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Speaker 1: week's episode. Now. I know I always say this about

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Speaker 1: every episode, but I am really excited about this week's episode,

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Speaker 1: as my guest will be sharing her journey on becoming

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Speaker 1: a paranormal investigator. So to my guests, how are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I am doing wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. Thank you for bringing

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Speaker 1: me on here. Yes, y'all, I am super excited. Y'all

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Speaker 1: know I love ship like this, and I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: us to be sharing her experience within this field. So

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Speaker 1: normally I would like to start with the listeners knowing

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Speaker 1: more about your profession, but I think it's important for

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Speaker 1: us to start at the beginning, when you were first

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Speaker 1: exposed to paranormal activity. So tell us about the house

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Speaker 1: you grew up in. Oh, my god. So, Um, my

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Speaker 1: mother and father were from Kansas City, Missouri. My mom

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Speaker 1: and dad had nine kids, so our family was constantly expanding,

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Speaker 1: decent area, better school district. And when we moved into

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Speaker 1: all of me and my siblings where stairs seppers were

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Speaker 1: you know, a very crowded home. It was. It was

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Speaker 1: seven of us at that time, and my mom was pregnant.

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Speaker 1: And when we first moved into this house day one,

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Speaker 1: we noticed something was really weird about it. You know,

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Speaker 1: even though I was four years old, I was very

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Speaker 1: wuldn't be versed in. So when we moved into this house,

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Speaker 1: activity happened day one. We started seeing the dark shadows

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Speaker 1: my father, he was such a He rolled with an

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Speaker 1: we couldn't talk to my dad about it. Anytime we

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Speaker 1: running around house. You know, granted we was. It was

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Speaker 1: So it was almost like the previous tenants was trying

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Speaker 1: But again, my dad was so dismissive of everything, every

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Speaker 1: dad was always the territorial authority to figure in the house.

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Speaker 1: So we've lived in several other homes, but this house,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a better namehood. He was a cat driver,

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Speaker 1: But my mother was in the kitchen and she was

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Speaker 1: Our house never was dirty. It was always clean. So

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Speaker 1: We hadn't been gone maybe maybe two minutes, and then

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Speaker 1: we heard this loud noise. It's now like a car

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Speaker 1: on the floor everywhere. So my my two older brothers,

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Speaker 1: You know, there were a few years older than me,

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Speaker 1: so there's no way they could have moved any of

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Speaker 1: my god, yeah, poor Wold. I hope you all apologize

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Speaker 1: had suppressed all these years, because yeah, because my father,

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Speaker 1: because when we left that house, our experiences subsided. However,

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Speaker 1: on the other hand, I continue to have these additional

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Speaker 1: good point, because when my grandmother passed away, that's when

429
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: I started to like experience things, and I think that's

430
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: when my spiritual out to like really grew. And I

431
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: showed the story on the podcast before, but I remember

432
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: when when I used to live with my grandmother, our

433
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: rooms used to be next to each other, and my

434
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 1: grandma used to always wake up, like around four something

435
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: the morning, and she'll be sweeping the hallways. So fast

436
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: forward when she passed away and I moved into my

437
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: first apartment in New York, every night four or forty four,

438
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: I would wake up and I would hear somebody sweeping

439
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: in my hallway. And I used to bet like low

440
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: key freaked out. And then after a while, because I

441
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: mean just being the press, because I never experienced losing

442
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: somebody before and then just not getting no sleep, I

443
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: used to be like, girl, like what's up? Like what

444
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: do you wanna talk about? Because I'm like, it's just

445
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: it's no way that I'm hearing that same exact sound right,

446
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, And I used to be so afraid

447
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: to share, like even like I had I had so

448
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: many encounters with certain things or even like I remember

449
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: one time I was living in my last apartment and

450
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: I was getting in the bed and it literally literally

451
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: felt like somebody got in the bed with me and

452
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: hold me. And I was like, nope, I said, I

453
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: don't know who you are. I'm like, if it's you, Nanna,

454
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: I said, I miss you, I said, but we don't

455
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, And I never felt like like somebody

456
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: was trying to attack me or anything, but I just

457
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: and I just go to sleep. But it felt like

458
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: somebody was trying to hold me. And I was like,

459
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, no, no, we don't do that.

460
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: But you even made a good point when you was like,

461
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: you know, people go through the houses, like people be like, oh,

462
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: the house needs to settle in, or it's just like

463
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: what does the house need to settle in for? Like, yeah,

464
00:25:55,080 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: you know that they were so um dismissive. They were

465
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: so dismissive of the reason. Why is I call them

466
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: if they always want to rule a Granted, I do

467
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: have to use what I considered logical reasoning or logical

468
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: skepticism when I do my investigations, because it very well

469
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: could be those other contributings, you know, issues. But when

470
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: you've got things flying off of a wall and in

471
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: a in a manner to where gravity is not a factor,

472
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: you cannot explain it through scientific explanation, then it's like, Okay,

473
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: come on, y'all. You know obviously, and you and I

474
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: always used as an example, there's so many different amphibians

475
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: and animals and creatures and things that we have yet

476
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: to discover in this world that exists, that we acknowledge exists.

477
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: There's spiders I never even seen. There's there's fish I've

478
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: never seen before, but I've heard you know that that

479
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: are There's so many different creatures. So why would we

480
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: limit our minds to and restrict the idea of the

481
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: other things being a possibility just because it makes us

482
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: feel comfortable about the logic of it. I because it

483
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: don't make sense. It's it doesn't. And then everybody tries

484
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: to apply their sense, their sense of sense of understanding

485
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: to the situation, and it's like, Okay, this is what

486
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: happened the other wind blew and this bell off the wall.

487
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: But come on, now, explain how your sibling is sitting

488
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: in the middle of the floor while we're eating and

489
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: he gets lifted in the air and thrown across the

490
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: room in the middle of the floor, in the middle

491
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: of the afternoon. Can science please explain that to me? Right?

492
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: Did your mom ever apologize to y'all? You know, she

493
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: she did, and it was it wasn't even a situation

494
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: to where she needed to because she knew what was

495
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: going on. And she did talk to my father there

496
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: on self occasion. She tried to get through to him,

497
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: and you know, but she was so limited with her

498
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: approach because my dad was so he was so stern

499
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: and it was his word and nothing. So the day

500
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: that my mom couldn't deal with anymore, I think her

501
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: apology came when she took us out of there real quick,

502
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: and I mean and that and and that was after

503
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: my baby sister was born, and it was just getting

504
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: so much more worse. And you know, my sister, Missy

505
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: was going to school and she had scratches on her

506
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: and then it was starting to get reported and you know,

507
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: people are thinking that we're getting abused, and it was

508
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: just it was just becoming to the point where it's

509
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: like my mama couldn't do it no more. Regardless of

510
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: how my dad felt. She was like, I'm not gonna

511
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: keep putting these kids through this. This this this traumatic experience.

512
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: So she had to take over. And that was I

513
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: had never really seen my mom drive. She was always

514
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: in the passenger side, you know, she was she was

515
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, she was the miss of White. You know,

516
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: that's where my mom was. He didn't have to drive.

517
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: My dad drove everywhere, you know, so sad her drive

518
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: and Sarah take control. We knew something was weird. It

519
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: was like Mom was driving, right, this is different. So

520
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: that's when we went to her sister's house and we

521
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: stayed there until we found another house. But I think

522
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: that was her apology. You know, I'm sorry, kids, let's

523
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: go right this this this is it. I'm not I'm

524
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: not gonna keep putting you guys through this, right. It

525
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: was so such a humbling thing for her, and even

526
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: he left. You know, we spoke about it a teeny

527
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: tiny bit when we lived with my aunt, but other

528
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: than that, when we moved back in, my mom and

529
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: dad got back together. We didn't talk about it. M M.

530
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: He did not talk about it. Do you feel like

531
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: your dad didn't want to show emotion because he was

532
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: so strong willed that he didn't want to be He

533
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: didn't want it to be confused as a weakness. Yes,

534
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: very cool, very prideful. You're exactly correct. That would be

535
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: a sign of weak this in his eyes. My dad

536
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: was a military man, so he had that military mindset.

537
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: He had that, you know, and he was the only child,

538
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: wanted a big family. His father was very stern. It was.

539
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: He was a manly man, souse. He wouldn't stay. You know.

540
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: I believe if my mother hadn't never made that that move,

541
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: my father will continue to let us go through that,

542
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: he would have stayed because it was it was it

543
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: was a position of his his integrity and his pride

544
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: getting sliced, and he didn't want that. He didn't want

545
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: to look like a week like you said, like a

546
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: man who was too weak to face it, So he

547
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: would have stuck around. Yeah, that's a lot, man. I

548
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: would have got out there so quick. I would have

549
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: heard the growler, the monsters in the wall out of

550
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: you know, me and my sister, my sister who was

551
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: a year younger than me. We were laying in bed

552
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: one day and we always held each other. I would

553
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: always hold her. I was so maternal and I would

554
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: always heard hold her close to me. So one day

555
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: when we were hearing the loud browling together and it

556
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: was getting so loud, it was starting to sound like

557
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: it was getting closer to us and was coming. It

558
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: was emanating from the closet. We go in there and

559
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: tell my dad girl with this man said he just

560
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: came home, because we can always tell when he'd been

561
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: out damn land, and he'd go to the woodlands. They

562
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: don't have the woodlands here anymore in Kentas City, but

563
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: he would go to the woodlands and if he had

564
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: a bad night, he'd be drinking, so we already knew.

565
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: So he'd be in the room and be just lurring is,

566
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: you know. And we go in in there, rushing there

567
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: and told my mom and dad there's a monster in

568
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: the cause and my Dad's like kill it. Me rose

569
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: over cloth back to sleep, So me and my sister

570
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: hold each other. We couldn't sleep in there, man, That

571
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: was a no. No. We couldn't sleep in there unless

572
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: they gave us. He okay, So we had to coddle

573
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: each other back bedroom and lay there and and just

574
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: suffered together. And you know, the the only good thing

575
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: about having gone through that I wasn't alone. I'm not

576
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: not to say that was the best thing, but at

577
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 1: least I had my siblings and I wasn't just an

578
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: only child having to go through that like you see

579
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: in the movies, this the one child and the experiences

580
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: or as two children and one being taunted more than

581
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: the other. And I had all my siblings and we

582
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: all experienced something from living in the house. Did you

583
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: have to Did you forgive your dad for everything that

584
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: y'all been through? He doesn't. I did. I did forgive him.

585
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: And it was about two years before he passed away.

586
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: He was laying there, and you know, my dad was

587
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: kind of bed ridden. He had he was incontinent, he

588
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: had to be fed and all that stuff, but he

589
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: could still speak and he was still, you know, competive.

590
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: So I just looked him in the eyes one day

591
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: because I was just thinking about everything we went through,

592
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: and I said, Daddy, I forgive you. He said for

593
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: what I said, for everything, for everything He wanted details.

594
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't giving him details because he was gonna be like,

595
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: it didn't happen, y'all are making it up. I didn't

596
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: want to go into that that that pitful of discussion

597
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: from him. I just said, I forgive you for everything

598
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: that we went through and that we experienced. He didn't

599
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: know what I was talking about, but I knew right M.

600
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: So when did you realize you wanted to make a

601
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: career out of this? You know? Um, it actually didn't

602
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: start off as a career. It started off as me

603
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: wanting to find out the truth, and that was mine.

604
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: I needed to know the truth of why I had

605
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: these abilities and if it emanated from us living in

606
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: that house, which I believe after my research that's probably why.

607
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: Because I had my head injury and it changed my

608
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: my my optics and my visual or visual consciousness on

609
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: how I'm able to see things. So I started out

610
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: as it just us to getting our past and our truth,

611
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: and then other people in the neighborhood because I started

612
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: knocking on doors and I started interviewing people, asking them,

613
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, you remember this house and telling me with

614
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: God experiencing anything, And people started telling me they were

615
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: experiencing stuff and I was like, well, you know, I

616
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: would love to find out if what you went through

617
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: is what we went through, you know. And then I

618
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: started building that um that that relationship with all the neighbors,

619
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: and then it started turning into an investigative thing for me.

620
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: So then people were reaching out to me and they

621
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: were like, oh, you know, are you so on. So

622
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: my my, my neighbor who lives my girlfriend, who lives

623
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: in this to that block that you used to live in,

624
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: she told me the story, and I want you to

625
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: come check out my house, I said. And it was

626
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: interesting because it was coming from black people and people

627
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: were tapping into it. So I started doing I didn't

628
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 1: have no equipment. The only the only piece of equipment

629
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: I had is myself. So I had to go out

630
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: and buy stuff like I saw on the investigative shows.

631
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, I'm gonna to uh I am a freader.

632
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm need uh visual equipment. I said, I'm gonna need

633
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: some stuff. So then I had to train myself on

634
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: how to use this equipment. And then I started going

635
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: in people's houses and investigated what they were experiencing. So

636
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: once it got so big to the point where so

637
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: many people were finding out what I was doing and

638
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: made its way around. Word of mouth got around so

639
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: quick so where people were reaching out to me and

640
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: they were like I heard about you, And I said, okay, yeah,

641
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: can I pay you to come investigate my house? And

642
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: I was like me, might find me. But I'm not

643
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: charging people for this. You know. I never charged one

644
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: person to do an investigation. People have tried to pay me, Well,

645
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: you don't charge for your services. I don't. I don't

646
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: charge for the investigation. The thing that I feel pays

647
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: me with my investigative research is what I find, what

648
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm able to document, you know, whatever, to collect on video,

649
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: because I can utilize that in my own investigative research

650
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: and profrile and that will pay me. That will put

651
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: yourself off. So I never charged anybody to find out

652
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: the truth. I was so interested in investigating. I didn't

653
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: think that it was something that I wanted to be

654
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: compensated for it. It was. It was compensating for me

655
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: knowing that I was the only person going through it

656
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: or my family and similar families like us. So that

657
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: was my profit, you know. But I know niggas was

658
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: like yo, and they heard one sound they started calling

659
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: a number. Oh my god. You know, it's so funny

660
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: because I have to weed out a lot of things

661
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: and a lot of a lot of people who are

662
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: just you know, for I consider myself an attractive woman.

663
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: So when people started finding out about who was behind

664
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: you know, the space behind it, I got so many

665
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: phone calls, and some people will just be like, oh, well,

666
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: I heard something in my bathroom. Can you come investigating? No,

667
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: it's not half works. I have to Yeah, I look

668
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: like these other people we see on TV. She given

669
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: Instagram datty. I saw her. I was like, damn, this hurt. Yeah,

670
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: and you know what, that kind of worked in my

671
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: favorite and hand me because people are like, there ain't

672
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 1: no way you're doing all this. You're not YouTube cute

673
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: and you're young and you're black, and there oh way

674
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: that you're the face behind these investigations. Yes I am, Yes,

675
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: I am. I am the face. I don't look like

676
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: what I've been through, but not at all the spaces

677
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: y'all can't see that scar on her forehead. Yeah, I

678
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: tried to get I tried to get certainty to cover

679
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: it up because it was more defined and it was

680
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: more raised on the front. But it's still it's still there,

681
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: it's still visible, and I'm honestly, I'm like, it's okay,

682
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: it's it's a scar of my truth and I'm not

683
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: going to completely get rid of it. I did get

684
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: I did re stitch it, but the stitches are still,

685
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, still visible. So I was like, it is

686
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: what it is, it is here, it's here. Um. But

687
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: I started, I started really taking my research seriously when

688
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: so many people were interviewing me and doing podcast interviews

689
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: and I had to explain the story. And then more

690
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: people started coming out, more black people started coming out,

691
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: and they were so I had a girl come to

692
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: me and I met up with her. I did an

693
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: investigation in her house and she just bawled and she

694
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: just started crying. She was like, I didn't know if

695
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: I would ever find anybody like you, that looked like me,

696
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: that will understand what I've been through and wouldn't judge me.

697
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: And once I started getting responses like that, I knew

698
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't turn back. I had to keep going. I

699
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: had to keep keep being that face of of this

700
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: of this investigative field. I had to continue because I

701
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: knew that there were people depending on me to tell

702
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: their stories and to also bring them out of those

703
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: comfort zones to talk about what they were experiencing and

704
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: not have such a taboo mindset on it. So it

705
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: was it was challenging at first when I started getting

706
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: more of a buzz and a lot of people were

707
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: coming out coming to me, and I got a lot

708
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: of ridicule. I got a lot of judgment. I got

709
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people that were, you know, just oh

710
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: my god, you're weird, and you know, you're stranger. I

711
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: ain't into that voodoo stuff or you to witchcraft, none

712
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: of that. I'm not. I'm not into any of that. Now.

713
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: Have I studied it to understand absolutely, because I gotta

714
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: know when I'm facing in order to understand how to

715
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: investigate it. But I didn't said witchcraft, I don't know

716
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: how to do voodoo. I'm not, you know, I'm none

717
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: of that. And I'm non denominational when it comes to religion,

718
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: because just just so many different versions of truth from

719
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: every religion. So I tried not to associate myself with

720
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 1: a specific religion placement because what I went through tells

721
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: a different story from what this religion is portraying as

722
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: their version of truth. So I I tend to separate

723
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: myself from that. So when I do my investigations now,

724
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: instead of saying goes or entities, I say energies because

725
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: it takes away the whole identify her. Because you say

726
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: goes or you say spirits, you're connecting it to a

727
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: specific religious denomination. So I take that out. So you

728
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: can't say, Okay, well she said Goes, so she's you know,

729
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: a Christian, or she's you know, you know, Presbyterian, or

730
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: I just take it all out. I take all the questions.

731
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: I'm honey, energies. That's what these are, energy forms. I'm

732
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: investigating energy forms. So that way, it's just it's just

733
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: it's just a different kind of raw and introduction. But

734
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: y'all couldn't turn back. And then when Pitch Weekly picked

735
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: me up, and then the Kansas City start picked me up.

736
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: Kansas City, there's a news station here, Kansas City, case

737
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: TV five News picked me up. And then I started

738
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: getting so many phone calls from people out of state,

739
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, how are these people finding me?

740
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: Because like, what you need? What's what's going on exactly exactly? Now?

741
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: I did have I'm a claim adjuster by day, so

742
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: I would go out into the field and um assess

743
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: damages on people's homes. And that required me to travel

744
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: in different locations. So if I have to go to

745
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: a certain destination destination for work purposes, and you had

746
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: a property that you wanted me to investigate, um, because

747
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: of some type of paranormal disturbance or energy disturbance. If

748
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: you're in that proximity, then I'll go out there right

749
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: Not to just go out there and do an investigation

750
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: unless there's you know, I have it like that. I

751
00:41:55,160 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: couldn't fly over the place. Hey, what tells costs money.

752
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: I'm not going to New York and I live in

753
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: Kansas City and so but if I was in the area,

754
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: I would do an investigation. But I was always on

755
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: the road with my job, so I was everywhere Tennessee, Texas, Florida,

756
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: your Pennsylvania. I was all over place. So if there

757
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: was somebody that was experiencing something, then if I'm in

758
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: that vicinity, I'll actually do a full investigation. Um. We

759
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: were talking a little bit earlier about people which just

760
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: hit me up, bogus lee having these bogus encounters because

761
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: they want some company. So I have to do what

762
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: it's called a preliminary investigation. I have to have something documented,

763
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: some type of audio or video um documentation sent to

764
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: me so I could validate what your experience. And I

765
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: won't just go out there because you said you heard

766
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: in no ways in your bedroom. I've got to have something.

767
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: Because there was so many bogus um submissions and request

768
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: for investigations, I had to filter through that stuff. I'm like,

769
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going here. Oh no, no, no, I'm definitely

770
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: not going on here. And I look, yeah, they all

771
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: they tried. Girl, they tried, and you know, even women too,

772
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: just you know, I mean some some women to now. Yeah,

773
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: and I've had some strange ones, like a lady just

774
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: hit me up not too long ago and she's like, uh,

775
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: there's some woods behind me, but I'm pretty sure that

776
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: there's something back there, and UM, I want you to

777
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: come out and investigate it. I said, well, ma'am, I

778
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: would love to. And I'm sure you know, if you're

779
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: saying you're experiencing something, I definitely want to see where

780
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: you're experiencing. Can you get something on camera for me?

781
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: She said, that's what you're supposed to do. No, that's

782
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do, so I can continue to rest.

783
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: And I specifically let people know this when you reach

784
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: out to me. I've got to have something to go off. Club.

785
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: Unless there's multiple people in the same area reporting the

786
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: same thing, then I'll come out there. Like I have

787
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: an investigation of doing Austin, Texas, and there's a whole

788
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: block of people that live in the same street that

789
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: are experiencing something. No one has sent me in the

790
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: actual footage except the photo which it does appear that

791
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: there's some apparitions in their home, um, some energy in

792
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: their home. So but everybody on the block is experiencing

793
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 1: something in an energy disruption. So I said, I will

794
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: take and I will take that on blindly because of

795
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: how many people in the same neighborhood are reporting experiences.

796
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: But I have to have something to go off, you know,

797
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 1: I have to. I have to have something to weed

798
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: out the craziest. How often would you say, well, I

799
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: would say goes some spirits, But how often would you

800
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: say you would encounter these different energies in my own

801
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: personal life just in general, liked, do you ever encounter them?

802
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: Or you're like walking around and you just see something

803
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: like energies are active everywhere, all times of the day.

804
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's nighttime. People think they only

805
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: come out at night. They are active constantly. So I

806
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: have energies here in my home, you know, me and

807
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: my children. I explain the type of energies, and I

808
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: I rate these energies on a level of one to

809
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: four before being the most active, most manipulative, the ones

810
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: that can actually make physical contact with you, the more

811
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: aggressive ones, and then it kind of scales down from

812
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: there to one being like the Grandma goes, as I

813
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: call it, the one that doesn't do anything, that's just

814
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: at this present, doesn't move stuff around, but you know,

815
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: you might see the shadow of them periodically. So I

816
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: have ones and shoes in my house. But what I do,

817
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: when I do with the investigation, I'll feel the vibrations

818
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: of the energies that are there or see the energies

819
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: that are there, and then I'll let you know what

820
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: you're dealing with and then you can decide on you know,

821
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: one you're not crazy, especially if I evaluated and find

822
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: out that you've got something going on, but to to

823
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: decide if you want to stay They're not, you know,

824
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: because the energies are not going anywhere. They're not going

825
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: to just up and root and pack up their bags

826
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: and go to another house. Because you say, that's the

827
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: miss inception people have that think sage and it is

828
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: going to rid that area of them, and that's not true.

829
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: It will calm the energy of their existence. But they

830
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: were probably pre existing far before you came, and probably

831
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: even further before that house was even built there. So

832
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: I at least give people the comfort to know what

833
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: they're dealing with. Is it a four which is a

834
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: more active one, or is it you know, just a

835
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: grandma goes. You can decide. And as long as you

836
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: know that, you're not crazy, and that's the people want

837
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: to know. Okay, I'm not crazy, right, I know something's

838
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: going on in here, right, not crazy? You do have

839
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: something going on in your house, you know, and a

840
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: lot of people get relief from that. So are you

841
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: and your family, Oh, you're comfortable with living in the

842
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: house with energies or do you think everybody just have energies?

843
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: Every everybody has. Everybody has energies. Again, some are just

844
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: more active than others. And why that, why that is?

845
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm a parents psychologist, so I'm still compeling

846
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: research to find out the mechanics of these energy forms

847
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: in the disruptive behavior or the not insructive behavior, and

848
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: why there's so much more active in others, what makes them,

849
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: what makes them become so activated? You know what I mean? So,

850
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: but that's still and then what I may never know

851
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: that answer, you know, I may never know. Um. I'm

852
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: also um investigating the connections and the winks of the

853
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: energy forms that you experience in your everyday house and

854
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: other locations. And there's their their connections to like UFOs

855
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: and extraterrestrials, and and there's a lot of common connections

856
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: between the two and we're starting to find out that

857
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: they're almost synchronizing their existence in their form um. But

858
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: we're still because whenever I go out and do an investigation,

859
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: I use radiation detectors. That's one of my favorite pieces

860
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: of equipment. And when you're doing investigations, and in uh

861
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: UFOs and extra terrestrial US, they use radiation detectors to

862
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: detect the activity and the presence of these these energy

863
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: forms and these beings. So they're so similar in their

864
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: and their abilities to have these manipulative these manipulative encounters

865
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: with people. You know UFOs, they travel at a different

866
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: light speed and they travel in a different um and

867
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: a different radioactive type of wave to where it's it's

868
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: so much faster, Like they can go through walls, or

869
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: they can get into your mind, or they can teleport

870
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: you there. There's there's there's such a strong force. And

871
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: when you think about ghosts, you know they're able to

872
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: travel interdimensionally and they're able to travel through walls and

873
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: have this additional energetic ability to manipulate you manipulate your

874
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: dreams depending on how strong they are. There's so many

875
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: different common links that we were compiling documentation and information

876
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: on daily to see what else is going on. There

877
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: so much going on in this world. There's so much,

878
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: so much going on in this world. And being able

879
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: to actually openly have these discussions and bring so many

880
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: people in the black community together to talk about it

881
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: and to actually be comfortable talking about their experiences is

882
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: it's so refreshing. It's so refreshing because it's opening up

883
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 1: another um. It's an opening up another platform of of

884
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: I guess you could say social dynamic and a different

885
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: dynamic where we all can come together and talk about

886
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: it and not feel like that person we are person

887
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: is going through some emotional stuff for psychological concerns, we

888
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: can actually talk about it and not be a taboo discussion,

889
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 1: even even just outside of the African American community, because

890
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: there's other races that have their own mindset and believe

891
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 1: that certain things are not happening because how they've conditioned

892
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: their mind to believe, and it's a social condition, a

893
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 1: mental conditioning. So giving them the opportunity to see that there,

894
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: you know, there is other things going on that you know,

895
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: science can't always give an explanation for its deeper so

896
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: being able to spill over into that um and that

897
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: demographic as well and give some enlightenment on that the

898
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: things externally that's happening in our world. It's refreshing too

899
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 1: because I have a lot of people that that chime

900
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: in that that that I want to know more. I'm

901
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: on every Thursday evening, I'm on rodrig Marty's podcast is

902
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: a live live feed and we talk about He's UFO,

903
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: He's in ethology and then I'm in para Paranormal investigative

904
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: where UM para psychology. So we linked together and we

905
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: have these open discussions where people from all races come

906
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: and talk about their experiences, and I said, this is

907
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 1: so good to have because it's brand so many different

908
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: backgrounds together to black people, because he's black too, and

909
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: we are spearheading these these discussions, and it's it's great

910
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: because it's changing the tone of the presentation of the

911
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: black culture and how we are always in the background

912
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: of everything or left out at certain things, and we're

913
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 1: never you know, we're never casted or put in the foreground.

914
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Speaker 1: To have these discussions has always been our counterpart. This

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Speaker 1: concludes part one of this week's episode. Please stay tuned

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Speaker 1: for part two, dropping next Tuesday. Until next time, everyone Later,