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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. Dave Asprey Sean, thank you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so it really was interesting because how that taking

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Speaker 1: the truth. Yeah, and so it is frustrating, and I

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Speaker 1: realized that I'm going to be frustrated until I have

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Speaker 1: fight from the top, you know. And so and so

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Speaker 1: were you involved the end of the casting of the series.

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Speaker 1: I was involved in in everybody in every bit and

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Speaker 1: maybe a bit of it. So so we're a bit

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Speaker 1: right approach to the whole process. Yeah, now June team. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years ago, you know, we

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Speaker 1: were writing, you know, we was talking about your writing

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Speaker 1: career and and I had some projects to be coming

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Speaker 1: got a job, but it doesn't feel like a job.

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Speaker 1: And so one is one of the things that that

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Speaker 1: this one for you. I'd gone because I have been

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Speaker 1: doing shows like and this. I'm gonna preface this by

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Speaker 1: saying that this is not an on anyone. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: anyone's work, you know, but I'm doing work with buying

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Speaker 1: Byron Allen. And you know, so Tyler period isn't that

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Speaker 1: and so it mean, it was fine, but I learned

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Speaker 1: that we I want to tell different stories than you

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Speaker 1: know they do, you know. And I worked with Tyler

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and when I came back here to work,

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Speaker 1: people would will say, I don't want to hire a

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Speaker 1: it wasn't recognized here. So I work with Byron Allen

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Speaker 1: and it was kind of the same type thing because

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Speaker 1: and you know, again me the storytelling wasn't what I

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Speaker 1: doing it for the money. I was doing it for

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Speaker 1: the money, you know, because I have kids and they

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Speaker 1: enjoyed eating every day. You know. So what you told

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Speaker 1: than the shows I'm doing. And I was gonna always

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Speaker 1: be frustrated if I kept doing it, and I would

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Speaker 1: always stay in that in that lane if I didn't stop.

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Speaker 1: So so the next season, I told Byron Allen know

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Speaker 1: I did that and for a while things didn't go right,

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Speaker 1: and I kised your name if I pick account and

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Speaker 1: it's just shrinking. Man. But what happened was I got Disney,

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Speaker 1: So things got a little bleak first, but I got Disney,

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Speaker 1: get there from where it was. But it was an

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Speaker 1: even back further because because it's happening with us a

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Speaker 1: in Houston, and I'm thinking, all right, cool, And because

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Speaker 1: that you're a big child, you had to hit up

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Speaker 1: out and everything, and I'm behind the curtain watching you

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Speaker 1: and orders hoping you would laugh. And then when you did,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's because that validated me, who know

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Speaker 1: what I was doing something, because because it's hard to

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Speaker 1: make you you you laugh? Well, you know, you know

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Speaker 1: that that's the beauty of our relationship and the beauty

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Speaker 1: I've been trying to get Anthony on this show for

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Speaker 1: lot of people should hear, and he should tell it

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Speaker 1: a lot more. By the way. Uh. He's the co

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Speaker 1: He's on the show today to talk about his latest book,

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Speaker 1: overcome the worst versions of ourselves. Jacob spent much of

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Speaker 1: us now us conquer our inner darkness and overcome such

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Speaker 1: welcome to money making conversation. Some behind. I'm stating a

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Speaker 1: long term r to him in the airport a couple

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Speaker 1: of a couple of months ago, Pastor John Gray the Third,

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Speaker 1: my friend, be with you today. Feeling good, feeling good? Man.

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Speaker 1: You know. Uh, actually the previous time I saw you

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl ceremony for BT. It was the NFL Acquire

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Speaker 1: celebration and Joelo Steve's church, and you was crushing it. Man.

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Speaker 1: He's funny, you know that. Man. I was trying. They

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Speaker 1: put me up there last minute. I was like, now

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Speaker 1: y'all got some other hosts. I won't have they checked.

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Speaker 1: I just happened to be there. Oh my good you were.

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Speaker 1: You were there. But there's just been a journey man. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, the little side know about me and Pastor

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Speaker 1: John graded Third. Uh we met, Uh just just I

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Speaker 1: guess it was just one of those moments in life

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Speaker 1: how you just meet people, and how my life has

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Speaker 1: always been able to introduce people to their their their

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Speaker 1: course of life, their dream or or something they're trying

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Speaker 1: to see. Uh. Steve Harvey and I we were at

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Speaker 1: And this young man came up to me. Didn't know him,

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Speaker 1: didn't know him. And it was funny because Steve said,

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Speaker 1: who is that? I said, he said, he's funny and

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Speaker 1: he wants to go on stage. He said, what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna do? I say, he brother, everybody deserves a shot.

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Speaker 1: And it was funny because you know, it's how life is.

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Speaker 1: And he believe me. He was funny too. He was

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Speaker 1: very funny and just tell him to experience that. John Man. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that was rip Sack. I think it was a show

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Speaker 1: John McGee, five minutes you know to to open and

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here and I'm looking at you already a

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Speaker 1: legend Steve Robber's back there already a legend. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting here and I got a one bad room apartment

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Speaker 1: in South Jersey for a tourist in the back of

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Speaker 1: the NJ pack And it was like, you know, it

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Speaker 1: I got up there and I did my piece. I

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Speaker 1: and he said, and Steve wants you to introduce him.

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Speaker 1: And that was like the greatest honor to be able

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Speaker 1: to stand amongst giants. And at that time I was

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Speaker 1: and we know, uncle Steve, he'll put some words together

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Speaker 1: they show um. But the fact that I was able

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Speaker 1: and already I'm like getting emotional, But for me, when

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Speaker 1: figure and don't have many of your life, you look

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Speaker 1: to see what excellence looks like. And for my all,

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Speaker 1: As long as I keep my heart pewer. I figured

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Speaker 1: So on that day for you guys to accept me,

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Speaker 1: value in me. And that helped me. It propelled me,

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Speaker 1: and it gave me some confidence to keep going, push

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Speaker 1: on through. And so I just had to say, you

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Speaker 1: an eye opener, uh, and it was it was wonderful. Man.

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Speaker 1: I was reading your book, Pastor, just tell you was

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Speaker 1: in some notes to me, brother, some me, I have this, well,

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Speaker 1: I have this, Uh, I have this uh in my

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Speaker 1: next to the lake. And you know when when everyone

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Speaker 1: times were always tough for me, I would not when

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Speaker 1: it when it was when you know in life, you

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Speaker 1: know this, Pastor John, is that sometimes only you can

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Speaker 1: make that decision. You can you can see counseling, you

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Speaker 1: can to talk to friends, but that ultimate decision has

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Speaker 1: to be made with you. And so when you're making

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Speaker 1: a decision, it's only one person you're making that decision

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Speaker 1: with that's God. A lot of people don't understand that.

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Speaker 1: And when I would go, when I go to that

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Speaker 1: rock and sit down, that's all I'm talking about. That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm looking at that water, I'm looking at God,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at that grass, I'm looking at myself. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at I'm looking at my reflection. And so when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about that weariness, man, that's what you're talking

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Speaker 1: That's a very powerful statement that you're talking about. That

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Speaker 1: they expound on that a little bit forward their pastor

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Speaker 1: well this this idea of when you talk about weary,

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Speaker 1: people need to understand there's a difference between being tired,

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Speaker 1: being sleepy being weary, because being tired means you need rest,

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Speaker 1: mean sleepy means you need sleeping. Weary need means you

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Speaker 1: need to have your soul replenish. Because when you're weary,

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Speaker 1: you've actually taken from the substance of who you are

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Speaker 1: and giving it to people and haven't received in return.

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Speaker 1: When you do that, those are upside down transactions. And

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Speaker 1: what happens is you will feed on things you talked

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Speaker 1: about natural food like donnuts and candy. You'll feed on

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Speaker 1: empty calories that actually satisfy you. That's how David ended

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Speaker 1: up with bad Sheepa. He was weary. Okay, that's how

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Speaker 1: Sampson ended up with Delilah. He was weary. Because when

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Speaker 1: you get so weary that you don't see right from all,

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Speaker 1: you start making bad decisions. And it's not because you

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Speaker 1: want to fail. It's actually because you want to heal

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Speaker 1: and don't know how to do it the right way. See,

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of people bashing people because they make bad decisions.

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Speaker 1: Nobody wakes up in the morning saying I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to fail my family. We are all human and we

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Speaker 1: have challenges, difficulties, and we make bad decisions, and many

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Speaker 1: of them are because we're weary and we're trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out how to get back to the place called balance,

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Speaker 1: and balance is and and balances and illusion Rassin. Let

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Speaker 1: me just say this. When people are like, how do

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Speaker 1: you find the balance between ministry and family, there is

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Speaker 1: no such thing. Balance means both things are equal. Ministry

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Speaker 1: can never weigh more than my wife and kids, and

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Speaker 1: it did. That's why my wife was like, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to my mama's house. Because you're married to the church

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Speaker 1: and you're dating your family. And so for me, I

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Speaker 1: needed to re calibrate and say this family that God

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Speaker 1: has blessed me with these two children, that these blessed

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Speaker 1: me with even though I feel inadequate as a husband

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Speaker 1: and as a father, because I never saw that. I

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Speaker 1: need to put my roots down and start building right here,

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Speaker 1: because if I make decisions when I'm weary, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: lose it all. And nobody will know that what I

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Speaker 1: did wasn't because I was in lust or in addiction,

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Speaker 1: because I was weary. So I got some therapists and

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Speaker 1: I and I got a Bible, and I got some

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Speaker 1: prayer and I did all three of them. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not ashamed to say it. Come on, and when when

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Speaker 1: you talked about weariness with Samson, Samson totally strength was

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Speaker 1: his hair. God blessed hims. As long as you don't

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Speaker 1: put the razor to your hair, you would have strength.

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Speaker 1: He's weariness. He gave the lie of the truth. Now

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Speaker 1: on David, instead of going off the war. He up

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Speaker 1: there on top of his palace, looking around. He looked

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Speaker 1: over as he but she obathing. He telling him to

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Speaker 1: bring her to him, and they have they make love

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Speaker 1: or sex. You know what I'm saying. So that's the

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Speaker 1: weariness he's talking about, because you you make decision that

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Speaker 1: aren't right for yourself, but you do them anyway because

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Speaker 1: have me start preaching with you. Man, I'm about to

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Speaker 1: start preaching, man, come on now, come on now, the

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Speaker 1: beauty of that's what I said without reading this book. Man,

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Speaker 1: It's like, here's this is what I wrote this out

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Speaker 1: of the book. It says it's the stew. He said,

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Speaker 1: the stew, and then he's gonna explain to you what

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Speaker 1: the stew is. The stew is no joke. It tastes

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Speaker 1: good going down. It's a tasty death. It's a tasty end.

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Speaker 1: You dab the corners of your mouth because it satisfies

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Speaker 1: in that moment, in an instant though everything has changed,

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Speaker 1: it's all talk about that, Stu Pastor. I'm getting ready

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Speaker 1: a property that was given to the mother that said

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Speaker 1: You've got favor for the rest of your life and

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Speaker 1: I pad this for a book. I've had this for

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850
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Speaker 1: do independent projects. Why is that so important to you?

851
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: Because man, it's it's a well, first of all, just

852
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: how creative you're able to be, you know, um, within

853
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: within lit those uh so called boundaries, um, because there

854
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: really aren't any, right and and um it's also it's

855
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: about the work. You know, you know when when it's

856
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: an independent project so to the time, there's not a

857
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: lot of money involved, and uh, you know, I love

858
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: what I do. So it's about the art. It's about

859
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: the art of it and the story that you're trying

860
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: to tell, you know, um, or just being a part

861
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: of something that that is bigger than just what's on

862
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: the paper, you know. It's it's really interesting when I

863
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: when I look at your career and I look at

864
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: the characters you play, you know how how difficult is

865
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 1: to go from drama the comedy or comedy the drama?

866
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: Is that just is that something natural you are, This

867
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: something that you've you've you've you wanted to do in

868
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: your resumes. It's it's it's supernatural. It's supernatural because it's

869
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: like I think about, man, every day is dr but

870
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: you gotta laugh at you gotta laugh at it, man,

871
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: you know, and I think, uh, you know, um to

872
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: answer your question a little bit better, man, I started

873
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: off doing drama first, you know, I want to uh

874
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: High School of Performing Arts in New York which is

875
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: now called LaGuardia. You know, I really got accepted to Juilliard,

876
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: that chose to go to Howard University. Everything started off

877
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: with more drama anyway. Comedy is just something that I

878
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: just happened to be good at, I guess and and

879
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: and made a living doing that as well. So it's

880
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: it's it's not it's not hard to go back and

881
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: forth at all, you know, because again, we deal with

882
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: enough drama to be able to laugh about it. You know,

883
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: I love talking to talent people. They make it seem like,

884
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: you know, no big deal, you know, back and for

885
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: off yas Listen, listen, you know I'm talking about you

886
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking You know this show comedy. Comedy

887
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: is definitely harder. You know, it's definitely because because because

888
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: it's about timing, it's right, right, mean, and it's one

889
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: of those things where you can't teach that, you know

890
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean you can, you can, but

891
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: it's it's it's if it's natural and and you know,

892
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: it's just this is one of those things that makes

893
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: it happy. Yeah. Yeah. So now let's talk about the

894
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: movie Misguided Behavior. Uh. First of all, he's very drama

895
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: dramatic in this movie, okay um um. But also you

896
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: you went behind the lens, you know how difficulty. Let's

897
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: let's talk about the movie just how everybody move. This

898
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: is a movie that I'm I'm blessed to be an

899
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: executive producer in the movie. It's an anti bullet movie.

900
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: It's about the typical situation that he's a young man

901
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: who's being bullied and he has to appen. He lives

902
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: in a lifestyle that you say, why is he underrash?

903
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: Why is he not? In fact, where was his parents?

904
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: Where his parents were always always there for this young man.

905
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: Father was in a little bit of denial about what

906
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: was going on. Mother was overly concerned. So you had

907
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: a confidict right there. You have to over the cons

908
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: her mom and dad said be a man, be a man,

909
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: be a man. But neither one of the parents was

910
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: listening to the young man's emotional pain. And that's what

911
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: this movie is about. Uh. I throw it back to you.

912
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to just set it up for your call

913
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: because it's really a movie that more and more people

914
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: should be aware of and parents should exposed and teachers

915
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: should expose these young adults to this movie, right right.

916
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean that was the thing that drew me to it,

917
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: the story of it all. As a matter of fact,

918
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: once I started doing the film, you know, I had

919
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: hit home even more so because my my son, my

920
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 1: youngest son, was actually going through that and I didn't

921
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: even know it. You know, he was actually, you know

922
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: the same thing was happening right at home and I

923
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: did not even know it. And you know, we have

924
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: to stop. We have to first of all. First of all,

925
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: everything starts in the home. Everything starts at home, you know.

926
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: And yes, we have to hold ourselves as well as

927
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: the teachers who we leave our children with for the

928
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: majority of the day the same thing, you know, you know,

929
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: and so we have to have these dialogues. I have

930
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: to have these conversations. Then we have to be able

931
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: to recognize things that that are unsaid. Man. I appreciate

932
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: you getting on the call and go do what you

933
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 1: gotta do. Okay, yes, sir, yes, sir, I mean Chicago

934
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: shooting this Christmas film right now. But you know, we

935
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: could be putting the gang back together. So we're about

936
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: to bring um about. You know, we're about to bring

937
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: that funny man. But everybody's been asking about this reboot.

938
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: So well, that's another interview that's you know, I know

939
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: about that. That's another interview that I'm gonna bring a

940
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: couple of all on my show, sidemortainous you talk about that,

941
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: so now now that's what I'm bringing you back for

942
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: that one. On that one call. Okay, all right, stay

943
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 1: strong man, and stay warm in Chicago. Oh yeah, for shure,

944
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: it's cold out here. I know, right, my next guest,

945
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: he's here live in studio. I tell you. Last time

946
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: he was a studio with me was in uh Los

947
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: Angeles Steve Harvey Morning Show. You know, he's just gotta

948
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: stay busy anyway. He's appeared in more one hundred movies

949
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: beginning the nineteen eighties, and critics including Minutes to Society,

950
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: Did Presidents, Why do Food? Fall of Love, Rush Hour,

951
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: Next Friday? Whoa? And I've been loving him recently because

952
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: he he hadn't died maybe three times. And one of

953
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: my favorite series on c W called Black Lightning. Please

954
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: work with the show. Clifton Pole, good to be here.

955
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,959
Speaker 1: How you doing they Clifton, how you're doing? Man? I'm good.

956
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm happy you came by. We're talking

957
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: about the movie I just hung up with with our

958
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: call Call Paying and regards to the misguy, that behavior,

959
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: and you play a dominant role in there mini roles.

960
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: First of all, let's talk about your career a little bit. Man.

961
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: You're busy, bro, You're a working actor. You know, that's

962
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: what people strive for in Hollywood, a working actor. Yeah,

963
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: I want to be a football player. So I'm you know,

964
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of like blessed that I've had such

965
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: a long career. I really, I really just really want

966
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: to be a football player. And you know, my nephew

967
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: is the sportscaster James Brown. You know, jb J. Was

968
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: a basketball star in DC. Absolutely, so, Um, I ended

969
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: up going to the Matha trying to play basketball. But

970
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: I and I played a little bit of football. And

971
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: I grew up in the hood. You know, it was

972
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: before you went to training and all that stuff. Um,

973
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: so I didn't get to you know, get the kind

974
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: of support you know that was really fast and I

975
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: was good. And so after football, I really had no

976
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: desire to be anything other. I was gonna be a

977
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: bus driver. I come out of the hood, and I

978
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't well I couldn't. I didn't play football,

979
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: So I didn't know what I was gonna do. So

980
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: I was gonna be a bus driver because somebody told

981
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: me bus drivers made six dollars and fifty cents, and

982
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: so you know, um, then I you know, God had

983
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: another plan, and so you know, once I got into it,

984
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: I was. I tell all the students that you know,

985
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: I was the worst actor in my program, and I

986
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: had to work harder than anybody else. And um, I

987
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: had a little bit of tragedy. My dad had a

988
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: nervous breakdown, and they were gonna I had to drop

989
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: out of the program. And they decided, you know, even

990
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: though I was a little bit of a knucklehead when

991
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 1: I got there, because I wouldn't wear my lead tards

992
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: and tight. Debbie Allen was my dancy and uh and

993
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: uh so you know, one of the teachers, God rest

994
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: his soul, Charles Brown, who's a fabulous actor, came to me.

995
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: He said, man, you gotta put your leotis and tightson,

996
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: and you're scaring everybody, you know, a little rough around here,

997
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: a little edgy. And so finally I put my tights on,

998
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: and then I stayed in the program, and then you know,

999
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: I went to Emerson and then I got to New York.

1000
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: I think in uh seventy nine, and Sam and Denzel

1001
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: and all those guys were there, and I just knew

1002
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: that that if I kept myself together, uh And I

1003
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: don't think any of us really thought about Hollywood. We

1004
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: just wouldn't want to be a working actor. And then

1005
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: I got to L A and eighty nine and and

1006
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: you know, for those first five or six years, I

1007
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: was unemployed and you know, doing all kind of clerical

1008
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: work and counseling and stuff. And then you know, when

1009
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: I went to auditions, I would just go in so prepared.

1010
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: So when I went in and did Rock was the

1011
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: first show that kind of like introduced me to the public.

1012
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: I went in it was for a cracked out crack dealer.

1013
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: And I had met Charles Dutton at a beach party

1014
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: and I knew a friend of his, my buddy Walter Ben.

1015
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: I said, man, I'm I'm a friend of Mr Bennis.

1016
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: He's all right, man. So two weeks later, I'm auditioning

1017
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: and he comes down the hall and every everybody else

1018
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: got on T shirts and jeans. I look like a crackhead,

1019
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: dirty clothes, dirty teeth, hair with dirt in my hair.

1020
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: So Charlie said, I got in the room and he said,

1021
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, they really got a real damn crackhead of it.

1022
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: And uh so, once I booked that, I just kept

1023
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: on booking him. The rest is his sheep, you know.

1024
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: But one thing I want to say to the young

1025
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: people I did. It's preparation meeting opportunity, that's all it is.

1026
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: They got a real cracking because I would go and

1027
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: I did a tour duty with Miguel New Year's and

1028
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: I came in full army dress and the man said,

1029
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: where are you from. I said, I'm just I'm from

1030
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: New York. I'm just trying to get a job. And

1031
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: then I did my monologue from the hallway. By the

1032
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 1: time I finished, they said, you know what, You're gonna

1033
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: be the guy just wow, you know. So it's just

1034
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: it's just about training and preparation and also willing to

1035
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: go there and willing willing to go there, and and

1036
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: but then you know, I got a note from one

1037
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: casting director and said tell him not to wear the

1038
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: whole army suit next time. So I was a different audition.

1039
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: So sometimes they don't like you to go all the

1040
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: way go there. But it worked in my behalf, and

1041
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm just blessed to be a Well it's been working

1042
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: because you've been busy, and you've been being consistently busy,

1043
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: and I know that. I was just telling, you know,

1044
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: I've been a casting writer and all that, so I

1045
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: know how the wood is especially for African American men.

1046
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: I want to bring you back, you know, because you know,

1047
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: just call man. You ain't gotta come and studio talk loan.

1048
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: It's all good. Yeah, we sort of stopped paying attention

1049
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: and racked up a lot of debt. Yeah, it was stressful.

1050
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: He blamed me for my credit card debt and I

1051
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: blamed him for building that man cave. It's awesome. Anyway,

1052
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: we stopped blaming each other. Dinner homework and read that

1053
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: a smart way to consolidate debt is to get a

1054
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: fixed rate loan. But getting a loan was brutal and

1055
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: a time drain. So I was in my man cave

1056
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: researching personal loans and I found best Egg. They have

1057
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: an A plus rating with the B B B and

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