1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Cardinal Territory. I'm your host, Katie wu 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: here with a very special guest. Miles Michaelis is our 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: player interview today. We are recording on Monday, April fourteenth, 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: but you are seeing this on Wednesday, April sixteenth. Miles 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: one of my personal faves. Always great to see you. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for doing this today. 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on a little a little bit 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: of free time before I head into the field. 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: So I thought this would be this would be. 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 4: Fun, Yeah, I think so let's just go right into it. 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Your fresh off a bounce back start, five innings, three 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: year in runs, and we've talked to like all spring 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: and early season about the things that you're doing differently 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: this year in terms of sequencing and essentially sounds weird 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: not throwing as many strikes. Is that a difficult concept 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: for you to fathom at first? 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit, because you know, I grew up 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: watching baseball a certain way and like reading certain you know, 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: I had, you know, when I was in middle school, 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: in high school, I had all the pitching books, you know, 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: the Leo Mazzoni and the Noan Ryan Pitcher's Bible and 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: all those things, and even in some of those books, 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: like they talk about like those two one to two counts, 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: you know, hitters are vulnerable. Hitters are vulnerable. A lot 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: of guys are just trying to put the ball in play. 26 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: And you can throw a quality pitch fairly close or 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: in the strike zone on the edges, and you know, 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 2: I feel like. 29 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 3: The hitters approach. Guys used to not like to strike out. 30 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: So you saw a lot of like just oh, I 31 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: want to put it in play kind of some of 32 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: the two strikes, guys just trying not to strike out. 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: And if you're nibbling at the edges. 34 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 5: Of the zone and throwing strikes in those counts and 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 5: the guy hitting has that mentality, you know, you're throwing 36 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 5: quality pitches, quality strikes, and he's popping up and he's 37 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 5: grabbing out and rolling over. 38 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: But the way the game has changed, the way they 39 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: with analytics and they value guys and they value players, 40 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: guys don't have like a two. A lot of players 41 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: don't have this two strike. I don't want to strike out, 42 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: like check swing. There's a handful of guys, we know 43 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: who they are. You know, they back it up with 44 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: two strikes. You're just trying to sheet stuff, you know, 45 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: down the first baseline, stand alive waist and pitches. But 46 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: most guys are still trying to get off their a 47 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: or you know as type swings even with two strikes, 48 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: you know, trying to do damage and stuff like that. 49 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, throwing pitches that are you know, 50 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: anywhere close to the zone. 51 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: It's it's almost like not even worth it. 52 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: So so like for the philosophies and things to change 53 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: is different. It's also interesting to be around the game 54 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: long enough to see those those shifts. And you know, 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: I've you know, drafted an nine you know, minor leagues 56 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: debut in twelve, so it's been you know, thirteen years 57 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: since my big league debut and I had my little 58 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: Japanese hiatus, and this is my ninth here. 59 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: In the league. 60 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: But I can only imagine the the changes that you know, 61 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: the guys before me, like Wainwright and YACHTI saw from 62 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: you know, two thousand and six, you know to two 63 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: thousand and twenty five, how much the game change. So 64 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: it's an interesting thing to be a part of something 65 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: I kind of embrace a little bit. 66 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's a great point. I mean, it's it's 67 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: hard to stay in this league. It's hard to return 68 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: to this league after some hiatuses if you will. Yeah, 69 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: I think what what people forget is like the longevity 70 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: of this league says something about who you are as 71 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: a pitcher and what you do. And it's adaptability that 72 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: keeps you in this game. It can be really hard 73 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: to tell a picture. Hey, you need to stop throwing strikes, 74 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: which I know is not exactly crazy, but to simplify. 75 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: It, and and it's it's not to say I'm not 76 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: throwing strikes, but I would rather have swinging strikes then 77 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: because a lot of guys also aren't looking anymore. They're 78 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: not they're not you know, anything close. Let a rip 79 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: kid as opposed to this, like you know, and there's 80 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: there's older guys. There's older guys where you can throw 81 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: that like O two fastball like down and away for 82 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: the zone and they'll just get it to you. 83 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: They're like, that's not my pitch. I'll give it to you. 84 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: And but but the majority of the league is you know, 85 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: if it's close, I'm swinging. 86 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: So all you have to do is like be close. 87 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: You know, guys are on guys are on green from 88 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: from the get go. 89 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: As a majority, I think. 90 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: So, how do you incorporate what this new style? It's 91 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: not like a necessarily new style of pitch. And we 92 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: talked about this on Saturday, Like you've had swing and 93 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: missing your game before. 94 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 4: It's just finding a different way to get there. 95 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and it's it's you know, with it's 96 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: another shift in the game, right, because. 97 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: It it all works together. 98 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: Right, So if I want to throw, you know, I 99 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: want to throw seven innings. 100 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: I want to throw nine inn's. I wanna go the 101 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 3: whole game. 102 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 2: They're not gonna let me throw one hundred and twenty 103 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: pitches unless it's like a no hitter, right, They're gonna 104 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: let you get two hundred like almost wherever that is 105 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: five innings, six innings, seven innings. If you're getting past 106 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: one hundred pitches, it's like a complete game shutout. Or 107 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: you know, you're the ace, and it's the playoffs, even 108 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: the ace in the playoffs guys getting pulled after one 109 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: hundred pitches because bullpens are so stacked. I mean the 110 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: you know you've got guys coming in the sixth seventh inning, 111 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: throw ninety seven ninety eight. 112 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 3: Hundred miles an hour. On some teams and it's like, sure, I'll. 113 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: Get through five or six innings on one hundred pitches, Like, 114 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: you know, do you have to be happy with that? 115 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: Now? 116 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: I mean, when I came back in twenty eighteen, you know, 117 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: blessed with having a guy like Wano on the staff 118 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: and he's got all his one liners. You gotta go seven, 119 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,119 Speaker 2: you know, if you want the win, you gotta go seven. 120 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: Like that's the mindset. And he came up in the 121 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: early two thousands, mid mid you know, two thousand and six, seven, 122 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: eight nine, and there was that man tity like you're 123 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: going seven innings regard, and that was almost like regardless 124 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: of how many pitches you're throwing, youre going seven hundred 125 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: and hundred, ten hundred and twenty. They were just letting 126 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: dudes go. With the injuries and stuff and all the 127 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: information that they're having and the way that they're you know, 128 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: going about it with everyone you know, doing what they're doing. 129 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: You know that's changed and you just don't see it 130 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: as much. And it's you know, if I want to 131 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: throw one hundred pitches, like I sidetracked back to my 132 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: oriosal point, if I want to get seven at d's and. 133 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: I only have one hundred pitches. I have to get 134 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: some quick outs. I need contact. 135 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: And if I get a guy oh two, waste one 136 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: in the dirt, that's one two. Maybe he'll chase a 137 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: fastball up. Now it's two to two. 138 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: Now it's you know, now he's battling. I'm battling. Now 139 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: I have to finish get that. 140 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: So maybe I'm throwing something on the corners and he 141 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: fouls one or two off, and then maybe he takes 142 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: a closed pitch and all of a sudden, I went 143 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: from O two and now it's full count and I've thrown. 144 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: Seven pitches chasing a strikeout. 145 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: Now I have to throw something where he's got weak contact, 146 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: or maybe he strikes out looking finally, or or he 147 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: just he doesn't want to walk. 148 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: He wants to hit so bad. 149 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: I throw like a slaughter in the dirty, swings at it, 150 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 2: maybe they get the strikeout, maybe. 151 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: He grounds out pop up gets a hit. 152 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: But either way, I've not seven or eight pitches when 153 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: before I was like, oh two, Oh, I'll throw like 154 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: a little curveball down the way. 155 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: Maybe in the strike zone he's off balance. 156 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: Maybe I sequence it right, and here's like my chopper 157 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: to short there's an out in three pitches. 158 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: I love that. 159 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: There's a time for that, and there's a time for 160 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: not that guy on third base, guy on second base, 161 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: two outs, go for the strikeout. 162 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: Don't let him put it in play, don't let him 163 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: bloop it. 164 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: So I think there's there there is a whole nuance 165 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: to it as a whole picture, like am I chasing 166 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: strikeouts from the get go? 167 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: Yes, I'd love to strike out everyone. 168 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: Every picture would say that I'd love to strike out everybody. 169 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: But that's not always the case. 170 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: And you know, you see guys rack up pitch counts 171 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: quick now because it's six or seven pitches to everybody 172 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: and he strikes out or walks or you know, gets 173 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: to full counter to two before the guy rolls over. 174 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: Or pops up. 175 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point. 176 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: And it was like everything, it's like everything compounds and 177 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: it's where do you want to be? 178 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: I want to throw so many innings, But if I'm 179 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: giving up runs early because I'm trying to do things 180 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: on less pitches, well I'm never going to get to 181 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: the six inning. 182 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: Anyway, because I gave up a couple of runs. And 183 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: now the bullpens in the. 184 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: Game because the game's tight, it's a one run game, 185 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: as opposed to I got through five innings, great, Like, 186 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: you know, am I happy with that seven six years ago? 187 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: No, because I want to go seven. 188 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: Because everyone, you know, everyone wants to throw two hundred innings, 189 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: you know, or more like you want to be a workhorse. 190 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: But what what teams are looking for. 191 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: That's that's more rare, and that's like more you know, 192 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: more difficult than ever to to hit, you know, numbers 193 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: like that. Teams are almost really just looking for you know, 194 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 2: they would love us six or seven innings. But if 195 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: you give them five innings or six innings of you know, 196 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 2: one two, three run ball and they can get the 197 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: bullpen involved and hope the offense clicks. You know, analytics 198 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: are saying like that's great and it and you know, 199 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: maybe it comes at the expense of you know, bullpen, 200 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: like using more bullpen, you know, bullpen arms and stuff 201 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: like that. 202 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 3: But you know, the what what teams want, I think 203 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: is is even changing. 204 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 2: I think that's some of the the overall issue with 205 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: with baseball. 206 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's I think you're spot on, because 207 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: this is not like you know, when I was growing up, 208 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: if you will, in high school and watching guys Adam's 209 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: gonna hate this, And I was watching Adam Wyne right 210 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: in high school. 211 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: It was so was I in high school. 212 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: So was I. 213 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: There we go, see I'm not as bad. 214 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: It'd be seven innings, and now you're seeing more of 215 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: the five and dive is considered a good start because 216 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: there are It used to. 217 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: Be five and dive. It's not five and dive anymore. 218 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: It's like pat him on the back though. 219 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like if you went five innings with maybe 220 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: even like eight strikeouts that threw one hundred pitches. Now, 221 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: guys in the mid two thousands would have been like, man, 222 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: five innings, they said, hey, those strikeouts are great. 223 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: I like it. 224 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: I gave up to five innings. You know, it's you know, 225 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: you give your team a chance, is your starting pitcher, 226 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 2: keep your team in the game as long as you can, 227 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: and ideally save the bullpen from getting you know it 228 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: emptied out ideally, But yeah, it's things change. 229 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 4: Times are changing. 230 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: I want to get into a little bit about where 231 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: you're at physically right now, how do you feel you're pitching. 232 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: But first we got to do our first abbag of 233 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: the day. So let's hear from our friends at PHG AJ. 234 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 6: It is time for people to get some new clubs, 235 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 6: and to do that they need to go to their 236 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 6: local PXG for a fitting, right. 237 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 7: No doubt. I was there today, I've been there before. 238 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 7: Last time I was there, they gave me this killer gap. 239 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 7: You look at that sweet spot, Scott is worn out. 240 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 7: That is right in the sweet spot right there. So 241 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 7: I went and got new clubs today, new irons. But 242 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 7: more importantly, I got this bad boy. I got me 243 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 7: a new putter. This is my old putter. It's on order. Yes, 244 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 7: that's my putter cover PXG Mustang putter. Now I'm going 245 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 7: to the Allen putter. They talked me into it because 246 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 7: I was draining some putts today. Bob, the guy who 247 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 7: helped me out. He helped me with my irons. You 248 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 7: got them teed up perfectly. But then we went to 249 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 7: the putting green. I was draining them putts because that's 250 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 7: the most important part of golf. 251 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 6: PXG fittings are fun. Schedule you're fitting today, as you 252 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 6: can hear from AJ for a limited time, you could 253 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 6: save up to twenty percent on your entire order. Head 254 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 6: over to pxg dot com slash foul. That's pxg dot 255 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 6: com slash foul to save up to twenty percent on 256 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 6: your entire order. Pxg dot com slash foul restrictions apply 257 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 6: see site for details. 258 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: Perfect segue. Because you're a golf guy, but only during 259 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: the season. Correct, you don't golf in the off season? 260 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I you know, you only have I tell people 261 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: a lot. 262 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: You have time for, like one hobby in the off season, 263 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: even less than maybe a half a hobby if you 264 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: have a family in the off season. So my off 265 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: season hobby is fishing, but my end season hobby is 266 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: mostly golf because it's harder to find places to fish, 267 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: you know, when you're bouncing across the country. 268 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so who's your like go to teammate that you 269 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: play with? Do you have an ideal foursome? Like, what's 270 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: your ideal golf day on the road? 271 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: You know, ideally I like to get up early. My 272 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: most ideal golf on the road ever, has I think been? 273 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: We're playing Texas and the hotel we say it has 274 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: a golf course on premise. Yeah, so like you just 275 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 2: wake up, you know, eat breakfast and go downstairs or 276 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: even just go play around the golf at eight o'clock, 277 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: be the first one out, and I'm the first one 278 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: in at like ten thirty. And I need a late 279 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 2: breakfast and not have to go anywhere. But I like 280 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: to get up, get out early, it's not too hot, 281 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: and played a lot of golf in summer. Get it early, 282 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: it's not too hot. And you know, the the foursome 283 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: has changed over the years. From when I got here, 284 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 2: I had the pleasure of playing with guys like Adam Is, 285 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 2: a tremendous golfer, Bud Norris one of the better golfers 286 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: I've ever played with, you know, Holland Waka Long. I mean, 287 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: we had we had some good some good golf groups 288 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: in the past. 289 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: And now it's a little bit different. 290 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: There's not as many golfers, but people are willing to 291 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: go golfing. Andre Is is like learning to golf, so 292 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: he's fine golfing. He's fun to take golfing. You know, 293 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: Hellsley is getting better at golf. If it's an off day, 294 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: the position players will get involved. Not as a great golfer, Sonny. 295 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: I think of the guys I know that will beat 296 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: me on a golf course. It's probably like Sonny and Aeronauta. 297 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: Oh. 298 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 4: I was not familiar with Sonny's game. 299 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: I knew Nolan was good, sometimes good and really good golfer. 300 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: I do not notice about Sunny. 301 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 3: Sunny is a. 302 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: Really good golfer. Steven Mattz can hit the golf ball 303 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: like a country mile. He got three homers in the show. 304 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: He swings right handed. And we golf the other day 305 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: and I was like, hey, man, if if you approached 306 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: golfing like your bullpen, you know you might be He's like, 307 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: He's like, no, man, I see that bass sitting there 308 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: on the team. 309 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: I just got to smash it. I'm like, all right, 310 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: I like that. I like that style. 311 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm that way most of the time. 312 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: But if my score gets two out of hand, I 313 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: try to try to rein it in a little bit. 314 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: But we've got some good golfers. Everyone will golf a 315 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: little bit. Lars Siani, you know some other guys I 316 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: haven't golf with. Lebby said he's pretty good at golf. 317 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: I need to get him on the golf course. That 318 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: would be fun. I just being outside. You you know, 319 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: you wake up on the road. Some places are tough. 320 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: We're gonna run up in the Mets in a couple 321 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: of days. That's a tough You know, you're in the city. 322 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: If you're gonna play golf, it's like take me an. 323 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: Hour to get there. You gotta get It's tough. 324 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: You must have to if you're gonna play golf in 325 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: New York, you have to really like go out out 326 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: of Long Island and you and then just hit City 327 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: Field on your way back in and then just take 328 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: everything back with the bus at night. 329 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: Before except I left my clubs at the friend. I 330 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: went out to Saint Long Island. I'm not bringing my 331 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: clubs to the press box on the subway, Are you 332 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: kidding me? 333 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 4: It was I was linked to work. 334 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: It was fun though, Yeah, and we got yeah. 335 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: And then I think Sunny has has some really nice 336 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: golf line up for us in Atlanta, so I'm excited 337 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: about that. 338 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 339 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: It's like I said, I'd rather I'd rather be outside. 340 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: And every once in a while I'll go on like 341 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: golf now and just whatever course I can get it's close, 342 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: if it's a dog track, if it's. 343 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: Nice not nice, I don't really care. Sometimes I show 344 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: up and I have someone with me. It's just like 345 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: I got like the random Yeah, who was it? 346 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: It was like last year and it was the you know, 347 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: the like the sixty five year old guy who plays 348 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: the course like every Wednesday for like the last twenty years, 349 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: and he's got the first tea time out and he 350 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: goes off by himself. But I signed up for too 351 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: because I'm trying to get and just golf with random guy. 352 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: It's nice. I met him, Muso. He was a pretty 353 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: nice guy. 354 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 4: That's how you make friends. 355 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: You'll have to you have to update me on how 356 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: the golf in Atlanta does. I don't know if you've 357 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: ever played golf with Pedro. He's been a victim on 358 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: the show in Good Golfer, but no one posts good shots. 359 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: I think he's sandbagged me once, like the first time. 360 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I'm not good at golf, Like I'm 361 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: not really that good. And he had his first ball 362 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: like right down the mill and I was like, you lie, 363 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: people lying snake. 364 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: Well there There's been a lot of a lot of 365 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: posts on Instagram on Twitter of all of his bad shots, 366 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: and he is he's he said it does. 367 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 4: He doesn't think it's very fair because no one. 368 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: Ever posts the good shots. But I don't know I 369 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: get to one, but apparently. 370 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, no one posts a picture of a minnow. It's 371 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: always a guy with the marlin, right. 372 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 4: That's right, myles, Where do you think you're at right now? 373 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I know twenty three and twenty four did 374 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: not go the way you wanted, both from a team 375 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: performance and a personal performance. 376 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll call that Boston start out the window. 377 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: But I really thought on Saturday there were some a 378 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: lot of good things to look forward or just to 379 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: spin off of, especially coming after that first inning. 380 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know, it's always nice to see 381 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: like weird swing when you throw some pitches, like guys 382 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: like the weird check swings or you know, guys not 383 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 2: seeing it. 384 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 3: I think maybe I was hiding. 385 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: The ball better the other day, you know, staying closed 386 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: a little bit longer. 387 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 3: But you know, my you know, physically, my. 388 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: Body everything, everything feels great, which is one of those 389 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: things like you know, you do you want to like 390 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: be pitching great, but like maybe like you don't feel good, 391 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: like your body heard you're like pitching through things, but 392 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: pitching the good or you know, I had a rough one, 393 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: but other than that, I feel good about my stuff. 394 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: I like my stuff and like fish, I feel really good. 395 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 2: So I know that, you know, things will only tread 396 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 2: in the right direction, Like I'm not battling anything. 397 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: I'm not really battling any. 398 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: Like unnormal soreness as far as like throwing or baseball goes. 399 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: So I know that just as the season progresses, and 400 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: you know, there's like a running joke, my my best 401 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: fastballs will come in August. 402 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, you can actually go. 403 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: I've actually I've looked, because you know, every year you 404 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 2: show up the spring training, you're like, damn, I swear 405 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: at the end of last year, I was thrown like 406 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: ninety five ninety six. Every once in a while, I 407 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: could really reach back, and like you're reaching back early 408 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: in the season, you're like, dang, I really wish it 409 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: was there. 410 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: You're getting older, You're always thinking like, did I lose it? 411 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: Is this? It is this the year that I just 412 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 3: don't have any. 413 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: Extra heat in the back pocket. And then I went 414 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 2: on and looked, and it's like, you know, there's this 415 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: graph of like your fastball and my best ones are 416 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: always like July, August and even September some years. 417 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, you know, I'm like, uh, like. 418 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 2: A sea biscuit, you know, like the second half, you know, 419 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 2: second half horse, you know, come from behind, underdog. 420 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know, but so there's like a running 421 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: joke like, oh, you know this, I just got to 422 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: get warmed up the weather. It's it's cold. The weather's 423 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 3: got a warm. 424 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give you that, but no, I really do 425 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: think this stuff looks better. 426 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 4: And you know, it's it's a weird season. You're the 427 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 4: longest tenured cardinal from the major league team, and I 428 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 4: get this is the. 429 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: Youngest clubhouse you and I have ever seen. So it's 430 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: a little different. Everything's a little different. 431 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 4: That's all right. 432 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: Different can be good. I mean we're we're hitting the 433 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: ball super good. We're hitting all so well. I mean 434 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: we got to Wheeler the other day and and Nola. 435 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: I mean that's too. 436 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: The better guys in the league, especially Wheeler and Andola 437 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: the last couple of years. 438 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 3: So to get to those guys, and we scored. 439 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: You know, we got to Skiens in Pittsburgh, and most 440 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: of the games we lost, you know, aside from even 441 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 2: in Boston, like the you know, the one game we 442 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: lost in Boston, you know, extra innings and all the 443 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: games of the Angels, you know, those games, all those 444 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: close games start falling our way. 445 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 3: And it's a it's it's it's a way different story. 446 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: I don't think you guys are you know, seven and 447 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: eight before the Houston series. We'll see how this is 448 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: at the end of the month, but you know, stay 449 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: around right like right around five hundred. I think you 450 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: guys will be just fine from there. 451 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: But we'll see on the on the better half of that, 452 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 2: i'd like to imagine. 453 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not doubting. 454 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: I really do feel like this team has a lot 455 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: of positive attributes that were probably not seen all the 456 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: way just because of the fan apathy and frustration based 457 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: off the off season, which, as you know, it doesn't 458 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: really have much to do with the players. 459 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, and you know, we sweep the first series. 460 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: And then I get like the weather's not great, but like, 461 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: we sweep the first series, and then like the first 462 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: game of the next series is like not as many 463 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: people as you'd like to see at the game. You know, 464 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: sometimes the fan base will turner on that, oh, they 465 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: swept the series. They're back, They're great, this is gonna 466 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: be awesome. MI, Like, let's go people are holding that. 467 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: I understand they're they're they're a little bit wary of us. 468 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: But we got some great baseball coming up, especially if 469 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 2: this weather gets nice, so hopefully the seats start flowing 470 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: up a little bit better. 471 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: And one thing you and I both know about Cardinals 472 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: fans is that the Cardinals continue to win, the fans 473 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: will show up. 474 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 4: I don't think they see it. 475 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, you know, for for the sake 476 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: of argument, Yeah, there's there's winning team, there's entertaining teams. 477 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 3: We're very entertaining. 478 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 4: You guys are very entertaining. 479 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 3: The salesman in me is gonna pitch. You know, come, 480 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: come out to the game, enjoy the game, Enjoy the weather. 481 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: Especially in the spring when it's still nice in August 482 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 2: when it's one hundred for those day games. I understand that, 483 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: you know, you want to make sure you get a 484 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: seat in the shade, but right now, fill up the stadium. 485 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 3: The weather's nice, Come out and watch, you know, watch 486 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 3: the ball. 487 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 2: Game, Appreciate the effort that we're putting forth, and and 488 00:21:58,840 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: enjoy it. 489 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: Speaking of watching Cardinals baseball, you can now stream the 490 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: Saintless Cardinals on FanDuel Sports Network let's hear from them 491 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: real quick. 492 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 4: Me out to my TV A. 493 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 8: Bad Duels Sports Now work. 494 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, watch bas of Fingers and the RBS. 495 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 8: I'm just glad they am a local dude lab for 496 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 8: its root, the root for the Cardinals, Buel Sports, the Gardens. 497 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm a streamer. 498 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: All right. 499 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: Let's let's do some behind the scenes with our scouting 500 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: report presented by FanDuel Sports Network. Let's scout your own rotation, 501 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: because you know, the clubhouse is the clubhouse, but there 502 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 1: are little groups based on positions. 503 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 3: And the rotation. 504 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 4: You guys do everything together. 505 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: You're you know, whoever is not starting or whoever starting 506 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: that day obviously excluded. But I always see you know, 507 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: the four other now five with Steven Matt's coming into 508 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: the mix, sitting together, cracking jokes. 509 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 4: It's a tight knit group. 510 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: I need the scouting report on the personalities of your 511 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: fellow rotation mates. Okay, all right, let's start with Let's 512 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: start with Matthew Libertoire. He's frush off a very good 513 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: start against the Villis. 514 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 3: Yes, Linny is you know, quiet but. 515 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: Very like like when he has something to say, it's 516 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 2: like it's very deliberate and usually important, but he likes 517 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: to sit there and he likes to listen, and then 518 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: his fair thing to talk about is baseball. He's like, 519 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 2: he's he's the one guy. I think him and Sonny 520 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 2: are like the two guys that I would say are 521 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: like the guys who are like almost like the baseball fanatics, like. 522 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: Everything about like every little scene and every little stitch, you. 523 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: Know, like always he always has a baseball in his hand, 524 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 2: you know, quiet, lots of fun. He's always always watching 525 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: and studying the other pictures. And then if you do 526 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 2: something that he likes, he likes to ask you about, 527 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: like you got this little movie? You doing this because 528 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 2: he likes to further his understanding of of of baseball. 529 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: A student of the game. Okay, so the game. 530 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a good way to put it. 531 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 4: So what is Look, we talked to Sunny Gray every 532 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 4: five days. 533 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: But he's an intense guy and it's right after he pitched, 534 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: and starters are very peculiar, so we always get the 535 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: very intense Sonny Gray. And I'll see Sonny, you know, 536 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: in the clubhouse or the you know. Sometimes he likes 537 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: he likes to walk to the stadium and so do 538 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: I see him always so pleasant, super nice. 539 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 4: But what is Sonny Gray like when he's not starting, 540 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 4: What is Sonny Great like as a teammate. 541 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 3: He's he's fun. He's fun. He's he's he's making jokes. 542 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 3: He's trying to have fun. He keeps it light and 543 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 3: you know, he's he's pretty regimented. 544 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 2: He's always going about his business like he's he's cracking jokes, 545 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: you know, in in transit because he has a place 546 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: to be. You know, he's got the training room, the gym, 547 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: he's in you know, doing his homework on his on 548 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: his computer, doing stuff like that. 549 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 3: So he's always he's always busy. You don't see him 550 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: sitting still a lot. He's he's always interacting. He likes 551 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 3: to keep moving. 552 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: You know, he's outside on the field, you know, you know, barefoot, 553 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 2: you know, doing stuff on the grass, like stretching. 554 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 3: Always busy, always being productive and always you know, always 555 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 3: kind of cracking jokes, having fun. 556 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: Okay, last question from the rotation from the personal scouting side. 557 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: Who is the most gullible in the rotation and why 558 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 1: is it Andre Polante? 559 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 3: Because he's young. 560 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: He's he's young, he's he's I mean, I guess Livy's 561 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: technically younger, but Dre just has like this. But Livy's married, 562 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: you know, he's a little more grown up, I guess, 563 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: And in that sense, you know, he was a high 564 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: school draft guy. He's you know, been out on his 565 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 2: own since high school a little bit, and Dre might 566 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: be a little more anchored, you know, college boy attitude. 567 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: California kid. I don't know. Maybe being from California makes 568 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: him gullible. I would, I would say. 569 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm pretty I'm pretty gold You guys can 570 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: you guys can get me on a lot of things. 571 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 2: From what I understand, people in California fall for falling 572 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: forward for a while multiple fronts. But he's he's young, 573 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: and I think he wants you to believe that he's gullible. 574 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: Plant has like a really dry, like a dry sense 575 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 2: of humor, So so he wants you to believe that 576 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 2: he is a little more gullible than he looks. I'm 577 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: not saying he's he's not playing the role of of 578 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 2: like a simple guy, like he's not. 579 00:26:59,200 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 3: He doesn't. 580 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: He doesn't feign ignorance, sure, but but he definitely is, 581 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: you know, a little he's he likes to play along like, 582 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 2: you know, we're pulling jokes down. 583 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 3: He'll he'll play along with the jokes, and he'll fall for. 584 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: The jokes because he understands like he's the younger guy 585 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: and we're just he knows the jokes are harmless, but 586 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: he'll just play along with them so we get our laugh. 587 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 3: And then he's probably you know, walking away going I 588 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 3: saw coming from a mile away. I'll just because if 589 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 3: he doesn't fall for the joke or or the prank 590 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: or whatever it is, he knows. 591 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 2: That we're just gonna keep at it until we get 592 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: him or until we get what we want out of it. 593 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: So he's like, I'll just you know, all, you know, 594 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: I'll take a bite of it and let him be 595 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: done with it. You know, it's it's it's done. 596 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 3: It's over. 597 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 4: Poor Polanta. He just can't win with you guys. 598 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: But there's always one in the rotation that kind of 599 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: has to just wear it. And he's always been a 600 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: total pro with us, at. 601 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: Least every every stab, every team does, a guy that 602 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: has to has to be the butt of some jokes 603 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: and that's just how it is. 604 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: Well that's Miles Michael's scouting report on the Saint Louis 605 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals rotation presented by. 606 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 4: FanDuel Sports Network. 607 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: You can now stream the Saint Louis Cardinals games through 608 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: FanDuel Sports Network and if you use the promo code 609 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: Baseball thirty, you can start it off with a thirty 610 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: day extended free trial at fanduelsportsnetwork dot com slash packages. 611 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: This steel expires May second, twenty twenty five, nineteen ninety nine, 612 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: a month after your free trial canceled. 613 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 4: During your free trial. 614 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: To avoid charges, eligibility restrictions apply, visit fanduelsportsnetwork dot com 615 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: for details. Miles were almost at time here, but I 616 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: did want to reserve some time for your rant on 617 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: youth sports. And if you've ever listened to a Miles 618 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: Michael's rant, it can go anywhere. So I'm I'm listening 619 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: and the floor is yours. 620 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: All I want to say is, like the emphasis on 621 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: winning and the stuff that I hear from other people, 622 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: like emphasis on winning at. 623 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: A young age, like I've had almost. 624 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: Enough of it, Maybe like that eleven to twelve, like 625 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: the little Big World Series age, then we can really 626 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: focus on winning. But you got like machine pitch coaches 627 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: arguing about how many runs they scored. 628 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 3: Kids six or seven years old. I think it's fun, 629 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: Like with the walk up songs, I think it's fun. 630 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: Some of the stuff. I can't believe that the parents 631 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: letting their children listen to some of the music. I 632 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: hope it's an edited version, even. 633 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: If it's not, like it's suggestive and kids don't know 634 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: what the words mean sometimes. But you know, my kids 635 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: listen to like the classic country, classic rock, you know, 636 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: things like that, and there's messages in all the music. 637 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: But some of the walkout songs, the kids come out, 638 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: So I'm like, that's not appropriate even to editing, I 639 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: don't think. But you also you don't need a walk 640 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: out song. I get like they want to have the slag, 641 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: they want to be like the pros they see on TV. 642 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: But I think it's a little much. I mean, when 643 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: I was in Little League, all you. 644 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 3: Had to do was were your hat backwards like hanger 645 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 3: for junior, and that was like the big thing. Now 646 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 3: it's like, you know, arm inviting. I heard someone complain 647 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 3: his kids were a little older. 648 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: I heard of a friend of mine complaining, they they're 649 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: kids like ten years old and they allow steals. 650 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 3: The kid gets on first base. He steals second. 651 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: No catchers can throw the ball to second base because 652 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: he's only ten years old. 653 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: And then it's a bad throw. Then the kid runs 654 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 3: the third. Every hit is a. 655 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: Triple stop, the stealing stop, rushing these kids. Let them 656 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: work on the skills and the fundamentals, especially at a 657 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: younger age. In this machine pitch league. They you know, 658 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: like a routine ground ball to shortstop. Sometimes the coaches 659 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: will tell the shortstop to just eat it, like don't 660 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 2: don't throw it, because if he throws it, it's a 661 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty chance or probably better than that, that 662 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: the ball goes to. 663 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 3: The fence and that the kid's going to be on 664 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 3: second base. If I was running these leagues, there's no 665 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 3: taking an extra base. 666 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: Unless it's like a throw to third base, you know, 667 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: like maybe getting a force out and then the guy 668 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: can score, like you can you can take home plate 669 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,719 Speaker 2: if it's a bath row to third. But like, let 670 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: the kid run to first base, let him run all 671 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: the way through. Make the kid at shortstop for third base, 672 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: make the throw. Let him practice the throw in real time, 673 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: whether the guy's safe or out or he throws it 674 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: over his head or throw his legs. But let him 675 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: make the throw and leave the kid on first base. 676 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: Keep the force play at second base in line so 677 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: the kids can learn that when there's a guy on 678 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: first that you feel it, then you can get an 679 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: easier out at second because you end up with ground 680 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: ball to shortstop. The kid throws it to first base 681 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: or you know whatever, he's on second. Now there's no 682 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: force play. Now the kids don't understand. They get the ball, 683 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: the kids on second, they're not understanding, like where to 684 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: do they throw it to third, but it's not a 685 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: force and it just like it it message with the 686 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: whole flow of the game, like let him play the 687 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: game the right way. Encourage them to throw and make 688 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 2: the play it, not just like, oh, don't make an error, 689 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 2: don't throw it like that. That drives me nuts. I'm like, 690 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 2: throw the ball. 691 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 3: Just throw it. 692 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: And if I was a coach, when I am a 693 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: coach in the future, I'll try to get the other 694 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: coaches on board. 695 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 3: I'll be like, hey, let's not take extra bases today. 696 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 3: Let the kid throw it. 697 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: Let's not take extra bases. I bet you the game 698 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: will go by faster. The kid will still be safe, 699 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: he won't be out, Like keep the force play alive. 700 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: The game might even move, The game would move quicker, 701 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 2: maybe guys would get more bats or more reps, and. 702 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: Just like. 703 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: It just you know, let them play, let them play, 704 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: let them let them develop, and then like the kids 705 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: doing the travel ball seven eight years old travel team. 706 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: There used to be one travel team in Jupiter when 707 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: I was growing up, when I got a little older, 708 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: there were maybe two. 709 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 3: Now there's like, you know, you have like organizations. Yeah, 710 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 3: like you know, the the. 711 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: Jupiter Whoever's They've got a ten, a twelve, and a 712 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: fourteen year old team. 713 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: They've got an A team and a B team for 714 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 3: each age. And it's like, I don't know, I don't 715 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 3: know what we're doing. 716 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: I didn't play I don't think I played travel ball. Really, 717 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: you know, you play Little League and then you play 718 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: all Stars. I know it's different now, but I think 719 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: the I think the reps are good. But driving halfway 720 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: across the state for nine ten year olds to have 721 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: six at bats off a coach or a machine and 722 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 2: then not even throw the ball across the diamond because 723 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 2: we're worried about making an air and a kid taking 724 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: second base, I don't know. 725 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: I don't get it. 726 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 2: And I read an article or an extrapt from an 727 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 2: article that was talking about the Tommy. 728 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 3: John surgeries over the last however long and it was 729 00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 3: twenty of them. 730 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: Of the twenty pitchers, nineteen of them were American born 731 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 2: pictures and one of them was a Latin player. 732 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 3: And it was a knock on. 733 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 2: The travel ball, like just do everything you can to 734 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 2: throw hard at a at a young age, and you know, 735 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 2: mechanics be danged or you know, your body be darned. 736 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: Just you gotta throw hard. You gotta throw hard, you 737 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 3: gotta throw hard. And these kids are blown out, you know, 738 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 3: younger than ever, earlier than ever, and like more often 739 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 3: than ever. 740 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 4: Culture not it, No, it's not. 741 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: And the that was the whole point is that at 742 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: some point there has to be a shift in the 743 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 2: way that travel ball and all these things kind of 744 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: work so kids can stay healthy and baseball can stay 745 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 2: you know, the way it is. 746 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: For those that be wondering what reporters and players talk 747 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: about in the hour of clubhouse every day, that that's 748 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: about it. 749 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 4: Very little work. Some some reporters do work, not necessarily me. 750 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: Uh, my favorite thing about you, Miles is that I 751 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: never know what we're going to talk about we've done. 752 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about the carnivore diet, We've talked 753 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: about this, so things like, there's so many things. 754 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 2: Going on in the you know, in today's day and age, 755 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 2: there's always you know, all I do is, you know, 756 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 2: read the internet news for just a for just a minute, 757 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 2: and you've got all different stuff. 758 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: We never run out of things to talk about. I 759 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: also noticed that you've had a baseball in your hand 760 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: this entire podcast, and I've had a pen in my 761 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: hand this entire time. I think this is a true 762 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, and bodies the we're just master masters 763 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: of our craft. 764 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 2: Libby had a great game the other day. Always has 765 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 2: a baseball in his hand. I'm seeing if maybe that's. 766 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 4: The Sonny does too. Sonny always has. 767 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 2: A babi to always always in a baseball, Always like 768 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: messing with the grip. I'm all, you know, working on 769 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: your grips. So some days some grips feel great and 770 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 2: some days. 771 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 3: They feel like I don't even want to, like I 772 00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: kind of like wash my hands on it. 773 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 4: Than no, I don't want it. 774 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, hopefully your next star which is Friday against 775 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: the New York Mets is another great one. We'll see 776 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: but I know you have to get to buchhade him 777 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: and so do I. So hey, thank you so much 778 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: for doing this. 779 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 4: I always appreciate time outside of the work hours. Yeah 780 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 4: it's Miles Michaelis You know him, you love him. 781 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm Katie Woo. This is Cardinal Territory. We'll be back 782 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: later in the week. Bernie Michlas and I will wrap 783 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: up the Astro series. Until then, thanks for watching, Myles. 784 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 4: I'll see you in a little bit. 785 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. See you later.