1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. Yeah, we feel your frustration. On today's 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: show just not good enough. Regardless of what was on 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: the line, the Cardinals have shown to be much better 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: than what we saw on Sunday, and at the same 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: time they've shown exactly what we did see on Sunday. 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: Our big takeaways and the litter is from Cliff Kingsbury. 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode three forty seven and it 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyunday, 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. 11 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: Visit acy Cardinals dot Com Slash Podcasts. Murray rolls to 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: the right, throws near sight of Fritz Bob. He's into 13 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: the end zone for the touchdown. Here's Craig Grilou and 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. So we spent a lot of time last 15 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: night on Cardinal Talk. MJ's just talking about how much 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: we enjoyed the matchup between the two young quarterbacks Kyler 17 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: Murray and two a tongue of baaloa and then lamented 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: the fact that we have to wait four years to 19 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: see this matchup again because you're out of conference, and 20 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: then eight years before you would see this matchup again 21 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: at State Farm Stadium. But an interesting item this morning 22 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: in Peter King's Football Morning in America. And I know 23 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: you read it every single week. It is must read 24 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: material on Monday mornings. But Peter King wrote this in 25 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: with respect to what he saw between Murray and Tuah. 26 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: These guys won't play again until the autumn of the 27 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: next presidential election. Insanity. It's worth studying whether the seventeenth 28 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: regular season game the NFL is moving to that uneven 29 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: number per team in twenty twenty one could be used 30 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: by the league so that budding mega games like Miami 31 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: Arizona can be played more than once every four years. 32 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: End of notes. I found that fascinating. Now, how do 33 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: you go about doing that and scheduling that? But you 34 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: do have that seventeen game season coming up in twenty 35 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: twenty one, and what does the league do MJ As 36 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: far as what is that game? Who is it against? 37 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: You already play your division twice so it wouldn't be 38 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: a division game. But is it in conference or out 39 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: of conference? And then how do you figure all so 40 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: many moving pieces, but I just it's four sentences that 41 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: I just found fascinating because I enjoyed it. It was 42 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: certainly nerve wracking watching the game because you want the 43 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals to win, but I would pay to see that 44 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: matchup one more time. Yeah, I it's something we discussed 45 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 1: last night, and you know, you know, we've watched two 46 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: on TV, you know, through college and last week had 47 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: a chance to see some of the highlights. That did 48 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: watch some of that game when the Cardinals were on 49 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: their by week. But yeah, it was fascinating. And then 50 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: to see him in person, you can see the upside 51 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: and why Miami decided to turn the franchise over to him. 52 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: Nothing against Ryan Fitzpatrick, but he's not the future. Yeah. 53 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: I guess when you look at it, you play an 54 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: AFC division every year, so it wouldn't be one of 55 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: those teams, and then you play six games in your division, 56 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: and then you play NFC Division, and then depending on 57 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: which where you finish in your division, you'll get the 58 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: other two teams that finished them the same boat. So 59 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: it'd be interesting to see. And then with the seventeen 60 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: game schedule the first year, do you get nine home games, 61 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: or do you get eight and then then the following year. 62 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: But I do like this idea because not only you 63 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: know two, but Lamar Jackson, they're they're in the same boat, Yester, 64 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: you played them last year. We won't see them for 65 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: a while. Patrick Mahomes, I mean, there are some fascinating 66 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: and because of Kyler Murray, to me, the networks will 67 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: eat this up. I don't know if there's a more 68 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: dynamic player. He may not be the best NFL quarterback 69 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: right now, but he is dynamic and he is exciting. 70 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, you know, we want to 71 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: see this team, you know, make strides and get to 72 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: the postseason because I think it would be very interesting. 73 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: But they're gonna have to, you know, do their their 74 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: work to see where they are. But I just think 75 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: when Kyler Murray's on TV now and they've got a 76 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: couple opportunities already, and the fact that people are talking 77 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: about that game yesterday because you had two and Kyler, 78 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: I would think he's really intriguing to the networks. And 79 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: it's not just ESPN, NBC. I mean you're also talking 80 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: about possibly you know, we all play, they all play 81 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: on Thursday nights. But maybe interconference game where CBS takes 82 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: it because we've never had you know, it seems like 83 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: Jim Nance and Tony Romo in the future. But I 84 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: just think the way this offense, but you gotta win. 85 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: But Kyler Murray, I think when you match them up 86 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: to some of these other quarterbacks, they're fascinating matchups. And remember, 87 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: beginning with November twenty ninth, when the Cardinals play at 88 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: New England, that is when this flex scheduling begins. As 89 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: far as moving games to that Sunday night window on NBC, 90 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: I'll throw into other quarterbacks as far as the AFC 91 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, who the Cardinals will see this coming week. 92 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: And then Justin Hubert. I know the Chargers aren't winning 93 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: lot they're finding different ways to lose ball games, but 94 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: I've been thoroughly impressed by what he's been able to do. 95 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: So if you're the NFL and you take what Peter 96 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: King had to say in Football Morning in America, there's 97 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: five quarterbacks right there that you could rotate with the Cardinals. 98 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: Now we're just focused on Kyler Murray. Other teams would 99 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: have to kind of figure it out and coming up 100 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: with the schedule MJ is not easy because you have 101 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: to deal with stadiums, making sure teams aren't playing five 102 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: straight games on the road or four straight at home. 103 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: It is difficult, I get it. So I'm just curious. 104 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: And this is the first time I've even thought about 105 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: this seventeen game schedule coming up next season. What is 106 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: that game? Who is it against? What do the owners 107 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: decide to do with that game? And you got to 108 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: have competitive balance. Again, there's some I'm just guessing. I mean, 109 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: I guess you could play eight home games, eight road games, 110 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: then you can play at a neutral site. I mean again, 111 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm getting ahead of myself, but you got to have balance. 112 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: And maybe one year some team will have eight home 113 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: games and next year nine, So yeah, that's gonna be tricky. 114 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: And then you're looking at it, you know, a bye week, 115 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: So that's an eighteen game week schedule for the NFL. 116 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: But obviously, you know, with more playoff teams, and they've 117 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: actually thought about putting eight in this year depending on COVID. 118 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: That's more revenue, more playoff games, and that's what the 119 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: league's looking for. And of course the TV contracts are 120 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: coming up here real soon, and it seems like ESPN 121 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: is willing to offer whatever it takes to kind of 122 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: get Sunday Night's schedule. We know Sunday Night is obviously 123 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: it seems like the better schedule ESPN. I think when 124 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: initially when they got it, and there's also talk CREG 125 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: they would move this to ABC simulcast perhaps both ESPN 126 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: and ABC, and then if ESPN got into the mix, 127 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, ABC gets into the rotation 128 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: or hosting a Super Bowl, and that is certainly big dollars, 129 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: big ratings. Again, Bird Gang, we're having this discussion just 130 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: because the Cardinals have their quarterback, Kyler Murray, despite the 131 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: outcome yesterday, did everything he could possibly do to win 132 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: that ballgame against the Miami Dolphins. And we're not thinking 133 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: about what did the Cardinals do as far as a 134 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: quarterback next year, five years from now. That question has 135 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 1: been answered now hopefully for the next ten to fifteen years. 136 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: And that is why I think there is so much 137 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: excitement and then at the same time, MJ disappointment and 138 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: frustration when you don't have the performance that you think 139 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: this team is capable of having offense, defense, and special teams. 140 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: And why we're sitting here on this overreaction Monday after 141 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: a thirty four thirty one loss, that you're lamenting another 142 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: missed opportunity. Yeah, and let's go back to last week, 143 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: because I want to give you credit. And we talked 144 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: about in part of our show and part of the 145 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: caption on some of our shows was which Cardinal team 146 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: is going to show up? And you were right on 147 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: And I sat here on Friday saying, I'm not really 148 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: worried about that because they have enough leadership in that 149 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: locker room and they know what's at stake here. And again, 150 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: five wins, would you know, you know, looking at it, 151 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, you know, nine games to go or eight 152 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: games now. But I was just looking at it from 153 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: a standpoint of there's something that they're playing for, something 154 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: where a couple of years, we get to this point 155 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: in the year and yere, it's kind of like, okay, 156 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: how many games are going to win between now and 157 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: the end of the season and when we get to December, 158 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: it's just human nature where they picking in the draft, 159 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: that's just a missed opportunity. It squandered an opportunity to 160 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: get that sixth win. Now, you know how I feel 161 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: about going on losing streaks and it's not going to 162 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: be easy. You've got a Buffalo team coming in which 163 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: we'll get into it during the week, and then it's 164 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: going to be a short we go into Seattle. They're 165 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: scuffling right now. But at the same time, I think 166 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: the Cardinals got to look at themselves and say, why 167 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: is this happening? You know, it's happened too many games 168 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: already this year and it has to stop. If this 169 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: team is going to be in the postseason. Second straight week, 170 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: this team has had to play from behind. They were 171 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: able to catch and overtake the Seahawks as far as 172 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: beating them, but they were not able to overtake the 173 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: Dolphins and the long run on Sunday. Yes, they took 174 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: the lead thirty one twenty four, but then the Dolphins 175 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: then score the next ten points to come away with 176 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: the victory, and that certainly was disappointing, to say the least, 177 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: with respect to what happened with the Arizona Cardinals before 178 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: we get more into our biggest takeaways and certainly the 179 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: frustration that the fan base is dealing with here on 180 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: this Monday morning. As we continue here on Cardinals Cover 181 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: two presented by Honday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 182 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: Let me make mention of this bird gang as we 183 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: talk about what Kyler Murray did do on Sunday. He 184 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: was so good he has been nominated for the FedEx 185 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: Ground Player of the Week. That's right, ground Player. One 186 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: hundred and six frushing yards almost ten yards a carry 187 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: plus a touchdown. If you want to vote for Kyler 188 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: Murray for the FedEx Ground Player of the Week, go 189 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: to NFL dot com. Slash fed x updates to the 190 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: latest version of the Cardinals mobile app today. The update 191 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: features an all new redesign home screen experience. Visit easy 192 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com slash app for more. All right, MJ, 193 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: let's get into it. It's the number one topic I 194 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: think that many fans have with respects to what happened 195 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: or maybe what didn't happen on Sunday. And that is 196 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: not the play calling, I'm gonna say, it's the decision making. 197 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: And obviously I'm talking about the decision to kick what 198 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: would be a potential game tying field goal rather than 199 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: go for it at Miami's own thirty one yard line. 200 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: And at the time I get it, maybe a couple 201 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: of years ago, I would have said, oh, yeah, you've 202 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: kicked the field goal. There, you go to overtime and 203 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: you try to win in and overtime. My feeling now is, 204 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: after seeing Kingsbury for a year and a half, he's 205 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: always been very aggressive. He will go for it. In fact, 206 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: he's now gone forward on fourth down ten times this season, 207 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: successful eight of those times, including two of three yesterday. 208 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: But to me, it seemed like he dialed it back, 209 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: went conservative bringing Zane Gonzalez to kick the field goal. 210 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: It regardless of whether it was made or missed. I 211 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: didn't like the decision to bring the field goal unit 212 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: onto the field. Now, do you want to get into analytics, 213 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: because what were the field goals said? When it comes 214 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: to analytics, Glad you asked, because there's actually two different 215 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: analytics that I saw. One is the ESPN win probability model. 216 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: They said attempting the field goal was the right decision 217 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: almost thirty nine percent compared to if they had gone 218 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: for it, then you're looking at thirty one percent. There's 219 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: this other website that works with football outsiders called e 220 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: d jsports dot com. Let me say that again, e 221 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: d jsports dot com, And they called that decision to 222 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: kick the field goal the worst decision of any head 223 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: coach of the weekend because it lowered the team's game 224 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: winning chance that's their metric, by twenty one point two percent. Now, 225 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: on the flip side, they thoroughly backed Kingsbury's decision to 226 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: go forth on fourth down the three previous times. In fact, 227 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: those were their top three decisions of the weekend. So 228 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: they loved Kingsbury and then they hated Kingsbury with respect 229 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: to decision making. Sounds like the fan base exactly. Very 230 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: well said again, play calling is so subjective. If you 231 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: want to break the plays down, I mean, first of all, 232 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: you want to go back to Kyler Murray. He was 233 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: getting rushed out of the pocket, and I watched it 234 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: again and then last night I said, he needs to 235 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: throw the ball away. Obviously he was getting rushed from behind. 236 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: You look at Manuel Oba, he was getting chased from behind, 237 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: and then you got Harris. But once you're getting outside 238 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: the pocket, you got to throw it away, so live 239 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: for another down. And again, if you look at Calvin Beecham, 240 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: m he looks like he didn't block very well there 241 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: in that situation. Now you want to go back to 242 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: the chase Edmonds again, the offensive line they didn't do 243 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do. And then I still think 244 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: Kyler should have made that pass to Christian Kirk on 245 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: third down. Now, that was the same play they ran 246 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: in the Lions game for a two point conversion to 247 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: tie the game up. Larry had a four yard touchdown 248 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: pass against the Lions. They went with that Christian Kirk 249 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: playing down, different down in distance location, But to me, 250 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: if Kyler makes that throw, they get the first down. 251 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: The ball it was, I mean, I don't know if 252 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: he felt pressured or just trying to get rid of it, 253 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: because you do have to throw a little bit on 254 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: the run, and obviously you know him and Kirk have 255 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: been on the same page on that play, but I 256 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: thought he should have been able to make that throw. Yeah, 257 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: it falls in complete, and immediately we're sitting there in 258 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: the broadcast booth, yourself, Rob Frederickson, Bertram Berry, and I 259 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: just assumed that they would go for it on fourth 260 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: and one at the Miami thirty one yard line. As 261 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: clock is kicking down and listening to day Pass and 262 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley. While they disagreed with the decision to go 263 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: forward on fourth down earlier in the game. They both 264 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: were expecting Kyler Murray and the offense to remain on 265 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: the field, and it just was such a shock to 266 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: see Zane Gonzalez come outs and we know he missed 267 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: the kick, and that's another discussion for maybe another day. 268 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: I just felt because we've seen Kingsbury go for it 269 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: and be aggressive, that we're now conditioned to expect that, 270 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: and then to see something opposite, you're like, well, what's 271 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: going on. Kingsbury asked about it the media after the 272 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: ball game, so they liked the look, and then brought 273 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: up again earlier today on Monday. Quote I felt good 274 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: about kicking there end quote. Gonna take him at his word, MJ. 275 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: Yet there's a part of me that wonders why because 276 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: it goes against everything that we've seen from you over 277 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: the last year and a half. Yeah, and that's something 278 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: I thought you really pointed out eloquently last night about 279 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: if you're going to do it next amount of times, 280 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: you know, you've got to be consistent with it. But 281 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: I think it's also the field of the game, and 282 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: forty nine yards is not a chip shot. No, I mean, 283 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: there's one thing for him to go wide right, wide 284 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: left or get it blocked or get it tipped. That's understandable. 285 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: They're rushing sometimes you're you know, Annie Lee has been 286 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: a really good holder, or Brewer has been a really 287 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: good long snapper. I have to go back to see, 288 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: you know that exchange frame by frame to see what 289 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: he was dealing with. But he needs to make that kick. 290 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I watched the ball and I 291 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: could see the goal posts and I'm watching this ball 292 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: and I think people at home thought it went in 293 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: because it and go wide left and wide right, and 294 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: I see it just take a dive before you know 295 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: the crossbars and the goal posts, and I'm like, how 296 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: did that? He didn't get to get a good kick 297 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: in there, because normally he could boot it. You know, 298 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: people are gonna say, well, that's he gets paid to do. 299 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: I think we're learning in college football in the NFL. 300 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to put these kickers 301 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: in this situation all the time. Now again, forty nine 302 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: yard or you go back and look for since you 303 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: know he's been with the Cardinals, he's ten for sixteen there, 304 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: what is he this year? Between forty and forty nine 305 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: he's five of eight now this season between forty and 306 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: forty nine yards. And to your point, there are some 307 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: teams that do have that kicker that is automatic. Heck 308 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: Field yesterday, Yeah, he was good from fifty six and 309 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: fifty yards. He certainly has a leg And I'm not 310 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: saying Gonzalez can't do it. He just hasn't shown it 311 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: consistent enough. That's where I think I would much rather 312 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: roll the dice with Murray as opposed to, all right, 313 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: here's the field goal kicker. Let's see if we can't 314 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: tie this ball game up. And I think that's where 315 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: a lot of the frustration came from. Whether it was 316 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: Murray which we saw and his postgame press conference, it 317 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: was very awkward to listen to and then watch again 318 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: several seconds I'm talking ten, fifteen seventeen seconds of just 319 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: dead air as he tried to compose himself and think 320 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: what he wanted to say because he was so frustrated 321 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: and wanted to win. And then the reports that DeAndre 322 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: Hopkins was upset on the sidelines, throwing things, kicking things. 323 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: That's all natural, I get it. I'm not going to 324 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: read into any of that. I just think what you 325 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: read into is the offense. Wanted to be on the 326 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: field to win or lose that ball game, not rely 327 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: on special teams. I get it. And if you want 328 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: to go back a couple of weeks ago, Cliff and 329 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: Kyler had a conversation on the sidelines and Kyler said, 330 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: I don't want you paraphrase, I don't want you to 331 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: be conservative. I do think the Cardinals were conservative in 332 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: at last three minutes of the game. Here's the quote 333 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: that you're talking about. This is Kingsbury post game against 334 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Quote he talking about. Murray told me basically, 335 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: don't ever be conservative again. I got you, and he 336 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: went out there and wanted at the end. He's fund 337 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: to coach, he's competitive, he wants to be great. End quote. 338 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: That was two weeks ago, and now all of a sudden, 339 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: it seems again to me that the conservative play calling 340 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: or decision making decision that's yes, because play calling is subjective. 341 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: You can call the great play. If it's not executed, 342 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: it falls apart. You can call the worst play. But 343 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: if you've got talented players on the field they run 344 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: it and it works, you're like, oh, what great play. Call. No, 345 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,239 Speaker 1: it's decision making as far as when it comes to 346 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: going forward on fourth down. And I think we've seen 347 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: time end and time again again Cardinals eight of ten 348 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: on fourth down. It's been very consistent all season long, 349 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: in fact, going back to maybe the middle of last 350 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: season in which Kingsbury got more comfortable and Kyler Murray 351 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: got more comfortable that you could throw more on his shoulders. 352 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: And I think more than anything, Murray wanted that game 353 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: on his shoulders yesterday and it was taken off of 354 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: his shoulders. No, I think you're reading the tea leaves, 355 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: because I would think the offense would want to go 356 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: back out there to see if they can get a yard. Now, 357 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds had an opportunity and he ran into Calvin Beecham. 358 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's execution. Again. I don't know if there's 359 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: any right or wrong answer, but I you know, again 360 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: less than I thought, you were really on point about 361 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: if you're gonna do this, you're going to be consistent 362 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: with it. And well, we're probably never gonna know why 363 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: he decided to kick that field goal. But and that's 364 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: such Zamee Gunzus has to make that kick. And going 365 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: back to what you said about Chase Edmonds, you know 366 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: it's third and one earlier. In that second half, you 367 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: should be able to gain one yard. Although let's look 368 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: at what Edmonds was able to do his first start 369 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: this season, his first start since his career day against 370 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: the New York Giants a year ago. Twenty five carries 371 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: for seventy yards. His longest run was six and we've 372 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: typically seen Edmonds break off several long runs and I'm 373 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, five plus yards. So I don't 374 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: know if it was the offensive line or the Dolphins 375 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: defensive line and just that defensive front, because several times 376 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: we saw six seven defenders crowd the line of scrimmage. 377 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes they would bring all of them, other times they 378 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: would drop three or four back. And I think there 379 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: was maybe some confusion at that line of scrimmage as 380 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: far as the assignments on where guys needed to be, 381 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: where they needed to block, and maybe those rushing lanes 382 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: weren't there that typically they have been this season. Yeah, 383 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: And going into the game, they were number one in 384 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: points allowed and Cardinals scored thirty one points on a 385 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: team that was only given up eighteen points per game. Yeah, 386 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: I mean, it's always interesting when it comes to a 387 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: backup quarterback and not in Arizona. Now, Okay, when Bradford 388 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: was here, people wanted to see Rose and I get it, 389 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: you know what's behind door number two. And I think 390 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: everyone wanted to see what Chase can do when he 391 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: hit the bulk of the carries, and they missed Kenyan 392 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: Drake for those hard, tough yards. Not saying Chase doesn't 393 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: do that, but there's a reason why. You know, he 394 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: was averaging maybe ten carries or touches a game. You know, 395 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: flew it. You know, I looked at him possibly as 396 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: a guy that could be year back next year. But 397 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: they don't. They didn't use um, you know, awarded in 398 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: the DJ Foster played five snaps. So it was really 399 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds and Kyler Murray the running game. And we 400 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: know Kyler Murray's going to have his way there. But yeah, 401 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: I do think they missed Kenyan Drake, And you know, 402 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: I was excited for Chase to get an opportunity. But 403 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: once again, you need that one two punch and one 404 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: two punch can't be your quarterback. He's got to be 405 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: He's got to be a luxury. So you know, I 406 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: didn't we knew that Anio Benjamin was not going to 407 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: play based on the inactors, but you know, awards basically 408 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 1: up there for special teams and Foster to me, he 409 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: can do a little bit of everything special teams, catch 410 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: the ball, run the ball. But clearly because of kyler 411 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: Is running ability, they didn't have any bells to turn 412 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: to where I think they would have trusted in a 413 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: big spot with Edmonds. It's one game, so it's a 414 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: small sample size and I don't want to draw any 415 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: broad conclusions here, but to your point about Kenyan Drake, 416 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: a much bigger back, maybe a little bit more physical 417 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: at the point of attack, and he's going to lower 418 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: the pad level, as Ron Wilfley likes to say, stick 419 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: his nose in the fan and try to drive it 420 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: forward for an extra yard or two when you only 421 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: needed one. I think Kenyan Drake would have gotten you 422 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: that one yard or two yards. And it's nothing against Edmonds, 423 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: but we've talked about how different they are as far 424 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: as their running ability, and no, you don't need a 425 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: running back by committee, but sometimes you do need that 426 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: different style of running back that's not the quarterback. Let's 427 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: take Kyler Murray out of the picture here. As far 428 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: as just rushing the football. The Cardinals only had seventy 429 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: two yards on the ground against Yes, a Dolphins defense. 430 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: That was good, but they've been given up almost five 431 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: yards every time an opponent rushed against them. So the 432 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: four point nine, Yeah, So I was expecting a little 433 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: bit more in the Cardinals running game aside from what 434 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray was able to do. Yeah, and now we 435 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: can get into you know, they brought in Chris Streveler previously. 436 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: You know I feel about that. I don't. I don't 437 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: take Kyler Murray off the field, and I don't want 438 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: him to become a decoy. But I understand they're trying 439 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: to protect him. Now, we watched Tua die for a 440 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: first down, and to me, you have to be underneath center. 441 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean, if it's two or three yards, maybe you 442 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: can be in the pistol where you can run that 443 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: read option where somebody's trailing him or if he's going 444 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: to get tackling, get rid of it. But I just don't. 445 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: I just want to know why doesn't Kyler Murray. Now 446 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: Tom Brady obviously he's much taller, and he was able 447 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: to mask it from just getting the ball over the 448 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: plane or over the first, you know who the marker is, 449 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: and maybe they don't want Kyler just diving into a 450 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: pile like that, but you saw ta do it. Kyler, 451 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: to me, looking at his upper body versus Twohig yesterday, 452 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: he seems like he's more much stronger in his upper body. 453 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: I guess you got to protect your investment. But you 454 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: know you just don't want to run east and west. 455 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: You want to go north and south. And to me, 456 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: if you're on the ball and you do a quick snap, 457 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: you can catch them. Maybe they're not getting an explosion 458 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: off the ball versus just go there and get off 459 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: the ball, and then you got to hit the pile. 460 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: And I think Kyler can get those first downds. The 461 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: other thing that Rob Frederickson pointed out on Cardinal Talk 462 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: on those short yardage why go out a shotgun. I 463 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: understand that's part of the offense, but why not go 464 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: under center? And if it's not Kyler, maybe it is 465 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: Chris Traveler, or find someone else, or a direct snap 466 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: Edmunds under center or someone else that's a bigger body. 467 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: We've joked about Lucky Foe too, who's got that rugby background. 468 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: Short yardage situation just get a fullback out there or 469 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: someone that can pound and push the pile forward, and 470 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: it not be a Kyler Murray because you don't want 471 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: them to take those unnecessary hits. Yet at the same time, 472 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 1: that quarterback sneak can be very effective and it can 473 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: certainly not only sustained drives but win you ball games. Yeah, 474 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: and if you're going to hand it off to someone 475 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: that's where the defense can get a push. It has 476 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: to be so quick where it's it's instincts. I mean, 477 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: and to me, I don't know what the percentage is, 478 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: but I'll take my chances. It's just really what you 479 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: gotta do is you gotta pick a spot. You want 480 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: to go to the right side or left side, and 481 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: you go between the center and the guard, and you 482 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: just hit. You just dive in there. And obviously you 483 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: hope you don't get you know, because it's not like 484 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: a safety or linebacker is going to come in here 485 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: and drill you. They that would be a late hit. 486 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: And again you're you're really going against the front four 487 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: or front three, depending on the defense. So you know, 488 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: there's a reason why they haven't had him do that 489 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: as much as we see other quarterbacks by the way, 490 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: as far as an update on Kenyan, Drake, Kingsbury called 491 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: him day today earlier here on this Monday. So what 492 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: does that mean? Who knows, but he's certainly dealing with 493 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: an ankle injury that perhaps, at least when it happened, 494 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: look like it might have been season ending. But now, 495 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: knock on wood, maybe it's just week to week and 496 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: if it's not this week, then perhaps the following week, 497 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: which would be a short week up in Seattle to 498 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: play the Seahawks on Thursday Night football. Yeah, I think 499 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: this week is important because you know, we'll see how 500 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: he's moving around, if he's on the practice field, we'll 501 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: see if he's got it any kind of designation. And 502 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 1: you got to make a decision because you basically they 503 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: have two games in five days, but you're bye week's over, 504 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: but you're you're gonna have and then you get a 505 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: little bit of break after you play on Thursday Night football. 506 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: But these games are so important in the next couple 507 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: of weeks. I mean, the last thing we want to 508 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: talk about two weeks from now, Craig is a five 509 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: and five team or just another missed opportunity, a game 510 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: that on paper, you should be beating and unfortunately you don't. 511 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: But knock on wood, that does not happen, especially in 512 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: Week ten with the Buffalo Bills coming to town again. 513 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: I said this last night, and clearly I was disappointed 514 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: in the outcome because I felt like the Cardinals have 515 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: a better team, but you still got to play sixty 516 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: minutes of football and they're they're gaining some momentum, and 517 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: I really like what they're doing with their head coach 518 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: and their defense and offense. But that was a missed opportunity. 519 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: But if we were sitting here in August and I said, Craig, 520 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: five and three, you got to play the San Francisco 521 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, you gotta play the Seahawks, and then 522 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a game against the Cowboys, which we 523 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: thought they would be better. Five and three at the break, 524 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: which you still got eight games. You still ten games 525 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: is still possible. But when I was driving home last night, 526 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: I know it sounds obvious, but that's six wins in 527 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: your first half put you kind of not in the 528 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: driver's seat. But all of a sudden, now you're not 529 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: looking up so much in the in the standings, people 530 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: are looking up at you and that didn't happen, and 531 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: that's disappointing. But all in all, they've shown flashes. They're 532 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: next sighting football team. It's not perfect. I do think 533 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: their identity is playing fast, physicality and aggressiveness, and maybe 534 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: the aggressiveness we didn't see as much in the last 535 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: three minutes of the game. But they're still in a 536 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: good position and Cliffs said today that they control their 537 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: own destiny. You know, so sky has not fallen. They're 538 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: not on a losing street. But to me driving home 539 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: last night, I was disappointed with that loss. Still, the 540 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: only team in the NFC was that is undefeated at 541 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: two and Oh Bird Gang. Make sure you subscribe to 542 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcast, Ditcher, 543 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: and SoundCloud. Listen to your favorite shows on the go 544 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: like Cardinals Underground, The Big Red Rage, The Cardinals Red 545 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: Sea Report, and of course this show Cardinals Cover two. 546 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: Visitasy Cardinals dot Com Slash podcast for more information. All right, 547 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: we know every team has injuries, and clearly the Dolphins 548 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: didn't have a couple of linemen. They didn't have their 549 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: top two running backs. I mean, we know the Chandeler 550 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: Jones been on the shelf, so can't really use him 551 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: as excuse. But we thought going into that game they 552 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: were going to have some issues with the secondary, just 553 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: based on who was starting and whether they're fourth, fifth, 554 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: or sixth train. I don't want to use his injuries 555 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: as an excuse though, but Kevin Peterson, he got exposed 556 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: and unfortunately he suffered a concussion. And then you had 557 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: Chase Whittaker out there, who's an undrafted free agent, and 558 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, he did get a lot of reps 559 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: in the slot. So and then you don't have Murphy 560 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: who's really settling in as a slot receiver. You don't 561 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: have Kennard who's really good against setting their edge and 562 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: he can pretty good in the run game. It's just 563 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: like this team has, you know, some death, but at 564 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: certain positions there's a drop off, a significant drop off 565 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: as well. Kingsbury after the ball game quote, we just 566 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: didn't get it done with respect to the cornerbacks. There 567 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: are no excuses. We brought Whittaker and Bosby in and 568 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: they had practiced all week knowing that was possibility. I'll 569 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: have to watch the film to see how they played. 570 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: End quote. I went back and look because a lot 571 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: made about you know, Noe Byron Murphy, No, Drake Kirkpatrick. 572 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: Don't forget Robert Offord is on the shelf. They haven't 573 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: had him all season long. But my point is when 574 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: you look at what the Cardinals had week one cornerback wise, 575 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson and Kevin Peterson the only two corners who 576 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: were A available yesterday and b had been with the 577 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: team since Week one. Go back to the start of 578 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: training camp, there were nine corners on the roster. The 579 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: two Petersons and Jace Whittaker the only healthy cornerbacks of 580 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: the nine who started training camp that were available for 581 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals yesterday against the Dolphins. And it's not like 582 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: they haven't gone out and brought guys in. I mean, 583 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: I think we're all waiting for Prince Amaka Mura. I 584 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 1: mean this point, it's on him. It sounds like, um, 585 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: they brought in Bosby, a guy that you know there's 586 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: a reason why he was available, but death. Chase Whittaker 587 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: again undrafted, free agent, undersized, but you know he was 588 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: playing a lot of slot in training camp. And that's 589 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: why it's so important. It just because you need you 590 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: need guys to cover on the outside in order to 591 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: do what you want to do in the front seven. 592 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: And I thought Jalen Thompson really I thought the guys 593 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: that had missed some time played well, Max Williams and 594 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson. According to Pro Football Focus, they grade it 595 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: out as high on one side of the ball as 596 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: the other. And I thought going into the game that 597 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: Max Williams was going to be on a pitch count, 598 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: and Kingsbury told us on Monday he was on a 599 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: pitch count. And then what can you say about Darrell Daniels. 600 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: He's made some mental errors in the last couple of weeks, 601 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: but a great catch, great throw. So it's just different guys. 602 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: But I just thought yesterday when it came to the 603 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: corners that was going to be an issue. And you know, 604 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: I respect Vans and he said he had a plan, 605 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: but we know how that works. And you know, one 606 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: of the receivers for the Dolphins he got hurt and 607 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: didn't return, and so you know, Parker's their number one guy. 608 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: And then obviously they're tight ends a big part of 609 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: their offense. But it's not like they had these weapons 610 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 1: where the Cardinals couldn't cover them. You're talking about Preston Williams. 611 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: He got hurt, suffered a foot injury on that touchdown 612 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: catch that made it twenty one to fourteen, and then 613 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: he was out for the rest of the ball game. 614 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: Quick update, you talked about Kevin Peterson. He is in 615 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: concussion protocol, so we'll have to wait and see how 616 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: that plays out. By Ray Murphy remains in COVID nineteen protocol. 617 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: He and Devon Kennard. As Wall Kingsbury said he was 618 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 1: quote hopeful that both of those players would be back 619 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: this week. We don't know for certain, although Kennard earlier 620 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: today tweeted, quote real close to getting my life back 621 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: exclamation point end of tweets. So that certainly would be 622 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: good because as we talk about the secondary, well, what 623 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,959 Speaker 1: would help the secondary a strong pass rush to keep 624 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: that quarterback off balance. And I'll give two a tongue 625 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: of aloha a lot of credit. He was very accurate 626 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: on the rollouts, and you talked about it. That's something 627 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals defense. They bite on those bootlegs rollouts 628 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it buys time and then 629 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 1: the Cardinals get out of the rush lanes and two 630 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: at that point has more windows to throw two or 631 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: as we saw a couple of times he could take 632 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: off and run. Yeah, and I'll tell you what. He 633 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: throws a good ball in that slam pass. That ball's 634 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: coming out and Campbell had him, he had him, and 635 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: then he just got by him. And then obviously there 636 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: were some mistackles there, but to Bondre Campbell, he had 637 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: him and almost in the grass. But that's how fluid 638 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: and elusive he is. And you know he was very 639 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: efficient twenty for twenty eight. Yeah, I mean he is 640 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: that what his numbers were, twenty to twenty eight for 641 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: two forty eight and two touchdowns and how many turns 642 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: no turnovers. That was the big thing that the Cardinals. 643 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: If they made mistakes and turned the ball over, that 644 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: could be the difference. Is obviously you spot them seven points, 645 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: you lose by three. Take care of the football. Yeah, 646 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: And I thought, you know, considering the Cardinals score ten 647 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: points to the third quarter and here you look at 648 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: the Dolphins they scored fourteen. I didn't you know the 649 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 1: games that they were winning, we saw some complimentary football. 650 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: We did not see complimentary football yesterday. Well what we 651 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: talked last week or two weeks ago with respect to 652 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: the Seahawks and that dramatic change from the first half 653 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: to the second half. Van Joseph pointed out that they 654 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: got the Seahawks on third down much more in the 655 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: second half that allowed them to dial some things up, 656 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: while Jordan Hicks made mention of it last night, what 657 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: was the difference on why the defense couldn't get to 658 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: Tua and kind of get the Dolphins off the field? Quote, 659 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: the problem is we have to get him to third down. 660 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: If you look at the way the game went, we 661 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: weren't getting him to third down. He's absolutely right. The 662 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: Dolphins four of eight on third down. They were one 663 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: of three in the first half, three of five in 664 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: the second half, and two of those third downs in 665 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: the second half came on one single drive in which 666 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: the Dolphins tied it up at thirty one. They converted 667 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: a third and nine and a third and four. Their 668 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: third down was too a sneak to seal of the victory. 669 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: So just not winning on first and second down to 670 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: put pressure on a young quarterback making his second career 671 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: starts first on the road. He felt comfortable. And if 672 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: you have a quarterback, regardless of how many years they've 673 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: been playing, they could eat up a defense and I 674 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: think you saw that a handful of times on Sunday. Yeah, 675 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: and that was the key against the Seahawks when they 676 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: went with that, you know, six defensive backs. That's when 677 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: we got a chance to see you know, Deontay Thompson 678 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: and Isaiah Simmons. And I'm glad you pointed it out. 679 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 1: One for three in the first half what Jordan Hicks 680 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: is saying, then in four for eight. You know, on 681 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: the other side, the Cardinals, they were five for eight 682 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 1: on third down in the first half, which is sixty 683 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: three percent. And then you know, you look at the 684 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: total game and took everything else. I mean, that wasn't 685 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: an issue, and the Cardinals only had nine possessions. I 686 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 1: have to go back and look long and surprisingly, Andy 687 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,479 Speaker 1: Lee only punted one time, and it was it wasn't 688 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: not a good punt either. You brought that up as 689 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: we were signing off on Cardinal Talk last night, and 690 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: he said, if I had told you Andy Lee only 691 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: punted once, what would do what would you predict? Well, 692 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: I would predict that the Cardinals win and win going away. 693 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: And it's great that Andy Lee only punted once, but 694 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: when he did punted, it was forty two yards and 695 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: it gave the Dolphins an opportunity to get a field 696 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: goal right before the first half expired. On the flip side, 697 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: the Dolphins had nine possessions, punted three times, and then 698 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: kicked two field goals of fifty or more yards. That's 699 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: five stops to a certain degree by that Cardinals defense, 700 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,439 Speaker 1: Yet they couldn't get the stop when it mattered most 701 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: the complimentary football that you talk about, yes, you've got 702 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: to get a stop every single time, and the onus 703 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: is on the defense. But they did stop them five 704 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,760 Speaker 1: times over nine possessions, which on the surface looks good. 705 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: Yet here we are talking about being disappointed because you 706 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: let one slip away. Mike Key going to the game, 707 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: they had to be able to run the football. You 708 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: take away Kyler wasn't very effective, and I do include 709 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: him in the running game, but I mean they had 710 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: they had to control the line of scrimmage, and in 711 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: at first half they didn't control the line of scrimmage. 712 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: You know, they were they were only getting you know, 713 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: minimal yardage unless Kyler was pulling something out of a 714 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: rabbit's hat, you know when his run style. Yeah, it's 715 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: just It's just disappointing because you know, he said to 716 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: delay an egg. You know, they came out and they 717 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: got him out three and out, okay, And so you know, 718 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: I don't remember gonna you know, the effort and energy sometimes, 719 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, guys got to create their own energy. But 720 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: I just didn't like the way the fourth quarter went 721 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: fourteen points. They had some opportunities, and then you know, 722 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: you're watching the play clock go down, and do you 723 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 1: ever think that Cliff was thinking, if we score here, 724 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave too much time on the clock for them. No, 725 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: I'd think at that point I was fully expecting Kyla 726 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: to be able to march to the team downfield. You 727 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: took over with three thirty and two timeouts, that's plenty 728 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: of time, and you just run your offense and score 729 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: and then you hope that the defense can come up 730 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: with the stop. Yet I'll give to a credit. At 731 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: the end of the first half, forty six seconds left 732 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: to go, one time out gets them in field goal range. 733 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: And then at the end of the ball game one 734 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: fifty three, two timeouts and they were able to milk 735 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: the clock out. So quite a statement made by the 736 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: Dolphins and their young quarterback, and unfortunately Kyle Murray not 737 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: able to make his own statement. Yeah, and that's unfortunate 738 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: because I'll tell you what, he played his heart out. 739 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he tried to wild his team. And you know, again, 740 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: I do think there's something about him wanting to be 741 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: on the field, ball in his hands on fourth down. 742 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: I do think there's something to that. By the way, 743 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: mister Hopkins, a lot of this offense is predicated on reps, reps, 744 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: reps and execution and you know, body language. To me, 745 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: he says a lot sometimes I don't know the conversations. 746 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: You know, quite frankly that that stuff happens all the time. 747 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: It gets caught on TV. Okay, I appreciate those guys 748 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: because Larry and Kylie were talking and then Hopkins and 749 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,479 Speaker 1: we're talking. So that to me is, hey, I see 750 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: something you may not see. Let's get on the same page. 751 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: But there are times when DeAndre Hoppis doesn't get the 752 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: ball and I see some bad body language and I 753 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: just don't know. You know, I understand it. You know, 754 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: he should be targeted X amount of times, and you 755 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: know the last game, hell, he was targeted twice for 756 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: twenty five yards in the first half, and you know, 757 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: he obviously is one of the best wide receivers in football. 758 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 1: But I do think when Christian Kirk and Max Williams 759 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: are out there, you got to spread the ball around. 760 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: But I just don't like the body language sometimes where 761 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: you know he'll take himself out of the game. Maybe 762 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: he's winded, or he just ran a deep route. I 763 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,240 Speaker 1: don't know. It's just I don't like the body language. 764 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: But I understand that. You know, when you're built like 765 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: that and you want to be great, you want the ball. 766 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they all want the ball, but you know 767 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 1: there's enough balls to go around. So I just hope 768 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: they can get on the same page there. So easier 769 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: to be okay when you're not targeted as much after 770 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: a win. But now here we are talking about a 771 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 1: loss and everything gets magnified. It's we discussed on Cardinal Talk. 772 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 1: It comes down to a handful of plays, literally three 773 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: to four or five plays the difference between a win 774 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: and a loss. And when you win, some of those 775 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 1: plays get forgotten and you just focus on the numbers, 776 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,959 Speaker 1: and when you lose, those plays get magnified, like the 777 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: decision to kick a field goal. That's supposed to go 778 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: for it on fourth and one. That is all parts 779 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: of the National Football League. It's why Bird Gang, we 780 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: love the game so much. You only get sixteen of 781 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,720 Speaker 1: these and that is why right now through eight games 782 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,720 Speaker 1: five and three. On the surface, yes, sounds great, Yet 783 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,720 Speaker 1: we know there have been games that this team missed 784 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: an opportunity to take a step forward here in year 785 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 1: two under Kingsbury and Kyler Murray. Yeah, and that started 786 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: with the Lions and because to me, that game could 787 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: have gone either way. The Lions game, now the Carolina game. 788 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: Give Carolina credit at that point in time. You know, 789 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: Ridgewater made more plays than Kyler did. They didn't have 790 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, but yesterday they put points on the board, 791 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: the move the football. Unfortunately, they just weren't able to 792 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: pick up these short yardage situations and that would have 793 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: kept drives going. They may have had another, you know, 794 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 1: two possessions or if the defense wasn't on the field 795 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: as much. Time of possession was pretty even across the board. 796 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 1: First hounds are pretty even across the board. So yardage wise, 797 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the Cardinals put up a tony of yards 798 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: into me. If you're a player, drive at home last night. 799 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: You're like, that was a missed opportunity. They squandered a 800 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: great opportunity to get to six wins, so unfortunate. Now 801 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see what this team does 802 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: in the days following to get ready for a very, 803 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: very good Buffalo Bills team coming up on Sunday. And 804 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: much more on that contest as we continue here on 805 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two. 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