have every detail of what I was going to tell. 47 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 4: I wanted to know, right, I want to know every character, 48 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 4: every situation, the places, the feelings, the the moment mins them. 49 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 4: So so yeah, I think it was a mixture of 50 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 4: talking to a friend and her asking me about what 51 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 4: my first love was, how that happened, and also going 52 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 4: to my parents' home while we were all quarantining, and 53 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: just as you do, watching albums and going through and 54 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 4: finding this tape the VHS tape in their VCR and anyway, 55 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 4: without spoiling anything, this tape was very well. It was 56 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: very important because it was a time when I was 57 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: in that school that I told you about the United 58 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 4: World College, and something had just happened that broke a 59 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: lot of this heart. One of the kids had to 60 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: leave the school and you could see it in this tape. 61 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 4: It was very You could see the pain of these teenagers, 62 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: but also are all we are all trying to make 63 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 4: him feel better. And I just thought there's something here, 64 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: and so this idea of teenage longing and and also 65 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: how you feel everything so much more when you were 66 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 4: that age. 67 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 5: Because it's all the first time, like I've never had 68 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 5: a broken heart before. This is I think it's going 69 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 5: to kill me. Yeah, like all those feelings are. 70 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's all amplified, and you don't like you say, 71 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 4: you know, you haven't been there and you're not a 72 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 4: child anymore, but you're not an adult yet. So it's 73 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 4: the transitional moment, which which is why we have so 74 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: many coming of age stories because it's an incredibly interesting time. Yeah, 75 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: and in my case, I thought, okay, how can I 76 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 4: make it so that it's actually the adult looking back? 77 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 4: Add that memory of falling in love, and so the 78 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 4: idea of a film director making a movie about his 79 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: first love and being obsessed and frustrated with this movie 80 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 4: that can't quite he can't quite finish. So then yeah, 81 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 4: I created this meta meta movie which is a man 82 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 4: making a movie about a memory and is sort of 83 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 4: like a Russian doll. Straight. 84 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a great description, a Russian doll. Yeah, 85 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: it's it's just stunning. So explain for our listeners, just 86 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: a very brief synopsis. You play the older version of Matthias, 87 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: but most of the film is it revolves around young Matthias, 88 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: who is you as a young boy going to this 89 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: international college in Italy. 90 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, so it's basically this film director who's struggling 91 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: to finish a movie about his memory of his first love, 92 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 4: of this kid, best friend he met when he was 93 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 4: at a boarding school twenty five years earlier. And of 94 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 4: course we go back into the past and we actually 95 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 4: understand or at least get the crumbs of what happened. 96 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 4: And what happened is that it was a very tumultuous, unsaid, 97 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: unrequited thing, but at the same time very enigmatic because 98 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: this boy, Alexander was incredibly loving and interesting and crazy 99 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 4: and talented and so young. Matias was probably the opposite, 100 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: you know, super shy, and so Alexander, this ball of energy, 101 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 4: was obviously the you know, the one person that he 102 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: felt seen by. And so so yeah, something happens in 103 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 4: the school and Alexander has to leave and that kind 104 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 4: of jump start really these feelings getting amplified, and and yeah, 105 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: so so so really it's an exploration of the relationship 106 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: between the adult and the teenager and and how sometimes 107 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 4: when you can't quite give an ending to something love 108 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 4: and and that relationship which just can't happen or or 109 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 4: it doesn't or hasn't happened fully, now you can actually 110 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 4: mess you up in the present. So it's it's like 111 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 4: it's like dealing with the trauma you could see where 112 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 4: this one thing can actually inform the rest of your life. 113 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, very psychological, very psychological, but it's true. 114 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 5: It's you know, we sort of get hung up on 115 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 5: like one thing and that becomes somehow it influences all 116 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 5: of the rest of our choices about ourselves and the 117 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 5: world that we create. 118 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: You know. 119 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: But it's such a visceral film, like you really feel 120 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 1: all of these emotions that the characters are going through. 121 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: It's just very powerful, like you just the audience was 122 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: you could feel it, you know. And there's one particular 123 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: scene I would love to talk about, the scene in 124 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: the car with the parents, which I think is just 125 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: the heart of the film. 126 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: And it was your actual mom. 127 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 5: No, not that she's playing well the older mom, you 128 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 5: I know, playing the old Yeah, he's the older but 129 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 5: like she does play a part in it, and like 130 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 5: that was so incredible. She's not in this scene, but 131 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 5: I just yeah, anyway. 132 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 2: Sorry, no, no, that's okay, Yeah, yeah, you're you're actual. 133 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: We'll get to those easterings, we. 134 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: Get to those just so incredible because she's like in 135 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: her art studio, creating in your health. 136 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: It was just very cool, so cool. 137 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: But the car scene, I don't want to I don't 138 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: want to give it away, but it is such a 139 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: power powerful scene. 140 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: Rheumatias breaks down in tears and the. 141 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: The mom essentially says we love you exactly the way 142 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: you are. What was it like for you to film 143 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: that scene and to watch the actors perform that scene? 144 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 4: It was It was hard. It's kind of painful because 145 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 4: I got there's some scenes in the movie that I 146 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 4: would say are almost exactly as they happened in my 147 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 4: memory anyway, and that one is one of them. Like, 148 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 4: and it didn't work. I don't think the movie would work. 149 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 4: So so it to be like, I put so much 150 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: weight on this scene because yeah, you're right, it's in 151 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: the middle of the film and it's the heart of film, pivotal, pivotal, 152 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 4: and the world changes after this scene. Yeah so, and 153 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 4: we don't see it coming either, no, like out of nowhere. Really, 154 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 4: So I love playing with these shifts of direction when 155 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 4: it comes to storytelling, that you think something's going this 156 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 4: way and then oh no, you know, And I think 157 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: the movie does that like three four times but this 158 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:17,479 Speaker 4: particular one, it was it was a scene that explains 159 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: a lot of things that you've been sensing, don't know, 160 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: and then this kind of just opens everything up. So yeah, 161 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: I mean shooting it was uncomfortable. I was in the 162 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: back of the car. It was a it was a 163 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: so the dop director of photography, Devin Douleval, my co 164 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 4: director andres Pepiestrada. Obviously the actors were all bunched up 165 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 4: in this tiny rental nineteen ninety one Volvo, and because 166 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 4: it's a it's a period piece, and it's it's cold outside, 167 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 4: it's hot inside, and so we were just kind of 168 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: it wasn't really working. And I don't know what I 169 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: said to the actors or whatever happened that it was 170 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 4: one word, I think. And all of a sudden, you know, Alasseli, 171 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 4: who plays the mom, this this one beautiful take, beautiful take, 172 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 4: and I broke down watching her, and I'm like putting 173 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 4: my hand in because I'm like sobbing and I don't 174 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: want to mess up the audio. And I'm like shaking 175 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 4: from watching, you know. And and then of course when 176 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 4: I when when and this boy Santio mar Lusn, who 177 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 4: is amazing. This is a very wonderful job. His first job, 178 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 4: no way, first audition, Yes. 179 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 6: What's incredible. 180 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 3: He was amazing. 181 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 4: Wow again, you know he was just how he responded 182 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 4: to the scene in the moment, it was heartbreaking and 183 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 4: beyond the dad as well, who didn't do anything and 184 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: yet you feel everything that you know. I was very 185 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 4: lucky to find these people. And I'm a firm believer 186 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 4: in like finding finding the actors first, because I think 187 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 4: we are in a moment where there's a little bit 188 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 4: of criticism to the moment we're in right now, but 189 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: we're in a moment where when the name sometimes is 190 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 4: more important than the part towards the. 191 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 5: Story, yeah, or how many followers you have is more 192 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 5: important than them. 193 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 194 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 4: And in this one, mostly because I didn't have the 195 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 4: money to pay the big names, we actually went to 196 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 4: the actors that felt the most right. And some of 197 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 4: the people this is their first movie or whatever, and 198 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 4: I would never have known that it was anyone's first 199 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 4: movie at all, like it did. 200 00:12:55,280 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 5: They're not at all blown away that like yeah. 201 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I can't really say anything other than 202 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 4: when I when I when I when I open the 203 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 4: files and started editing When you edit, you spend a 204 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: lot of time with scenes. Sometimes this one scene has 205 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 4: like twenty different versions. Okay, so it's not you know, 206 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 4: it's very time consuming and you're spending time in this world, right, 207 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 4: And I'm not exaggerating. Every time I used to open 208 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 4: this scene up to work on it, I was just 209 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: like right, bloodgates and so I remember the moment that 210 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 4: I cried the most. I think it's ready. 211 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's done. 212 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 6: Got Yeah, don. 213 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 4: Test yourself how you It's a weird process. You sort 214 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 4: of use your own emotionality to be the audience member 215 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 4: watching something that you are working, right, see how it's 216 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 4: hitting you. So it's this conversation that youse a maker 217 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: have with the material. It's a weird phenomenon. It's very strange. Yeah, 218 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: it's like a part of you is an audience member 219 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 4: and a part of you is the editor, and after 220 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 4: you go between the two. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm so 221 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 4: happy about that that's on screen because sometimes for people 222 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 4: who don't are not on set and they don't understand 223 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: perhaps about filming, is that filming in itself, just like 224 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: we didn't fall our house. In everything, there's a moment 225 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 4: of electricity and there's a moment when almost the air 226 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: gets thick, you know, when they shot the action, like 227 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 4: everything kind of just you know, slows down and then 228 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: you're like anchored into this weird parallel universe. And the 229 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: moment they say cut you tell it's just you know, 230 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 4: it's like this energy just kind of open like this. 231 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 4: And so there's moments on film. We've all had them 232 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: when something something will inspire something for you to do 233 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: something in a certain way, for for what the response 234 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 4: to be X, and it's caught on film, and those 235 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: are the moments of magic. Now you can't really explain it. 236 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 4: I mean, you could write something till the Cows Come Home, 237 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 4: but until the moment happens in the filming process, right, 238 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 4: this actor has this I don't know, magical reaction. It's 239 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 4: not really there out of this whole experience. I think 240 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: that's what I've absolutely loved the most making a film 241 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 4: is that you get to witness before the world something 242 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: magical that you know the rest of the world will 243 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 4: see at some point and it's like it's it gives 244 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: you goosebumps. 245 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: What was your mom's reaction? Were you with her when 246 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: she watched the film? For the first time in the 247 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: scene in particular, and what was her reaction. 248 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 4: She wasn't there when we shot it because my mom 249 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 4: was actually doing in art direction and costume design of 250 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 4: the film, so she was very involved. So she was 251 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: probably like, so was shooting Uh No, she she she's 252 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 4: always been just so proud. And I know it's but 253 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 4: it's true. And and we are My mom and I 254 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 4: almost have a work relationship where we are kind of 255 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 4: equals because she's the artist and and and I'm also 256 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 4: an artist in a different way, and we exchange ideas 257 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 4: and and there's one scene where my actual mother and 258 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,119 Speaker 4: I are talking about her work. 259 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 6: And my work, and that's how we. 260 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 4: Are with each other. And so so, yeah, this whole 261 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 4: process was was about, okay, making something that comes from us, 262 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: m H. Now that it's it's it's its own thing, 263 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 4: it's its own story outside of us. And yeah, you 264 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 4: have to learn to see it critically. And she is 265 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 4: amazing at seeing things, like she's so critical. 266 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: But my mother, she's so critical. It's great. 267 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, most people all, but you're like, no, it's 268 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 5: actually really she is. 269 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 4: And I think some of us, some of my siblings 270 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: have have said this before it's like you're too critical 271 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 4: with you and and she's like, yeah, I can't help it. 272 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 4: She's in aries. 273 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 5: Ah, yes, yes, I have one of those. Yeah, Zoa's 274 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 5: an aries. Yeah I yeah, yeah, just cherry fiery. It's 275 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 5: going to be their way, it's going to happen and 276 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 5: no way. And they're not shy about telling you what 277 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 5: they think about your not at all. 278 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not at all, not at all. 279 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 5: In fact, they're doing you a favor really actually, Yeah, 280 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 5: you're like you should be thinking me. 281 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: You're like, I don't know if I should. 282 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: Oh, I love your mom so much, it's so amazing. 283 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's o cute. 284 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 5: Did she But did she give like notes and stuff 285 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 5: as you guys were going along? 286 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: Did she ever watch any of the dailies with you 287 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: or anything? 288 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 4: Or was it more like, you know what I really 289 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 4: love about my mom, as stubborn as she can be 290 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 4: about stuff and critical, maybe because she was a teacher, 291 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 4: a school teacher for a long time art teacher, there's 292 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 4: this respect that I always got where she would literally 293 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 4: just stand back see what I was doing, and literally 294 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 4: bite the head of anyone who would come close to 295 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 4: me to criticize anything. So I now see it with 296 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 4: distance and I go, wow, that was so. I mean, yeah, 297 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 4: it's like Mama Bear, like, yeah, I had an idea. 298 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 4: For example, I say, I think this should be lit 299 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 4: in this way and I want the camera to start 300 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: here and I want this to happen. And someone you 301 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 4: know from art will go, well, we can't do that 302 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: because you know the thing is not ready or this 303 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 4: or that or the light it's near. And my mom, 304 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 4: which would would basically just make them do what I wanted. 305 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 4: So it wasn't that she was critical about what I 306 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 4: was doing. She was actually respecting to the letter. Yeah, 307 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 4: one of the things that. 308 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 6: Your artistic were choices. 309 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, And and no, she's never really she's never really 310 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 4: said oh, you should cut it this way or you 311 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 4: should change this. She always trusted in whatever I wanted 312 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 4: to do. 313 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 5: Which it sounds like you guys have like an artist 314 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 5: to artist relationship, like you were talking about, sort of 315 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 5: that working relationship. 316 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: There's times you can talk about it. 317 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 4: And there's a thing about artists. We are so vulnerable 318 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 4: and so it hangs by a thread, like our purity 319 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 4: hangs by like this. Right. So, so when you know, 320 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 4: when you're convinced of something, you want to do and 321 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 4: you want to do it this way and whatever. You 322 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 4: also have to arm yourself with the strength to defend 323 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 4: it constant and it can be exhausting. And so when 324 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 4: you have a parent and who is kind of like 325 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 4: your colleague who's gone, well, he wants this right, everybody 326 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 4: don't change it right, It's it's kind of amazing. I 327 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 4: love her for it. I love her because sometimes you 328 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 4: don't get that at all in this industry, Like you 329 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 4: get people pushing, pushing of. 330 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: Course, yeah, everyone's trying to elbow each other out of 331 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: the way. 332 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. I actually I love working on like small films, 333 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 5: independent films, because you are you're all in there, all 334 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 5: doing everyone's doing it all, you know what I mean. 335 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: Like you're all just. 336 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 5: Kind of in the muck together, creating and doing and 337 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 5: like it's it's you know again, as an artist, you're 338 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 5: just like, this is what I love. Is like the 339 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 5: you know, the playing in the mud and the dirt 340 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 5: and making something out of you know, whatever, if people 341 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 5: knew what was going on outside of the shot of 342 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 5: the camera, you know what I mean, it's like the 343 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 5: magic that we get to create is really fun. Amongst 344 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 5: the chaos. 345 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 4: What's what's been your favorite kind of indie moment. 346 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 5: Aren't something I mean, you know, honestly, most of the 347 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 5: like small independent stuff I work on has been for 348 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 5: Hallmark or for Lifetime. But still like you have, you know, 349 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 5: twenty days to shoot a ninety seven page movie like there, 350 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 5: you know, even if you're like, okay, I'm not, it's 351 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 5: you know, there's not there's no scenes like there are 352 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 5: in Before We Forget, But it's still like you're having 353 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 5: to kind of be in the grind and do whatever, 354 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 5: and you know, and everyone's making it work and no 355 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 5: one's getting over time and you know, here at hour twelve, 356 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 5: and but yeah, I'm actually there's a couple scripts that 357 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 5: I'm working on right now, like producing stuff that are 358 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 5: again very different, very like things that we're kind of 359 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 5: having to like really fight for creative choices. So we'll see, 360 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 5: we'll see the goes anywhere. I mean, we're just still 361 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 5: in the kind of the writing and creating process. 362 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 4: I look forward to seeing that because I do remember, 363 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 4: I mean, you you were always both actually Andrea writing 364 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 4: the one of the episodes and you're directing. I'm pretty 365 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 4: curious to see also that vein that you actually you 366 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 4: both have Andrew I'm still waiting on that show that 367 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 4: we're going to do together. 368 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: I am. 369 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: Well, look, if you need a director, I'm just saying, I. 370 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: Mean, let's make it happen. Yea on somebody, Warner Brothers, anybody, 371 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: I mean, and. 372 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 3: I will say it on the podcast, anybody that's looking 373 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 3: for it. 374 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 5: Not. 375 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 2: We have a great script. We're ready to go. 376 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 5: It actually is ready to go. Yeah, yeah, ready to go. 377 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 5: Just hand us some money, that's it. Hand us the money. 378 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 5: We're gonna go do the thing. It's gonna be great. 379 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 5: We'll take care of all of it. Don't eve worry 380 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 5: about it. JP's got it. JP and his mom are 381 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 5: going to handle everything. 382 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, JP mom costumes are done. 383 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: Done, they're already sown. 384 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 385 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 386 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 387 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 3: And don't don't tell her that you don't like him, 388 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 3: because she is going to. 389 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 2: Be she'll have opinions. 390 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. That's what you're getting now. 391 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: So your mom was in the film. Your dad made 392 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: a cameo. He played was he the grandfather? He played Grandpa? 393 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 5: I have. 394 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 4: My grandpa was in a wheelchair. I don't even know 395 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 4: if you see the wheelchair in the movie, but we 396 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 4: had a wheelchair for him. He's in this sweet scene 397 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 4: in Winnesida, is with the family. I needed. I wanted him, 398 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 4: wanted him there, and he's so sweet, my dad. But 399 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 4: actually that wasn't really his day job and the shoot. 400 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 4: He was actually the transport manager, a transport that's it captain, 401 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 4: So he would take the actress from me to be 402 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 4: and every single day, well pick them up at the 403 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 4: airport and come back. Yeah, and that way, I'm very lucky. 404 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 4: I mean, we are, the three of us are very 405 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 4: lucky that our parents are very supportive. Yeah, we've done. 406 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 3: We got to meet your parents, which was so lovely. 407 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 6: They came. I love they came. 408 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 5: They came over, and we got to have some of 409 00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 5: your mom's amazing paea, which was a Yeah, your birthday. 410 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: Was the biggest bowl of paa I have ever seen 411 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: in my life. 412 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 6: It was. 413 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 5: It was, I mean, it was a giant piet Like 414 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 5: that's what you you know, You're like, we're cooking for everybody. 415 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was sounds of a dining room dangle. 416 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 6: It was so good. 417 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 5: It was so good, and we were all like just 418 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 5: kind of standing over there and smelling it and like yeah. 419 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 6: Go go, go go go, Yes, it's true. 420 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: One thing I want to ask, Okay, so I didn't 421 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: know this until I talked to you after the screening, 422 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: but the real life Alexander, your real life teenage crush, 423 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: also made a cameo in the film at the end. 424 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: What tell me, Okay, tell me what was that? 425 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: Like? What was what was his reaction when you told 426 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: him you were making this film about this experience between 427 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: you two. 428 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: And have you guys kept in touch? Was this awkward? 429 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 2: Was it fulfilling? Was it cathartic? 430 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 6: Like what all of the things that. 431 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: All of that there wasn't like one feeling. I mean, 432 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 4: when you are doing something that's so close to an 433 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 4: event and so close to people, you want to ask 434 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 4: can I do this? And so yeah, we had a 435 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 4: big conversation beforehand where I said, hey, I'm I'm I'm 436 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 4: thinking about doing this movie and really, you know, I 437 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 4: can need your blessing. And so he was amazing, amazing me. 438 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 4: Just he just said to me, just promise me that 439 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 4: you will that you won't leave any stones unturned, Like 440 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 4: it wasn't don't do this right And it was so lovely. 441 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 4: So so yeah, he was present in the shoot. He 442 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 4: was present in four or five festivals that went two together. 443 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 4: There's an easter egg in the film. I'm going to 444 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 4: say where where you actually see him He's he isn't there, right, 445 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 4: And it's not what you said, it's something else. Yeah, 446 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 4: but no, he's he's he's been incredibly present and it's 447 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 4: so him and his sister. 448 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: Oh are they and are they really Swedish because in 449 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: the oh he's not Swedish. 450 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 451 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: Are you willing to say what nationality or not? 452 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're Danish Danish. 453 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: I love the Danes, Jason jac that sweet adjacent close 454 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: yeah yeah, the dance yeah. 455 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah right right, the Upper Nordic. 456 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 457 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're the most amazing people, like that whole family 458 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 4: and the two of them, their parents, I mean, always 459 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 4: been inspired by them as people and and the love 460 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 4: they gave me without knowing, without knowing me at at 461 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 4: seventy years old, and they embraced me, and and yeah, 462 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 4: I was worried. I was worried to to talk about 463 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 4: real people because you want to pay homage to them, 464 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 4: you don't. You want to be very careful and so yeah, 465 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 4: there was there was a lot of talking and discussing things. 466 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, we're we're best of friends. We talk 467 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 4: all the time. He's always very involved in like what's 468 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 4: happening is okay? So which in festival, which cinema is going? 469 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,479 Speaker 4: And if he can, he he comes. 470 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: I love that. It's very full circle. That makes a 471 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: movie even better, more beautiful. 472 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: And I know you shot the film at these actual 473 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: locations too, at the actual college and actually at the 474 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: actual home. 475 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 2: Right there, their holiday home. 476 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 4: No, that that was we we we rented that one. 477 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 4: This is a villa beautiful Venetian. Yeah that's weel thirty 478 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 4: minutes from the college. But yeah, the college itself. That 479 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 4: was the whole reason why this movie was made, really 480 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: is because when I wrote it and then called the 481 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 4: school and then said I would like to not go inside, 482 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 4: not just would you let me do some establishing shots 483 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: of the place, and but I won't bother you, And 484 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 4: so the director studies like, no, no, no, no, no, you 485 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 4: can't do that. You you but you can come to 486 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 4: the school and shoot it here, shoot the whole film here. 487 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 4: So the fact that they they led me, they opened 488 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 4: the doors to a camera crew, I mean fair enough. 489 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 4: It was like spring break kind of moments. So weep 490 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 4: that the kids weren't in school. But basically they said, 491 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 4: you can do this if you use the students. So 492 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 4: we'll give you the chance if you involve them behind 493 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 4: the camera, whatever you want. So we had sixty students, 494 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 4: real students, be you know, the extras, the production managers, 495 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 4: the costume assistants, and the best friends, which were like 496 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 4: a group of which I had to kind of teach her. Yeah. 497 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean. 498 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 4: They didn't really didn't have to do anything because they 499 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 4: all have such charism. I loved working with with with 500 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 4: them because I don't know, it's like I got my 501 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 4: faith back in in in as an older person, you 502 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 4: can get a little bit like how my time he 503 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 4: used to. 504 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 5: Be m never. 505 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 6: Old lady. 506 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, these amazing, remarkable humans that just kind 507 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 4: of made me go, oh, we're good, We're good, the 508 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 4: the world good. 509 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, right right there, So there's some hope out there. 510 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean all thanks to the school really, because 511 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 4: because once once you have the approval the stamp place 512 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 4: like that, you have the locations, then I'm not going 513 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 4: to say it's easy to raise the cash. Yeah, but 514 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 4: it's kind of like, okay, it's good, No, the train 515 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 4: is moving. So this hopelly was made that way where great, 516 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 4: we got there, let's keep going, look and and things 517 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 4: would just happen. It just happened organically or magically or 518 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 4: or but but yeah, yeah, the locations were all real 519 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 4: where thing happened. 520 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, they were gorgeous. 521 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 5: Do you think I could go finish two years of 522 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 5: high school even though I finished and have a college 523 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 5: degree in Italy? Would would they take me? I really 524 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 5: just want to go have that experience? It sounds amazing. 525 00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 4: No, you could do? 526 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 6: What can I do? What I'm up to? 527 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 4: Tell me? You could offer a like you know, seminar, 528 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 4: like a class. Yeah, but like for a week or 529 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 4: three days or two day or whatever. 530 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 6: I mean, don't say JP. 531 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: Look at you coming up with ideas. 532 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 4: No, that's actually really fun and you're there for like 533 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 4: this beautiful. 534 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 3: I fell in love with Italy when we went. It 535 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 3: was just absolutely stunning and gorgeous. 536 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 4: So yeah, I do that sometimes I go. I go 537 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 4: there and I and I like, last year I choreographed 538 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 4: their gala and this year I'm doing it again in October, 539 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 4: so I'm involved. I just love that. It's like having 540 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 4: a holiday from the world because you go to the season. 541 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 4: They don't feel like they're belonging to any country. It's 542 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 4: this very international thing. And and and also kids are 543 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 4: so bright, yeah, so pure, so flexible in their minds, 544 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 4: how they think, are exposed to all these cultures. 545 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 5: Well, and I think too, like send, like you said, 546 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 5: sending kids kind of off on the red like here 547 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 5: you go, Like it changes them and it makes it. 548 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 5: It creates this sense of self assuredness, I think, and 549 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 5: capability and courage to try something new or do something different, 550 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 5: you know, And I think so important. 551 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 4: So I mean the world's already that way anyway. Kids 552 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 4: because of social media, they're they're sharing things or they're 553 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 4: looking at things that they would have never read were 554 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 4: in our old baby Yeah, but so now the world 555 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 4: is more connected for sure. But I do say that 556 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 4: it's important to any any teenager really to at least 557 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 4: have a holiday abroad or a summer. 558 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, now excited kind of travel, even if it's not abroad, 559 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 5: Like just go go travel somewhere away from your parents 560 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 5: in high school for like a week where you're with 561 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 5: other people and you have to kind of figure out 562 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 5: it changes you. Yeah, having to struggle, as you know, 563 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 5: like struggle is what makes you kind of come out 564 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 5: the other side and. 565 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 6: Go, ah, all right, I survive that. 566 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 5: Well, well, you're your movie was such a beautiful example 567 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 5: of like you just working so hard and creating something 568 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 5: so beautiful and just such a wonderful group of such 569 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 5: talented actors and just everybody in it. I hope that 570 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 5: everybody gets a chance to go see where can where 571 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 5: can people see it? Actually, well, we're. 572 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 4: Ending now our our theatrical run, which went to I 573 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 4: think ten cities. Okay, wow, and so we're now we're 574 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 4: entering the next the next moment, so you can check 575 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 4: on before we forget movie Instagram or forgetmovie dot com, 576 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 4: where the movie will be streaming soon. Oh good, great, 577 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 4: we're in that process now. So well, I'm gonna watch it. 578 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 5: We'll keep shouting it from the rooftops before we forget 579 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 5: movie dot com. 580 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: Everybody go check it out, because you it's a movie 581 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: that stays with you, Like it's been two or three 582 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: weeks and it's still I still yell it. 583 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 2: Yes really, And we are so proud of you JP. 584 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,959 Speaker 5: You are just we're so glad you're in the fam. 585 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 5: Yeah you really, Yeah, You've been a great addition to. 586 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 3: Our little fuller, full house. 587 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 6: Uh weird group of people. 588 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 2: And I can't wait to see what you do next too. 589 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this is just the beginning a very long 590 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: and illustrious filmmaking career and I just can't wait. 591 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 5: Up. 592 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 4: Well, we're making shows together. 593 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 3: Yeah that's yeah, you guys, A yeah, we're maybe it show. Yeah, 594 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 3: I'll put some dates in the calendar. 595 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 5: Trans I'll work on getting a sound stage to Kim Moffett. 596 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 5: She probably has some ideas of things. Yeah, yeah, No, 597 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 5: we're gonna be fine. 598 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 6: Guys. 599 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 5: It's gonna two weeks from now we are going to 600 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 5: be on a roll. We might be shooting Jody's garage. 601 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's fine, that's fine, it's big. I can 602 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 5: clear some stuff out. Uh No, JP, we love you. 603 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for being on the show today. 604 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 5: It was such a wonderful conversation. And you're just such 605 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 5: a talented human. Where can people find you on Instagram 606 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 5: or other socials. 607 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 4: It's my very long names, just Juan Bablo, the bad Chick. 608 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 6: Until we go. 609 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 5: At one, Pablo Depache and that's d I p a 610 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 5: Ce for those of you Yeah who might yeah not 611 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 5: it looks like right yeah yeah, yeah. The American, it's 612 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 5: not yeah, Americans, Yeah, it's not. It's not Juwan Pablo 613 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 5: die Pace. 614 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 3: Yeah it's not. No, no, no. 615 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 5: Maybe somewhere they pronounced it that way, but not here. 616 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 5: Uh No. We love you, JP, thank you so much 617 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 5: for joining us, and it was fabulous. 618 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 6: We'll talk soon. 619 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 4: Love you so so, so so much. Sending the kisses 620 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 4: from from this house to those houses. 621 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, this was. 622 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 4: I love you, I love your show. I love everything 623 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 4: that you're doing, or like just bringing joy, which is 624 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 4: which is the most important thing right now, making people happy. 625 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, bring a little bit of joy to 626 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 5: the world, all right, Jan you so much. 627 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 4: We love you. 628 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: So many kisses, so many bassos, and yes, yes, I 629 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 2: call it for the listeners, I call. 630 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: Him Mea More like we legitimately text each other that 631 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: Hello Mia More, Hello Mea Moore. 632 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, definitely, it's that funny. 633 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 5: Oh remember I found I took that picture of Stephanie's 634 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 5: flowers and I said it. I was somewhere like around 635 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 5: my house and there was a Stephanie flowers and I 636 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 5: was like, I said picture. 637 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 6: I was like, it's real. 638 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I know we're trying to wrap up, 639 00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 2: but you know. 640 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 5: I know the Irish goodbye of podcasts, right, we're like, 641 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 5: I mean, so and so I still have. 642 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: The voice note that you made for me, where you 643 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: say yay. 644 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 4: Why did I make a voice note. 645 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: So much I wanted to wanted to play anytime I'm 646 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: sad or whatever, I just play it, yay. 647 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 4: It could be like like a like a text message, right. 648 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 3: Like a little yeah. Yeah, it's just a voice note 649 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 3: that you can send. 650 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I love it. Okay, Well goodbye for real. 651 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 2: Actually we'll let you go. 652 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 6: No, thank you. 653 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 3: I love you on the show. 654 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: Bye. 655 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 6: I love him. 656 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 5: I think I fell in love with JP even more. Yes, 657 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 5: and I didn't think I could. He's a pretty amazing human. 658 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: He is just he's the best and so talented and 659 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm so happy that he gets to share this talent 660 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 1: with the world and his film and his life story 661 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 1: and it's just everything. 662 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 6: What a cheat? 663 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, seriously, what what an incredible like I'm just really. 664 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's really happy for me too, me too. 665 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 5: You see. Well, folks, thank you for joining us for 666 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 5: uh this incredible. 667 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 3: Interview with JP. 668 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 5: We're so proud of him and hope you guys go 669 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 5: check out the movie before we forget movie dot com. 670 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 5: Uh it's a really special movie. So yeah, So anyway, 671 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 5: we will see you. 672 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 6: Guys next time. 673 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 5: If you want to find us on Instagram, you can 674 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 5: follow us at how Rude podcast, or you can send 675 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 5: us an email at how Rude Tanner Ritos at gmail 676 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 5: dot com. 677 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 3: Uh, make sure you're liking and subscribing to the podcast. 678 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 5: You know, we always love to hear what you guys 679 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 5: are thinking, So rate us review, send us emails, whatevs, 680 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 5: and let's see what else? 681 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 6: What else? 682 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 3: Oh our merch store how rudemerch dot com. Make sure 683 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 3: you check that out. And uh, I think that's it. 684 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 2: I think you covered. 685 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,919 Speaker 3: I think we're good. Yep, all right, you guys. Well, 686 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 3: remember the world is small, but the house is full. 687 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 5: Hernandez get it, Hernandez get it, hern Nandez, Gereto, Gernando 688 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 5: get it. 689 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 2: It took me five years to master that. 690 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I apologize. 691 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 3: To anyone who speaks Spanish. 692 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 6: I actually could. 693 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 5: It would sound better than that, but I tripped that anyway. Yeah, yeah, 694 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 5: it's just full. Guerrero Finane Fernandez is everywhere. Just keep 695 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 5: repeating the same things over and just steps repeating yep, yep, 696 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 5: it's just coming out everywhere.