WEBVTT - Behind Enemy Lines in Philly with Brian Mitchell and Santana Moss | Command Center Podcast Special | Washington Commanders 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:02.920 This is Command Center Special and this is Brian Mitchell 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:05.520 here with Santanna Mosas, and we're coming to you right 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:09.399 behind enemy lines in Philadelphia. In this episode of Command 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:14.000 Center Special, we're gonna be talking about matchups, memories, and who's. 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:16.880 Going to be our hero. Coming to you right now. 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:24.760 Command Center Special from Philadelphia is brought to you by 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.639 Northwest Federal Credit Union, the Fittier Credit Union of the 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.760 Washington Commanders invite you to stop searching, go Northwest. 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But you know about some memories we 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:03.959 had from here, some great moments and things like that, 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.520 and what we think needs to happen for the Commanders 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:08.440 to get a victory tomorrow Tantana. 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.080 You've come up here many times. 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.520 They call you the Cowboy Killer, but you did great 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:13.880 things against the Eagles as well. 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:17.080 What's the biggest moment you've ever had playing. 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:21.160 Here or even in back in in Landover against the Eagles. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.400 You know, one of my most fondest memories of this 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:29.280 matchup has the date back my first year a part 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.560 of this team, you know, in two thousand and five, 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.320 we actually came up here the last game of the season. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:40.200 We played these guys on New Year's Day, Wow, and 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.399 it was a part of the five game win streak 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.120 that got us into the playoffs that year. And I 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.360 remember that game being special because we had beat them 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:49.440 at home on I believe on a Sunday night game 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:51.800 and we had to face them again, just come off 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.080 for four game win streak, and we had to win this. 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.080 We had to win that game to have a great 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:57.280 slot in the playoffs. 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:57.760 And we won it. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:01:59.480 But it was a hard fork game and it's one 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:01.320 of those games where I don't even think I had 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.400 a touchdown. But it was just one of my fonnest 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.800 memories just knowing what it took for us to get 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.600 into postseason and we was facing a good team, you know, 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:10.000 in the Philadelphia Eagles back then. 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:11.880 I think you take this thing back to I don't 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.640 care how long you go nineteen ninety I started playing 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.120 against this evening. I ended my career up here playing 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.920 for them them. But the ultimate thing is, I don't 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:21.600 care how good Eighteam was. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.200 The battle was always great. You know. 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:25.560 I can remember the Body Bad game. 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.560 That's probably my biggest memory because everywhere I go somebody 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:30.760 remind me of it. We're playing against them and they 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.520 hurt basically nine people, and of the nine, I was 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.040 backing up four and you. 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:36.000 Was a quarterback that game. 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.000 I end up quarterback of that game by a return. 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:38.720 They pus that game. 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.440 We player running back that game, so I had to 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.320 do a lot of stuff. But the thing about it 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:47.240 is for me, and I'm very much like you. I know, competitive, 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:51.000 you are people. They were so happy about how they 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.760 were hurting people, and that pissed me off. And I 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:56.760 remember coach Gibbs saying, don't worry about it, We'll see 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.600 him again. And we came back up here in the 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.960 playoff and we knocked them out of the playoffs. 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:03.440 And when I came. 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.400 Here to play, everybody, man, you remember by the back game, 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.960 I see you remember the playoff game, you know, because 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.120 like the whole thing about me, I could be a jerk. Yeah, 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.639 like they were jerks in this town for the most point. 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:15.519 I wanted to be just like them, you know, because 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.040 if you're gonna sit up here and tell me about 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.440 the game when you got the upper hand, let me 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:21.960 know what you did when it mattered, and that's going 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:22.560 to the playoffs. 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:23.880 What is it about when it comes time? 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:25.560 Because you know, one of the things that always stands 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.040 out to me when we get ready to face the 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.840 teams in our division. You look at the records that 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.000 we have and I didn't realize we was leading the 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.240 series because you know, it been so competitive amongst these 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.920 two teams, but I feel like Philly have had the 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.720 edge in the past decade when it comes to wins. 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.920 What was it about what transpired back in the day 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:47.160 before I got here that made this game so competitive? 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.080 Because I know they talk about the Cowboy Game and 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:51.280 we know the Giants to me, has always been on 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:52.720 our toughest opponents our division. 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.119 What was it about this game and us? 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.560 Because I feel like this is where we got beat 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:59.800 up the most playing against Philly, Well, you got beat. 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.520 Up by the players because they were always tough. Buddy 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.080 Ryan came in with the mindset where we're going to 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.160 beat them up and see if they can have a 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.440 mental toughness to get through the game. And one thing 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:13.320 about coach Gibbs, who didn't curse. He rarely got highly upset. 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:16.120 But the man was as competitive as anybody, and he 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.400 raised us to be like that and coach us to 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.800 be like that. And I tell you that body bag 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:22.640 game I think had a lot to do with what 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.960 has transferred over the years now because think about it, 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.360 they normally come to Washington beat us, and we normally 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.840 come here and come and no matter how good they are, 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:31.720 we can knock them off. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.040 So I think the thing about it is that this 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:35.479 this a blue collar town. 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:41.400 The team was very very they weren't brash, the town 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.760 was brash. And after they had that game, they began 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.200 to ask for the team took on it because I 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:51.360 remember coming here and we played against the Giants and 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:52.840 it's like the Giants will always beat us. 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:54.640 I'm like, what the hell is this? 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.599 You know, like the boring game against the Giants and 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:00.080 we've seen to always take the ill. 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.120 So it's just like, you know, I really believe that. 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.159 You know, these towns are so close, and you see 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.120 him twice a year. And the thing about our division, 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.080 you may see the Cowboys in the playoffs, you may 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:13.960 see the Giants in the playoffs, you may see the Eagles. 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:15.960 And I think just playing a team twice a year 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.839 is enough. But when you got that playoff imprecations and 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:20.880 you can go to the super Bowl or not go 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:22.799 to the super Bowl based off a team of your division, 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.480 that makes everybody just have a little bit more, you know, 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.039 vitrol to come after the player, you know. 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.040 So for me, you know, I had that one. 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.400 And then I can remember coming up here in some 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.880 games where they were basically trying to kick the ball 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.800 away from me. And you know, that's the most frustrated 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.760 in the world. You practice all week, you want to 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.640 be out there. This is football, It's not keep away. 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:47.480 And I think Ray Rose was the head coach and 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:47.960 the punter. 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:49.160 I guess he's shank one. 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:51.920 And I timed I quite on the run boom cut 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.279 back score and I went back to the sideline. I 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.920 was telling the specialties coach. I said, I told you, 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:01.200 And after that game, he was team coach anymore. Wow, 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:03.720 So it just seems like they were they And then 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:07.200 when I saw that like they when I would play 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:11.320 against the Eagles, everybody talked but the special teams guys. 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.600 Everybody talked but the defensive backs. So I basically say, 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.360 I'm a make and I started trying. You know, yeah, 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.240 I call all of that bluff. I say, if you 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:21.719 tackle me, you won't make it through the game. 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:22.480 You know. 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.640 It was just that I just think that this team 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:27.760 brought everything out of you if you were a competitor. 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.719 So so so I want to ask this question leading 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.520 to this game this week against our team. Our team 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:37.080 just come off of a tough loss, you know, And 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:38.760 I mean it's one of those losses where you look 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.239 at and you say, man, you only could you force yourself? 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:42.880 And it's not like you went out there and just 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.240 played the kind of game that we've seen that these 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:45.880 guys played. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.640 You know, you know the two games before and. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.520 Although the Buffalo Bills, everyone kind of thought that the 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.240 Buffalo Bills was a better team than us, how do 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.200 you bounce back now you're facing the Eagles team. That's 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.039 what three and oh they might not be clicking on 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.480 offense the way they was clicking last year, but they 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.040 still putting up points. The run game seems to be 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.839 what second and none? They probably is second? Right now, 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.640 coming to this game, what is it that we have 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.000 to do as a team to come out of you know, 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:16.120 Philly with a victory. 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.200 Well, I think, first of all, we can't beat ourselves. 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.840 You look at the game last week against Buffalo. As 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.640 bad as we had played, that game was sixteen zero 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:28.400 going into the fourth quarter. You mess around when you 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.600 come out of the halftime, you have score seven. 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.040 You're looking at sixteen seven. That game goes anyway. 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:35.320 And I think the ultimate thing in the NFL. I 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.840 know you said every week about win the turnover battle. 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.720 He completely lost that. Yeah, okay, and then when we 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.560 lost it. I think what I look at football is 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.760 this way, the team that gets the upper hand has 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.680 control because now that team can relax and settle into 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:54.520 what they do best. And you watch with baltim I 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.320 mean Buffalo did against is Buffalo began to try to 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:58.240 run the ball a little bit. 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.960 Then they had Josh rain the ball to digs. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:05.600 They do every other play on second team routes, you know, scramble, drill, so. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:10.040 It made us press and already we're a young football team. 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:11.760 We have a young quarterback trying to get this thing, 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.000 an offensive line that I don't think has got their 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:15.200 chemistry completely. 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:15.600 Together just yet. 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.040 So when you're trying to click on that, because everybody 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:19.880 keeps saying, well, why didn't they stick to the run, 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:21.080 let's think about this. 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.480 When we went for fourth and goal, fourth and two, 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:25.720 it was whatever, we. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:29.240 Lost yours because they were ready for it. But then 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:32.000 when we started running later, they were more in prevent 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:33.800 They were trying to make sure we don't have no 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:34.960 big plays against them. 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:36.880 So yeah, there was a lot of spaces for us. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.360 But ultimately for me, you going to this game and 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.640 our defense steps up because our defense is going to 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.080 have to have a big game for us to get 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:44.720 a victory here. 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.440 If we can step up and kind of make Swift 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:48.800 have to work, make. 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.720 The office ask the way because they're passing game, as 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:51.800 you stated, is not. 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.800 Up to par right now. Their running game is legit. 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.400 This is where the six first rounders have to step 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.360 up and play and just don't turn the ball over. 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.600 And I think you got a chance because against a 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:07.480 division rival, it's nothing like playing against another team from 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:08.920 somewhere else because you don't see them all the time. 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:13.200 I was, I was liking it to Colorado, went to 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.840 Oregon and got embarrassed. I think today they did better. 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:18.800 Because they know that they see them enough. 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.040 Speaking of defense, you're talking about their I mean our 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.720 defense having to step up. Their defense one of the 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.720 best when it comes to stopping the run. And we're saying, 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.920 I've been here in all week. I'm pretty sure you're heard. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.719 It on your show. We need to run the ball more. 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:33.520 I heard you telling folks, you know, you don't necessarily 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:35.160 need to run the ball more. And don't look at 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:39.359 the yards that we did run well because those yardists 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:40.839 in the game where they were probably. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.560 Playing a little bit of the defense. You know. 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.040 Okay, safe fans, as we do go out there and 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.400 have that approach early, how do we match up against 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.080 the guys who they have on the other side, because 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.000 that defensive front is something else too, which you got 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.679 Fletcher Cox, you got with Jordan Davis. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.520 Jordan Davis Carter comes off the bench and he's probably 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:58.120 as good as anyone. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.640 You have some of the best guys on their defensive 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.319 front as well. You can look at it like how 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.520 fresh move mentioned. You could look at it as the 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.839 SEC matchup. They had Georgia, we got Alabama. You know 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.040 what I'm saying, So like save Fancy, we are trying 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.200 to take this game and have the approach that we 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.679 had last year. Last year, I feel like we ran 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:17.200 the ball well when we played them up here and 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.679 beat them in November. We ran the ball well. But 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.840 we haven't shown that yet this year with this new offense. 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.320 So do you think that's the approach against this team, 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.560 trying to establish the run or should we just like 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.760 how you know Logan Polston talk all the time about Santana. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:35.000 It's not about just running the ball. It's about sustaining 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.080 those drives. Basically, any way you can to move to change. 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.120 Butether we run a couple of times, dumble ball off 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.200 of two here and there, here, the splash paper, whatever 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:45.600 it is, is going to be sustaining drives. That's to me, 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:47.680 gives you a better chance than trying to force the ball. 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:48.920 Until when I running backs say, I. 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:50.880 Think if you sit up here and you this is 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.280 what I love about football. The fans can say what 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.160 the hell they want to say? Yeah, I said, The 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.600 media can say what the hell, we want to say, Eric, 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.160 Ron and Jack some of the people that come to 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.720 the final say so. And I played in his offense, 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:06.280 and I understand why. 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:07.439 Eric does what he do a lot. 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:09.800 You know, it's a lot of the passes are sometimes 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.640 trying to get the quick hit and then early on 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:13.960 you look, you go down the field and they do 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.680 the the zone or rezone or whatever. But the ultimate 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.959 thing is whether you're using the run and says of 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.880 the pass or vice versa, you have to execute the 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.400 play that you're calling. And the thing about it, everyone 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.560 said we should have stuck to the run. We weren't 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.640 executing enough. We moved right down the field, got inside 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:32.280 the twenty and we didn't get the we didn't get 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.640 the points. That's not the fact that we weren't running 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.600 the football. It's just that we didn't execute in the end. 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:41.320 And I think the ultimate thing for me is a 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.680 lot of the short passes are extensions of the run 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.520 in the West Coast offense, and that's what Andy Reid 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.880 will do, and I know that's what Eric does for me. 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.079 I think that we have to hit the plays when 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.680 we need to hit him. Like last year, the ball 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:57.760 hits Goddard bounces, hits his foot, somebody's there are intercepting 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:58.160 and run. 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.520 You know, we made the players when we need to 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:00.960 make them. 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.280 And so many times I listen to people and I 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.880 get frustrated because a lot of people don't understand this 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:06.439 old game. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.600 But I don't want to say you don't you don't 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:09.000 play the game. 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:09.240 Allow. 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:10.160 I don't want to be that guy. 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:16.840 But ultimately, if this offense goes out and execute on 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:20.720 the plays that are called, they can keep them off balance. Now, 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:25.560 I think the Cardinals showed us the recipe. I was 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:30.760 ready to stop a pass rushing team. Okay, they ran 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.520 right at Michael Parsons, they ran right at Lawrence. 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.160 Well, they got guys that like the pass rush. How 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:39.000 many pass. 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.520 Rush is like taking on a three hundred and twenty 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.800 three and thirty pounder. And I think for the offensive line, 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.040 they feel better when they're firing off instead of being passing. 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.360 So I think you got to find a delicate balance 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:50.480 into it, because you can't run the. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.520 Ball fifty times, and your damn sure, I can't throw 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.800 it fifty times, but you could get somewhere in between 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:55.439 and see what happens. 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:56.800 Yeah, I feel the same way. I think when it 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.440 comes down to just establish it the run, you should 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.040 try to get the ball and be rob Hans a 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.120 little more. I think he's a guy that's more than 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.440 ready to carry the load. But I think also with 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.840 just this offensive, you know, set up the way they 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.240 have things going on right now, that's not the makeup 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.200 of us right now. I do believe that we should 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.640 try at least I mean, he needs more than five 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.559 carries going into halftime. You know, you can't see your 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.400 start running back, and he's still averaging probably what seventy 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.600 yards apart twenty yards a game this year already within 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.320 three games. I feel like you do need to establish 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:28.960 a run. But I think one of the ways that 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:32.120 we can if we do necessarily or don't try to 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.920 establish a run when we do when we hit those players, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.240 whether we run the ball or getting the ball hands quick, 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.760 we want to get those guys up front, going side 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.360 the sideline, because those big guys. To me, I feel 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.360 like we get those guys tired enough, then we now 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.319 we got them playing, we got the advantage. Now we 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.480 can stuff it at him a couple of times, but 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.080 Stephan at them and they ready for it. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:53.640 Nah, that's not gonna be the rest. 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.480 That's why I kind of fight back when guys said 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.440 we have to run the ball so much early, because 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:03.320 it's not about necessary. Are you running it or passing it? 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.360 How many yards are getting on first down? Okay, if 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.200 you throw a pass and you get you know, young 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.800 quarterbacks normally wait for the guy to get open. Veteran 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.120 quarterbacks you play with them, they throw the guy open. 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.440 So when I drop back, if I don't see the guy, 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:19.120 if I throw it to a space where I know 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:20.840 he's going, he may show up and catch that ball. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.280 Because normally the defensive back is looking at the receiver 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.040 and the receiver is looking at the quarterback. But if 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.120 you run the football, do you gain yards or lose yards? 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:30.560 You know? 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:31.960 And I think that's what you have to come by 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.640 because you don't leave away from it. But when you 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.680 have the opportunity, because we had the ball first, we 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:41.040 went down, if we score there, we now put them 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.000 in a position because I learned now I don't care 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:47.320 how great the coordinators are. The team that gets the 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:51.360 first teschdown normally now dictates to them because the next 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.400 offensive coordinator is going to do what pull it in 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.840 the air, pull it in that because everybody, for some 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:57.880 reason seemly they got to get it all at one 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.400 in one big player. And I think if they just 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.480 find a way to whenever you get down there, at 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.520 that point is where you have to be more cautious 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.720 with the football. Turnovers in the red zone are the 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.760 absolute worst. Yeah, And if we can avoid things like 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:14.840 that and make sure we leave with points. If you 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.560 can't get the seven, at least get three, don't leave 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:18.440 with nothing at all. 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.880 Speaking of our turnovers, you think about it last week, 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.440 you know we had a lot of four interceptions I 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.920 believe you threw. And we coming to this game, you're 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.640 going up against two of the better defensive backs and 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.640 brad Berry and Slay and Slay might be top three 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:35.280 defensive deep cornerback. 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:37.160 Terry has his lunch with Terry. 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:37.560 Terry. 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.000 I was gonna say, he civilly reminds me of how 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.640 they get He gets up for Slave, how I got 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.120 up for the Cowboys, you know what I mean? 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.440 Like he had some for some odd reason. I don't 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:50.040 know what it is. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:53.480 And we've been talking about, you know, finding ways to 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.560 get Jahann active, and you I've heard you mentioned saying, hey, 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.160 he's not number one. You know, Terry's number one. But 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:00.880 even with that being say that, if you really watch 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:02.800 the film like I watched it, you know, all twenty two, 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.760 and you see the guys, see some of the routes 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.360 that's Terry running, it's not really the routes that we 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.640 probably want to see, you know, our big play guy having, 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:12.560 but you want to see him get the ball more 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.280 like to me, I feel like, do you think that 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.240 we need to because I'm looking at it like this. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.440 We can, we can get in the passing game and 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.800 try to affect those guys in the past game. But 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.800 if you dropping seven and rushing only four, then it's 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:27.920 come on. It's kind of one of those situations where 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.720 you know, you plan you they basically want him to 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:32.920 throw the ball so they can do what happened last week. 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.240 That's and that's the thing where when people tell me 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.560 about what we should do and shouldn't do if a 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:40.520 defense can win with four. 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.000 They dictate everything to you. 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.320 You know, but if you have if the officer line 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.200 I think plays just slightly a little bit more, not better, 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.800