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<v Speaker 9>About that and how can it will be surprising?

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<v Speaker 1>That would be surprising, And actually that's sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>situation science was in for a long time. Astronomers thought

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<v Speaker 1>the universe is fixed, it's constant. All the stars are

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of hanging out there in space, not moving,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'd been like that forever. Hi, I'm Daniel.

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<v Speaker 9>Is this Jorge So.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a particle physicist. I smash protons together at cerned

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<v Speaker 1>in my day job to try to figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>is the basic nature of matter?

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<v Speaker 9>What do you smash as a hobby ban.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we know. When you're a particle physicist, you learn

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<v Speaker 1>to solve problems by smashing stuff together. So whatever's around me.

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<v Speaker 9>And I'm a cartoonist and my job is to sit

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<v Speaker 9>in my pajamas all day and draw funny things.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not how you started, right. You didn't grow up

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<v Speaker 1>thinking I'm going to be a cartoonist.

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<v Speaker 9>No. I started off as a researcher. I'm an engineer.

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<v Speaker 9>I studied robotics. I have a PhD in robotics. But

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<v Speaker 9>somewhere along the line, I started drawing comics and that

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<v Speaker 9>kind of took off for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is our podcast Daniel and Jorge.

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<v Speaker 9>Explain the Universe. Today. We're going to talk about how

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<v Speaker 9>it all began.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest of questions, the Big Bang.

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<v Speaker 9>What happened at the very beginning of the universe?

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<v Speaker 1>What happened before the Big Bang? It's a pretty deep,

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<v Speaker 1>basic question about the origin of our universe. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it, what do you know about it?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you imagine might have happened before the start

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<v Speaker 1>of our universe. We went out and we asked people

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<v Speaker 1>on the street what they thought happened just before the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Bang.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, there was a bunch of particles in the universe,

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<v Speaker 9>and then the combined together and poof.

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<v Speaker 1>You created it had all the energy of the universe.

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<v Speaker 9>So then when.

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<v Speaker 8>It happened, that's how it was all dispersed.

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<v Speaker 1>So most people seem to have some idea that, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, the Big Bang is more than just a

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<v Speaker 1>TV show, right, Right. The idea for the science came

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<v Speaker 1>before the TV show. I was kind of relieved to hear.

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<v Speaker 9>That everyone seems to know it's it sort of marks

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<v Speaker 9>the beginning of the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, It's a moment of creation or the starting of

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<v Speaker 1>the clock of the universe. Right, everything came from?

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<v Speaker 9>But what exactly happened during the Big Bang? And most interestingly,

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<v Speaker 9>what happened before the Big Bank?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? And that's fascinating to me. And these are the

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<v Speaker 1>best questions, the ones that like try to answer the

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<v Speaker 1>question where did everything come from? It sort of touches

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<v Speaker 1>on the philosophical like why are we here? If you

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<v Speaker 1>knew how the Big Bang happened and how the universe

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<v Speaker 1>was created, you might get some insight into what the

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of life is or how to live your life

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<v Speaker 1>or stuff. So to me, these are like really good,

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<v Speaker 1>deep basic questions.

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<v Speaker 9>So we made a list of the four things we

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<v Speaker 9>think you should know about the Big Bang. The first

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<v Speaker 9>one is that the entire universe was once really small.

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<v Speaker 9>Maybe we think, let's talk about that. What do you

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<v Speaker 9>mean maybe, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an interesting question. We know that the universe had

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<v Speaker 1>a beginning, right, and how do we know that. We

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<v Speaker 1>know that because things are expanding, things are moving away

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<v Speaker 1>from each other. Okay, that was the major discovery. Like

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred years ago, looked out in the stars and

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<v Speaker 1>discovered that they're all moving away from us.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, so like we thought everything would still like we

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<v Speaker 9>were frozen in a gel or something. The stars would

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<v Speaker 9>just like there are sitting there. Yeah, generally speaking, But

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<v Speaker 9>then they discovered that they actually things are moving away

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<v Speaker 9>from each other.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, and everything is moving away from us, and

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<v Speaker 1>everything is moving away from everything else. They just looked

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<v Speaker 1>at stars, and you can measure how fast a star

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<v Speaker 1>is moving relative to us by seeing how its light

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<v Speaker 1>is stretched or shrunk, depending on whether it's moving away

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<v Speaker 1>from us or towards It's like a Doppler shift.

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<v Speaker 9>Like the highway patrol measuring your speed. You can sort

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<v Speaker 9>of you can tell how fast you're going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 9>It's not like they looked at the stars and said

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<v Speaker 9>oh now it's down one's over there. It must have moved.

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<v Speaker 9>It's like it's some other information, right, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So they looked out there and they measured all this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and they said, whoa, everything's stretching out and moving

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<v Speaker 1>away from each other. So then the very natural consequences

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<v Speaker 1>to say, well, run that backwards. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>It means things might have been smaller and more dense

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe even come from a little.

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<v Speaker 9>Spot like if you hit the rewind bun, if you

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<v Speaker 9>see things make getting bigger. Now, if you had the

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<v Speaker 9>rewind bun wow for a while, what happens exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>And those are the mental games people were playing. And

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<v Speaker 1>actually the phrase big Bang was a joke that people

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<v Speaker 1>made up to mock that idea. They're like, look, how

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous this idea is.

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<v Speaker 9>It is kind of a silly sounding name, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was whimsical.

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<v Speaker 6>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a Donald Trump insult, you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else's.

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<v Speaker 9>Big lee Bang.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly, the Big Bang.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, if you were like a respectable scientist today and

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<v Speaker 9>you had to name this event, you wouldn't call it

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<v Speaker 9>the big Bang, or you think that it was a

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<v Speaker 9>good name.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, if I was on a marketing committee discover

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<v Speaker 1>the new name for it, the Moment of Creation. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Big Bang is actually pretty good, you know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you got your alliteration. It's short, it's pithy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, it's pretty well done. I think that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>why it survived so.

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<v Speaker 9>Long, because everyone wants the universe to start with the bank.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 9>So you played back the movie of the universe and

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<v Speaker 9>tells us that everything was once much closer together, and

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<v Speaker 9>then much much closer, and then much much closer, and

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<v Speaker 9>if you keep thinking about it, things may have been

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<v Speaker 9>really really really close together. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they just keep extrapolating down to a point. And

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<v Speaker 1>around the same time, Einstein came up with all of

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<v Speaker 1>his ideas of general relativity and thinking about gravity and

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<v Speaker 1>how the universe works, and people were playing with those

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<v Speaker 1>equations and discovering that those equations actually predicted that the

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<v Speaker 1>universe could start from a point. They were consistent with

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<v Speaker 1>Einstein's ideas of gravity.

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<v Speaker 9>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>It was consistent, meaning that you can construct a universe

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<v Speaker 1>that starts from a point and then it blows up

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<v Speaker 1>and expands, And that totally makes sense from an einstein

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<v Speaker 1>gravity point of view, like it follows the rules, it's allowed, okay.

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<v Speaker 9>Meaning that nothing weird happens, Like you can cram that

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<v Speaker 9>much stuff into such a small.

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<v Speaker 1>Space according to Einstein, right, what is he know, which

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty well accepted as a smart guy was already's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. But you know there are some issues there.

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<v Speaker 1>The original idea was the Big Bang was this really dense,

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<v Speaker 1>hot blob of stuff and then it blew up and

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<v Speaker 1>expanded into things we know. And you know, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a weird idea for a long time, and people didn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe it for a long time. It was in the

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<v Speaker 1>sixties that they finally found the first like concrete piece

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<v Speaker 1>of evidence that maybe the Big Bang had happened, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when they discovered the thing called the cosmic

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<v Speaker 1>microwave background radiation.

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<v Speaker 9>So it was weird to think about so much stuff

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<v Speaker 9>and matter and stars and being cramped to small space.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it meant the universe wasn't always this dark

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<v Speaker 1>and cold and empty place that we know today. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like a hot, dense blob like the center of

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<v Speaker 1>the sun.

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<v Speaker 9>It was a hot mess.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a hot mess exactly. The universe was not

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<v Speaker 1>well organized when it was young.

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<v Speaker 9>So yeah, so they said, okay, now, but now they

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<v Speaker 9>saw something like you call it the cosmic microwave baground radiation.

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<v Speaker 9>That said, yes, that's a your indication things were a

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<v Speaker 9>hot mess before.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they said, if things were really hot and dense

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<v Speaker 1>a long time ago, then they should have given off

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<v Speaker 1>this special kind of light and we should still be

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<v Speaker 1>able to see it today. And they went out and

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<v Speaker 1>they found it. You can see it like you can

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<v Speaker 1>see it if you have a special radio telescope. And

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<v Speaker 1>some guys built a fancy radio telescope. They weren't even

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<v Speaker 1>actually looking for this background radiation and they just had

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<v Speaker 1>a hiss in their telescope. They had this noise in

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<v Speaker 1>their telescope. And coincidentally, some people a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>earlier had predicted, oh, if you build this kind of telescope,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll and the big bang happened, you'll hear this hiss.

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<v Speaker 1>And they turned on their telescope they heard this hiss

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, what is this. We can't get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of this noise. And then two years later they won

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<v Speaker 1>the Nobel Prize.

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<v Speaker 9>That's a great discovery.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a pretty you're going to get fired.

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<v Speaker 9>But then they're like, oh, that mistake you made. It's

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<v Speaker 9>the discovery of the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 9>So that's the big Bang. It's everything was once really

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<v Speaker 9>small and then it just kind of exploded out into

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<v Speaker 9>what we have today.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. That's the whole idea, is that the universe

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<v Speaker 1>has a beginning and then it expanded into what we

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<v Speaker 1>know today. And that was the sort of first idea

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<v Speaker 1>of the Big Bang, like maybe everything came from a

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<v Speaker 1>point and people, a lot of people, when they think

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<v Speaker 1>about the Big Bang, they think about the universe starting

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<v Speaker 1>in a singularity, meaning a bunch of stuff in zero volume.

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<v Speaker 9>All of it on top of each other, in the

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<v Speaker 9>same zero space exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's mind blowing to imagine, Like, take the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>and cram it down into the amount of space you

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<v Speaker 1>have for a grain of sand. Hard to imagine right now,

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<v Speaker 1>make it even smaller. Now, add every other star in

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<v Speaker 1>the universe on top of it. It's like your brain

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<v Speaker 1>can right, Yeah, it's it's not really the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just all the energy, all the energy density that

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<v Speaker 1>we currently have in the universe was crammed into that

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<v Speaker 1>tiny little space. That was sort of the early idea

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<v Speaker 1>and you can imagine like a big empty universe of

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<v Speaker 1>space with a tiny dot of matter in it, And

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<v Speaker 1>of course that engenders a lot of questions like where

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<v Speaker 1>did that? Any doubt a better come from it? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there only one? How was it created?

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<v Speaker 14>With each other.

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<v Speaker 15>Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin

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<v Speaker 9>Well, so that's the Big Bang, And so the next

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<v Speaker 9>thing people should know is that the Big Bang happened

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<v Speaker 9>about fourteen billion years.

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<v Speaker 1>Ago billion with a b.

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<v Speaker 9>Billion years ago. Yeah, and I can't even remember what

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<v Speaker 9>I did this morning, fourteen minutes ago. That's how old

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<v Speaker 9>universe is from that moment of the Big Bang.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so the universe has been around since the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Bang about fourteen billion years and you know, for scale,

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth has been around about four and a half

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<v Speaker 1>billion years. That's when our solar system was fourned.

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<v Speaker 9>Right, Well, how do you how do we know how

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<v Speaker 9>old the universe is? Like, yeah, like how can you tell?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, we are seeing it expand, and so the

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<v Speaker 1>simplest way is to just extrapolate back, say how fast

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<v Speaker 1>does it expand? And extrapolate that expansion back until the

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<v Speaker 1>zero point.

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<v Speaker 9>So like if you look at the furthest stars you see,

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<v Speaker 9>you know how fast we're going. You can just like

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<v Speaker 9>hit the rewind button. Yeah, it would take about fourteen

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<v Speaker 9>billion years for it to connect to everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we're pretty sure that something happened fourteen billion

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. This expansion of space happened fourteen billion years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But these days scientists are a little fuzzier on what

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the Big Bang was. So idea zero was a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny dot with all the matter and it explodes into

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<v Speaker 1>the universe. Problems with this idea are one that you

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<v Speaker 1>can't really have tiny dots of infinite density, so.

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<v Speaker 9>Einstein told me before you could.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that was Einstein's idea, and the idea is consistent

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<v Speaker 1>with Einstein's gravity. But Einstein's theories of gravity don't account

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<v Speaker 1>for quantum mechanics. Okay, quantum mechanics when they came after Einstein,

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<v Speaker 1>he was never really very comfortable with and quantum mechanics

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<v Speaker 1>is a whole, big, long story, But the thing we

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<v Speaker 1>need to understand is that it says you can't have

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<v Speaker 1>things that are super duper tiny. There might be a

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<v Speaker 1>smallest space, there might be the smallest distance.

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<v Speaker 9>Get fuzzy. Yeah, like at some point you can't get unfuzzier.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, exactly. There's a basic unit of fuzziness. Like

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<v Speaker 1>imagine space being pixelated, right, Like you can't talk about

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<v Speaker 1>something smaller than one pixel. So we think that quantum

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<v Speaker 1>mechanics is probably correct. And if you big pixel, the

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<v Speaker 1>big pixel, that's right, the first pixel of the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>So we think if you try to follow Einstein extrapolate

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<v Speaker 1>the universe down to a point, general relativity probably works,

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<v Speaker 1>but we think it probably breaks when you get down

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<v Speaker 1>to really really tiny distances and really heavy stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's ever seen that happen. You have to look inside

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<v Speaker 1>a black hole or go back in time and see

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Bang. But these days we have a slightly

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<v Speaker 1>fuzzier version of the idea of the Big Bang. Rather

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<v Speaker 1>than a point of matter that then explodes into space,

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<v Speaker 1>we think of the universe as being created as a

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<v Speaker 1>blob of space and matter, and then of.

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<v Speaker 9>Space and matter. Yeah, so like it like a blob

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<v Speaker 9>of space.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a tiny universe with not much space. So instead

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<v Speaker 1>of an infinite universe with a tiny blob of matter

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<v Speaker 1>in it, now imagine a tiny piece of space filled

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<v Speaker 1>with energy and matter.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, and what's outside of that little space?

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<v Speaker 1>We have no idea, Like seriously, we can't even imagine inconceivable, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But we do know that space can be variable in size,

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<v Speaker 1>space can expand, and these days we have a more

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<v Speaker 1>modern idea of the Big Bang as that expansion of

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<v Speaker 1>that space.

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<v Speaker 9>It might kind of like a bubble, like a bubble

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<v Speaker 9>that's a space, and then there's stuff in the bubble.

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<v Speaker 9>So you're saying both those things blew up exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the more modern idea that space itself

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<v Speaker 1>can expand. And so if you're out there thinking, what

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<v Speaker 1>is he talking about? How can space expand? What is

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<v Speaker 1>it expanding into? Everything has to be in something, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and the answer is, we don't know. We think used

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<v Speaker 1>to think of space as just like emptiness, and we

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<v Speaker 1>can go a whole episode about just what space is,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we really will, so people listening. But

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<v Speaker 1>these days we think of space as a thing because

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<v Speaker 1>it can spand it can bend, and it can ripple,

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<v Speaker 1>so we know it has all these properties. So it

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<v Speaker 1>might be that this bubble of space in the early

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<v Speaker 1>universe was in some sort of super meta deep space

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<v Speaker 1>that we have never really discovered, or nothing. It could

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<v Speaker 1>be that it doesn't have to hang in something else.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the edge.

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<v Speaker 9>But space itself was smaller that that much. We know

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<v Speaker 9>space was small. Space was smaller, and the stuff in

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<v Speaker 9>it was crammed in, really really small, that's right. And

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<v Speaker 9>then about fourteen billion years ago, for some reason do

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<v Speaker 9>we know why, We don't know why, it decided it

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<v Speaker 9>didn't want to be that small anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Yeah, And that was the moment that space

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<v Speaker 1>was created, and then it expanded like crazy. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>we call inflation. Inflation is not you know why your

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<v Speaker 1>money doesn't work as well every year. I mean, that

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<v Speaker 1>is inflation. But there's and I don't know why do

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<v Speaker 1>we do this? In science? We take an idea, a

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<v Speaker 1>word that everybody uses to mean one thing, right, use

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<v Speaker 1>that same word to mean something totally different.

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<v Speaker 9>But it fits what it describes. It in the universe

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<v Speaker 9>inflated like a balloon, like a bowl, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, it's a good descriptive name from that sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So the universe inflated, that whole balloon inflated, and everything

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<v Speaker 1>inside it got stretched, okay. And the amount of stretching

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<v Speaker 1>that happened is crazy. It's like the universe expanded in

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<v Speaker 1>space by a factor ten to the thirty. That's ten

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<v Speaker 1>with thirty zeros on it, some crazy huge number, and

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<v Speaker 1>it did it in this really small amount of time,

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<v Speaker 1>ten to the minus thirty. So that's zero with thirty

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<v Speaker 1>zeros after the decimal plays and then a one. So

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<v Speaker 1>this incredible expansion, a huge expansion of space of ten

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<v Speaker 1>to the thirty and this tiny amount of time ten

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<v Speaker 1>to the minus thirty. It's hard to really even fathom.

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<v Speaker 9>It wasn't a rush to get big.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and it's still getting bigger today. And the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's important to understand is that space didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>created like on the outside of the universe. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like they made more room, it's stuff. The space inside

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe stretched was created, so like between two

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<v Speaker 1>particles you had a certain amount of space, then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden you had extra space between particles. So everything, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's getting stretched out from the inside also not just

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<v Speaker 1>from the outside, and that's also continuing to happen. Like

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<v Speaker 1>the expansion of the universe today, the in fact the

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<v Speaker 1>universe is getting bigger and bigger is happening all around this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more space being created.

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<v Speaker 9>The third thing we should talk about today is that

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<v Speaker 9>we don't know what happened before the Big Bang, like

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<v Speaker 9>before this little bubble blew up, what happened before.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get into that, let's take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm buzzs Night and I'm the host of the Taking

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<v Speaker 11>a Walk podcast music History on Foot John Oates.

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<v Speaker 11>The podcast is an audio diary of insightful conversations with

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<v Speaker 13>David I met David and Steven and Graham kind of

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<v Speaker 13>around the same time, basically through my wife Leah, who

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<v Speaker 13>is Cass Elliott's sister.

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<v Speaker 6>air while you're playing the song and try to catch

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<v Speaker 11>Listen to the Taking a Walk podcast on the iHeartRadio app,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'm Jackie Thomas, the host of a brand new

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<v Speaker 2>Black Lit is for the page turners, for those who

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doctor Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>As the US elections approach, it can feel like we're

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<v Speaker 3>angrier and more divided than ever. But in a new

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 3>coopbole season of my podcast, I'll Share with the science

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 3>really shows that we're surprisingly more united than most people.

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<v Speaker 7>We all know something is wrong in our culture and

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<v Speaker 7>our politics, and that we need to do better, and

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<v Speaker 7>that we can do better.

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<v Speaker 3>With the help of Stanford psychologist Jamiale Zaki.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really tragic.

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<v Speaker 5>If cynicism were appeal, it'd be a poison.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see that our fellow humans, even those we disagree with,

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 3>are more generous than we assume.

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<v Speaker 2>My assumption, my feeling, my hunch is that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of us are actually looking for a way to disagree

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<v Speaker 2>and still be in relationship.

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<v Speaker 6>With each other.

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<v Speaker 3>All that on the Happiness Lap Listen on the iHeartRadio app,

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<v Speaker 8>In nineteen eighty two, Atari players had one thing on

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<v Speaker 8>their minds, sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game.

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<v Speaker 8>Atari promised one hundred and fifty grand in prizes to

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<v Speaker 8>four finalists, but the prizes disappeared, and what started as

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<v Speaker 8>a video game promotion became one of the most controversial

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<v Speaker 8>moments in eighties pop culture.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't believe they exist.

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<v Speaker 5>Every by reactions shock at all.

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<v Speaker 3>That sword was amazing, It was so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm Jamie Loftis. Join me this spring for the Legend

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<v Speaker 8>of sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari

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<v Speaker 8>and the disappearing sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest

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<v Speaker 8>for lost treasure across four decades.

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<v Speaker 9>It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari

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<v Speaker 9>itself in a way.

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<v Speaker 8>Listen to the Legend of sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app,

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<v Speaker 8>Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 16>We think of Franklin as the doddling dude flying a

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<v Speaker 16>kite and no rain, but those twomen are the most

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<v Speaker 16>important scientific discoveries of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Evan Ratliffe.

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<v Speaker 14>Last season, we tackled the ingenuity of Elon Musk with

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<v Speaker 14>biographer Walter Isaacson. This time we're diving into the story

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<v Speaker 14>of Benjamin Franklin, another genius who's desperate to be dusted

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<v Speaker 14>off from him.

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 16>His media empire makes him the most successful self made

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<v Speaker 16>business person in America. I mean he was never early

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<v Speaker 16>to bed, an early to rise type person. He's enormously famous.

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<v Speaker 16>Women start wearing their hair and what was called the

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<v Speaker 16>coiffor a la Franklin.

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<v Speaker 14>And who's more relevant now than ever.

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<v Speaker 16>The only other person who could have possibly been the

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<v Speaker 16>first president would have been Benjamin Franklin, but he's too

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<v Speaker 16>old and once Washington been doing.

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<v Speaker 14>Listen to on Benjamin Franklin with Walter Isaacson on the

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<v Speaker 14>iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like totally territory for speculation and philosophy. We

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<v Speaker 1>have pretty good theories about what happened during the Big Bang,

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of the inflation. We even have some experimental

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>evidence to back it up. And it's a pretty solid

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:58.719
<v Speaker 1>theory these days that inflation happened.

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<v Speaker 9>But what do you mean experimental? Like we can measure

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<v Speaker 9>the Big Bang?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we right? So we can't go back in time

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>and see it right, but we can do things like

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<v Speaker 1>detectives do after a murder, and we can look for

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<v Speaker 1>clues and say, are the clues that we see in

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<v Speaker 1>the universe today consistent with this story or with that

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>other story. Right, so we can sift through the clues

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<v Speaker 1>from the Big Bang and say, it looks like the

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<v Speaker 1>universe was created and if inflation happened, it probably created

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<v Speaker 1>these ripples in that plasma, and we can see those

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<v Speaker 1>ripples in the cosmic microwave background radiation. It's really an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible golden age of cosmology. They're doing all this really

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<v Speaker 1>precision work to understand exactly what happened and what we know.

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<v Speaker 9>So, but we can only see up to a certain

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<v Speaker 9>points only before that is just the speculation.

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<v Speaker 1>Before that, it's just speculation. So one popular idea is

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<v Speaker 1>that there's this kind of matter called inflationary matter or inflantons,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has some weird gravitational properties, and those gravitational

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<v Speaker 1>properties cause inflation.

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<v Speaker 9>Like suddenly they came into being inside of this hot

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<v Speaker 9>mess and it's like we need to get out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's this never ending loop of questions. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>you say, well, the Big Bang was inflation. What caused inflation?

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<v Speaker 1>Inflationary matter? Well, what created inflationary matter? It's like dot

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<v Speaker 1>dot dot. You could just keep asking that question forever,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we will be asking that question forever,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll always be pushing back and trying to understand, and

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<v Speaker 1>until we get back to negative infinity in time, we're

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<v Speaker 1>never going to have like a solid answer. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of the fun, right, It's not like it's the

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<v Speaker 1>journey as much as the destination.

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<v Speaker 9>But there's some cool ideas there about what happened before

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<v Speaker 9>that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's right. Yeah, Like maybe the whole universe was

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<v Speaker 1>filled with inflationary matter and in some places it decayed

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<v Speaker 1>into normal matter and then inflation happened. And if that's

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<v Speaker 1>the case, then you have like our universe is one

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<v Speaker 1>spot inside some huge mega universe of inflationary matter, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe at other points in the in that mega universe

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<v Speaker 1>there are also other dots that turned into what we

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<v Speaker 1>call pocket universes.

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<v Speaker 9>Were like the zits of the the face of the

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<v Speaker 9>of the mega universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Mega is its on the mega universe.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and that's maybe like our universe is just like

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<v Speaker 9>a little bubble in a big sea of other bubbles.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, exactly.

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<v Speaker 9>That's one idea.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one idea, and we have no way to really

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<v Speaker 1>to test that idea. Is the problem, because there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way for us to ever reach those other bubbles, because

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<v Speaker 1>if that's the case, if that's really the reality of our,

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<v Speaker 1>of our, of the situation of nature, it means that

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<v Speaker 1>inflation is still happening because that inflationary matter is still

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<v Speaker 1>constantly expanding. So those other universes, those other bubbles, are

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<v Speaker 1>getting pushed away from us much much faster than the speed.

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<v Speaker 9>Of light, because it'll never hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't send a message to there, you can't ever

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<v Speaker 1>see it, you can't ever go there. And scientifically that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big problem, not because I really want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the beaches in some other bubble universe, but because

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to prove that it's true, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do an experiment, you have to find some evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to do you have to have a theory

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<v Speaker 1>that can be confirmed. If you have a theory that

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<v Speaker 1>predicts something you can never test, and it's not really

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<v Speaker 1>a scientific theory or a useful one, it's right, it's

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>like saying to guess, Yeah, it's a guess, and.

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<v Speaker 9>That's one theory. Maybe we're a bubble in a sea

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<v Speaker 9>of other universes. What's another idea for what happened before

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<v Speaker 9>the Big Bang?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, another idea is that maybe there's a cycle, right,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the Big Bang was caused by a big crunch, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And to understand that you have to think about sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the future first, Like, so the Big Bang happened,

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<v Speaker 1>everything expands out, and then one question is like are

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<v Speaker 1>things going to keep expanding? We don't really know, but

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<v Speaker 1>one possibilities they keep expanding forever and the universe just

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of drifts out into this endlessly cold, boring, bland situation.

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<v Speaker 1>But another possibility is that it slows down, stops, and

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<v Speaker 1>then falls back in. Right, Everything rushes back and gravity

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>pulls everything back into it to recreate that hots Yeah, deflation,

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I think you just invented.

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<v Speaker 9>Can I go back and change it to my son's name?

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<v Speaker 1>Ollivation. The deflation theory would say that the universe comes back, falls.

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 9>And then collapses back into a little hot mess again.

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>A little hot mess. It's like recovering your youth, right,

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like a middle aged crisis or.

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<v Speaker 9>Whatever, and then it just bounces back again.

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that would be a cycle. So a big crunch,

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>big bang, big crunch, big bang.

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<v Speaker 9>That could be big Bang US, big crunch, big bang again,

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<v Speaker 9>maybe somebody else, somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>Better looking versions of us.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, impossible, impossibly. Yeah. So that's another idea, is that

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 9>would happen before is like more and more universes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And there's something nice about that because it explains

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<v Speaker 1>both that our universe had a beginning and it also

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<v Speaker 1>gives you an explanation for what happened all the way

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<v Speaker 1>back to the beginning of time, because it returns to

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility of the universe is infinitely old, right, because

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>that could have been happening forever. It allows you to

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<v Speaker 1>have this sort of finite of time for our universe

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<v Speaker 1>without limiting you to finiteeness for the whole universe, sort of.

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<v Speaker 9>Like the right time could be infinite, but space could

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 9>be finite.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. Yeah, And that brings us to the

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:17.839
<v Speaker 1>last crazy idea, which is maybe there was nothing before

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:18.439
<v Speaker 1>the Big Bang.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean nothing time.

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Not even time, right. We think space was created in

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Bang and space has expanded and all that stuff, and.

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<v Speaker 9>So there could have been no time, no space before.

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<v Speaker 1>No space and no time, right, And it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>even wrap your mind around what that is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a hard time imagining, like what will happen

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<v Speaker 1>after we die? Well, the universe continue without us right

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<v Speaker 1>now trying to imagine the universe without space and time.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that even mean? And you have to think

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<v Speaker 1>also about what time is itself? Like, what does it

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<v Speaker 1>mean for there to not be time? Right, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>time in which there's no time. There's no time for

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<v Speaker 1>that to happen, right, And a lot of people think

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<v Speaker 1>about time as sort of the organized principle of the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you've heard of the second law through my dynamics

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<v Speaker 1>that tells us that entropy is always increasing in the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they.

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<v Speaker 9>Imagine things are getting messier.

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<v Speaker 1>Things are getting messier and forward in time, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>getting more and more spread out, forward in time. And

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<v Speaker 1>so some people think that that is time. The time

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<v Speaker 1>is measured by entropy and created by entropy, and that

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<v Speaker 1>before the Big Bang, if there was if there was nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>no space, then there was no time. And that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like an odd idea, but in other ways we're very

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with it. Like you know, if you stand on

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<v Speaker 1>the North Pole and you ask which way is north, well,

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<v Speaker 1>there is nothing north in the north. You blew us up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to write to Stephen Hockey and tell that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually his His phrase is you know, maybe this's no

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<v Speaker 1>north of north.

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<v Speaker 9>North, there's no before yeah, zero time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because if you're standing on a sphere and you're

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<v Speaker 1>the north pole of it, there's nowhere to go, nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>to go, there's no more northiness.

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<v Speaker 9>Can the tape ends when you try to rewind it more.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, and that's something we're comfortable with. We're accepting

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that a sphere has like a limit and edge,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's reasonable for that for there be nothing beyond it.

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<v Speaker 1>But when we think of time, we tend to think

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<v Speaker 1>of in a line, and so we want there to

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<v Speaker 1>be something before it, or at least for there to

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<v Speaker 1>be a reason why it started here and not somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>else or some other other you know, time or it's

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<v Speaker 1>a very natural, i think idea to have intuitively to

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<v Speaker 1>think that something should have been before then. But it

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<v Speaker 1>could be that there was nothing. That the things were

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<v Speaker 1>created at that moment and there was nothing before the.

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<v Speaker 9>Here and then we came. Yeah, we dropped the mic.

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<v Speaker 1>We came. We made this podcast, and that's a summary

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<v Speaker 1>of all the whole universe in a nutshell. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>any of those theories, First of all, those are very

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to test, and it's hard to imagine how we'll

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<v Speaker 1>ever know. Right, it might be that there aren't any

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<v Speaker 1>clues in the rubble of the universe to tell us

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<v Speaker 1>which one is, which one is? Which there might be,

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<v Speaker 1>although I'd like to have faith in future scientists coming

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<v Speaker 1>up with clever ideas for ways to test these theories

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<v Speaker 1>which right now seem impossible to test. But in the

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<v Speaker 1>future people.

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<v Speaker 9>Can gave everybody able to see beyond the Big Bang.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe maybe they'll find some evidence in the current

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<v Speaker 1>ubble that tells them, oh, is this or is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is the other thing? But even if you get there,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine having an answer to one of these questions.

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<v Speaker 9>Right, what do you think knowing what happened before the

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<v Speaker 9>Big Bang would tell you like, how would how would

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<v Speaker 9>it change your life?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would change everybody's life. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of knowledge that would filter into like the

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<v Speaker 1>global consciousness. Think about like how quantum mechanics has changed

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<v Speaker 1>the way people think about things. But there's randomness in

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<v Speaker 1>the universe, right, the universe is not following a fixed

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<v Speaker 1>set of rules, but that those rules have fuzz in them.

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<v Speaker 9>You think it's changed the global consciousness?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely and not just in New ag people who you know,

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