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Speaker 1: This is Brian Mitchell and this is Command Center Special.
Speaker 1: I'm here in Philadelphia with my man, Santana Moss. The
Speaker 1: Commanders tomorrow are taking on the Philadelphia Eagles. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go through some things today, try to chop it up
Speaker 1: a little bit. But you know about some memories we
Speaker 1: had from here, some great moments and things like that,
Speaker 1: and what we think needs to happen for the Commanders
Speaker 1: to get a victory tomorrow Tantana.
Speaker 2: You've come up here many times.
Speaker 1: They call you the Cowboy Killer, but you did great
Speaker 1: things against the Eagles as well.
Speaker 2: What's the biggest moment you've ever had playing.
Speaker 1: Here or even in back in in Landover against the Eagles.
Speaker 4: You know, one of my most fondest memories of this
Speaker 4: matchup has the date back my first year a part
Speaker 4: of this team, you know, in two thousand and five,
Speaker 4: we actually came up here the last game of the season.
Speaker 4: We played these guys on New Year's Day, Wow, and
Speaker 4: it was a part of the five game win streak
Speaker 4: that got us into the playoffs that year. And I
Speaker 4: remember that game being special because we had beat them
Speaker 4: at home on I believe on a Sunday night game
Speaker 4: and we had to face them again, just come off
Speaker 4: for four game win streak, and we had to win this.
Speaker 4: We had to win that game to have a great
Speaker 4: slot in the playoffs.
Speaker 5: And we won it.
Speaker 4: But it was a hard fork game and it's one
Speaker 4: of those games where I don't even think I had
Speaker 4: a touchdown. But it was just one of my fonnest
Speaker 4: memories just knowing what it took for us to get
Speaker 4: into postseason and we was facing a good team, you know,
Speaker 4: in the Philadelphia Eagles back then.
Speaker 1: I think you take this thing back to I don't
Speaker 1: care how long you go nineteen ninety I started playing
Speaker 1: against this evening. I ended my career up here playing
Speaker 1: for them them. But the ultimate thing is, I don't
Speaker 1: care how good Eighteam was.
Speaker 5: The battle was always great. You know.
Speaker 2: I can remember the Body Bad game.
Speaker 1: That's probably my biggest memory because everywhere I go somebody
Speaker 1: remind me of it. We're playing against them and they
Speaker 1: hurt basically nine people, and of the nine, I was
Speaker 1: backing up four and you.
Speaker 5: Was a quarterback that game.
Speaker 2: I end up quarterback of that game by a return.
Speaker 2: They pus that game.
Speaker 1: We player running back that game, so I had to
Speaker 1: do a lot of stuff. But the thing about it
Speaker 1: is for me, and I'm very much like you. I know, competitive,
Speaker 1: you are people. They were so happy about how they
Speaker 1: were hurting people, and that pissed me off. And I
Speaker 1: remember coach Gibbs saying, don't worry about it, We'll see
Speaker 1: him again. And we came back up here in the
Speaker 1: playoff and we knocked them out of the playoffs.
Speaker 2: And when I came.
Speaker 1: Here to play, everybody, man, you remember by the back game,
Speaker 1: I see you remember the playoff game, you know, because
Speaker 1: like the whole thing about me, I could be a jerk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like they were jerks in this town for the most point.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be just like them, you know, because
Speaker 1: if you're gonna sit up here and tell me about
Speaker 1: the game when you got the upper hand, let me
Speaker 1: know what you did when it mattered, and that's going
Speaker 1: to the playoffs.
Speaker 5: What is it about when it comes time?
Speaker 4: Because you know, one of the things that always stands
Speaker 4: out to me when we get ready to face the
Speaker 4: teams in our division. You look at the records that
Speaker 4: we have and I didn't realize we was leading the
Speaker 4: series because you know, it been so competitive amongst these
Speaker 4: two teams, but I feel like Philly have had the
Speaker 4: edge in the past decade when it comes to wins.
Speaker 4: What was it about what transpired back in the day
Speaker 4: before I got here that made this game so competitive?
Speaker 4: Because I know they talk about the Cowboy Game and
Speaker 4: we know the Giants to me, has always been on
Speaker 4: our toughest opponents our division.
Speaker 5: What was it about this game and us?
Speaker 4: Because I feel like this is where we got beat
Speaker 4: up the most playing against Philly, Well, you got beat.
Speaker 1: Up by the players because they were always tough. Buddy
Speaker 1: Ryan came in with the mindset where we're going to
Speaker 1: beat them up and see if they can have a
Speaker 1: mental toughness to get through the game. And one thing
Speaker 1: about coach Gibbs, who didn't curse. He rarely got highly upset.
Speaker 1: But the man was as competitive as anybody, and he
Speaker 1: raised us to be like that and coach us to
Speaker 1: be like that. And I tell you that body bag
Speaker 1: game I think had a lot to do with what
Speaker 1: has transferred over the years now because think about it,
Speaker 1: they normally come to Washington beat us, and we normally
Speaker 1: come here and come and no matter how good they are,
Speaker 1: we can knock them off.
Speaker 2: So I think the thing about it is that this
Speaker 2: this a blue collar town.
Speaker 1: The team was very very they weren't brash, the town
Speaker 1: was brash. And after they had that game, they began
Speaker 1: to ask for the team took on it because I
Speaker 1: remember coming here and we played against the Giants and
Speaker 1: it's like the Giants will always beat us.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the hell is this?
Speaker 4: You know, like the boring game against the Giants and
Speaker 4: we've seen to always take the ill.
Speaker 1: So it's just like, you know, I really believe that.
Speaker 1: You know, these towns are so close, and you see
Speaker 1: him twice a year. And the thing about our division,
Speaker 1: you may see the Cowboys in the playoffs, you may
Speaker 1: see the Giants in the playoffs, you may see the Eagles.
Speaker 1: And I think just playing a team twice a year
Speaker 1: is enough. But when you got that playoff imprecations and
Speaker 1: you can go to the super Bowl or not go
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl based off a team of your division,
Speaker 1: that makes everybody just have a little bit more, you know,
Speaker 1: vitrol to come after the player, you know.
Speaker 2: So for me, you know, I had that one.
Speaker 1: And then I can remember coming up here in some
Speaker 1: games where they were basically trying to kick the ball
Speaker 1: away from me. And you know, that's the most frustrated
Speaker 1: in the world. You practice all week, you want to
Speaker 1: be out there. This is football, It's not keep away.
Speaker 1: And I think Ray Rose was the head coach and
Speaker 1: the punter.
Speaker 2: I guess he's shank one.
Speaker 1: And I timed I quite on the run boom cut
Speaker 1: back score and I went back to the sideline. I
Speaker 1: was telling the specialties coach. I said, I told you,
Speaker 1: And after that game, he was team coach anymore. Wow,
Speaker 1: So it just seems like they were they And then
Speaker 1: when I saw that like they when I would play
Speaker 1: against the Eagles, everybody talked but the special teams guys.
Speaker 1: Everybody talked but the defensive backs. So I basically say,
Speaker 1: I'm a make and I started trying. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I call all of that bluff. I say, if you
Speaker 1: tackle me, you won't make it through the game.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It was just that I just think that this team
Speaker 1: brought everything out of you if you were a competitor.
Speaker 4: So so so I want to ask this question leading
Speaker 4: to this game this week against our team. Our team
Speaker 4: just come off of a tough loss, you know, And
Speaker 4: I mean it's one of those losses where you look
Speaker 4: at and you say, man, you only could you force yourself?
Speaker 4: And it's not like you went out there and just
Speaker 4: played the kind of game that we've seen that these
Speaker 4: guys played.
Speaker 5: You know, you know the two games before and.
Speaker 4: Although the Buffalo Bills, everyone kind of thought that the
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills was a better team than us, how do
Speaker 4: you bounce back now you're facing the Eagles team. That's
Speaker 4: what three and oh they might not be clicking on
Speaker 4: offense the way they was clicking last year, but they
Speaker 4: still putting up points. The run game seems to be
Speaker 4: what second and none? They probably is second? Right now,
Speaker 4: coming to this game, what is it that we have
Speaker 4: to do as a team to come out of you know,
Speaker 4: Philly with a victory.
Speaker 1: Well, I think, first of all, we can't beat ourselves.
Speaker 1: You look at the game last week against Buffalo. As
Speaker 1: bad as we had played, that game was sixteen zero
Speaker 1: going into the fourth quarter. You mess around when you
Speaker 1: come out of the halftime, you have score seven.
Speaker 2: You're looking at sixteen seven. That game goes anyway.
Speaker 1: And I think the ultimate thing in the NFL. I
Speaker 1: know you said every week about win the turnover battle.
Speaker 1: He completely lost that. Yeah, okay, and then when we
Speaker 1: lost it. I think what I look at football is
Speaker 1: this way, the team that gets the upper hand has
Speaker 1: control because now that team can relax and settle into
Speaker 1: what they do best. And you watch with baltim I
Speaker 1: mean Buffalo did against is Buffalo began to try to
Speaker 1: run the ball a little bit.
Speaker 2: Then they had Josh rain the ball to digs.
Speaker 5: They do every other play on second team routes, you know, scramble, drill, so.
Speaker 1: It made us press and already we're a young football team.
Speaker 1: We have a young quarterback trying to get this thing,
Speaker 1: an offensive line that I don't think has got their
Speaker 1: chemistry completely.
Speaker 2: Together just yet.
Speaker 1: So when you're trying to click on that, because everybody
Speaker 1: keeps saying, well, why didn't they stick to the run,
Speaker 1: let's think about this.
Speaker 2: When we went for fourth and goal, fourth and two,
Speaker 2: it was whatever, we.
Speaker 1: Lost yours because they were ready for it. But then
Speaker 1: when we started running later, they were more in prevent
Speaker 1: They were trying to make sure we don't have no
Speaker 1: big plays against them.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there was a lot of spaces for us.
Speaker 1: But ultimately for me, you going to this game and
Speaker 1: our defense steps up because our defense is going to
Speaker 1: have to have a big game for us to get
Speaker 1: a victory here.
Speaker 2: If we can step up and kind of make Swift
Speaker 2: have to work, make.
Speaker 1: The office ask the way because they're passing game, as
Speaker 1: you stated, is not.
Speaker 2: Up to par right now. Their running game is legit.
Speaker 1: This is where the six first rounders have to step
Speaker 1: up and play and just don't turn the ball over.
Speaker 1: And I think you got a chance because against a
Speaker 1: division rival, it's nothing like playing against another team from
Speaker 1: somewhere else because you don't see them all the time.
Speaker 1: I was, I was liking it to Colorado, went to
Speaker 1: Oregon and got embarrassed. I think today they did better.
Speaker 5: Because they know that they see them enough.
Speaker 4: Speaking of defense, you're talking about their I mean our
Speaker 4: defense having to step up. Their defense one of the
Speaker 4: best when it comes to stopping the run. And we're saying,
Speaker 4: I've been here in all week. I'm pretty sure you're heard.
Speaker 5: It on your show. We need to run the ball more.
Speaker 4: I heard you telling folks, you know, you don't necessarily
Speaker 4: need to run the ball more. And don't look at
Speaker 4: the yards that we did run well because those yardists
Speaker 4: in the game where they were probably.
Speaker 5: Playing a little bit of the defense. You know.
Speaker 4: Okay, safe fans, as we do go out there and
Speaker 4: have that approach early, how do we match up against
Speaker 4: the guys who they have on the other side, because
Speaker 4: that defensive front is something else too, which you got
Speaker 4: Fletcher Cox, you got with Jordan Davis.
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis Carter comes off the bench and he's probably
Speaker 1: as good as anyone.
Speaker 4: You have some of the best guys on their defensive
Speaker 4: front as well. You can look at it like how
Speaker 4: fresh move mentioned. You could look at it as the
Speaker 4: SEC matchup. They had Georgia, we got Alabama. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, So like save Fancy, we are trying
Speaker 4: to take this game and have the approach that we
Speaker 4: had last year. Last year, I feel like we ran
Speaker 4: the ball well when we played them up here and
Speaker 4: beat them in November. We ran the ball well. But
Speaker 4: we haven't shown that yet this year with this new offense.
Speaker 4: So do you think that's the approach against this team,
Speaker 4: trying to establish the run or should we just like
Speaker 4: how you know Logan Polston talk all the time about Santana.
Speaker 4: It's not about just running the ball. It's about sustaining
Speaker 4: those drives. Basically, any way you can to move to change.
Speaker 4: Butether we run a couple of times, dumble ball off
Speaker 4: of two here and there, here, the splash paper, whatever
Speaker 4: it is, is going to be sustaining drives. That's to me,
Speaker 4: gives you a better chance than trying to force the ball.
Speaker 4: Until when I running backs say, I.
Speaker 1: Think if you sit up here and you this is
Speaker 1: what I love about football. The fans can say what
Speaker 1: the hell they want to say? Yeah, I said, The
Speaker 1: media can say what the hell, we want to say, Eric,
Speaker 1: Ron and Jack some of the people that come to
Speaker 1: the final say so. And I played in his offense,
Speaker 1: and I understand why.
Speaker 2: Eric does what he do a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot of the passes are sometimes
Speaker 1: trying to get the quick hit and then early on
Speaker 1: you look, you go down the field and they do
Speaker 1: the the zone or rezone or whatever. But the ultimate
Speaker 1: thing is whether you're using the run and says of
Speaker 1: the pass or vice versa, you have to execute the
Speaker 1: play that you're calling. And the thing about it, everyone
Speaker 1: said we should have stuck to the run. We weren't
Speaker 1: executing enough. We moved right down the field, got inside
Speaker 1: the twenty and we didn't get the we didn't get
Speaker 1: the points. That's not the fact that we weren't running
Speaker 1: the football. It's just that we didn't execute in the end.
Speaker 1: And I think the ultimate thing for me is a
Speaker 1: lot of the short passes are extensions of the run
Speaker 1: in the West Coast offense, and that's what Andy Reid
Speaker 1: will do, and I know that's what Eric does for me.
Speaker 1: I think that we have to hit the plays when
Speaker 1: we need to hit him. Like last year, the ball
Speaker 1: hits Goddard bounces, hits his foot, somebody's there are intercepting
Speaker 1: and run.
Speaker 2: You know, we made the players when we need to
Speaker 2: make them.
Speaker 1: And so many times I listen to people and I
Speaker 1: get frustrated because a lot of people don't understand this
Speaker 1: old game.
Speaker 2: But I don't want to say you don't you don't
Speaker 2: play the game.
Speaker 1: Allow.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be that guy.
Speaker 1: But ultimately, if this offense goes out and execute on
Speaker 1: the plays that are called, they can keep them off balance. Now,
Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals showed us the recipe. I was
Speaker 1: ready to stop a pass rushing team. Okay, they ran
Speaker 1: right at Michael Parsons, they ran right at Lawrence.
Speaker 2: Well, they got guys that like the pass rush. How
Speaker 2: many pass.
Speaker 1: Rush is like taking on a three hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: three and thirty pounder. And I think for the offensive line,
Speaker 1: they feel better when they're firing off instead of being passing.
Speaker 1: So I think you got to find a delicate balance
Speaker 1: into it, because you can't run the.
Speaker 2: Ball fifty times, and your damn sure, I can't throw
Speaker 2: it fifty times, but you could get somewhere in between
Speaker 2: and see what happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel the same way. I think when it
Speaker 4: comes down to just establish it the run, you should
Speaker 4: try to get the ball and be rob Hans a
Speaker 4: little more. I think he's a guy that's more than
Speaker 4: ready to carry the load. But I think also with
Speaker 4: just this offensive, you know, set up the way they
Speaker 4: have things going on right now, that's not the makeup
Speaker 4: of us right now. I do believe that we should
Speaker 4: try at least I mean, he needs more than five
Speaker 4: carries going into halftime. You know, you can't see your
Speaker 4: start running back, and he's still averaging probably what seventy
Speaker 4: yards apart twenty yards a game this year already within
Speaker 4: three games. I feel like you do need to establish
Speaker 4: a run. But I think one of the ways that
Speaker 4: we can if we do necessarily or don't try to
Speaker 4: establish a run when we do when we hit those players,
Speaker 4: whether we run the ball or getting the ball hands quick,
Speaker 4: we want to get those guys up front, going side
Speaker 4: the sideline, because those big guys. To me, I feel
Speaker 4: like we get those guys tired enough, then we now
Speaker 4: we got them playing, we got the advantage. Now we
Speaker 4: can stuff it at him a couple of times, but
Speaker 4: Stephan at them and they ready for it.
Speaker 5: Nah, that's not gonna be the rest.
Speaker 1: That's why I kind of fight back when guys said
Speaker 1: we have to run the ball so much early, because
Speaker 1: it's not about necessary. Are you running it or passing it?
Speaker 1: How many yards are getting on first down? Okay, if
Speaker 1: you throw a pass and you get you know, young
Speaker 1: quarterbacks normally wait for the guy to get open. Veteran
Speaker 1: quarterbacks you play with them, they throw the guy open.
Speaker 1: So when I drop back, if I don't see the guy,
Speaker 1: if I throw it to a space where I know
Speaker 1: he's going, he may show up and catch that ball.
Speaker 1: Because normally the defensive back is looking at the receiver
Speaker 1: and the receiver is looking at the quarterback. But if
Speaker 1: you run the football, do you gain yards or lose yards?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: And I think that's what you have to come by
Speaker 1: because you don't leave away from it. But when you
Speaker 1: have the opportunity, because we had the ball first, we
Speaker 1: went down, if we score there, we now put them
Speaker 1: in a position because I learned now I don't care
Speaker 1: how great the coordinators are. The team that gets the
Speaker 1: first teschdown normally now dictates to them because the next
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator is going to do what pull it in
Speaker 1: the air, pull it in that because everybody, for some
Speaker 1: reason seemly they got to get it all at one
Speaker 1: in one big player. And I think if they just
Speaker 1: find a way to whenever you get down there, at
Speaker 1: that point is where you have to be more cautious
Speaker 1: with the football. Turnovers in the red zone are the
Speaker 1: absolute worst. Yeah, And if we can avoid things like
Speaker 1: that and make sure we leave with points. If you
Speaker 1: can't get the seven, at least get three, don't leave
Speaker 1: with nothing at all.
Speaker 4: Speaking of our turnovers, you think about it last week,
Speaker 4: you know we had a lot of four interceptions I
Speaker 4: believe you threw. And we coming to this game, you're
Speaker 4: going up against two of the better defensive backs and
Speaker 4: brad Berry and Slay and Slay might be top three
Speaker 4: defensive deep cornerback.
Speaker 2: Terry has his lunch with Terry.
Speaker 1: Terry.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, he civilly reminds me of how
Speaker 4: they get He gets up for Slave, how I got
Speaker 4: up for the Cowboys, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like he had some for some odd reason. I don't
Speaker 5: know what it is.
Speaker 4: And we've been talking about, you know, finding ways to
Speaker 4: get Jahann active, and you I've heard you mentioned saying, hey,
Speaker 4: he's not number one. You know, Terry's number one. But
Speaker 4: even with that being say that, if you really watch
Speaker 4: the film like I watched it, you know, all twenty two,
Speaker 4: and you see the guys, see some of the routes
Speaker 4: that's Terry running, it's not really the routes that we
Speaker 4: probably want to see, you know, our big play guy having,
Speaker 4: but you want to see him get the ball more
Speaker 4: like to me, I feel like, do you think that
Speaker 4: we need to because I'm looking at it like this.
Speaker 4: We can, we can get in the passing game and
Speaker 4: try to affect those guys in the past game. But
Speaker 4: if you dropping seven and rushing only four, then it's
Speaker 4: come on. It's kind of one of those situations where
Speaker 4: you know, you plan you they basically want him to
Speaker 4: throw the ball so they can do what happened last week.
Speaker 1: That's and that's the thing where when people tell me
Speaker 1: about what we should do and shouldn't do if a
Speaker 1: defense can win with four.
Speaker 2: They dictate everything to you.
Speaker 1: You know, but if you have if the officer line
Speaker 1: I think plays just slightly a little bit more, not better,
Speaker 1: but more consistent, you know, you out you allow a
Speaker 1: guy a chance with a strong arm that Taylor Heineke,
Speaker 1: who came in here last year in November and beat
Speaker 1: this team when they were undefeated. You now have a
Speaker 1: guy in Sam how who has a on arm. You
Speaker 1: have a guy Terry.
Speaker 2: I think, who has multiple, uh.
Speaker 1: Like eight nine reception games against this football team. The
Speaker 1: dude he gets into his groove against them. And you
Speaker 1: have a guy and through to him against that was
Speaker 1: the second game against the dever that.
Speaker 2: Ball he threw to him.
Speaker 1: That's you give those chances to Terry, but you have
Speaker 1: to be able to step into your ball. And I
Speaker 1: think that's the ultimate thing for tomorrow night. I would
Speaker 1: hope that he would be more. I call him a ballerina,
Speaker 1: a ballerina in the in the in the pocket where
Speaker 1: it's not about wanting to get out of it, it's
Speaker 1: just working in it. The little slide forward, slide back,
Speaker 1: because I watched the game last week and I watched
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and I saw him move. If we look
Speaker 1: at this camera here, we got the mics. He moved
Speaker 1: from there, slide back, slid here, slid back and through
Speaker 1: the football and the office and then the defensive line
Speaker 1: players saying was right here. But he was able to
Speaker 1: deliver it if he had tried to run or just
Speaker 1: run the other way, he gets sack, but he was
Speaker 1: able to maneuver. And I watched guys like Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and like I would say, he is he has such
Speaker 1: a strong arm. But I think when you're an athletic quarterback,
Speaker 1: your mindset is normally I can get it done. And
Speaker 1: I was just say me as a quarterback college, what
Speaker 1: David Cully told me was, you don't need to do it.
Speaker 1: You got all these guys to help you, and guys
Speaker 1: like Terry and Curtis and Johann and then you got
Speaker 1: to be robbed behind you ag you know Logan is
Speaker 1: gonna be playing.
Speaker 2: You have all those.
Speaker 1: Guys that could take that pressure off of you, and
Speaker 1: you just gotta run the office in a timely fashion
Speaker 1: and not think you gotta wait for the big play,
Speaker 1: because the little plays, multiple little plays, will open up
Speaker 1: the big play.
Speaker 5: For you, no doubt. And that's what I that's my
Speaker 5: take on it.
Speaker 4: Like as a receiver, when I'm watching them, I'm looking
Speaker 4: at Sam and Sam, Sam.
Speaker 5: I get it, and I appreciate you because he's.
Speaker 4: Standing in the pocket for he wants to throw that
Speaker 4: ball to the open he wants that guy to get open,
Speaker 4: and he also like, screw this, I'm waiting on you.
Speaker 5: But as a receiver.
Speaker 4: Same way I told Jason Campbell when he was here, Bro,
Speaker 4: if you don't see me open, take off because I
Speaker 4: understand that clock and I'm running my route thinking about
Speaker 4: that clock. I remember back in when I was playing
Speaker 4: with the Jets and a coach told me coach got
Speaker 4: on me. He was pissed off with me, Paul Hackett,
Speaker 4: I'll never forget this. I ran a route in practice
Speaker 4: and it was a dig where I was a sixteen
Speaker 4: yard dig roud, So we had to run sixteen yards,
Speaker 4: put your foot in.
Speaker 5: The ground, and come back like a curl. That was
Speaker 5: our dig back then.
Speaker 4: So normally you can call a dig a fifteen yard
Speaker 4: in or you can call a dig of sixteen and
Speaker 4: come back.
Speaker 5: So it was sixteen and cut back, and I didn't
Speaker 5: run it how I looked on paper.
Speaker 4: I ran, put my foot in the ground like I
Speaker 4: was going around, and got a God turned his hips
Speaker 4: and I came back.
Speaker 5: He threw his clipboard. Ah, you don't run it that way.
Speaker 5: I caught the ball, made the play.
Speaker 2: You don't.
Speaker 4: You don't run it that he cursed me out in
Speaker 4: front of everybody, young pup. So I'm looking at him like,
Speaker 4: what you mean? Like he was sitting at thirteen. You
Speaker 4: want me to run the sixteen and come back, And
Speaker 4: he said, that's the only way you can run that route.
Speaker 5: I want you to run the way I taught it.
Speaker 4: Well, I overcame coaching because if I run the way
Speaker 4: you taught me, I'm gonna get blanketed. So I put
Speaker 4: I put a little something on it, and still got
Speaker 4: to my route on the right. Timing the reason why
Speaker 4: I bring it up because half of the time it's
Speaker 4: about timing. Yeah, West Coast offense is about timing. When
Speaker 4: I was with the Jets, it was a West Coast office.
Speaker 5: It was about timing.
Speaker 4: When I was in college, we had a time and
Speaker 4: offense too, and the things that I did with the Jets,
Speaker 4: I learned it in cottage because my cottage coach told me, Santanna,
Speaker 4: I didn't teach you this, but you can do it
Speaker 4: because you have the speed to get there, do what
Speaker 4: you do and still get to your spot. So when
Speaker 4: I'm watching the game, I'm looking at the quarterback and
Speaker 4: I'm seeing some of the things he's waiting on. I'm like,
Speaker 4: you got to say, scratch that, where's B, Where's C?
Speaker 4: And I gotta go you know what I mean? So
Speaker 4: fast forward. Just you spoke on Logan being back. I'm
Speaker 4: happy that he's back, although we had you know, col
Speaker 4: turning on W I believe is coming into his own.
Speaker 4: But I think Logan would be a brick help too,
Speaker 4: because we know use a quarterback one day, I mean
Speaker 4: before and I believe tight ends are quarterback safety nets.
Speaker 4: You know, those are guys that can always look, you know,
Speaker 4: look for in the middle of the field. And I'm
Speaker 4: just hoping that this week going forward, knowing what, we're
Speaker 4: probably going to see the same kind of front, the
Speaker 4: same kind of you know, back in I'm hoping that
Speaker 4: he used the safety nets a little more and often.
Speaker 4: And I think if you get to in a rhythm
Speaker 4: of dumping it off in the swing, swing passes over
Speaker 4: the guy over the ball, eventually those linebackers got to
Speaker 4: come up and then you can hit those holes.
Speaker 5: You can hit those guys in the.
Speaker 4: End cuts, you can get those openings in those zones
Speaker 4: that you need. So I feel like we have what
Speaker 4: it takes to beat these guys. We just got to
Speaker 4: go out and get the job.
Speaker 1: Answer this question, and I think we look at the
Speaker 1: offense and we understand that they're growing a lot. Defenses,
Speaker 1: the person is supposed to be leading this football team,
Speaker 1: what's the most important. The offense plays a lot better,
Speaker 1: the defense plays more dominant for them to get the victory.
Speaker 4: I think it's go hand in hand. Yeah, I really
Speaker 4: do think it's go hand in hand. I feel like
Speaker 4: I want the defense to be the tone setter. To me,
Speaker 4: I really believe that our defense, like if we paid
Speaker 4: this money for you guys to be who you are,
Speaker 4: let me see that.
Speaker 5: I need to see that. I need you to be the.
Speaker 4: Defense of the old days, back when the still curtain
Speaker 4: was here and we knew we was gonna come see
Speaker 4: a defensive game from them, and then you're gonna get
Speaker 4: a big player too, from Lin Swann to somebody out.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I want to see that.
Speaker 4: I want I feel like we had that kind of defense,
Speaker 4: and we had those kind of players here as a whole.
Speaker 4: So I would love to see the defense always be disruptive,
Speaker 4: always be dominant, always set the tone, have the hand
Speaker 4: on the ball at least twice a game, you know,
Speaker 4: do those things that big time top five defenses do,
Speaker 4: and then offensively just just score because we can score.
Speaker 5: We can move the ball. We showed that.
Speaker 4: I mean the last four or five years we talked
Speaker 4: about stackning offenses. We actually have an offense now that
Speaker 4: has moved the ball up and down the field.
Speaker 5: And you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So now now we know we can move the ball
Speaker 4: and it's not a big problem with what the scheme,
Speaker 4: how we're running things. We might want to run the
Speaker 4: ball a little more, but I just feel like in
Speaker 4: order for us to win the way we want to
Speaker 4: win here with what we have with our makeup, the
Speaker 4: defense have to start it. They have to be who
Speaker 4: they are. You know, it's no last week I can't
Speaker 4: see a last week game coming from my defense. Again,
Speaker 4: I understand it wasn't a defense fault that we lost
Speaker 4: that game, but even with that being said, they should
Speaker 4: have had.
Speaker 5: Josh Allen on his back at least once or seven times.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know what I'm saying, And I saw that
Speaker 2: many times.
Speaker 1: For me, I asked the question I ask you because
Speaker 1: I know you're going to answered just like you did.
Speaker 1: You ask that question a lot of times, and most
Speaker 1: people feel like they have to choose one side or
Speaker 1: the other. I feel teams winning on football games when
Speaker 1: you have both sides and special themes coming upping you out.
Speaker 1: And the ultimate thing about this team is the big
Speaker 1: dogs are the defense. We all know that, but offensively
Speaker 1: you garner a lot of confidence in those guys when
Speaker 1: they do it. I I want to see this team
Speaker 1: come out fast and star fast. Yeah you know, I
Speaker 1: don't care if the first play is a pass. You
Speaker 1: come out and you get positive yards. A four yard pass,
Speaker 1: a four yard run is positive in my book, because
Speaker 1: if you get four, you get three. You going third
Speaker 1: and three, you know, you can do whatever you want
Speaker 1: the book and I look at it a lot. A
Speaker 1: lot of people put the pressure on air, you know,
Speaker 1: to put the pressure on Jack. But ultimately for me,
Speaker 1: people that's getting paid the money to do this thing.
Speaker 1: Of the players, and I understand we need coaches, but
Speaker 1: I always tell people, I've never seen a great coach
Speaker 1: with out great players. I've seen a lot of great
Speaker 1: players without without great coaches, but I've never seen a great.
Speaker 2: Coach with out great players. So these players have to understand.
Speaker 1: You were drafted where you were, You're paid the money
Speaker 1: you paid to be big time players, and I think
Speaker 1: it's just that time where all of a sudden, like
Speaker 1: you stayed and you figured out a way to make
Speaker 1: the play work.
Speaker 2: I've had coaches tell me do it like this.
Speaker 1: I said, coach, you are the coach from Monday to Saturday.
Speaker 1: On Sunday, I'm the coach. I'm gonna do what the
Speaker 1: concept of the offense says. But sometimes that doesn't work.
Speaker 1: The player on that time on Sunday going in suddeny
Speaker 1: at one o'clock is not gonna do what you had
Speaker 1: the player do on the card. So when he does
Speaker 1: something opposite, I gotta adjust to make it work.
Speaker 2: As long as it work is all that matters for me.
Speaker 5: Who would be the hero?
Speaker 4: I mean when you I think you mentioned this a
Speaker 4: week ago, you need somebody to be a hero. Who's
Speaker 4: going to be that hero that step up this game
Speaker 4: that lead us to victory.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to a defensive player, and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say one. I'm gonna go with two guys because
Speaker 1: I think what they do they lead the whole personality
Speaker 1: of this football team, Jonathan Allen and Deron Payne. Because
Speaker 1: I think both of those guys by themselves are wrecking crews.
Speaker 2: But if they both go out there the three place series.
Speaker 1: We saw dorond in two weeks ago where he got
Speaker 1: a sack, he had attacker for lossy back theball. Now
Speaker 1: what if he does one series and John come to
Speaker 1: the other. Do you think chasing Monte is not gonna
Speaker 1: want to do it? You think the other guy's coming
Speaker 1: off the sideline ridgeway and all those guys are not
Speaker 1: gonna want to do it, And you think the offensive
Speaker 1: players are not gonna.
Speaker 2: Get a little little jealous and say, well, I gotta
Speaker 2: do something too as well.
Speaker 1: I've always felt that there's a very very good thing
Speaker 1: about constructive I mean constructive and that friendly competition. Every
Speaker 1: time I went on the field, we had this every
Speaker 1: it was like nine to ten of us. We had
Speaker 1: things that we had to acquire to We'll put one
Speaker 1: hundred dollars in per person per week, and you had
Speaker 1: things you had to acquire to be able to win it.
Speaker 2: So if I had to get a hundred.
Speaker 1: And seventy something yards total offense, one guy med get
Speaker 1: an interception. Running back got to get a hundred yards.
Speaker 1: But if one person does and stuff and nobody else
Speaker 1: he gets the money. You don't want me to get
Speaker 1: that money. So you go out there and you're competing,
Speaker 1: and we did it as because of that reason, and
Speaker 1: we won a lot of games based off of it.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't try to harm anybody. We were trying to
Speaker 1: go out there and we say, look, I.
Speaker 5: Can get mine every week, can you get your exactly?
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden it comes to a
Speaker 1: point where everybody is striving to play their absolute best,
Speaker 1: which in the turn makes it hardest hell for that
Speaker 1: defense to stop you from doing your job, whether your
Speaker 1: offense or when you flip it over and their defense
Speaker 1: got now stop us offensively. Yeah, you know, And I
Speaker 1: just think that that friendly competition, you know what, what's
Speaker 1: not going to be something harmful. It's going to help
Speaker 1: the team out. You have had it if I'm I
Speaker 1: can see myself if I was chased or hey, I
Speaker 1: may have more saxs you this game.
Speaker 5: I mean no, I trust me.
Speaker 4: I feel you because I'm smiling when you talk about
Speaker 4: the funny competition, because me and my friends to this day,
Speaker 4: you know, outside of playing.
Speaker 5: Football, but just how we live.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure you got guys you hang with or
Speaker 4: guys you can go have a drink with, to go
Speaker 4: you know, golf with. And when someone do something good,
Speaker 4: like we go bowling and my brother rollers strike, we
Speaker 4: have a we have a sin TAXI that mean I'm wanting,
Speaker 4: I'm going the same way, I'm coming behind you. So
Speaker 4: we got that from playing ball. When someone made a
Speaker 4: big play, tax a, I'm following you. So I mean
Speaker 4: you you hit it, you hit a spot on. I
Speaker 4: would say my hero needs to be on the offensive
Speaker 4: side of the ball. And I'm gonna say, b Rob,
Speaker 4: I think b Rob has made for what these guys have,
Speaker 4: you know, in their front seven, front five, whatever you
Speaker 4: want to call it, their front line and their linebackers.
Speaker 4: B Rob is a guy that he took it to
Speaker 4: them last year. It's a rookie, and I think we're
Speaker 4: gonna have to lean on him. And I'm not necessarily
Speaker 4: or primarily saying that we have to run the ball,
Speaker 4: stuff the ball, but I do believe teams like this
Speaker 4: that's made to stop your run, you have to you
Speaker 4: have to almost poke holes in them some other kind
Speaker 4: of way, then stuff it and shove it in them,
Speaker 4: because now when you get them crippled, when you get
Speaker 4: them to the point to where they so tired. Like
Speaker 4: we talked about stretching the field, making them run sideline.
Speaker 4: The sideline, now you have them planning into your wheelhouse,
Speaker 4: and now you can stuff that ball down. I'm gonna say, okay,
Speaker 4: now we can keep converting these third downs, moving the change,
Speaker 4: doing the things. But I think we can do that
Speaker 4: with rob And I think one of the things watching
Speaker 4: just from the past few weeks be Robbers in the game.
Speaker 4: Out the game, he was almost playing less plays than
Speaker 4: he did last week.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you see what I'm saying. So we have to
Speaker 5: find a way to implement him.
Speaker 4: And also in the passing game, he has to come
Speaker 4: in on the third down and say, okay, I'm going
Speaker 4: to be that back as well.
Speaker 1: With that, I think I think that people look for
Speaker 1: him in the game. They say they gonna run it.
Speaker 2: You're gonna run the ball.
Speaker 1: When ag comes in the game, they're gonna throw it. Well,
Speaker 1: they both of them do the same thing. I think
Speaker 1: that that throws the defense off a little bit, you know.
Speaker 1: But for me, I say this, this team has to
Speaker 1: understand when you put yoursela, you work so hard to
Speaker 1: put yourself in a position. We've had several interceptions that
Speaker 1: were hit and dropped. I mean hit in the hands
Speaker 1: and dropped. Jalen Hurst is giving people opportunities this with
Speaker 1: this our year, and he didn't do it as much
Speaker 1: last year. But I think right now something is just off.
Speaker 1: If a ball touched the defensive player hand come down
Speaker 1: with to come down with it, and offensive players, I
Speaker 1: don't care if you get the extra two yards makes
Speaker 1: you're at the end of the play, you're turning it
Speaker 1: back over to the ref to put it down for us.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm trying to say is you have
Speaker 1: to capitalize off opportunities that you get. You know, the
Speaker 1: football is hard, and you know last year they were
Speaker 1: the ones that turned the ball over, made the mistakes
Speaker 1: at the opportunity times, and we just have to do that.
Speaker 1: If we're smarter than them, have less penalties in them,
Speaker 1: and we win that turnover battle. As you always say,
Speaker 1: you win the football game time. I don't care who
Speaker 1: they are or who you're playing against. If you do
Speaker 1: those three things, you win the game.
Speaker 5: I think that's a good way to close this thing out.
Speaker 4: I feel like if you go out there talk about
Speaker 4: the turnovers, win that battle, and like I said before,
Speaker 4: you got Jalen Hurts, who's playing phenomenally the last two years,
Speaker 4: but already coming into this game and three games, got
Speaker 4: three picks. So that tells you offensively, and he's not
Speaker 4: seeing it the same way. We've touched a lot of
Speaker 4: balls this year and haven't came down with him. So
Speaker 4: come down with those those opportunities that we get. Don't
Speaker 4: give them the ball were planning their home, or then.
Speaker 5: Take it to them.
Speaker 4: We got to have a kind of mentality and who
Speaker 4: knows we should come away with a victory.
Speaker 2: And I believe this.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's this offense and defense, both even special teams.
Speaker 1: You have a game plan going into it. Why not
Speaker 1: have the attitude I'm gonna be the guy, you know,
Speaker 1: and that I'm gonna be the guy. May take fifteen
Speaker 1: more minutes tonight, fifteen more minutes in the morning to
Speaker 1: study what you have, and you may see something I
Speaker 1: have gone in the locker room and start looking at
Speaker 1: stuff and pick up something I didn't see all week
Speaker 1: and go in the game and see it, and it
Speaker 1: made it.
Speaker 2: I had a big playoff of it.
Speaker 1: I've also I used to always be the guy where
Speaker 1: Jim Johnson when I was here would tell me watch
Speaker 1: for the different fakes and stuff. So I had to
Speaker 1: learn that the defense was going against their offense. I'll say, Jim,
Speaker 1: that guy hadn't been in the game. They tried to
Speaker 1: do it play we get them. So somebody has to
Speaker 1: be able to make the play for whatever they think
Speaker 1: is going to help this team out, and it does.
Speaker 1: It's not always just your position. Keep your eyes open
Speaker 1: and learn the whole aspect of the game.
Speaker 2: You know. I was a former.
Speaker 1: Quarterback and I had to learn everybody's position. I told
Speaker 1: everyone do the same thing I'm doing. If we all
Speaker 1: know what each other has to do, we may see
Speaker 1: something that the person doesn't see and we can give
Speaker 1: him a little hint to help him out. So we
Speaker 1: hope that this team will go out here have a
Speaker 1: big victory, just like they did last year. If they
Speaker 1: walked in here in November. We're here now September. Let's
Speaker 1: close it out with a bang, and we finished this
Speaker 1: first our quarter at three and one, it'd be unbelievable.
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