1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: Chris Peterson fourteen years in college football, made a bowl 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: appearance every year, won four games for everyone, he lost 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: four and a half. So one of the great all 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: time college football coaches of all time. He's joining us 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: live from the Pacific Northwest. He was at the Seahawks 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: Rams game and we were talking off air, you know 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: McVeigh pretty well. I asked about the quarterbacks, and I 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: want you to share what you did with about Matt 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: Stafford and how blown away you are because you were 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: at the game last night. 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: Yes. 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 4: So I've had a chance to be around the Rams 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 4: a little bit over the last couple of years, seeing 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 4: in practice, see how he studies, see how he treats guys, 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 4: and then how he processes. You know, Sean's got this 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 4: unbelievable system of offensive football, but it's very worthy as well. 24 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 4: I mean a lot of players are twenty words long. 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 4: This guy has a photographic memory. He does not wear 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: a wristband to call the plays off. He knows the 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 4: entire game plan, the arm angles that he throws with, 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 4: how he processes, how fast he gets through things, the 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 4: accuracy that he throws, and he's not a runner. 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: It is truly amazing. 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 4: And I have so much appreciation watching this greatness. When 32 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 4: you get a chance to see behind the scenes a 33 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: little bit, it is phenomenal like this, No look past 34 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: that we're looking at. It's crazy like he does it 35 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 4: every game. It is a true master of his craft 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 4: every Sunday. 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: For the record, you coached Pooka at Washington, you recruited him, 38 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: got him. Tell me what you thought of him as 39 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: a true freshman in Seattle. 40 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 4: Well, we played him as a true freshman, and we 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: had some pretty good receivers, I'll say that. 42 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: And I saw this in high school. 43 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 4: I think he was the all time leading high school 44 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 4: receiver in the state of Utah. And you'd see him 45 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: catch these phenomenal passes. The harder the catch, the more 46 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 4: you felt. 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: Like he was gonna make it. 48 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 4: And then he comes up here to Washington, and it 49 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 4: was the same thing. He just made all these tough catches. 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 4: The harder the catch, the more you knew he was 51 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: gonna make it. The body control, strong hands, really great 52 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: football IQ of feeling the game. Yeah, it was a 53 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 4: blessing to be able to coach him for the short. 54 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: Time that I did. 55 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: I remember that team. You had some NFL receivers and 56 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: he played as freshman. 57 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 5: I remember that, yep. 58 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: And he was just starting to come on halfway through 59 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 4: his freshman year and he ended up breaking his foot 60 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: just planning weird. 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: So you could feel all this that he was going 62 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: to just do some really really special things. 63 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: So you go to the college football playoffs, and it's 64 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: different than a bowl game. I mean, you had great 65 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: bowl success. Now now, especially if you're in an Oregon 66 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: or Georgia Ohio state, you got you gotta have three 67 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: four games back to back. 68 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 5: How would it's very NFL And that's. 69 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 1: Why I like that Ryan Day went and got Chip 70 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: Kelly NFL experience, Matt Patricia NFL experience. I do think 71 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: it's different than your old bull style. How would you 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: coach a little different knowing it could be the first 73 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: of two, three or four games? 74 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're coaching it like, Okay, we're gonna 75 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: get a chance to get rested up, recharged, healed up 76 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: a little bit, and then we're going to play this 77 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,559 Speaker 4: three to four game season. But it's all good on good. 78 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 4: So I don't like the huge layoffs you know that 79 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 4: some of these buy teams have. I think you get 80 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 4: out everybody that's got a buys in a great rhythm 81 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: right now, and now all you're doing is taking them 82 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: out of the rhythm. So I think that's and we 83 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: saw it last year a little bit because of the 84 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: matchups were uneven. But you know, we saw some of 85 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 4: these seated teams that had buys lose and everyone's going on, well, 86 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 4: part of it is you lose your rhythm. 87 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: And so I think it's a new season, fresh start. 88 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 4: All the things that we've learned, all the hard things 89 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 4: that we've been through, we take those lessons forward and 90 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: it is all in all we got. The cool thing 91 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 4: is is now school is now behind us. I know 92 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 4: nobody talks about academics anymore in college football and college 93 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: but that is real and that is a thing. And 94 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 4: so now finals are behind us and we can just 95 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 4: go and it's kind of pro football ish being at 96 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 4: our best. You always, as a coach, the thing one 97 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 4: of the things always, whether you're playing in a bowl 98 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 4: game before college football playoffs, are we playing. 99 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: Our best at the end of the year. 100 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 4: That is a goal and I think everybody that's you 101 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 4: know in this tournament is doing that. 102 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 103 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: in neon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 104 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 105 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 5: Hey is Covino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio Now. 106 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 6: In addition to hearing us live weekdays from five to 107 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 6: seven pm Eastern two to four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 108 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 6: We're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for 109 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 6: the show. 110 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 5: Yep, that's right. 111 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 6: You can now watch Covino and Rich live on YouTube 112 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 6: every day. All you gotta do search Covino and Rich 113 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 6: FSR on YouTube again, go to YouTube search Covino and 114 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 6: Rich FSR. Check us out on YouTube, subscribe, hit that 115 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 6: thumbs up icon and comment away. 116 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: You saw Fernando Mendoz at Cal and he wasn't this good? 117 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: Are you surprised at his growth? Because you saw him 118 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: at Cal and it was up and down. 119 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 4: I am so surprised at the entire Indiana program. 120 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 3: Like last year. 121 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: When Signetti came in there, I was like, yeah, wow, 122 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: he kind of hit it big and that was impressive, 123 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 4: and then to come back and do it again, and 124 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 4: you're right. I did get a chance to watch Fernando 125 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: at CAL and it was like, Wow, what an impressive throw, 126 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: But then. 127 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: You'd have some throws or some things that would kind 128 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 3: of really hurt them. And how he's grown. 129 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: In this Indiana offense with Signetti and company has been 130 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 4: nothing short of amazing. 131 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: I mean it really was. 132 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 4: I thought, you know, before Cal was like some good 133 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 4: a lot, just good enough to get your beat. Now 134 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 4: this guy is truly an elite college player. 135 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 3: I mean, he can move good. 136 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 4: The accuracy doesn't have an cannon for an arm, but 137 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 4: it's plenty strong enough, and throws like this. 138 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 7: Wow. 139 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 3: I mean I've been so impressed. 140 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 4: And you know, I had a chance this year actually 141 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: to vote for the Heisman Trophy, and I mean I 142 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: went back so hard between Pobby and him, and I 143 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 4: actually did vote for Fernando as the as the winner, 144 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 4: with a super super close second to Pavia. 145 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting the nil Marcus Freeman's name gets mentioned. 146 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: They're one of the last teams that didn't make it. 147 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: And I look at it and I think, well, he 148 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: can make a lot of money. But he's making a 149 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: lot of money now he can control personnel. But college football, 150 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: some would say it's like a poor man's NFL. You're 151 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: paying everybody. You know, it's constant free agency. But some coaches, 152 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Signetty may like it. He's older. He didn't 153 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: want to just do recruiting for high school. Like he 154 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: may like to write some checks and not have to 155 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: go on the road as much. For a guy like 156 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman, who's got the young guy energy, would you 157 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: consider the NFL or stay at Notre Dame. 158 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: I love Marcus Freeman. I like Notre Dame a lot. 159 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 4: I think it's really a bummer that they are left 160 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 4: out of this playoff because I look at it like this, 161 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 4: this is a team that could have a chance to 162 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: win the tournament and you're left out. 163 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: That hurts. 164 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: Now should in my opinion, they have gone in over Miami. 165 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: No Miami beat them, and there is enough closeness between it, 166 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: Like if we beat you and our records are the same, 167 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 4: as schedules are similar, I should go in. 168 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying this, Colin. 169 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I think college football is so nuts right 170 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: now and so crazy. If I'm a Marcus Freeman type 171 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 4: young coach, big career in front of me, I'm looking 172 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 4: really hard at the NFL because it's just it's just 173 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 4: twenty four to seven, three sixty five of nonsense. 174 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: The good part is Saturdays, when we get to play 175 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: the game. We all love them, the coaches love them. 176 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 4: But the behind the scenes is like, you can't make 177 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 4: up this stuff. 178 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: What's going on. 179 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 4: Coaches right now are looking at players to add to 180 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 4: their team, of players. 181 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: That aren't even in the portal yet. I think got a. 182 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 4: List of Oh, here's the good running backs, here's the 183 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 4: good receiver, and they're not in the portal, but they 184 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: know that they can go bit them right into the portal. 185 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: And it's just the crazy. I mean, that's a tip 186 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 3: of the iceberg. 187 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: So if I had an owner that I thought was 188 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 4: outstanding and the GM and I'm sold to Soul and 189 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 4: got alignment with that, I'm looking really hard at the 190 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 4: NFL because it's just a better way of life right now. 191 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 3: And I would never have said that eight years ago. 192 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: I think Ohio State's the best team. Indiana maybe too 193 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: talk about the Buckeyes. Do you would you favor them 194 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: going in because Georgia is good, but they're not Georgia 195 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: three years ago. 196 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 5: Georgia won a lot of close games. 197 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: I think it is interesting because I think you're talking 198 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: about the right thing. When I look at this tournament, 199 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 4: I kind of have it a lot like you had 200 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: your picks. I can't wait to see this Georgia Ohio 201 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: State matchup. I mean that is going to be for real. 202 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 4: And I have loved Ohio State all year long. I 203 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: think Julian's saying is so good. I cannot believe the kids, 204 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: a red shirt freshman and the weapons that he has 205 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 4: to throw to the running games coming along. So I've 206 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 4: been all about Ohio State all year long. But I'm 207 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 4: changing my pick here because what I don't like is 208 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 4: the coaches that are moving that have taken head jobs 209 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: that are moving on, or the head coaches that are 210 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 4: moving on. 211 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: I think that is very distracting and un settling. 212 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 4: And the fact that Brian Hartline did a great job, 213 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 4: He's got a new job, whether he's with him or not. 214 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: I think that's that's a big thing. 215 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 4: So I think George has been so sneaky good all 216 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: year long. I probably like Georgia maybe over Ohio State 217 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 4: right now. And I'm really surprised I'm even saying that. 218 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 4: And so I could see Indiana Georgia in a really 219 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 4: cool championship game. 220 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 3: But I'm not betting against Kirk Signetti. 221 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I've been doing that for too long now, 222 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 4: and that guy just keeps proven everybody wrong and himself 223 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 4: and his team. Right. 224 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: Uh, finally, Michigan job is open. Let's say Kaylan Devor 225 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: loses tonight, Michigan calls him up and said it, Kaylan, 226 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: we want you, whether he takes it or not. There's 227 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: an argument. I remember talking to coaches about this. They're like, 228 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: the SEC is different, the Big tens intense, but Michigan's 229 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: not Bama on the intensity scale. As a former coach, 230 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: they're both blue bloods Michigan Bama. 231 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 5: Coin flip. 232 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: Which would wish to you as a better job, family life, 233 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: whether intensity, competition, what's the better job. 234 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: For me? Is that what we're saying? Or for Kaylin and. 235 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 5: For you your general, for you, what would you take? 236 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: It's not close. 237 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 4: It would be Michigan, all right, you know, it just 238 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 4: means more in sec like they are for real, those 239 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 4: fans are so unforgiving. It is when now and now 240 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 4: you're following the greatest of all time? 241 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 3: So how do you meet those standards? 242 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 4: And the fact that people are even talking about, well, 243 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 4: if he doesn't win this game against Oklahoma, maybe it's time. Well, 244 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 4: are we not just pro even if he does win it? 245 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: Are we just not prolonging that conversation for next season 246 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 4: or a game or two later, like all or nothing 247 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: mentality like that is a very hard way to exist. 248 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: And so I just I think that is the if 249 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 4: there's anybody that could fit it, as Kaylin, he's such 250 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: a special person. He's one of the best coaches in 251 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 4: the country. I just think that job is so difficult. 252 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 4: And Michigan's been you know, down a bit by their 253 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: standards since you know, the last couple of years, and 254 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,359 Speaker 4: I think the fan base still expectations kind of unrealistic, 255 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 4: like all true. 256 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 3: Great and bases are. But it does seem like that 257 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: is could fit pretty well. 258 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, same thing, Chris Peterson, you look great. I know 259 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: you're happy. You still do some stuff obviously with us 260 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: at Fox and the University of Washington, and it's just 261 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: great to see a happy Holidays to you and the fam. 262 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: Appreciate you calling you two. 263 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 4: And this is the fun time of the year because 264 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: now football gets really good. 265 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 3: It does. 266 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: It's college with a little touch of NFL, the playoff format. 267 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: Good stuff. Chris Peterson. Yeah, the Vama Oklahoma game is 268 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: the hard one for me. Is I probably think the 269 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: better defense at home. Oklahoma's had Alabama's number, but Kaylin 270 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: de Boro will have these halves like the first half. 271 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: I would take Alabama because I saw what they did 272 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: at Georgia in the first half Kaylin's game plans. I 273 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: watched them at Washington. They are wicked. I think it's 274 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,359 Speaker 1: a really close, really close game. I don't think Oklahoma 275 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: can win a shootout. So if it gets high scoring, 276 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: you take Bama. Feels twenty four to twenty three to me. 277 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 3: J Mack with a news no, no turn on the news. 278 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: This is the herd line news, right. 279 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 8: Colin Sneaky good games Sunday on Fox. Chargers at the Cowboys. 280 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 8: It's kind of buried in the deck in the early games. 281 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 8: And it's interesting because it's a good clash in that 282 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 8: the Chargers defense has been lights out. 283 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 5: They really shut. 284 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 8: Down in recent weeks, the Eagles as well as the Chiefs. 285 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 8: Here's the problem. The offense is sputtering. Here's Jim Harbaugh 286 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 8: talking about what the offense has been like the last 287 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 8: couple of weeks. 288 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 9: Chiefs and the Eagles. I think they would love to 289 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 9: have our offensive production in those two games, and those 290 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 9: are really really good teams. Yeah, so you think their 291 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 9: Eagles would have rather had our offensive production or theirs? Well, Chiefs, 292 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 9: ours are theirs and against two really good defenses specifically 293 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 9: playing winning football specific you could be. 294 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: Well, you know that that is very specific. 295 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 8: If we're giving awards, Collin quarterback speaker of the year 296 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 8: at the podium's Dak coach speaker has to be Jim Horrible. 297 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 8: I mean every week he's coming up with funny stuff. 298 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 5: Little digs there. Now, listen to. The offense has been sputtering. 299 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 8: Lad mcconkey's been a ghost, He's not doing anything. Rondez 300 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 8: Gadsden hasn't done much. I mean, Keenan Allen, the offense 301 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 8: just isn't producing. Can they keep up with Dallas on 302 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 8: the road here? 303 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's a much better defense. 304 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: Coaching edge defensive edge. 305 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 5: And the game. The games now matter a lot for 306 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 5: the Chargers. 307 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: Now, now Dallas, you know, with a defensive coordinator getting 308 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: called out by Jerry Jones, you'll probably get an inspired 309 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: effort by Dallas. But I you know, when I get 310 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: a quarterback, coach, defense edge and Dak's played well, I'd 311 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: probably take the Chargers. 312 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 5: It's interesting. 313 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 8: So jesse Minter, I believe he's he's going to be 314 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 8: like the number one candidate for many teams. 315 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 5: Colin, if you watch that the Chiefs were up thirteen 316 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 5: to three and a half, jesse Minter's defense held the 317 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 5: Chiefs to zero points in the second half in Arrowhead 318 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 5: with the season on the line. 319 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 8: This quarter scheme that he's got cooking up. Jalen Hurts 320 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 8: had his worst game of the season. I mean, listen, 321 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 8: I don't know what to tell you. This defense, if 322 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 8: they could contain Dallas, I think you've got to consider 323 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 8: mintor the favorite for either Tennessee or Dallas or one 324 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 8: of these jobs. I mean, he's just been outstanding. I 325 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 8: was leaning Cowboys, but it's probably a pass for me. 326 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 8: Next up, let's go to Jackson Dart. You seem to 327 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 8: think that there's something there a colonel of a franchise quarterback. 328 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see. 329 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 8: Interestingly, this year's Hard Knocks in season, there was a 330 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 8: fascinating clip that circulated about Dan Quinn as well as 331 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 8: the Commander's defensive coordinator encouraging their players to treat Dart 332 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 8: like a running back. They essentially were saying, don't worry 333 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 8: about the passing, he's a running back. Here's Dart's reaction 334 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 8: to hearing these coaches essentially say, treat him like a 335 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 8: running back. 336 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 10: No, absolutely, absolutely not. I mean Kirby Smart said the 337 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 10: exact same thing every time that he played against me. 338 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 10: So didn Nick Saban, So did every coach that I 339 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 10: played in college. So this is nothing new. You know, 340 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 10: just try to, you know, go out there to play 341 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 10: smart and be available for your team. 342 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: It just gets me excited. 343 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 10: I mean, just has a competitor, Uh, you want to 344 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 10: go out there and compete, and you know, obviously like 345 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 10: their acknowledging respect you know in a way too. So 346 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 10: you know, I appreciate that. 347 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 5: M defiant like that at all or No. 348 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: No, I mean listen, I think it helped. He played 349 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: for a very smart offensive coach and Lane Kiffin. So 350 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: I think he is ahead of the curve where most 351 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: rookies are and his and he's been better than I thought. 352 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: I you know, I thought he was an NFL quarterback, 353 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: but I didn't think you'd have a ninety four passer 354 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: rating his last five games, He's played really, really well. 355 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 5: I like I like his movement. 356 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: You know, the blue tent stuff is the league's fast 357 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: linebackers and safeties get on you really fast. And Justin 358 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: Herbert had some of these early years. Drake may Whether 359 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: you take shots you shouldn't take, but last five games 360 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: completion percentage ten to one TD to interception ratio. You 361 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: can't deny the numbers. And this is a team without 362 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: a number one back, a number one dominant tight end, 363 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: or a number one receiver. 364 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 5: Interesting, I'm looking at the last five games he played in. 365 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 5: So they lost to. 366 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 8: Washington, lost to the Patriots, lost of the Bears, lost 367 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 8: of the Niners. 368 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 5: Are you detecting a theme? Lost to the Eagles. 369 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 8: So I know the numbers appear good, but on a 370 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 8: down to down basis, they're not that good. Dart And again, 371 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 8: I know you like him, Colin. Early in the season, 372 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 8: I was like, Oh, this guy's got something. I wonder if. 373 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 5: Defense is caught up to him, because I'm not seeing 374 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 5: as much of a threat. Now there's no scataboo, there's 375 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 5: no neighbors to be fair. 376 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: Well, thos our two best players, he didn't have his 377 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: two best guys pretty much? 378 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 8: Does Dart remind you of like a Cobra Kai from 379 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 8: the movie Karate Kid. He's got like the blonde hair, 380 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 8: the kind of fine he's puffing the chest out. 381 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 5: He looks like I know you laugh when I say this, 382 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 5: but he looks like a cool guy, you know heraim. 383 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: Honestly, he reminds me of a more athletic Baker Mayfield. 384 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: I think I think he's a I think he's a 385 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: better runner than Baker. Maybe not Brad, but he reminds 386 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: me a little bit of Baker Mayfield. A little chip 387 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: on his shoulder. Uh, he's a better runner than Baker is, 388 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: but he's he's can be a little reckless sometimes with 389 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: his body. Baker similarly knocked out his shoulder squaring up 390 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: a safety after a pick. 391 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 5: There's a little Baker Mayfield here. It reminds me of 392 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 5: my kid as well. Just he has all the answers 393 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 5: and it just Jackson Dart looks like he knows everything. Kellen, 394 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 5: we're gonna be talking about this game in headlines, very shortening. Okay, 395 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 5: all right, let's go. Let's go to the final story here, 396 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 5: and that is Pittsburgh and Detroit. 397 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 8: Actually pretty good game, and you know what this is 398 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 8: gonna be in headliness next next segment as well. I 399 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 8: don't know what to make of the Lions and you know, 400 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 8: are they gonna get back into the playoff mix? 401 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: Well? 402 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 8: Aiden Hutchison gave us a good SoundBite. He said, the 403 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 8: last time he faced Aaron Rodgers, it was in his 404 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 8: rookie year, and you know what he did. 405 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 5: He picked off the Hall of Famer as a. 406 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 8: Rook Here's Hutchison talking about matching up with Rogers. 407 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 7: I'd love if he threw me another one. That'd be 408 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 7: that'd be great. But uh no, it's he's a competitor man, 409 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 7: and he's he's been doing it at a high level 410 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 7: for a long time. So we all have a ton 411 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 7: of respect for him, and you know that's he's he's 412 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 7: a he's a he's a focus this week for sure. 413 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 5: Did you did you have this in no blazon blazing five? 414 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 5: I forget it was the last one I dropped. 415 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: I like Detroit got up to seven, and I said, 416 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: all pass, Yeah. 417 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 8: You look at that Steelers injury report off the short week. 418 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 8: Take a gander at that. All right, Well we'll have 419 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 8: an update for you shortly. But I think there's a 420 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 8: good game is Detroit did though. 421 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 5: In the NFC. I don't know if they can get 422 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 5: back in. 423 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they just don't teams. They don't look like 424 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: the Rams or Seattle. I'll tell you that. They don't 425 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: look like that at. 426 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 5: Uh yeah, do they look like Chicago? Can we get 427 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 5: to that level? Forget the Rams? Yeah, they look more 428 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 5: like Chicago. Flawed but good. Is that a good offensive 429 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 5: coordinator job? By the way, Detroit, Yeah, Larry, they should 430 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 5: be able to get whoever they want. 431 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 8: I mean, Goss Gibbs, I'm around, Radolporta will be back 432 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 8: next year. 433 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 5: Jamison Williams like they've got all the pieces, you know. 434 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: J Mackle the news, Well that's the news, and thanks 435 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: for stopping by The Herd line. 436 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 5: New he's been on a heater. J Maxx got his picks. 437 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 5: Next in the Herd. 438 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays 439 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: and Noone Easter not a Empacific. 440 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: Next week it's Christmas week. J McK and I yule 441 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: Tide spirit, but not today, not now. It is week sixteen. 442 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: We call it Tomorrow's headlines today and let's roll it. 443 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: Jmack Tomorrow on Fox Packers at the Bears, who you got. 444 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 8: Great game on Saturday. I know you'll be really locked 445 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 8: in for this rooting for your Bears. The headline for 446 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 8: Packers Bears on Fox will be ben if it's package 447 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 8: Bears get more PTO playoff time off. 448 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 5: I'm rocking with you on this one. 449 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 8: I like Chicago to get a little revenge on the Packers. Now, 450 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 8: I do have to admit there was a great SoundBite 451 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 8: from Jeff Haffley. I think you talked about it the 452 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 8: Packers defensive cordator. Essentially, he's like I prepared from February 453 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 8: to August for a defense in Green Bay that would 454 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 8: not have Michael Parsons because he was still on Dallas. 455 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 8: So I don't think there's a massive drop off for 456 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 8: the Packers. The problem is the injuries are mounting right. 457 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 5: I mean, we're seeing the safety Williams, he's out, he 458 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 5: lead them in interceptions, and then how do you get 459 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 5: past pressure on Caleb Williams. Without Michael Parsons, the Bear's 460 00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 5: whole line has been great. 461 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, they didn't have to blitz at all with Micah, 462 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 8: So ultimately I think Caleb in the run Gab will 463 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 8: be fine. But for me, the big one is I 464 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 8: think Dennis Allen learned his lesson in the earlier meeting. 465 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 5: You can't blitz Jordan Love. You can't leave your DB's on. 466 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 8: An island against Christian Watson. Now, the good news is 467 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 8: Watson may not play. It's looking like he's touch and go. 468 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 8: But they're also down Zach Tom the offensive lineman. I 469 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 8: do believe forty two percent last time they blitzed Love. 470 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 8: That number's got to drop way down. Colin Love is 471 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 8: just gonna kill them on the back end. So I'll 472 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 8: go Bears in a low scoring affair, maybe a nineteen 473 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 8: sixteen thriller. 474 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, Hi Kings and JJ McCarthy against the Giants. 475 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 5: Two teams with nothing to play for. 476 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 8: But oh, this is gonna be fun because you know 477 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 8: I'm a JJ McCarthy guy, You're a Jackson Dart guy. 478 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 5: We're head to head. The headline for the Vikings at 479 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 5: the Giants will be. We've built this gritty Minnesota Rocks 480 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 5: and Skulls over New York. 481 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 4: Colin. 482 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 8: I got a fun number for you, Okay, Brian Flores, 483 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 8: great defense, it's coordinator. They haven't been at full strength 484 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 8: much of the season. They're cooking right now. He is 485 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 8: against rookie quarterbacks, seven too and two against the spread. 486 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 8: And how about this straight up ten and one in 487 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 8: his career against rookie quarterbacks. He's got intricate schemes. The 488 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 8: rookies never know where the blitz is coming from. Van Grinkle, 489 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 8: the awesome edge rusher. You don't know where he's coming from. 490 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 8: And I think Dart's really going to struggle here. 491 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 5: Also, I'll just say this about JJ McCarthy. I know 492 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 5: we've kind of pushed it to the back burner because 493 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 5: they're eliminated. He has shown really well the last couple 494 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 5: of weeks. Now, go ahead, go ahead. 495 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: I mean it is against Dallas and the Commander's defense 496 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: also true. 497 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 5: Well, you know what, it's not like the Giants already better. 498 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 8: They're thirty first in the league in pass defense, so 499 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 8: they're not stopping anybody. And I do I know I 500 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 8: sound like the boy who cried Wolf Hey, Justin Jefferson, 501 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 8: He's due. It's gonna work. I think this is the 502 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 8: week that he catches fire in New York. I like 503 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 8: the Vikings here and somewhat convincingly. 504 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today Joe Burrow and the Bengals offush, shutout, 505 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: angry at Miami, and quinn Ewers. 506 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, Joe Burrow very talkative. I wonder what the. 507 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 8: Media is gonna ask him about after this one. The 508 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 8: headline for Bengals at Dolphins will be quinn and out. 509 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 8: Bengals devoured Dolphins animal style. Little Hamburger action for you there, Colin. 510 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 5: I like the bank. 511 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 8: This is my first bet of the week before they 512 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 8: made the quarterback change. 513 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 5: It's now up to four and a half. We don't 514 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: know what quinn Ewers is gonna do. He was a 515 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 5: highly claimed high school kid. He was good at Texas. 516 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 5: I think he got to the playoff twice. 517 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 8: Here's my thing, this is a perfect setup for yours 518 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 8: to do some damage. The Bengals defense stinks. We know this, 519 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 8: but I do believe Burrow. He's not gonna be able 520 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 8: to keep. 521 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 5: Up with Burrow. Colin, the news just broke. 522 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 8: Micka Fitzpatrick will not play for the Dolphins this week. 523 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 8: He's injured and the leading tackler on the Dolphins Jordan Brooks, 524 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 8: He's actually the number one tackler in the NFL. 525 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 5: He's TBD. 526 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 8: He's misspractice all week. He's out there today. If they're down, 527 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 8: their two best defenders, Burrow and Chase are gonna catch 528 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 8: in the warm weather. Remember you don't show well last week. 529 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 8: If you're Burrow, you bounce back strong. I would not 530 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 8: be surprised if Cincinnati hung a forty burger on Miami 531 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 8: short week. 532 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 5: Give me the Bengals. 533 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: Here tomorrow's headlines today. I know where you're leaning here, 534 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: Chiefs at the lowly Tennessee Titans. 535 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 5: Oh, I thought you're gonna say that Titans hosting the 536 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 5: lowly Chiefs. But that's a little harsh. I don't want 537 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 5: your guy Nick to feel too bad. The headline for 538 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 5: Chiefs at Titans will be we are never ever ever. 539 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 8: Gonna play together. Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey has done. 540 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 8: They're never gonna play together again. Kelsey, we know is 541 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 8: gonna be bouncing to be a celebrity and a podcast 542 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 8: after the season. Colin is a little bit sad. Gardner, 543 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 8: Minshew getting to start. Mahomes obviously just had surgery this week. 544 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 5: But I gotta ask you, the Chiefs often stunk with Mahomes. 545 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 5: What are they gonna do with Gardner Minshew? 546 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 8: And the Chiefs just announced Colin moments ago that these players. 547 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 5: Did not practice today. 548 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 8: Right tackle Juwan Taylor swing tackled Jalen Moore, Rashi Rice 549 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 8: Can cussed Taekwon Thornton, Can cussed two other defenders and oh, 550 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 8: by the way, a third in Trent McDuffie. They could 551 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 8: be down six starters against the Titans. This line was 552 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 8: four and a half, three and a half. 553 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 5: It's a three. 554 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 8: I mean, Tennessee on the money line is going to 555 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 8: be live and here's a fun number. I know the 556 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 8: Titans stink during the mix for the number one pick, Colin, 557 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 8: we just heard from the former Washington coach talking about 558 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 8: how you end the season. Did you know in the 559 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 8: last six games the Titans are for to one and 560 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 8: one against the spread, and that's facing five playoff teams, 561 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 8: so they're trying hard. 562 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 5: Still. 563 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 8: I just wonder what the mindset is from the Chiefs. Hey, 564 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 8: we're in the AFC Championship every year. Now we gotta 565 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 8: play the Titans meaning nothing. Listen, if you're into olt lines, 566 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 8: Tennessee by double digits, is that in play here? 567 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean this literally could be one 568 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 5: of the bigger surprises of the season. But I like 569 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 5: Tennessee to win out right. 570 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, I like the Lions here. It was 571 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: the last blazing five pick. I did not pick. 572 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 3: What say you? 573 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, we went with a six pack this week 574 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 8: because I'm not kind. 575 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 5: Of feeling myself. You know, it's it's December. Getting excited. 576 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 5: Here we go. 577 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 8: The headline four Steelers at the Lions will be he 578 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 8: who smelt it, dealt it. Lions turned steel curtain into tinfoil. 579 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 5: I like Detroit here laying a touchdown. Colin Again, it 580 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 5: is a short week for Pittsburgh. 581 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 8: You've got an old quarterback going into a job to 582 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 8: face Aiden Hutchison. 583 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 5: Okay, we know that the Steelers offensive lines been mediocre. 584 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 8: Aiden Hutchison is an animal coming off the edge, and 585 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 8: I do wonder that Detroit offense, Colin. We saw them 586 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 8: light the rams up last week twenty four points in 587 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 8: the first half. What are they going to do to 588 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 8: a Steelers defense? By the way, herbig trending toward not playing. 589 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 8: TJ Watt not gonna play. 590 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 5: I don't see how the Lions can't pick their number 591 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 5: here in one of the highest totals on the board. 592 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 5: Give me the Lions. 593 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: Here Finally tomorrow headlines today, I think the Patriots win 594 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: close against the Ravens. Ravens passing game and passing defense 595 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: are broke. 596 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 5: What do you make of it? 597 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 8: You know, I kind of I saw your pick here. 598 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 8: I was like, let me just crowbar in another one. 599 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 8: I'm feeling myself. 600 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 5: The headline for Ravens Patriots will be Ravens Glare Lamar 601 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 5: bombs in air, pat Stars get spangled. 602 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 8: Colin, I'm worried about your Patriots. Okay, that's second half 603 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 8: against Buffalo. How can you not ignore that they could 604 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 8: not stop Josh Allen a running quarterback Josh Allen eleven 605 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 8: carries last week. Enter Lamar Jackson, who has not run 606 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 8: well this season. No, but this sets up for a spot. Lamar, 607 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 8: hey carry us the way Josh did. You're a two 608 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 8: time MVP. And oh, by the way, the Patriots I 609 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 8: looked at their schemes. A lot of too high safety, 610 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 8: a lot of own invites running games Derek Henry and 611 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson should go for a buck fifty to two 612 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 8: hundred year. 613 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the Ravens. 614 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: Now. 615 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 8: I'm probably an idiot feeling like, Okay, the raven you know, Colin, 616 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 8: this is still has the nucleus of a good team. 617 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 8: I still believe they get in the playoffs. They're dangerous. 618 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 8: We don't think Pittsburgh is. 619 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 5: I do. I don't know if you think the Ravens 620 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 5: are dangerous, but I respect them. 621 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: But the Cincinnati game, Cincinnati had no juice, was not 622 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: ready to play. I don't make a take a lot 623 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: out of it. And also New England won like ten 624 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: games in a row. They are really well coached, really 625 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: well quarterback. Over the last five games, Lamar is completing 626 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: fifty five percent of his throws, Drake may seventy. It 627 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: just feels like to me, New England will be able 628 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: to play a little keep away, move the chains underneath stuff. 629 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: I think it's low scoring. I think it's good. I 630 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: just didn't like the number. I thought three was too 631 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: many to give a great coaching staff and a productive offense. 632 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 8: By the way, the dead last in red zone defense, Patriots, 633 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 8: they're giving up touchdowns on seventy five percent of red 634 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 8: zone trips. 635 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 5: So I know, so this everything lines up for Lamar here. 636 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 8: And by the way, you got admit you would love 637 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 8: to see Week eighteen forty nine ers were Seahawks for 638 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 8: the number one seed and Steelers Ravens for a playoffs. 639 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: That would be great, That would be great, nice job 640 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: college football playoffs. And I think what's interesting is if 641 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: Kaylin Debor loses as Alabama's coach, there's a lot of 642 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: belief that he will go to Michigan. I think Michigan 643 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: Alabama historically is the better job, but I think. 644 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 5: There's a little bit more. 645 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: Michigan is a blue blood, a northern huge endowment money, 646 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: never a shortage, great school, great history. I think the 647 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: Big Ten's got more money right now than the SEC 648 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: does with its top schools. I would take the Michigan 649 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: job in Michigan's athletic departments had some real missteps. So 650 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: I think Ohio State wins the Natty. I think Julian 651 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: sand will handle it. I don't think George is as 652 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: good as previous years. A lot of those wins, and 653 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: I think I think Oregon Texas Tech in the semifinals 654 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: is fascinating. 655 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 5: Hey, let me let me ask you on to Bor. 656 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 8: Do you think he's taking that job like soon or 657 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 8: would he wait for the ad to get booted because 658 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 8: there's been so many scandals, apparently the hockey team out 659 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 8: of scandal. We know, the basketball stuff with Juwan Howard, 660 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 8: like the whole athletic department has had a lot of issues. 661 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 8: I wonder if Debor says, let me just wait for 662 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 8: you guys to find your ad, then I'll come on board. 663 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 664 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I you gave me those that quarterback for 665 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: Michigan and those receivers, and I'm an offensive coach. I'd 666 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: want to get my hands on that. And and by 667 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: the way, Sharon Moore and Harbaugh, he's got some players 668 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: still in that program. They recruited at a very high level. 669 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: And so I mean, listen to Big ten. You gotta pay. 670 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: You gotta face Oregon now, in USC now in Washington, 671 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: now it's in Indiana's a power. So both jobs, yeah, 672 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: brutal schedules. I I think if I was Kalin de Born, 673 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: my history was Northern schools, I would probably take the 674 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: Michigan job. That's that's probably what I would do. So 675 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: I can't wait have a great weekend.