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Speaker 1: January twenty fifth, nineteen eighty seven, The Rose Bowl, Pasadena, California,

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Speaker 1: l Way Sims Parcels Belichick lt A tale of two

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Speaker 1: halves and a quarterbacking performance of the Ages. Are we

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Speaker 1: going to Disney World? This is Super Bowl twenty one. Hello,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Games with Names, presented by Win Bett.

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Speaker 1: I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Sam Morrel, and we're on a

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Speaker 1: search to find the greatest games of all time. And

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Speaker 1: on today's episode, we're talking Super Bowl twenty one. The

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Speaker 1: New York Jets versus the Denver Broncos the Giants. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's the Giants. Are you sure? I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: some people wish it was the Jets. Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: It's the Giants. It's the Giants. We'll be joined by

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Speaker 1: legend Phil Simms in studio, in studio perform. That's why

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing this. That's why I'm wearing this. I think

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Speaker 1: you might be converting Man five and one Giants rolling. Eh. Well,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna check on what was going on in nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty seven. Yeah, Branuary break down this classic Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and then wrap it up by naming and scoring the game.

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Speaker 1: Make sure to follow games with names on social YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok,

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Speaker 1: review and communicate. Yeah, you know what the key tot

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Speaker 1: success is communication. Communication. That's that's what happens when you

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Speaker 1: know we're succeeding. We're on the same same, same, same chemistry,

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Speaker 1: same page. That's what it is. Why are we doing

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Speaker 1: this game? I mean in first Giant super Bowl, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty big. A lot of championships with this was the big,

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Speaker 1: the big, first super Bowl. So many fun personalities here

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Speaker 1: that we teased it, but lt one of the most

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Speaker 1: fun ever. Sims, who is your coworker, mister Simms. Love

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Speaker 1: mister Sims. Love mister Simms. He had one of the

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Speaker 1: best quarterbacking performances in Super Bowl history. I believe you

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Speaker 1: only had like three incompletions. What was the stat line?

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Speaker 1: Twenty two for twenty eight two hundred and sixty six yards,

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Speaker 1: three touchdowns, five straight scoring drives in the I thought

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Speaker 1: that was just in the second half. Really, I think

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Speaker 1: that was just in the second half. We'll get that

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Speaker 1: cleaned up. Okay. But Phil Simms sets the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: record for eighty eight percent completion rate. It was the

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Speaker 1: first Super Bowl win, like we already stated for the

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Speaker 1: New York Football Giants. But we have Lway on the

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Speaker 1: other side of this, young John Elway, young guns Stanford

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Speaker 1: kid l Way. Yeah, pretty boy didn't. He wasn't. Eve.

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Speaker 1: One of the first to not sign with the team

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Speaker 1: the time. He said, no way, I'm gonna go play

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Speaker 1: for the Yankees. Instead, they trade him to the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: Becomes a Bronco legend. And this is before he got

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowls and he was humbled by mister Simms

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Speaker 1: and the New York Football Giants. Yeah. He won at

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Speaker 1: the end one at the end. Yeah, but he got

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Speaker 1: humbled a couple times in the Super like he got

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Speaker 1: blown out by the Niners. Yeah, he got blown out here.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't until they went to that running game with

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Speaker 1: Terrell Davis. Yeah, Mi grains remember that he always had.

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Speaker 1: Mike said a Migrains. Yeah, I do remember that, Sam,

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Speaker 1: you were right twenty two of twenty five. My math

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Speaker 1: was off. Oh yeah, twenty two of twenty five. Oh

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Speaker 1: you ever disrespect miss Let me tell that again. Don't

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Speaker 1: you ever disrespect mister Simms twenty two of twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Like mister Burden. Oh yeah, they call me mister Tibbs.

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Speaker 1: Remember that from the In the Heat of the Night

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Speaker 1: Sydney Paudier. I like mister Pib. Mister Pib is good,

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Speaker 1: better than Doctor Pepper. Just has like thirty times more caffeine. Really,

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Speaker 1: I think that that was the their selling point. It

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Speaker 1: had way more caffeine. Remember jolt I was just gonna say,

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Speaker 1: that's insane that you just said that. Dude. They had

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Speaker 1: jolt gum. Yeah, you have to be a real piece

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Speaker 1: of shit kid to be chewing Jolt gu on your skateboard,

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Speaker 1: just chewing the nineties. Serge was the other one. Serge

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Speaker 1: like it was like an avalanche of kids just like running.

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Speaker 1: only imagine with I think they had like three hundred

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Speaker 1: spicy cherry. Damn. There was always the There was always

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Speaker 1: the uh, like the rumor or like the oh my,

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Speaker 1: it prune juice? No? What is it? Jase? Let me

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Speaker 1: check on that quick, fron juice. But let's go back

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Speaker 1: January twenty seventh, nineteen eighty seven. On this day, the

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Speaker 1: number one movie in America was Critical Condition. You can't

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Speaker 1: see that. I don't even know what. I don't either,

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Speaker 1: what is it? I don't Let's move on, move on,

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Speaker 1: move on, move on. The number one song in America

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Speaker 1: at this point or at this moment by Billy Vera

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Speaker 1: and the Beaters. The Beaters? Was Chris Brown in that group?

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Speaker 1: What the I guess he would have been too young?

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Speaker 1: What who? I don't know that song? Can we get

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Speaker 1: a sample? This was? Will legal allow it? Can we

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Speaker 1: play a sample? All right? Forget it? Sorry? No legal.

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Speaker 1: But Aretha Franklin inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall

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Speaker 1: she was a she could sing legend. I was at

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Speaker 1: Lower Roast. I was in the crowd and she sang

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Speaker 1: it's not over till the fat lady sings. Oh that

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Speaker 1: this is a roast dude. That's gnarly. Yeah comedy, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: straight for jugulars full House premieres. Yeah. Unfortunately, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: for a house in the market in Los Angeles. Shed

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Speaker 1: nothing but insane things. Really everyone he's you know, left

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Speaker 1: a great impact dude. He knew everyone. He was like

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Speaker 1: friends with Rodney Dangerfield. I mean he's been around forever.

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Speaker 1: You know. I'll tell you I love this. My mother

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Speaker 1: do right. I'm back to schools. Like my favorite comedy

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you're easy. Like there's so many hard

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Speaker 1: laughs in that movie Killer Oh. The Simpsons Debuts is

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Speaker 1: but I don't get there. You don't get the reference.

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Speaker 1: I never saw Beverly Hills Cop three. The first two

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Speaker 1: are Killer Killer, Light's Out, Mike Tyson's punch Out. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I remember that shit. I do. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: still got it. I mean I do tip my hat

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Speaker 1: to that man that was jawing Mike Tyson. I don't

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Speaker 1: he sucked. I mean, I don't understand, like this guy's

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the nineteen eighty six eighty seven NFL season.

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Speaker 1: Bo Jackson was the first overall pick to the Tampa

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Speaker 1: not the Golden Shower. It was not, but it could be.

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Speaker 1: Could have been lemon lime, could have been lemon lime.

419
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: It's kind of close. Depends. That's that's I always liked

420
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 1: lemon lime or fruit punch. I like the ridge kind

421
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: of mind too. Although the blue is pretty good too.

422
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: And they have an ice one. There's like some ice flavor. No,

423
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: it's it's like a blue ice, light blue, pretty delicious.

424
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: Back in the day, you would win ship from Gatorade.

425
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 1: They would have the glass Gatorade bottles and they would

426
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: have prizes under the cap here. He was a great hack.

427
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: Lemon ice was the clear flavor. You could just straight

428
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: up look under and see if you want. So, I

429
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: just always win. I remember those two. I think, yeah,

430
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: but it didn't. It didn't. It wasn't better than the

431
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: McDonald's monopoly Dude that I was like a fat kid

432
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: because of that game. I had tits because of that

433
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: fucking because I thought I was gonna get boardwalk, and

434
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: I was. I was stuck on park Place like a

435
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,479
Speaker 1: degenerate gambler. It was terrible. I wonder if they did

436
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: it like regionally, like there's like one Broadway over here,

437
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 1: one park Place in like New Hampshire, because I had

438
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: dreamed I remember dreaming about that watching blank Check that

439
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: remember that movie blank Check. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna

440
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: get boardwalk in park Place or whatever it was. They

441
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: were really raising like the most unhealthy kids because you're

442
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: a gambler and you're eating McDonald's, just you're raising disgusting people.

443
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: That was me, I mean that was America. I was

444
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: all in on it, dude. And then you'd be like

445
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,719
Speaker 1: fucking you know, oh, he'd be like Atlantic Avenue, Who

446
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: gives shit? What are the bad ones? Like Railroad? Yeah,

447
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: railroad that hurt. Let me get two hundred dollars for gas?

448
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: What was? What was? What were the really bad ones

449
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: with like the shittiest the Reds. The Reds were okay

450
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking. I'm thinking like the like Kentucky Avenue, Yeah, no, good,

451
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Avenue, Cares, Tennessee Avenue, Virginia Avenue, yeah, Avenue, Mediterranean

452
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: Avenue Mediterranean. They get weird of everything, throwing like oriental

453
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: and you're like, wait a second, who made this game?

454
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: Bunch of racists? The Gaming Corner presented by wind Bet.

455
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: Uh So, the Giants were nine point five and they

456
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: covered minus nine and a half points. Yeah, yikes, over

457
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: and under forty one points that went over. I mean

458
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: they just crush them in the second half. They never

459
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: look back. I mean I bet you a lot of

460
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: gamblers got heard on this one. Yeah, because nine and

461
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: a half points in a super I don't care who

462
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: you got, you got the Giants. See, I'm a new

463
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: g I'm still new to this, so actually I should

464
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: just keep my mouth shut. Well what should we do?

465
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: What should our bet be with sims? How about how

466
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: about if we say how many times we can say

467
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants. I mean it's like just

468
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: the classic word we have to the New York Football Giants.

469
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna set the line up. What are you thinking, Jack,

470
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: what do you think we can hit? I think five

471
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: and a half sounds reasonable. Five and a half that's

472
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: not that many we could definitely that's easy, I mean

473
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: easily do five and a half. Yeah, I would take

474
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: the we'll see, we'll see what the listeners think. Maybe

475
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: we'll get it, maybe we won't. All right, well, we're

476
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Speaker 1: gonna have Phil Sims in the studio joining us. Excited,

477
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: rare to get a guy in the studio. But it is,

478
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: you know, we're still we're still like breakfasting COVID. Yeah.

479
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: So but until then, let's take a quick break. You know,

480
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: there's two times of Pro Bowl that ship bothers me.

481
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I'm sorry, no, no, no, no, no, just ship.

482
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: But you know, guys make so many Pro Bowls now

483
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: because the first seven quarterbacks pull out. I mean, yeah, Phil,

484
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: I should have said, yes, you should have. I didn't

485
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: because every time you were competing for Super Bowls. Well.

486
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: The other thing is too, the Pro Bowl was scary. Well,

487
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: they used to hit. It was scary. Here's the play call.

488
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: All right, guys, I'm gonna get rid of it quick.

489
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: Please protect me. Here's the play. I'm not exaggerating because

490
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: it was Did people get injured in the Pro Bowl back?

491
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: Oh no, but it was killed the quarterback. You think

492
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: they were gonna tay cared if the running back ran

493
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: through there. They wanted to get Sacks and that was it. So,

494
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: mister Simms, are you are you trying to? Are sorry? Phil?

495
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: Phil where you can call me mister Shims? All right,

496
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: you let me know. Okay, do you ever think you

497
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: got up roughing the passer call? You know, I don't

498
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: don't remember roughing the past or being a you know,

499
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: something you could throw a flag on. I'm sure I did,

500
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: but I don't remember it. Yeah, I just don't remember

501
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: roughing the past or being part of the game. And

502
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: sometimes every once in a while go buy a TV

503
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: and I see an old game of ours and I

504
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: look up there and I just laugh, Oh my gosh,

505
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: the wonder I'm beat up? No, but you know it's

506
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: really it was just a different era. Nobody thought anything

507
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: about it, you know. So that's why he's tough, and

508
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: that's why you feel the toughness off of Phil Sims

509
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: when you're working with him every week Tuesday on Inside

510
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: the NFL streaming on Paramount Plus. And let's welcome mister

511
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: Philip Sims from Kentucky. Yes, this is Sam Rew, my

512
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: co host talk to you. I'm Julian Kentucky man. That's

513
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: like mister Kentucky, mister Kentucky. What do you mean? It's

514
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: like what I love Kentucky? What's you talking about? Bourbon? Country?

515
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: About a bourbon? Yeah, and everybody thinks I'm a bourbon drinker.

516
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: I don't like Bourbon's too sweet. Not a big drinker.

517
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: But well, if you do drink, what is it? What's

518
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: your god to? I like to get there quick? Crystal

519
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: crystal meth? That's no. Well no, well it tastes terrible,

520
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 1: but I feel better. Yeah, no, yeah, that's that's one

521
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: thing comes with age. Yeah, you don't mind a cocktail

522
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: at night every once in a while, that's for sure.

523
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: So what's what's the cocktail thing that you do? Like? Vodka? Baka?

524
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: All right, well before we start, Yeah, well, mister Sims, Phil,

525
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what to call you now. Now I

526
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: feel the nervous I feel like we're on the same

527
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: you know. Wait, just do what you always do, mister Shim.

528
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: I'll call you miss mister Shim. Mister Shim. Yeah, Well

529
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: go ahead, so you know, before we start, we got

530
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: your little accolades here, seventh overall pick in the nineteen

531
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: seventy nine draft. Yeah, that went over well with the

532
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: giant fans, did it? Yeah, oh yeah. Were they pissed?

533
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, do they want? Well, I don't think anybody

534
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: back then, Thank god, you and everybody wasn't out there

535
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: going over every player, so the fans really didn't know

536
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: the players. I wasn't surprised. I went seventh, the seventh pick,

537
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: and it was talking you going earlier. Uh no, I

538
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: think I knew all the teams that were gonna probably

539
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: draft me, and I knew the Giant said. They basically

540
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: said two weeks for the we're taking you. And they

541
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: told my coach that too. From Morehead State. Yeah no, yeah,

542
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: I know from Morehead State. Moorhead State. Fun Fact is

543
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: named after a man pleading with his Jewish wife. Oh okay,

544
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: this is a podcast. He's a two time super Bowl champ,

545
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 1: a super Bowl MVP, and like, you see we got

546
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: something in common. But you were the first to do

547
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: the Disney commercial, right, I was, did you get to

548
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 1: do it too? I did it twice? Oh, you did

549
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: it twice. I did for you twice. Yeah, I did it.

550
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, what am I doing here? But

551
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, walking across the field, I'm going and I

552
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: just was embarrassed because it's a football game. I just

553
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. We're old school. You are too,

554
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: and I just said, what are we doing here? I mean,

555
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: it's just not right. But I'm glad I did it

556
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. You started the trend. Yeah, it

557
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: was great. Were you nervous? I mean, coming out of

558
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: Kentucky coming to New York City in the eighties, was

559
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: that at all? Like such a big market. I guess

560
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: they hadn't won it ever, they never won a super

561
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: Bowl right at that point. No, they hadn't, But no,

562
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: they won a lot of championships back in the old

563
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: days in the fifties. But no, I wasn't nervous about

564
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: coming up. You know, people always ask me those kind

565
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: of questions, which I understand. I played at Morehead State

566
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: and my favorite games when we were away and we

567
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: were at homecoming because everybody picked us for our homecoming team.

568
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: You know what, we want to win, let's play Morehead State.

569
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: But the great thing is there was a crowd there. Yeah,

570
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, so, I mean I love the fact having

571
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: a crowd, and sometimes they would chant my name, like

572
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: kill Sims. I'm like, man, I must be really doing

573
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: pretty good. But yeah, I wasn't nervous and Jill's you

574
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: know this too, the football field. It doesn't matter where

575
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: it is or whatever, it's the same. Yeah, And you know,

576
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: how did you adapt from small college to this, I

577
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, after a few practices you get

578
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: the hang of it. You have no choice how they

579
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: replace you. Yeah, well don't that. You just kind of adjust,

580
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: you go. Oh, I threw that pass and the linebacker

581
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: picked it off, which I've never seen before. So the

582
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: next time, I said, I got to be a little

583
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: more paying more attention whatever, see it differently. And I

584
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: don't know, I felt like even my rookie year, you

585
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: kind of pick up with the talent and go from there. Well,

586
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: there's always like a defining play when you're a younger

587
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: person or a rookie in the league. Like for me,

588
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: it was when I ran a punt back in the preseason.

589
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: Then I was like, all right, I could play with

590
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: these guys. Yeah, there's always one defining moment like it

591
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: could have been the next time you threw that cover

592
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: two with the linebacker not picking it. You're like, all right,

593
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: I just got to not make the same mistake twice, right,

594
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, So that there's always that one play that

595
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: always defines. All right, give you that I got. Yeah,

596
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: my would be this. I didn't play in our first

597
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: preseason game with the Giants. They wanted to hold me out,

598
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: give me another week of practice. So we go down

599
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh. Well, okay, Pittsburgh's are on their way to

600
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: win in their fourth Super Bowl that year, and they

601
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: decided me to play in Three Rivers Stadium. And I

602
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: get under the center and go, there's Joe Green, there's Elsie.

603
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: I can't. I mean, it was unbelievable. It was eight

604
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers and I'm looking at him going, you

605
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: know it was something else. They want to rip your

606
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: head off. Yeah, I mean I got great stories about

607
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: that game. But there's me and Joe Green. I mean,

608
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: let's stalk the game. I need some autographs. You know,

609
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: all these guys that I idolized, Terry Bradshaw growing up. Yeah,

610
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: and there I was playing against him, you know, so

611
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: it was really did he say anything? Like after the game,

612
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: you ever say anything to you when you were young? No,

613
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: I didn't get to talk to him after that game.

614
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Green said something to me. We talked

615
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: for a second and all that. And then eight years

616
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: later we had won the Super Bowl and we're playing there.

617
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: He's a coach with the Steelers, and he comes over

618
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: and grabs me and goes, my, boy, you've grown up.

619
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, you remember we played. It

620
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: was really cool. He was he's probably a charmer. Yeah,

621
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: he was awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, of course he

622
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: was a one of the greatest defensive linemen in history.

623
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: But it was pretty cool to play against him and

624
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: then have him say that too many years later, so

625
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: at least I must have done well. I did throw

626
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: an interception for a touchdown to them for about eighty

627
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: yards that night, but I think that's when it I

628
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: realized I could play. Yeah, because practice and all that

629
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: and down there. It wasn't like a great statistical game

630
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: or anything. Like my dad drove up from Louisville, Kentucky

631
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: with my mom and after the game he goes, I

632
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: don't know, guy, just say. He goes, boy, I think

633
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: that's the best I've ever seen you play. And I

634
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: didn't do anything, really, but I think he just was

635
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: worried about my transition from college to the pros. How's

636
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: it going to look? Yeah, And he's like, oh, it's okay.

637
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: You can he'll survive? Yeah, that's cool. Well it was cool.

638
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: You know, we came here because this is called games

639
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: with Names, Right, we're on the search for the best

640
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: games of all time. Super Bowl twenty one, which was

641
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: the kickstart to the New York Football Giants and the

642
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: New York Football Giants' success going forward. You were a

643
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: huge part of that. Some people say you had the

644
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: best game in Super Bowl history for a quarterback. But

645
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: what was nineteen eighty seven? Like, what was it was?

646
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty seven? I was one years old, so I

647
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: can't remember one. We were one. We were one. But

648
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: you were in the heat of it. You were in

649
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: the prime of your life. Well, I thought you were

650
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: talking about the eighty seven season after the Super Bowl.

651
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: What was like life like, mister Simms? Just walking down

652
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, Broadway, starting quarterback of the New York Football Giants,

653
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: you know, hanging out with LT going golfing, you know, Like,

654
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: what was it like? It's nothing like you think it

655
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: was nothing? Well, I don't know. It wasn't glamorous. I

656
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: mean I think that was when the fans kind of

657
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: went all right, we'll to hang around a few more years.

658
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: You know. It was tough. You know, I had a

659
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: lot of tough years, and you know, we had tough

660
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: outings in a couple of playoff games or years before that.

661
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: But for it to all come together and you know,

662
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: my god, you were on many Super Bowl teams. It

663
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: just it's amazing how I just kind of rolls and

664
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you go, wow, we really got

665
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: a chance big time to win all this, and I

666
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: think we realized that late in that year. But we

667
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: just whenever the plays had to be made or anything big,

668
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: we always came through. And that's you know, kind of

669
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: I know, you know that sensation, but you get confident,

670
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: you believe in everything. And and I think the biggest

671
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: thing too, I learned from Bill Parcells many things, but

672
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: when you're out there playing, don't ever think about winning

673
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: and lose and just do it, man, pay attention to

674
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: what you're doing. And when I did that, I usually

675
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: played pretty well. Well. You had you talked about going

676
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: against this scary Pittsburgh defense when you're young, but I mean,

677
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: now you have this defense behind you, like Lt. Carl Bunks,

678
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: like these are dudes you don't want to go again. Well,

679
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: we were loaded. Yeah, gosh, I havem throw an interception

680
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: which I wasn't afraid to throw them, and I would

681
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: be walking off the field and Lawrence Taylor literally would

682
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: go by, don't worry, We'll get it back for you

683
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: in better position. And I'd go, okay, like take the

684
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: steam off of it. It was great, you know, I

685
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: would feel but it was kind of true. Yeah. Man,

686
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: we'd get turnovers, they would make plays and even though

687
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: we'd mess it up, we'd get good field position, give

688
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: us another chance. But our defense, we played to it.

689
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: They were great. And of course you've said some of

690
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: those names. Man, we had a lot of good players.

691
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 1: Of course, you have to to win Super Bowls. There's

692
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: actually talks about when you were coming out from Morehead

693
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: State that Bill Walsh came down. Yeah, talk to you.

694
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: I remember you talking about something like that, and that

695
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: he was actually more interested in getting you than Montana. Well,

696
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: he got Joe Montana. He didn't get me in the

697
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: first round. He had to do with Joe Montana in

698
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: the third round. Yeah. I feel bad for him, man,

699
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: but it was one of the greatest experience. It was

700
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: a great experience him. He came down twice. Yeah, and uh,

701
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: we threw and so every I did back then, there

702
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: wasn't no what was a combine just for injuries. But

703
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: every team wanted to see your workout. So I probably

704
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: did at least twenty workouts that off season, and Bill

705
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: wash came down. Everybody wanted to see the same thing.

706
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: Let it go, just throw it, so man, you know, okay,

707
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: I'll do it. And I'd have like seven receivers out

708
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: there and throw it as hard as I could throw it.

709
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh is there. I start throwing it. I'm crushing

710
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: the ball. You know, it's coming out of my hand.

711
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I am ripping it today. He goes,

712
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And I go, well, what isn't

713
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: this what you want to see? He goes, I don't

714
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: want to know, and then he went to you know

715
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: the Bill Wash, No, I want you to be graceful,

716
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: try to be pretty. They actually said this, and I'm

717
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: looking for all I know. He goes, just I want

718
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: it to be great, just let it and relax and

719
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and so I kind of over. He

720
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: goes softer. He's really going behind me, going softer, and

721
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: I just kept Oh, that's it, and I the opposite

722
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: of a woman. Oh this guy's oh my god. But

723
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm just going who what is going on? And then

724
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: the workout's over. The second time, he goes to me,

725
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: all right, here you go. I'm gonna draft you. I

726
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: want you out there the next morning. We're going to

727
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: work and you're gonna lead the NFL and passing. You're

728
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: gonna lead him in this, You're gonna lead him in touch.

729
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: And I'm standing and he goes, you know, I guess

730
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: I gotta look on my face. He goes, well, you

731
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: don't believe me. I go, yeah, I believe he coach.

732
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: Then he starts naming off every quarterback he's ever had

733
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: won all the passing titles, which is true. And I

734
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: was pretty excited about it. I go, oh man, this

735
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: will be great to play for him, go to San

736
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: Francisco and all that. But well we know it didn't

737
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: work out. Yeah, so but it worked out for both

738
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: of you. Well worked out for Joe Montana too, That's

739
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: for sure. Joe was the perfect quarterback for him. He

740
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: was the first quarterback that I used to watch and go, god,

741
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: he is pretty Yeah, it's great feet and you know,

742
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: i'd watch film and see them playing, I'd go, oh

743
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: my gosh, he hits like ten in a row every game,

744
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna look so easy for the forty

745
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: nine ers because they were ahead of their time almost. Yeah,

746
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: it was just spreading West Coast offense. As Bill Walsh

747
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 1: would say, third and ten, if the guy five years

748
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: five yards down the field is open, throw it to him.

749
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: If he gets tackled, don't worry. We'll get a better

750
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: player next year to break the tackle running catch. Yeah.

751
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: It was really just keep throwing it, let him catch it,

752
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: and let's see what happens. So miss, what's the best

753
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: parcels story you have that you have never told? Oh? Never,

754
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: I've told him all. I don't know. You know, he

755
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: was great, not great, many things. Of course, he yelled

756
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: at me a lot. Yeah. Year he yelled back at

757
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: him all the time we were allowed to yell back. Yeah,

758
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: he would yell at me, you know, and it was

759
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: all kind of orchestrated. You know. He knew he was

760
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: going to do it, Sims, you know, and he would

761
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: really like yell and sometimes they just keep going on go.

762
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: You know. I could literally turn to him and go

763
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: shut up, Holy Christ, all you do is and he'd goes,

764
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: oh are you man at me, and you know, and

765
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: I tell people these stories, they don't believe it. But

766
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: he was unbelievable that way. He yelled at you, and

767
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: then he would allow you to yell back if you

768
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: knew the situation was right, and everybody in the team

769
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: would laugh because yeah, get them Bill, you know. And

770
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: but it was his way of sending a message to

771
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: the whole team through players, and he was great at that.

772
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: He was the greatest manipulator of people I've ever been

773
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: around in my life for a while. But yeah, he

774
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: would yell, simps, come here during the game, come here.

775
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: I'd throw an interception and I'd go, oh yeah, I go, yeah,

776
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: I just want to know, are you watching the same

777
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: game I'm watching? Man, I go, that's a good one.

778
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: I just keep walking. But the things we said to

779
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: each other during games, you know, I'm not proud of

780
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: it at all. I really am not. But I never

781
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: got in arguments with him or all this stuff. Would

782
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: not always knowing he's the man. Yeah, I knew I

783
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: was talking to the guy that's running the organization and

784
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: had a lot of power. And he scared me. Yeah,

785
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, what about a little bit, what about like

786
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: young Belichick. Well, oh my gosh, I could tell some

787
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: stories about him, but whatever. You know. I remember I

788
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: would stay late every night, and some nights i'd stay

789
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: really late because I wanted to get all the work,

790
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, I was, I want to do all the

791
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: work on Wednesday. Yeah, when I come in Thursday, I

792
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: want it to be over now. I'm just whatever. And

793
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: I would walk by the coaches room. It would be

794
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: nine o'clock at night, and there would be Bill Belichick

795
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: with Al grow riding their stationary bikes with rubber suits on,

796
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: just sweating and ruining the machines. And they got a clicker. Yeah,

797
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: and they're talking. I'd see him and I go and

798
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: I just go, guys are crazy, just but that was him. Wow.

799
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: You know he did it thirty years later when I

800
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: went in there o'clock in an off season on the

801
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: treadmill with this little sweat jacket that they cut. You know,

802
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: they started all that at the Giants. It's so funny

803
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: to hear. There was a Belichick story at this Super Bowl.

804
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: After you, guys, wont it do you remember this? He

805
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: went on the field to really take it all in,

806
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: and then he tried to get back to the locker

807
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: room and they wouldn't let him back in. Oh my gosh,

808
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that. It's crazy, he tells you. I'm

809
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: right right. That's you'll fact check that, Jack, But I'm

810
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: pretty sure I'm Ron. Well, even when he was with us,

811
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: they were calling him boy genius. Yeah, And I don't

812
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: know if they meant it in a complimentary way. You know,

813
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: he just was so studious and worked so hard. You know,

814
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: the players he gave him such great information and all

815
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: that that they oh, boy genius. And you know Bill was.

816
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: He really didn't change all his years coming with up

817
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: the New England and everything. He was still the same

818
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: guy that coached you know, our defense through all those years,

819
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: Indian Romeo Creneal there as well. Yeah, Romeo Canal al grow,

820
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: Charlie Weiss. Shoot who else? We had? Tom Coughlin, Tommy Cofflin.

821
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: You know, I look at some of our pictures team

822
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: photos and go, yeah, coach, you might have had something

823
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: to do with us when he I mean, we had

824
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: an all star coaching staff, which I think you always

825
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: kind of need. Coffinly got no respect he really deserved

826
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: up until he won too. That was a classic thing

827
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: where like he was going to get fired the year

828
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: he won the first one with the Giants. Well, yeah,

829
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: they were close. In fact, I think it came down

830
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: to the last game of the year. They beat Buffalo

831
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: in Buffalo got some breaks otherwise it could have been trouble.

832
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's always a story out here.

833
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: I'm so fascinated with LT because he's just maybe the

834
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 1: best ever on defense. Well, he was bigger than life. Yeah,

835
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, he was his rookie year. We had a scrimmage.

836
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: They had to take him out after like ten plays.

837
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: Couldn't scrimmage, had to take him out. He was sack

838
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: in quarterback every play, and I go, God, this guy's

839
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: really who everything they said he was? Yeah, but for real,

840
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: I think he had six sacks and ten plays. They said,

841
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: get him out. We can't judge anybody. Is it true

842
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: that he was sending prostitutes to the opposing team's hotel

843
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: rooms to tire them out for the next day. Well,

844
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: I've heard all those stories. I didn't know that. I

845
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: can't even listen. I know this is a podcast all this.

846
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: I still can't tell you some of the Lawrence Taylor stories,

847
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: but they they're endless and they're hilarious. I gotta leave

848
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: it at that. But he was a savant. I mean

849
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: he was. I heard stories that he would be uh

850
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: sleeping through certain team meetings and then they'd wake him

851
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: up and he'd know every place. Yes, that's true. Wow,

852
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: that's all true. He was a great athlete. There was

853
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: nothing we ever played it he wouldn't good at. We

854
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: played basketball, you know, he picks up golf, became a

855
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: one or two handicap after you know nine. He plays

856
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: about five hundred rounds of golf a year. So but yeah,

857
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: he's he was really good at everything, and there was

858
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: nothing he couldn't do. So Lawrence, you know, we had

859
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: a basketball go outside our locker room and I was

860
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: shooting one day. Oh, come here, shoot you know better?

861
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: He goes. I said, I bet you can't make ten

862
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: in a row. Oh, I'll bet you whatever you want. Now,

863
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: you know, making ten in a row it's tough. You

864
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: can hit eight and just oh you miss it? He goes,

865
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: all right, don't moore nothing. Sure more time. I said, look,

866
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: this is no fund seas. I want to be paid

867
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: when this is over. And he would just we go

868
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: in the stadium onths he goes, I can take this

869
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: club and hit it out of the stadium. I said, no,

870
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: you can't. He goes, So of course we bet, we

871
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: bet on everything. And he goes out there and swings

872
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: hits the ball. It's going around all the suites. I'm like,

873
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: and of course he didn't hit it out. Then he

874
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: says to me, I'm throwing the ball once. I can

875
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: throw it in the second tier. I said, no, you can't.

876
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: I mean that's a seventy yard throw up up and

877
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: he goes. So he throws two or three, and we're

878
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: of course wagering, and it just keeps going double or nothing.

879
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: And I said again, I went in. He took his

880
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: care a lot of cash. He takes it and throws

881
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: down the ground. Oh, I'm so embarrassed. I'll have to

882
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: pick it up. But yeah, so there was nothing Lawrence

883
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: didn't think he could. He could, he could do and

884
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: do it really well. So we took advantage of that opportunity.

885
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,479
Speaker 1: The stories could go forever. Oh, he can go forever.

886
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: It's uh. I wish I could tell. I went down

887
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 1: a golfing trip or down to South Jersey to play

888
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: with me, him and Jim Burt and we're gonna play

889
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: with some officials down there and some giant officials. And

890
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: Lawrence goes, I said, I'll drive. Lawrence goes, no, no,

891
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm driving. I'll go. Oh my god, I don't want

892
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: to let him drive. First, take a breathalyzer. Well no,

893
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: he was okay there. So I look at Jim Burt,

894
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: who was our nose tackle. I said, I'm in the back.

895
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: He goes, no, you're not. You're in the front. I'm

896
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: sitting in the back. You know. He's like, so we're

897
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: flying down the turnpike. It's really I'm sitting there at

898
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, slow down. We're doing like ninety to

899
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: one hundred. A cop, a policeman pulls up besides us

900
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: and goes on his micro slow down, you know, rubber,

901
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: and you know, I think he recognized Lawrence. And Lawrence goes, oh,

902
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: got it. You know. The cop takes off the policeman.

903
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say whatever, and he gets whatever. Lawrence floors

904
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: again it's Lawrence. Oh he won't come back, and it

905
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: just and we that was well, I don't know what

906
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: to say. The stories don't do justice. Dipping he was dipping,

907
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: and so he threw his dip out the window. He

908
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: goes like this and he throws it and we hear

909
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: ding ding ding. His ring came off and lost it

910
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: out in the road. He lost his Super Bowl now

911
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl ring. It was a ring with

912
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: lots of jewelry in it. Oh okay, you know what

913
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: I mean? Oh my god, oh god, Well let's get

914
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: let's let's get to the lead up of Super Bowl

915
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: twenty one NFC Championship the Wind Bowl. Oh what was

916
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: that like? You're playing Joe Gibbs and the Washington Redskins

917
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: at the time. Yeah, what's it like? You dream of

918
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: playing in the championship game? Right? Yeah? And I jog

919
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: out in the field and I literally couldn't hally run

920
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: into the wind. It was so strong. And I go,

921
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 1: I finally get here, and this is what I got playing,

922
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: Like we what are we talking? Like? Thirty mile hour

923
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: gusts forty two miles an out, forty two miles in

924
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: the game time, it was forty two miles an out. Wow.

925
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: And you know, if you ever look at the game,

926
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: there's stuff blowing everywhere the whole game, and it was

927
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was brutal. And the great thing, you know, coaches,

928
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: it's never an accident. We win the toss or I

929
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: can't remember, Yeah, we win the tos offended. We defended

930
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: a goal and now who would think of that? Bill Goes,

931
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: I want to get on He didn't say, he goes,

932
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: I just want to get on top. First. We scored first.

933
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: We got him, you know, and the Washington Redskins at

934
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: the time, they made a huge mistake. We kicked the

935
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: field goal on our first tribe. It was third and long.

936
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: We had a penalty and we had to kick another

937
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: long field goal. Joe Gibbs accepted it to take us

938
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: out of field goal range. He thought, well the next playoff,

939
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: threw it down the middle for a huge game, got

940
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: a first down and we drove down and scored and

941
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: literally that was the game was over in the first quarter.

942
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: Those those games people don't realize are like game changing.

943
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: In twenty thirteen, we played remember the Cleveland game where

944
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: we came back and build we uh in overtime. We

945
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: are we elected, or it was Denver we elected to

946
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: defend a certain goal because it had the wind in

947
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: the back of it so you could get the field goal.

948
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: And everyone you know, was shaking their head what's Belichick doing?

949
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: This guy's we ended up winning the game like that.

950
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: No one could throw into that side of the wind. No,

951
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: And it's yeah, it's it's it comes and it roots from,

952
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: you know, the Giants experience, I bet, because Bill doesn't

953
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: forget anything anything and parcels. We were extremely uh what's

954
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: the word for it? Careful. If it was fourth and

955
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: two inches, we punted, you know today, I mean it

956
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: literally could be this much. Punt it. Let the defense

957
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: get it. We'll get it back here, you know. And

958
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: when he had that defense too, well that had a

959
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: lot to do it. It was just a time of

960
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: everything too. But we ran fake field goals, flea flickers,

961
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: we did everything. A flea flicker in the Super Bowl,

962
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: well we did a flea flicker went forward on fourth,

963
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: you know. And that play was extremely complicated, to believe

964
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: it or not. When Jeff Rutlers runs a sneak, we

965
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: had seven plays. He had to check into the right

966
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: play and it could be it was like called it, Oh,

967
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: what's it? A rappa hole? I run a pass a

968
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: hit on the enemy. Yeah, that's what it was. And

969
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: he had to pick which play and it was a

970
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: quarterback sneak because they didn't put a guy over the guard. Wow,

971
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: but we gambled a lot, and I swear they I

972
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: can't remember where when he made a gamble that we

973
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: didn't make it. So he had a bill, had a

974
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: great feel parcels, had a great feel for when to

975
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: do those and a plan when to do those situational plays.

976
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: Probably like they went into you know, the game with

977
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: that potential situation to happen. They three or four plays

978
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: waiting for it. Yeah, and you gotta have a plan

979
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: when you go on those. I can hear him, we're

980
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: gonna be aggressive, and I kind of knew that meant

981
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna really throw it and we're really gonna take chances,

982
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: which we normally didn't do. Yeah, Yeah, that was great.

983
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: I mean he did it in the Super Bowl, the

984
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: fleet flicker, the fourth down. You know, he was awesome

985
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: at making those decisions, especially during big moments when people

986
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: were getting tight. So now, you guys clearly played Denver

987
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: Broncos lway in the Broncos. What about what did you

988
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: when you guys, did you guys play before them in

989
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: the play them during the regular season? No, in the

990
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: championship weekend? Did you guys play. We were second. You

991
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 1: were second, so you knew the drive happened. You knew

992
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: that they beat the Browns, and you knew going into

993
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: the wind Bowl that you were going to play the potential. Yeah,

994
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: we were in the locker room going out to play

995
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: the game. That game was still going on at the

996
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: very end. He was starting to drive, and I remember

997
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: looking up there and going, you know, I knew Denver.

998
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: We played them during the season. I'd played Cleveland the

999
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: two years before that twice, and I go, Goda, hope

1000
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: Denver wins because Cleveland's defense was a big paint in

1001
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: the you know what. So I didn't know until we

1002
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: got out in the field and we're I think we

1003
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: were just kind of warming up. They'd get ready to

1004
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: kick off the coin toss all that, and I heard

1005
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: Denver one and I remember just going, good, we match

1006
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: up better against Denver. That's all I remember thinking about that. Okay, Okay,

1007
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: So then Super Bowl week comes. You guys have a

1008
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: bye week. Mm hm, you had you had the extra week.

1009
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: We had the week in between. Yeah, so we got

1010
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: three days off, which was really uncommon, uncommon, and then

1011
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: we came down and practice on Thursday, and it was

1012
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: a little shaky, and it was it was more than shaky.

1013
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: It was just I just remember getting destroyed. Yeah, Parcels

1014
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: was Sims. I'll ever give you any days all there,

1015
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: you know it was, and it was bad. It was

1016
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: too many days off. You think, you know, we'll practice

1017
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: against our defense. It sounds like we're gonna go out

1018
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: there and tear it up every day. Yeah, but I

1019
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: just remember how he was. I couldn't here. I'm gonna

1020
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: getting ready to go to the Super Bowl a couple

1021
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: of days later, And all I could do is I

1022
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: was nervous as heck because I know the practice was

1023
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: as bad and he was brutal. Nothing changes, he lived

1024
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: it all. Practice was the most important thing of our life.

1025
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: And this is the most important day. And if it's

1026
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 1: not perfect, and it was, you walk into the building

1027
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: at eight o'clock in the morning, or I'd get there

1028
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: about seven thirty for my first eight o'clock meeting, and

1029
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: I would get nervous worrying about practice. Damn, Yes, Parcels Sims,

1030
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: I mean, best as you complete yesterday in practice. Did

1031
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: he ever give you like positive encouragement to like, you know,

1032
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 1: sometimes yeah, privately you know, Shims, I'm imitating him. He goes,

1033
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of you, son, You're doing well, you're

1034
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: leading the team. You're just I'm just proud of you.

1035
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: Just want you to know today on the practice field,

1036
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: I want to tear into you right around. I go,

1037
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: can't we wait till we get He goes, Oh, come on,

1038
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: I gotta get I gotta teach these other well I

1039
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: can say it. He goes, these other assholes got to

1040
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: see something. I gotta get through to them. So I'm

1041
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: gomost to yell at you and true to form no

1042
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 1: matter how practice is going. If I'm do any completion,

1043
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: he'd throw his papers up in the air and go

1044
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: through these anneks and just start ripping me. And I

1045
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: have to stand there like this and take it. And

1046
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: all the team's laughing, yeah, getting Bill's that's such a

1047
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: great abusive relationship that in private he's like, I love

1048
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: your son, and then the second yar out there, he's like,

1049
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,959
Speaker 1: your garbage. Oh well, He's yelling at the offensive line

1050
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: one day, just crushing them, and I'm standing behind him,

1051
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: going get them because I was getting hit way too

1052
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: much in the games. And he goes, and then of

1053
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: course he gets done yelling and he turns around and

1054
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: goes and it's your fault, and I go, of course,

1055
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: it's my fault. I'm f and Sims. I was never

1056
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, he called me f and Sims. I'm just

1057
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: fucking Sims. Absolutely fucking Sims. You're killing me. But he

1058
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: would blame me, and I go, well, what did I do?

1059
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: He goes, well, now you're there, buddy, take them out

1060
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: to dinner, Sims. Buy him some more presents. How's that

1061
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: working out for you back there? Huh so working out?

1062
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: Used to be their leader. They were afraid of you,

1063
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: And I just say, okay, okay, that is that the

1064
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: line you have to walk. I thought you're supposed to

1065
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: take the line at the dinner. Well yeah, but he

1066
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: he was mad at them. He thought I would was

1067
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: salt on them because you know, they were my friends. Yeah.

1068
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: But I got in the car that night, which I

1069
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: did many times. I'm driving home and I go, God, damn,

1070
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: he's right, he's right. You know, there's there. It's like

1071
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: a coaching players. There's a line. Yeah, and you know,

1072
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback has a chance to influence people, and especially

1073
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: now I was here, we are sitting here and you

1074
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: know that's aw Tom Brady yelling his lineman. I mean,

1075
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: I got admit I did that a lot, but I

1076
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: only yelled at one of them. I would yell at

1077
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: the center and I would just crush him. Yeah, well

1078
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: it's not my guy, I said. You don't get the point.

1079
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: I don't care chand chaining command senator is a leader

1080
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: of the line. Yeah. And you know, bart Oates was

1081
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: a great center for h me. He goes after I'd

1082
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: yell at him, and I don't know why. Sometimes it

1083
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: didn't punch me out, you know, because they're all twice

1084
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: the size of me, and Bartils would always go okay, okay,

1085
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: I'll get straight, I'll get straight. You know. It was great.

1086
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: That's that's respect though, because they understood that you were

1087
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: the first one in, the last one out. You know,

1088
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: you worked your ass off. You got fucking yelled at

1089
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: by everyone, and I see that, you know, and how

1090
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,959
Speaker 1: you dealt with it is a huge that's a huge

1091
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: part of your leadership and that's why you were probably

1092
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: one of the toughest competitors ever playing this game. Well,

1093
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: that's nice of you say, I don't know about that.

1094
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: I love playing, I love talking about it. I love practice.

1095
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: I mean I love practice. Yeah, you know, yeah, of

1096
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: course you love it. You don't have to do any well,

1097
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: you're not going to listen to these coaches. And you

1098
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: didn't look forward to it, but you still loved it. No,

1099
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: I no, I didn't care. I mean I love practice. Yeah,

1100
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: I did it. Just it was so much fun and

1101
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: not fun but just learning and doing it and everything

1102
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: is a football player. Yeah, I mean it was nothing

1103
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: like going out and having a good practice. Oh great,

1104
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna get better tomorrow. I mean it was great.

1105
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: And you were at a team where you like, I mean,

1106
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: you're fourteen and two this year, I believe. Yeah, we're

1107
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: fourteen to Froncos are eleven and five. You are favored

1108
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: to win. They were eleven and five. Yeah, Oh they

1109
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: must have because we played them during the season that year.

1110
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: We were both I think ten and two, really, I

1111
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: think or something like that. We were both the same

1112
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: we had the same records. Interesting, yeah, and we both

1113
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: went in a bunch of close games. You might be wrong,

1114
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: I don't anyway. You you're in Pasadena. I heard the

1115
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: weather in the first half was an issue for you guys,

1116
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: Well not for me. I mean, it was warm, but

1117
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: when you play, you know, playoff games, and forty mine

1118
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: I wins, and the other one was freezing, and we

1119
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: played in We played in so many bad weather games.

1120
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: Then when we went to California. I think I was

1121
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: more excited the fact that we were just playing in

1122
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: California son, just warm weather, not gripping that football, which

1123
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: we couldn't rub up up like they do now the

1124
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: footballs were an issue, but it was so warm it

1125
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: made it better for me. The weather's better in California,

1126
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: but the people are better here. Was that it in

1127
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: New York City. That's what I say. Okay, weather's good,

1128
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: whether there's weather's but throwing the football, that was the

1129
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: whole difference to me. It just it was amazing. I

1130
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: was in a great mood because I was like, Wow,

1131
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: this weather. Who couldn't play out here? This right here.

1132
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: Phil Simms thinks Joe Montana only had the stats he

1133
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: had because he played in californ for it. Whether if

1134
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: he played in New York he would not have been

1135
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: able to do it. Oh well, I'm not even of course,

1136
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's always the New York identity

1137
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: of the teams that win. They always have a great defense.

1138
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: I feel like, well you almost have to because the wind.

1139
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: The wind, I mean, you know, unless you're Josh Allen

1140
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: playing in today's game. Oh it's thirty by one hour wins. Okay,

1141
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: I'll just put a little more heat on it. Just

1142
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: a lot of good football right now. Yeah, there really is.

1143
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: He's incredible. Let's get into the game. So it was

1144
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: kind of a slow first half. But to come out

1145
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: on your first possession in the biggest game of your life,

1146
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: get seven, what's that do with the confidence? Well, it

1147
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: was great. I think I'd lifted the whole team. You know,

1148
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: we were down, of course, as we know, ten to

1149
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: nine half and people go, what went on in your

1150
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: locker room a halftime? I don't know. We were relaxed,

1151
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: and you know, Bill Parcels never yelled really except I

1152
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: can only remember one game where he came in half

1153
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: and he was didn't yell at us. He was like,

1154
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: come on, when we gonna end this credit you know whatever.

1155
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: But it wasn't a big speech, basically, it was this

1156
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: he came all right, man, but he did say we

1157
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: can't play any worse. And we got thirty minutes and

1158
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: that was it. Yeah, that was always his pre game speeches.

1159
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: All right, we worked hard all week. You guys are thirty.

1160
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: We got sixty minutes to scho get it done. It

1161
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: wasn't this raw raw. I mean, what are you gonna do?

1162
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: Ra ra? What? I don't want to hear that either. Yeah,

1163
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: that's the movie shit that Yeah, that's what do they say,

1164
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: Jill's when you get that emotional speech you run out there.

1165
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: It's all over after the first play and then you

1166
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: got to play. Yeah, the emotion and all you do.

1167
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: Think of aut Puccino in any given Sunday. Oh yeah,

1168
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: it's a pretty cool speech. Well, they were trying to

1169
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: copy the big R guy a little bit, but I

1170
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: just go he never gave a speech like that. His

1171
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: speeches you probably got the same thing Wednesday morning. Is

1172
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: when you have the address to the crew, and it

1173
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: was long. It would be he can make it twenty

1174
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: minutes to thirty minutes, and it was here's what we're

1175
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: gonna do this week. We're gonna throw it against that

1176
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: guy Simms. We're throwing it to him every chance we

1177
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: get over here at this corner and we're gonna do this,

1178
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: and that he'd give the state of the Union address

1179
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: and that was our weekly what we did for the

1180
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: rest of the week. Key's keys and they were big.

1181
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: The head coach gives his keys and you break up

1182
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: in the offensive defense. The coordinators will give their keys

1183
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: based off of what they think. But every Wednesday, when

1184
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: they're installing, you know, the head coach gets up and

1185
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: f great. It was, it was awesome. I used to

1186
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: write them down and we could give a good speech.

1187
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: When we were playing the forty nine Ers back in

1188
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: eighty six on a Monday night game, he comes in

1189
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: and gives that speech and he goes, hey, now, fellas, fellas,

1190
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: he loves talking to you defensive backs. That Jerry Rice

1191
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: is a different dude. He's different. He's gonna run really

1192
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 1: fast at first play. I'm just telling you the last

1193
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: play of the game is still running that fast, so

1194
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: you better be you know. Yeah, hear that and go wow, Okay,

1195
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice is really special. And then when you cross

1196
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: pollin eate with the offense and defense in the same room.

1197
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: Hearing guys get coached, it holds an accountability for each

1198
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: side of the ball. When you hear, you know, the

1199
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: offensive guy getting yelled at the defensive guy walks by

1200
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: him in the cafeteria and say, hey, I hear you

1201
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: didn't get that a gap, you know what I mean? Like,

1202
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: so it's that's that's a coaching ability, that's a coaching

1203
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: behavior that you know, I got a lot of because

1204
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: you know, Belichick was under Parcels and they probably you know,

1205
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 1: he probably stole and I stole. That was influenced, absolutely sure,

1206
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: he had to be. I mean, I saw Bill Belichick

1207
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: changed through the years. He was there in seventy nine

1208
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: and he took a head job in nineteen ninety one, right, yeah,

1209
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, I think that's was that, right, Cleveland. Yeah,

1210
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: So he was there twelve years under Bill Parcells. So

1211
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: of course you're going to learn a lot and imitate

1212
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: a lot of that. So and and that was you know, Parcels,

1213
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: that was his thing. He could connect with the player.

1214
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: Oh you know, he knew how to get the best

1215
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: out of his player. Like he probably did this that

1216
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: that to Phil and treated Phil the way he treated him,

1217
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: because that's what fires up Phil. Phil likes to be

1218
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: pissed off. He plays well pissed off. I don't know,

1219
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's and that's what

1220
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: you know Parcells tried to do. I saw a lot

1221
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: of that stuff too, you know from from Belichick with

1222
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: certain people. You know, it's just they do whatever it

1223
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: takes to push the button to get the best out

1224
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: of you. Pushing buttons. He was great. Yeah, so you

1225
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: trade some, you trade well, he would bill. Here's what

1226
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: Parcels would do. I watched him during the week. You know,

1227
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: he would walk around the locker room and get a

1228
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: guy and go all right, now, listen, here's what I

1229
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: need from you this week. You know you gotta you know,

1230
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: you gotta come on it. And he would work the

1231
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: room like you know, he had a restaurant. He would

1232
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 1: get everybody individually, just for thirty seconds and maybe say something,

1233
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, now you got to play better. I don't

1234
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: want to take your ass out, you know, or what.

1235
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: But he was very If you want honesty, he was honest.

1236
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: Well he's looking at every piece of the machine to

1237
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: make sure. I mean, it's the big blue recond crew,

1238
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: every every piece of the guy. But he worked everybody.

1239
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: It was. It was an unbelievable thing. It's a it's

1240
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: a It's the best skill I think a coach can have,

1241
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: absolutely to be able to do this to players to

1242
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: be tough on them, and still, what's the word not

1243
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: alienate them? And all that. They just knew this is

1244
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: what it is, and he's doing. You want honesty, I'll play.

1245
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,959
Speaker 1: I just want you to be honest. Do you really

1246
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: do you really want them? Yeah? Bill was honest. I

1247
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: saw him do this. I hate to tell these stories.

1248
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: We're in training camp and we're doing an inside run

1249
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: thing and we have a guard. I'm not gonna say

1250
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: his game. He goes, I'll call him Billy. Billy, I

1251
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: got the plane ticket in my drawer. Don't make me

1252
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: give it to you. Come on, I gotta see it.

1253
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: Come on, I got the damn plane ticket in the drawer.

1254
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: And I just go, Wow, that was really like, that

1255
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: was rough. Yeah, he just and he would give the

1256
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: guy two or three days and almost always one morning

1257
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: we show wear so and so. Oh they let him go,

1258
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: but he would warn them if you don't up. Oh no,

1259
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: he never bluffed, but I heard him do that quite

1260
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: a few times. Yeah, but he was warning the guy,

1261
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: you know that if you don't practice better, then it's

1262
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: just not going to work. Here the plane ticket in

1263
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: the drawer, Yeah, I got them. I mean I can,

1264
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: Like my ex girlfriend did the same thing to me.

1265
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's on the phone now, so it's

1266
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's different. She booked the flight and we taught.

1267
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: We taught Phil the day at inside the NFL thirst

1268
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: trapping and dming really yeah? Yeah, so we're getting his terminology.

1269
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: I new DM direct messaging. What is thirst trapping? You know, like,

1270
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, what the hell is that? It's

1271
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: it's for thirsty people that try to trap people. It's

1272
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: like you put a sexy photo up there hoping that'll

1273
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: it'll get attended. Oh is that what? Okay? Now that

1274
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: makes better sense? I mean I don't know. Yeah, people

1275
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: get trapped with that. I still don't so much trapping

1276
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: going on right now. And then there's like the horny

1277
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: comment people who like are a little too engaging, you know,

1278
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: with they'll write comments like what's looking great? Yeah, and

1279
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: you're like, that's what's the other thing you were doing today?

1280
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: You look? What what is it? Oh? Drip drip check? Yeah,

1281
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: drip I mean and we gave him drip check. Yeah.

1282
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean, people say you got to start learning. I

1283
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: don't need to learn crap. I don't want to be hip.

1284
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: I don't. It's over. I want to act my age.

1285
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to act my age. I'm not trying to

1286
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: be cool. I don't want to be hip and whatever.

1287
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: You know what. The crazy thing about that is that's hip.

1288
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: That's hip, not caring? Is that The fact that you

1289
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: don't want to be hip is hip? As I say,

1290
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: there's nothing worse than looking at old guy trying to

1291
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: act young. Yeah, and I want to say till it

1292
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: ain't working. Stop it is this about my sneakers? Uh,

1293
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: well you're not old. No. Was the Knicks? You got

1294
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: the Nick colors the season starting, I got to get

1295
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: the good vibe. Yeah, okay, that don't really help. Hell,

1296
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: you're a New York legend. You gotta be behind us. Hey,

1297
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: I like all the New York teams. I root for him. Man.

1298
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: When we were playing during the height of our cur

1299
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: you know, giant thing, the Knicks were. Hell, we could

1300
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: have taken four of those guys and started them on

1301
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: our football O man, Anthony Mason. Would you could have

1302
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: played alongside LT all of Oakley, all them Oakley, John Starks.

1303
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, they wanted to fight, they didn't

1304
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 1: want to play hoops. I loved it. But it was great.

1305
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: I even made a comment once somebody said something. I said, man,

1306
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: if we ever get as tough as a Knicks nobody,

1307
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 1: he'll beat us. Yeah. And pat Riley, at the time,

1308
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: I think was coaching legend. Oh my god, should I

1309
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: tell you pat Riley started please so my first year

1310
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: in TV, NBC wants me to be a saline reporter

1311
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: in basketball, just to get just to do something. And

1312
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: then I was like, oh my god. So I'm doing it.

1313
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: And I got a Nick game first, so I'm like,

1314
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: Hannah Storm is showing me how it works. I said, Okay,

1315
01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: I think I got it. I gotta do a couple

1316
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: of reports and all that stuff. And pat Riley goes, hey,

1317
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: you know morehead boy. Hey you know Kentucky. You know

1318
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 1: because he played a Kentucky. And when he goes, okay,

1319
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: everything good, I said, yeah. He goes, listen this and that.

1320
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: He goes, I just want to tell you one thing.

1321
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: Don't you think about sticking your head in my huddle?

1322
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 1: And I mean he said it with vinegar, and I

1323
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 1: just went, don't worry. I won't. I mean, damn, yeah,

1324
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: he goes, don't you know that's pat Riley. He's talking

1325
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: in a private group. He didn't want anybody talking about

1326
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: what he says or hearing it. And he's a big

1327
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: dude too. You ever met him. I never met, Oh

1328
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: pat Rice, Well he played, he was yeah me, he's

1329
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 1: six four, six ' five, I mean, big old guy.

1330
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: Holy Christ, he's slicked hair. Oh yeah. He had to

1331
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: look our money suits, our money looking looking scared of me.

1332
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: I didn't get close to their huddle. I stayed as

1333
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: far away from them as I mean. NBA games, Oh Joe,

1334
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: it's just nothing. I'd be on the court before the game,

1335
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: shooting threes with Charles Barkley. Wow, can you imagine throwing

1336
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 1: somebody coming out in the field. But now, no, no,

1337
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. It was incredible. And then I would

1338
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: do reports. They put me on the foul line during

1339
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: the time out. The timeouts over all the players are

1340
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: standing around me like this, looking at me, and I'm going,

1341
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: should I get out the colder? They goes, no, just

1342
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: to your report, and then they didn't care. They just

1343
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: hold the game until you're done, and then we'll start

1344
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: the game again. You know basketball is a different breed. Well,

1345
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: you know they play any two of those games. I

1346
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: don't think they get too serious about it a lot

1347
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: of times. But yeah, the fact that I was shooting

1348
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: on the court before the game, nobody said a word

1349
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 1: to me with Charles Barkley. I din't gonna tell you

1350
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: what we were gambling with, but it wasn't. We weren't

1351
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: playing for pennies. But that way, what about? Uh so

1352
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: this game? The turning point in this game, there's a

1353
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: goal line stop. Yeah, a couple yea three straight stops.

1354
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: I think Banks made the last tackle, LT made the first.

1355
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: It was a huge stop. You guys, get the ball back,

1356
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: as LT always, I'll get you the ball back. Yeah,

1357
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: And that's when you started just whipping it. Five straight

1358
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: consecutive touchdown drives. We were you twenty three for like,

1359
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: I think you had three incompletions three twenty two or

1360
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: twenty five. That's insane. But we were Super Bowl. Well yeah,

1361
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, listen, when you're playing, I don't know if

1362
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: you were you in the zone, I didn't think about anything,

1363
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: just thinking of the play and always go. You know,

1364
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: many times, if you can do that, you're generally gonna

1365
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: not be unhappy with yourself when it's over. But I

1366
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: didn't do that near enough. You know, it was just always, oh,

1367
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: I threw an interception, Now I'm gonna be careful. And

1368
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: then the days I played well, I throw an interception.

1369
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: You know, if it happened, and everybody, oh, don't worry

1370
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: about I said, I'm not worried about it. You get

1371
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: ready to tackle. I'm gonna throw it. We might throw

1372
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: six today. And when I had that attitude, I played really,

1373
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: really well. But you know, that's circumstances. I didn't always

1374
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,560
Speaker 1: have that attitude. But in that Super Bowl, in the

1375
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: second half, I think we John Ellwie went three and

1376
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: out three or four straight times. So the time we

1377
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: scored and I'd go sit on the sideline, we had

1378
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:02,879
Speaker 1: to ballack. Was it crazy to see a guy that talented,

1379
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: who could scramble to throw the ball just kind of

1380
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: getting dominated in that second half? Yeah, I mean, I

1381
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 1: guess you know, when you're a player, you never look

1382
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: at the other guy and say he's great, but you

1383
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: knew he was great. I don't know, you know, somebody said,

1384
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: somebody said to me, Edwin Pope of the Miami Herald,

1385
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: that's I actually just sat down and a reporter sat

1386
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: around me. Can you imagine that in the super Bowl

1387
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: now and Evan Public goes, what would you have done

1388
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: if John Elway to come to Moorhead State? You know,

1389
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: I was much older than John. I said, well, he'd

1390
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: have sat behind me until I graduated. And I thought,

1391
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: hell yeah, that would be headlines and papers. And it

1392
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 1: was just another line in an article he wrote later.

1393
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: You know. So I was feeling good. But then I retired,

1394
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: not retired, whatever, My career was over. I was doing

1395
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: a game in Denver early the first year I did broadcasting,

1396
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: and I was standing behind there huddle watching the practice.

1397
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: I go, it's freaking always pretty good. I was like,

1398
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,759
Speaker 1: Holy Christ, but it was cool. John's was a great dude,

1399
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: and we of course knew each other really well as

1400
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 1: the years went through and everything. But it was good competitive. Nah, fuck, dad,

1401
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: he ain't better than me? Well come on, you know

1402
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: how exactly I mean? Me and Joe Montana literally I

1403
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: don't mean to I don't want to dramatize it or whatever,

1404
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: but we didn't like each other. No, And it was

1405
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: my fault because I'm a jerk. You know. I can,

1406
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: of course on the field, I could really be a jerk,

1407
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: and I said some things, but it got to like,

1408
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: this is crazy, Like we'd score. I look at him

1409
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: and go, what do you think of that? You know,

1410
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: I'd make gestures and then he got into it. He

1411
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: throw something and score against us, and he'd be looking

1412
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: at me, and I just go, I deserve it. And

1413
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: then one day I don't know how it happened or

1414
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: what a camera was in the tunnel a giant stadium,

1415
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: or maybe it was after a game in San Francisco

1416
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: and his wife. I saw Jennifer, Jennifer Jennifer and I

1417
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: said something. She goes, oh, let me go get Joe,

1418
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: and and I was like, oh good, maybe we can

1419
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: get over this now or whatever. You know, it just

1420
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: hit me in my head. You know how I always

1421
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: tell you my dogs were Dwight and Montana. Yeah, if

1422
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 1: Walsh would have got you, my dogs could have been

1423
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: Dwight and Sims. Well, mister Simms, yeah, well that could

1424
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: have been true, but it also means that it could

1425
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: have been that nobody had known Bill Walsh and I.

1426
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: But when it was over, nah, I don't know. Yeah,

1427
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: it was pretty listen are you? Are you? And Montana good? Though? Now?

1428
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're great. I mean I've done appearances, with them,

1429
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 1: and I kind of do the talking and ask him

1430
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: questions and Joe tells, of course he's got unbelievable stories

1431
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 1: and all that. But yeah, we're really I'll say this.

1432
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: He has a son, Nick, Nick came up in the

1433
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: summers one year to throw with me. Now, how's that?

1434
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool? No, but I'm just saying. His father

1435
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: was Joe Montana and he was coming up to throw

1436
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 1: with me. So and Chris Collinsworth goes, wait, let me

1437
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: hold on. This is strange you're gonna throw. Because Joe

1438
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: was on a show on Inside the NFL with us

1439
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 1: and he was talking about his son, and I said, I,

1440
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: what do you want me to do when you Why

1441
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: haven't you sent him to me yet? Because he send

1442
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: you know, he went all these quarterback gurus because Joe

1443
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: didn't want to do it. And Joe goes, okay, I'm

1444
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: gonna send him up. He's I think he stayed in

1445
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: my house. Now, how was it? How was Joe on

1446
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: inside the NFL? He was just a guest. He was

1447
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: always good. He would tell tell great stories. You know.

1448
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: I'd ask him I heard this, is that true? And

1449
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: he would yes, that's true. You know some of the

1450
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: What were the questions we asked him, Steve Young, Joe, Montana,

1451
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: the Bill washed uff and he would tell me somebodys go, wow,

1452
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: that's those are rough situations. He didn't like him, No,

1453
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 1: I didn't. I can't really remember what he said. But

1454
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 1: you know when they won the Super Bowl what the

1455
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 1: eighty eight season, they were shuffling, going back and forth

1456
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 1: and they finally made a decision, right, yeah, and stayed

1457
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: with Joe and he was on fire. He threw the

1458
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: ball awesome at the end of that year. Was that

1459
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 1: the year was he in Chicago in eighty eight? Yeah,

1460
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: they played the Bears in Chicago. Yeah, it was the

1461
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 1: best game I ever saw him throw the football. And

1462
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,560
Speaker 1: that's saying a lot. But the weather cold, it was

1463
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: really windy, and he was throwing and I said, wow,

1464
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: Joe was He was on fire? Of course. Then I

1465
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 1: think that was the year he went down to New

1466
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: Orleans and played Denver. Oh yeah, yeah, and just smoked him,

1467
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: smoked him. That would have been eighty nine probably, I

1468
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: can't remember what eighty nine because then in ninety he

1469
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: got hurt. You guys, well, he won in eighty eight

1470
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: and eighty nine, and then ninety. You guys hurt him?

1471
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: When did Yeah, when did you go to Kansas City

1472
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: ninety ninety three or ninety two? I'll tell you ninety three,

1473
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: three ninety three. I'm positive because he was there and

1474
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: I was with the Reeves that year and my career

1475
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: ended after that year, and Joe played another year in

1476
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 1: Kansas City. But yeah, I'm right, I remember that part

1477
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 1: about it. He played. Of course he played great in

1478
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: Kansas City too. Yeah, you guys got hit so damn hard.

1479
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: You guys couldn't last well, that was I was hurt

1480
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: in the game he got hit in ninety so I

1481
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: was in the locker room kind of watching it on

1482
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,879
Speaker 1: TV and going on the sidelines because I was on crutches,

1483
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: and I think, yeah, Pat summerw when Joe got hit

1484
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: as he rolled to the right and looking Leonard Marshall

1485
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: had a fifteen yard running start at him. And the

1486
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 1: next series started and Pat Sumraw goes the injury report

1487
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: from the bench is Joe Montana has overall ache. That

1488
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 1: was it? Overall ache? Oh god, it was maybe the

1489
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 1: worst hit I ever saw a quarterback take. I mean,

1490
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: you remember it, right, I remember it. It looked like

1491
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 1: he broke them. Yeah, it looked like he broke his back. Yeah,

1492
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: he hit him so hard, he did. He broke his back,

1493
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 1: he did, That's what it was. He broke his back. Wow.

1494
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: Well back to Super Bowl twenty one, this was a

1495
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: game for so many First, you were the first to

1496
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 1: say I'm going to Disneyland, and then what's something said

1497
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 1: the disney World too? You covered your baby? Did both? Yeah,

1498
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: they maybe did both, Yeah, Disneyland, disney World, and then

1499
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: you it was the first Gatorade shower. But I read

1500
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: that you guys were doing this. We did it all

1501
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: year or not all year. I don't know really how

1502
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 1: it started. I need to ask the culprits, but I

1503
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:36,520
Speaker 1: think they did it over parcels. It wasn't because we're celebrating,

1504
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: because he was in one of those moods that week,

1505
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: like really bad. Yeah, and it was intolerable, and so

1506
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 1: one of the players who you know, he was on fire.

1507
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 1: You got to cool him off, and A just basically said,

1508
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 1: that's for what you know, Yeah, I don't want to

1509
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: overdo it, or but that's because you were a jerk

1510
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: all week and I'm cleaning it all I bet. But see,

1511
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: how about that you could say that to him and

1512
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 1: allow it to happen, and you know he you know,

1513
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: Bill just shrug it off and that's it. And then

1514
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 1: it became, you know, part of every game we won.

1515
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,959
Speaker 1: It became when's Bill going to get doast with gatorade?

1516
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 1: And wasn't bon Jovi on the sideline a bunch? He

1517
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: was at practices a lot. Yeah, I heard he was

1518
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: like the good luck charm? Is that what they said? Yeah,

1519
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: it could be. Of course I would be practicing. See

1520
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 1: there's John bon Jovi over there, and he was friends

1521
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 1: with Belichick. Yeah, and he but they would always let

1522
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 1: him out. He watched a lot of practices. I'm sure

1523
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: you saw him. Yeah, probably more than I did. We

1524
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: saw him a lot too in New England. Yeah. I

1525
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: remember James Taylor singing the national anthem at the Super

1526
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 1: Bowl coming off the field, and you know, he's a

1527
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 1: big giant fan and he sees Bill. He hits my parcels. Yeah,

1528
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: get away from me. Wow. No he didn't say okay, okay.

1529
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 1: So no, I didn't like people touching me from I

1530
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 1: didn't like talking to celebrity. I talked to one celebrity

1531
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: before a game, John McEnroe, right, it was before the

1532
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans game with Tom's last game we lost that

1533
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 1: I'll never talk to another one like I hated talk.

1534
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to be like you said in the zone,

1535
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: you got to be focused on what you have to

1536
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: focus on. Yeah, I did. I did a benefit for

1537
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 1: McEnroe once and uh. In the front row, it's like

1538
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: this awful crowd. They're just talking. My entire set, every

1539
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 1: comics bombing and I just see this one lady one.

1540
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, lady, shut up. And McEnroe was like, yes,

1541
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 1: Macro's applauding me. Just fishing people. It's funny. Yeah. On

1542
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: the my agent was good friends with Billy Crystal and

1543
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: Rob Reiner and of course they lived in La Well

1544
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: not of course, but they did. And he says, do

1545
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: you want to have dinner with him on Friday night?

1546
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: I said, you know, Friday night, I would because I

1547
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: liked Friday night. It's over and it'll be a good

1548
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: time to relax a little. I'll love to do it. Well,

1549
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 1: we go to dinner, Maconkie me. Uh, Rob Reiner didn't

1550
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: make it. Billy Crystal's there, so who have a great

1551
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: dinner and it's nice. We're laughing about a lot of stuff.

1552
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: And finally Billy Crystal, who's a great New York sports fan,

1553
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: he turns to me real seriously, so what do you think?

1554
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: And I go, well, what do you mean when I think, well,

1555
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna win, you know whatever. He goes

1556
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: and I said, well, let me tell you what we're

1557
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: gonna do. I said, on the first play, we're gonna

1558
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 1: want to play action. I'm gonna throw the line of

1559
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 1: manual over the middle. The second play, we're doing this.

1560
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 1: The third play, we're doing that, and we get near

1561
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: the goal line. Here's what we're doing. He's going, really,

1562
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: I said, it's all true, because what are you gonna do?

1563
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: You can't And I'm not worried about what he's gonna

1564
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 1: tell anybody. So he's in the stands, we get the

1565
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 1: ball and he goes, he's gonna throw a play action

1566
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 1: pass to line ol man. Oh shut up, Billy, you

1567
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: don't know nothing. And it happens. They go what's he

1568
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: doing next? And he told the story I think on

1569
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: Johnny Carson that everybody kept going, what do you think, Billy?

1570
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 1: The whole game He's, well, you know, but I told

1571
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: him as much as I could and just that he

1572
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 1: could retain. But I told him that first series and

1573
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: those plays really came off one, two all the way,

1574
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 1: just like we hope they would. Wow. Yeah, I know

1575
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: he was. He was great New York sports fan. But

1576
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 1: he's a clip fan. Is he a Clippers fan? He's

1577
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: I think a Yankees Giants but he's a Clippers fan. Yeah,

1578
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: I know he's a huge Yankee fan. He was, you know,

1579
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: he was a really good baseball player, was he? Yes,

1580
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: really good shortstop. He went I think he went to

1581
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 1: West Virginia and played baseball, and then he decided maybe

1582
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: acting might be a or whatever, being a comic. He

1583
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: did sixty one. I mean that was a good movie.

1584
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah about Maison Mantle. Yeah. Well, the best Broadway player

1585
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: I ever saw was his seven hundred Sundays? Is that

1586
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 1: what it was? Does y might know? Whatever the name was.

1587
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 1: It was just him reliving his life with his father,

1588
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: growing up, the music world and all this. Oh my gosh,

1589
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: I got to check it out. It was so funny. No,

1590
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 1: this has been years ago, but he did it in

1591
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: LA he did it on TV. I think he's doing

1592
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 1: another one now is something different. But I laughed so

1593
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 1: much there was four of us. I had a family friend,

1594
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: my youngest son, and another guy. One of my nephews

1595
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 1: was there. We laughed so hard a couple of times.

1596
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: Here's the stage. He's talking. I had to turn around.

1597
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: I said, I can't listen. I'm exhausted from lapping. It was.

1598
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 1: It was truly that funny it was. It was awesome. Geez. So,

1599
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 1: uh you know super Bowl MVP. Did you get some

1600
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: sort of car? I got a super Room. You got

1601
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 1: a Super U Super Yes, they had super US in

1602
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 1: eighty eighty seven. Yeah, I guess so because they gave

1603
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 1: me one. Is it good? You still got it? I do?

1604
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 1: What do you do? You use it? It's just sitting

1605
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: down in Kentucky. But I go to New York to

1606
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 1: get the car. The city they have that you know,

1607
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 1: a luncheon, and they go, okay, here it is, get

1608
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 1: into forest. I'm like, it's small. It was really okay

1609
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 1: here I am. I don't know, look no, but it

1610
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 1: was great. Who cares what the car was. That's what

1611
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 1: it stood for exactly. We never we never got a car.

1612
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: I never get I just got a trophy. You didn't

1613
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 1: get a car back car? Super MVP. Yeah, no, they

1614
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:03,520
Speaker 1: stopped it. Wow, they were getting away escalate, escalades, cadillacs,

1615
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 1: GM products. Didn't get it, didn't get anything they give it?

1616
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,560
Speaker 1: You were you a Pro Bowl MVP two? No, I

1617
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 1: think they give away car for it, don't they. Yeah,

1618
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: they used I don't know, I didn't go, didn't know.

1619
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, I the one I played in.

1620
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 1: I was in fortunately the m v P and John

1621
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: Robinson was the coach. And after they named the MVP, goes,

1622
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: did you get a car? I said, I don't know

1623
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 1: what it'll be awesome? You know, I got a trophy

1624
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 1: about this big, I got a cool trophy they gave Yeah,

1625
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:39,919
Speaker 1: they give you like the like the whatever, the silver football,

1626
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 1: the silver Yeah, it's beautiful. Actually was it Tiffany's my

1627
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: mom my mom's house. Oh it is. Yeah. I was

1628
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 1: disappointed in the trophy too. No car, no trophy, Holy Christ.

1629
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: Just lucky to get out of the game. No one,

1630
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: you know. And I remember when it was over, I said,

1631
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm never coming back. I'm not doing this again. This

1632
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: was torture. Is there anything we missed about this game?

1633
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: About the game, No, I don't know what to say

1634
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: about it was, you know, and I've watched the game

1635
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: probably two or three times, and I just couldn't get

1636
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: over how fast it went by. In other words, it

1637
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: seems long or whatever. What I was thinking. Then I

1638
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 1: watched the game, I go, Wow, that game went quick,

1639
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: and wow, we could have lost it like seven different times. Yeah.

1640
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 1: You know, that's what really kind of gets me when

1641
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 1: you look back, Oh my god, we stopped l way.

1642
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 1: Oh he missed the field goal. You know, you just

1643
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: start thinking of all the breaks that kind of go

1644
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,600
Speaker 1: your way or you create. And I think that was

1645
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 1: the biggest thing when I see it. Oh my god.

1646
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 1: Who was Ricky Hunley their middle linebacker. You know, I

1647
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: watched the game once and I just went, oh my god.

1648
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: He was a superstar. He made every tackle I mean,

1649
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 1: and he was pissed off too the whole game. Get up,

1650
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 1: he kicked people, you know, Oh sorry, but I mean

1651
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 1: he was unbelievable. How but I would have never own

1652
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: that unless I sit down and watch the game again.

1653
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 1: You know, some of the guys that played so great.

1654
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 1: Carl Banks was the whole postseason. He was killing Oh

1655
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: my god, it was. He was the MVP really the

1656
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 1: whole postseason. In fact, John Madden even said everybody talks

1657
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: about Lawrence Taylor right now, the best linebacker in the

1658
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: NFL is Carl Banks. Wow. He said it on the air,

1659
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: which is a big thing for and John Badden loved

1660
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 1: Lawrence so him. For him to say that was tells

1661
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: you how great Carl Banks was during that postseason. So well,

1662
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: mister Simms, I do like your shirt. Yeah, it wore

1663
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: this to make you comfortable. Yeah. Well, I'm sweating like

1664
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:39,560
Speaker 1: I hot in here. It is hot, good hot. You

1665
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: know when you get older you sweat a lot. You

1666
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 1: know that I don't. I'm still You'll see. It's things

1667
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 1: to look forward to. It's heat. You're always hot, always

1668
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 1: tired because you can't sleep as well. I mean everybody.

1669
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you can't look forward to the having

1670
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 1: avodka cocktail with the wife and cooking. You can look

1671
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 1: forward to those things I do. It's a simple. It's

1672
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: a simple and you know we're empty nesters. You know,

1673
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 1: of course my kids are all old or they I

1674
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 1: got grand kids, and they go, how's it as empty nest?

1675
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 1: You miss the kids? No, it's awesome. Look at the

1676
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 1: house to ourselves. I don't have to worry about we

1677
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 1: don't have to make dinner for these every night. And

1678
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 1: you know it's great. It's great. From the man, the myth,

1679
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 1: the legend of New York Football Giants, the New York

1680
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 1: Football Giants, Phil Simms. Yeah, no, let me finish up

1681
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 1: with this. I got to say, nobody in history has

1682
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 1: sucked the life out of one game more than me

1683
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: and Joe Namath. Come on, I'm here because of that game,

1684
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: not my career. I mean, everything I do, it's just

1685
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: because of that game. It really is. Well you you

1686
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 1: showed up when it mattered most. Well, big players make

1687
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 1: big plays in big games, mister Sims, and that's exactly

1688
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: what you did for a long time tough football player.

1689
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming. I can't wait. You have a podcast?

1690
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 1: You have? What do you have? You know? I just

1691
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,640
Speaker 1: go on everybody's podcast. No, I don't want to do

1692
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 1: the podcast. King if people call me, I said, yeah,

1693
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 1: can you wait till next week? I got two other

1694
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 1: ones this week. Yeah, I'll do them. You know, I

1695
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: know all the people and it's fun. You're good at it. Well,

1696
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm good at it, but I

1697
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: don't want to do one. All right, you know I'm

1698
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 1: looking not that I'm scaling back because if I work

1699
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 1: to I always say, if I work till I'm ninety,

1700
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: I'll break even. Yeah. So why why is that? Well,

1701
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 1: because I'm the money shredder. Yeah, you're oh you what

1702
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: the money shredder my wife. My wife goes shopping. I

1703
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 1: love it. I don't care. She said, she'll tell you

1704
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: the story. She'll go shopping. She shows that. I said,

1705
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: I love them. Let me see the bill. I go,

1706
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 1: Diana distress. You know what calls so and so, and

1707
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 1: you know what her answer is. You know that's ridiculous.

1708
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this has been going on. I made the

1709
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: mistake in nineteen eighty three. Now wait, my daughter was

1710
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 1: born in eighty four, so maybe it was eighty seven

1711
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: or whatever. My daughter's young. I said, you know, Dana,

1712
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't care what you and dear dreit you can

1713
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: buy all the clothes you want doesn't mean anything because

1714
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 1: clothes were cheap then. Yeah, well, now here we are,

1715
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 1: what thirty some years later, and it's still going on,

1716
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 1: and uh, those clothes are not cheap anymore. So. Well,

1717
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 1: from the man who's married to the money shredder, money shredder,

1718
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: she's proud of it. Women shopping man. Oh shoot, true,

1719
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on, Yeah, having us all right,

1720
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 1: come on time. Unbelievable stories you ever know anything? All right?

1721
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 1: Games with names got you? All right, Man, you're the best,

1722
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: You're the best. Good stuff. Man, he was great. He

1723
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,560
Speaker 1: was good. Yeah, really good. I mean it's he's a

1724
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 1: professional and he's your buddy. I mean, it's cool he's

1725
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: your coworker. Yeah, he's Uh, he's a New York legend.

1726
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 1: I told. I told a good friend of mine. He's

1727
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 1: also a native New Yorker, my friend Matt Sallacus, who

1728
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,679
Speaker 1: who directed one of my specials. And he he goes

1729
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 1: Phil Simms. I said, yeah, he goes. That's a fucking legend.

1730
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:16,719
Speaker 1: He is tough, competitor, great stories. Uh, he's just tough,

1731
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 1: you know. And the Giants defense. That's crazy that he

1732
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 1: has all those intel. I mean it probably made him

1733
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 1: a better quarterback every day going against him. And just

1734
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 1: to hear that these these teams went live on Super

1735
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 1: Bowl Week with a scrimmage. That's crazy. I mean, don't

1736
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 1: you think that is part of what made Tom so great?

1737
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 1: Is that though some of those patriots we didn't have,

1738
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 1: we didn't go live on a you know, I know,

1739
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 1: but you were going against he went against the defense. Definitely,

1740
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 1: definitely going against defense. But I'm just saying the brutality

1741
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 1: of what the game was when mister Simms was playing

1742
01:30:56,960 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 1: like he didn't even he doesn't remember getting a personal

1743
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 1: foul on them, like roughing the quarterback. I mean, we're

1744
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 1: seeing guys protect knees on quarterbacks, fart on quarterbacks, and

1745
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 1: they're getting fifteen yarders in a fine like it's ridicy,

1746
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:15,679
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I mean, if you watched some of these highlights.

1747
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 1: I think there's a highlight of him picking up his

1748
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 1: teeth because he was getting serious. There's these quarterbacks used.

1749
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 1: By the way, farting on a quarterback would be the

1750
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: best celebration dance ever after a sack, just like lifting

1751
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 1: up a leg. That's a that's a badass celebration. Or

1752
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 1: just piss on him with a fire hydrant. Yeah, just

1753
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: fake fake like a zipping down it. Yeah, that's a

1754
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 1: that's a good one. They settled the prop bet. Did

1755
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 1: we do it? Did we get it? We must have

1756
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 1: done it. I had five, damn five. We got to

1757
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 1: review the tape. I'm getting a lot of a lot

1758
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: of conflicting messages here, but I got five. Damn. I'm sorry, guys,

1759
01:31:53,960 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 1: under there's no reason to be sorry, but we'll take it. Jackie.

1760
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 1: What's the legacy for this game? I think it's, you know,

1761
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 1: big blue wrecking crew, This this set up who the

1762
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 1: Giants franchise wanted to be until now. Honestly, whenever the

1763
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 1: Giants win, it's because of the defense. We've had killer

1764
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who rise to the occasion, you know, Sims Eli,

1765
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 1: But like, let's be real, you make it this far

1766
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 1: in the playoffs with a great defense. Complimentary football teams, Yeah,

1767
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, defense, got teams that know how to play

1768
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 1: with each other, you know, and and you know, just

1769
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 1: with with Parcels and how he was trying to push

1770
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 1: buttons to get the best out of his players. That'll

1771
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:44,719
Speaker 1: always stick out from just hearing the stories from Sims.

1772
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 1: Mister sims performance in the Super Bowl eighty eight percent

1773
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 1: completion percentage, getting the Super Bowl MVP. You know, five

1774
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 1: consecutive drives with touchdowns at the end of the game,

1775
01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's that's a that's a super Bowl. Yeah,

1776
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: this was that was they were losing at halftime and

1777
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 1: blow them out. That's that's adjustment. That's players making big

1778
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 1: plays in big situations and great coaches giving great information.

1779
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 1: So you know that was pretty cool. Also Belichick's first

1780
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 1: taste of a Super Bowl. Yeah, as a as an assistant.

1781
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 1: Then he got carried off. We needn't ask him that.

1782
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 1: I didn't ask him that. So what's the lasting image

1783
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 1: for this? I mean, it's pretty crazy that this was

1784
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 1: the first time they ever said we're going to Disneyland,

1785
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 1: because that's all you think about when you were a kid,

1786
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: when you went playing in the backyard with your boys,

1787
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 1: having an imaginary game or whatever, like you always dreamed

1788
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 1: about saying I'm going disney World. I'm going Disneyland. It

1789
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 1: was wholesome. It was wholesome. It wasn't like I'm going

1790
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 1: to the titty bar. It's like, I'm going to Disney

1791
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 1: And the kids were like, oh, okay, yeah, you know,

1792
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to Disneyland. That and the Gatorage splash. The

1793
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 1: Gatorage splash is an on parcels, who's this iconic code

1794
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 1: and all because they didn't. They were mad at him

1795
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:06,600
Speaker 1: during the week. I remember he said he started they

1796
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 1: started it because he was an asshole all week. You

1797
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 1: don't realize that's an aggressive move. Like you think that's

1798
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 1: like we love you, coach, but it was like, fuck you,

1799
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 1: here's your gatorade. It's so funny to see the reactions

1800
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 1: of these coaches when they get hit at the cold

1801
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 1: So funny. There's not beause it's the greatest moment. But

1802
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 1: you're just sticky. Isn't that weird? You're just like I'm

1803
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: just covered in you know, sugar. Yeah, But in defense

1804
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 1: of and like what nutritionists could say, if they're thirsty

1805
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 1: with all the amount of energy output that they, even

1806
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 1: coaches do, just standing out there, maybe just give a

1807
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 1: little lick. You get a lick, get a little sugar.

1808
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 1: But also, dude, during Pasadena, he's getting eaten up by mosquitoes.

1809
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 1: After that, now there's no mosquitos in color. That's humidity.

1810
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 1: That's humidity, humidity something some flies or nothing. Not been

1811
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 1: to California. They were flies. Debatable jacket on that we

1812
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 1: gotta I'm just saying there's no humidity, there's no bugs.

1813
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: How about I got another lasting image for you, Bivarro

1814
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 1: in the end zone and the shot above him sixteen

1815
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 1: to ten giants, because that's the touchdown where they start

1816
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 1: to never look back. Yeah, that's pretty badass. That was

1817
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 1: a physicality to lasting image. That just a physical team,

1818
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 1: physical on offense. You could just tell mister Simms just

1819
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 1: a tough guy defense. We don't even to talk about that.

1820
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 1: We had just no lt Banks, the badasses Jack. What

1821
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 1: do we forget? We got a couple of things here today.

1822
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 1: Phil mentioned Billy Crystal baseball talk. Billy Crystal actually went

1823
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 1: to Marshall on a baseball scholarship, but the program got

1824
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 1: suspended before he could play a game, transferred back to NYU.

1825
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 1: The rest is history. Rumor even has that he was

1826
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 1: classmates with Oliver Stone and Christopher Guest. So those are good.

1827
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 1: You go to NYU, you're giving up on sports. It's over.

1828
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 1: It ain't Marshall Donna say we are n YU. It's done.

1829
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 1: We are what alas other than YU. We talked about

1830
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 1: Dan Marino setting the passing record or passing attempts record

1831
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:20,640
Speaker 1: at six twenty three that season. It's been blown out

1832
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:22,719
Speaker 1: of the water. Just to put it in context, Brady

1833
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 1: had seven hundred nineteen passing attempts last season, and that's

1834
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 1: not even first. Matthew Stafford in twenty twelve seven hundred

1835
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: and twenty seven extra game. Yeah, extra game and they

1836
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 1: just throw the balls all day. We also talked about

1837
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 1: the wind in the Wind Bowl and the equated it

1838
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 1: to Bill taking the wind in a twenty thirteen game

1839
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: against the Broncos twenty four nothing comeback, Patriots end up

1840
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 1: winning an overtime Bill takes the wind. Jewels finished with

1841
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 1: nine catches one hundred and ten yards to TDS to

1842
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 1: bad day against the wind, but great Bob Seger song

1843
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 1: again again love Bob Singer rules in the page. Buddy,

1844
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 1: Oh that's the the road song. Oh it's perfect. Got

1845
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 1: two more Dr Pepper, I know where got a packed

1846
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 1: one today? Uh? Today. The prune juice rumor has nagged

1847
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 1: Doctor Pepperson's the nineteen thirties. It's a unique blend of

1848
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:27,600
Speaker 1: natural and artificial flavors. No prune juice, but it is.

1849
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 1: It is a rumor. The rumors get started. That's like

1850
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 1: the Richard gear gerbil in the ass. It's probably not true,

1851
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 1: but it must really hurt him, you know, does he?

1852
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 1: There's got to be some truth, who knows. I mean,

1853
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 1: it's got to come from somewhere, I know. But that's

1854
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 1: got If that's not true, that's got a stink. Well

1855
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 1: how men years ago was that? I don't know, Because

1856
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,679
Speaker 1: the Gerbil thing was like a hot topic for a second,

1857
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 1: it had to be post pretty Woman. He's not landing

1858
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 1: a romantic comedy lead as the Gerbil guy. I mean

1859
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 1: with that, he's a silber fox. That's pretty handsome. He

1860
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 1: is handsome, handsome guy. Good looking guy, good looking guy.

1861
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 1: That rumor has been around since ninety eight. Wow, yeah,

1862
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 1: that's post pretty Woman. Oh yeah, wait post yeah, primal

1863
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: Fear Salad, Richard Gear Movie, Young Ed Norton, all right,

1864
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 1: one last one, last one. Phil was a talker on

1865
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 1: this episode. Phil was a talker in the postgame interview

1866
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 1: of this so CBS did not get to air one

1867
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,679
Speaker 1: shining moment, which we now know is played after every

1868
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 1: n CUBA tournament. It was supposed to be for the

1869
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. The lyric was the ball is kicked, and

1870
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 1: we now know it has been changed to the ball

1871
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 1: is tipped for the NCAA tournament. They saved it, use

1872
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:43,720
Speaker 1: it for the NCAA tournament. Now it's legendary. What are

1873
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:45,559
Speaker 1: we even talking about? You know the song they play

1874
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 1: at the end of every NCUAA tournament. Absolutely not huh, Well,

1875
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 1: you guys gotta watch some college troops. I don't know.

1876
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 1: I mean we watch it. Oh man, I don't know

1877
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:58,600
Speaker 1: the song. I'm usually knocked out with my bracket in

1878
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 1: like the first three days, so I stink, all right,

1879
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 1: not a as badly as Julian is in our fantasy

1880
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 1: football league. But I won this last week. I didn't

1881
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 1: get murdered in my Pickhum's league with inside the NFL. Literally,

1882
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 1: I think I need to just I went four for twelve,

1883
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:21,439
Speaker 1: four for twelve. I'm going to start making my picks

1884
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,680
Speaker 1: and then turn in the opposite. That's what I have

1885
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 1: to I mean, it's it's a fucking disaster. Yeah, he's

1886
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 1: fucking handicappers slame the game. That's tough. I think it's

1887
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:37,640
Speaker 1: got to be. I'm going to Disney World game. I

1888
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 1: don't think that's it. Although that's that's a good name,

1889
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 1: but it's that's after the game. You can't call the game.

1890
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 1: Some of them the post game, the Gatorway Shower game.

1891
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 1: It's that's a great image, but I don't think that's it.

1892
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be. Mister Sims goes to Pasadena,

1893
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 1: Mister Simms goes to Pasadena. That's good. It's three children,

1894
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 1: but we just call it the Giants first super Bowl.

1895
01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's pretty that works. Okay, which way

1896
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:10,800
Speaker 1: are you leaning? Well, let's give mister Simms roses. Let's

1897
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:12,799
Speaker 1: do it, give us a lot of time. Mister Simms

1898
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 1: goes to Pasadena. It's like Curious George goes to Pasaden.

1899
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 1: Mister Simms goes to Pastinas. That's that's that's good. Curious

1900
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 1: George fucking rules Smith goes to Washington. Well, I think

1901
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 1: it's a rip riff on. Uh yeah, the movie oh

1902
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 1: holy smokes, yeah no, but Curious Chorge was good. I'm like, escape.

1903
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 1: I think they escaped the Nazis. Isn't that the story

1904
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 1: with Curious George. They escaped the Nazis with only their

1905
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 1: books and they and they like came and started up.

1906
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 1: I think that's the whole Curious George story. Really look

1907
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 1: into that, look into that. That's good. How do we

1908
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 1: score the game? Uh? Steaks, Steaks are high. It's a

1909
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 1: super Bowl, first super Bowl for the New York Football Giants.

1910
01:40:57,400 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 1: That pretty much starts their lineage. It's interesting because like steaks,

1911
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 1: now you look at for the Broncos. They're high, but

1912
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 1: you know Lway one two at the end, it's not

1913
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 1: like he would be back. He would so you can't

1914
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 1: go as high for that. But for the Giants, the

1915
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 1: stakes are high, I think because you have this amazing defense.

1916
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:21,759
Speaker 1: If you don't deliver with this team, it's it's a letdown.

1917
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 1: They've got they they blew, they blew the breaks off

1918
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:29,560
Speaker 1: of the forty. Yeah, so the stake like this was

1919
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:31,880
Speaker 1: their shot. Yeah, because the Niners were the team of

1920
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 1: the eighties exactly, So I think the stakes are pretty

1921
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 1: high for the Giants. Yeah, I would say nine flat

1922
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 1: nine flat nine Yeah, I know. Yeah. Star power, I

1923
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 1: mean we have there's so many huges. It's a huge

1924
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 1: star power because you have to not just the players,

1925
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 1: but the coaches. Very true. I mean, this is it's

1926
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:52,640
Speaker 1: like a nine to three maybe, is that crazy? I

1927
01:41:52,720 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 1: mean you've got Lway, Lt Sims, Banks, Belichick, Parcels, big names. E. Yeah. Yeah,

1928
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 1: we gotta go nine two nine two. That's it's it's tough.

1929
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 1: That's nine two, I'll get we gotta go nine two. Gameplay,

1930
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 1: I mean, the goal line stand was good. It was

1931
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 1: a back and forth battle in the first half, but

1932
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:18,559
Speaker 1: then it became a It wasn't amazing. It wasn't an

1933
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 1: amazing game. Now, it's not like it came down to

1934
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 1: the wire or something. No, what do you think like

1935
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:29,640
Speaker 1: eight two seven eight, seven four six eight, Kyler is

1936
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 1: a hater man. Seven to two, seven to two. It's

1937
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 1: a seven pass. It's really good. The name is I

1938
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 1: can't go too high in the name. Mister Simms goes

1939
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 1: to Pasadena because it's what like a seven? You're going lower?

1940
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 1: Five six? All right? Five six? Are we disrespecting him,

1941
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 1: mister Simms. We're gonna hear from him. We said it.

1942
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:57,439
Speaker 1: It's in Let's see what the game Kyler? Dude, Russian

1943
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:01,800
Speaker 1: seven point eight, that's pretty good. The Iron iron Man

1944
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 1: match was a nine or eight? Was it? It was

1945
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 1: an eight eight? That's an eighty eight place a full point. Yeah,

1946
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 1: the Ironman mattress pretty hardcore. It's pretty hard. I mean,

1947
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 1: isn't New York football giants? Well? Look, I would love

1948
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:16,640
Speaker 1: to go higher here. I'm just saying, but you got

1949
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 1: we gotta be got to honor this score the game.

1950
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 1: We have to on the score. But I just want

1951
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 1: people to know, like I tried to give him more,

1952
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:25,680
Speaker 1: and you know, Sam just said, Hey, no, dude, you

1953
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:32,959
Speaker 1: it's right where it's at. Remember Games with Names on YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok,

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Speaker 1: We're everywhere. Subscribe on Apple podcasts, Spotify, wherever you listen, uh,

1955
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Speaker 1: comment on a game, rate and review us, swipe up yeah,

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Speaker 1: rate review, comment, like and talk to us. And curious

1957
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 1: George anything you were correct, Boom, suck at Nazis. You

1958
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 1: couldn't stop curious. George bared you, bared you for life.

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Speaker 1: And that was a fun episode. And that's all for

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Speaker 1: this episode of Games with Names, presented by win Bet.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening, and thank you

1962
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Speaker 1: to our sponsors and to our great guest, our mister Simms.

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Speaker 1: I'm Julian Edelman, I'm Samuel. We'll see you next game.