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Speaker 1: Hoops Tonight, presented by Fandel here at the volume Happy Tuesday, everybody,

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Speaker 1: we actually got I. I guess you could technically call

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Speaker 1: that not a blowout in the sense that the starters

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Speaker 1: technically that was as boring a basketball game as you

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Speaker 1: I had seen this game coming. Based on a couple

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Speaker 1: of specific details. We're gonna get into all of that.

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Speaker 1: We're going to break this game down a little bit,

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Speaker 1: was a textbook. Mail in effort from the Warriors on

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Speaker 1: a bunch of different levels. Uh, we're gonna bring my

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the all NBA teams that

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Speaker 1: I did a whole thing last night might have been

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Speaker 1: But I had a feeling about tonight. I went on

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Speaker 1: Jason Kidd, want to get your thoughts on it. He says,

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Speaker 1: the biggest compliment we've gotten is that they have to

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Speaker 1: play zone because they can't guard us one on one.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about that, Jason, I think that's

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Speaker 1: foolish arrogance. Here's what actually happened. The game was over

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Speaker 1: and Steve Kerr played all of his young players. He

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Speaker 1: even played Nomania be Eliza has been out of the

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Speaker 1: rotation entirely because he's a traffic cone on defense. They

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Speaker 1: what it was, Moses Moody, Jonathan Comingau, it was, uh,

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Speaker 1: Nomania be Eliza, Jordan's pool and I can't remember who

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Speaker 1: the fifth guy in that lineup was, oh, Damian Lee.

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Speaker 1: So all guys that are out of the rotation basically

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Speaker 1: except for Jordan Poole. And I thought Steve Kerr was

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Speaker 1: just like, hey, guys, run three two zone on the

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Speaker 1: entire fourth, Like, just work on it, you know, just

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Speaker 1: work on being in the right spots. You guys already.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was literally what that was. I thought

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr was using the fourth quarter as a practice. Now,

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Speaker 1: what's actually happening over the course of the series is

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr is repeatedly bouncing back and forth between zone

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Speaker 1: and man. He mixes it up routinely, and if he

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Speaker 1: actually stayed in a three two zone consistently against Dallas's starters,

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Speaker 1: they'd burn it. They'd light it on fire like because

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Speaker 1: eventually every zone. There's a reason why NBA teams don't

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Speaker 1: run zone is a base defensive I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: think we've ever seen one. And can you remember a

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Speaker 1: single team in recent NBA history run zone as a

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Speaker 1: base look, I can't think of a single one. So

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Speaker 1: the reason why is because professional basketball players are too

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Speaker 1: good to play his own against Zones are designed to

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Speaker 1: do one of two things. At three two zone or

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Speaker 1: pretty much any odd front zone is designed to take

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Speaker 1: away three point shooting, and he even front zone is

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Speaker 1: designed to take away the paint. That's that's generally the

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Speaker 1: concept of his zone, and against each of them, they're

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Speaker 1: the there's the coaching is too high level, the offensive

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Speaker 1: execution is high too high level. And the skill level

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Speaker 1: of the players is too high level for any of

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Speaker 1: those zones to work if they get repeated looks at it.

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Speaker 1: The genius of Steve Kurd using the zone as he

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Speaker 1: mixes it up now I was critical of them earlier

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Speaker 1: in the show. Jason Kidd has done a terrible job

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Speaker 1: of navigating the UH against the three two zones. So uh,

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Speaker 1: Carson as you as you probably know, offensively against his zone,

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to go the opposite of whatever the front is.

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Speaker 1: So against a two three zone, so an even front,

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Speaker 1: you want to have an odd dispersion, So you want

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Speaker 1: to have one guy up top, two guys on the wing.

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Speaker 1: That makes those two guys on the top of the

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Speaker 1: zone have to constantly make decisions about who they're guarding, right.

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Speaker 1: And then if it's the opposite, if it's a three

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Speaker 1: two zone, you want to go two guys out front,

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Speaker 1: and you want to go one in the middle, almost

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Speaker 1: like a dice, like I think of like a dice,

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Speaker 1: the number five on a dice. You want a guy

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Speaker 1: in the middle of flour, a guy in both deep corners,

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Speaker 1: and two guys at the top. And that's just not

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Speaker 1: what they were doing. Dallas was literally running like a

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Speaker 1: five out concept against their three two zone. They were

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Speaker 1: screening the top man of the three two zone, which

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Speaker 1: is like ridiculous because what happens if you come off

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Speaker 1: that screen the other dude in the zone is just

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Speaker 1: right there. It literally accomplishes nothing. And so I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's just because they haven't seen the look

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Speaker 1: enough that Jason Kidd hasn't really employed a good zone

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Speaker 1: offense again against it. What I actually think is happening

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Speaker 1: in the flow of the game is by the time

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Speaker 1: they identify there in his zone, there's already like twelve

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Speaker 1: seconds left on the shot clock, and they just don't

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Speaker 1: have enough time to really get set up um And

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Speaker 1: and part of the issue here too is like the

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Speaker 1: pace of the game that Luca plays at, you just

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Speaker 1: don't have enough time to adjust once you get across

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Speaker 1: half court. There's just never enough time left. The playoffs

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Speaker 1: given the way the series has gone overall, and given

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Speaker 1: how they handled the zone, but also their man man

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Speaker 1: has looked fantastic. Yeah, I know, it's it's great points

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Speaker 1: all around, ja kids living on his own planet, you

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Speaker 1: gotta have some of that foolish arrogance maybe to succeed

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Speaker 1: at the level he has. I don't know a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys see him too. Okay, so we talked about

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Speaker 1: some of the biggest factors overall coming up in Celtics heat.

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Speaker 1: Let's look specifically at the star matchup that we have

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Speaker 1: between Jimmy Butler and Jayson Tatum. Jason, Who do you

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Speaker 1: think is under more pressure to perform in Game five

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Speaker 1: between those two? Uh? Jason Tatum, no question. A couple

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Speaker 1: of things. Jimmy Butler, his legacy is kind of in

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Speaker 1: stone at this point. He's just he's considered one of

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Speaker 1: the best non superstars of all time. Like he's just

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Speaker 1: he's your textbook non super perstar that in any environment

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Speaker 1: can rise to the level of a superstar and potentially

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Speaker 1: carry a team, you know, to the next level. A

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Speaker 1: couple of things. Tatum is newly inflicted with superstar expectations.

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Speaker 1: And then too, like Boston's way better. Boston is so

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Speaker 1: much better. Like if both if you played, if this

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Speaker 1: was if there was a single elimination game on a

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Speaker 1: neutral court and both teams were guaranteed to bring one effort.

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Speaker 1: I picked Boston by at least fifteen. Like they're just

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Speaker 1: they're just better, They're just way better. They're just so

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Speaker 1: much better. So like the pressure here is like and

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Speaker 1: by the way, Boston is not out of the woods yet.

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Speaker 1: I think Boston's gonna win tomorrow, and I think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna win game five or six. That's where I expect

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Speaker 1: to happen. But like, would you be the least bit

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Speaker 1: shocked if they went into Miami tomorrow, came out a

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Speaker 1: little bit slow, Miami shot well, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: the're up fifteen. All of a sudden, the Poems get sweaty.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, they get a little sloppy, the

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Speaker 1: crowd gets into it. It's close game, you know, a

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Speaker 1: couple of guys make some shots at the end and

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Speaker 1: they win. No, I wouldn't be shocked. And then you're

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Speaker 1: looking at a guaranteed game seven, even if you win

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Speaker 1: game six. Right, So, like they're not out of the

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Speaker 1: woods yet, and and so Tatum has to close this deal,

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Speaker 1: and quite frankly, if he doesn't, this is a massive

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Speaker 1: black mark on his resume as a guy who is

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Speaker 1: now at the superstar level. You're not Luca. You've been

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Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference finals twice before this. Okay, you've

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Speaker 1: gone against Lebron James. I've gone against the same Miami

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Speaker 1: Heat team. You don't get that I'm new on the block.

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Speaker 1: Excuse you don't get any of that now. I expect

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Speaker 1: Jayson Tatum to rise to the to the occasion and

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Speaker 1: to close this deal. But there's no question that Jayson

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Speaker 1: tatums under more pressure. How much swing do you think

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Speaker 1: there is and the potential for how we view Jayson

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Speaker 1: Tatum depending on just how the remainder of his post

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Speaker 1: season goes, like best to worst case scenario, what is

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Speaker 1: the variation there and how could that potentially change, like

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Speaker 1: the conversations that we're having about out him. So the

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Speaker 1: worst case scenario we just went over that it's a

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Speaker 1: big black mark on his resume. And then and then

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Speaker 1: essentially you know how that goes, Like from that point forward,

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Speaker 1: everyone like you're just constantly clawing yourself out of that hole.

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Speaker 1: You're no longer the you know, there's kind of like

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Speaker 1: a pathway in uh in the in the career trajectory

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Speaker 1: of an NBA superstar, it's like you're the darling and

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Speaker 1: then you know, you have some losses and your get

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Speaker 1: cut slack for them. But then there's like the loss

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Speaker 1: that's like one loss too many, and then like everyone

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Speaker 1: turns on you, and then suddenly the flash like gets

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Speaker 1: shined on all of your weaknesses. Right, we're kind of

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Speaker 1: starting we might this. I don't think this is it

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Speaker 1: yet for Luca, but we're like one playoff exit from

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Speaker 1: Luca away. Like if he if he if he lost

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Speaker 1: in the second round next year, I think that I

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Speaker 1: think the public would turn on Luca pretty quick as

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Speaker 1: a guy who's to helleocentric and doesn't defend well enough. Um.

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Speaker 1: But like that's kind of the situation that Tatum's in.

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Speaker 1: I think Tatum's kind of at that point now, Like

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Speaker 1: if he loses this series to Miami, there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of people calling him a fraud. Now, what

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Speaker 1: what him winning a title this year would remind me

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Speaker 1: of is kind of like what Kawhi Leonard did with

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Speaker 1: the Raptors in two thousand nineteen. Now, Kauai has demonstrated

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Speaker 1: that he's been a better regular season player. He was

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Speaker 1: an m VP candidate in previous seasons, may or may

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Speaker 1: not have been the rightful winner in the two thousand

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Speaker 1: seventeen year when when Russell Westbrook won. So like I

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Speaker 1: it's they're not a it's not a perfect apples apples comparison,

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Speaker 1: But what it would remind me of is like, because like,

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Speaker 1: what is the two thousand, twenty two thousand nine UH

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Speaker 1: title for Kawhi Leonard? Like if you look at it

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Speaker 1: in isolated by itself, it's a supreme accomplishment, like unquestionably

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Speaker 1: the best player on the team that won the championship

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Speaker 1: against a good team and unquestionably deserved finals MVP in

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Speaker 1: superstar fashion. Right, but every everyone around that not like

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Speaker 1: there was some Kauai is the best player in the world.

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Speaker 1: Buzz I never bought into that. I I didn't think

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Speaker 1: he was nearly good enough of a playmaker. What I

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Speaker 1: thought he was in twenty nineteen was the tip of

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Speaker 1: a spear, and the spear was arguably one of the

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Speaker 1: most talented spears in the league, right, And as the

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Speaker 1: tip of the spear, he was clearly the best player

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Speaker 1: and he was able to push them over the top.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think I didn't think he was close

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Speaker 1: to as good as Kevin Durant or Lebron and that

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Speaker 1: was proven to be true in the in the subsequent seasons.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, like he's to me, he's clearly just

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Speaker 1: just not quite as good as those guys. Right, that's

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Speaker 1: kind of where I would see Tatum at here, Like,

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Speaker 1: if you want a title, it'd be an it would

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Speaker 1: be an unassailable, definitively best player on the best team,

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Speaker 1: in the league finals, MVP, all of that stuff. But

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Speaker 1: is anybody gonna think Tatum is the best player in

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Speaker 1: the league now? You know? So you might have your

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Speaker 1: Boston fans will, but like, so that's kind of the

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Speaker 1: way I see it is, like, I Jason Tatum to

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Speaker 1: me is having a two thousand nineteen Kauai asked a

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Speaker 1: playoff run if he closes the deal. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a great comparison, and we've thrown that out there before

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Speaker 1: a couple of times. But stylistically, in terms of the

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00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: role the prototype they are as players, the two way

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00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: impact and the incredibly talented supporting cast, but not having

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Speaker 1: that second, you know, remotely superstar caliber guy. There's definitely

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00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: a lot of commonalities there. So another story with Tatum

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Speaker 1: today is that he is first team All n b

646
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Speaker 1: A and he is part of an incredibly young group

647
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Speaker 1: there all five guys that being Tatum, Luca, Book, Janice,

648
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: and Yoki t seven or younger. So Jason, with that

649
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: youth movement that we have seen and we've talked about

650
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: the transition of eras that we're kind of witnessing in

651
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: these playoffs as well. Out of those five guys, you

652
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Speaker 1: get one of them for the rest of their career,

653
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Speaker 1: Who are you taking? It's such a good question, So

654
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Speaker 1: I think the answer is Jannie. But I have one caveat.

655
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Speaker 1: I think I think Janice is almost guaranteed to be

656
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: the best player out of that group for the rest

657
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: of his career, but that it was I would say

658
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: that irrespective of general management, meaning irrespective of roster around him.

659
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: But if I was told that I had a team

660
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Speaker 1: full of amazing role players that could defend and shoot,

661
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Speaker 1: and I needed one guy, I would probably take Luca strictly,

662
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: because I think his half court surgery is such a

663
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Speaker 1: ceiling razor for already talented teams. We talked about this

664
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Speaker 1: last night, Like this Dallas construct is kind of genius

665
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: for me in the sense that the way they space

666
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: the floor, the way that they attack matchups, it's kind

667
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: of like built to succeed in the playoffs, right, So

668
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Speaker 1: I do think that I would want Janice if I

669
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Speaker 1: was building from scratch, if I was told that I

670
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: already had like the two thousand nineteen Raptors, and I

671
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: needed one guy. I think I would take Luca because

672
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: I think the way that he could elevate the team

673
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Speaker 1: in the half court while carrying water for them on

674
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Speaker 1: the defensive end, but covered for Actually, Carson, you brought

675
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: this up last night, and we were already in the

676
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Speaker 1: weeds on something else, so I didn't want to get

677
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: into it. But you said, you said I favor offense

678
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: over defense a little bit, so I do too. For

679
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: the record, I I where I draw the line is

680
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: defensive liability. But if I could have a supremely talented

681
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Speaker 1: offensive player who could hold his own on the defensive end,

682
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: or a less talented offensive player who was a great

683
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: defensive player, I would take the offensive player. And and

684
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: the reason why is you can it's so much easier

685
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: to coach up the defensive end of the floor. Look

686
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: at what Dallas has done. Look at how they've convinced

687
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: this mediocre defensive team to defend pretty well. Although they've

688
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: got they've been exposed by Golden State as lacking personnel

689
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: in this series. But the point is is, like there's

690
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: I can't coach guys into making shots, you know, like

691
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: we I would even say that you can't even coach

692
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: guys in terms of running sets to get good like

693
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: to get good looks in the playoffs because of scouting

694
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: in the way that physicality is allowed off the ball

695
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: and how much team switch. It's just sets are far

696
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: less effective than they are in the regular season. That

697
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: what what works in the playoffs offensively is how how

698
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: much your top end talent can absorb at tension, you know.

699
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Speaker 1: And so from that standpoint, like UH, in the in

700
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Speaker 1: the specific environment of that top end UH defensive talents

701
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: already on the roster, I think a guy like Luca

702
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: would raise a ceiling higher than a guy like Janice would.

703
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: But that's that dude, Like, how often do we see

704
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: teams that are perfectly put together? Not very often, so

705
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Speaker 1: like I guess, I guess another way to frame that

706
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: answer would be to say, I think Luca could beat

707
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Speaker 1: your honest in a playoff series if he had a

708
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Speaker 1: really good defense behind him because of the fact that

709
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Speaker 1: his he could raise the ceiling on offense. But I

710
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: do think you honest is the better overall basketball player.

711
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: That's a super interesting perspective, I think, and to me,

712
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: those are the two choices as well, as much as

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Speaker 1: I love Niko Yokis, you have the best player in

714
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: the world in Janice, and I think the guy who

715
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Speaker 1: has the highest offensive ceiling in Luca, and is also

716
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Speaker 1: four years younger than Janice, so there is an advantage there.

717
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: So that's again interesting because I thought for a time

718
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Speaker 1: with The Honest that there was an argument that maybe, well,

719
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: definitely he needed more around him offensively, right, and that

720
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: we've seen what Luca can do with shooting and just

721
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: you know, like competent secondary creation and how he can

722
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: propel that to an elite offense. I mean, his second

723
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: year in the league, he led the MAVs to have

724
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: the highest offensive rating ever at the time, like it

725
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: was an unbelievable accomplishment. Whereas Janice we saw some of

726
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: the areas in which he could be exploited as a

727
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: half court creator and whatnot, and he does need some

728
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: of that permanent creation and big time shot making alongside him.

729
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: So you think Luca needs more right around him, needs

730
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Speaker 1: more talent around him to be like best guy on

731
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Speaker 1: a title team than The Honest does. Yeah. Absolutely, But

732
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: at the same time, like we talked about earlier, which

733
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Speaker 1: I think we talked about how Luca was vying to

734
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Speaker 1: pass Lebron and Steph as the best offensive engine in

735
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: the league, right, and Steph I think has proven in

736
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: this series that he's a better offensive engine still, so

737
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: Luca hasn't quite gotten to that point. But again we're

738
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Speaker 1: step is not an option in this list, and we're

739
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Speaker 1: looking forward with this group of five players, which, by

740
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: the way, it's super cool that all these young guys

741
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: made first team All NBA. I think that's such a

742
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: cool indicator of where the league is going and that

743
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: it's healthy and in good hands. Um. But the point is,

744
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: like Luca as an offensive engine here this perfect example,

745
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: Janice averaged with the Bucks eight two points per one

746
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: d half court possessions against Boston. Do you think there's

747
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: any chance in the world that Luca doesn't manage at

748
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: least a ninety or hundred offensive rating against Boston, Like

749
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: I think they'd lose. Still, you know, I think janice

750
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: Is overall impact in that series was better. But like

751
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: in terms of strictly uh a strictly half court offensive creation,

752
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: what Luca brings to the table I think is superior

753
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Speaker 1: to what Janice brings. Yeah, with you there completely and

754
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: you mentioned how cool it is to have such young

755
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: representation on this first team Listen, I think that's kind

756
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: of undeniable. But as you look at these five, do

757
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: you have any issues with it? Anything you would change

758
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: about the first Team All NBA this year? Oh? I

759
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: hated it. So I think it's cool that the that

760
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: the young guys got on in terms of this, like,

761
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of a cool moment in NBA history. But

762
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: I thoroughly disagree with the list. Like you know, I

763
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: I tend to follow the Bill Simmons ideology that the

764
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: All NBA teams should just strictly be essentially player rankings.

765
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: Like I think they should be a snapshot of like

766
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: first Team All NBA is, who are the five best

767
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: players in basketball that season? Second Team All NBA's who's

768
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: the you know, ten best players in basketball that season.

769
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: That's that's the way that I would do that. So

770
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody thought Devin Booker was a top

771
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: five player in the NBA this year. I think that's ridiculous.

772
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: I think even like, like even if we look past

773
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: that too to Steph. So for instance, like Steph, in

774
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: my opinion, even though he didn't shoot as well as

775
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: he did in previous years. There's even his diminished self

776
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: this season was significantly better overall as a basketball player

777
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: in my opinion, And Devin Booker, so I think that's ridiculous.

778
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: I could go further, like Lebron James was. Yes, he

779
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: played on a terrible team. Yes he wasn't as good

780
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: defensively as he was in previous seasons, but he was

781
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: a top ten player this year. Like I thought, he

782
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: played better basketball overall than DeMar de Rosen did. Now,

783
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: DeMar de Rosen had a great season, had some good

784
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: playmaking was it was great, and clutch time had an

785
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: amazing scoring season. His team was better. I hundred percent

786
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: agree with you there. I didn't think Tomarta Rosen was

787
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: better at basketball than Lebron James this season. That's just

788
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous to me. Jayson Tatum as great as he was,

789
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: and again there's there's a game's played thing here happening

790
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: that gets complicated where I could see why Tatum was

791
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: above Kevin Durant. But when I put my list together,

792
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: I had Kevin Durant first team. Why because that Kevin

793
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: Durant was one of the top five players in the

794
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: NBA this year. When he was available. Now, the one

795
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: thing that gets tricky is the center issue that the

796
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: Yoki Chen beat thing. And and I do believe that

797
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: you should at least try to functionally have basketball lineups

798
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: represented in this list, But yeah, like those are those

799
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: are just like I just tend to think that these

800
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: should more reflect essentially player rankings rather than like, you know,

801
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: team achievement awards, Like there has to be something separate

802
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: from team accomplishment in the NBA, and I thought that

803
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: this would be. I could think that this is where

804
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: that should reside unequivocally agree with you there. And the

805
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: book Steph one, I think is pretty glaring to me

806
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: because it's such a product of arrative. Like if you

807
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: sit down and think critically, their raw production is like

808
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: effectively identical Steph even with his downshooting years more efficient

809
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: by true shooting percentage. The on off dat is so overwhelming.

810
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: It's so obvious how fundamentally important he is as an

811
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: offensive engine to just a different level than Book. But

812
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: you know, the Sons are the best team. Book didn't

813
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: even have a significant games played advantage, and that did

814
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: make this year weird because it's like everybody missed at

815
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: least ten games pretty much, but it feels like you

816
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: can adjust for that and maybe just say, okay, well,

817
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: if everybody's missing games, maybe it doesn't matter quite as much.

818
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: I think that last point that you made is interesting

819
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: though about trying to have a functional basketball lineup, because

820
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: I think I'm even more all in on the philosophy

821
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: of this should be who are the best players in basketball?

822
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: I think that there have been a ton of times

823
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: throughout history, you know, where you have two fours together, right,

824
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: because how could you avoid that? Throughout the two thousand

825
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: you gotta have some combination of KG, Tim, Duncan, and

826
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: Dirk on the first team every single year. That's a

827
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: really weird, clunky kind of lineup. So I just think

828
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: and Bead should have been here, Like Jayson Tatum first

829
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: twenty something games sucked and then he was phenomenal post

830
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: All Star Break, but Embid was consistently clear top five guy.

831
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Speaker 1: To not have him here because of a dated, you know,

832
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: positional system, I feel it's dated is really another complaint

833
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: I would have. That's fair, and that's definitely not something

834
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm as passionate about, So I would be I would

835
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: be with you in that regard, and I guess at

836
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: that point you could even argue that embiad should be

837
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: in over Steph. Um. But like I thought, another big

838
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: thing that on the step another big thing on the

839
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: Steph Booker thing, like like the Phoenix Suns stayed healthy

840
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: all season, they were a machine, with the exception of

841
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: the end of the season when Chris Paul was out,

842
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: and even then they were great because, as we said

843
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: frequently on the show, I thought the Sun's top to bottom,

844
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: I had the most talent in the league, obviously not

845
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: counting the superstars, right, And so from that standpoint, like

846
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 1: when you talk about what Steph had to weather through

847
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: this season, like what he had to deal with in

848
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: terms of guys being in and out of the lineup,

849
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: trying to work Clay back into the system, trying to

850
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: work Jordan's Pool back into the system in a bigger

851
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: role that he had rightfully earned. Like I thought, Steph

852
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: did an amazing job navigating a really, really difficult season

853
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: and did do. The degree of difficulty to what Steph

854
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: had to do this year was significantly higher than what

855
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: Devin Booker did, and that's never factored in enough we

856
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 1: the winning culture. I totally get and I think it's

857
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: so important to not lose sight of that, Like you can't.

858
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: You can't just walk through life making excuses about uh

859
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: results in winning and losing, because that's you're you're just

860
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: not doing yourself any favors there. I get that. But

861
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: at the same time, like I do think it's important

862
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: context and it is worth having that conversation. Like, like,

863
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: to me, the conversation surrounding Lebron and the Lakers is like, yeah,

864
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: Lebron's a terrible GM. Him pushing for the Russell Westbrook

865
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: move was a terrible decision. He also dropped fifty a

866
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: few times this year and was one of the best

867
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: offensive players in the league. Like it just that has

868
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: to be. That has to be, Like, it's Lebron didn't

869
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: stop playing good basketball Like that not to me, Like

870
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: we we too often allow ourselves to and it I

871
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: understand it. Winning is is why we do this. We

872
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: play the game to win. You play to win the game,

873
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: as as the cliche goes, right, But at the same time, like,

874
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: especially with these kinds of lists, I do think it's

875
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: important to apply the appropriate context. Like had had the

876
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: Warrior stayed healthy, guess what they would have beat the

877
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: Suns in the standings in my opinion, so like to me,

878
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: it's that simple. Yeah, And I think their record when

879
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: Stephan Draymond was healthy reflects that. So you mentioned Lebron.

880
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: He was honored just third team, as you said. But

881
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: do you think this will be the last All NBA

882
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: team that Lebron makes Jason, If so, it'll be because

883
00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: of injury. I think Lebron has one fine, anal truly

884
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: great m v P caliber season in him. A couple

885
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: of reasons why. One, he still looked great athletically this year. Two,

886
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: I think I think we are going to see a

887
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: motivated Lebron that we saw in two thousand twenty, Like

888
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: consistently in Lebron's career, when you put a couple of

889
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: factors together, recent humiliation combined with appropriate talent surrounding him,

890
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: that that allows Lebron to believe in the mission. Those

891
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: things mixed together to make I motivated Lebron. Lebron was

892
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: humiliated in two thousand nineteen to the point where I

893
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: keep blanking on his name every time I try to

894
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: bring it up. So Carson, if you can remember, tell me.

895
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: But that swing forward to the Europeans swing forward from

896
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: the Knicks that blocked him on the game winner in

897
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: Madison Square. Garden Um, he remember the do you remember

898
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: how to talk about I can't think of his name,

899
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: but I don't remember who it was. Oh my gosh,

900
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: this is gonna kill me. So anyway, he blocked Lebron.

901
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: He got in trouble for bringing Wine to the bench.

902
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: He you know, said I'm activating playoff mode. Remember the

903
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: whole Instagram post that he did. And then immediately they

904
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: went like two and thirteen to end the season or

905
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: something like that. Like like so the way I see it,

906
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: like he came out of that got Anthony Davis. So

907
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: he saw a championship opportunity and was motivated by his

908
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: recent failures and it amounted in such a dominant like

909
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: that Lebron season was such an incredible start to finish

910
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: dominant season. I'm on the record that I thought he

911
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: absolutely deserved the m v P over Janice. That was

912
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: a incredibly weak Eastern Conference that massively inflated all of

913
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: Janice's advanced metrics and massively inflated the record for the Bucks.

914
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: The Lakers were basically right there with them in the

915
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: standings in the significantly tougher conference. You know that. Like, remember, guys,

916
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: you play thirty games against the other conference, you play

917
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: fifty two against your own conference. Okay, so the conferences

918
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: are a huge impact on things like metrics on things

919
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: and the standings. Like you can't just take it at

920
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: face value. Right, So, like that was as dominated season

921
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: as it gets. This coming year, you have humiliated missed

922
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs, literally missed the playoffs. When twenty of the

923
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: thirty teams get in, Okay, you have Lebron and Anthony

924
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: Davis on the roster. I think they're gonna flip Russell

925
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: Westbrook for quality role players like and we literally saw

926
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins, who was a massively overplayed role player in

927
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: Minnesota a contract that nobody wanted, suddenly playing well in

928
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: a as a super functional two way wing in the

929
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: Warrior system. That's the kind of guy that that the

930
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: Lakers need to be targeting, like inflated contracts for role

931
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: players that were missed cast as stars. Try to get

932
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: those types of guys back. I think the Lakers are

933
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: gonna come back and have a good amount of talent,

934
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna have one last final super

935
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: motivated Lebron season. Here's the problem. If his knee inflates

936
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: on him for no particular reason and he only plays

937
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: fifty two games, then he might not make an All

938
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: NBA team. So if the question is is he going

939
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: to make an All NBA team if he stays healthy

940
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: for one more year, I believe he'll be first team

941
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: All NBA next year. I think that that's perfectly logical.

942
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: And by the way, it was the great Maria Hasnia

943
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: who made Mario All time draft bust. Of course, gotta

944
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: love that guy. I'm with you completely, and I just

945
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: think you look at all the complaints about Lebron this

946
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: year in the areas in which he fell short, and

947
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: it's you know, consistent defensive engagement, rights, leadership stuff, stuff

948
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: that you harped on a bunch in terms of offensive versatility,

949
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: in terms of his scoring peak and efficiency, and what

950
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: he can still do as a playmaker, Like there's no

951
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: question that Lebron win motivated plays at a top five level,

952
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: and so like you said, if he just does that

953
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: for a full year, then he should be recognized accordingly.

954
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 1: And I think you never know with like just how

955
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: prolonged peaks have become in modern sports, but I'm tentative

956
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: to even say to put a hard limit at one

957
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: more year, Like we just don't know. I don't know

958
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: when Lebron is gonna fall off because we have never

959
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: seen guys playing for as long at this high level

960
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: period and have never seen anybody playing individually close to

961
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: the level that Lebron is at in year nineteen and

962
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: at his age. So I think we will certainly see

963
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: all NBA Lebron again. Yeah, I feel confident that there

964
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: will be one more. But yeah, I'm with you, Like,

965
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: would I'd be shocked if in year twenty one Lebron was,

966
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: you know, averaging seven and seven. No, I wouldn't be

967
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: shocked at all. And you know, the motivation thing is

968
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: going to be, Yeah, it's insane, but like the the

969
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: the big indicator will be training camp and you'll know

970
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: right away. And like people act like that stuff doesn't matter.

971
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: It does, like the preseason doesn't matter. Well, guess what

972
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: the twenty and everybody's asked in the preseason and the

973
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: Lakers were losing literally to everybody in the preseason. It's

974
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: just to me, like, even if the stars aren't playing,

975
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: it's an indicator of the level of focus you have

976
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: in training camp in practice, because even if Lebron and

977
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: Russ and Anthony Davis didn't play in all the preseason games,

978
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: if you were approaching practice with the right level of

979
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: intensity every single day, you would have won two or

980
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: three of those preseason games just by playing hard and

981
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: just by defending really well. And they just did it,

982
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: and and it was predictable that they'd come out the

983
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: gates in the regular season and do the same thing.

984
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: So I expect a locked in Lebron to start next season,

985
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: and I think the Lakers will have one last great run.

986
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: All right, guys, that is all we have for tonight.

987
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,239
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