1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to work in progress. 2 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: Please welcome to this day, Sophia. 3 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: Let me just put my notes down. My dog here 4 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: to copy of this book. You know, well, Hi Canada, 5 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: this is very cool. 6 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 3: I am. 7 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm so thrilled to be here with you as a moderator, 8 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: as a dual citizen of the US and this great country, 9 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: and as a woman who believes very much in democracy. Now, 10 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: before I bring out the star of our show, there's 11 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: a few things we need to shore up here. You 12 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: and I Toronto. No, I am not related to the 13 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: former president of the United States. My dad is from Montreal, 14 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: which is why I know to say Montreal and not Montreal. 15 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: He is an artist, he's never been a politician. Yes, 16 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: I am an actor, you could say television personality, but 17 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: I do actually know the difference between domestic and foreign Wolcy, 18 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: would you think you'd be relevant in my other country? 19 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 4: Now? 20 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: As someone who's been volunteering in democratic politics for nearly 21 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: twenty years now, who hails from California, I have had 22 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: the deep honor of being represented by Vice President Kamala 23 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: Harris in a number of her roles serving the people. 24 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: From being a champion for small business women who've suffered violence, 25 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: the LGBT community, and both our love and our rights. 26 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: She's also, if I may say so, myself, really great 27 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: person to have announced that you're in love with a 28 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: woman on Instagram for you. She did that for me, 29 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: and it was basically my best claim to fame. All right, y'all, 30 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: are you ready to have a kiki with the vice president? 31 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Kamala Harris. 32 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 5: Good, thank you, thank you, thank you. 33 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 6: We're taking the time we spend some time with us 34 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 6: this afternoon. 35 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 4: Thank you. 36 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 6: It's great to see everybody. 37 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: Hi. 38 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: Hi, Well that made me emotional. Wow, there's so much 39 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: love in this room. Thank you for continuing. 40 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 6: For each other. Yeah, that's what we do. That's what 41 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 6: we all do. 42 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: But in a time that is really so divided. Thank 43 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: you for helping us gather in this way. It's really 44 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: profoundly meaningful. 45 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 6: We're all here together. Oh, we all here together. 46 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: Okay, before we dive into all the things, because twenty 47 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: twenty five really is twenty twenty fiving and even into 48 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: this magnificent window into this one hundred and seven days 49 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: you've given us, I actually really want to go back okay, 50 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: because you are someone who we know sort of. We 51 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: know your history, we know your record, we know all 52 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: these incredible things you've done. But if we could perform 53 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: a really cool science experiment and suddenly in this room 54 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: be on the playground with Kamala Harris at eight years old. 55 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 7: Oh. 56 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what would you see in her? What aspects 57 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: of that little girl would you and maybe those of 58 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: us who follow you recognize today? 59 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: You would not recognize that I was a pigeon toe 60 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 4: did not meat, and I used to run a lot 61 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 4: scrapes on my knees to prove it. You know, I 62 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 4: grew up in a family and a community. 63 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 6: It's a real blessing, and I know it. 64 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 4: I grew up in an environment that every signal that 65 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 4: was sent to the children was that that you can 66 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: be and do anything that you are loved and something 67 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 4: else that I think we all do or should try 68 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 4: to do, which is what I received, which is people 69 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: telling me I was special and I wasn't particularly special, 70 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 4: but I believed them when they said it. And there's 71 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: something about being in an environment then sends a signal 72 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 4: to the children of the community. 73 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 6: And I do believe that's how I think about it. 74 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 4: Children are the children of the community, sending them signals 75 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: that lets them know how special they are. And that's 76 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 4: the environment I grew up, and I grew up as 77 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 4: a child in a stroller. My parents were active in 78 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 4: the civil rights movement, so you know, all the adults 79 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 4: around me were spending full time marching and shouting for 80 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 4: justice for equality. 81 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 6: And you know that influenced me in. 82 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: Just very substantial ways about also, not only just intellectually 83 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 4: and academically, and then later in my life as I 84 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 4: went to law school understanding of the law, but from 85 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 4: the very earliest years of my life, I understood there 86 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 4: is an emotion that one has or should have about 87 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 4: fairness or unfairness, justice or injustice. 88 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 6: And. 89 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 4: For whatever strength or weakness it is, for me, it 90 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: remains an issue, which is I feel something, and I 91 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 4: feel strongly, especially when I witness or see an injustice 92 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 4: or unfairness. 93 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: I think that that points to something that feels so 94 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: desparate in our modern moment. There are people who see 95 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: an injustice and want to respond in defense of others, 96 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: and there are people who see injustice and relish in 97 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: witnessing cruelty. 98 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 7: And. 99 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 4: Or who witness it and either it instills in them 100 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 4: some fear that maybe if they do anything about it, 101 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 4: then it will turn on them, and or they decide 102 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 4: I better walk away from it because I don't want 103 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 4: it to affect me. And I feel very strongly that 104 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 4: an injustice obviously against any of us, as an injustice 105 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 4: against all of us, but probably even more importantly, that 106 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: nobody should be made to fight alone. Nobody should be 107 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: made to fight alone. I mean, when I was growing up, 108 00:07:54,480 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 4: you know, in factories, well, thank you. One of the 109 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 4: first fights I got in was in kindergarten because my 110 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: best friend in kindergarten, who was still one of my 111 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: best friends, Stacy Johnson. I talked about her in the book. 112 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 4: Actually her mom came to the convention with her. Stacy 113 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 4: had a lisp when we were growing up, and this 114 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 4: kid was picking on Stacy and I told him stop 115 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 4: picking on her, and then he and I got into 116 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 4: a fight. But the point being that, you know, it's 117 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 4: just I guess for me, instinctive that you step in 118 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 4: and don't just let it happen if there's something you 119 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 4: can do about it. 120 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: I like that story. I got my first playground fight 121 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: in second grade, all right, Yeah, I definitely got called 122 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: to the principal's office because I'd seen every nineties comedy 123 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: ever and you know, a swift kick, and it didn't 124 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: go well for my opponent. But hey, look at us 125 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: people now. On that sort of humorous note, there's a 126 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: really funny moment in your book that feels apropos for Toronto. Keagan. 127 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: Michael Key says that the choice between you and your 128 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: opponent in the twenty twenty four election was like a 129 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: choice of how to get from Canada to the United States. 130 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: He said, and I quote, you can take the train 131 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: to get over the border, or you can take a 132 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: barrel over Niagara Falls. Feels unfortunately like we all wound 133 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: up in that barrel together, but knowing how crazy it was. 134 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: And I don't just mean running against that man whose 135 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: name I'm going to try not to say. 136 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 6: That's just for me. Y'all can do whatever you want 137 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 6: to do. 138 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't have to be as classy as her. I 139 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: wasn't the vice president. I can be petty. The stunning 140 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: vision that you've given us of not only what it 141 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: was like to run that race, but to run that 142 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: race in a way that I think maybe didn't Dawn 143 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: on a lot of people around the world. At the time, 144 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: you were our active vice president, you were running a 145 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: presidential campaign, and you were preparing for a would be transition. 146 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: So like memos, plans, appointing staff, I mean, you were 147 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: doing three of the hardest jobs in the world, all 148 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: at the same time, and in a pair of stilettos. 149 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: To be clear, the ladies know our converse, yeah, with 150 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: pearls though, always the Chucks and the pearls together. You 151 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: you write in this book about that crazy kind of 152 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: roller coaster that you were on, and you also talk 153 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: about as a planner, some things went exactly according to 154 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: plan and some didn't. And I'm curious for our friends 155 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: with us today when you think about what's encapsulated in 156 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: this book, can you share a memory that comes to mind, 157 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: good or bad, but still makes your heart race when 158 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: you think about it, either something that went well or 159 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 1: something that really did not go according to the schedule. 160 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 4: So there are many reasons I wrote the book, and 161 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: one is it is unprecedented, those one hundred and seven days. 162 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 4: So we had a sitting president running for reelection who 163 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: three and a half months before the election decided not 164 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 4: to run. So the sitting vice president. I stepped in 165 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 4: to run against a former president who had been running 166 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 4: for ten years, with one hundred and seven days to go, 167 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 4: And it turns out it was the closest presidential election 168 00:11:54,760 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 4: in the United States in the twenty first century. And 169 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 4: I will add then, in particular for my Canadian friends 170 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 4: and many of you know, I went to school in Montreal. 171 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 4: My mother did her work at McGill and did the 172 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 4: research at the Jewish General Hospital. My aunt, my Chinny Titty, 173 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: is here, who lives in Mississauga. 174 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 6: Where are you, Titty? I don't know where she is. 175 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 6: She's here. 176 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 4: So I care deeply about this relationship between the United 177 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 4: States and Canada. But I mentioned also the historic nature 178 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: of the race to also point out something that I 179 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 4: think is important we all. 180 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 6: Hold on to. Right now. 181 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 4: One third of the US electorate voted for him, one 182 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 4: third voted for me, and one third did not vote. 183 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 4: And I mentioned that because I know that within the 184 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 4: United States and among our friends outside of the United States, 185 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 4: there has been this ongoing concern about what does this 186 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 4: mean in terms of who is America? Please remember two 187 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 4: thirds of the electorate did not vote for him. Now, 188 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 4: but in terms of the work that we have to do. 189 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 4: It also should be a point of emphasis to ask 190 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 4: and think about why one third did not vote, And 191 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: that is part of the work that I am thinking 192 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 4: about and doing as we go forward. But writing the 193 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 4: book was about ensuring that one that we would acknowledge 194 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 4: the unprecedented nature of it. But equally important, it is 195 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 4: part of America's history. Those one hundred and seven days 196 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: it has bitten written about, it will be written about. 197 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 4: And I wasn't about to have history talk about it 198 00:13:52,520 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 4: without my voice being present. And I wrote the book 199 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 4: to the point of your question in a way for 200 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: those of you who haven't yet read it, I wrote. 201 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 6: It like a journal. 202 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 4: So the first chapter is that first day that I 203 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 4: got the call from President Joe Biden that he was 204 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 4: stepping out, July twenty. 205 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 6: First of last year. 206 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 4: And I write each chapter is a different day in 207 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 4: the race. And I invite you, to the extent that 208 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: you keep a journal of any sort as you're reading it, 209 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 4: to also think about what you were doing on that 210 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 4: day and the alignment of. 211 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 6: What we were all doing around that time. You know, 212 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 6: one of. 213 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 4: I'll tell you the and there were you know, there 214 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 4: were incredible moments, but I tend to be very task oriented, 215 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 4: and so during those one hundred and seven days, I 216 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 4: never really allowed myself a moment to reflect on any 217 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 4: particular day. My prayer every night was God, I hope 218 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 4: I have done everything I could possibly do with this day, 219 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 4: because I knew we had such a short period of time, 220 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 4: and it was only in the writing of the book 221 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 4: that I was able to really reflect on what it 222 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: felt like each of those days. But one of my 223 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 4: favorite memories that I think speaks volumes to the first 224 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:26,359 Speaker 4: point that you raised. I would do rallies with thousands 225 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: of people showing up and without seats, so people are standing, 226 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 4: and at the end of speaking on the stage, I'd 227 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 4: get off the stage and walk into the crowd and 228 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 4: there would be a ropeline, and I'd interact with folks, 229 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 4: often hugging. 230 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 6: Many people would cry. 231 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: We would talk, take pictures, selfies, and it was not 232 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 4: uncommon that maybe a parent ten rows back who had 233 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 4: their child on their shoulder would lift the child off 234 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 4: their shoulder because the child wanted to come and they 235 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: wanted me to take a picture, and the crowd. 236 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: Would pass the baby. 237 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: All the way down, and then I take the baby 238 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: and we take a picture, and then the crowd would 239 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: pass the baby and it was. 240 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 4: The most wonderful, wonderful thing about just community, perfect strangers 241 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 4: to each other. And you know, there were so many 242 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 4: moments like that, and in the midst of the darkness 243 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: that we are all witnessing about to your point twenty 244 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 4: twenty five, I hope in the reading of the book 245 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 4: and in the reflection, we will remember the light that 246 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: we brought in those one hundred and seven days, because 247 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 4: it was in us and it is still in us. 248 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 4: And I am a firm believer, and I almost admonish people, 249 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 4: you cannot let any election or individual or circumstance extinguish 250 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 4: your light or diminish your light. It is in us, 251 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 4: and it is in each other, and we have to 252 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 4: see it in each other, and in particular in moments 253 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 4: of darkness, that is when that light is most important. 254 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 4: Because the fight, back to the point, the fight is 255 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 4: for something. 256 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 7: Yeah. 257 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: The fight from my perspective, is born out of a 258 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 4: belief in what is possible. It is born out of 259 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 4: a sense of optimism about what we can do, what 260 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: can be, and that. 261 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 6: Is what fuels then the fight. 262 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 7: It is for something, yeah, And now a word from 263 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 7: our sponsors that I really enjoy and I think you 264 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 7: will too. 265 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: Will you talk in the book about how this is 266 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: not a genteel profession. 267 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 6: Oh, it's a bloody knuckle sport. 268 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: You gotta be ready to brawl, you said, And I 269 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: think about there was a you know, there was like 270 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: a little not a poem, like a little instagram, you know, 271 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: screenshot of text that went around after the election talking 272 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: about how Hope isn't a pretty little thing. Hope is 273 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: bruised and she's got a tooth missing, and she got 274 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: blood poorn out of her face, and she's getting up 275 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: to keep fighting. And I think you've managed to give 276 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: us a reminder that no matter how hard it gets, 277 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: we have to keep fighting, and that there's joy in 278 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: the fight, and that there's integrity in the fight, and 279 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: that no matter who might be in charge today, good 280 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: people who come together can always do more good than 281 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: one bad person that wants to harm. And something that's 282 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: really stuck with me. 283 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 6: She's a very inspiring lady. 284 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: You know, I've been thinking about this a lot. Something 285 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: that's really stuck with me. And I don't know if 286 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: you intended it to be a metaphor. But now it's 287 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: become in all my notes, the metaphor of your table. 288 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: And you talk about how when you moved into the 289 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: Naval Observatory, which is where the vice president lives in Washington, 290 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: d C. You designed a table for the dining room 291 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: that could be this, you know, big gorgeous table for 292 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: full staff meetings or big family holiday dinners, but it 293 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: could break down into pieces and four people could sit 294 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: at a normal sized table for four, or when you're 295 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: in the process of vetting your three vice presidential candidates, 296 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: it could be small enough for just two people to 297 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: sit and have a conversation. And it was kind of 298 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: like an itch I couldn't scratch on the inside of 299 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: my brain. I couldn't figure out why it moved me. 300 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: So to hear you talk about that, and I realized 301 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: it's the metaphor of who you've always been as a politician, 302 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: which is you don't expect people to come to you. 303 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: You go to where your voters are. You show up 304 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: to talk to people who agree with you and people 305 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: who don't. You promised that had you won, you'd have 306 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: been a president for people who voted for you and 307 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: for people who didn't. And you, as the vice President 308 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: of the United States, thought it might be intimidating for 309 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: somebody to sit at a giant table just with me. 310 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: So let me make sure that in this residence we 311 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: can just sit one on one. And I don't know 312 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: that there's anybody else like you who's held your office, 313 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: and I just want to make sure you get your 314 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: flowers for that. 315 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you. 316 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: It makes me right. 317 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 6: Well, there hasn't been an anyone like me. 318 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: Oh you mean that obvious fact or seven. 319 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 6: But it's listen there. 320 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 4: It's a great privilege to lead, and with it comes 321 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: not just I think, not just a responsibility, but a duty. 322 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 4: And I was raised that way to think of the 323 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 4: work I do, not out of you know, when you 324 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 4: are helping someone, it's not about charity. Oh, if I 325 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 4: have a little extra I will give. Oh, look at 326 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 4: benevolent me. It's about a duty, yeah, and it's not negotiable. 327 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 4: I was raised with a sense of understanding that we 328 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 4: each have a responsibility to serve. 329 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 6: No matter your profession. 330 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 4: And often in the campaign I would talk about what 331 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 4: inherently was I think a great difference of perspective on 332 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 4: this point between us and my opponent, and it is this. 333 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 4: There is some perversion coming from that camp, well a lot, 334 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 4: But that suggests hello, that suggests that the measure of 335 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 4: strength is based on who you beat down. 336 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 6: Instead of what we know to be the. 337 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 4: Real measure of strength, which is who you lift up. 338 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 6: You know, I mentor. 339 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 4: I mentor a lot of people, and even the youngest 340 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 4: of them. And I'll say, if you want to really 341 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 4: see your muscle, And it's an extraordinary thing that we 342 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 4: all know in our lives, one seemingly small thing that 343 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 4: you do that helps someone else difference it can make 344 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 4: in their life. And if at moments in time we're 345 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 4: wondering what is our strength, those acts that are what 346 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 4: I believe is the act of a duty that we 347 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 4: have to each other, reinforces the strength of the individual 348 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 4: in the context of a community. You know, in this moment, 349 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 4: I also believe that there is so much about what 350 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 4: is coming from that side that is about an intent 351 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 4: to spew hate and division, with an intention to make 352 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 4: people feel alone. And there can be nothing as disempowering 353 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 4: as feeling alone. And if you compound that with the 354 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 4: feeling anyone naturally has when you are witnessing the injustice 355 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: that we are seeing. It has and can have an 356 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 4: effect intended I believe sometimes it to be to just 357 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 4: create despare and despondency. What does it matter? What is 358 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 4: my power? What can I really do? Pull the covers over, 359 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 4: wake me up when it's over. And it's important for 360 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 4: us to be clear eyed and intentional in these moments 361 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: that that is what we are experiencing. That may be 362 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 4: an intended effect from that bullying, from that attempt to 363 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 4: beat down, whether it be norms and rules, or relationships 364 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 4: or values or principles. And it is at those very 365 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 4: moments that we need to say, I know what you're 366 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 4: up to, and I'm not going to let you get 367 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 4: away with it. 368 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 6: I'm not alone. 369 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 4: We exist in the context of a community in which 370 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 4: we see and know and care about each other. 371 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 6: We exist with the philosophy that nobody. 372 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 4: Should be made to fight alone, and that will be 373 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: evidence of our strength. 374 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: It's got to be community over everything. You know, we 375 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: only exist on this planet in a community project when 376 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 1: people do that whole like at least this happens, you know, 377 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: with your downstairs rowdy neighbors. Apologies for us sometimes to 378 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: our Canadian friends, you'll hear this adage in America, people 379 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: will say, Oh, well, I don't want to pay taxes 380 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: for that, or I don't want to pay taxes for this, 381 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: And I'm like, you don't want to contribute to people's 382 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: kids having lunch in school, Like you don't want to 383 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: contribute to your community. I don't get it. And I 384 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: so deeply admire and respect that. That's always the point 385 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: you come back to, you remind us that this earth 386 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: is a group project. 387 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 4: I think it's important to understand the generosity of individuals, 388 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 4: which I do believe most individuals have, you know. 389 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 6: I part of what I write about is it has. 390 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: Been my life experience that it is often the people 391 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 4: who have the least who give the most. So let's 392 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: not conflate that with certain individuals who are in power, 393 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 4: who have a desire and an intent to covet their 394 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 4: power and grow their individual power at the expense of others, 395 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 4: and who will, in so doing push this their children here, 396 00:26:52,480 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 4: who will gaslight really and suggest that you have less 397 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 4: because people who have even less than you. 398 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 6: This is the garbage they're pushing. 399 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 4: The garbage they're pushing is to say that you have 400 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 4: less because of the power less as a way to 401 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 4: distract from the actions of the powerful, and we have 402 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 4: to see that as it's happening and decipher what is happening. 403 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 4: And that's part of what's at play right now and 404 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 4: the stuff they're trying to push thinking that people are 405 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 4: not smarter than to see what's really happening. And I 406 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 4: would ask everyone to really take a moment to know 407 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 4: and think about the elections that just happened a couple 408 00:27:53,280 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 4: of tuesdays ago in the United States as evidence of 409 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 4: the point that the people are watching and they're not 410 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 4: going to be duped. 411 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 412 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: I think a lot of those people who googled can 413 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: I change my vote the day after the election showed 414 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: up this time, and that is important. 415 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 4: That was one of the most frequently asked questions of 416 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 4: Google the day after the election, Yeah, how can I 417 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 4: change my vote? And then my Canadian friends will appreciate 418 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 4: the other most frequently asked question, which is what is 419 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 4: a tariff? 420 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: That was special. I was just filming a movie in 421 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: Ottawa when the Ontario tariff ad dropped and I was like, 422 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm just so proud to be on Canadian soil this week. 423 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 1: I love it. Oh it was great, you know, but 424 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: I think about that. For you, it's we have to 425 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: have humor or we'll cry. I mean, I've obviously been 426 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: crying up here, but that's what I do. You have 427 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: displayed great humor and tenderness. You are on the road 428 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: again reminding everybody of the sacredness of this group project 429 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: that is democracy. I know that can't be easy, and 430 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: I also know you are a public servant. You put 431 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: the people ahead of yourself all the time because it's 432 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: who you are. On the individual side, though, I'm so curious. Yes, 433 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: the fire for us, for the people burns deep in you, 434 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: but that kind of service demands sacrifice. As you climb 435 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: the ladder of leadership, you give things up. And I'm 436 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: very curious, not just as our ag senator vice president 437 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: advocate people person performing marriages for queer people way before 438 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: anybody else in our state, thank you very much. Yeah, 439 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: but just for you, not Madam Vice President Ms Kamala Harris. 440 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: What as a person did you have to let go 441 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: of in order to serve? And what as the woman 442 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: you are did you refuse to surrender? 443 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 6: No matter what, none of us have achieved, any. 444 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 4: Success that we've achieved without the support of others. I've 445 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 4: had people in my life who have, and I hope 446 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 4: and want this for any and everyone you know. I 447 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 4: will say, make sure that especially when you're going through 448 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 4: something where you're in a competition, you're up for something. 449 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 6: You have ambition. 450 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 4: By the way, have ambition, I applaud that, but try 451 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 4: to have in your life that be intentional about maybe 452 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 4: that small group within the group of people you know, 453 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 4: who will be the ones who have some sense of 454 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 4: what you're going through and are the ones that you 455 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 4: can call late at night and laugh about the thing 456 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 4: you're not supposed to laugh about, or say the words 457 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 4: you may not say in the place where you pray, 458 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 4: or who will be with you and when you trip, 459 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 4: they will laugh at you, and then they will pick 460 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 4: you up and they will push you back out. It 461 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 4: is part of my success is because I've had those 462 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 4: people in my life, including my family. 463 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 6: Again, my aunt is here. 464 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 4: I had an extraordinary mother, her elder sister, my husband Dougie, 465 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 4: who sends his. 466 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 6: Love to everybody. 467 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: And it is they who have supported me in extraordinary ways. 468 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 6: And it is they who have sacrificed. 469 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 4: When I was in the United States Senate and I 470 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 4: was elected to the United States Senate the same night 471 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 4: that Trump was elected the first time, and it was 472 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 4: a very obviously bittersweet personal experience because I thought we 473 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 4: were going to have our first woman president that night, 474 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 4: and so I went to the Senate with a completely 475 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 4: different agenda than I thought i'd have, And I served 476 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 4: on the Senate Judicial Committee and ended up cross examining 477 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 4: a lot of. 478 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 6: People and. 479 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 4: Including people who now serve on the United States Supreme Court. 480 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 4: And one of those hearings was happening and I had 481 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 4: to be there, which meant that I missed. 482 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 6: Our daughter's high school graduation. 483 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 4: And it pained me to the point I was I 484 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 4: but if I hadn't been there, it was it literally 485 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: would have affected the outcome of the hearing. And I 486 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 4: could go on and on about examples. I mean, my 487 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 4: aunt is always saying, when you coming to Toronto. 488 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 6: I'm here, Chitty, I'm here right now. She made it, 489 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 6: We got her here. 490 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 4: You know. But so there are sacrifices that we all make, 491 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 4: right and I've made many, but my family and my 492 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 4: friends have made those sacrifices with me. But you know, 493 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 4: it's also about having moments where we can be together 494 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 4: in celebration of the victories, whether it be the work 495 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 4: that we have done that has been about you know, 496 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 4: one of my areas of focus maternal mortality and extending 497 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 4: benefits for postpartum care for women. 498 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 6: I could go on and on. 499 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 4: This is not a campaign event to give you on. 500 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 6: My accomplishments, but. 501 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 4: There are those high points where the work and the 502 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 4: sacrifice is completely diminished as compared to the impact. 503 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: And now a word from our wonderful sponsors. It strikes 504 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: me that you always carry your people into rooms with you. 505 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: You know, you talk about your aunt who's here. You 506 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: talk about all of your family so beautifully. You write 507 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: in the book about your mother. Yeah, and she appears 508 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: over and over again in your story as both a 509 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 1: compass and an anchor. And I'm curious, in the moments 510 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: of the most intense political pressure, be it grilling that 511 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: Supreme co or a candidate. Thank you for that. I 512 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: was screaming at the TV at home when that happened. 513 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: No shock to anyone who knows me. You know you 514 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: you stand up for people, and I have a hunch 515 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: that it's because you see the faces of the people 516 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: you love in every room. You're advocating in and I'm curious, 517 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: in moments like that, when things are so intense, or 518 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: in moments like you describe in the book, are there 519 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: faces or voices that always rise above the noise for you? 520 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 4: Certainly my mother is one of them. My baby nieces 521 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,479 Speaker 4: are also those voices. I write in the book. In fact, 522 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 4: they appear in the very first chapter because we were 523 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 4: we just had pancakes and bacon and sausages, and I 524 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 4: was in my sweats and I hadn't showered when I 525 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 4: got the news that I was going to be running 526 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 4: for president in the United States. 527 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 6: If my memory serves me, craigly, you were. 528 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: On the floor. 529 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 4: We were cross legged on the floor doing a puzzle, 530 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 4: which is the best thing to do with me, your 531 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 4: very young children for hours at a time and get 532 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 4: everyone engage. Yeah, that's where we were at. So their voices, 533 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 4: you know, my mother's voice. I hear my mother's voice 534 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 4: a lot. You know, when I ran for Attorney general. 535 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 4: It was when my mother, as it turned out, was 536 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 4: dying of cancer, and I took care of her and I, 537 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 4: you know, as any of you have sadly experienced, we 538 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 4: were back and forth to the hospital a lot. 539 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 6: And there was one day we were at the hospital. 540 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 4: She was in the bed, she was exhausted, and I 541 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 4: was sitting next to her on a chair and she 542 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 4: was on the bed and she was looking in that 543 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 4: direction and I was here, and she said she was 544 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 4: very tired, and she said, how's the race for Attorney 545 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 4: General coming? And I looked at her and I said, well, mommy, 546 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 4: they said they're going to kick my ano. And my 547 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 4: mother turned around and looked at me and smiled. 548 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 6: Because she knew what they were in for. In that 549 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 6: smile was a Darren and that was that smile. That 550 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 6: smile was brand on, you know. But you know, like I. 551 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 4: Said about like that that group of people that you 552 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 4: should have with you. So in the beginning, I thought 553 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 4: one of those people in that group should be my mother. 554 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 4: And then I realized that was a huge mistake because 555 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 4: she just wanted to kick everybody's ass, and so I'd 556 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 4: have to spend full time talking her in town. And 557 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 4: so I realized, yet, no, Mommy cannot be a part 558 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 4: of that group because it would be disastrous for other people. Yes, 559 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 4: I know those are the voices and again and that 560 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 4: I think it's just very intentional in life, and I've 561 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 4: learned this through all that I've experienced in terms of 562 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 4: highs and lows, to try as much as possible and 563 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 4: be intentional about who's in your life and to the 564 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 4: extent that we have the luxury or ability to make 565 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 4: choices about who is in that closest circle, and that 566 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 4: makes life better. 567 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 6: I think when we do that. 568 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: You watched your mom March for Justice, organize help to 569 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: isolate the progesterone gene that absolutely changed breast oncology eventually 570 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: suffer from cancer herself. It's such a beautiful American dream 571 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: story and a really crushing reminder that no matter how 572 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: you live, or where you live, or what you do, 573 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: you can't avoid you know, illness life. The things you 574 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 1: advocate as a leader to help people through, to open 575 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: more access, to open more pathways to care. And you 576 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: wrote in your book talking about her legacy, how special 577 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: it was close to the end of the run, that 578 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 1: it happened to be Pink Sunday, a day of prayer 579 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: for breast cancer sufferers and keep it lost in October, 580 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: and how that fell on your birthday and you got 581 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: to be with all of these people and be reminded 582 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: of you know unity you write about the parable of 583 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: Isaiah to be encouraged not to otherwise, not to see 584 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 1: a stranger but a neighbor. Can you share a little 585 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: bit about that moment. It's such a personal one in 586 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: such a national time. But I I'm so struck by 587 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: the way you were able to be covered in a 588 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: day that was hard to miss her and in a 589 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: big day in your own life. 590 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 4: That day was so it was days before the election. 591 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 4: So my birthday is October twentieth. The election was on November. 592 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 1: Would be belated birthday President. 593 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 6: Okay, that's not my point, but thank you, thank you. 594 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 6: I had to do it, and. 595 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 4: I was, of course campaigning, and it was in October 596 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 4: is always in the state's breast cancer Awareness month, and 597 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 4: that particular Sunday obviously happened to follow my birthday, and 598 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 4: it was a special day because the congregation, in particular 599 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 4: all the women were in pink to commemorate breast cancer 600 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 4: awareness and my mother really did and I learned it 601 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 4: again at a young agent's part of the fight that 602 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 4: I've always been engaged in is to fight for the 603 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 4: dignity of women in the healthcare system. And that was 604 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 4: the day that in particular that close to the election 605 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 4: was a reinforcement of why we're in the fight, because 606 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 4: still there is so much work we have to do, 607 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 4: certainly in the States on the issue of women's health 608 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 4: and reproductive health and the dignity that women deserve in 609 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 4: the healthcare system. We still have one of the highest 610 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 4: maternal mortality rates of any so called wealthy country in 611 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 4: the world. 612 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 6: We still have globally, so much. 613 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 4: Work to do that is about increasing funding and resources 614 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 4: that go into scientific research around the health issues that 615 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:24,919 Speaker 4: specifically impact women's bodies. And it is part of my fight. 616 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 4: It is always going to be part of my fight again, 617 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 4: you know. I think what's interesting also in terms of 618 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 4: what you've been witnessing recently is people ask, what are 619 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 4: some of the biggest differences between Republicans in terms of 620 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 4: the elected party representatives and Democrats in elected office, And 621 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 4: probably one of the biggest differences in the United States 622 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 4: is the fight and who's waging the fight for affordable 623 00:42:55,080 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 4: health care. And again, it really does come down to 624 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 4: as much as anything, Yes, equality and fairness and justice, 625 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 4: but also dignity and undercurrent for me and most of 626 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 4: my work has been just that point, which is the 627 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 4: dignity to which everyone is entitled, but if you look 628 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 4: at certain disparities and systems, you will do not receive. 629 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,439 Speaker 6: And that is the point. 630 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 4: When we talk about equity, when we talk about diversity, 631 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 4: when we talk about inclusion, these issues fundamentally are also 632 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 4: about dignity and recognizing the dignity in each other. And 633 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 4: so that day represented one of those days, and there 634 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 4: are many days like that. 635 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,399 Speaker 1: It's really beautiful. It's a passage that reads in such 636 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: a moving way in the book because it feels like 637 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: you just got some sort of like sign, you know, 638 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 1: some really special moment from her, and to your larger 639 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 1: point about how she inspired you to look at the 640 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 1: standing of women in the world, the way we are treated, 641 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: the way we are often held back, and arenas like healthcare. 642 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: You know, the book touches on being underestimated. There are 643 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: passages that I read along with photographs and to girlfriends 644 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: who were like you tell them, you know, talking about 645 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: how we've got to work twice as hard to get 646 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: to the same starting line. And you had a great 647 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: conversation about this with Cardi b. I was obsessed. You've 648 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: really taken it into every arena and I'm curious where 649 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: you felt like for you, as this candidate who had 650 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: to do so much catching up in just that three 651 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: and a half months. You spoke of is there a 652 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: point on the trail when you felt like that shifted 653 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: or do you feel like it was close to shifting 654 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: and you just needed a little more time. 655 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 4: There's no question we needed more time. But the momentum 656 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 4: was absolutely on our side. 657 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 6: And. 658 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 4: The you know, as you s mentioned earlier, Sophia, there 659 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 4: was there was an enthusiasm about what is possible? Dare 660 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 4: I say joy? 661 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,280 Speaker 6: And it continued to grow. 662 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 4: And again one of my great experiences in those hundred 663 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 4: and seven days was as the room would grow larger 664 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 4: and larger, you would see that people who seemingly had 665 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:50,280 Speaker 4: nothing in common knew they had everything in common. But 666 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 4: what we needed more time. I mean, running for president 667 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 4: of the United States means you have to earn the vote, 668 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 4: and I was keenly and fully aware of that. You 669 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 4: can't assume that anyone is going to vote for you. 670 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 4: You got to arm the vote. And that was. As 671 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,760 Speaker 4: you read the book, you will see perhaps the tension 672 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 4: in the short time we had to talk with as 673 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 4: many people as possible, you know, marketing people will say 674 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 4: that someone needs to hear the same message three times 675 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 4: before they actually absorb it. So that's about repetition. The 676 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 4: campaign in the one hundred and seven days, although obviously national, 677 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 4: really focused on seven states, the swing states, and it 678 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 4: was about going back to those states as frequently as possible, 679 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 4: while not neglecting other states, but knowing that this is 680 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:59,240 Speaker 4: where the decision would be made. And so the task 681 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 4: at hand was to be present. It was to give 682 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:11,280 Speaker 4: people understanding of my background and my accomplishments. 683 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 6: You know. 684 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 4: One of the things that I enjoyed. You've asked a 685 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 4: lot of questions about just what the personal experiences brought 686 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 4: to bear on the campaign. It includes during the convention, 687 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 4: the Democratic Convention, I gave a speech that I took 688 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 4: a lot of time thinking about and preparing. That was 689 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 4: what I knew would be an introduction or reintroduction, and 690 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 4: part of what I talked about there, you'll appreciate this 691 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 4: is that I have a family by blood and a 692 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 4: family by love, and. 693 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,760 Speaker 6: They are both family. 694 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 4: I talked, yes, you know, but explaining that my sister 695 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 4: and I would would ride around the neighborhood on our 696 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 4: banana seat bikes, anybody remember those exactly. I talked about 697 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 4: my best friend from high school, Wanda, who is here 698 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,320 Speaker 4: and she and I were in high school together in Montreal. 699 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 4: I talked about who I am as a person in 700 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 4: my life experiences, including my priorities, which included, for example, 701 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 4: that as president of the United States, I intended to 702 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 4: honor our relationships with our allies and understand the importance 703 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 4: of the interconnection and interdependence, and the importance of honoring 704 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,839 Speaker 4: the relationship and its history. But I needed to do 705 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 4: that as much as possible to let the people who 706 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 4: were going to invest their time in thought about who would. 707 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 6: Be their next president. 708 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 4: In knowing who I am, there was the work to 709 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 4: do about introducing policy. You know, one of the things 710 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 4: I write about in the book is that I had 711 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 4: my focus on policy really was about something I think 712 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 4: Democrats have got to do better, which is focusing on 713 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 4: the here and now issues. You know, our administration did 714 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 4: extraordinary work, including honoring the relationships. But if I had 715 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 4: to do it differently, I would have delayed the infrastructure 716 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 4: bill that we did and the CHIPSAC bill that we 717 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 4: did that was about obviously upgrading the America's infrastructure and 718 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 4: investing in chips, and I would have first done the 719 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:48,760 Speaker 4: affordable childcare, extending the child tax credit and pay leave 720 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 4: as the first thing that we would have done as 721 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 4: an administration to address the here and now issues in 722 00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 4: my campaign. That is why as my priority policy were 723 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 4: to offer for the first time that we would give 724 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 4: a twenty five thousand dollars down payment for first time 725 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 4: home buyers. That we would take on corporate organizations that 726 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 4: were buying up properties and jacking up rents, that I 727 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:19,240 Speaker 4: would take on predatory practices that included price gouging, something 728 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 4: I dealt with when I was Attorney General. 729 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 6: These were the things that. 730 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 4: I was offering as a new policy approach to dealing 731 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 4: with everyday issues one hundred and seven days to let 732 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 4: everybody know, and it took time. One of the policies 733 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,280 Speaker 4: that I still feel so strongly about as a segue 734 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 4: on healthcare, was again, we have a very different healthcare 735 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 4: system in the United States and Canada, and the healthcare 736 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 4: system that exists now has Although we have the Affordable 737 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 4: Care Act, which was an incredible breakthrough, there's still so 738 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 4: many holes in the system, including what it means for 739 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 4: what we and I refer to as the Sandwich generation, 740 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 4: people who are raising their young children while they're taking 741 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 4: care of their senior relatives and parents. They're in the 742 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 4: Sandwich generation, and for so many who are there, it 743 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 4: is almost impossible to take care of both. So I 744 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 4: was as part of my policy and did all the 745 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 4: homework that it was absolutely something that was feasible and 746 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 4: could be done. Would have offered Medicare to cover home 747 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 4: health care for people who are in that situation so 748 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 4: they don't have to quit their job, which means paying 749 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 4: rent to be able to take care of their children, 750 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 4: take care of their elder relatives, and then be completely 751 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 4: overwhelmed and bankrupt again. To talk with the number of 752 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 4: people that needed to hear this and for them to 753 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 4: be able to hear it and know it in one 754 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 4: hundred and seven days was a huge challenge. Part of 755 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 4: the momentum that I'm referring to in terms of what 756 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,399 Speaker 4: we were building. If you track it, you can see 757 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 4: that as more people started to hear Yeah, that's that 758 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 4: I attribute to the momentum about the growth. 759 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 6: And so there you are. 760 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,239 Speaker 4: But these are the realities of running for president or 761 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 4: any office, and I don't bemoan the responsibility which is 762 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 4: that the candidate must earn the support. 763 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: And now a word from our sponsors. If you could 764 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: go back to that first day one hundred and seven 765 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 1: and rate yourself a post it note to slap on 766 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 1: your mirror, what would it say being able to look 767 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 1: back it? 768 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 6: Get more days, get more days. 769 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 1: I want that too. 770 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 4: But here's the other thing that I will mention about 771 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 4: what I write about, and a challenge that we are 772 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 4: all facing right now that I think is under estimated 773 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 4: in terms of its impact on democracy and the well 774 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 4: being and health of us as societies, and that is 775 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 4: the issue of missing disinformation. 776 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 6: It is profound and I. 777 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,800 Speaker 4: Most recently, probably in one of the most public ways, 778 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 4: have been the subject of miss and disinformation. And I 779 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,319 Speaker 4: will tell you that if we want to deconstruct the 780 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 4: concern that we have about divisions in society and challenges 781 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 4: and threats to democracy, this is one of the issues 782 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 4: that we have got to. 783 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,240 Speaker 6: Take on with force. Often. 784 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 4: I am actually suggesting to people who are having disagreements 785 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,840 Speaker 4: with people who voted differently than them in the last election, 786 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:09,439 Speaker 4: is I think we have to we have to think 787 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 4: about are we making certain assumptions and challenge those assumptions, 788 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 4: and one of them is the assumption that the person 789 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 4: who voted differently than us is working with the same 790 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:24,879 Speaker 4: information we are. Bob Bart and I purposely, by the way, 791 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:29,360 Speaker 4: said information, not fact, because two plus two equals for 792 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 4: every day of the year, but different information. And the 793 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 4: reality of it is that mis and disinformation being widely 794 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,839 Speaker 4: spread is not a new phenomena in terms of the 795 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 4: threats to a democracy. It has always existed, whether it 796 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 4: be you know, the wide dissemination of flyers and all that. 797 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 4: But what we are seeing now is that unlike before 798 00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:01,879 Speaker 4: where for it to widely, to disseminate widely, it would 799 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 4: really take nation states ability to do that, usually adversarial 800 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 4: now because of the Internet and technology which has otherwise 801 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 4: democratized voices, and there is a strength to that, but 802 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,280 Speaker 4: it is also lowered the bar of entry for those 803 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 4: who want to engage. 804 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 6: In missing disinformation. 805 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:29,360 Speaker 4: And if it's hot enough, it will attract forces that 806 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 4: allow it to grow quickly, and it is a huge 807 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 4: challenge I've been convening. First of all, I love gen Z, 808 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,879 Speaker 4: I love gen Z, I love this. 809 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,800 Speaker 6: Generation of people. Go on, just go for it. 810 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,319 Speaker 4: I'm gen Z, by the way, for anyone who does 811 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 4: not know. They are at least in the States, and 812 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure here in Canada they are demographically a 813 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 4: larger population than boomers. They are between about age thirteen 814 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 4: and twenty eight. They have only known the climate crisis. 815 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 4: They lost critical phases of their education and socialization during 816 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 4: the pandemic. It is estimated that they will, upon graduation 817 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 4: from high school or college, have in their lifetime ten 818 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:32,320 Speaker 4: to twelve jobs, whereas older generations came out of high school, 819 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 4: came out of college that one job is where they retired. 820 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 6: They are acutely aware. 821 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,720 Speaker 4: If you have anyone in your life who is college 822 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 4: age or in college, they are acutely aware that what 823 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,839 Speaker 4: they are studying now may or may not lead to 824 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 4: an employable job because of technology. And in convening them 825 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 4: as I've been, one of the things they will share 826 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 4: with me is one that they are aware of how 827 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,839 Speaker 4: they are basically a commodity in the way that technology 828 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 4: is playing around around social media. But a point that 829 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 4: they are also raising with me often is we intuitively 830 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 4: know and can decipher miss and disinformation, but where do 831 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 4: we go for accurate information? Yes, and so as we 832 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 4: move forward and certainly as I think about it. That 833 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 4: is one of the challenges we face is how do 834 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 4: we ground these discussions that are in particular, when we 835 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 4: are faced with a disagreement of at least opinion, have 836 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 4: as our entry point not the difference of opinion, but 837 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 4: a query about whether we're working with. 838 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 6: The same information, yeah. 839 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 4: As a beginning point, and then also having some idea 840 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 4: about where we are all collectively trust to be the 841 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 4: sources of accurate information. But I mention again gen Z, 842 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 4: because they're not for the most part, and I say 843 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 4: this to people of my generation. 844 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 6: They're not watching the evening news. 845 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 4: They're not and a lot of their information, for example, 846 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 4: they're getting on TikTok Instagram. 847 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 6: Right. And so, as we are thinking about the. 848 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 4: Future of democracies, the future of society, how we are 849 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 4: going to deal with what we see and feel and 850 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 4: witness to be the divisions in society, one of the 851 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 4: issues that we have to confront and really think about 852 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 4: is this issue of where and how do we share 853 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 4: accurate information. And interestingly enough, and I can tell you 854 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 4: it certainly in politics. 855 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 6: It is we know it to be true. 856 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 4: Some of the most reliable and trusted sources of information 857 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:04,720 Speaker 4: for an individual or people they know. So I offer 858 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 4: that to the friends here to reinforce don't ever underestimate 859 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:17,440 Speaker 4: your power to have conversations with the people in your life. 860 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 6: Colleagues, friends, neighbors. 861 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 4: Which are grounded and sharing information about the things you 862 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 4: know to be accurate and true with you know, and 863 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,840 Speaker 4: do that knowing that you should not assume that we're 864 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 4: all working with the same information. 865 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, figuring out how to get back to the 866 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: foundation of the house being facts and not the phrase 867 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 1: coined by you know who downstairs, because alternative facts are 868 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 1: not a thing. 869 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 6: They're all lots downstairs from you. Who are you talking 870 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 6: about I'm talking about I'm. 871 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,960 Speaker 1: Talking about America is like the crazy is your favor 872 00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:04,400 Speaker 1: sometimes to Canada, like, man, who is that person? And 873 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 1: she's like you move to the East Coast and suddenly 874 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 1: your neighbors are crazy. No, it's us, and like, you know, 875 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 1: there's facts or there's lives. Frankly, we've got to have 876 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 1: the foundation be let's meet to talk about the facts 877 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 1: and then figure out, with our differences of opinion, how 878 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 1: we're going to build the house. And I'm thrilled that 879 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 1: this is something you're focusing on it's you know, I've 880 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 1: got a thousand more cards and we're running out of time, 881 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 1: so I'm not going to be able to ask all 882 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 1: those questions. But particularly watching you move into new media 883 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 1: despite not having had all that many days. You know, 884 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 1: I say this as a person. 885 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 6: Who has a podcast. 886 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 1: Podcast equipment has gotten far too inexpensive. 887 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 6: Some people, I'm like, you shouldn't have a podcast. 888 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 1: You're literally spouting the live parts that are going to 889 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 1: get people killed. 890 01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 6: Stop it. 891 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,640 Speaker 1: So knowing that you are on the case of helping 892 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 1: us cut through some of the noise and return to 893 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 1: some truth telling thrills me. Dare I say, it makes 894 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:16,720 Speaker 1: me feel hopeful, and hope can feel in the world 895 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 1: right now, not just for us and you know, folks 896 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 1: in the United States, but I think globally, hope can 897 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 1: feel like a radical act right now. And it strikes 898 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 1: me that you are moving through your leadership clearly and 899 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 1: tactically and with hope. You're not letting go of the 900 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 1: joy that you gave to us last year. And I'm 901 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 1: curious for you when you look at the landscape of 902 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 1: your life right now and you look at what you're 903 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,640 Speaker 1: excited about, what feels like you're work in progress. 904 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 4: You know, when I look at when I look at 905 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 4: gen Z, when I look at the young people, when 906 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 4: I look at those who are young, whatever your age, 907 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 4: who we still. 908 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 6: Have a glimmer and a light. 909 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 4: And I just I've strongly believe that no election or 910 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 4: individuals should be allowed to defeat our spirit, because then 911 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 4: the bad guys are winning. 912 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 6: Right, you can't let something defeat your spirit. And I 913 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 6: feel that way. 914 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 4: I feel that you never let anyone take your power 915 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 4: from you. And there's so much worth fighting for. Look, 916 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 4: you know, for those of us who have and everyone 917 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 4: here has experienced some conflict, some form of defeat or disappointment. 918 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 4: But wherever you started your day, we're all here together 919 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 4: and that tells us something about ourselves, that it. 920 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 6: Is our nature. 921 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:15,440 Speaker 4: And I don't suggest that we should be blind to 922 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,680 Speaker 4: what's happening. I don't suggest that we should be deeply 923 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 4: troubled and angry and you know, and you know, depressed 924 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 4: and sad and all of those things. Those are good 925 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 4: emotions to have when you care. 926 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 6: It's important to care. 927 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 4: And then we got to just say, Okay, I understand 928 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 4: what's happening here. I'm going to get back out there 929 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 4: because there are going to be people there when I 930 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 4: go back out there, and we're going to need to 931 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,920 Speaker 4: see each other. I mean, I ask you just look 932 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 4: at the person next to you and say, hey, how 933 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 4: you doing. 934 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 6: Just like, look, we're all here together. Hi, we're all 935 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 6: here together right now. It's really great. You know, it's 936 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:12,960 Speaker 6: really great. We're all here together. Yeah, you know. And 937 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,280 Speaker 6: let's hold on to these feelings. 938 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,440 Speaker 4: This is who by this is who we are by nature, 939 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:25,800 Speaker 4: and we can't be defeated because there's too much worth. 940 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,479 Speaker 4: There's so much to do and so much good to do. 941 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 1: So it's refusing defeat. It's like you said, you can, 942 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,920 Speaker 1: you can concede an election, but not the fight for 943 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 1: who we. 944 01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,520 Speaker 4: Are absolutely right, And to that point, Sophia is so 945 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 4: in the rallies, I would end every rally with a 946 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 4: call and response, which is that I would say when 947 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 4: we fight, and the audience would say, we win. 948 01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:02,560 Speaker 6: Because I believe that an election night and writing. 949 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,680 Speaker 4: That chapter of the book was probably the most difficult 950 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:13,720 Speaker 4: thing I've ever done. So that night, our plan was 951 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 4: that we would have gone to the campus of my 952 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 4: alma mater, Howard University. 953 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:20,480 Speaker 6: To give a victory speech. 954 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 4: We thought we were going to win, and of course 955 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 4: that is not what happened. And so I had to 956 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,080 Speaker 4: figure out the speech I was going to give the 957 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 4: next day to all the people who came back assembled 958 01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:42,840 Speaker 4: from the night before, and I was just battling with myself. 959 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,560 Speaker 4: I have to figure out how to reconcile for the 960 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 4: people who are there and everyone who heard me and 961 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 4: believe me when I said, we fight, we win. I 962 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,240 Speaker 4: had to reconcile that, because it was not when I 963 01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 4: said that, and then given the outcome it was, it 964 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,360 Speaker 4: was not as trite as all you win some, you 965 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 4: lose some. 966 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 6: And on my. 967 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 4: Way to Howard to the university, I actually wrote into 968 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 4: my speech the thing that I believe equally to that. 969 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 4: And sometimes the fight takes a while, yep. And sometimes 970 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:28,560 Speaker 4: the fight takes a while, right, So let's understand the 971 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:29,400 Speaker 4: nature of it. 972 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,479 Speaker 6: And be up for it, and. 973 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 4: In the process have joy, have a sense of community, 974 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,440 Speaker 4: find time to laugh, find time to sing and to dance, 975 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:53,880 Speaker 4: eat good food, and fight. All these things coexist in 976 01:06:53,920 --> 01:07:00,120 Speaker 4: a beautiful way. Yeah, in a beautiful way. 977 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 1: The moral arc of the universe is long. It's long, 978 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 1: and we have to remember to stay engaged for the 979 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,720 Speaker 1: long haul. And now a word from our sponsors who 980 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:26,920 Speaker 1: make the show possible. It's a perfect segue to the 981 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,320 Speaker 1: Q and A from some of our audience. I asked 982 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:35,200 Speaker 1: for you, Sarah is asking on behalf of my twelve 983 01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,920 Speaker 1: year old nephew, Darius. What advice would you give to 984 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:43,919 Speaker 1: youth like him who want to pursue a future in politics? 985 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:44,840 Speaker 1: How do you A? 986 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:45,960 Speaker 6: Where are you? 987 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 4: Hi? 988 01:07:49,040 --> 01:08:00,320 Speaker 6: Sarah is Deriah's here? Hid by you? 989 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so glad you're here and that you guys 990 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 4: are here together. See, this is why we're excited, right, 991 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,760 Speaker 4: this is why we're excited. 992 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 6: So here is the thing, Dearias. 993 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 4: So first of all, I have to tell you that 994 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,200 Speaker 4: I'm so excited you're here, and I love seeing our 995 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,879 Speaker 4: young leaders. I believe we are all born as leaders 996 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 4: and it's just a matter of when you decide to 997 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,280 Speaker 4: turn it on. And the fact that you're here means 998 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 4: you have decided already, And that's the beginning step if 999 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,320 Speaker 4: you want to be in politics. Here's what I would 1000 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:48,040 Speaker 4: encourage you to do. Think about and talk with people 1001 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:52,439 Speaker 4: about the Ask people in your life what are the 1002 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,759 Speaker 4: things that make you afraid and what are the things 1003 01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,760 Speaker 4: that make you hopeful and then start to listen to 1004 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:05,440 Speaker 4: what they're talking about, and it may be they are 1005 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:10,719 Speaker 4: afraid about the climate crisis. And then if they talk 1006 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,479 Speaker 4: to you about that, I want you to do some 1007 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,560 Speaker 4: research to understand exactly what is the nature of the crisis. 1008 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,960 Speaker 6: You're going to find that human behavior has a lot 1009 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:26,360 Speaker 6: to do with it. Find out what people are hopeful about. 1010 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 4: Maybe it's that they're starting a family, and then you're 1011 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,559 Speaker 4: going to think about, well, what would make for a 1012 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 4: healthy family, and that could be about the education of 1013 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:41,200 Speaker 4: the children, the health care that they have, their ability 1014 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:45,519 Speaker 4: to afford a home, and listen to these things, and 1015 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,559 Speaker 4: then pay attention to what just kind of gives you 1016 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 4: a little tingle, like, oh, that's something. 1017 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,240 Speaker 6: I want to know more about. 1018 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 4: Because if you're going to decide to get in politics, 1019 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,760 Speaker 4: you have to have a purpose that is bigger than yourself, 1020 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,120 Speaker 4: and it's about figuring out how you can help people, 1021 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,960 Speaker 4: but connect it to something that gives you a sense 1022 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 4: of passion which you are ready to fight for it. 1023 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 4: You stay up at night thinking about it, And that's 1024 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:18,680 Speaker 4: how I want you to think about it. 1025 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:27,080 Speaker 6: Okay, high five, virtually, high five, virtually there we are. 1026 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,240 Speaker 1: Beautiful Alexa would like to know for those of us 1027 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,240 Speaker 1: who might never run for office but want to make 1028 01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 1: a difference where we are, what is a small action 1029 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,160 Speaker 1: you actually think is powerful? 1030 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 6: Where's Alexa? Where are you? Hi? 1031 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 4: Hi? So, first of all, I want you to never 1032 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 4: refer to yourself as doing small things. 1033 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,920 Speaker 6: Okay, just don't do that. 1034 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 4: I also like, please don't ever say sorry unless you 1035 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:00,240 Speaker 4: break something. 1036 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 6: Like you know what I mean? 1037 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,880 Speaker 4: You know, Oh, I'm sorry. I have a question. No, 1038 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 4: just asked the question. There is no small There's no 1039 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,679 Speaker 4: small thing you can do. One of the things I think, 1040 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:25,080 Speaker 4: so first of all, being involved in campaigns and policy 1041 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,880 Speaker 4: around advocacy around the policies that you care about is 1042 01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 4: very important. I think one of the things, especially now 1043 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:37,120 Speaker 4: that is incredibly important is figure out in your community 1044 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:42,240 Speaker 4: where there are nonprofits that are doing work that is 1045 01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,599 Speaker 4: the work that you care about. So many of our 1046 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 4: nonprofits are just stretched around their resources, be it the 1047 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,879 Speaker 4: people who work there or they're you know, just their funding. 1048 01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 4: And when a stranger walks in and says or calls 1049 01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,519 Speaker 4: and says or emails and says, how can I help you? 1050 01:11:58,560 --> 01:11:58,880 Speaker 3: Guys? 1051 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:00,880 Speaker 6: That's really great? 1052 01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,280 Speaker 4: And there are nonprofits that are doing a range of 1053 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:05,000 Speaker 4: good works. 1054 01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:06,719 Speaker 6: Work that would love. 1055 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,960 Speaker 4: I'm sure to hear from you to figure out how 1056 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:11,960 Speaker 4: you can contribute to what they're doing. And you know, 1057 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,360 Speaker 4: here's the great thing about politics about nonprofit work. 1058 01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,439 Speaker 6: You meet the best people. You meet the. 1059 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,960 Speaker 4: Best people when you're in those places because you just 1060 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,400 Speaker 4: it's other people who are just you know, they just 1061 01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,880 Speaker 4: they're ready to roll their sleeves up and do it. 1062 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,200 Speaker 4: And sometimes it's about baking cookies, and sometimes it's about 1063 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 4: you know, doing whatever it needs to be done around 1064 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 4: writing things, or or just out there knocking on doors. 1065 01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,639 Speaker 4: So I would encourage you to think about it that way. Okay, 1066 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,680 Speaker 4: all right, thank you. 1067 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got one more for you, And forgive me. 1068 01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't have a pronunciation guide here, so I'm going 1069 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,320 Speaker 1: to try my best. Princess, guilded. 1070 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,920 Speaker 4: Princess, Where are you? Well, there are so many here 1071 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 4: I know, but I don't know. 1072 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:04,360 Speaker 1: Where. 1073 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:10,120 Speaker 4: Oh where? It's okay, you don't out there is are 1074 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:10,599 Speaker 4: you there? 1075 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,439 Speaker 6: Yes? There? She doesn't want to stand up. 1076 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 4: Okay, there, we are going to pretend that we don't 1077 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:18,080 Speaker 4: see you, even. 1078 01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:21,160 Speaker 6: Though we do. It's okay, okay, we know your general vicinity. 1079 01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:26,160 Speaker 1: Now, given the incredible momentum the Democratic Party has built recently. 1080 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,360 Speaker 1: What guidance would you give to ensure the movement stays energized, 1081 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,599 Speaker 1: united and connected to the people it serves. 1082 01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:40,720 Speaker 4: You gotta listen. I mean, part of it is just 1083 01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:48,519 Speaker 4: that basic. You have to listen to the people. You 1084 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:52,280 Speaker 4: can't lead as a party or as an individual by 1085 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,160 Speaker 4: telling people what's in their best interest. 1086 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:55,759 Speaker 6: You have to listen. 1087 01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,679 Speaker 4: And right now, the future of the Democrat Pratic Party 1088 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,400 Speaker 4: has to also be fueled as it's been, and we've 1089 01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:09,240 Speaker 4: got great leaders around fighting. You got to be ready 1090 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,320 Speaker 4: to fight. I mean, this is a time truly to 1091 01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,680 Speaker 4: fight fire with fire. This is not a time to 1092 01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,400 Speaker 4: sit around and complain about oh, they're cheating, they are cheating, 1093 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:30,960 Speaker 4: and and so that's how I think about it. And 1094 01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,519 Speaker 4: we have to be you know, part of connected with 1095 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,519 Speaker 4: the first part about listening is you have to be 1096 01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:40,960 Speaker 4: relevant and that means being clear eyed about a moment 1097 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 4: in time and challenging assumptions and being prepared to This 1098 01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:55,400 Speaker 4: sounds so cliche, but to meet the moment. And that is, yes, 1099 01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,639 Speaker 4: about the fight, but it's also about you know, I mean, 1100 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 4: again my point, my earlier point that we've discussed about 1101 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:07,440 Speaker 4: missing disinformation, about how technology is having such an impact 1102 01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,880 Speaker 4: at such a rapid pace and what that's doing around displacement. 1103 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,679 Speaker 4: And I don't mean to say that technology is bad, 1104 01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:22,760 Speaker 4: but there are impacts that we cannot overlook when we 1105 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:27,280 Speaker 4: as a as a political party are are professing to 1106 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 4: have a vision for the future, and it also the 1107 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:39,840 Speaker 4: future of the party has to be about understanding that 1108 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:45,680 Speaker 4: we cannot have a circular firing squad and we have 1109 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:49,760 Speaker 4: to be disciplined, you know. So there is the tactical 1110 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:51,760 Speaker 4: piece of it all. You know, there's a piece of 1111 01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,840 Speaker 4: it that's about policy, there's a piece of it that's 1112 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,840 Speaker 4: about messaging, and then there is the tactical piece of it, 1113 01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:58,360 Speaker 4: and that's maybe. 1114 01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 6: Where you can put it under that cat. 1115 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,960 Speaker 4: That's about knowing how to fight, and part of it 1116 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:09,320 Speaker 4: is understanding that, given the what's at stake, this is 1117 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,960 Speaker 4: not a time to have a circular firing squad when 1118 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:18,960 Speaker 4: the stuff that we're dealing with is historic in nature 1119 01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:26,480 Speaker 4: and has the potential to end up causing an extraordinary 1120 01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:33,519 Speaker 4: amount of debris because of destructive policies. And on that 1121 01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:42,200 Speaker 4: happy note, let's see, let's not end with that, Okay. 1122 01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 6: Give me more. I didn't get to ask. Hold on, 1123 01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:47,840 Speaker 6: I'm not. 1124 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,200 Speaker 4: Sending you guys back out into that cold with this, 1125 01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:53,639 Speaker 4: but you know. 1126 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:57,759 Speaker 1: What it's all about staying engaged. And I am really curious. 1127 01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:58,200 Speaker 6: You know. 1128 01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,559 Speaker 1: Part of the way we do that, to your point, 1129 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,880 Speaker 1: is partnership. Whether it's showing up at a nonprofit, whether 1130 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,559 Speaker 1: it's encouraging people to get active early, whether it's doing 1131 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 1: something for your neighbor. And we are up we're upstairs 1132 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,120 Speaker 1: if you're picking up what I'm putting down. 1133 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:22,080 Speaker 6: With our neighbor. And I'm really. 1134 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm really curious from your vantage point. You know, there's big, 1135 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:35,519 Speaker 1: bad global forces moving. Fascism's on the rise everywhere. It's 1136 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 1: scary on the planet. 1137 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:38,679 Speaker 6: We're supposed to go to a happy place. 1138 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,720 Speaker 1: I know. I'm gonna just follow me there. I'm long 1139 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:46,599 Speaker 1: winded too, you know, but I think of not only 1140 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,880 Speaker 1: how we can show up in our communities, but how 1141 01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,720 Speaker 1: we can show up across our continent. And when you 1142 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:56,479 Speaker 1: think about the potential for allyship as you mentioned earlier, 1143 01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:02,160 Speaker 1: for partnerships between countries, hours in Canada both mine love 1144 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:06,759 Speaker 1: it for me, Like, how do you envision that kind 1145 01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:11,639 Speaker 1: of international progressive advocacy working. 1146 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,760 Speaker 6: That's great. I love how you framed it. 1147 01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:20,480 Speaker 4: This is how I think about it, the relationship between nations. 1148 01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,479 Speaker 4: I believe I, as Vice President the United States, met 1149 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:29,440 Speaker 4: over one hundred and fifty world leaders, presidents, prime ministers, chancellors, 1150 01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:35,519 Speaker 4: and kings, and have traveled the world. As you can imagine, 1151 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,559 Speaker 4: I am convinced that the strength of the relationship between 1152 01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:45,479 Speaker 4: nations is completely and almost entirely dependent on the strength 1153 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:51,120 Speaker 4: between the people of those nations. The people that the 1154 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:55,840 Speaker 4: relationship between Canada and the United States, and I know it, 1155 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,400 Speaker 4: it's a lived experience for me. 1156 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,480 Speaker 6: I lived in Canada. 1157 01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:07,960 Speaker 4: Is as much as anything not about the relationships between 1158 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:09,599 Speaker 4: the Prime Minister and the president. 1159 01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:10,519 Speaker 6: It's about the people. 1160 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:18,040 Speaker 4: And let's remember that, you know, let's remember that. Let's 1161 01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:24,080 Speaker 4: remember that it is about mutual respect and admiration and 1162 01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:30,439 Speaker 4: shared experiences, and especially in moments like this where to 1163 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:34,440 Speaker 4: your point, around the world, we are seeing an ascendancy 1164 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:42,160 Speaker 4: in some places of leadership that is working against that spirit. 1165 01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:45,640 Speaker 6: Let's have some faith. 1166 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:50,120 Speaker 4: In the fact that we still do have those relationships 1167 01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:54,000 Speaker 4: between the people and that that will carry us through 1168 01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:55,720 Speaker 4: a specific. 1169 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:56,960 Speaker 6: Moment of conflict or crisis. 1170 01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 4: And I certainly believe that's true as it relates to you. 1171 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:01,720 Speaker 4: I'd stay it's in Canada. 1172 01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,559 Speaker 6: Hi, Jan, That's. 1173 01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:09,320 Speaker 1: Beautiful, and I have so many more questions, but we 1174 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 1: are out of time, So if I may, I would 1175 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:18,040 Speaker 1: like to echo one last sentiment from your book. Your pastor, 1176 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,800 Speaker 1: Bishop Lea Daughtry sent you a meditation every day of 1177 01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:26,600 Speaker 1: your campaign, and this is after twenty years of your friendship. 1178 01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,200 Speaker 1: On the final days, she told you to stand, to 1179 01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,679 Speaker 1: stand in the strength that was given to you, believing 1180 01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:41,200 Speaker 1: and knowing that you've done your part. I'm gonna cry, sorry, guys, 1181 01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm fine tonight. I would really love if you would 1182 01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,720 Speaker 1: do me and everyone hear the honor of standing, so 1183 01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:52,280 Speaker 1: we can just shower you in the appreciation you deserve.