1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network podcast, the number one show 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: for the invested sports fan. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: All Right, here we go, throwing show. 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 3: I'm saying it's a catch touch. We'll see most gamblers 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 3: when they go to gamble, they go to win. 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 4: God, that's incredible. 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 5: Big banks, small banks. 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 3: I like to make money. 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 4: All right, this is the ultimate kaba and we are underway. 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the NFL Week eleven Fantasy 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: Flex on the Action Network podcast. I'm Matthew Friedman, the 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: editor in chief of Fantasy Labs with me as Sean 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: Corner and Chris Raybonshawn is our director of predictive Analytics 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: and one of the top end season fantasy football rankers 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: for the past half decade. And Chris is a senior 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: editor and analystic the Action Network and a co host 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: of the Action Network show on Sirius XM Fantasy Radio. 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: And joining us is one of my dearest frenemies, Matt Kelly, 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: aka the Podfather aka Fantasy Mansion. He's the proprietor of 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: Player Profiler, the host of the row Underworld radio podcast, 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: one of the original Chris Godwin Truthers, and apparently a 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: longtime stalker of Osmakers D ms Matt Week ten? How 23 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: was it for you? 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 6: Oh? 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 4: Excellent, man, excellent, all the Christian Kirk, Christian Kirk dance party. 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: Baby. Who imagine having a guest who doesn't bring props 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: to the show? All right, Sean, Chris, how was week 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: ten for you? Guys? 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 5: Well? 30 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 7: I'll go first because I have Hooper on like all 31 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 7: my teams, so it's pretty devastating having him go down. 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 7: You know, gonna have to stream tight ends for the 33 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 7: time being, which sucks. And also one other thing I've 34 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 7: been sweating was my Chris Godwin hundred to one that 35 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 7: earlier in the season to lead the league. It was 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 7: looking pretty promising, but it looks like Michael Thomas is 37 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 7: running away with it now, so that tickets almost trash 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 7: at this point. But I still have Nick Chubb and 39 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 7: Jamis Winston a pretty good odds too. But I was 40 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 7: really hoping that Chris Godwin one hundred one bet would 41 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 7: would hit this year, but it's not looking good. 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 6: I wanted to know why the Action Network hasn't sent 43 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 6: me any props to use on the podcast. 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: I'm feeling kind of Joe. 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 6: Like I'm filling out, kind of Joe is like pod Father. 46 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 6: You don't you know start you don't slide in my 47 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 6: DMS like I feel left out. 48 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: Rayvaughon, I love you, buddy, I love I lispro Look 49 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 4: at this prop. This is a paper towel roll. 50 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 5: I love you right Vaughn, You're coming on the show 51 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 5: soon too. 52 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 8: I'll DM you all week, I. 53 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 3: Promise, Thank you. I feel better now. 54 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: All right, So for this episode, we're going to break 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: down the players at the top of our rankings available 56 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: by the way at actionnetwork dot com slash Fantasy. We 57 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 2: were discussing the guys who are high and low on. 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: We're speculating on some props, and at the end of 59 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: the show we're answering some Twitter fantasy questions, which I 60 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: know Podfather absolutely loves to do. 61 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: Oh those Twitter people, they're so smart and they're so again. 62 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 4: They they're so insightful. The questions they asked that they 63 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 4: really stimulate. 64 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, like should I start this guy or this guy instead. 65 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: Of yeah, stimulating of the intellect. Thank you Twitter. 66 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to uh, let's get to the rankings. Quarterbacks. 67 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: The guys at the top of our rankings, I'm pretty chocky, 68 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Matt Kelly. Is there 69 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: anyone that you would include in the top three other 70 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: than those guys? 71 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 4: What would Josh Allen? Can Josh Allen get there? It's 72 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 4: a pretty weak week, right, Why not Josh Allen? 73 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: Is this a Josh Allen week? I don't know, Sean, 74 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: do you have any thoughts on that? 75 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 5: Yeah? Against the Dolphins, it's tricky. 76 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 7: I mean, he bailed himself out last week with two 77 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 7: more rushing touchdowns at you know, he's he's the ultimate 78 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 7: high ceiling play this week. But if they get up 79 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 7: early on the Dolphins, I mean we could have a Floorgam. 80 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 7: He's my QB six. But so Matt's right this this 81 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 7: is a pretty weak week at QB. So, I mean, 82 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 7: I don't hate Josh Allen just yet. You have to 83 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 7: expect the wide range gout comes from the suit. 84 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: He has more upside than Drew Brees, though Drew Brees 85 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: looks at active. Oh going to Tampa oh wow? Right, 86 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: But when it's not a home game for Drew Brees, 87 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: the splits are damning and you gotta like the idea 88 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 4: that finally Josh Allen goes to a warm weather and 89 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 4: if you have Josh Allen with great conditions against one 90 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 4: of the worst secondaries in the league, and you have 91 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: John Brown on the outside, you could he could go 92 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 4: for two hundred and fifty yards three touchdowns through the 93 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 4: air at a rushing touchdown. He's at the top of 94 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 4: the Millie Maker. That's how it happens. It's Miami. It's 95 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 4: very easy to just close your eyes and imagine that 96 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: stat line from Josh Allen. 97 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I mean they're starting like three undrafted third 98 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: stringers as their cornerbacks. It's a pretty exploitable situation. 99 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 4: It's like who he was facing when he was at Wyoming, 100 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: right right, this is like a mountain wax secondary in Miami. 101 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: Let's go, Josh. 102 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not even like. 103 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: Josh Allen, but this is the week, right, come on, you're. 104 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: Relatively high on Josh Allen. Is there anyone else you 105 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: are relatively high on this week? 106 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 4: I think that Dak Prescott might be a trap. Dak 107 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: Prescott looks like a guy like, oh yeah, I gotta 108 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: play Dak Prescott this week. Love Dak Scott. I want 109 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 4: to play him in tournaments. But if you play Dak 110 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 4: Prescott in tournaments, you're necessarily also believing in Jeff Driscoll. 111 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 4: The Jeff Driscoll could make it a game, right. I 112 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 4: don't know if Dak Prescott is going to be forced 113 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 4: to throw enough to get there for GPPs, because when 114 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 4: you open up the slate, boom, it just jumps right 115 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 4: out at you. In tournaments, Oh all that we got 116 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 4: Prescott and we got a Marta Cooper, whoa, it feels 117 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 4: like a trap. 118 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: Chris, I believe you have Dak in the top three. 119 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: Can you make the pro Dak case? 120 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 6: Dak is just for me, like in every week heb 121 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 6: like top five QB at this point, not quite you 122 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 6: know there with a guy like Lamar or Patrick Mahomes. 123 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 6: But Dak has tended to put up numbers regardless of 124 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 6: the matchup. And they just have a lot of talent 125 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 6: there in Dallas. I mean, Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup, you know, 126 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 6: still got Zeke. They don't even have to throw to 127 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 6: him half the time because you know, Cooper and Gallup 128 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 6: is galla anting down the field. So Dak, like even 129 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 6: last week it didn't feel great having him. I think 130 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 6: it was like fifth or six against Minnesota, but you know, 131 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 6: kind of stuck with it. 132 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: And you know Lo and Behold, I. 133 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 6: Think that's just he's a guy that it's going to 134 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 6: be efficient if the volume's not there. And if the 135 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 6: volume's there, you can have one of those Green Bay 136 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 6: games where you might throw a couple of picks, but 137 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 6: he goes for like four or five hundred yards. 138 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: Who else are you relatively high on this week? 139 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 6: You know, we talked about traps and Drew Brees was 140 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 6: kind of a trap last week against the Falcons. But 141 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 6: I like Kyle Allen, like, you know, going back to 142 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 6: the well here. I think you see these defenses and 143 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 6: maybe they have one good game and you get scared away, 144 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 6: but you know, I would go right back to it 145 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 6: against the defense that's just been bottom five and everything. 146 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 6: And I think Jimmy Garoppolo too, you know, going against 147 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 6: the Cardinals. You put up big numbers last time, you know, 148 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 6: in the same spot, and we're starting to see that 149 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 6: they're not. It's kind of like Minnesota where everyone's like, oh, 150 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 6: they're only going to run and no, like if there 151 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 6: are certain situations where they'll throw. And now that we 152 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 6: have seen kind of upside from Jimmy, I believe it 153 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 6: was forty six pass attempts against the Seahawks. Granted the 154 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 6: game to go to overtime, but you know, I think 155 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 6: that makes me a lot more comfortable with kind of 156 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 6: kind of using him. 157 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: Of course, you know the health of his you know 158 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: all of his receivers. 159 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: Permitting Sean Kyle Allen make the case for him or 160 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: is there anyone else you want to talk about? 161 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 7: No, I think just you know, Rayvaughn piggybacking just proves 162 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 7: that he's a good play this week, especially on DK's 163 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 7: fifty three hundred. I consider him more of a high 164 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 7: floor play this week. He doesn't really give the rushing 165 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 7: upside to be QB one overall, but I have him 166 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 7: as a low en QB one this week. The Panthers 167 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 7: have the third highest team total, so they have the 168 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 7: same team total as the Chiefs and Saints, so I 169 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 7: think he's a good shot to throw from multiple touchdowns. 170 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 7: You know, we saw the Falcons defense come alive last week, 171 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 7: but they'll probably aggress a bit this weekend. You know 172 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 7: Kyle Allen, you know he has a ton of stacking partners. 173 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 7: I love Dj Moore and Samuel and Olsen are great 174 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 7: stacking partners along with McCaffrey, so he gives you a 175 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 7: lot of options at fifty three hundred this week to 176 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 7: spend up at other positions as well. 177 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 4: And the great thing with playing a quarterback that may 178 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 4: not be as talented as the other quarterbacks available on 179 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 4: the slate, look at the supporting cast. Dj Moore is 180 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 4: one of the best YAK wide receivers in the league. 181 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,679 Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey is obviously one of the best yack running 182 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 4: backs in the league. Is necessarily true, right, And Curtis 183 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 4: Samuel is one of the best field stretchers, so he 184 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,679 Speaker 4: doesn't have to do it on his own. He doesn't 185 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: have to thread the needle every time. He could just 186 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 4: dump it off to Christian McCaffrey and let him go. 187 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 4: He can just hit Dj Moore in a quick slant 188 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: and then boom, it goes for fifty yards in a 189 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: touchdown on a play to play basis. Those are the 190 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 4: mechanics behind that being such a strong play. What about 191 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 4: Jeff Driscoll though, because I said, hey, listen, I don't 192 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 4: think Jeff Driscoll has it in him to create a 193 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 4: shootout environment in Detroit, even though it's a home game 194 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 4: to get DAK Prescott to be over the top to 195 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 4: be the best quarterback this week. But he's so inexpensive, 196 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 4: and he's less expensive than Kyle Allen on DK is 197 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 4: only four point six k and he actually has rushing 198 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 4: up Did you know that Jeff Driscoll is faster than 199 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 4: Cam Newton. Jeff Driscoll runs a four five six. There 200 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 4: is real rushing upside with Jeff Driscoll. I kind of 201 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 4: like it because he also has a supporting cast like 202 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 4: Kyle Allen that can make plays on their own. You 203 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: can just throw it up to Kenny Gallada, you can 204 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: go get it. So there is if you, for example, right, 205 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: let's say you're let's say you're trying to play three 206 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: top running backs this week. Let's say you want to 207 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: play Zeke, you want to play McCaffrey, you want to 208 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 4: play Dalvin Cook. You have to pay down everywhere and 209 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 4: that includes potentially playing Driscoll. Or is that too fringy? 210 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: Now? Love Driscoll. He was one of the guys that 211 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: was popping in my mottol. 212 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 6: I was actually surprised, like I think we still have 213 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 6: Stafford as like a placeholder, but Driscoll is up to 214 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 6: like I think twelve or thirteen at quarterback in my 215 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 6: moudol No, granted it's a bad week, but for those 216 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 6: exact reasons you mentioned, man, I mean, you know, the 217 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 6: rushing outside that's only really need a little bit of 218 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 6: rushing upside. 219 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: You put decer receivers. Yeah, you can't make it's twenty nineteen. 220 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: You can complete six percent of your passes even if 221 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: you're a bad quarterback. 222 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: You know they're gonna have to score points. But Dallas 223 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: is gonna make them score. They're gonna have to switch 224 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 4: in the comeback mode. They're gonna be the hurry up 225 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: offense with Jeff Driscoll pulling it down and running and 226 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 4: or throwing it up to Kenny gall and I play 227 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: that out man, No love it. 228 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 6: And they have no running game. Like even now Ty 229 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 6: Johnson's in the protocol. I mean, it's it's just getting 230 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 6: worse and worse that backfield. 231 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 4: But the thing is, it's counterintuitive that I actually prefer 232 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 4: to use him in cash for those reasons than in 233 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 4: tournaments where you just you really need the top quarterback 234 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: that week to get there. 235 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 6: I feel like sometimes we overthink it though, like Driscoll 236 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 6: could be that top quarterback just because think about You know, Dak. 237 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: We know he has that upside. We're debating whether he 238 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: will reach it. 239 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 6: But if Dak hits his upside, Let's say he gets 240 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 6: thirty d K points and Driscoll has to like play 241 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 6: in a shootout and gets twenty eight or twenty nine. 242 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, today, you're right. I actually I didn't 243 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 4: let my mind go there, but you just went there. 244 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 4: So thank you? 245 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 2: All right, Manchin, So you are interested at least in 246 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: Jeff chery school. This week? You are down on Drew Brees, 247 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: anyone else you're relatively down on. 248 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 4: You know, Cowboys scouts wanted to draft Driscoll over Dak Prescott. 249 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 4: The great irony of this game is that Cowboys were 250 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 4: gonna select Jef Driskell. They had his name written down, 251 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 4: and Jerry Jones fielded a call for Michael Irvin, and 252 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 4: in real time Michael Irvin convinced Jerry Jones it had 253 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 4: to be Dak Prescott and he switched the card at 254 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 4: the last minute. 255 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: Is there a quarterback you're relatively down on this week? 256 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, Dak Prescott for all the reasons I said earlier. 257 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 4: Drew Brees, Right, Drew Brees on the road. I think 258 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: that's another trap game for Drew Brees. Drew Brees also 259 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: is forty. I know that this is a very available information. 260 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 4: This is not an advanced metric, but he is forty 261 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 4: and he has not looked great. So maybe just don't 262 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 4: play him on the road. Maybe they may just make 263 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 4: that rule, make that hard and fast rule in your model, 264 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 4: you don't play Drew Brees on the road, even when 265 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 4: it looks enticing. He also doesn't have the mobility. So 266 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 4: if you're not gonna have the mobility and you have 267 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 4: these home road splits working against you and it feels trappy, 268 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 4: you just you don't have to play that guy, all. 269 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 2: Right, Sean, who are you relatively low on this week? 270 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with Jimmy g It's a great match 271 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 7: up on paper. He threw for over three hundred yards 272 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 7: and four touchdowns against these Cardinals just you know, a 273 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 7: couple of games ago. But you know, depending on Emanuel 274 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 7: Sanders and George Kittle's health, this could be a game 275 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 7: they just go run heavy, lean on their defense to 276 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 7: win it. So you know, at sixty seven hundred, I 277 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 7: just don't think he has the ceiling to warrant that 278 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 7: price when Josh Allen dak Sean Watson are the same 279 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 7: exact price. 280 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 4: Josh Allen over Jimmy Garoppolo, Right, Sean. 281 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure, Alan has a better ceiling for combo. 282 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 7: He's actually one hundred dollars cheaper. So yeah, this is 283 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 7: the matchup where I don't think Jimmy G is gonna 284 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 7: go off. We might see Tevin Coleman finally have a 285 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 7: big game. He's been due. So I think they'll just 286 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 7: this will be a more run heavy game and lean 287 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 7: on the defense than Jimmy G. 288 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 5: Going off, especially if Sanders and Kittle are out again. 289 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 7: I think that they'll just run at a ton got 290 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 7: For me, it's. 291 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 6: Like guys like in rankings, just Gared Goff, Carson Wentz, 292 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 6: guys that you might think, are you know, kind of 293 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 6: QB one streambul guys, Uh, you know, golfing a tough 294 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 6: matchup against the Bears defense, not as tough as it 295 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 6: used to be. That don't really like, especially with all 296 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 6: the old line injuries and then Wentz. You know, it 297 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 6: just seems like every week after week it's a tough 298 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 6: matchup for him. Just now going up to face the Patriots, 299 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 6: he is not Lamar Jackson, so I do not think 300 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 6: you want to start him. But in just in on 301 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 6: draft Kings, yeah, I think Jimmy g probably sticks out 302 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 6: as the guy that's the most overpriced. 303 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: Maybe Tom Brady a. 304 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 6: Little bit too, uh you know. He just I don't 305 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 6: think he has that same type of upside that that 306 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 6: we necessarily see. It's kind of not not not the 307 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 6: Drew Brees level of he's just like deteriorating or anything 308 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 6: like that. But you know, this is the kind of 309 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 6: offense they're they're thinking dunk, you know, no Josh Gordon 310 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 6: and all that. So not really I'm excited for even 311 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 6: against the Eagles defense, I think they could get some 312 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 6: pressure and kind of mess with with with what the 313 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 6: Patriots wanted to do. 314 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: Secondary is playing better too. They have Jalen Mills back, 315 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 4: they have Ronald Darby back, and they have a front 316 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: seven that gets pressure. So you're getting pressure and you 317 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: have an improved secondary. So the Philadelphia Eagles pass defense 318 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 4: isn't as bad as it was five weeks ago when 319 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 4: they were down to Avonte Maddox. It's just you have 320 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 4: to look at these defenses in context. Where are they 321 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 4: at right now with their unit? They haven't been as 322 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 4: healthy as they are right now all season coming out 323 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: of the buy totally agree. 324 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 6: I think I think that's a defense that they've always 325 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 6: been good at getting pressure, and you look at them 326 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 6: as like, oh, they gave these big numbers in a 327 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 6: pass game, but you want to target them more with 328 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 6: wide receivers and just hope that like a wide like 329 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 6: a you know, a guy like Doorset or somebody like 330 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 6: that can hit, rather than just saying, oh, they're a 331 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 6: bad pass defense because they could just get like eight 332 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 6: sacks and yeah, I just completely ruined somebody's day. 333 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: Now, it's going to be a s New week, That's 334 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 4: what it's going to be. And it's going to be 335 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 4: a big turd of a SiNW week whatever. 336 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: Man. Speaking of SNeW one thing that is almost unfathomable. 337 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 2: Unfathomable is that the Eagles are willingly still starting Avonte 338 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: Maddox in the slot. For some reason, they are they're 339 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: opting to do that. So, I mean, even though they're healthy, 340 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: they are still not as good as they should be, 341 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: and they're you know, exploitable in some areas, but they 342 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: will probably be better than they've shown to this point 343 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: in the season. Sean give us some of the props. 344 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: By the way, I should mention that everyone should check 345 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: out the prop school at Fantasy Labs. For the past 346 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: year year and a half. Since twenty eighteen, the props 347 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: that we've greaded with a bat quality of ten have 348 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: a sixty percent win rate. So pretty good number, right there, Sean, 349 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: What quarterback number do you want to give us? 350 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 7: So the pod Feather has been tipping his hand a 351 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 7: little bit of this one, but I'm going with Drew 352 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 7: Brees passing yards at the Bay. I think I think 353 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 7: he's made some great points. You know, this is a 354 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 7: smash spot, but we know Breeze, you know, tons of 355 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 7: struggle on the road. So right now I have his 356 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 7: his overrunner at two eighty six and a half. 357 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 4: Oh god, I'm going over. 358 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: I think it's the contrarian pig. 359 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 6: But I think everyone's going to be It's like the classic, 360 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 6: Oh we're down on breeze. 361 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: He's going to Tampa Bay. People don't. People don't try 362 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: to run on Tampa Bay. 363 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 6: First of all, like they're if you look at the 364 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 6: amount of carries they're allowing to the running back position. 365 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 6: And granted, now, like defensive matchupdate, you have to be 366 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 6: very careful with it. But this has been like a 367 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 6: repeating trend of just teams aren't trying to run against them. 368 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 6: They're top run defense. 369 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 4: Uh. 370 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 6: You know, Drew Brees could dump it off to Alvin 371 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 6: Kamara fifteen times, Michael Thomas fifteen times. 372 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: They could go for six yards to catch and Boomy hits. 373 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 3: He is his prop. So I'm going over terrible paths. 374 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 6: That's it. 375 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 4: I love how you said that's contrarian, even though to 376 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 4: the public what you said was chalk. But because you're 377 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 4: on this show with the characters, you had to go contrarian. Contrarian. Yeah, 378 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: I mean any old contrarian. 379 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: Any over to me is control is like contrarian and yeah, 380 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: and like it. 381 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 4: Was chock contrarian. In the context of the show, you have. 382 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 6: To just bang like unders are just the default, like 383 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 6: and every bet so every yeah, it's like in my 384 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 6: own head and over is contrarian. 385 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 2: That's right. 386 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, And you're in your head it's the under. 387 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 8: Take the under I'm going. 388 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 2: Over actually, And I know like Breeze is a flow 389 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: chart quarterback that when he's not at home, you don't 390 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: start him. But Sampa Bay is so bad they just 391 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: cut Vernon Hargraves, which is like a good thing, but 392 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 2: it's also a sign of like where they are as 393 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: a franchise that they're basically still cutting their number one 394 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: corner back and that might be a good thing for them, 395 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: like their their secondary is. 396 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 4: Oh, it is a good thing. The other corners they 397 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 4: have in the secondary athletic so it puts better players 398 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: in a position to cover primary wide receivers. I like 399 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 4: the move for them. I think it helps their pass 400 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 4: defense getting rid of Vernon Hargreaves. 401 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're starting rookies now. It's like this is not 402 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: a good situation in general. Like Breeze, he can get 403 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: over two hundred and eighty eight starts. I haven't projected for 404 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety. I'll take the over. I think 405 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: the line's close, but I'll take the over there. All right, 406 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: let's go to running backs. The guys at the top 407 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: of our rankings McCaffrey, Dalvin Cook, Ezekiel, Elliott Podfather. What 408 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: do you think of those guys anyone else that you 409 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: would include in the top three. 410 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 4: I think you could build a case for moving Josh 411 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 4: Jacobs into the top three and moving out Ezekiel Elliott, 412 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 4: and I think in cash games, you're gonna make a choice. 413 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 4: I have two of these three running backs unless you 414 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 4: want to play Driscoll and Ryan Griffin right, go down 415 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 4: the board. There there's a path right to play all 416 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 4: to jam in all three. But if you're making a 417 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 4: decision in cash, who are you knocking out? I'm knocking 418 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 4: out Elliott because he's not involved in the passing game. 419 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 4: He's just not In the offseason, the Dallas Cowboys tip 420 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 4: their hand, right. You have Michael Gallup developing into a 421 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: true weapon on the outside. They add Randall Cobb, who 422 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 4: operates close to the line of scrimmage. They had a 423 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 4: Jason Witten close to the line of scrimmage. They added 424 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 4: Tony Pollard right, So the law of the conservation of 425 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 4: targets tells you all those close to line of scrimmage 426 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 4: targets that were going to Ezekiel Elliott are now being 427 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 4: distributed around all these new weapons. So now he's getting 428 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 4: one to two targets a game the last couple of weeks, 429 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 4: and now they're in a position where they're gonna be 430 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 4: facing Jeff Driscoll right nine k on DK for running back. 431 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 4: They no longer catch his passes. How is that possible? 432 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 4: I think Derreck Henry would ever be nine k on DraftKings. 433 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 4: That's a brand equity salary pegging by DraftKings. Get out 434 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 4: of here, Get out of here with a player who's 435 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 4: now a workhorse. I give it as a workers He's 436 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 4: just not a bell cow. He's just not a bell cow. 437 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: And in that game it might be low scoring, and 438 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 4: you're banking on Ezekiel Elliott going over one hundred yards 439 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 4: and two touchdowns, that's the path. 440 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 2: I mean. 441 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 4: Even then, even if he goes over one hundred yards 442 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 4: and two touchdowns, he still may not get to three 443 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 4: X on DraftKings. Think about that. Let that sink in 444 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: without the passing game upside. 445 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 3: Who somebody's gotta to score. 446 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 6: Fantasy points in this game though, one of the rejected 447 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 6: highest scoring games of the week. 448 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 4: Somebody's got to score. Cranday, someone's gonna score. It's gonna 449 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 4: be draft This is gonna be Jeff driscoll. And Okay, 450 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 4: they get in the red zone. Great, right over the 451 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: red zone. Oh, Dak Prescott five yard touchdown? 452 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: All right, So you are relatively down on Zeeke, You're 453 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 2: high on Josh Jacobs I'm there with you on Jacobs 454 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: double digit home favorite going against the Bank that's top 455 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: four and running back scoring a great spot for him. 456 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: Totally love it. Sean, who are you relatively high on 457 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: this week? 458 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 7: Pretty high on both running backs in the Bills Dolphins game. 459 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 7: You know Caln Belage, say what you want. I know 460 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 7: he's he's pretty bad, but at forty three hundred, I'll 461 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 7: take him this week. You know, he had the full 462 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 7: workhorse role last week. You know we thought Gaskin and 463 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 7: layered with mix in, but you know, Blage played eighty 464 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 7: two percent of snaps. He saw four targets. Granted he 465 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 7: converted that into four catches for two yards, but at 466 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 7: forty three hundred, we're not asking for much. And you 467 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 7: know he's gonna get the goal line carry if they 468 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 7: arise in this game for them. And then you know 469 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 7: Devin Singletary again, he had sixty seven percent of the snaps. 470 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 7: We didn't really see, you know, the touch count you'd 471 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 7: expect from that. 472 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 5: It could have had. 473 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 7: To do with the game flow. You know, the Bills 474 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 7: were down pretty early playing catch up. So in this 475 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 7: matchup against the Dolphins, I think we're going to see 476 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 7: you know, fifteen to twenty touches for him, and again 477 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 7: they gave Frank or another goal line carry and he 478 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 7: got stuffed. So you know, I think they're going to 479 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 7: start to give Singletary the goal line carries. So I 480 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 7: just view Singletary as like a low key workhorse back 481 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 7: at six K against the Dolphins. He's gonna be one 482 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 7: of my high zone running backs on this slate. So 483 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 7: I love both. I wouldn't say I love the Lodge, 484 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 7: but I like him at his price relative to his 485 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 7: projection this week. 486 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 4: You can never love Blage, right, you can't love them, 487 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 4: you can never love No one's ever gonna love Ballage. 488 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 4: You can love Singletary this week. 489 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, exactly, exactly, my god. 490 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 4: I love that Frank Gore only got five carries last week. 491 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 4: That was the most important number, and that once again 492 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 4: Devin Singletary doubled his yards for carring. 493 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 8: He does it every week. 494 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: Eventually, the Bills coaches have to put on the tape 495 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 4: from the previous week, right and be like, okay, Frank, 496 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 4: why don't you just take a seat, buddy, maybe not 497 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 4: get up. 498 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 7: If they're smart Singletary, we'll, you know, see twenty touches 499 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 7: this week, so I agree, and this matchup is perfect 500 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 7: for him. 501 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: Ray Bound, Who do you like this week? 502 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 3: A couple of. 503 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 6: Guys going against bad run defenses. You got Brian Hill 504 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 6: for the Falcons. Looks like he's going to be starting 505 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 6: for Devonte Freeman Panthers, the number thirty two ranked run defense. 506 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 3: And I thought, I always think it's interesting, like we 507 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 3: talked about this a. 508 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 6: Little bit with Bolige last week, but looking at the 509 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 6: guys who may back up a guy who's kind of 510 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 6: thrust into the role, because there was a lot of 511 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 6: value there in terms of touches for guys like Edmunds 512 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 6: and Blige, even they didn't really hit. 513 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: And then so for. 514 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 6: The Falcons, like Kenjon Barner is the other running back 515 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 6: and he played special teams, but they only gave him 516 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 6: one carry. That's his high for the year. He's only 517 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 6: got two carries on a year. And Quinn said Quadria 518 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 6: Allison might be involved, which kind of tens He's been 519 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 6: a scratch all year. So it's kind of another situation, 520 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 6: kind of like the Gaskin thing where I think you 521 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 6: kind of slot Hill in for twenty touch upside and 522 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 6: he got twenty carries last week went when Freeman went down, 523 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 6: So I like him, you know, cheap option on DK 524 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 6: and then on the high end Leonard Fournette. He's a 525 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 6: guy I think you could also make a case for 526 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 6: over Ezekiel Elliott. Leonard Fournette has for the most part 527 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 6: been involved in the passing game all season. 528 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 3: His low and snap count is seventy eight percent. 529 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 6: And this Colts defense is number twenty seven and run 530 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 6: DVA number six in past DVOA, So it sets up 531 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 6: in one of those situations where they keep handed it 532 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 6: to four Nette. 533 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 4: Are you guys worried about the Carolina Panthers defense not 534 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 4: being as bad as they look. They've given up all 535 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 4: these touchdowns to opposing running backs, but not as much 536 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: on they're not as bad against running backs, and we 537 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 4: just when you'll get pure yardage and efficiency getting correct 538 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 4: like we see the the same old Falcons where the 539 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 4: run game has been one of the worst in the league, 540 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 4: lowest efficiency run blocking in the NFC. It's very possible 541 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 4: that Brian Hill doesn't get there just because he's shut down. 542 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 4: He shut out early, they have to pivot over to 543 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 4: pass mode and he's forgotten about in the second half 544 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 4: that's that's the risk with Brian Hill on the road 545 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 4: at Carolina. 546 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 6: I don't know about that though, because I think, you know, 547 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 6: with running backs, efficiency is so close together between you know, 548 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 6: the top guys in the bottom guys that you have 549 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 6: to go with opportunity. He was a guy that even 550 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 6: in the like we saw the preseason, he can play 551 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 6: on it on passdowns as well. I think the only 552 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 6: reason Barney even got any run was because, I mean, 553 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 6: Hill did have twenty carries and they had to put 554 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 6: some other back in the game at some point. But 555 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 6: I do think I think you just have to go 556 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 6: with the opportunity here, and you have a situation where 557 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 6: a guy who could essentially get all of the touches 558 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 6: for you know, a really cheap price. 559 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 4: In the context of the slate, I'm just struggling to 560 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 4: find places where I would be motivated to plug in 561 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 4: Brian Hill in DFS. So it's very much the difference 562 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 4: between the DFS play versus seasonal leagues, where he's definitely 563 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 4: someone you're gonna flex. 564 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 6: I would just flex like I would feel more comfortable 565 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 6: flexing him than Blage, to be honest, I mean. 566 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 4: Seoul, would you rather flex Hill or Bolage. 567 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, And I'm not that concerned about Barner or 568 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 7: even Olison. I think they'll just be a change of 569 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 7: pace back. Well, Ollison look like shit in the preseason. 570 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 4: I think he's terrible. 571 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I reading these guys are scratches. 572 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 6: Look at Gaskin like he didn't get a cat did 573 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 6: he even get a cag like one carry or something 574 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 6: like two touches last week? 575 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: Like this is there's major upset here. 576 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 7: If they get down early, I could see them turning 577 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 7: to Barner as being sort of the you know, the 578 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 7: pass catching back. That'd be my only concern. But I 579 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 7: do think he's going to be the workhorse back here, 580 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 7: and you know the price at forty one hundred, I 581 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 7: don't think you're taking that much a risk with him. 582 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 7: He probably will be chalky, so that's the only reason 583 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 7: to maybe fad him in terments. 584 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 5: But I do like Hill a lot this week. 585 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: Or Kelly, you're relatively low on Zeke anyone else you 586 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: are kind of low on this week. 587 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 4: That's a good question. I don't know. I mean, maybe 588 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 4: Marlon Mack. I mean I like the home game, but 589 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 4: quarterback matters man and Brian Hoyer is not Jacoby Brissett. 590 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 4: I think we're now starting to have this additional appreciation 591 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 4: for Jacoby Brissett. It was really bad timing, right. This 592 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 4: reminded me of the Teddy Bridgewater knee injury where the 593 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 4: guys took a free agent he's going to make millions 594 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: of dollars, become the starter next season. Then he hears me, 595 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 4: and that happened to Jacoby Brissette as well. So kind 596 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 4: of a devastating timing for that knee injury, and devastating 597 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 4: timing for the Colts who had actually figured out a 598 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 4: way to win with their backup quarterback in the NFL, 599 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 4: which is hard to do. But Marlon Mack is really, 600 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 4: I think the guy that suffers more than the receivers. 601 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 4: If you can't matriculate the ball down the field, if 602 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 4: you can't sustain drives, Marlon Mack needs those red zone 603 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 4: touches to score fantasy points. And it's an underdiscussed aspect 604 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 4: of running back production. Who the quarterback is and can 605 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 4: they sustain drives. The answer is not really, and especially 606 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 4: not against Jacksonville, even even at home. You want to 607 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 4: play Molin Mack at home, I get it, but to me, 608 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 4: it's an easy fade Sean. 609 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: Who you relatively lo on. 610 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 7: So you know, Royce Freeman is a guy that I 611 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 7: think people usually overlook, so he might be surprising as 612 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 7: he's on my low on. But he's a guy I've 613 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 7: been sort of propping up the past couple of weeks. 614 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 7: Is a you know, by loguy, I love RB two 615 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 7: flex type running backs that have the potential to be 616 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 7: an RB one if their counterpart and their committee goes down. 617 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 5: So but you know, the. 618 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 7: First game Brandon Allen started is a big concerning that 619 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 7: he only targeted Freeman and Lindsay once. And Freeman does 620 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 7: get most of his production in the past game, so 621 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 7: it's a bit concerning that Brandon Allen he was more 622 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 7: willing to just pull it down run with it than 623 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 7: dump it off to Freeman. So we're gonna have to 624 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 7: monitor this. I wouldn't start him this week if you 625 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 7: can help it, So leave them on your bench and 626 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 7: sort of see how this pans out. But also, DeVante 627 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 7: Booker made his first appearance this this year and got 628 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 7: to catch, so you know he can. Yeah, so if 629 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 7: he gets involved at all, you know he's back. He's back, 630 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 7: So you know, you just put. 631 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 4: Him and Frank Gore and Calum Belage on a team 632 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 4: together is never forgetting just league forgot that team, man. 633 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 5: Right, put him on the Eagles, that'd be great. 634 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 4: I put him somewhere. 635 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 5: But yeah, so that's a big concern. 636 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 7: So I'm leaving Freemaw on my bench this week, which 637 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 7: is a shame because that you know, the past few 638 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 7: weeks I've been telling people buy low. I do love 639 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 7: him long term, but with Brandon Allen under center, it 640 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 7: has changed things. So that's that's why I'm pretty low 641 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 7: on this week. 642 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 4: Well that's actually you're taking that in a more granular way, 643 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 4: not just saying, hey, is this quarterback good or bad? 644 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 4: But specifically the way this quarterback plays hurts particular running 645 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 4: backs he had. That's interesting. 646 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 7: He would pull it down and run with it, and 647 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 7: Flacco would not do that. He would dump it off 648 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 7: to the running backs. So that's and you know he 649 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 7: does seem to gravitate to dumping off the tight end. 650 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 7: So that's why had a better game. So it's just 651 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 7: something I'm monitor. It's a one game sample, but just 652 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 7: something a monitor. So so Freeman should be on your 653 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 7: bench this week. 654 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: Raybond, who are you relatively long on this week. 655 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 6: The Eagles run game, Jordan Howard, mostly because I think 656 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 6: Miles Sanders can do some things in the past game. 657 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 6: But you know, I think you have to fade these 658 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 6: running backs that are dependent mostly on touchdown scoring and 659 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 6: getting getting fed a out of carriers and positive game 660 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 6: script when there is a decent chance that they're not. 661 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 6: Like So this is where I think, like what Matt 662 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 6: was saying about about Brian Hill, you know, he's so 663 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 6: cheap in DFS and that I don't think it matters. 664 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 6: But a guy like Howard, I would try to bench 665 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 6: this week in in season long weeks, just because the Patriots, 666 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 6: you know, coming off a loss, coming off a bye, 667 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 6: all these things, they tend to produce above expectation at 668 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 6: and kind of smash, you know, in that next week. 669 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: So this could be a tough spot. You know. 670 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 6: I know the Eagles are at home, but it could 671 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 6: be a tough spot for them again. You know, Lamar 672 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 6: Jackson is one thing, Carson Wentz in this Eagles offense 673 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 6: is a whole other thing, and they they haven't been 674 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 6: really good all year. 675 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 7: All right, Sean hit us with the prop, So I'm 676 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 7: gonna go with Damian Williams total rushing and receiving yards. 677 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 7: You know, yeah, the big game, le Shaun McCoy was inactive, 678 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 7: probably due to fumbeling issues, so Damian got the start 679 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 7: and then he had a pretty costly fumble for it 680 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 7: got returned for a touchdown. So curious to hear where 681 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 7: you guys have Williams this week. I have his over 682 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 7: under at seventy two and a half right now. 683 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: I will take the under. I have him projected for 684 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: a nice sixty nine, So that's where I'm gonna be. 685 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have him just under two. 686 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 6: I mean, this casey backfield has been just miserable to 687 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 6: project all. Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if like Williams 688 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 6: gets two carries next week. 689 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 5: Right. 690 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 7: It's tough, right, and it's not like we can ignore them. 691 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 7: I mean, there's just too much potential there. So I mean, 692 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 7: this week's going to be pretty tough. I mean, McCoy 693 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 7: could end up being, you know, the guy that gets 694 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 7: fifteen to twenty touches this game. 695 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 5: We just don't know. 696 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 3: I'd pick him one. 697 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: How do we even do this withou way knowing if 698 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 4: McCoy is active. This is one of those lines that 699 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 4: should be off until all the actives inactives get released, 700 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 4: because it's like. 701 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: How do you know? 702 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 6: Can you said a line on that sean like like 703 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 6: what are the odds of one of one of the 704 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 6: two being scratched, like whether it's Williams or McCoy this week. 705 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 5: I think they're done scratching McCoy. 706 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 7: If anything, it'll be Darwin Thompson again that gets scratched. 707 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 7: I know there were some issues, you know, when michoy 708 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 7: got when McCoy got scratched. I loaded up on the 709 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 7: Damian Williams overprops, and I think one of the books 710 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 7: canceled them because they said they weren't sure which Dee 711 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 7: Williams it was, because you know they have Darryl as well, 712 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 7: oh w which is interesting. But you know, you know 713 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 7: these four running backs, one of them will merge I 714 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 7: think in the fancy playoffs. So I think it's it's 715 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 7: worth always just investing in these casey running backs to 716 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 7: have on your bench for the time being, but hopefully 717 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 7: hopefully one of them emerges in the next couple of weeks. 718 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 4: I the Chargers give up a lot of yards to 719 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 4: opposing running backs. They are a run funnel defense and 720 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 4: it's the Kansas City Chiefs, and they spread you out 721 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 4: and they make it very difficult to stop anyone at 722 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 4: any time. Right, So he's going to be facing a 723 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 4: lot of nickel defense against a team that wants you 724 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 4: to run the ball, is coaxing you to run the ball. 725 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 4: So I'll take the over just on that alone. And 726 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 4: he has the breakaway speed, right so he is one 727 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 4: of the faster running backs in the league, especially for 728 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 4: those over two hundred and twenty pounds. So for that reason, 729 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 4: Also assuming that if Leshron McCoy was inactive last week, 730 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 4: there's no reason why he wouldn't be inactive this week. 731 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 4: There's been no injuries in that backfield. He had one 732 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 4: fumble Damian Williams as a veteran, so ideally that it 733 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 4: wouldn't be hold against him because he's a veteran. The 734 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 4: matchup is enticing. If we know McCoy to be inactive, 735 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 4: I'll take the over. How about that. 736 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: I hope you're enjoying this great Action network podcast. I 737 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: want to make sure you know about the locked On 738 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: podcast network. Locked On has a daily podcast on your 739 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: favorite team. 740 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 4: Welcome to you, Lockdown forty nine ers. 741 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: You are locked own of the Dallas Maverick. 742 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 4: Can everybody to the Lockdown Lakers podcast Let's Go Locked 743 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 4: On pod Gut are hosted by the local experts who 744 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 4: know your team better than anyone and give you the 745 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 4: inside scoop. 746 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: So go to your podcast app and search locked on 747 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: your favorite team, subscribe to your locked on podcast. 748 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: Joining us for a weekly DFS interlude is Peter Jennings 749 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 2: akacs he or Amy, a two time DFS World champion 750 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 2: and co founder of Fantasy Labs. Pete Week ten, How 751 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: was it? 752 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 4: Week ten? 753 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: Was good? 754 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 8: I did well in cash games. I had a good week. 755 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 8: I have not done as well in DraftKings over the 756 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 8: last year or so, and I actually got top five 757 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 8: in the Gridiron, which was a month long tournament, and 758 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 8: plays well my main tournament team, and did it well 759 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 8: in DraftKings. So hoping to keep grinding and yeah, it 760 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 8: was a good week all right on to week eleven. 761 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: How do you think you are approaching cash games and GPPs. 762 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 8: I think it's pretty wide open. There's a lot of 763 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 8: different plays that we have. We'll see what news breaks, 764 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 8: but it's pretty wide open in terms of construction. I 765 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 8: have a lot of plays. I like cheap mid tier 766 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 8: and expensive. So as we sit here on Tuesday, hard 767 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,719 Speaker 8: to tell exactly how I'm gonna build, but I have 768 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 8: a lot of plays I like, all. 769 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: Right, let's start to get into those plays. At quarterback. 770 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 2: Who has caught your eye? 771 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,959 Speaker 8: Well, I think if you want to go cheap, Kyle 772 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 8: Allen makes the most sense. He's fifty three hundred on 773 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 8: DraftKings going against Atlanta. I know the Staints just played 774 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 8: poorly versus defense, but I'm going to look at that 775 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 8: as more of an anomaly. 776 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: Atlanta has been. 777 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 8: Awful defensively all year, and I think Kyle Allen can have. 778 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 2: A great game here. 779 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 8: You get a little exposure to Christian McCaffrey this way, 780 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 8: you know him throwing the ball to Christian and fifty 781 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 8: three hundred I like spending down at quarterback. He's a 782 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 8: nice option in the mid tier. Towards the expensive range. 783 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 8: I think Dak Prescott stands out quite a bit. I 784 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 8: definitely want to exposure to Dallas players looking to stack 785 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 8: him with Amari and Michael Gallup and then all the 786 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 8: way at the top. And Lamar Jackson has just been 787 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 8: so ridiculously good as a huge floor and obviously has 788 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 8: the highest ceiling with his rushing upside, So against Houston, 789 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 8: who could actually push the Ravens a bit, I think 790 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson has the high ceiling. 791 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 2: And to your point about Kyle Allen, he's definitely popping 792 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: in many of our DraftKings models at Fantasy Labs at 793 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 2: running back. Who are you looking at right now? 794 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 8: So running back is probably the toughest position right now. 795 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 8: I think it's definitely a tricky position relative to other weeks. Obviously, 796 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 8: at the top you can go with Christian McCaffrey. He's 797 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 8: really really expensive, so that's the challenge ten to five. 798 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 8: We saw last week. He really needs to go nuts 799 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 8: to pay off. But something he's a good play. So 800 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 8: at the top I like Christan McCaffrey, that's not news 801 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 8: to anyone. I think In the mid tier, I like 802 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 8: Josh Jacobs the most. Cincinnati's been really really bad us 803 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 8: running backs, and Josh Jacobs has been awesome for you know, 804 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 8: basically the last month or so. I didn't have a 805 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 8: great game versus the Texans, but three touchdowns is the 806 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 8: last two games getting a lot of opportunity and starting 807 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 8: to see some more involvement in the passing game. Five 808 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 8: targets last week was encouraging. So I'm on Josh Jacobs 809 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 8: and then if you need a punt, Camon Belage for 810 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 8: the Dolphins got a lot of work last week. It's 811 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 8: brutal trying roster of Dolphin versus the Bills. But twenty 812 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 8: carries last week, as well as four targets in the 813 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 8: passing game. Hard to get that much volume or it's 814 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 8: not possible to find that much volume really outside of 815 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 8: Blage for that price tag. 816 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, to your point about Jacob's double digit home favorite 817 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 2: going against a Bengals defense that is top four and 818 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 2: running back scoring and has allowed pretty much any running 819 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 2: back who touches the ball at least, you know, eight 820 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: times a game to go off. So a good situation 821 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: for him there. At wide receiver, who are you looking at? Yeah? 822 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 8: My favorite wide receiver on the board this week is 823 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,720 Speaker 8: actually probably going to be Mike Evans or Chris Godwin. 824 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 8: I really want to use this Tampa Bay receivers. 825 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 3: No. 826 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 8: New Orleans has been somewhat stinging defense. I respect their 827 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 8: defensive line a lot, but I want exposure to that 828 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 8: game and I think those receivers could be interesting, especially 829 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 8: coming off a week where they were chocky and didn't 830 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 8: exceed expectations. They are both pretty average, you know, I 831 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 8: think they're both really strong plays. You know in the 832 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 8: mid tier, DJ Moore, you're going to play Allen. I 833 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 8: think he's a really nice stack. Fifty nine hundred on 834 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 8: DraftKings is a pretty nice price tag given the opportunity. 835 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 8: He's seen, you know, no fewer than nine targets the 836 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 8: last four games, really starting to rack up a total 837 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 8: amount of targets and went over one hundred yards last 838 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 8: two games as well, without a touchdown. So a big 839 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 8: ceiling game could be here in the mix for DJ Moore. 840 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 8: And then in terms of punts, you got some pretty 841 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 8: ugly options Hunter Renfros popping for me right now. You know, 842 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 8: coming into the season, you know you had all the 843 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 8: hype around DK Metcalf and there's those funny pictures of 844 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 8: Metcalf for next to Renfro. He's not going to allow 845 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 8: you with his athleticism, but man, he's been getting it done. 846 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 8: And at four K he's a nice contrarian pivot off 847 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 8: Jacobs and exposure to this Oakland offense, which you mentioned 848 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 8: is a big home favorite. 849 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 2: I'm with you there on Evans. One thing that's in 850 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 2: his favor is that Marshaun Lattimore left last game with 851 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 2: a thigh injury. I'm expecting he's probably going to be 852 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 2: out this game. Even if he's active, I think he 853 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 2: will be limited. So good situation for Evans. Finally, tight ends. 854 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 2: Who are you looking at right now? 855 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean you want to play basically, Well, there's 856 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 8: a couple of things. Let mean, the first thing is 857 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 8: if Kittle is healthy, he's I just I'm a huge 858 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 8: George Kittle fan. You know it's cool here Kyle Shanahan 859 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 8: and say he is their best player. We won't know 860 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 8: until later in the week, but man Oj Howard got 861 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 8: it going against Arizona. They've just been giving up so 862 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 8: many fantasy points to tight end. So George Kittle's okay. 863 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 8: I will pay the price tag even with the injury 864 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 8: concern cheaper down. I think Greg Olsen. You know, we've 865 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,479 Speaker 8: talked a lot about all the Carolina players, He's another 866 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 8: piece you could go to. I think he's fine. Eric 867 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 8: Ebron I think will be on the field a lot 868 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 8: given the lack of receivers that this team has, So 869 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 8: he's another player that I think is interesting. Kind of 870 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 8: in that lower tier, and then zach Ertz. You know, 871 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 8: he's priced way down going against the Patriots, the Eagles 872 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 8: coming off of buye as well as the Patriots, so 873 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 8: that's an interesting game to me. I think zach Ertz 874 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 8: is a decent play, and then the best play in 875 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 8: that same range as probably Darren Waller going against the Bangles, all. 876 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 2: Right, and then finally any stacks that you think have 877 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 2: some value but might be lower owned. 878 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, so one stack that has a ton of value, 879 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 8: I'm not sure how it's going to be owned. But 880 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 8: Drew Brees to any of the pass catchers. It's crazy 881 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 8: what they did to Michael Thomas's price. I mean they 882 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 8: made Michael Thomas ninety nine hundred, so he's really expensive. 883 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 8: So that could be a pay up to be contrarion 884 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 8: type spot, but I definitely want to be buying Drew 885 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 8: Brees off a really poor game. I think it's a 886 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 8: really nice bounce back spot. Tampa Bay probably the biggest 887 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 8: funnel in the NFL. Great against the run, really bad 888 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 8: against the pass. So Drew Brees to literally Michael Thomas, 889 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 8: you going to pet pe Conurrion. I don't hate ted Gin, 890 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 8: don't hate Jared Cook, trey Quon Smith came back, Alvin 891 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 8: Kamara is there. So that's a lot of value I 892 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 8: think in buying the dip on these New Orleans guys, 893 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 8: and I think there's a ton of upside against this 894 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 8: Tampa Bay defense, which has gotten killed. As you noted 895 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 8: in your cornerback receiver article. They have just been putrid 896 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 8: versus receives. So I want Saints offense this week after 897 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 8: a bad game against the Falcons. 898 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 2: Yep, I'm right there with you. That was Peter Jennings 899 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 2: with his DFS thoughts for Week eleven. Okay, let's get 900 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 2: to the wide receivers. Matt Kelly. We have Michael Thomas, 901 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill, DeAndre Hopkins at the top of our rankings. 902 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on those guys anyone else you 903 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 2: think should be in the top tier. 904 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 4: Michael Thomas, Right, Michael Thomas and Michael Thomas and Michael Thomas. 905 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 4: Michael Thomas. Although I think he's going to be hurt 906 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 4: by the fact that there's no Vernon Hargreaves. We talked 907 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 4: about this earlier. You wish that there was a Vernon 908 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 4: Hargreaves that he could just beat like a drum on 909 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 4: the outside, but ninety nine hundred on DraftKings. I mean, 910 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 4: I think he's priced up so high that you maybe 911 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 4: use him in tournaments with the idea that the ownership 912 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 4: will be low because he's priced. 913 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 2: Up so high. 914 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 4: But I think that some will look at the matchup 915 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 4: and just find a way to play Michael Thomas anyway. 916 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 4: So it is hard to build a case for Michael 917 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 4: Thomas and tournaments at nine point nine k on DraftKings. 918 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 4: But I mean, he is the number one wide receiver 919 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 4: across the board. I mean, I can't construct an argument 920 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 4: for not having him number one, all. 921 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 2: Right, and then anyone else you are relatively high on 922 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 2: at the position. 923 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 4: Amari Cooper, right, I mean, how good was Amari Cooper 924 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 4: last week? Mark Cooper has been hurt all year. Remember 925 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 4: he hurt his foot in preseason, he hurt his knee 926 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 4: mid season, and he's finally healthy. And when he's finally healthy, 927 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 4: no one creates more separation at the target point than 928 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 4: Amari Cooper. And what do he do? Oh, I don't know. 929 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 4: Against Minnesota, the most overrated secondary in the league, up 930 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 4: fourteen targets close to one hundred and fifty yards in 931 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 4: a touchdown, Now he goes up against the Lions defense 932 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 4: and they allow a lot of yards on the ground 933 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 4: and through the air. So the only thing holding him 934 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 4: back is the negative the positive game script. Once you 935 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 4: get into the second half, they may shut him down 936 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 4: come fourth quarter, but Chris mentioned this earlier. They have 937 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 4: to score their points somehow, and it could be the 938 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 4: Cooper gets most of his production in the first half, 939 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 4: and so what he'll get there either way. I'm surprised 940 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 4: he's only seven point seven k on DraftKings. I thought 941 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 4: they would bid him up a little bit more, but 942 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 4: it was I think they played Sunday night, so because 943 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 4: it was a Sunday night game, they released the prices 944 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 4: for the next Sunday slate before the game starts, so 945 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 4: his salary has not yet been adjusted. That's why you're 946 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 4: going to see big ownership on Amari Cooper this week. 947 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 4: You can actually argue to fade him based on ownership potentially. 948 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 4: It's a tricky spot. 949 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 2: Sean, who are you relatively high on? 950 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 7: So I'm going DJ Moore again this week. He's only 951 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 7: fifty nine hundred. He hasn't scored a touchdowns since Week three, 952 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 7: but you know, with a high team twelve this week, 953 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 7: it's bumping up everybody in my model. He's due to score, 954 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 7: and I think that's why the buzz for him's sort 955 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 7: of been at bay. But he's just racking up targets, 956 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 7: catches and yards, so that this is a great spot 957 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 7: for him. Fifty nine k probably the last time you're 958 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 7: going to get in below six K, to be honest, 959 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 7: and then you know, Deebo Samuel, we got sort of 960 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 7: the Monday night football price discount with him at four k, 961 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 7: especially if Emmanuel Sanders and George Kill don't suit up, 962 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 7: he's gonna be extremely chocky at this price. And you 963 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 7: know he went off for eight catches, one hundred and 964 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 7: twelve yards, So if those two guys are out the 965 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 7: Leona and heavily in four k is just a steals. 966 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 7: People are gonna be able to spend down, and you 967 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 7: know they'll probably be able to fit in Michael Thomas, 968 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 7: like you said earlier, I don't think people are going 969 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,839 Speaker 7: to show it just because he's nine point nine k. 970 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 7: The values like Samuel pop up, Yeah, more people will 971 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 7: be on Thomas, and yeah, Cooper Cooper at seventy seven hundred, 972 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 7: I agree. I think he's going to be pretty highly 973 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 7: on it. And you said you mentioned that he's backed 974 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 7: one hundred percent. I don't think that's true. He's he's 975 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 7: playing through a few injuries, so it's scary to think, 976 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 7: you know how well he's playing, given he's not at 977 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 7: one hundred percent. 978 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 4: No, I think he's as healthy as he's been. 979 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 5: Exactly, So I agree with you. 980 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 2: They were on the same page, Raymond. Who are you 981 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 2: relatively high on. 982 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,240 Speaker 3: At the top? I think Julio Jones. 983 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 6: You know, everyone's gonna kind of say that the Panther's 984 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 6: tough matchup in the past, which I think they are, 985 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 6: but we've seen Julio Jones kind of come through in 986 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 6: some some really in the past and some tough matchups. 987 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 6: So you know, now you got Hooper, looks like he's 988 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 6: going to be out, you got Freeman out. That's about 989 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 6: twenty over about thirty percent of the targets. There's no 990 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 6: guarantee that that, you know, gets redistributed to like a 991 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 6: Russell gage or you know those guys. So I love 992 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 6: Julio Jones, just kind of like a monster target week 993 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 6: in a week that people might not be thinking about 994 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 6: him as much, and then going down the with Terry 995 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 6: McLaurin has been a guy that we haven't really been 996 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 6: able to play because Washington's been all these low scoring 997 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 6: kind of games. But I think against this Jets defense, 998 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 6: I think he has some potential. I think people are 999 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 6: going to overlook it because the total is solo, but 1000 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,439 Speaker 6: he's one of the best young receivers in the league 1001 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 6: and I think he has monster potentially against the bad 1002 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 6: Jets defense. I think Jamison Crowder has huge volume upside 1003 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 6: Sam Darnold in him. Their connection has been really good. 1004 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 6: I think it's now eighty yards and four of the 1005 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 6: six games with the note for it for crowd or so, 1006 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 6: you know, including that fourteen catch game he had in 1007 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 6: Week one. 1008 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 3: So like him going a little further down the price. 1009 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 4: I think you're going to see a lot of Chris 1010 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 4: Godwin in the player profile or DFS lineup genius GPPs 1011 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 4: because he's not facing Marshawn Lattimore. So whenever you see 1012 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 4: a true number one corner matching up with Mike Evans, 1013 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 4: that's always a cue to move off Evans and go 1014 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 4: over to Godwin. So when you see one of these 1015 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 4: prototypical shadow corners, and I know that Marshall Lattimore hasn't 1016 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 4: been playing well this year necessarily, and neither is Patrick Peterson. 1017 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 4: They do suppress the target share in the weeks that 1018 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 4: they line up across from, you know, a prototypical X 1019 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 4: receiver like Mike Evans. If there's going to be points 1020 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 4: scored right, someone has to score the points right, and 1021 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 4: you can imagine it being Godwin. 1022 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 2: All right, this is actually a week where I think 1023 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 2: I am going to be on Evans for a few reasons, 1024 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 2: and not to discount some of what you said there, 1025 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 2: because Godwin is always in play every week because he 1026 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 2: has Immen's talent, but Evans leads the league in air 1027 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 2: yards and yards after the catch combined on a per 1028 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 2: game basis. And more importantly, I think Latimore is likely 1029 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 2: to be out or limited this week because of the 1030 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 2: thigh injury he had last week, and so that means 1031 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 2: that everything gets better for all of those Tampa Bay players. 1032 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 2: So you have Eli Apple, who's going to be shadowing 1033 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's going to be shadowing Evans. PJ. Williams 1034 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 2: is going to go outside, and that means that Chauncey Gardner, 1035 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 2: Phillips or whatever his name is, like the third string 1036 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 2: safety who's a rookie is going to be playing in 1037 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 2: the slot. So a great spot for Godwin and a 1038 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 2: better spot for Evans as well. 1039 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 6: But for the per the Fantasy Labs NFL Trends tool, 1040 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 6: if you have played Mike Evans and Chris Godwin together 1041 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 6: every week, like regardless who just put. 1042 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 3: Both of them in, you'd have averaged out to. 1043 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 6: Forty three point eight points combined and plus thirteen plus 1044 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 6: minus essentially, So I think pretty good. 1045 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like this, this is maybe a spot where you 1046 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 2: just stack both of those guys. 1047 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 4: They should be the top like two or three price receivers. 1048 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 4: Can I take back what I said earlier. I'm going 1049 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 4: over on Drew Brees. Sorry, Sean, we got to change 1050 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 4: our opinion here. This changes everything. 1051 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 7: Stack Winston, Evans, Godwin and the Saints defense for when 1052 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 7: he throws a couple of pis ultimate stack. 1053 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 4: Oh definitely love it. I love that. Love throwing the 1054 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 4: defense in there, Kelly, who are you relatively long? Stefan Diggs? 1055 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 4: I mean Denver's defense is a run funnel defense, like 1056 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 4: they want you to run the ball, and you know, 1057 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 4: Chris Harris is is I think the ideal matchup. You know, 1058 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,439 Speaker 4: if you're looking at cornerbacks that can handle a guy 1059 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 4: like Stefan Diggs. He's not too big, He's sort of 1060 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 4: a slot corner plus, and I think those guys do 1061 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 4: the best against Stefan Diggs. So I think this is 1062 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 4: going to be the Dalvin Cook Show. And I think 1063 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 4: that even without Adam Thielen, you're expecting, oh no, Adam Thielen. Wow, 1064 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 4: it's going to be definitely play digs, and you certainly 1065 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,439 Speaker 4: should depending on your roster and see in the league, 1066 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 4: you're probably playing digs anyway. But I'm relatively low on 1067 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 4: him because in these types of matchups where you have 1068 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 4: a strong running game at home and going up against 1069 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 4: a strong secondary, I mean, all the headwinds are lining 1070 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 4: up to throttle Stefan Diggs production this week. 1071 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 6: Bro, I get a double take when I ran my 1072 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 6: projections and I saw where Stefan Diggs ended up. 1073 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,720 Speaker 3: He's at number thirty one. It's just one of those well. 1074 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 6: Scoring projected games that could get could get ugly for 1075 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 6: the pass catchers. 1076 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 4: But also remember Mike Zimmer said that Adam Thielen's week 1077 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 4: to week, which we know means month to month, so 1078 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 4: there's no guarantee feeling plays. There's a lot of fate 1079 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,479 Speaker 4: opportunity there. 1080 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 2: All right, So Raymond, you are relatively low on Diggs 1081 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 2: as well, Sean, who are you low on? 1082 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 7: I'm going to go with DJ Chark just I'm going 1083 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,240 Speaker 7: to be a little bit cautious with him with Foles returning, 1084 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 7: obviously a great chemistry with Minshew. I could see Foles, 1085 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 7: you know, widening the target tree, so to speak. You know, 1086 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 7: he had chemistry of Ddee Westbrook in the preseason, and 1087 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 7: DD's supposedly back to one hundred percent. We know if Foles, 1088 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 7: you know, brought in Chris Connelly, they have chemistry. So 1089 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 7: I get to see Chark getting a slightly lower target share. 1090 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 5: So I have him right now. Is my wide receiver eighteen. 1091 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 3: I think his ECR is wide wide receiver ten. 1092 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,720 Speaker 7: So I'm just going to be a little bit cautious 1093 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 7: with Foles returning to see where this goes. But it's 1094 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 7: not an indictment against Chuck's skill set. I think his 1095 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 7: numbers have matched his talent. But just with Foles under center, 1096 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 7: I'm going be a little bit careful with him this 1097 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 7: week in terms of my projections. 1098 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,760 Speaker 2: All right, Sean, I believe that your prop is also 1099 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,800 Speaker 2: for Shark. Go ahead, give it to us. 1100 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. So I want to hear your guys take 1101 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 5: on it. 1102 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 7: You know, if Foles returning, I have Charks receiving yards 1103 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 7: right now, they're at Indy. 1104 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,240 Speaker 5: I have it at sixty and a half. 1105 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,839 Speaker 2: Also take the over. I get your rationale for why 1106 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 2: he would maybe be less targeted this week, but I 1107 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 2: have him projected for about sixty five. 1108 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have him four or five for sixty five. 1109 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 3: So I'm going going over. 1110 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 4: I'll go under with Dede Westbrook back. We don't know 1111 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 4: how the targets will be distributed. We haven't seen him 1112 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 4: play solong. We just don't know what his preference is 1113 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 4: going to be, what the game plan is going to be. 1114 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 4: And inside receivers do better against the Indianapolis Colts, that's 1115 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,839 Speaker 4: how their defense is set up. So I'm going under 1116 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 4: on Shark. 1117 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 2: All right, Let's get to the tight ends. The guys 1118 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 2: at the top of our rankings George Kittle, Travis Kelcey, Hunter, Henry. 1119 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 2: But all three of those guys are somewhat uncertain, and 1120 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 2: you know, obviously those last who are not on the 1121 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 2: main slate, Kelly, who has your eye? 1122 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 4: I mean Mark Andrews, baby, I mean all the Mark Andrews, 1123 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 4: because you want to play Lamar Jackson, right, and if 1124 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 4: you're playing Lamar Jackson, you're gonna want to play Mark 1125 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,240 Speaker 4: Andrews a tight end that's in the Millimaker. Of course, 1126 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 4: he's by far and away the best option. Because of 1127 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 4: the Mexico City game is off the milli Maker. They 1128 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 4: might go back to Jack Doyle. We know that Brian 1129 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 4: Hoyer likes Jack Doyle. I think that there's very few 1130 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 4: options in that receiving game. We had a lot of 1131 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 4: drops from everyone in that passing game last week, and 1132 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 4: it seems like the only receiver you can trust in 1133 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 4: Indianapolis right now is Jack Doyle. So I'd play him. 1134 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,359 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's so the position is so thin 1135 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 4: that it's like it's like a lock that you're playing 1136 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 4: Jack Doyle this week. 1137 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 2: Sean wanting to talk about Eric Ebron is someone he's 1138 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,359 Speaker 2: relatively high on. 1139 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I love Ebron at thirty six hundred. 1140 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 7: You know, he had that closed door meeting with Frank 1141 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 7: Reich last week saying, you know, he wanted to get 1142 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 7: more involved in the offense, and sure enough, he saw 1143 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 7: twelve targets. It only resulted in a five fifty sixth line, 1144 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 7: so you know he left a lot on the board. 1145 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 7: He actually caught a touchdown and the ball just slipped 1146 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 7: out into the Dolphins defender for a pick. He made 1147 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 7: a pretty bad drop later in the game too, But 1148 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 7: the opportunity's there, and you know, hopefully Brussette can return 1149 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,879 Speaker 7: this week, or maybe they tried tried Kelly out. I'm 1150 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 7: under center. I didn't think Clayer good at all, but 1151 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 7: you know, the opportunities there and that's all you can 1152 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 7: ask for for a tight end under four K. So 1153 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 7: give me Eric Ebron drops an all. 1154 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 4: I would feel comfortable playing Jack Doyle in seasonal leagues 1155 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,720 Speaker 4: and in cash games, but in GPPs, I mean, fire 1156 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 4: up Eric Ebron, baby, yep, exactly, Raybon, who are you high? 1157 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 3: Jared Cook comes out of nowhere. 1158 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 6: Now he's up at He's number seven in the league 1159 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 6: in air yard share at twenty percent. 1160 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 3: But yeah, that kind of came out of nowhere. And 1161 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 3: now he's going the Bucks. 1162 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 6: Who are they are number twenty nine in DVOA versus 1163 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 6: the tight end position. So I think this is a 1164 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,359 Speaker 6: matchup where you know you've got to have you're don't 1165 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 6: have to pay attention to Michael Thomas, and I think 1166 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 6: that that's gonna start to help Cook. We've seen is 1167 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,760 Speaker 6: upside in the past. Then you have a good spot 1168 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 6: for Greg Olsen going against the Falcons defense. You know 1169 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 6: they've just been decimated by injuries, you know, in the secondary, 1170 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 6: so this is nothing new with them. You know, they're 1171 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 6: eighteenth and DVOA versus tight ends and this could be 1172 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 6: a higher scoring game. So like Olsen and and like 1173 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 6: Cook this week in Waller, I mean, Cincinnati's number thirty 1174 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 6: one versus tight ends in DVO. They have no linebackers. 1175 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 6: It's just like you said, the game script, but somebody's 1176 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 6: got to do something for them to get into positive 1177 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,879 Speaker 6: game script. And they give a lot more. They give 1178 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 6: up more production to tight ends than they give up 1179 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 6: to like number one wide receivers and all that. 1180 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,240 Speaker 4: So we's averaged thirty yards last three weeks. 1181 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 3: Great time to buyball. 1182 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 2: Let's just skip the tight ends we aren't high on 1183 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 2: because that's basically everyone. Let's get to the prop because 1184 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 2: that's what Sean is going to talk about. 1185 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, getting to the Darren Waller prop. I already got 1186 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 7: your guys take you guys seem pretty high on him. 1187 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:17,919 Speaker 7: He was the guy I'm below on because I think 1188 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 7: this game script where our ten point favorites could hurt him. 1189 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 7: You know, we've seen him. He's averaged sixteen point three 1190 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 7: to five half VPR points in their four losses and 1191 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 7: only seven point three eight on their five wins, So 1192 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 7: I think he's sort of a guy that benefits from 1193 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,760 Speaker 7: negative game scripts either way. I have his receiving yards 1194 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 7: at fifty four and a half right now under I'll 1195 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 7: go over. 1196 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 6: I just think this defense is bad enough that all 1197 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 6: it takes is one big play, And sometimes I think 1198 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 6: we talk ourselves into all these games scripts with the 1199 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 6: bottom line is I mean, Cincinnati could come out and 1200 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 6: just like that Oakwen defense is bad, Ryan Finley could 1201 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 6: get it to go with like two touchdowns in the 1202 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 6: first quarter. Like, I think this is one of those 1203 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 6: high variant games where I wouldn't mind loading up on 1204 00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 6: some water. 1205 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 2: I'll take the over. I think it's a good line. 1206 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 2: I'm actually pretty close on it, but I'm slightly to 1207 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 2: the over. Let's get to the Twitter fantasy questions and 1208 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 2: let's blaze through them. Mansion. This is from Yeah Okay, dude, 1209 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 2: does Brian Hill have a real chance of being the man, 1210 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 2: not just this year but next year in Atlanta? 1211 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,720 Speaker 4: No, of course not. Have you seen the running backs 1212 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 4: that are set to enter the draft in twenty twenty, 1213 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 4: Oh my god, And you know the Falcon is going 1214 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 4: to be in the market for a running back. I 1215 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 4: project the Falcons to draft running back in the second 1216 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 4: round and immediately render or relegate Brian Hill to backup duties. 1217 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 4: But he's going to be fantasy relevant for a long time. 1218 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 4: He was an all purpose back at Wyoming. He's twittered 1219 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 4: and twenty pounds. He's an above average athlete across the board. 1220 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 4: I think he's an adequate at best receiver. He has 1221 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,439 Speaker 4: at least shown that he can catch the ball. He's 1222 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 4: not the most incompetent receiver. And if you're just the 1223 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 4: backup running back for the Atlanta Falcons, if they could 1224 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 4: invest in the offensive line next year, plenty of running backs, 1225 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,439 Speaker 4: especially rookie running backs, flame out in their first year 1226 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 4: for one reason or another. So he's a guy you're 1227 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 4: gonna want a draft next year in the double digit rounds, 1228 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 4: assuming he's the backup. But I think he's good, like 1229 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 4: I think that's the big debate is Brian Hill good 1230 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 4: or bad? I think he's good. I think he's going 1231 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 4: to be in the NFL a long time. But I 1232 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 4: do believe the Falcons will be drafting a talent at 1233 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 4: running back in the draft. 1234 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 2: All right, Sean, this is from Triple Crown. With the 1235 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 2: loss of Austin Hooper, who should owners be looking at 1236 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 2: for tight end? 1237 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, so I mentioned this earlier. I'm in the same predicament. 1238 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 7: There's nothing much you can do. You just have to 1239 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 7: stream tight end. So that involves looking at our rankings 1240 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 7: and whoever is the highest ranked tight end that is available, 1241 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 7: You're going to play that guy. It's not pleasant, but 1242 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 7: that's all you can do. Don't do something stupid like trade, 1243 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,399 Speaker 7: you know, Dave Montgomery Way just to get Jared Cook. 1244 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 7: I see people do that where they feel like they 1245 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 7: need to just have a top fifteen tight end just 1246 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 7: to have on their team. You're just gonna have to 1247 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 7: survive with, you know, like a Noah fan or. 1248 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 4: I have a great idea if a guy named Ryan 1249 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,760 Speaker 4: Griffin is available. He's run twenty five or more routes 1250 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,359 Speaker 4: in all three games since Sam Darnold returned until last week. 1251 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,360 Speaker 4: Of course, with Chris Herndon. But now Chris Herndon is 1252 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 4: out again, we're gonna see a lot of routes run 1253 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 4: by Ryan Griffin and he has double digit touchdown upside, 1254 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,959 Speaker 4: which we saw in Week eight against Jacksonville. Look Out 1255 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 4: for Ryan Griffin, guys, a stud. 1256 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, so exactly if you have Hooper, you're gonna have 1257 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,879 Speaker 7: for land, you know, garbage like Ryan Griffin for the time. 1258 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 3: Hopefully, hopefully, hopefully. 1259 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 7: You know, a lot of my Hooper teams are you know, 1260 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 7: pretty much set for the playoffs. Hopefully he'll be back 1261 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 7: for the fancy playoffs and you know, you'll just have 1262 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 7: to survive the next couple weeks with them. 1263 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,240 Speaker 5: So so hopefully he's back in three weeks. 1264 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 2: All right, final question here, Raymond, is Todd Gurley toast 1265 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 2: or is it a product of the O line. 1266 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 3: It is a product of the old line. 1267 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 6: It's also a product of just they do really want 1268 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:54,800 Speaker 6: to kind of limit his workload. 1269 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I think you're 1270 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 3: gonna get more of the same from him. 1271 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 6: You're gonna get about fifteen carries, you're gonna get, you know, 1272 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,959 Speaker 6: good games when he has touchdown variants go on his side. 1273 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 6: And he gets one or two and some bad games 1274 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,240 Speaker 6: when he does it. But I'm still a top twenty 1275 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 6: four running back in mind, all. 1276 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,319 Speaker 2: Right, everyone, be sure to follow Matt on Twitter at 1277 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 2: Fantasy Underscore Mansion. You can follow Sean, Chris and Me 1278 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 2: and the Action Network app at the Underscore Odds maker 1279 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 2: Chris Raybond and Matt f the Oracle. Use the app 1280 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 2: to get real time odds and track your bets for free. 1281 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 2: That is going to do it for this episode of 1282 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 2: the Action Network podcast. Check out the rest of our 1283 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 2: episodes and live shows this week. 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