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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford alongside Wes Hodkwits and special guest

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Speaker 1: Larry McCarron. We are on location from the NFL Scouting

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Speaker 1: Combine in downtown Indianapolis and West I know we're here

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Speaker 1: mostly to visit with the prospects and try to get

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Speaker 1: a sense of maybe what the Packers are going to

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Speaker 1: do in the draft. But before we get to the draft,

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a period in the NFL that

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Speaker 1: they call free agency. And we heard earlier this week

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Speaker 1: from head coach Mike McCarthy and new general manager Brian

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Speaker 1: gudacun Stabault wanting to maybe be a little bit more

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Speaker 1: aggressive in free agency. Here. What form do you see

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Speaker 1: this taking on for the Packers. Well, I think it

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Speaker 1: starts with research and development, Mike. And here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It's not to say we don't know what this market's

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Speaker 1: gonna look like on March fourteen. Uh, this price of

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Speaker 1: these players that the thing you have to understand is

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Speaker 1: when you have this small of a market of guys

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Speaker 1: that are available, the guys that actually leak out that

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Speaker 1: teams don't resign, that increases the price, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's half the reason why you look at Ted Thompson,

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Speaker 1: the approach they took of why the Packers weren't always

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Speaker 1: the most active in that regard. But the Packers want

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Speaker 1: to be better prepared, and that's something that Brian Goodkins

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Speaker 1: said since his very first news conference. They want to

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Speaker 1: make sure that any scenario that plays out, they're ready

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Speaker 1: to react to it. The challenge for him in this

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Speaker 1: first year as the GM is the fact that it

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Speaker 1: is a little bit tighter as far as the salary

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Speaker 1: caps are concerned after the extensions with Davante Adams and

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Speaker 1: Corey Linsley, so they may have to get somewhat creative

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Speaker 1: in that regard. But in terms of the guys that

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Speaker 1: do actually get out into the free agent market, the

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Speaker 1: Packers want to be more involved to potentially react if

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Speaker 1: one of those guys can make sense and make this

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Speaker 1: team better. Yeah, that preparation part of it you mentioned

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Speaker 1: is interesting because you can try to predict all the

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Speaker 1: different scenarios. Players who may get cut for salary cap reasons,

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Speaker 1: or players who become able because they don't get franchise

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Speaker 1: tagged for instance, something like that. But there are always

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Speaker 1: things that happened in this league, Larry, that surprised people.

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Speaker 1: You things that you don't see coming. And it sounds

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Speaker 1: to me like the Packers new general manager wants to

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Speaker 1: be ready in case something surprises them and they can

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Speaker 1: maybe pounce on a player. Well, I think the preparation

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Speaker 1: you guys are talked about so far, you do everything

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Speaker 1: you can to avoid WHOA what happened right there? We

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Speaker 1: we were caught with you know what. We weren't just

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Speaker 1: we weren't just ready for that. And I think something

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Speaker 1: that I think Brian told me, and I think it

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Speaker 1: was off camera, that I might lend to the party

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Speaker 1: here is that they have treated they've tweaked the preparation

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Speaker 1: process a little bit, and they've treated it a little

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Speaker 1: bit like the draft, where they go through the possibilities

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Speaker 1: and of course we're talking about individual names and things

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Speaker 1: like that, but they go through the possibilities and everybody

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Speaker 1: gets seer say it's not like, okay, this guy's available. Now.

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Speaker 1: Now everybody has had their say, they've looked at it,

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Speaker 1: they kind of judged it, They've gone through it much

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Speaker 1: like the draft process. And like I said, I think

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Speaker 1: that's a little tweak from what they've done in the past. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think one thing that definitely is not going

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Speaker 1: is players that they may go out and sign are

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Speaker 1: going to have to be the right fit for Green Bay,

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Speaker 1: for the locker room, and for the culture we saw.

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Speaker 1: I guess what you could chalk up as a mistake

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Speaker 1: last year with Martelli Spennett when things didn't work, when

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Speaker 1: things didn't work out with Jared Cook, the Packers went

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Speaker 1: to Plan B and it didn't work out. But that

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Speaker 1: that's going to happen once in a while. But I

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Speaker 1: think the Packers are going to take the same approach.

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Speaker 1: What I'm also interested in is, uh are they going

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Speaker 1: to be able to keep things as quiet in some

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Speaker 1: Julius Peppers was saying, nobody knew that that was happening,

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Speaker 1: Nobody saw it coming. I remember, actually I was in

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Speaker 1: don't know when the Packers are talking about wanting to

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Speaker 1: do you think, Well, that's such a unique situation because

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Speaker 1: you're right, Julius Peppers was out of Green Bay by

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Speaker 1: from that regard, but interest is there, and you look

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Speaker 1: at how these markets shape and now that they have

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Speaker 1: the legal tampering period basically what they call it, that

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Speaker 1: forty eight hour window where teams are able to start

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Speaker 1: sign them. The packers have actually used that to their

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Speaker 1: But you know, potentially, what does Brian Goodquins think about

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Speaker 1: getting into those other phrase with players that are outside

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Speaker 1: A lot of the risk and a lot of reward

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to run in free agency as well.

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Speaker 1: And Brian Gudcoon is very upfront about that, honest. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And that's where the fit in the locker room and

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Speaker 1: the fit in the culture and Green Bay comes into play,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it. Larry Sure does. But I gotta tell you

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Speaker 1: like all good Catholics who want to get church out

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Speaker 1: By the way, I know a lot of you are Catholic,

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Speaker 1: But with that, we'll go to a break back with

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Speaker 1: more on Packers Unscripted from the NFL Scouting Combine right

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Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted Larry, Mike and

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Speaker 1: West in downtown Indianapolis at the NFL Scouting Combine. And

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Speaker 1: what's one of the prospects. One of the first prospects

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Speaker 1: we heard from yesterday here in in Ish an offensive

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Speaker 1: college career awfully productive. And Jones was a fifth rone

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Speaker 1: Will Hernandez, this offensive lineman from UTEP, is being talked

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Speaker 1: about a little bit higher in the draft order. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The thing you gotta remember to Aaron Jones last year

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Speaker 1: for them. Will Hernandez very easily could be a second rounder,

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Speaker 1: if not a first rounder, in this draft class. His

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Speaker 1: helping solidify his case. To put that in context, I

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Speaker 1: think Larry had pointed it out. Quentin Nelson had thirty five.

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Speaker 1: It's the most bench reps that anyone's had, i think

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Speaker 1: But the thing that was interesting talking to him about

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Speaker 1: And I had tweeted out a comment right after Hernandez

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Speaker 1: They played together for three years. Hernandez forty nine starts

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Speaker 1: and it was very complimentary the season that Aaron Jones

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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones was awfully productive and awfully exciting, was interrupted

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Speaker 1: by injuries here and there. But Larry, I'm interested in

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Speaker 1: He can break it, and uh, it was interesting between

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Speaker 1: I look at a number of situations where, in particular

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Speaker 1: Packers certainly have options coming up this season with what

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Speaker 1: they figure out as they retool the playbook from page one,

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Speaker 1: as Mike mccaffy said, as they do those things, how

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Speaker 1: they're going to incorporate all those guys because, as the

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Speaker 1: coaches and Brian Gudaksa said, you can't have enough good

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Speaker 1: ways to employ them. Yeah, And I think if there's

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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara, the offensive Rookie of the Year, kind of

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Speaker 1: call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted

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Speaker 1: from the NFL Scouting Combine. We will have one more

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Speaker 1: on location episode for you, so be sure to stay

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Speaker 1: tuned for that. For Larry and Mike and West. Thanks

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