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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April twenty seventh, Happy Draft Day. This

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Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hour. And now a guy who's anything

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Speaker 1: but mister irrelevant, Jay P.

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Speaker 2: Chaggery, and welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on Draft Night

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. Round one coming up at eight o'clock

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Speaker 2: Eastern time. The Jaguars had the twenty fourth overall pick.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching us on Jaguars dot Com or Jagsocial media,

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Speaker 2: it's a live look inside Daily's Place, and we welcome

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Speaker 2: you inside Daily's Place. We've got a busy hour ahead.

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Speaker 2: Here's what's coming up on Jaguars Happy Hour. The NFL

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Speaker 2: Draft is here for twenty twenty three. We'll hear from

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Speaker 2: Jaguars analyst Jeff Loghman coming up, Jaguars dot Com.

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Speaker 3: Senior writer John Ozer, and a draft a conversation.

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Speaker 2: Just moments ago, I caught up with general manager Trent Bulky.

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Speaker 2: We will hear that conversation in just a few moments. Well,

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Speaker 2: Jeff Logoman, John Osier with me.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: We're on the second level at Daily's Place. The gates

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Speaker 2: open at seven o'clock tonight, and John, it's always an

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Speaker 2: exciting evening. Round one, no matter where the Jaguars are picking.

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Speaker 4: Well, you just talk with Trent who they taking.

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Speaker 3: We'll find. I don't think we're gonna find.

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Speaker 5: One of the conversation is about, on a serious note,

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Speaker 5: I think this is I say, a benchmark draft, but

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Speaker 5: an important draft because it's the first of what I

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Speaker 5: think is going to be the Jaguars drafts new era,

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Speaker 5: meaning for the last ten or twelve years, they've picked

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Speaker 5: in the top ten all but one year. I think

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Speaker 5: now you're gonna see more drafts like this, more pre

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Speaker 5: draft lead up like this. And Jeff, you have to

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Speaker 5: be able to draft well in the bottom quarter of

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Speaker 5: the first round if you're going to be a draft

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Speaker 5: and developed team over the long haul, and this is

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Speaker 5: the first time they get a chance to do that.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 2: I've said many times that the draft is the lifeblood

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Speaker 2: of any franchise, and a lot of people think, well,

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Speaker 2: you can't get that good of a player when you're

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Speaker 2: drafting in the bottom third of the and that's not

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Speaker 2: the case. I mean, there's good football players throughout the draft.

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Speaker 2: You just got to do your homework and find good

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Speaker 2: football players. Now, the interesting thing about this draft to

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Speaker 2: me is is that if you look at all the

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Speaker 2: different mock drafts. They're all over the map. I mean

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Speaker 2: literally all over the map. There's probably about eighteen different

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Speaker 2: players that are mocked where the Jaguars are picking. And

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Speaker 2: to be honest with you guys, some years I've got

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Speaker 2: kind of an idea, you know, but maybe narrowing it

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Speaker 2: down to two or three players, I've got absolutely no

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Speaker 2: idea for two reasons. One, I think this is a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a question mark draft because there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of unknowns about where guys are at and where

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Speaker 2: they're stacked at. But then also, the Jaguars are very

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Speaker 2: close to the vest I mean, and right now, it's

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Speaker 2: hard to kind of get a little bit of a feeling.

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Speaker 3: For where they're going to go, even offensively or defensively.

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Speaker 2: I've got no idea, but I can tell you there's

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Speaker 2: some really good football players that are going to be

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Speaker 3: Let's here.

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Speaker 2: We'll hear from Frin Balke coming up in just a

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Speaker 2: few moments, and we'll dig into some of those aspect

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Speaker 2: some of those names a little bit later on the show.

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Speaker 2: But a report this morning from JOHNSHIPLEYVESI dot com of

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Speaker 2: a pending Cam Robinson's suspension for a violation of the

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Speaker 2: performance enhancing Drug policy. Mike Deroco of ESPN reported that

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Speaker 2: the second sample will be tested to confirm what it

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Speaker 2: is and the length of the suspension. There are reports

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Speaker 2: he could lose nearly nine hundred thousand dollars per game out. Well,

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Speaker 2: the team is known about this for a while now.

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Speaker 2: This is not a surprise this morning for the organization,

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Speaker 2: So no big shake up of the draft board, but

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Speaker 2: logs this is obviously a developing so we will see

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Speaker 2: what happens in the future with it. Not ideal for

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars. But should it change anything in draft press? Well,

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Speaker 2: I think it always. You always have to take everything

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Speaker 2: into consideration. Something like this. Absolutely, you take this in

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Speaker 2: a consideration. Now, let's go back to this sample that

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Speaker 2: if something hits on A, okay, they go back and

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Speaker 2: retest the B part of that sample, which is the

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Speaker 3: So they want to.

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Speaker 2: Confirm so that what they're looking for is confirmation that

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Speaker 2: that's what the sample B is that you were talking about.

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Speaker 5: Well, you hope that it doesn't influence their decision in

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Speaker 4: I know they have taken any.

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Speaker 5: Consideration, but you hope, and I think Tran Balki sees

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Speaker 5: it this way that you are drafting for the long

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Speaker 5: I do believe with this class where it lines up

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Speaker 5: I do think offensive tackle was in play anyway. If

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Speaker 5: the suspension. I think offensive tackle would also be a

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Speaker 3: Or you've got a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so tackle is always in play and you

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Speaker 2: lost ja Won Taylor. Look, you signed in free agency

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Speaker 2: Sure he could, and six games typical is typically what

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Speaker 2: we've seen with ped suspensions around the league in the past.

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Speaker 2: Will that in fact be it for Cam Robinson? We

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Speaker 2: don't know until the league makes an announcement. But tackle

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Speaker 2: there's some really good tackles that are available. And also

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Speaker 2: there's some really good right tackles that are available in

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Speaker 3: We'll discuss some of those guys a little bit later tonight.

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Speaker 2: Now back to draft day and general manager Trent Bulkey.

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Speaker 2: Just a few moments ago, I sat down with him

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Speaker 2: in the Jaguars draft room and asked him, now almost

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Speaker 2: a decade of doing this as a GM in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: what's this draft day routine.

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Speaker 7: It's been the same all ten years, I think, you know.

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Speaker 7: I get up early, we walked through some of the

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Speaker 7: going through some things on the board. The board's been set.

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Speaker 7: You know, we haven't changed anything. We just kind of

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Speaker 2: Are their nerves still? Is there anxiety? Is there a

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Speaker 8: Know, not really.

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Speaker 7: You know, I think we've put in a lot of time,

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Speaker 7: a lot of effort that went into this, you know, coaches, personnel, staff,

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Speaker 7: There's been a lot of hours that we sorted through

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 7: Now it's more just kind of the anxiety, the anxiousness

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Speaker 2: You said last week, you're down to three or four

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Speaker 7: Well, that's already been decided, you know, we have a

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Speaker 7: pecking order. Coach and I met with with Shad last night,

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Speaker 8: Today isn't the day to debate who you're gonna go.

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Speaker 7: After, right, we have three or four guys that we

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Speaker 7: you know, let's face it.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you've got to be prepared for anything.

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Speaker 7: But we've got a group of guys that were really

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Speaker 2: How wild could it get at the top just seeing

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Speaker 2: all these reports. I know you're not a big Twitter guy,

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Speaker 2: but all that stuff combined the last day or two

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Speaker 2: before the draft.

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Speaker 3: Can be chaos. Is that reality tonight?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Everyone thought it was last year and very little went on,

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Speaker 7: you know, so who knows?

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 7: That's the great thing about the draft, right, everything that happens.

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Speaker 7: Nobody can really plan out. You really don't know until

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Speaker 7: you're on the clock a lot of times whether you're

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Speaker 8: And it's no different for any other team. You know.

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Speaker 2: Part of the draft process is bringing those drafted players

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Speaker 2: Devona Hamilton signed that was announced today extended draft pick

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Speaker 2: here has worked his way up and really has been

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Speaker 2: rewarded with a deal long term. And that's really the

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Speaker 2: goal of the organization, right to get these draft picks

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Speaker 2: to stick around for a while.

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Speaker 7: You want to be a homegrown football team as much

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Speaker 7: as you can, and we've been pretty fortunate the last

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Speaker 7: couple of years. We've gotten some really good quality free

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Speaker 7: But the philosophy of this team, this organization is going

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Speaker 7: to be draft and retained. And you know, Devon has

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Speaker 8: A byproduct of that process.

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Speaker 7: You know, he's a great culture fit, He's an excellent

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Speaker 8: Scheme we run.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't say enough good things about him in

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Speaker 7: the contract that he signed earned.

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Speaker 2: This is the last draft in this room, because next

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Speaker 2: year you'll be in the football building.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 7: Well, you know this is a great room, it really is.

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Speaker 7: We were talking to the ownership about it last night. Very

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Speaker 7: few have this kind of space. We got three full

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Speaker 7: screen videos going on. We can do a lot of

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Speaker 7: things and here from a technology standpoint, the new one's

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Speaker 7: going to be special though too.

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Speaker 2: That's Trent Bulky Jaguars general manager in the draft room man,

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars have nine picks in their pocket over the weekend. Well,

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Speaker 2: if we know anything about Trent Bulke's draft history, he

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Speaker 2: has been willing to move a lot in the drafts

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Speaker 2: he has controlled. He's made twenty three draft day trades first, second,

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Speaker 2: or third day. We'll see if that trend continues. Anything

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Speaker 2: stand out there.

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Speaker 5: John Well, I'd love to see him take those Day

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Speaker 5: three picks, package them up and take them all and

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Speaker 5: move into Round two JP and get us out of

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Speaker 9: Impossible to predict, you know. So I think there's gonna

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Speaker 3: They'll give you a name. Roley Moss at Iowa, a

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Speaker 2: That just I mean his effortless playing man coverage, and

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Speaker 2: OTAs and training camp, and he said something that is

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Speaker 2: just so true, and it's a philosophy that you got

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Speaker 2: to have when you're looking at personality. Said, look, guys

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Speaker 2: that have traits in college, those traits will carry over

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Speaker 2: into the NFL. So in other words, if a guy

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Speaker 2: has done it for a long period of time, he's

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Speaker 2: been available, and he's been powerful, then the chances of

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Speaker 2: him doing the same exact thing at the level in

448
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Speaker 2: the NFL is more likely than a guy that you're

449
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Speaker 2: trying to project that's been a one year wonder. This

450
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Speaker 2: guy has been doing it as for a long period

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Speaker 2: of time. When you watch him against all the good

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Speaker 2: players in that sec he was excellent, And.

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Speaker 5: You talk about a guy who indeed checks everybody. I

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Speaker 5: think it's forty two starts over four years at Tennessee,

455
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Speaker 5: forty seven games, which again that speaks to the reliability

456
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Speaker 5: Big Conference has played left and right tackle. To me,

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Speaker 5: this is one of the guys you know behind the curtain.

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Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 4: I pre write three or four that I think might

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Speaker 4: be guys.

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Speaker 5: This is one of the ones that I think makes

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Speaker 5: so much sense that I aan ahead and pre road.

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Speaker 4: It's a great story. JP you look for to wait

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Speaker 4: to read as a man, but he is a man.

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Speaker 5: It all makes sense, especially when you consider that Walker

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Speaker 5: Little probably is a little more natural at left tackle.

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Speaker 4: Eventually.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what happens with Cam after this season,

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Speaker 5: but Walker left tackle, this kid at right tackle, where

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Speaker 5: he's natural. That sort of lines up with what you

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Speaker 5: see some of the Tea leaves being. It makes sense

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Speaker 5: of twenty four to me.

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Speaker 3: And just because he's more of a right tackle.

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Speaker 2: The best left tackle in the draft is is Paris Johnson,

475
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Speaker 2: junior at Ohio State. You know people are wondering. I

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Speaker 2: mean because look, I mean, if that guy's available at

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Speaker 2: twenty four, he could be an option too if they're

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Speaker 2: gonna end up going offensive lineman. And Paris Johnson's got

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Speaker 2: the athleticism, he's got the length, like the way he

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Speaker 2: plays the game. And by the way, john when you

481
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Speaker 2: watch Ohio State, their offensive line has three possible first

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Speaker 2: round draft picks. I mean, that's just it's like watching Alabama,

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Speaker 2: House State.

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Speaker 3: Georgia's like crazy. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The right tackle has like the longest wing span in

486
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Speaker 2: the history the Senior Bowl. Dwan Jones I mean, the

487
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Speaker 2: guy is just a freak. He's kind of similar to

488
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Speaker 2: Darnell right in a lot of ways, and then how

489
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Speaker 2: he plays the game a little nasty.

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Speaker 3: He's big and.

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Speaker 2: He's powerful, So two right tackles that are similar. But

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Speaker 2: Darnell writes the man.

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Speaker 5: One thing that speaks to Jeff's point about the potential

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Speaker 5: for somebody like that to slide. Usually when you say

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Speaker 5: that before the draft, you sort of say it with yeah,

496
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Speaker 5: but it's not going to happen. From talking to people

497
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Speaker 5: around the league and from reading about what's going on

498
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Speaker 5: this year, there is enough disagreement around the league about

499
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Speaker 5: who should be where that pretty much in every mock

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Speaker 5: draft you follow, there is one guy who slides to

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Speaker 5: twenty three, twenty four that everybody else in a normal.

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Speaker 4: Year would be saying, well, no way he makes it there.

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Speaker 5: So could this be a year where the chaos at

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Speaker 5: the top of the draft benefits the Jaguars with some

505
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Speaker 5: elite player. Usually I would say it's great to talk

506
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Speaker 5: about not going to happen.

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Speaker 4: Maybe this year is the year it happens.

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Speaker 2: Well, And here's something else to remember, you're talking about

509
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Speaker 2: four quarterbacks. They're going to get drafted and make four

510
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Speaker 2: of the Jaguars, maybe five five, which pushes all the

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Speaker 2: talent that's at all the other positions down to the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: So what John is saying is is dead on the money,

513
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Speaker 2: and especially with the quarterback focus in this draft, it's

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Speaker 2: a great chance of that happening.

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Speaker 3: Well back in the moment.

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Speaker 2: We've got plenty ahead talking more prospects when we come back.

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Speaker 2: As Jaguars Happy Hour from Daily's place on the Jaguars

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Speaker 2: Digital Network.

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Speaker 10: When we go back to the playoff game and it's

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Speaker 10: half time and he's had a rough first ask to

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Speaker 10: put it mildly, and the head coach is just like,

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Speaker 10: he's fine, we just gotta do this, We got to

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Speaker 10: do that, and then it all came together. I don't

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Speaker 10: know that I saw a better moment in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Last Charles Davis, CBS Sports NFL Network love coverage of

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Speaker 2: the draft coming up, and of course, if you're watching

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Speaker 2: on Jaguars dot Com, alive. Look inside Daily's Place just

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Speaker 2: outside of the bank. It should be a packed house tonight,

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Speaker 2: and rain or shine, we'll have it. Gates open at

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Speaker 2: seven o'clock for the Duval Draft party and welcome back

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Speaker 2: at Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadwick, John Ozer and Jeff Logoman.

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Speaker 3: Good to hear from Charles Davis.

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Speaker 2: The full interview available on Jaguars dot com and the

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Speaker 2: Official Jaguars Podcast Net. We're talking about the quarterback play

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Speaker 2: in the playoff game, of course, last year at Carter's game.

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Speaker 2: That's a fantastic memory, of course, and it's the reason

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars are drafting twenty four. They got to the

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Speaker 2: playoffs and they lost in the divisional rounds, so here

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Speaker 2: they are. It would have been twenty five the Dolphins

545
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Speaker 2: forfeited their pick as a penalty, and now it's twenty

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Speaker 2: four in the NFL Draft tonight in round number one.

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Speaker 3: So here we go tonight, one hundred and twenty seven players.

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Speaker 2: Trent Balky said, check all the boxes for a prospect,

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Speaker 2: so you know, not three hundred and fifty or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Go to the combine. They narrow this thing down, John

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Speaker 2: to one twenty seven. It was a specific number that

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Speaker 2: Trent talked about last week, and that might have surprised

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Speaker 2: some maybe some folks who aren't following this on an

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Speaker 2: everyday basis, but that's pretty much a part for the

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Speaker 2: course number.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, to clarify a couple of things.

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Speaker 5: That doesn't mean that they only think one hundred and

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Speaker 5: twenty seven guys in this draft can play in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that that's all they studied. It doesn't

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Speaker 5: mean they've overlooked things. It means that as they've done

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Speaker 5: their draft, there's different areas of the draft, different clusters

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Speaker 5: of players around the draft first round through seventh round.

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Speaker 5: They have one hundred and twenty seven total guys that

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Speaker 5: they consider the ideal picks at those positions that they

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Speaker 5: would have won on this football team. And from everything

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Speaker 5: I've heard, Jeff, that's a very common number. One hundred

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Speaker 5: and twenty five to about one hundred and fifty of

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Speaker 5: guys do you really feel like you want? Because why

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Speaker 5: wouldn't you narrow it down to that point?

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Speaker 2: Well, and one of the reasons why that number is

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Speaker 2: what it is. You would have certain guys that wouldn't

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Speaker 2: make the list because of some type of physical condition

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Speaker 2: or injury that he's had, maybe a failed physical, and

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Speaker 2: then also some personalities that just don't fit.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: You hear Trent and Doug talking a lot about the

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Speaker 2: word culture, okay, and what they mean by that is

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Speaker 2: that the player has to have a certain personality, a

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Speaker 2: certain work ethic, and a certain way about them to

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Speaker 2: fit what they're trying to build here. And if they

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Speaker 2: don't fit that mold, they don't make that list of

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: And it may be even a couple scheme fit.

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Speaker 5: Sure, if they just don't think a guy can play

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Speaker 5: a corner in the style that they want to play,

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Speaker 5: they may just think, you know, for instance, a running

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Speaker 5: back at the top of the draft, we don't want

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Speaker 5: to invest running back at a position in the first round.

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Speaker 4: A kid from Texas.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't know how they feel about him,

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Speaker 5: but you never know if they really think, Okay, this

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Speaker 5: is just not a year we want to do this.

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Speaker 5: We need to go other areas. So there's different reasons

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Speaker 5: why guys come off the board.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I would never exclude any position because

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Speaker 2: you feel good about where you're at. Sure, because if

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden Jamier Gibbs, your guy JP at

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Speaker 2: Alabama is available in round two. Sure, that guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: It catches everything out of the backfielding. He's a great

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Speaker 2: dynamic running back. I mean, so I would never personally

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Speaker 2: disqualify a position based on where we were at from

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Speaker 2: a roster standpoint, because have you ever heard of coach say,

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Speaker 2: you know what, we got too many good tackles or

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Speaker 2: we got too many good running backs.

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Speaker 3: You never hear that.

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Speaker 2: He also said Trent Plalke last week in the Predraft

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Speaker 2: Luncher that they've got two, three four players that they

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Speaker 2: really would feel comfortably after you're there.

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Speaker 3: They should be there at twenty four.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they've mocked this thing out John so many times,

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Speaker 2: different scenarios. If this happens, then this could happen, and

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Speaker 2: then we could get down there. You really might not

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Speaker 2: know until about four or five picks above you truly

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Speaker 2: what's availed and there.

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Speaker 3: And that's really the question mark about a night like tonight.

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Speaker 4: Well, he clarified with you they have options.

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Speaker 5: If they don't they don't go that route, they won't

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Speaker 5: be stuck without a player that they think can help.

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Speaker 5: It's why I do wonder what the possibility of them

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Speaker 5: trading out of that spot are. They've never done it.

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Speaker 5: The Jaguars have never been without a first round pick.

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Speaker 5: Twenty four to thirty two is a long way to

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Speaker 5: go to get out of the first round. But considering that,

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Speaker 5: I think they want to come out of the first

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Speaker 5: two or three rounds with a tackle offense, I mean

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Speaker 5: a offensive lineman, tight end, and cornerback corner. Could they

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Speaker 5: try to come back and get those three players later

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Speaker 5: in the draft to add on somebody. I don't think so,

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Speaker 5: but maybe.

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Speaker 2: It just depends on what somebody's off yet, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's what it's all about, all right, final thought?

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Speaker 3: Pick? How about a pick for twenty four?

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Speaker 5: John real quick, I've been kind of leaning on Branch,

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Speaker 5: Brian Branch from Alabama, just because he can come in

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Speaker 5: and play Nickel move to safety later.

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Speaker 4: He makes so much sense.

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Speaker 5: I'm less passionate about that than I was yesterday. Uh,

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Speaker 5: but for now I'll go with that because that's been

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Speaker 5: my horse all on.

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Speaker 3: Jeff, oh Gosh, put you on the spot.

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Speaker 2: I'll just say I'll give you a position because I

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00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: think there's a number of guys I think corner is

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Speaker 2: gonna be the position, and I'm gonna position Jallas is

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Speaker 2: gonna slide and they're gonna grab him.

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Speaker 3: Up at twenty four. I think so you never know.

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Speaker 3: I'm going Darnell.

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Speaker 4: Right tackle Tyree Wilson's gonna slide.

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Speaker 3: How about that? Love him well, Jalen Carter, Yeah, JP,

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Speaker 3: Jalen all of the above. Arguably the best player in draft.

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Speaker 3: He is. We're gonna say goodbye to you. John. We

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Speaker 3: have what in the business is called an upgrade. Jaguars Owners.

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Speaker 3: Shot Con is gonna join us. Yes, it is.

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Speaker 4: I will defer.

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Speaker 3: That's Josh, That's Jeff Logerman. I'm j P. Shadwick.

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Speaker 2: on the Jags Digital Network. Welcome back at Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 2: Hour and a live look outside of TIAA bank Field

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Speaker 2: the Miller Electric Center. The grass is down on the

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Speaker 2: practice fields and we are closing in on the grand

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Speaker 2: opening the Jaguars to get the keys, I believe July first.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back at Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: Happy Hour from Daily's place on the other end of

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Speaker 2: tia bank Field, JP Shadrick, Jeff Logman and Jaguars owners

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Speaker 2: Shod con Nut. Let's start with that, the Miller Electric Center.

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Speaker 2: It just changes everything. When you finally see grass on

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Speaker 2: the field. What a process that bitch.

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Speaker 11: I know, it's really cool, and it's even better kind

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Speaker 11: of walking through it than you know, what a difference

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Speaker 11: it's gonna make. So I'm really excited. Obviously.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: You go back to nineteen ninety five and I remember

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Speaker 2: practicing and doing conditioning on the outfield of the old

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Speaker 2: baseball park, and now all of a sudden, this wonderful facility.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're come along way with baby.

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Speaker 2: We certainly have all right, So a long way from

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Speaker 2: the last two years at the number one overall pick,

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Speaker 2: and now after the playoff run shot, it's the twenty

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Speaker 2: fourth overall pick. But are your nerves still the same

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Speaker 2: going into a draft weekend? How do you feel going

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Speaker 2: into this year's.

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Speaker 11: Well, no nerves, A very calm. I am super relaxed guy.

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Speaker 11: I might as well be in a zen yoga camp

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Speaker 11: right now. But you know, it's so different because I

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Speaker 11: think we have a great team and when you look

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Speaker 11: at it, even through free agency, we've lost one starter,

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Speaker 11: and so.

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Speaker 6: You feel really good with all the choices.

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Speaker 11: We have, even though we're going to be picking twenty

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Speaker 11: fourth in the first round.

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Speaker 2: You got to feel good about where you are as

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Speaker 2: an organization, with your coach, your quarterback, your general manager.

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Speaker 2: It's got to give you a lot of confidence with

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Speaker 2: where you're at and where you're headed.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, I think those are the three key pieces.

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Speaker 6: In modern NFL, and we got them all.

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Speaker 11: So it's now about how do you tweak the roster

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Speaker 11: and make it a shape better, a little bit better

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Speaker 11: every day.

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Speaker 2: Jack Warzona shod Khan is with us. We've heard this

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Speaker 2: word culture a lot in the last couple of years

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00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: around here. Certainly going into last season, getting things right again,

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Speaker 2: earning the trust of the organization. Doug Peterson talked about that,

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Speaker 2: certainly he's done that, but now you've got to build

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Speaker 2: upon the baseline. That culture, that baseline, the playoff mentality

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Speaker 2: is the base for what this team should be moving forward.

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Speaker 2: How important our culture fits on a draft weekend like this.

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Speaker 11: I think obviously very important And Trent I think has

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Speaker 11: been quoted that, you know, the players in the draft,

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Speaker 11: we got one hundred and twenty seven we think would

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Speaker 11: be ideal. But you know, culture is an overused word

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Speaker 11: until you kind of experience it and then you say, oh,

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Speaker 11: oh yeah, I see what a difference of culture makes

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Speaker 11: like now, you know, in the hallway today, I was

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Speaker 11: waiting for the meeting to see the players coming in,

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Speaker 11: how enthusiastic they are, the fist pumping and talking to

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Speaker 11: I think we have three new coaches and you know,

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Speaker 11: they've had careers obviously besides Jacksonville, and you know, to

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Speaker 11: get their insight that this is so different from wherever

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Speaker 11: they've been. What a great experience for them. So this

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Speaker 11: is very different even for the Jaguars. For me, obviously,

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Speaker 11: you know after eleven years, is I mean I can

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Speaker 11: you can feel the shift. It's it's much more than

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Speaker 11: a phraser lingo and one of.

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Speaker 2: The shifts really, the draft for many years has represented hope,

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Speaker 2: you know, that you get better, and this year the

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Speaker 2: feeling I think is so much different and that hey,

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Speaker 2: look like you talked about, you're just looking to tweak,

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Speaker 2: to add little components of your to your roster because

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Speaker 2: you just feel good about where you are as a football.

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Speaker 11: Team, absolutely, and how you get a little bit better

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Speaker 11: depth not necessarily starters who are going to come in

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Speaker 11: and be air salvation, but more like you know, who

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Speaker 11: are going to be there for us for the long haul.

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Speaker 2: Jaguars oona shot con is with us. Take us into

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Speaker 2: some of those pre draft prep meetings. I know you

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Speaker 2: were involved a little bit in some of those, probably

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Speaker 2: more than a little bit, I'm guessing, So you know,

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Speaker 2: take it. Give us what you can about that process.

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Speaker 2: Working with Trent and Doug and their staffs collectively.

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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, it's you know, highly collaborative.

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Speaker 11: If you've been in the draft room now, it's like,

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Speaker 11: you know, I might as well be Houston, NASA, you know,

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Speaker 11: with all the screens. But more importantly, the really the

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Speaker 11: electronic the database that you can imagine and who are

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Speaker 11: the players drafted with these attributes and boom they show

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Speaker 11: up complete with the cliffs And I'm talking about historically,

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Speaker 11: so you can compare a current maybe possible player to

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Speaker 11: historical who has success didn't have it. So you take

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Speaker 11: that whole collaborative process, and then you get into where

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Speaker 11: we're going to be picking and who might be on

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Speaker 11: and how would we decide, you know, number of players,

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Speaker 11: whoever's on the.

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Speaker 6: Board, who we would pick?

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Speaker 11: How you prioritize you want to have as much of

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Speaker 11: this done before you get into the live action logs.

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Speaker 2: I think when they picked you they were still using

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Speaker 2: a chalkboard to make the selections, right, maybe not quite.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you that it was Hall Tagley nicely

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Speaker 2: Pete Rose, Yeah, yeah, so it was a while back.

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Speaker 2: It has been a little bit, all right, So tonight

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Speaker 2: should be packed house here Daily's place, rain or shine.

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Speaker 2: The rain is stopped now, which is great news, but

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Speaker 2: fifty five hundred expected in this place tonight. Certainly we

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Speaker 2: know what this place has been to the organization in

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Speaker 2: the city since it's been built. But having this scene

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Speaker 2: tonight's shot, I know you have to be excited.

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Speaker 11: About that, Absolutely, I am, and I think this venue

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Speaker 11: has really I think it's served the city very well.

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Speaker 11: It's hurtainly has served the Jaguars, you know, everything we

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Speaker 11: hoped and really more.

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Speaker 2: When Kenny Chesney was awesome here not long ago, by

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Speaker 2: the way, that was an incredible concert.

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Speaker 3: Love it, Shot, thanks for the time, really appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Good luck Lace to be here and looking forward to tonight.

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Speaker 3: Jaguars owner Shot Con with us.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we take a live look now inside Daily's

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Speaker 2: Place just downstairs and seven o'clock. The gates open tonight

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Speaker 2: for the Duval Draft Party twenty twenty three, and the

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Speaker 2: Jaguars have the twenty fourth overall pick in the NFL

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Speaker 2: Draft coming up tonight, and of course eight other picks

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. Always good to hear from JAG's owner

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Speaker 2: Shod Con.

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Speaker 3: Excited. Yeah, he said he could be in a yoga

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Speaker 3: studio right now. That's how relaxed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't let him fool you, JP, because you

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Speaker 2: know I asked him before we went on the air,

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Speaker 2: I said, to you excited, he said, if you've got

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Speaker 2: blood in your veins, you're excited, Okay, because that's the

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Speaker 2: reality I mean this is again, and I keep using

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Speaker 2: this term. The life blood of every franchise is the draft,

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Speaker 2: and the only way that you can be consistently good

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Speaker 2: is that you draft and develop and retain. And so

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Speaker 2: this draft is important just like every other draft for

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Speaker 2: this franchise, and especially because now that some of the

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Speaker 2: money that has been spent in recent years in free agency,

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Speaker 2: sometimes your only option at getting better or to keep

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Speaker 2: the roster at a solid position is through the draft. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: draft and develop, you gotta have that, retain and retain,

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Speaker 2: that's what that's what we have, all of those terms.

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Speaker 2: And we heard from Trim Blake earlier today in our

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Speaker 2: draft room conversation. Devon Hamilton was retained and extended today

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Speaker 2: and I thought he took big steps this past year.

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Speaker 2: Credit to him because he really worked hard. But that's

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Speaker 2: a big point for this organization is that that kind

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Speaker 2: of sets a tone I think for guys when they

816
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Speaker 2: show up here and you perform and you improve as

817
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Speaker 2: it goes along, you get rewarded at the end. Well,

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Speaker 2: and look, you know he's gonna make a lot of money,

819
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Speaker 2: but you know a lot of money in the National

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Speaker 2: Football League is what you earn. You know, if you're

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Speaker 2: a good football player, you know, the question now becomes,

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Speaker 2: do some of these younger players that you drafted last

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Speaker 2: year take that next step for this football team, because

824
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Speaker 2: this football team is going to need that young that

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Speaker 2: you the second year players to make a big advancement

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Speaker 2: for this team to have the success that they want

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Speaker 2: to have this year. We earned from Daniel Jeremiah NFL

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Speaker 2: Network a little bit earlier, Charles Davis as well. Joe

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Speaker 2: Klatt will have coverage on NFL Network. He's also with

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports. Brian Sexton and visited with him in Kansas

831
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Speaker 2: City earlier this week and asked him about the tackles

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Speaker 2: in the draft.

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Speaker 12: I do think that there's going to be a run

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Speaker 12: on the top tackles ahead of them. So if they

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Speaker 12: wanted one of those guys or coveted one of those guys,

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Speaker 12: and I'm talking about Paris Johnson and Broderick Jones and

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Speaker 12: Darnell Wright, if they coveted one of those guys, they

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Speaker 12: might have to move up, but they don't have to

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Speaker 12: move up to get what they need. You talked about corner,

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Speaker 12: you talked about tight end. All of those players I

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Speaker 12: think will be there.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, as we talked, the quarterbacks could go early, that

844
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Speaker 2: could slide some guys down. If there's the run middle

845
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Speaker 2: of the round, let's see what happens. But the Jaguars

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Speaker 2: currently at twenty four. It's something interesting and just there

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Speaker 2: with a question with Brian that Scronsky was never mentioned,

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Speaker 2: correct from the Northwestern, Okay, Northwestern who was tackled. Many

849
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Speaker 2: people thought that he was gonna be the best tackle,

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Speaker 2: the first lineman off the board in this draft class.

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Speaker 2: But watching this film, I don't see him being a tackle.

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Speaker 2: I think this guy is a guard. And well, you know,

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Speaker 2: he reminds me of In fact, I wrote it down

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Speaker 2: because he reminds me of Jonah Williams, who was an

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Speaker 2: Alabama guy the Bengals drafted in the first round. And

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Speaker 2: the Bengals just drafted or excuse me to signing free

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Speaker 2: agency from Kansas City, the left tackle that they had there,

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Speaker 2: and then they're talking about moving Jonah Williams to right

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Speaker 2: tackle to.

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Speaker 3: Compete over there.

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Speaker 2: If you're gonna play left tackle in the National Football League,

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Speaker 2: you gotta have length, okay, and Skeronsky does not have

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Speaker 2: a lot of length, and then you better have length

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Speaker 2: to play left tackle, because you're gonna be facing guys

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Speaker 2: like Tyree Wilson who is six foot six, six foot seven,

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Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy five pounds and has thirty eight

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Speaker 2: thirty nine inch sleeve length. And if you have JP,

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Speaker 2: it's imagine trying to pass block like this. Okay, if

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to pass block you like this with the

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Speaker 2: old dinosaur arms. So t rex doesn't work. And it's

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Speaker 2: an exaggeration because Kronsky has like thirty three arms, but JP,

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Speaker 2: he's got thirty three inch arms. Okay, I can touch

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Speaker 2: you from here because I have thirty eight inch sleeves. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you've got to have the length to play left tackle. Wow,

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Speaker 2: that's a that's a heck of a reach by you

876
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Speaker 2: literally trying to block this t Rex over here trying

877
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Speaker 2: to block me.

878
00:40:59,360 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: All right.

879
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: So breaking news now in the National Football League, some

880
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: big quarterback news. The last day, of course, with Aaron

881
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 2: Rodgers officially traded from the Package to the Jets. But

882
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: today the Ravens have reached a five year deal with

883
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson.

884
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 3: Good for them.

885
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: I mean, look, Lamar Jackson's an exciting, dynamic player. He

886
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: hasn't been able to stay healthy a ton. But I

887
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: think with the recent contract that was signed in Philadelphia,

888
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 2: I think maybe tempered Lamar Jackson's expectation because Jalen Hurts

889
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: didn't get a completely guaranteed contract and that's what he

890
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: was looking for, and that's not what the market was

891
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: going to bear for him, especially with the number of

892
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: games that he missed. But I'm glad because I think

893
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson should be a raven and he's a tremendous

894
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: football player, and it's good for them now they can

895
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: move forward and concentrate on other things and other aspects

896
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: of their organization. The latest reporting, no official numbers are

897
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 2: out yet, but Justina Anderson is reporting the league sources

898
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: that of the total guarantee portion as one hundred and

899
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: eighty five million dollars for Lamar Jackson's and I'm sure

900
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 2: that Look, the recent contract by Jillen Hursts, I'm sure

901
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: was a little bit, you know. And here's the weird thing.

902
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: I mean, Lamar Jackson is his own agent. I'm it's right,

903
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 2: that's that's odd. I mean, it's very odd. And I'm

904
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 2: not saying that he can't do it. And I'm sure

905
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: that he's getting a lot of great advice and should

906
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: get a lot of great advice. But that's a weird

907
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: position to be in if you're doing your own contract.

908
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: A little more on the Aaron Rodgers situation. Officially traded

909
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: from the Packers to the Jets. He was actually on

910
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: the practice field today. His intro press conference was yesterday.

911
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 2: The Jets got Rogers and the twenty twenty three first

912
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: round pick and a twenty twenty three fifth round pick.

913
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: The Packers get the first round pick this year, number thirteen,

914
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: a second round pick this year, a sixth round pick

915
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: this year, and a conditional second round pick next year

916
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 2: that couldn't become a first If Rogers plays sixty five

917
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: percent of the plays this season, that's gonna be an

918
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: interesting watch. You know, will airon Rogers be committed to

919
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: the organization As far as the practice days that are

920
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: not mandatory.

921
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: I think that he needs to.

922
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: Commit himself to the Jets organization and show up for

923
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: all those things if he wants to end up making

924
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: a lot of friends in the locker room. Those are

925
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: the biggest NFL news, of course, Quarterbacks Lamar Jackson and

926
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers are now apparently settled in their respective places,

927
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: and they were only a couple of weeks probably away

928
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: from the schedule release. That's right around the corner too well.

929
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: And look, the NFL, I'm sure was looking for some

930
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: resolution to both of these situations because that impacts the schedule.

931
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: I mean, look, if Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback of

932
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: the New York Jets, I mean you're talking about the

933
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 2: Jets having some serious primetime football games. If Lamar Jackson

934
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: is the quarterback of the Ravens, that's a consideration with

935
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: schedule makers as well, you know. So I'm glad that

936
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 2: both of them were resolved. And I guarantee that Roger

937
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 2: Goodell and the league office was they might have been

938
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: putting a little phone call in here or there to

939
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 2: both organizations while all three organizations, the Ravens, the Jets,

940
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: and the Packers to make sure that this stuff got

941
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: moved along. Because look, you want to have all the

942
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: focus tonight on the draft. You don't want to have

943
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: speculation about Aaron Rodgers or Lamar Jackson could he end

944
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: up with another football team. This makes the focused on

945
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: what's happening tonight, and that's the NFL Draft and that's

946
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: where the focus should be at well. A lot of

947
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: AFC South teams have some draft equity high in this

948
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: first round, and most of them, if not all, three

949
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 2: of the other ones, could be looking at quarterback early

950
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: in this draft. Of course, the Jaguars are the best

951
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: set up at that position with the Trevor Lawrence. Let's

952
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: see what happens at Indianapolis. Certainly Houston at number two

953
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: could be in play. They also have another first round pick,

954
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 2: and Tennessee do they go for a quarterback?

955
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: What's the future hold there? With a new decision maker

956
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: in charge.

957
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: In Nashville, you could have Trevor Lawrence and three rookies

958
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: and the rest of the AFC South. I mean it

959
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: could be that, and I think that that's a real

960
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: realistic expectation. I think it would take Tennessee maybe needing

961
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: to trade up.

962
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 3: Maybe not.

963
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 2: If Hendon Hooker is a guy, he may end up

964
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: being there where they're at, but it may require them

965
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: to trade up. I think Indianapolis is locked in on

966
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: a quarterback. I think it probably is Levice, and we

967
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: know that Houston is a possibility.

968
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: I think CJ. Young's CJ. Trout or.

969
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: Buying moreph the two of them together. But I think

970
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: it's going to be very interesting. You know, we haven't

971
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 2: really mentioned quarterbacks yet, but the quarterbacks, the only part

972
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 2: that we mentioned about them is that having four or

973
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: five quarterbacks that could get you know, that could end

974
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: up getting drafted prior to the Jaguars pick at twenty

975
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: four means that there's gonna be a push of guys

976
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 2: that normally would not be available with that talent level

977
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: that the Jaguars are going to be able to pick

978
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: from it twenty four. And that's a good thing, the

979
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: more quarterbacks, because look, the reality is is that teams

980
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 2: are going to reach for quarterbacks and that's perfect. That's

981
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: exactly what you want if you're a team that already

982
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: has a quarterback, because it pushes more talent down to

983
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: you at your picks. And so the Jaguars in a

984
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 2: great position. Every franchise wants to be in the position

985
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 2: that the Kansas City Chiefs are, the Buffalo Bills, the

986
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars, the Los Angeles Chargers, and that's the position

987
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 2: of feeling that you have or knowing that you have

988
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback, because it makes it a lot easier

989
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: to draft players when you're in that situation, Yeah, and

990
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: you better have one just to compete in the AFC.

991
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: You mentioned some of those AFC teams. It is oh

992
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: Steers Row deep, It's deep in the NFC. I mean,

993
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: come on, NFC, where are you at? I mean, you

994
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: got to get some quarterbacks. And here's the crazy thing.

995
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: Is the the NFC going to add a quarterback this year?

996
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 2: I mean think about it. I mean, has there been

997
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: any talk with the four top quarterbacks in this year's draft?

998
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: Has there been any talk about an NFC team possibly

999
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: getting one of those four?

1000
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 5: No?

1001
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 2: No, So the NFC is going to continue to be

1002
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: quarterback deficial. Remember the Bears traded out, they traded back

1003
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: so with Carolina. Yeah, so because they like their guy

1004
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: fields well, panthers and pants. But I mean that's one

1005
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: why it's just amazing to me that how can you

1006
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: have that disparity between conferences? I mean really, I mean,

1007
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: I mean, Jalen Hurts is a tremendous player. Don't don't

1008
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 2: get me wrong.

1009
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 3: I love him.

1010
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: He's an excellent football player. But now, I mean Aaron

1011
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: Rodgers left the NFC and now is a part of

1012
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: the AFC. Got to keep up with the j AFC

1013
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: Quarterback League right now. Hey Busy nine, Tonight's final moments

1014
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 2: of Jaguars Happy. We're glad you've joined us on ten

1015
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: ten am and Jaguars dot com and Jaguars Social media, Twitter, Facebook,

1016
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: and YouTube. Tonight coming up at seven thirty, we'll have

1017
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: our pre draft show on Jaguars dot Com. We'll count

1018
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: down to the draft, plenty of special guests, plenty of

1019
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: content and get you ready for the draft today to

1020
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: o'clock tonight.

1021
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 3: You, Frank Frangi and who else is on the Draft

1022
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 3: radio show tonight? One time?

1023
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: Is all that a Well, I think you're gonna come

1024
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: on and visit with us for a little bit, so,

1025
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: I mean that's a good thing. But you know, I

1026
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: think we're gonna have different people on looking forward to it,

1027
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 2: looking forward to the draft. I've become a little bit

1028
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: of a draft junkie just because you know, you watch

1029
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: film on guys. You want to see where kind of

1030
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: where your assessment lines up with some of the teams picking,

1031
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: you know, and just let me throw this one last

1032
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: position goes out there because because we haven't talked about

1033
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: it yet, and I can't believe JP you didn't have

1034
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 2: it on the list. It is to talk about tight ends.

1035
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: Tight end, we have not talked about tight ends. You

1036
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: think it's in play at twenty four. I think it's

1037
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: absolutely in play at twenty four because kin Kid is

1038
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: a great receiving tight end. Mayor is a great He

1039
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: reminds me of Jason Witten, the guy that played it

1040
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: for the Dallas Cowboys for so long.

1041
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 3: Excellent receiver, excellent blocker. Love that guy.

1042
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 2: And then Georgia of course has Darnell Washington, who's like

1043
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: Land of the Giants tight end.

1044
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 3: And you already picked a cornerback at twenty four.

1045
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: I know, I know, but I mean, tight end is

1046
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 2: in play, and if Michael Mahyer is there, it would

1047
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: be hard not to draft him. He's young and he's

1048
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: still I mean he's young, but he's such a physical

1049
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 2: presence in the game, both as a blocker and as

1050
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 2: a receiver at a lot of positions.

1051
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens tonight.

1052
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: Gates open at seven o'clock for the du Vall draft

1053
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: party at Daily's Place or thanks to John Ozier, Jaguars

1054
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: owner shot kind of course joining us for Jeff Flagerman

1055
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: and our entire crew on JP Shadwick.

1056
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 3: We'll catch you next time. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on

1057
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,800
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