WEBVTT - 2023 Draft Day One | Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, April 28

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<v Speaker 1>It is Thursday, April twenty seventh, Happy Draft Day. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Jaguars Happy Hour. And now a guy who's anything

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<v Speaker 1>but mister irrelevant, Jay P.

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<v Speaker 2>Chaggery, and welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on Draft Night

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three. Round one coming up at eight o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern time. The Jaguars had the twenty fourth overall pick.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're watching us on Jaguars dot Com or Jagsocial media,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a live look inside Daily's Place, and we welcome

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<v Speaker 2>you inside Daily's Place. We've got a busy hour ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what's coming up on Jaguars Happy Hour. The NFL

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<v Speaker 2>Draft is here for twenty twenty three. We'll hear from

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars analyst Jeff Loghman coming up, Jaguars dot Com.

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<v Speaker 3>Senior writer John Ozer, and a draft a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Just moments ago, I caught up with general manager Trent Bulky.

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<v Speaker 2>We will hear that conversation in just a few moments. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Logoman, John Osier with me.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>We're on the second level at Daily's Place. The gates

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<v Speaker 2>open at seven o'clock tonight, and John, it's always an

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<v Speaker 2>exciting evening. Round one, no matter where the Jaguars are picking.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you just talk with Trent who they taking.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll find. I don't think we're gonna find.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the conversation is about, on a serious note,

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<v Speaker 5>I think this is I say, a benchmark draft, but

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<v Speaker 5>an important draft because it's the first of what I

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<v Speaker 5>think is going to be the Jaguars drafts new era,

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<v Speaker 5>meaning for the last ten or twelve years, they've picked

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<v Speaker 5>in the top ten all but one year. I think

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<v Speaker 5>now you're gonna see more drafts like this, more pre

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<v Speaker 5>draft lead up like this. And Jeff, you have to

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<v Speaker 5>be able to draft well in the bottom quarter of

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<v Speaker 5>the first round if you're going to be a draft

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<v Speaker 5>and developed team over the long haul, and this is

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<v Speaker 5>the first time they get a chance to do that.

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<v Speaker 6>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I've said many times that the draft is the lifeblood

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<v Speaker 2>of any franchise, and a lot of people think, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't get that good of a player when you're

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<v Speaker 2>drafting in the bottom third of the and that's not

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<v Speaker 2>the case. I mean, there's good football players throughout the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>You just got to do your homework and find good

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<v Speaker 2>football players. Now, the interesting thing about this draft to

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<v Speaker 2>me is is that if you look at all the

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<v Speaker 2>different mock drafts. They're all over the map. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>literally all over the map. There's probably about eighteen different

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<v Speaker 2>players that are mocked where the Jaguars are picking. And

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you guys, some years I've got

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<v Speaker 2>kind of an idea, you know, but maybe narrowing it

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<v Speaker 2>down to two or three players, I've got absolutely no

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<v Speaker 2>idea for two reasons. One, I think this is a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a question mark draft because there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of unknowns about where guys are at and where

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<v Speaker 2>they're stacked at. But then also, the Jaguars are very

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<v Speaker 2>close to the vest I mean, and right now, it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to kind of get a little bit of a feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>For where they're going to go, even offensively or defensively.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got no idea, but I can tell you there's

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<v Speaker 2>some really good football players that are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>found at twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's here.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll hear from Frin Balke coming up in just a

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<v Speaker 2>few moments, and we'll dig into some of those aspect

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<v Speaker 2>some of those names a little bit later on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>But a report this morning from JOHNSHIPLEYVESI dot com of

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<v Speaker 2>a pending Cam Robinson's suspension for a violation of the

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<v Speaker 2>performance enhancing Drug policy. Mike Deroco of ESPN reported that

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<v Speaker 2>the second sample will be tested to confirm what it

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<v Speaker 2>is and the length of the suspension. There are reports

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<v Speaker 2>he could lose nearly nine hundred thousand dollars per game out. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the team is known about this for a while now.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not a surprise this morning for the organization,

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<v Speaker 2>So no big shake up of the draft board, but

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<v Speaker 2>logs this is obviously a developing so we will see

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<v Speaker 2>what happens in the future with it. Not ideal for

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<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars. But should it change anything in draft press? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it always. You always have to take everything

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<v Speaker 2>into consideration. Something like this. Absolutely, you take this in

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<v Speaker 2>a consideration. Now, let's go back to this sample that

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about. When you take a PED test as

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<v Speaker 2>a player, because I've taken quite a few of them,

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<v Speaker 2>you pee in a bottle. Okay, that bottle is split

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<v Speaker 2>into two samples. The biggest one goes into bottle A,

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<v Speaker 2>and then a smaller one goes into bottle B. So

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<v Speaker 2>if something hits on A, okay, they go back and

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<v Speaker 2>retest the B part of that sample, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>same exact curine sample, okay, but it's just been split

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<v Speaker 2>into two parts.

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<v Speaker 3>So they want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Confirm so that what they're looking for is confirmation that

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, the substance that was found in A will

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<v Speaker 2>again be found in B and make sure that there

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<v Speaker 2>is no mistake. So just to give people an idea,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what the sample B is that you were talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you hope that it doesn't influence their decision in

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<v Speaker 5>round one too much.

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<v Speaker 4>I know they have taken any.

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<v Speaker 5>Consideration, but you hope, and I think Tran Balki sees

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<v Speaker 5>it this way that you are drafting for the long

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<v Speaker 5>haul more than you're drafting for a six game or

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<v Speaker 5>four game or whatever. That suspension not becomes That said,

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<v Speaker 5>I do believe with this class where it lines up

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<v Speaker 5>at twenty four, and with the fact that they learned

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<v Speaker 5>so much the importance of that swing tackle last year,

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<v Speaker 5>I do think offensive tackle was in play anyway. If

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<v Speaker 5>they draft one, everybody's gonna say, well, is because of

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<v Speaker 5>the suspension. I think offensive tackle would also be a

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<v Speaker 5>long term thing that makes sense for this franchise anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you've got a franchise quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so tackle is always in play and you

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<v Speaker 2>lost ja Won Taylor. Look, you signed in free agency

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Wells, who was here for many years when he

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<v Speaker 2>was a young player. And will he be a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that can step in and be a starter for six games?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure he could, and six games typical is typically what

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen with ped suspensions around the league in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Will that in fact be it for Cam Robinson? We

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<v Speaker 2>don't know until the league makes an announcement. But tackle

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<v Speaker 2>is in play. And the reason why it's in play

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<v Speaker 2>there's some really good tackles that are available. And also

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<v Speaker 2>there's some really good right tackles that are available in

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<v Speaker 2>this draft that are highly rated.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll discuss some of those guys a little bit later tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Now back to draft day and general manager Trent Bulkey.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a few moments ago, I sat down with him

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<v Speaker 2>in the Jaguars draft room and asked him, now almost

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<v Speaker 2>a decade of doing this as a GM in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>what's this draft day routine.

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<v Speaker 7>It's been the same all ten years, I think, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>I get up early, we walked through some of the

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<v Speaker 7>stuff in the morning. Ethan and I spent the morning

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<v Speaker 7>going through some things on the board. The board's been set.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, we haven't changed anything. We just kind of

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<v Speaker 7>take one more look and then I usually head out

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<v Speaker 7>for a run and get a few miles on the

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<v Speaker 7>road and get back here and try to get ready

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<v Speaker 7>for this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Are their nerves still? Is there anxiety? Is there a

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<v Speaker 2>mix of both? None at this time or just a

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<v Speaker 2>few hours away, you.

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<v Speaker 8>Know, not really.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I think we've put in a lot of time,

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of effort that went into this, you know, coaches, personnel, staff,

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<v Speaker 7>There's been a lot of hours that we sorted through

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<v Speaker 7>film and records on people, backgrounds, sha all the stuff

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<v Speaker 7>that you do to get ready.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>Now it's more just kind of the anxiety, the anxiousness

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<v Speaker 7>of getting this thing started. Finding out exactly who's going

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<v Speaker 7>to be a jawar.

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<v Speaker 2>You said last week, you're down to three or four

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<v Speaker 2>guys that you really think could be in play there

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<v Speaker 2>at twenty four. If it comes down to it and

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<v Speaker 2>multiple of those three or four guys are available, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you figure out which one you take?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, that's already been decided, you know, we have a

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<v Speaker 7>pecking order. Coach and I met with with Shad last night,

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<v Speaker 7>went through our thoughts, you know, exactly the order we

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<v Speaker 7>would pick them as they come off.

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<v Speaker 8>Today isn't the day to debate who you're gonna go.

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<v Speaker 7>After, right, we have three or four guys that we

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<v Speaker 7>feel really good about, and we have more than that,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, let's face it.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, you've got to be prepared for anything.

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<v Speaker 7>But we've got a group of guys that were really

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<v Speaker 7>interested in and we've got an order at which we

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<v Speaker 7>would take them.

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<v Speaker 2>How wild could it get at the top just seeing

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<v Speaker 2>all these reports. I know you're not a big Twitter guy,

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<v Speaker 2>but all that stuff combined the last day or two

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<v Speaker 2>before the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Can be chaos. Is that reality tonight?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>Everyone thought it was last year and very little went on,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, so who knows?

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>That's the great thing about the draft, right, everything that happens.

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<v Speaker 7>Nobody can really plan out. You really don't know until

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<v Speaker 7>you're on the clock a lot of times whether you're

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<v Speaker 7>going to make a move or not make a move.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's no different for any other team. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the draft process is bringing those drafted players

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<v Speaker 2>back for a second contract that gives stability the organization.

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<v Speaker 2>Devona Hamilton signed that was announced today extended draft pick

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<v Speaker 2>here has worked his way up and really has been

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<v Speaker 2>rewarded with a deal long term. And that's really the

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<v Speaker 2>goal of the organization, right to get these draft picks

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<v Speaker 2>to stick around for a while.

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<v Speaker 7>You want to be a homegrown football team as much

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<v Speaker 7>as you can, and we've been pretty fortunate the last

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<v Speaker 7>couple of years. We've gotten some really good quality free

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<v Speaker 7>agents and really good culture fits, really good football players.

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<v Speaker 7>But the philosophy of this team, this organization is going

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<v Speaker 7>to be draft and retained. And you know, Devon has

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<v Speaker 7>worked his tail off and you know he's.

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<v Speaker 8>A byproduct of that process.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, he's a great culture fit, He's an excellent

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<v Speaker 7>fit for the defensive.

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<v Speaker 8>Scheme we run.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I can't say enough good things about him in

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<v Speaker 7>the contract that he signed earned.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the last draft in this room, because next

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<v Speaker 2>year you'll be in the football building.

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<v Speaker 3>How about that?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you know this is a great room, it really is.

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<v Speaker 7>We were talking to the ownership about it last night. Very

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<v Speaker 7>few have this kind of space. We got three full

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<v Speaker 7>screen videos going on. We can do a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>things and here from a technology standpoint, the new one's

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<v Speaker 7>going to be special though too.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Trent Bulky Jaguars general manager in the draft room man,

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<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars have nine picks in their pocket over the weekend. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>if we know anything about Trent Bulke's draft history, he

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<v Speaker 2>has been willing to move a lot in the drafts

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<v Speaker 2>he has controlled. He's made twenty three draft day trades first, second,

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<v Speaker 2>or third day. We'll see if that trend continues. Anything

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<v Speaker 2>stand out there.

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<v Speaker 5>John Well, I'd love to see him take those Day

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<v Speaker 5>three picks, package them up and take them all and

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<v Speaker 5>move into Round two JP and get us out of

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<v Speaker 5>here on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course you will. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think.

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<v Speaker 5>The calmness of the day versus what people think the

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<v Speaker 5>draft really is, I think is always energy. People think

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<v Speaker 5>there's fighting banging on the table. There's very little of that.

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<v Speaker 5>Once you really on the clock. They know who they're

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<v Speaker 5>going to pick at number twenty four, and there's a

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<v Speaker 5>list of number twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>Jet Well.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are some rooms though that do have some

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<v Speaker 2>fighting going on on draft day. I mean, that's just

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<v Speaker 2>the reality of it. And look, if you're disciplined, though,

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<v Speaker 2>you stick to your board and you draft the best

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<v Speaker 2>of best available player that's on your board, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think also that because a lot of people say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>is need taking into account, Yes, it is, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>how the board is stacked as well, because need is

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<v Speaker 2>taken into account as well as the talent level of

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<v Speaker 2>the players that are on that board.

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<v Speaker 5>As much as that joke about it, Jay, I do

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<v Speaker 5>think I've got many questions about this supposedly being a

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<v Speaker 5>week day three draft.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what you.

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<v Speaker 5>Hear it is Trent in the past, I think it

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<v Speaker 5>was two years ago. Trade it out of a day

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<v Speaker 5>like that and try to get rid of as many

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<v Speaker 5>places as possible and move into that next year. You

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<v Speaker 5>wonder if that's not something to watch on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>Could be? Could be? Could be?

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<v Speaker 2>But I think the one thing that is for certain

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<v Speaker 2>this football team is going to be looking at certain

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<v Speaker 2>positions very strongly. I think one of those positions is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be cornerback, because this team has a need at corner.

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<v Speaker 2>You would love to find a defensive tackle that can

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<v Speaker 2>rush the passer. You would love to find a tight

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<v Speaker 2>end that can block and catch the ball because Doug Peterson,

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<v Speaker 2>we know, loves a two tight end set. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many different players that fit into those categories. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's going to be a very interesting draft. And

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<v Speaker 2>some of the ones that we have up on the

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<v Speaker 2>screen right there. Devin Witherspoon is a total tone center.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy watching his film John I love him. Christian

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<v Speaker 2>Gonzalez is a guy that's got immense talent.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be awesome for where every team gets that.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those guys or at corner would be a

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<v Speaker 2>tremendous acquisition. Brian Branch I love him because he's a

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<v Speaker 2>safety that plays nickel, He's got great football smarts. Joey

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<v Speaker 2>Porter plays great man. I mean, there's a lot of great,

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<v Speaker 2>great assets that are available, and those are five of

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<v Speaker 2>them right there at corner.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we'll come back in a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll dig a little deeper into some of those prospects,

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<v Speaker 2>some others on defense, certainly the offensive line if that's

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<v Speaker 2>in play tonight for the Jaguars, and plenty more ahead

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<v Speaker 9>Impossible to predict, you know. So I think there's gonna

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<v Speaker 9>be good players there, but in terms of, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>the runs that take place and where that goes, it's

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<v Speaker 9>tough to see exactly who's going to be there when

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<v Speaker 9>they pick, because everybody's all over the map this year.

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<v Speaker 9>So I think they're in a pretty good spot. You know,

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<v Speaker 9>they'll be able to go in a couple different directions.

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<v Speaker 9>I think the corner of the group is so deep

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<v Speaker 9>that I do feel like there's gonna be a corner

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<v Speaker 9>to their liking that's there, you know when they pick.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Daniel Jeremiah NFL Network with Brian Sexton and Arthur

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<v Speaker 2>Bryant's Barbecue. Not a bad place for media day for

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL Media department, Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour,

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<v Speaker 2>Jake Shadrick, John Osier, Jeff Logoman. Of course, the full

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<v Speaker 2>interview with Daniel, Jeremy and some other media personalities from

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<v Speaker 2>NFL Network available now in Jaguars dot Com and the

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<v Speaker 2>Official Jaguars Podcast network. So we touched on some of

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<v Speaker 2>the defensive backs last segment. That was some of the

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<v Speaker 2>conversation that Daniel was having right there with Brian Sexton

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<v Speaker 2>as well. And here's the reason why. It's a position

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<v Speaker 2>of need. Obviously, Shaq Griffin is gone. You got a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty year old corner on the outside who played down

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<v Speaker 2>the stretch on the outside last year.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the real long term future for him? There? Trey

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<v Speaker 3>Herndon has been resigned.

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<v Speaker 2>How long do you feel like he could be available

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<v Speaker 2>and at a high.

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<v Speaker 3>Level for this team?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course they love Tyson Campbell on the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>So John, yes, why not? You can't have enough corners

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<v Speaker 2>really in this league the way offense is played right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'll defer to Jeff and ask Jeff this to me.

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<v Speaker 5>Darius Williams struggled at Nickel, so he was better on

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<v Speaker 5>the outside. You're not gonna dothing with Tyson Campbell. Out

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<v Speaker 5>of the defensive backs that could be there at twenty four,

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<v Speaker 5>is there somebody who you can play nickel in the

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<v Speaker 5>short term and then kick out to the outside or

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<v Speaker 5>do you have the same problem that you have a

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<v Speaker 5>Darius not really strong in the middle, needs to be outside.

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<v Speaker 5>Is there a guy that that makes sense with That's

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<v Speaker 5>why I think Branch makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Branch makes sense because I think he can play anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he can play nickel, I think he can

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<v Speaker 2>play safety. Could he play outside and play corner possibly,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't think that's the ultimate spot for him.

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<v Speaker 2>But the top two guys that are there in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>Devin Witherspoon and Christian Gonzalees. If for some reason, either

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<v Speaker 2>one of these guys, and we were just talking about

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<v Speaker 2>this turn to break, if either one of these guys

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<v Speaker 2>happens to fall down to twenty four, you got to

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<v Speaker 2>snatch them off. And there's a possibility that that could happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But as Daniel Jeremiah said that, look, it's a deep position.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you could pick up somebody that's you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>round two or round three.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll give you a name. Roley Moss at Iowa, a

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<v Speaker 3>little known guy.

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<v Speaker 2>That just I mean his effortless playing man coverage, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's got great speed, and he's got a great resume.

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<v Speaker 2>He's played multiple years. Said I there's a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars could get him round two or a round three.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so there's gonna be other opportunities, not just

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<v Speaker 2>in round one, to fill that need that you have

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<v Speaker 2>at corner. Let's stay on defense and pass rush, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is a group that we heard Doug

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<v Speaker 2>Peterson talk about it in the pre draft lunch in

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<v Speaker 2>last week. You know, they've spent some draft equity at

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<v Speaker 2>that position and that idea at least the last two

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<v Speaker 2>three years. Obviously number one overall pick last year, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said that, hey, those guys have to get better

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<v Speaker 2>as well, not that they can't supplement that. Maybe not

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<v Speaker 2>in the first round, but at some point in this draft, John,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta maybe address that again.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's such a tough call because you need to

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<v Speaker 5>trust the guys that you drafted on the front seven last.

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<v Speaker 4>Year to be your core up there this year.

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<v Speaker 5>At the same time, you've got to get better in

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<v Speaker 5>the pass rush. I don't think they will go pass

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<v Speaker 5>rush at twenty four unless there's somebody special that they

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<v Speaker 5>think is there. The guy that I keep hearing about

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<v Speaker 5>last couple of days in terms of reading about associated

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<v Speaker 5>with the Jaguars, reports that they're interested, et cetera, is

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<v Speaker 5>the van Ness kid from Iowa. It seems like he's

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<v Speaker 5>the best potential option there at twenty four. What do

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<v Speaker 5>you think of him and what else could be there

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<v Speaker 5>at twenty four?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, for him, he hasn't started a lot of games

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<v Speaker 2>that Iowa but.

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<v Speaker 5>A program though that loves to play their seniors and

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<v Speaker 5>make guys earn it. My understanding is yeah, so that's

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<v Speaker 5>what sort of kept him out of that, that's the theory.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, He's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Very powerful player.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people want to draw the comparison to

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Smith, which I would kind of be slow to

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<v Speaker 2>make that comparison great because Justin Smith is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the strongest players to ever play the game, and look,

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<v Speaker 2>Vanessa is a strong player.

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<v Speaker 3>But is he that level? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you get to the NFL, it's a totally different thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But the one thing that he doesn't have yet is

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<v Speaker 2>an array of pass rush moves.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, he's an.

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<v Speaker 2>Edge player that plays with a lot of power, likes

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<v Speaker 2>the bull rushing.

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<v Speaker 3>Can he learn to do more? Maybe? Maybe, But there's

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<v Speaker 3>some other guys that are that are at that edge.

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<v Speaker 2>Position and as an interior rusher that are other good

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<v Speaker 2>options as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Nolan Smith could be one of those guys. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's too small, JP.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, he come on when you play too

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<v Speaker 2>when you play an edge position at two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five pounds, I mean, look, you got to get

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<v Speaker 2>some leaden your shorts, and he doesn't have a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot of leadnis shorts. And I think he's a He's

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<v Speaker 2>a stand up linebacker. Could he be an edge player

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<v Speaker 2>on sub situation?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure he could. Devin Lloyd almost yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean as far as size wise, been probably even

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit smaller in stature than Devin Lloyd. I

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<v Speaker 2>love him, though, I mean, don't get me wrong. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I love this guy, but I think he's a linebacker.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's an edge player. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>best edge player in the draft is Tyry Wilson. This

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<v Speaker 2>guy is an absolute freaking JP.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I know Alabama's close to your heart and they've got

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<v Speaker 2>a guy and Robinson.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>But Tyry Wilson has got length, he's got size, and

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<v Speaker 2>he plays the game with power.

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<v Speaker 3>Love.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're talking about give me a bag of

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<v Speaker 2>popcorn and let me watch Tyree Wilson. I'm golding slip

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<v Speaker 2>around to the offensive side of the football. Now with

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<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars, hey, they could be in play for an

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<v Speaker 2>offensive lineman. Of course at number twenty four. And we

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<v Speaker 2>touched on a couple of these guys. Let's start though,

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<v Speaker 2>with the big fella out of the University of Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 2>Darnell Wright, who against Will Anderson in that one matchups

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<v Speaker 2>that's one sample size. What else can he do? He

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<v Speaker 2>has a little attitude to go with it. He can

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<v Speaker 2>do everything. I mean, this is a guy that's done

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<v Speaker 2>it for a long period of time. He There's been

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<v Speaker 2>some talk could he play left he maybe, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I think that would be a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a stretch. Maybe in a pinch, you could have

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<v Speaker 2>him play left tackle. But this guy is mean, he's powerful,

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<v Speaker 2>he's nasty, he's got the resume. In other words, the

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<v Speaker 2>game's under his belt. So because the one thing I

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<v Speaker 2>remember having a conversation with Trent Balky and it was

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<v Speaker 2>going back to last year when they were on the

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<v Speaker 2>OTAs and training camp, and he said something that is

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<v Speaker 2>just so true, and it's a philosophy that you got

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<v Speaker 2>to have when you're looking at personality. Said, look, guys

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<v Speaker 2>that have traits in college, those traits will carry over

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<v Speaker 2>into the NFL. So in other words, if a guy

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<v Speaker 2>has done it for a long period of time, he's

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<v Speaker 2>been available, and he's been powerful, then the chances of

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<v Speaker 2>him doing the same exact thing at the level in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL is more likely than a guy that you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to project that's been a one year wonder. This

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<v Speaker 2>guy has been doing it as for a long period

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<v Speaker 2>of time. When you watch him against all the good

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<v Speaker 2>players in that sec he was excellent, And.

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<v Speaker 5>You talk about a guy who indeed checks everybody. I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's forty two starts over four years at Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 5>forty seven games, which again that speaks to the reliability

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<v Speaker 5>Big Conference has played left and right tackle. To me,

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<v Speaker 5>this is one of the guys you know behind the curtain.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>I pre write three or four that I think might

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<v Speaker 4>be guys.

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<v Speaker 5>This is one of the ones that I think makes

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<v Speaker 5>so much sense that I aan ahead and pre road.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a great story. JP you look for to wait

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<v Speaker 4>to read as a man, but he is a man.

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<v Speaker 5>It all makes sense, especially when you consider that Walker

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<v Speaker 5>Little probably is a little more natural at left tackle.

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<v Speaker 4>Eventually.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what happens with Cam after this season,

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<v Speaker 5>but Walker left tackle, this kid at right tackle, where

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<v Speaker 5>he's natural. That sort of lines up with what you

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<v Speaker 5>see some of the Tea leaves being. It makes sense

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<v Speaker 5>of twenty four to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And just because he's more of a right tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>The best left tackle in the draft is is Paris Johnson,

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<v Speaker 2>junior at Ohio State. You know people are wondering. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean because look, I mean, if that guy's available at

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four, he could be an option too if they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna end up going offensive lineman. And Paris Johnson's got

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<v Speaker 2>the athleticism, he's got the length, like the way he

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<v Speaker 2>plays the game. And by the way, john when you

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<v Speaker 2>watch Ohio State, their offensive line has three possible first

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<v Speaker 2>round draft picks. I mean, that's just it's like watching Alabama,

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<v Speaker 2>House State.

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<v Speaker 3>Georgia's like crazy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The right tackle has like the longest wing span in

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<v Speaker 2>the history the Senior Bowl. Dwan Jones I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>guy is just a freak. He's kind of similar to

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<v Speaker 2>Darnell right in a lot of ways, and then how

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<v Speaker 2>he plays the game a little nasty.

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<v Speaker 3>He's big and.

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<v Speaker 2>He's powerful, So two right tackles that are similar. But

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<v Speaker 2>Darnell writes the man.

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<v Speaker 5>One thing that speaks to Jeff's point about the potential

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<v Speaker 5>for somebody like that to slide. Usually when you say

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<v Speaker 5>that before the draft, you sort of say it with yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's not going to happen. From talking to people

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<v Speaker 5>around the league and from reading about what's going on

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<v Speaker 5>this year, there is enough disagreement around the league about

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<v Speaker 5>who should be where that pretty much in every mock

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<v Speaker 5>draft you follow, there is one guy who slides to

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<v Speaker 5>twenty three, twenty four that everybody else in a normal.

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<v Speaker 4>Year would be saying, well, no way he makes it there.

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<v Speaker 5>So could this be a year where the chaos at

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<v Speaker 5>the top of the draft benefits the Jaguars with some

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<v Speaker 5>elite player. Usually I would say it's great to talk

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<v Speaker 5>about not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe this year is the year it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, And here's something else to remember, you're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>four quarterbacks. They're going to get drafted and make four

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<v Speaker 2>of the Jaguars, maybe five five, which pushes all the

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<v Speaker 2>talent that's at all the other positions down to the Jaguars.

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<v Speaker 2>So what John is saying is is dead on the money,

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<v Speaker 2>and especially with the quarterback focus in this draft, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a great chance of that happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Well back in the moment.

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<v Speaker 10>When we go back to the playoff game and it's

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<v Speaker 10>half time and he's had a rough first ask to

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<v Speaker 10>put it mildly, and the head coach is just like,

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<v Speaker 10>he's fine, we just gotta do this, We got to

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<v Speaker 10>do that, and then it all came together. I don't

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<v Speaker 10>know that I saw a better moment in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Last Charles Davis, CBS Sports NFL Network love coverage of

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the bank. It should be a packed house tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>seven o'clock for the Duval Draft party and welcome back

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<v Speaker 2>at Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadwick, John Ozer and Jeff Logoman.

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<v Speaker 3>Good to hear from Charles Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>The full interview available on Jaguars dot com and the

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<v Speaker 2>Official Jaguars Podcast Net. We're talking about the quarterback play

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<v Speaker 2>in the playoff game, of course, last year at Carter's game.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a fantastic memory, of course, and it's the reason

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<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars are drafting twenty four. They got to the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs and they lost in the divisional rounds, so here

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<v Speaker 2>they are. It would have been twenty five the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 2>forfeited their pick as a penalty, and now it's twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four in the NFL Draft tonight in round number one.

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<v Speaker 3>So here we go tonight, one hundred and twenty seven players.

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<v Speaker 2>Trent Balky said, check all the boxes for a prospect,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, not three hundred and fifty or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to the combine. They narrow this thing down, John

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<v Speaker 2>to one twenty seven. It was a specific number that

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<v Speaker 2>Trent talked about last week, and that might have surprised

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<v Speaker 2>some maybe some folks who aren't following this on an

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<v Speaker 2>everyday basis, but that's pretty much a part for the

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<v Speaker 2>course number.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, to clarify a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 5>That doesn't mean that they only think one hundred and

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<v Speaker 5>twenty seven guys in this draft can play in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't mean that that's all they studied. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>mean they've overlooked things. It means that as they've done

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<v Speaker 5>their draft, there's different areas of the draft, different clusters

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<v Speaker 5>of players around the draft first round through seventh round.

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<v Speaker 5>They have one hundred and twenty seven total guys that

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<v Speaker 5>they consider the ideal picks at those positions that they

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<v Speaker 5>would have won on this football team. And from everything

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<v Speaker 5>I've heard, Jeff, that's a very common number. One hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and twenty five to about one hundred and fifty of

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<v Speaker 5>guys do you really feel like you want? Because why

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<v Speaker 5>wouldn't you narrow it down to that point?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and one of the reasons why that number is

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<v Speaker 2>what it is. You would have certain guys that wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>make the list because of some type of physical condition

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<v Speaker 2>or injury that he's had, maybe a failed physical, and

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<v Speaker 2>then also some personalities that just don't fit.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>You hear Trent and Doug talking a lot about the

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<v Speaker 2>word culture, okay, and what they mean by that is

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<v Speaker 2>that the player has to have a certain personality, a

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<v Speaker 2>certain work ethic, and a certain way about them to

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<v Speaker 2>fit what they're trying to build here. And if they

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<v Speaker 2>don't fit that mold, they don't make that list of

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 4>And it may be even a couple scheme fit.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, if they just don't think a guy can play

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<v Speaker 5>a corner in the style that they want to play,

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<v Speaker 5>they may just think, you know, for instance, a running

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<v Speaker 5>back at the top of the draft, we don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to invest running back at a position in the first round.

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<v Speaker 4>A kid from Texas.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I don't know how they feel about him,

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<v Speaker 5>but you never know if they really think, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 5>is just not a year we want to do this.

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<v Speaker 5>We need to go other areas. So there's different reasons

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<v Speaker 5>why guys come off the board.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I would never exclude any position because

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<v Speaker 2>you feel good about where you're at. Sure, because if

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden Jamier Gibbs, your guy JP at

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama is available in round two. Sure, that guy's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>It catches everything out of the backfielding. He's a great

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<v Speaker 2>dynamic running back. I mean, so I would never personally

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<v Speaker 2>disqualify a position based on where we were at from

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<v Speaker 2>a roster standpoint, because have you ever heard of coach say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, we got too many good tackles or

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<v Speaker 2>we got too many good running backs.

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<v Speaker 3>You never hear that.

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<v Speaker 2>He also said Trent Plalke last week in the Predraft

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<v Speaker 2>Luncher that they've got two, three four players that they

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<v Speaker 2>really would feel comfortably after you're there.

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<v Speaker 3>They should be there at twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they've mocked this thing out John so many times,

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<v Speaker 2>different scenarios. If this happens, then this could happen, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we could get down there. You really might not

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<v Speaker 2>know until about four or five picks above you truly

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<v Speaker 2>what's availed and there.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's really the question mark about a night like tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he clarified with you they have options.

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<v Speaker 5>If they don't they don't go that route, they won't

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<v Speaker 5>be stuck without a player that they think can help.

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<v Speaker 5>It's why I do wonder what the possibility of them

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<v Speaker 5>trading out of that spot are. They've never done it.

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<v Speaker 5>The Jaguars have never been without a first round pick.

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<v Speaker 5>Twenty four to thirty two is a long way to

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<v Speaker 5>go to get out of the first round. But considering that,

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<v Speaker 5>I think they want to come out of the first

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<v Speaker 5>two or three rounds with a tackle offense, I mean

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<v Speaker 5>a offensive lineman, tight end, and cornerback corner. Could they

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<v Speaker 5>try to come back and get those three players later

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<v Speaker 5>in the draft to add on somebody. I don't think so,

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<v Speaker 5>but maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>It just depends on what somebody's off yet, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it's all about, all right, final thought?

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<v Speaker 3>Pick? How about a pick for twenty four?

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<v Speaker 5>John real quick, I've been kind of leaning on Branch,

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<v Speaker 5>Brian Branch from Alabama, just because he can come in

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<v Speaker 5>and play Nickel move to safety later.

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<v Speaker 4>He makes so much sense.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm less passionate about that than I was yesterday. Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>but for now I'll go with that because that's been

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<v Speaker 5>my horse all on.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff, oh Gosh, put you on the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just say I'll give you a position because I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's a number of guys I think corner is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be the position, and I'm gonna position Jallas is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna slide and they're gonna grab him.

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<v Speaker 3>Up at twenty four. I think so you never know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going Darnell.

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<v Speaker 4>Right tackle Tyree Wilson's gonna slide.

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<v Speaker 3>How about that? Love him well, Jalen Carter, Yeah, JP,

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen all of the above. Arguably the best player in draft.

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<v Speaker 3>He is. We're gonna say goodbye to you. John. We

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<v Speaker 3>have what in the business is called an upgrade. Jaguars Owners.

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<v Speaker 4>I will defer.

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<v Speaker 2>It just changes everything. When you finally see grass on

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<v Speaker 2>the field. What a process that bitch.

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<v Speaker 11>I know, it's really cool, and it's even better kind

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<v Speaker 11>of walking through it than you know, what a difference

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<v Speaker 11>it's gonna make. So I'm really excited. Obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>You go back to nineteen ninety five and I remember

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<v Speaker 2>practicing and doing conditioning on the outfield of the old

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<v Speaker 2>baseball park, and now all of a sudden, this wonderful facility.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we're come along way with baby.

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<v Speaker 2>We certainly have all right, So a long way from

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<v Speaker 2>the last two years at the number one overall pick,

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<v Speaker 2>and now after the playoff run shot, it's the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fourth overall pick. But are your nerves still the same

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<v Speaker 2>going into a draft weekend? How do you feel going

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<v Speaker 2>into this year's.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, no nerves, A very calm. I am super relaxed guy.

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<v Speaker 11>I might as well be in a zen yoga camp

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<v Speaker 11>right now. But you know, it's so different because I

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<v Speaker 11>think we have a great team and when you look

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 11>at it, even through free agency, we've lost one starter,

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 11>and so.

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 6>You feel really good with all the choices.

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 11>We have, even though we're going to be picking twenty

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 11>fourth in the first round.

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:16.959
<v Speaker 2>You got to feel good about where you are as

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>an organization, with your coach, your quarterback, your general manager.

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 2>It's got to give you a lot of confidence with

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 2>where you're at and where you're headed.

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 11>Absolutely, I think those are the three key pieces.

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 6>In modern NFL, and we got them all.

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 11>So it's now about how do you tweak the roster

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 11>and make it a shape better, a little bit better

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 11>every day.

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Jack Warzona shod Khan is with us. We've heard this

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 2>word culture a lot in the last couple of years

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 2>around here. Certainly going into last season, getting things right again,

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 2>earning the trust of the organization. Doug Peterson talked about that,

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 2>certainly he's done that, but now you've got to build

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 2>upon the baseline. That culture, that baseline, the playoff mentality

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 2>is the base for what this team should be moving forward.

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 2>How important our culture fits on a draft weekend like this.

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 11>I think obviously very important And Trent I think has

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 11>been quoted that, you know, the players in the draft,

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 11>we got one hundred and twenty seven we think would

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 11>be ideal. But you know, culture is an overused word

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 11>until you kind of experience it and then you say, oh,

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 11>oh yeah, I see what a difference of culture makes

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 11>like now, you know, in the hallway today, I was

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 11>waiting for the meeting to see the players coming in,

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 11>how enthusiastic they are, the fist pumping and talking to

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 11>I think we have three new coaches and you know,

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 11>they've had careers obviously besides Jacksonville, and you know, to

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 11>get their insight that this is so different from wherever

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 11>they've been. What a great experience for them. So this

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 11>is very different even for the Jaguars. For me, obviously,

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 11>you know after eleven years, is I mean I can

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 11>you can feel the shift. It's it's much more than

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 11>a phraser lingo and one of.

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 2>The shifts really, the draft for many years has represented hope,

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, that you get better, and this year the

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 2>feeling I think is so much different and that hey,

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 2>look like you talked about, you're just looking to tweak,

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.879
<v Speaker 2>to add little components of your to your roster because

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:25.240
<v Speaker 2>you just feel good about where you are as a football.

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:29.320
<v Speaker 11>Team, absolutely, and how you get a little bit better

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 11>depth not necessarily starters who are going to come in

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 11>and be air salvation, but more like you know, who

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 11>are going to be there for us for the long haul.

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Jaguars oona shot con is with us. Take us into

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 2>some of those pre draft prep meetings. I know you

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.320
<v Speaker 2>were involved a little bit in some of those, probably

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 2>more than a little bit, I'm guessing, So you know,

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:52.800
<v Speaker 2>take it. Give us what you can about that process.

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Working with Trent and Doug and their staffs collectively.

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 6>Well, first of all, it's you know, highly collaborative.

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 11>If you've been in the draft room now, it's like,

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 11>you know, I might as well be Houston, NASA, you know,

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 11>with all the screens. But more importantly, the really the

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 11>electronic the database that you can imagine and who are

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 11>the players drafted with these attributes and boom they show

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 11>up complete with the cliffs And I'm talking about historically,

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 11>so you can compare a current maybe possible player to

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 11>historical who has success didn't have it. So you take

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:33.879
<v Speaker 11>that whole collaborative process, and then you get into where

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 11>we're going to be picking and who might be on

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 11>and how would we decide, you know, number of players,

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 11>whoever's on the.

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 6>Board, who we would pick?

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:44.800
<v Speaker 11>How you prioritize you want to have as much of

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 11>this done before you get into the live action logs.

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I think when they picked you they were still using

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 2>a chalkboard to make the selections, right, maybe not quite.

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you that it was Hall Tagley nicely

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Pete Rose, Yeah, yeah, so it was a while back.

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:06.400
<v Speaker 2>It has been a little bit, all right, So tonight

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 2>should be packed house here Daily's place, rain or shine.

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 2>The rain is stopped now, which is great news, but

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 2>fifty five hundred expected in this place tonight. Certainly we

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 2>know what this place has been to the organization in

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.919
<v Speaker 2>the city since it's been built. But having this scene

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 2>tonight's shot, I know you have to be excited.

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 11>About that, Absolutely, I am, and I think this venue

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 11>has really I think it's served the city very well.

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 11>It's hurtainly has served the Jaguars, you know, everything we

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 11>hoped and really more.

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 2>When Kenny Chesney was awesome here not long ago, by

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 2>the way, that was an incredible concert.

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 3>Love it, Shot, thanks for the time, really appreciate it.

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 6>Good luck Lace to be here and looking forward to tonight.

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Jaguars owner Shot Con with us.

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Of course, we take a live look now inside Daily's

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Place just downstairs and seven o'clock. The gates open tonight

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 2>for the Duval Draft Party twenty twenty three, and the

0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Jaguars have the twenty fourth overall pick in the NFL

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Draft coming up tonight, and of course eight other picks

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 2>over the weekend. Always good to hear from JAG's owner

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Shod Con.

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.359
<v Speaker 3>Excited. Yeah, he said he could be in a yoga

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:10.800
<v Speaker 3>studio right now. That's how relaxed.

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but don't let him fool you, JP, because you

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 2>know I asked him before we went on the air,

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I said, to you excited, he said, if you've got

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 2>blood in your veins, you're excited, Okay, because that's the

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 2>reality I mean this is again, and I keep using

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 2>this term. The life blood of every franchise is the draft,

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 2>and the only way that you can be consistently good

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 2>is that you draft and develop and retain. And so

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 2>this draft is important just like every other draft for

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 2>this franchise, and especially because now that some of the

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 2>money that has been spent in recent years in free agency,

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 2>sometimes your only option at getting better or to keep

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 2>the roster at a solid position is through the draft. Yeah,

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 2>draft and develop, you gotta have that, retain and retain,

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 2>that's what that's what we have, all of those terms.

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 2>And we heard from Trim Blake earlier today in our

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:03.280
<v Speaker 2>draft room conversation. Devon Hamilton was retained and extended today

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:05.839
<v Speaker 2>and I thought he took big steps this past year.

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Credit to him because he really worked hard. But that's

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 2>a big point for this organization is that that kind

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 2>of sets a tone I think for guys when they

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 2>show up here and you perform and you improve as

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 2>it goes along, you get rewarded at the end. Well,

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:20.879
<v Speaker 2>and look, you know he's gonna make a lot of money,

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 2>but you know a lot of money in the National

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Football League is what you earn. You know, if you're

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 2>a good football player, you know, the question now becomes,

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:31.240
<v Speaker 2>do some of these younger players that you drafted last

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:34.320
<v Speaker 2>year take that next step for this football team, because

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:37.360
<v Speaker 2>this football team is going to need that young that

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 2>you the second year players to make a big advancement

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 2>for this team to have the success that they want

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 2>to have this year. We earned from Daniel Jeremiah NFL

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Network a little bit earlier, Charles Davis as well. Joe

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Klatt will have coverage on NFL Network. He's also with

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports. Brian Sexton and visited with him in Kansas

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 2>City earlier this week and asked him about the tackles

0:38:58.120 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 2>in the draft.

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 12>I do think that there's going to be a run

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:04.359
<v Speaker 12>on the top tackles ahead of them. So if they

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 12>wanted one of those guys or coveted one of those guys,

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 12>and I'm talking about Paris Johnson and Broderick Jones and

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 12>Darnell Wright, if they coveted one of those guys, they

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 12>might have to move up, but they don't have to

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 12>move up to get what they need. You talked about corner,

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 12>you talked about tight end. All of those players I

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:20.799
<v Speaker 12>think will be there.

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 3>We'll see what happens.

0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, as we talked, the quarterbacks could go early, that

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:28.800
<v Speaker 2>could slide some guys down. If there's the run middle

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 2>of the round, let's see what happens. But the Jaguars

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 2>currently at twenty four. It's something interesting and just there

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 2>with a question with Brian that Scronsky was never mentioned,

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:42.879
<v Speaker 2>correct from the Northwestern, Okay, Northwestern who was tackled. Many

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 2>people thought that he was gonna be the best tackle,

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 2>the first lineman off the board in this draft class.

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 2>But watching this film, I don't see him being a tackle.

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I think this guy is a guard. And well, you know,

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:57.799
<v Speaker 2>he reminds me of In fact, I wrote it down

0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 2>because he reminds me of Jonah Williams, who was an

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Alabama guy the Bengals drafted in the first round. And

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 2>the Bengals just drafted or excuse me to signing free

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:09.359
<v Speaker 2>agency from Kansas City, the left tackle that they had there,

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.319
<v Speaker 2>and then they're talking about moving Jonah Williams to right

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 2>tackle to.

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:13.799
<v Speaker 3>Compete over there.

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>If you're gonna play left tackle in the National Football League,

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:19.800
<v Speaker 2>you gotta have length, okay, and Skeronsky does not have

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of length, and then you better have length

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:23.799
<v Speaker 2>to play left tackle, because you're gonna be facing guys

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 2>like Tyree Wilson who is six foot six, six foot seven,

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and seventy five pounds and has thirty eight

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.399
<v Speaker 2>thirty nine inch sleeve length. And if you have JP,

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 2>it's imagine trying to pass block like this. Okay, if

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to pass block you like this with the

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 2>old dinosaur arms. So t rex doesn't work. And it's

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 2>an exaggeration because Kronsky has like thirty three arms, but JP,

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 2>he's got thirty three inch arms. Okay, I can touch

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:49.320
<v Speaker 2>you from here because I have thirty eight inch sleeves. Okay,

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 2>you've got to have the length to play left tackle. Wow,

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 2>that's a that's a heck of a reach by you

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 2>literally trying to block this t Rex over here trying

0:40:58.239 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 2>to block me.

0:40:59.360 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 3>All right.

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 2>So breaking news now in the National Football League, some

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 2>big quarterback news. The last day, of course, with Aaron

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Rodgers officially traded from the Package to the Jets. But

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 2>today the Ravens have reached a five year deal with

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson.

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Good for them.

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, Lamar Jackson's an exciting, dynamic player. He

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 2>hasn't been able to stay healthy a ton. But I

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:26.360
<v Speaker 2>think with the recent contract that was signed in Philadelphia,

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:30.919
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe tempered Lamar Jackson's expectation because Jalen Hurts

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't get a completely guaranteed contract and that's what he

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 2>was looking for, and that's not what the market was

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 2>going to bear for him, especially with the number of

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:40.239
<v Speaker 2>games that he missed. But I'm glad because I think

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson should be a raven and he's a tremendous

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 2>football player, and it's good for them now they can

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 2>move forward and concentrate on other things and other aspects

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 2>of their organization. The latest reporting, no official numbers are

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:58.720
<v Speaker 2>out yet, but Justina Anderson is reporting the league sources

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 2>that of the total guarantee portion as one hundred and

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 2>eighty five million dollars for Lamar Jackson's and I'm sure

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:07.399
<v Speaker 2>that Look, the recent contract by Jillen Hursts, I'm sure

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 2>was a little bit, you know. And here's the weird thing.

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Lamar Jackson is his own agent. I'm it's right,

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 2>that's that's odd. I mean, it's very odd. And I'm

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:17.359
<v Speaker 2>not saying that he can't do it. And I'm sure

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 2>that he's getting a lot of great advice and should

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 2>get a lot of great advice. But that's a weird

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 2>position to be in if you're doing your own contract.

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 2>A little more on the Aaron Rodgers situation. Officially traded

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>from the Packers to the Jets. He was actually on

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:35.800
<v Speaker 2>the practice field today. His intro press conference was yesterday.

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:39.399
<v Speaker 2>The Jets got Rogers and the twenty twenty three first

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 2>round pick and a twenty twenty three fifth round pick.

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 2>The Packers get the first round pick this year, number thirteen,

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 2>a second round pick this year, a sixth round pick

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 2>this year, and a conditional second round pick next year

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:54.839
<v Speaker 2>that couldn't become a first If Rogers plays sixty five

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 2>percent of the plays this season, that's gonna be an

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 2>interesting watch. You know, will airon Rogers be committed to

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 2>the organization As far as the practice days that are

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 2>not mandatory.

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 3>I think that he needs to.

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Commit himself to the Jets organization and show up for

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 2>all those things if he wants to end up making

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot of friends in the locker room. Those are

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 2>the biggest NFL news, of course, Quarterbacks Lamar Jackson and

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers are now apparently settled in their respective places,

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:26.399
<v Speaker 2>and they were only a couple of weeks probably away

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 2>from the schedule release. That's right around the corner too well.

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:33.719
<v Speaker 2>And look, the NFL, I'm sure was looking for some

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 2>resolution to both of these situations because that impacts the schedule.

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, if Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback of

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 2>the New York Jets, I mean you're talking about the

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Jets having some serious primetime football games. If Lamar Jackson

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 2>is the quarterback of the Ravens, that's a consideration with

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 2>schedule makers as well, you know. So I'm glad that

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:56.240
<v Speaker 2>both of them were resolved. And I guarantee that Roger

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Goodell and the league office was they might have been

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 2>putting a little phone call in here or there to

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:06.240
<v Speaker 2>both organizations while all three organizations, the Ravens, the Jets,

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and the Packers to make sure that this stuff got

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 2>moved along. Because look, you want to have all the

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 2>focus tonight on the draft. You don't want to have

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 2>speculation about Aaron Rodgers or Lamar Jackson could he end

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 2>up with another football team. This makes the focused on

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 2>what's happening tonight, and that's the NFL Draft and that's

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 2>where the focus should be at well. A lot of

0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 2>AFC South teams have some draft equity high in this

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 2>first round, and most of them, if not all, three

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:38.839
<v Speaker 2>of the other ones, could be looking at quarterback early

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 2>in this draft. Of course, the Jaguars are the best

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 2>set up at that position with the Trevor Lawrence. Let's

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:46.759
<v Speaker 2>see what happens at Indianapolis. Certainly Houston at number two

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 2>could be in play. They also have another first round pick,

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:53.320
<v Speaker 2>and Tennessee do they go for a quarterback?

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 3>What's the future hold there? With a new decision maker

0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 3>in charge.

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 2>In Nashville, you could have Trevor Lawrence and three rookies

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Speaker 2>and the rest of the AFC South. I mean it

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 2>could be that, and I think that that's a real

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 2>realistic expectation. I think it would take Tennessee maybe needing

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 2>to trade up.

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Maybe not.

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 2>If Hendon Hooker is a guy, he may end up

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 2>being there where they're at, but it may require them

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 2>to trade up. I think Indianapolis is locked in on

0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:26.279
<v Speaker 2>a quarterback. I think it probably is Levice, and we

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 2>know that Houston is a possibility.

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 3>I think CJ. Young's CJ. Trout or.

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Buying moreph the two of them together. But I think

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:44.680
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be very interesting. You know, we haven't

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:47.839
<v Speaker 2>really mentioned quarterbacks yet, but the quarterbacks, the only part

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.840
<v Speaker 2>that we mentioned about them is that having four or

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 2>five quarterbacks that could get you know, that could end

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:56.920
<v Speaker 2>up getting drafted prior to the Jaguars pick at twenty

0:45:56.960 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 2>four means that there's gonna be a push of guys

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:04.280
<v Speaker 2>that normally would not be available with that talent level

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 2>that the Jaguars are going to be able to pick

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>from it twenty four. And that's a good thing, the

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 2>more quarterbacks, because look, the reality is is that teams

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 2>are going to reach for quarterbacks and that's perfect. That's

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 2>exactly what you want if you're a team that already

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:20.600
<v Speaker 2>has a quarterback, because it pushes more talent down to

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 2>you at your picks. And so the Jaguars in a

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:27.240
<v Speaker 2>great position. Every franchise wants to be in the position

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:30.800
<v Speaker 2>that the Kansas City Chiefs are, the Buffalo Bills, the

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Jacksonville Jaguars, the Los Angeles Chargers, and that's the position

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:37.800
<v Speaker 2>of feeling that you have or knowing that you have

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 2>a franchise quarterback, because it makes it a lot easier

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 2>to draft players when you're in that situation, Yeah, and

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 2>you better have one just to compete in the AFC.

0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned some of those AFC teams. It is oh

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Steers Row deep, It's deep in the NFC. I mean,

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 2>come on, NFC, where are you at? I mean, you

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 2>got to get some quarterbacks. And here's the crazy thing.

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Is the the NFC going to add a quarterback this year?

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean think about it. I mean, has there been

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 2>any talk with the four top quarterbacks in this year's draft?

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Has there been any talk about an NFC team possibly

0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 2>getting one of those four?

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:16.800
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:20.719
<v Speaker 2>No, So the NFC is going to continue to be

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 2>quarterback deficial. Remember the Bears traded out, they traded back

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:27.600
<v Speaker 2>so with Carolina. Yeah, so because they like their guy

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 2>fields well, panthers and pants. But I mean that's one

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:37.719
<v Speaker 2>why it's just amazing to me that how can you

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:42.759
<v Speaker 2>have that disparity between conferences? I mean really, I mean,

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:45.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Jalen Hurts is a tremendous player. Don't don't

0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 2>get me wrong.

0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:46.879
<v Speaker 3>I love him.

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:50.080
<v Speaker 2>He's an excellent football player. But now, I mean Aaron

0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Rodgers left the NFC and now is a part of

0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 2>the AFC. Got to keep up with the j AFC

0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:59.399
<v Speaker 2>Quarterback League right now. Hey Busy nine, Tonight's final moments

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:01.879
<v Speaker 2>of Jaguars Happy. We're glad you've joined us on ten

0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 2>ten am and Jaguars dot com and Jaguars Social media, Twitter, Facebook,

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 2>and YouTube. Tonight coming up at seven thirty, we'll have

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 2>our pre draft show on Jaguars dot Com. We'll count

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 2>down to the draft, plenty of special guests, plenty of

0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 2>content and get you ready for the draft today to

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:17.840
<v Speaker 2>o'clock tonight.

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:21.280
<v Speaker 3>You, Frank Frangi and who else is on the Draft

0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 3>radio show tonight? One time?

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Is all that a Well, I think you're gonna come

0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 2>on and visit with us for a little bit, so,

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's a good thing. But you know, I

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:30.680
<v Speaker 2>think we're gonna have different people on looking forward to it,

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:33.719
<v Speaker 2>looking forward to the draft. I've become a little bit

0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 2>of a draft junkie just because you know, you watch

0:48:35.640 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 2>film on guys. You want to see where kind of

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:41.600
<v Speaker 2>where your assessment lines up with some of the teams picking,

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, and just let me throw this one last

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 2>position goes out there because because we haven't talked about

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:49.440
<v Speaker 2>it yet, and I can't believe JP you didn't have

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:52.439
<v Speaker 2>it on the list. It is to talk about tight ends.

0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:55.759
<v Speaker 2>Tight end, we have not talked about tight ends. You

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:57.960
<v Speaker 2>think it's in play at twenty four. I think it's

0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 2>absolutely in play at twenty four because kin Kid is

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 2>a great receiving tight end. Mayor is a great He

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 2>reminds me of Jason Witten, the guy that played it

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:09.799
<v Speaker 2>for the Dallas Cowboys for so long.

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 3>Excellent receiver, excellent blocker. Love that guy.

0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:16.400
<v Speaker 2>And then Georgia of course has Darnell Washington, who's like

0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Land of the Giants tight end.

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:21.319
<v Speaker 3>And you already picked a cornerback at twenty four.

0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:23.239
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, but I mean, tight end is

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:27.799
<v Speaker 2>in play, and if Michael Mahyer is there, it would

0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:32.120
<v Speaker 2>be hard not to draft him. He's young and he's

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 2>still I mean he's young, but he's such a physical

0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 2>presence in the game, both as a blocker and as

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:42.800
<v Speaker 2>a receiver at a lot of positions.

0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 3>We'll see what happens tonight.

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