WEBVTT - 92: STAR CATS TAKE NIGHT CALLYWOOD 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:04.040 Welcome to Night Call, a production of I Heart Radio. 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:13.200 It's four fourteen am in the heavy Side Layer and 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:35.600 you're listening tonight Call. Welcome back to Night Call, a 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:39.600 podcast for your strange days and lonely new decades. Today 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.760 we will be talking about, of course, star Wars and cats. 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.080 Um Emily just got back from Berlin and has a 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.279 hot report for us about the extremely night Collie Museum 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:55.560 of Things. But first, welcome back everybody. Hi, oh Hello, 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.040 I'm Molly Lambert of course, and with me as always 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:03.200 our Malayoda and Test Lynch. And today we are joined 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:09.720 by special guest Alex Pavidimus. Hello Alex, formerly on North 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:13.480 Mollywood with me. This is now a supergroup podcast. Kicking 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:17.120 it off right, there's a there's a multiverse of podcasts 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.800 and they all kind of intersect. This is CSN and 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:25.080 why special Crossover edition. Um. Alex is going to join 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.280 us really to talk about cats and Star Wars, two 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.959 things he has very strong feelings about. But first we're 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:33.240 gonna start off the year with a night email about 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:36.360 a spooky fridge. This night email comes to us from Meredith. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:40.280 Meredith writes, Hey, night Call, first time caller. I live 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.319 in New York City, and shortly after moving into my 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.920 apartment I realized there was weird writing on my fridge. 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.240 In the beginning, I thought it was a moving related 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.720 stress hallucination or something, but then I realized you can 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:51.720 only see it fully when the light is hitting the 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.760 steel fridge in the right way, so usually very early 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.360 in the morning. I've tried everything to get it off, 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:01.480 including having professional cleaners come, but nothing works. The writing 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.720 appears to be notes or poems in all caps. The 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:09.560 largest words are all alone my own existence written in 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.400 huge letters on the middle of the door. There are 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.480 a number of insults and what appears to be a 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.360 reminder that maintenance people came, and just an assortment of 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:21.040 words that have no real connection and something about sociology. 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.200 I don't know anything about the guy who lived in 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.640 the apartment before me. I do feel like the fridge 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.040 is kind of a sinister entity in my life, although 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:29.640 maybe I should be a friended like a ghost who 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:33.919 means well, thank you, Meredith. This is a real New 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.040 York I mean, like, obviously their apartments are everywhere. You 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.280 have to deal with appliances that have been owned by 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.320 many people in every city, But this feels like specifically, 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.920 like a real New Yorky type situation. I'm trying to 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.520 figure out how this could have happened. Do you think 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.880 that it was that there were like notes stuck to 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.560 the fridge for so long that there was photo damage, 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.720 or like a pen, you know, like a permanent marker 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.120 or something that like like it came through a post 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:02.960 it note? Or do you think this person wrote directly 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.440 on the fridge. I feel like somebody wrote directly on 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:09.960 the fridge. I feel like writing all alone my own existence, 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.400 um on your fridge is kind of like a weird 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:17.679 like shut in thing to do, and then the yeah, 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.400 and then the landlord like scrubbed it down, but you 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:24.160 you know, obviously couldn't completely break it down, so there's 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.720 sort of a ghost image. I mean that that that's 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:28.360 that part. I don't really it's hard for me to 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:32.000 imagine what these other things look like like are they 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.600 are they like done by finger like because I was 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.680 sort of imagining like when you write on um when 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.760 you're with your finger on a fog mirror and then 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:43.880 the fog clears and you can still see when people 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:48.600 do that in dust when they're like wash me right, yeah, um, 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.680 I don't know. To me, this sounds like they had 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:56.480 taped or otherwise placed notes on their fridge and that 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.800 they were all kind of overlapping, because they could have 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.480 had all alone my own existence could be like part 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.840 of a note, and then the maintenance person could have 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:05.720 been like a sticker in the words that aren't related 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.160 could just be like layers and layers of notes. I 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:12.400 think you're thinking about this like a sane person. Yeah, okay, 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.160 it's like I have to keep track of all alone 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.080 my existence, right, Yeah, this seems more like a like 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:22.240 a punk fridge situation. I have. I have a thought. 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.800 Uh okay, it's a steel fridge, like stainless, like a 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:30.840 stainless steel fridge, so I'm assuming it's like a smooth surface. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.440 It's not like the textured sort of plastic sort of 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:37.280 like a white fridge. I'm imagining somebody probably used their 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.080 fridge as a a wipe off board and they used um, 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:45.400 white chalkboard paint. You mean, no, with like white boff markers. Um. 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.040 This is You're gonna have to get back to us 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.040 on this, merete, because we're kind of piecing this together 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.360 from your description. But like you know that stuff if 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.800 you leave on a wipe off marker on a board 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:59.880 for long off, sometimes it doesn't even come off. Like 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:01.560 if you leave something on a wipe off board for 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.120 a year, sometimes it just doesn't come off anymore. That 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.360 is an interesting point that could be. It also could 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:11.000 be there people have this like chalkboard paint that I'm 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.160 wondering if they thought they could remove or you can do. Um, 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.800 they have sticky chalkboard paint that's almost like wallpaper, and 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.800 then if they were writing directly on it, it could 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.760 have etched itself into the fridge beneath, or it just 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:28.880 could be haunted by ghosts. Um. I feel like I'm 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.360 willing to explore some rational options before we go for ghosts. 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:34.839 But I do think it's like, you know, it's like 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.400 all these things you talk about where it doesn't need 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.160 to be a ghost to feel like a presence, a 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:45.480 dark presence. It's very like Russian doll. Yeah. Also yeah, yeah, 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.560 I guess you don't have to think about that as 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.320 much here at the like eight million people that lived 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.080 in an apartment before you. Yeah, I don't know, like 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.920 people don't think about fridges enough, Like I think people 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.599 think a lot about beds and hotels obviously, and the 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:04.440 sheets on hotels, but fridges and apartments. But like a 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.960 fridge holds a lot of psychic energy. I feel like, 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.080 well the idea also that she can only see it 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.040 when it's like hit it, the light hits it in 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.359 a certain way. I do think maybe you're right that 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.000 it's like because sometimes you're like a white whiteboard pain 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.520 if you like to leave it on too long leaves, 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.920 that weird snail trail. But just to know that at 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.720 some point in your space, somebody was compelled to write 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.560 all alone my existence while they were in your nice kitchen. 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.000 I mean, it doesn't like you know your kitchen that 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.920 you have tried to make the best stuff. Um like 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.920 somebody has had wild and desperate thoughts in there. That's 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:40.599 a little bit unsettling. What do you listeners think that 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.680 the spooky fridge have or should do about the spooky fridge? Move? 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.520 They have to move or get a new fridge. And 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:51.599 that's too now, that's to move, burn it down. You 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.560 can't get a fridge out, everybody. You can't get a fridge. 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.000 You see a lot of fridges on the street, though, yes, 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.880 do you? Yeah, there's one on my street right now 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:02.960 it's not mine. They also used to be like, don't 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.119 play in the abandoned fridges was a big thing. Wait 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:09.760 what what that was the thing? Alex means what I'm 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.320 talking about. Maybe it's more a California thing. Don't play 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.720 an abandoned, play in the abandoned anywhere. Stuck in a fridge, yeah, 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.400 you'll shut yourself in. There's all horror stories about like 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.600 that's they have those magnets. I think they make them 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.560 now so they can't do that, so they don't shut 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.800 from the inside. You can get out of them. They 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.520 are haunted though they're like that they leave, they're on 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.480 the front lawn kind of just being haunted a lot 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.840 like toilets. I think they have something in them like 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.080 air conditioners do. Also, so when you see them on 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.600 the street, they've all all died by violence, Like they're 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.000 all busted open because someone's trying to get the valuable, 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.240 Like there's a piece of gold or free on something 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:47.640 in there that freon hoarders and can you go around 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:53.280 collecting free on for coins. It's the combustible converter, catalytic converter, 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.880 or whatever it's called. You guys are really like changing 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.520 my perception of refrigerators in a terrible way. I'm like, 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.000 you can get trapped in a refrigera like children playing 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:05.920 in refrigerators. I had no idea, Meredith, Meredith, please send 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.440 us a picture of this if you can. I really 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.680 want to like I want now, I'm I want to 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:12.760 know if I'm right about the wipe off board thing. 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.440 So please get back to part is the insults. Sorry, 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.600 I keep I won't let it go. I just keep 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:21.480 circling back to the bad vibe party house. That sounds 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.760 like a bad vibe party house to me. Maybe it's 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:28.360 a bad party house, or or what if they what 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.080 if she looks up the person who lived there before 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:36.520 and it's her. Oh, I just watched Black Swans. I 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.280 watched that on the plane that I passed out on, 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.560 So that explains everything. Yeah, get back to this, Meredith. 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.920 And if you have a night call for us. We 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.760 love getting your night calls in whatever format you prefer. 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.400 Call us or text us at two four oh four 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.520 six night or email us at night call podcast at 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.280 gmail dot com and we'll be back in a moment 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:59.640 with some tales from the Dark Knights of Berlin. Right 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:19.320 after this had welcome back, to night call. Emily, you 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.680 just got back from a trip to Berlin where you 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.480 went to one of the most night call places imaginable, 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.720 the Museum of Things. Well, I feel like Berlin in 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:29.840 general is like one of the most night call places 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:31.959 right now, like in a very literal sense, and that 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.520 it's like mostly night like all the time. The sun 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.360 came up at like eight or thirty in the morning 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.680 and went down and it was totally dark by four 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.040 every day, so it was a lot of night like. 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:46.800 We could do what we could do an intro and 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:52.280 it could be like it's five thirty pm. It was 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.400 the first time I've ever been there in winter actually too, 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.400 so it was a very different experience. But I did 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.960 go to the Museum of Things, which I now kind 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.480 of put in this canon of museums that I don't know. 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:09.160 I love a good, small, very unique museum, like the 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.160 Museum of Jurassic Technology is kind of, I think, like 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.880 a pinnacle of that kind of a museum where you 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.199 have to kind of figure out what the spaces as 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:21.880 you're navigating it, like somebody has curated this stuff and 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.960 it makes sense, but you're not going to get it 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:26.520 at first, And the only way to do it is 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:30.000 to kind of like actually move through and figure it out. Um. 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:35.240 It's fun. It's like a mystery dinner or something. Um, 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.360 what are the things in the Museum of Things? So 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.880 the Museum of Things is an archive. It's it's it's 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:44.839 the archive of the Deutsche RK. Boon's I'm gonna use 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.760 my terrible. I don't know a lick of German. It's amazing, 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:51.160 I like I I it's one of it's. Any time 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.520 I go to like France or Japan, I kind of 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:55.880 exhausted because I'm trying to figure out how to speak 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.439 there and I don't know any German at all, so 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.200 I can lay back and let other people do it 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.000 for me. So I don't know any But it's the 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:07.040 it was this um kind of government uh, I don't know, initiative. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.559 It predated um about how school and it was just 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:15.960 this like initiative to create a specifically German idea of 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:20.040 like design and like what manufactured like consumer goods should 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.640 look like and and graphic design and advertising and stuff 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.240 like that because they wanted to be competitive with the 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.960 other um kind of first of all countries, I guess. Um. 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.000 And it's so it's an archive. It's like it's kind 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.679 of through that lens. But the stuff there is not 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.840 all stuff that was created by the work bone and 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.559 the people who were designers for it. UM. It's kind 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.240 of just like cabinet after cabinet that basically as you 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.800 move through it goes through time, just kind of showing 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:53.400 you what everyday objects if you lived in Germany and 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.960 both East and West Germany, UH looked like as you 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.199 went through time, are you going backwards in time? Or 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:05.080 because it started in um I think nineteen o seven, Yeah, 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.400 nineteen o seven, I think, or nineteen o nine, UM, 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.120 so it starts about there and gives a lot of 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.839 examples of like the kind of objects and consumer goods 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.560 that they thought were trash and we're very vocally UM 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:20.640 critical of. And it's just like it's like a spoon 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:24.640 or like a picture frame that then like somebody at 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:28.480 the like set aside and it's like bad, this is 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:32.880 a picture frame, UM. And then I mean so and 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.199 then they have a lot of stuff that was like 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.359 so one of the things that's like the very signature 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.280 UM look that came out of this organization with sort 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:46.000 of those the very UM abstract sprayed on designs or 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:49.600 like they look very Eastern block that kind of the 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.600 plates with the yeah, yeah yeah. If you're a subscribed 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:54.559 to our newsletter, you can see some pictures from there. 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:56.760 Also you can just like google the plates with the 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:01.400 ants where the geometric pattern. Yeah, they looked like yeah, 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.000 I mean kind of like Germany meets like New York 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:08.840 loft of the primary color kind of rectangles. It's that 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.560 super kind of like Soviet look of just and it's 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:13.679 like non. The idea is that like you don't want 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.600 anything figural in it. You're like kind of just you're 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.840 trying to do something decorative without being decorative boring. I 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.640 mean a lot of it is quite pretty. I think 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:25.280 like a lot of it looks, but how much of 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.200 the kits did you like where you like, Oh, I 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.040 like the bad stuff. I mean I like the bad 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:30.600 stuff too, But then it gets really I mean it's 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:34.880 it's the old bad stuff is funny because you're just like, oh, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:39.240 like they abhorred this chintzy like figure of the Virgin 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.600 Mary or whatever, like stuff like like a lot of 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:45.680 religious objects are in the bad section. But then um, 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:47.880 as it goes forward and you get closer to the 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.920 present day and you're like looking at like iPod nanos 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.000 and what were some of the other things, just like 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.599 like dumb toys for kids, like you know that was 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:01.240 kind of like cardboard with the plastic on top, like 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.600 that kind of design of packaging, um that sort of 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.560 glued on like all these you know a lot of 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:10.199 it from like the eighties nineties and oh's You're just like, man, 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.880 we like make so much crap, like and it's interesting 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.400 to see it. Like a museum is good for that, 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:20.160 Like you can really contextualize like something that you don't 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.720 think about in the every day when it's in behind 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.040 a cabinet and with a placard over it and you're 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:29.000 looking at a iPod nano from two thousand five or whatever, 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:33.680 You're like, uh, it's like the museum. And um, do 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.760 you ever see the really bad time Machine movie from 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.920 like two thousand two or something Guy Pierce one? Yeah, 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:46.320 un original like a billion love. Um I saw I 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:50.960 saw that. I just remember that. Samantha iconic Irish pop 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.800 star Samantha Mumbo isn't um the time Machine the End 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.040 Orlando Jones, but Orlando Jones and it is um He's 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:02.560 like the holographic. UM. I guess like docent at the 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.600 museum of like a history museum there and they just 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:09.400 have like stuff from today, and it's sort of like, oh, 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:13.120 why is this where the time machine is? UM, I 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.200 can't remember it would make sense, was it or does 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.360 he build it at home as in the original? No, 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.480 I think he goes to the future and the museum 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:22.680 is there in the future and everybody has died, but 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.760 the museum is still there anyway. But like, I don't know, 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.160 I like that kind of like I like it's it's 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.160 it's a it's a really interesting place to think about. 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.160 I have two questions. One of them is that you 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.080 shared a picture that's in our newsletter of you knew 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.720 I was gonna as this. There's a t set, a 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:46.640 white porcelain looking t set with very realistic ants painted 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.360 onto it that I that gave me a nightmare. It's 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:53.120 a horrible nightmare. No, I mean, it didn't give me 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:57.040 a nightmare, but it made me supremely uncomfortable, and I 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:58.680 knew I had to share it with you as soon 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:02.640 as when is that from? UM? That was that seems 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:06.160 I think that was like in the fifties or sixties 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.440 and that was good. I think it was bad. I 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:14.160 think it wasn't it was good. It's good chaotic for UM. 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.520 And then the other thing there was a there was 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:20.280 a laptop with like a cutout picture of a boy. 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.160 What was going on there that all the electronics they 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.760 had these little like pictures that seemed to be cut 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.400 out of magazines at the time, like children's magazines at 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.040 the time of like kids doing cartwheels and stuff on them. 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.720 It was so weird. It was like very weird laptop 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.440 arranged with a little cut out boy, but it really 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.520 kind of crudely cut out, so he was just kind 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:45.520 of like that was purely that was purely an act 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.120 of like expression on the part of whoever put that together. 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:52.760 I just municipal art trying to make it slightly. It 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.280 seemed so wrong for a museum, which made it seem 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.960 so right for this musing UM. But I highly erect 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.600 amend the museum. If you ever find yourself in Berlin, 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:05.800 it's um. It's you know, it's it's an hour or 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:09.960 two uh and and super interesting. You learn a lot 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:15.120 and you think a lot about trash and pre trash. UM. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.119 I just went to the Librea Tar Pits for the 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:21.479 first time in a while because they're threatening to redevelop it, 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:25.160 which they should not do. Part of the remodel. It's 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.080 part of the never ending fiasco that is the Miracle 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:33.280 Mile overhaul. Uh. They're building a death Star Hollywood museum, 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.400 which we'll talk more about death Stars shortly. Well, there's 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.879 also the Lucas that's the death Star. It's literally in 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:43.359 the shape of a death star. It's very bad. But 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.640 the Libreria Tar Pits is like a seventies, late seventies, 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:50.399 early eighties museum. It's super weird. I love it so much. 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:55.200 Um there are no dinosaurs. It is only giant sloths, 0:17:55.400 --> 0:18:01.520 giant bear type things, California native sper fauna. I was 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.680 so disappointed when I first went to the Libria tar Pets. 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.800 Now it's fine, But when I was a kid, I 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.760 came out here and my parents were like taking you 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:10.960 to the tar pits and I was like, what is 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.120 that and they were like, it's you know, there used 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.919 to be like tar underground and they were all of 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.359 these animals in the tar and I was like, great, 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.960 like a zoo, but they're like tar and they're like, no, 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:29.000 there's sculptures of animals in tar and they're just like, 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.879 this is scary. It's so scary. I'm not sure how 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:36.240 to interact and elephant. Yeah, especially when you're a kid 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.159 and you're like, oh, that kid is watching one of 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:42.960 its parents die forever. It's like it's the scene from 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:48.399 Never Ending Story. An impact that certainly does. Certainly the 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.320 Great Museum, and it's just like a little weird loop. 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:54.160 It's got a great gift shop also, and a weird 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.840 hill you can roll down that kids love to do. 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:01.879 I've never I've never been to the museum. There's the 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:04.719 part where they explain why it exists, and that's just 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:07.280 as weird as anything, where they're just like, somebody owned 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:09.720 this big plot of land with a huge, bubbling tar 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.080 pit in it, and it's like developed many times, like 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.360 it belongs to a lot of different people, but they 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.840 all are like, this is the historical feature. We must 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.200 leave it intact. Didn't you say at some point, Molly, 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.000 that there were tar pits under the Beverly Center or 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:28.879 did I make that up? There's a center and stuff 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.479 underneath the whole the whole city. They were finding. They 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:33.840 found some mammoths when they were doing the subway. Recently 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:38.720 they found some more more mammoths. Makes you think about 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.080 what could happen to all of us. Yeah, there was 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:45.000 in the subject of things that are underground in Los Angeles, 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:47.720 when I was in college, there was once a um 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.320 hesitate to call it a bomb scare, but it was 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.920 this like we had to abandon the campus for afternoon 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:59.879 because they found like old World War two nuclear like 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:01.880 or not new. They just like bombs. They I think 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:03.359 they were worried that they were a new glare, but 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:05.560 they were just like by accident. They were just like 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:09.360 that because they were doing construction work down where all 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.960 those condos and stuff are now and this l no, 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:17.719 this is at Loyola Mary And and yeah, somebody just 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:20.800 stashed those there. So you never know what you'll find 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.240 if you go digging in Los Angeles. Tess, what's the 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:27.080 weirdest museum you've ever been to? That's a good question. 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:29.280 I have a tendency to go to museums and then 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:31.960 just like erase the whole experience from my mind to 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.199 leave room for new museums. I did go to a 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:38.000 weird museum in It was a long long time ago. 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:40.960 I was visiting a friend in Munich and we went 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:43.919 to Austria and I tried to google it right before 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:46.320 I came here to do this podcast, because I was like, 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.159 what is it called? What is it called? And I 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:50.320 cannot find it for the life of me. I was 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.000 a kid and with her family, so I had no 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:54.560 and I'd never been to Germany, so I had no 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.760 idea where I was or what I was doing. But um, 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.679 it had like a lot of jars of oddities, preserved oddities. 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:04.080 And then I remember that I did go to the 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:06.920 Bunny Museum once, um, which I think we've talked about 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:10.760 on this podcast. Another hidden memory of museums. I don't 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:12.920 think I even know that you went to the Yeah, 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:19.399 this really like it's creepy, it's good, chaotic, good, had 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:23.479 it good. It's a woman's collection of a billion stuffed 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:27.320 animals and like bunny statues and things. If you would 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:31.600 like to really go down a hole on YELP, that's 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:38.600 a good I'm gonna I'm gonna say, Emily would love it. 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:43.000 They're they're conflicting reports of it's like by Santa Barbara right. No, 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:46.320 it moved. It was in Pasadena in her house and 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:49.000 then she moved it into a space. I heard Alex, 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.320 did you maybe go there recently? I have not actually 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.800 been there, but I've contemplated it because a delightful thing 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:56.480 for a small child. But then I've been like, is 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:59.240 this going to be delightful? I heard from yelp that 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:01.960 it's not to be done with a small children. Also, 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:06.400 I think she's grumpy. Well, she's like she's she's an 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:09.680 eccentric person. But it's like the perfect like woman from 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:14.399 a David Lynch movie, like showing you funny. She shows 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:16.919