1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the new I Heart Radio and Coast to 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Coast Adium Paranormal Podcast Network. Like us on Facebook, tell 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: your friends and shure us with everyone. This is an 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: exciting new network that will feature podcasts on the paranormal, supernatural, 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: and the unexplained. Now please enjoy the Darker Side of 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Life with Heidi Hollis. You are listening to the Darker 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Side of Life with me, Heidi Hollis on the I 8 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a m paranormal podcast Network. 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to my show. This is the show where each 10 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: week you get to share your personal experiences and I 11 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: hope to give you some advice and insight on everything 12 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: from angels to aliens and my specialty of shadow people 13 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: and hat man. Since I am that person who first 14 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: named and defined both phenomena, I have received thousands of 15 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: stories over the years about them, and I have been 16 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: researching and writing about a variety of odd mysteries for 17 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: a very long time because I am also someone who 18 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: has been there, seen that, experienced it, freaked out, found 19 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: some answers, got over it, and now I'm hoping to 20 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: help others do the same thing. If you would like 21 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: to submit your experience. Please visit my main website at 22 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis dot com, where you'll also find a lot 23 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: of different elements, like my blog called The hat Man Letters, 24 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: my various books, and even my paranormal comic strip called 25 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: The Outlanders. I feel that it's time that we all 26 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: bray all of our mysteries to the forefront, out from 27 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: our paranormal closets, from the darker side of life, to 28 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: help move us all into the light. The email that 29 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to focus on today is very extensive and 30 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: very involved, and it has a couple of different parts 31 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: to it that you'll see here. It begins, Dear Heidie, 32 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: my girlfriend has some kind of dark entity or strange 33 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: force following her. It has been literally harassing us daily 34 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: for more than two years. We've got poltergeist activity that 35 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: is not only active in one particular place, not even 36 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 1: in one building. Instead, it's something that follows her wherever 37 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: she goes. We have even been able to communicate with it, 38 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: where we put out a piece of paper and answers 39 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: will just appear. Sometimes the answers are understandable, but other 40 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: times it's like some kind of strange script or signs 41 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: that we just don't understand. We weren't sure what we 42 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: were dealing with until recently. That's when my girlfriend said 43 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: she saw hat Man in the mirror. She saw hat 44 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: Man was drinking from both of our glasses. She was 45 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: sure they were empty as she turned to quickly look 46 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: in his direction. In the past, she has seen hat 47 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: Man many times before this, but she had no idea 48 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: he was connected to all of this crazy stuff going 49 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: on around us. Then for us to find out that 50 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: this is a worldwide phenomenon where people see this hat Man, 51 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: that was just mind blowing. Just when I thought these 52 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: strange things and happenings couldn't get any worse, things got 53 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: really crazy when I try to recite some exorcism passages 54 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: I learned of. We would be grateful for any tips 55 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: you can share with us. We really want to learn 56 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: how to get this thing to leave us alone. Thank 57 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: you Andreas Well. Andreas. I have to say, there's not 58 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: a lot of detail here that I generally would like 59 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: to see in a letter, especially one that involves as 60 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: many different layers as what is happening to your girlfriend. 61 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: It's really puzzling to me when I hear so much 62 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: attention being placed on a single per soon, and I 63 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: have to wonder why why is that? Because hat Man 64 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: does get attracted to moments of weakness, illness, depression, So 65 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: I have to wonder did something happen a couple of 66 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: years ago to your girlfriend that made her vulnerable to 67 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: his approach. That's something that I really wish I had 68 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: a better understanding of. And when so much attention is 69 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: put on someone like that, I also have to wonder 70 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: what is so darn interesting. You know, hat Man can 71 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: and will show up randomly. Somebody's dog died, they got sick, 72 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: or something like that, and he'll show up and it's 73 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: very abrupt and disturbing. But to keep coming back, that's 74 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: that's something they very very peculiar to me. That has 75 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: me questioning what his goal and focuses. And you're saying 76 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: that he picked up your glasses. You know, I have 77 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: to tell you, I don't think I recall getting an 78 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: email of hat Man taking a sip out of somebody's drink. 79 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: First off, that's gross. Second of all, I don't know 80 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: what would be the interest. And your girlfriend was certain 81 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: these glasses were empty. Huh. That's uh. That has me 82 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: really really puzzled. But the more interesting fact is your 83 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: girlfriend had seen hat Man before these two years. But somehow, 84 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: you guys are certain this is part of the whole 85 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: poulter Geist like phenomena you've got going on here. Moving 86 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: on to the other aspects of what you said in 87 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: experiencing poulter guist activity, what exactly are we talking about here? 88 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: Are your blankets getting ripped off? Are things getting knocked over? 89 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: Did something get thrown at you? I wish that you 90 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: could be more specific about what's going on, because it 91 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: really does help me to better understand when more details 92 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: our place. So when others go to write me, please 93 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: make the email as long as you want, because it's 94 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: really really necessary to decipher and interpret what is going 95 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: on and is it really hot? Man? There's there's so much, 96 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: There's so many questions. But I'm also curious if you 97 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: feel a certain presence, Is there something going on with 98 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: these things? And what made you put out a piece 99 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: of paper to try to communicate with it? I mean 100 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: that that lets me know potentially you've got did feel 101 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: a presence of some sort, because that's that's not something 102 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: that I would generally do myself. And I'm a little 103 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: bit leary and weary when people try to communicate with 104 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: these things, even if it does seem innocent. But this 105 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: doesn't seem innocent at all, because you guys are really 106 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: in a pickle trying to find some answers. So that 107 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: that really has me wondering what it is that you 108 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: guys have sensed that you gave it this opportunity and 109 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: for it to write back. I really would love to 110 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: see what it is that was written and what these 111 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: symbols are. So if you get that opportunity, send it 112 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: my way. But moving on with what's going on, so 113 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: I have to wonder still again what happened a couple 114 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: of years ago, and if your girlfriend can point that out, 115 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: because whatever trauma took place or did, she happened to 116 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: move into a place that was infested with his presence 117 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: and he just got attached. That's a possibility. Whatever it is, 118 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: he is just way too close for comfort, and I'm 119 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: really kind of concerned. I mean, you said wherever she goes, 120 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: this presence comes with her. I mean, how disturbing is 121 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: that you can't go to the grocery store, you can't 122 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: go to work. I've actually had people write me about 123 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: that didn't seem to matter where they were at, or 124 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: it seemed to matter when they went into a certain building. 125 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: I think those are better cases actually, instead of having 126 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: it in your home. But you're saying this goes on 127 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: everywhere that I just there has to be something, and 128 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes finding what that trigger was helps to 129 00:09:53,800 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: bring about resolution to the entire situation. So have her 130 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: take a look into her past on that, and you know, 131 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: get back to me on it, because I think this 132 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: is something that could really spiral out of control, and 133 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: obviously that has already happened according to what you put here. 134 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Exorcism passages, things got really crazy after you did that. Huh. 135 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. That's not something I would toss around 136 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: very lightly. Exorcism passages. I mean, there are people who 137 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: specialize in such things for a reason because it could 138 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: be quite dangerous. It could be risky life or death 139 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: for you and your girlfriend and others who just so 140 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: happened to be around. It is really really not recommended. 141 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: And it sounds like you guys really have wow got 142 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: yourself going down this spiral. You know, I think it's 143 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: really important at this stage that you and your girlfriend 144 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: surround yourself with good support friends, local church, family, whatever 145 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: helps bring strength between you two, because right now you 146 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: are dealing with a huge evil challenge and I'm afraid 147 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: this is really going to be something of a struggle 148 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: because it sounds like it is really continuing to make 149 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: a dent. So I tell you this, and I tell 150 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: many people this, bless your personal space, and that is 151 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: a method that I write about and I talk about often. 152 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: But whatever your personal faith is, I'm Christian, so I'm 153 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: never hesitant to say I use Jesus name to move 154 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: things out of my personal space. And I use water. 155 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: I don't use anything else. Spring water, holy water, and 156 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: I put that in every single corner and say a prayer. 157 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: But it's a big, long method that I personally do 158 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: what it really does work. But I want you to 159 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: really take it upon yourselves to protect yourselves with prayer, 160 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: fight fire with fire. To be honest, And you know, 161 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: I have to tell my audience here. Since this letter 162 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: came in, these people responded with even more information about 163 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: what is really going on. And you think this is something, 164 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: Oh boy, it gets much worse. You are list thing 165 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: to the darker side of life with me. 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Just before going to break, we 185 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: had an email from Andreas who was very concerned about 186 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: a very dark presence that they now recognized to be 187 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: hat Man was harassing his girlfriend for the past couple 188 00:14:55,200 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: of years every single day. Now, Andreas got back to 189 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: me because I had a lot of questions. I couldn't 190 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: understand exactly the whole scenario, like what took place a 191 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: couple of years ago? Why is this so persistently after 192 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: his girlfriend and he obliged And this is the next email. Hi, Heidi, 193 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: thank you for getting back to me. You were wondering 194 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: what crazy things have happened out of the ordinary, and 195 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what has not happened. All that 196 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned has happened. Things have been thrown and moved 197 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: on their own. Once I tried to talk to the 198 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: energy while in a restaurant, I told it it had 199 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: lost and cannot be around us anymore. Suddenly the table 200 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: started moving in all directions for ten minutes, the whole 201 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: time that I was talking. Another time, a glass of 202 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: wine appeared on our table at home that didn't belong 203 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: to us. We went to sit down. That's when my 204 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: girlfriend got yanked and dragged along the floor while still 205 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: sitting in the chair next to that mystery glass. That's 206 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: when I got really angry and started playing St. Michael's 207 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: prayers from my speakers and reciting the verses while demanding 208 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: it to leave. Now, that's when things got really scary, 209 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: because items were thrown around the room, like glasses, knives, 210 00:16:54,840 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: and even stones. Oddly, only small things have hit me, 211 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: like rocks or fruit, but big things like knives or 212 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: bottles would miss and hit the wall. I still kept 213 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: on going for about an hour that time, saying versus 214 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: and whatnot. It looked like a war zone took place 215 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: and it took hours to clean up afterwards. Then the 216 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: next day I found my speaker outside next to the 217 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: swimming pool all smashed up. Me and my girlfriend we 218 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: hear odd sounds all night long that are really really creepy. 219 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: If I mentioned some of the stranger things, you might 220 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: think that we are both nuts. We moved from Finland 221 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: to Portugal last year and we haven't seen the hat 222 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: man until last month that when she saw him outside 223 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: our house in the garden. Then two days afterwards, we 224 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: endured the worst attack thus far, and I still need 225 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: to repair our room after that. While that attack was 226 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: going on, my girlfriend saw hatman outside of our balcony. 227 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: She said it was the first time she heard him speaking, 228 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: saying harm you, harm you, as he waved his arms 229 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: at her as if to say that she should go 230 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: back outside. She actually did go outside of the house, 231 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: but luckily nothing happened. Then we thought, maybe, just maybe 232 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: he's a helper of some kind. That's when we went 233 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: online and read about this hat man that you named. 234 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: We are now pretty sure it's been him that's been 235 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: causing all of our issues. It was that night that 236 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: I believe my girlfriend quite literally became possessed, because she 237 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: started speaking to me while she was sleeping, saying what 238 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: I would tell this negative energy, like you weak piece 239 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: of crap and things like that. Then the voice would add, 240 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: have to kill and kill you. Since then, she sees 241 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: hat Man regularly. In Finland, hat Man would only stare 242 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: at her before he got really bad like this. In 243 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: Portugal a few years ago, she was sick with cancer 244 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: and only had two months to live. The in miraculously 245 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: it all disappeared and she was cured. She said hat 246 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: Man was next to her bed almost every day as 247 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: she lay there dying. She describes him as being seven 248 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: and a half feet tall, wide and black, with a 249 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: long coat on. She can't ever see his face, and 250 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: he has something shiny on a chain hanging on his waist. 251 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: She has been paralyzed as she watched him drink wine 252 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: while he looked at me sleeping. Hat Man was reading 253 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: some verses she couldn't understand another time, and then when 254 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: I woke up, there was an empty wine glass there 255 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: that we did not even own. These are just a 256 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: few examples of what's been going on, and I'm not 257 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: sure why writing all of this, but it does make 258 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: me feel better to tell someone. We also have noticed 259 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: some patterns of the hat Man, and the activity gets 260 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: worse when there's negative things going on. But if we 261 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 1: stay positive, it doesn't go away, but it is weaker 262 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: and odd things happen less often. Thanks again, Andreas. Wow, 263 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: now I told you it got much worse. This is 264 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: just mind blowing. Now I'm asked what happened a couple 265 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: of years ago that might have attracted hat Man, And 266 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: we see here she was near death, so he took 267 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: interest and took advantage during that very difficult time in 268 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: her life where she may have actually passed away. Now 269 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: what concerns me when people are near death and they 270 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: see hat Man lingering and waiting. Oh gosh, how can 271 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: I put this nicely? Like that? Soul he felt was 272 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: his and that he should have the access to that 273 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 1: person when they cross over. Luckily, she did not cross 274 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: over at that time and was healed. Now, who does healings? 275 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 1: Let's think I would say God spared her. Now imagine 276 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: angry hat man sitting there waiting his time to have 277 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: the opportunity to grab her, and God healed her. I 278 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: would say he's a bit ticked. I would say that 279 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: he is looking for his uh, his reward, his treasure, 280 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: that he wants it now. Also, someone who has had 281 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: such a close brush with death. I've known many people 282 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: who have had that kind of thing happen and and 283 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: they become extremely gifted psychic. Even so, that makes me 284 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: wonder if that even ticks him off. Even more so 285 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: she's gifted. He feels she was taken from him, and wow, 286 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: not surprising. I just have that feeling something had happened 287 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and here it is now. 288 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: I can't help but to have more questions to ask 289 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: Andreas and his girlfriend here, because when you're met with 290 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: something like that and met with your end and you 291 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: see what may be coming for you, that can really 292 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: flip a lot of people well to change their faith 293 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 1: and get a lot stronger with it. And I hope 294 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: that is the case, because if hat man was that 295 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: close to grabbing you, who not good? Not good at all. 296 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: So um, this is this is uh something that is 297 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: really disturbing as well for me because it sounds to 298 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: me like he is indeed aiming to possess her. And 299 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: you said she acted possessed, saying things in her sleep, 300 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: repeating your words that you would say to the hat 301 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: man to try to get him to leave you alone. 302 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: This may be a bit above my level of being 303 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: able to help you, to be honest, but it's important 304 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: to build a defense around you while you're sleeping, while 305 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: you're going to work, when you're out about so you 306 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: don't have to keep seeing him everywhere. And I'm speaking 307 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: to your girlfriend, of course, but yeah, very important to 308 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: do that. And how you do that is again blessing 309 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: your space. I use spring water that i'll have in 310 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: the sunlight for a couple of hours or holy water, 311 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: and I'll go and bless every single corner and every 312 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: center of the rooms that are in my space. And 313 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: I'll use my cross necklace when I'm doing that, so 314 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: I keep the blessing with me wherever I go. So 315 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: that's a method that I think is the first step 316 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: of defense for you. But also because this is at 317 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: a level where it seems to have dug its claws 318 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 1: a bit deeper, You're really going to have to seek 319 00:25:55,119 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 1: help fund this. And I'll tell you that level of 320 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: seeking help can come in a lot of different ways. 321 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: And I've got a lot of people reach out to 322 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: me when they have sought help and they didn't always 323 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: get the help they were seeking. I'll get into that 324 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: a little bit here after the break, but know that 325 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: there is help, all right. 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Just prior to the break, I had another 351 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: email from Andreas and his girlfriend who moved from Finland 352 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: to Portugal and have essentially not been able to shake 353 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: hat Man and his polter geist activity and what seems 354 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: to be a case of possession to some extent, which 355 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: is really really disturbing and um you know. I was 356 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: mentioning how some people reach out for help and don't 357 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: always get the help that they're needing. And what I 358 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: mean by that is, oh, my gosh. I have had 359 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: people tell me they've reached out to members of their 360 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: church or a church down the street, or the church 361 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: of their childhood, and some of the awful things that 362 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: have been told to them as a response for their 363 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: cries for help just breaks my heart, to be honest, absolutely, 364 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: And those responses have been we'll join our church and 365 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: we'll think about it, or ignore the spirit, or this 366 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: is the worst one, donate some money to our church 367 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: and will consider it. Yeah, There's been a lot of 368 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: different cases like that, and and it breaks my heart 369 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: to the extent that these people really are trying, and 370 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: they're really desperate and just don't know what button to 371 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: push when they're facing such ultimate evil as the hatman. 372 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: And not until you've been met with something like him, 373 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: do you know what I'm talking about. But as you 374 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: can hear in this person's email, Wow, it's gone to 375 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: a level of it's taking over her body while she's sleeping, 376 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: and also to the extent of disrupting tables, moving them, 377 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: levitating things, throwing things and could honestly do great harm 378 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: to not just the girlfriend of Andreas here, but to himself. 379 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: And luckily it's so strange. He's had things thrown at him, 380 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: but the light things only hit him, not the heavy 381 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: duty things like knives and whatnot that could really cause 382 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: some damage. And believe it or not, that's a pattern. 383 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what that is always, but I think 384 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: sometimes it has to do with this thing I like 385 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: to call human potential human potential, where I think that 386 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: we kind of block the word things to be able 387 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: to come at us. Dare I say? And I also 388 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: have to say the human potential is one that gets 389 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: a person to get these types of things attached to them. Now, 390 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: under his girlfriend had a very close call to crossing over, 391 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,239 Speaker 1: and people who have that close call come back with 392 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: a lot of gifts. She may have had gifts beforehand, 393 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: as she mentioned she had experienced hat Man before. So 394 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 1: hat Man likes to control the future people who are gifted. 395 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: Honest to goodness, that is a very big pattern that 396 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: I see. So do you take that as a warning 397 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: or shameful thing to have a gift? No, I don't 398 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: think so. But I think when we can own up 399 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: to knowing that we have something special like that on 400 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: our side, and he wants it, wants to own it, 401 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: then then I think that we should own it, you 402 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So hat Man is after her 403 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: because she is something different and special. She was miraculously 404 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: cured spontaneously of a cancer while she lie in her 405 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 1: bed near death, watching hat Man glaring at her, waiting 406 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: for his opportunity to get a hold of her, and 407 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: she gets better. Oh he is not happy, not one bit. 408 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: So I would say she was given the ultimate gift, 409 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: the gift of life. Own that gift, owned this opportunity 410 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: that was given, and he wants it. So he's lurking. 411 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: He's doing whatever it is to get your attention because 412 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: it puts us in a state of fear. It's working 413 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: to put you in a state of fear to wonder 414 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: what do we do with this? And you're putting all 415 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: this energy out into that, and it's got to be 416 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: causing stress. It has to be. Don't let him get 417 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: between you like that, don't let him break you down, 418 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: and you stand strong in who you are, knowing God 419 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: took favor on you and spared you. That's a big 420 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: deal that something the likes of the devil himself had 421 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: to come and and bug you every day, every day. 422 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: Oh he's not happy now. Personally, I'm gonna tell you 423 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: when he acts up or other things act up that 424 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: are negative, it lets me know I'm on the right track. 425 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: And I say you own that as well. You have 426 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: a second chance at life. Do not let the lurking 427 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: hat man take you down. No, I'm gonna also give 428 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: you some other suggestions to do to try to lift things, 429 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: to be a bit more positive in your personal space. 430 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: I said, to bless it, but also bring joy in 431 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 1: your place. Only play comedies, laugh a lot. Hat Man 432 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: hates humor, he hates joy. Put on some happy music, 433 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: open the windows, get some pets. And I know this 434 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: is hard. I know this is hard, but I like 435 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: to crack jokes. Personally. He doesn't like that, and I 436 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: don't mean like insult him, go after him, and I 437 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 1: could feed into him. So No, but I don't want 438 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: you to run. I don't want you to scream. I 439 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: don't want you to act up in that way. But 440 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: stand firm where you are are, stand in who you are, 441 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: and find that inner strength and your faith to pull 442 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: that in as well to formulate this defense against his onslaught. 443 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: He's so in your face all the time. I just 444 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: can't imagine. And you know, he's digging his claws in 445 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: two get you when your defense is down. I didn't 446 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: hear that he's pulling your girlfriend's strings while she's conscious, 447 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: only that her chair got pulled around a little bit, 448 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: but not like from the inside out. I didn't hear 449 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: that part. And if that's the case, he's doing this 450 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 1: little coward move he likes to do when people are sleeping, 451 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: and and then like that's when he's his most crafty, 452 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: like oh oh, oh, oh, I'm sleeping, and now you come. Yeah, yeah, 453 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: that's that's a cawrd move, Like you're at your weakest point, 454 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: defenses are down, and oh, here he comes. We're gonna 455 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: get her to talk her to sleep. You know, if 456 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: it's starting to look and feel like a possession, you 457 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: do need help, and that help can come in the 458 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: form of friends, family, praying, and find that person that 459 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: is a leader in your faith that will take the 460 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: time to work with you. Now, it may not be local, 461 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: but there are places online that you can find that 462 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: you can reach out to who will send you items 463 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: that will help you in protecting your home, protecting your life, 464 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: protecting your space, and and have faith in where you stand. Now. 465 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 1: A lot of people are like, oh boy, she's gonna 466 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: get all religious on us. It's like, you know, hold on. 467 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: You are looking at something you know as the epitome 468 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: of evil, right, you better hope there is an opposite 469 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: force that could take this on. What that is for you, 470 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 1: I don't know a pair of shiny shoes. I mean 471 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: you have to realize that these negative things are really 472 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: hoping that we do not turn to their polar opposite, 473 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: and that is light, that is God, that is your 474 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: faith in this more powerful being that is good. I'm Christian, 475 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: I go to Jesus, I speak of God. Uh. I 476 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: have friends that have different belief systems and they use 477 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: that as well. And it's about creating this space of 478 00:37:53,480 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: making something horrific feel uncomfortable. So yeah, I'm not surprised now. 479 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: Earlier in the first email, Andreas mentioned how he was 480 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: got his hands on some exorcism passages and really take 481 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: this thing off. Well, yeah, that would happen. Um, I 482 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: don't suggest that without the help of clergy, because if 483 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: you're not able to defend yourself against the onslaught that 484 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: will come. You could really really get yourself into trouble 485 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: and cause some serious harm. People die from exorcisms. You 486 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: know that, So don't do that. Um So yeah, find 487 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: your strength in this trust, in the gift that was 488 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: given to you. Don't let this dark pile of garbage 489 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: mess up this path that was given to you with 490 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: this new lease on life. Look at how many people 491 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: pray for healing from such a horrible diagnosis and you 492 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: were given it. That is a tremendous gift. Don't let 493 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: hat man lead this special gift in any direction that 494 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 1: isn't meant for you. He does not own you. Okay, 495 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: do God right with this gift? All right? And personally, 496 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see where you go with it. 497 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: Keep in touch and let me know how things are going. 498 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: I love to get feedback, but oddly enough I rarely 499 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: do get feedback or even follow up emails like Andreas 500 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: did here. So I appreciate you Andreas getting back to me. 501 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: And you know, things go well. People just seem to 502 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: move on with their lives, which is great of course. 503 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 1: Next up, I have a brief email where a jum 504 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: Alman witnessed what he believes may have been hat Man. 505 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: It was so brief, so it's left them puzzled. Then, yeah, 506 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: Hatman doesn't always have to come every day in order 507 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: to be hats Man. You are listening to the Darker 508 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: Side of Life with me, Heidi House on the I 509 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast and Paranormal Podcast Network, 510 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: and we will be right back. Hey, folks. 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Just prior to the break, 530 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: I had a couple of emails from a gentleman and 531 00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: his girlfriend who moved from Finland to Portugal and had 532 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: the hat Man hot on their heels. Really mind blowing situation, 533 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: So thank you for that, Andreas. Now the next email says, 534 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: dear Heidie, my name is Nate and I was just 535 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: listening to you on Coast to Coast. Am. I have 536 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: a hat Man story. I think it was a translucent 537 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:32,919 Speaker 1: figure back in during the day in my room by 538 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: the fireplace, standing next to me as I was sitting 539 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: by the computer. The figure seemed to be wearing what 540 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 1: looked like a hat and long coat from the outline 541 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: that I could see, but I saw no other details. 542 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: It stood to be about six ft tall and facing 543 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,720 Speaker 1: in my direction, and it was only maybe four ft 544 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: from where I was sitting. It was a clear, shadowy 545 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: figure and I looked right at it as I felt 546 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: a really uncomfortable tingling feeling going down my back and neck. 547 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: I immediately told it to go take a walk. Please 548 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: leave my space, I demanded. Then I watched it fade away. 549 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: The whole encounter was maybe only thirty seconds or less. 550 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for your time. I look forward to your thoughts 551 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: on this and your response, Nate. Well, Nate, that honestly 552 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: sounds like a typical shadowy hat Man situation. I get 553 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: a lot of those, and imagine everyone, this was ten 554 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: years ago for Nate and it's still fresh on his 555 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: mind that he would even look for someone who handles 556 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: this type of situation. I get so many of those, 557 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, was it hat Man? You 558 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: know hat Man doesn't always wear a hat, but in 559 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: this situation, okay, he had a hat and he had 560 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: a long trench coat on. Now that's a typical apparition 561 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: of hat Man. He could wear a trench coat, he 562 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: could wear a cape, uh, sometimes a top hat, sometimes 563 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:36,720 Speaker 1: of fedora, sometimes a gaucho hat, and as I mentioned, 564 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: no hat at all. People say he's very translucent but shadowy, 565 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: and other times he's just absent of any light just 566 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: completely black, and the people will sometimes even see Now, 567 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: this is a horrible situation in scenario, but imagine seeing 568 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: his red glowing eyes that that just takes a cake, 569 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 1: just takes a cake. Now it can also go where 570 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 1: you can see every last detail of him, looks like 571 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: a man just standing there. You could see a watch 572 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 1: on his hip, and the last email Andreas said it 573 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: looked like he had something shiny on a chain that 574 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: is a chained watch. Sometimes he even has a cane. 575 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: Other times people see his skin instead of shadow. They'll 576 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: describe if he's clean shaven, or if he's got a goatee, 577 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: or if he's got a mustache. And unfortunately, when they 578 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,320 Speaker 1: see his skin and they see his eyes, they're usually 579 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: solid black. And the feeling that is given off from 580 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: hat Man is unlike anything people have ever experienced. Now. 581 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: Back in the day, when I was first introducing shadow 582 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 1: people and hat Man, I originally called hat Man hat 583 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: Man's shadow, as if he was just another form that 584 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: shadow people took. Then I got clarity as this guy 585 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: stepped out from the shadows to reveal that he had 586 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: facial hair or not, so he became his own entity. 587 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 1: And yeah, he's related to shadow people in the sense 588 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:43,280 Speaker 1: that they can do kind of similar things, making people 589 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: feel paralyzed, unable to move or speak or scream, making 590 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 1: people feel as if their very life is about to 591 00:46:53,480 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: end as they are bearing witness to the most evil presence. Ever, however, 592 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: when people have experienced shadow people and the hat Man, 593 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: whether together or separate, hat Man hits a whole other 594 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:18,320 Speaker 1: level of evil and fear and dreading. I didn't hear 595 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: Nate mentioned having this feeling of dread or anything. He 596 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: just spoke of seeing hat Man, And for some reason 597 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 1: I understand people don't like to go into details of 598 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,760 Speaker 1: having such fear does come up from the bottom of them, 599 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: just exploding out of their chest. People describe it kind 600 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 1: of being like a near death experience, believe it or not, 601 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 1: because the fear is so overwhelming. Now, again, Nate didn't 602 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: go there, didn't go into that, and there's a lot 603 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: of elements that people won't go into detail on that 604 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:02,959 Speaker 1: I am always suspicious of. But hat Man coming as 605 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: he did in Nate's life, again, I can't help but 606 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: to wonder what attracted him at that moment. Was there 607 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: an illness, was there some major stress going on and 608 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 1: It's not always that what attracts hat Man. Sometimes Hatman 609 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 1: brings those joys with him. He will insinuate and instigate 610 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 1: something to happen, to have illness, depression, oppress people, keep 611 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: them separate, cause the argument that you have with your wife, 612 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: cause the failure of a class in school, cause your anxiety, 613 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: your depression. He can bring those things. He can also 614 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 1: bring accidents, car accidents, slip and falls, and people are like, 615 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: I got up and lo and behold, well, here's this 616 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: guy in a hat just standing there, and yeah, did 617 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 1: he trip someone? I wouldn't put it past him. He's 618 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 1: capable of a lot of things. So you know, Nate, 619 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: you questioned if this was hat Man, and maybe because 620 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: he didn't have fear. That's another thing I get from people. 621 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: They're like, well, he didn't scare me, so was it 622 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: hat Man? I wasn't scared. Well I don't always get 623 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: scared with these things either, Okay, but if it looks 624 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: like the guy, I'd say it's hat Man. He doesn't 625 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:45,359 Speaker 1: always boil people over and fear. I don't know why 626 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 1: that is sometimes for others, and the other people are like, 627 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: oh my, this is really through the roof of fear. 628 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: But sometimes it's like he was intending for someone else 629 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 1: walking through the neighborhood and people caught a glimpse. That 630 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,240 Speaker 1: happens quite a bit. This one with Nate seemed really 631 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 1: particular since he was four ft from you, so I 632 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: would have to wonder why he was there. Is it 633 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: always important to know? No, sorry, as he hasn't come back. 634 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: If he was a repeat offender in your personal space, okay, 635 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: then i'd have a problem. But it sounds like this 636 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: happened ten years ago and you're fine right now, but 637 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: you're curious if that was a hat Man situation. And 638 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 1: I would say it was definitely sounded like him, look 639 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 1: like him, and it didn't quite necessarily feel like him, 640 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: which is fine again, that's all right, But yeah, so 641 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: hat Man, he could come in different shapes and forms. 642 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 1: He's not always six ft tall. I've heard of twelve 643 00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: ft tall. Yeah, overly tall. Sometimes when he comes into 644 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: a room he has to crouch down with his back 645 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 1: touching the ceiling of a bedroom. Can you imagine that 646 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 1: the ceiling. Other times he's as tall as the trees outside, 647 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: and that I've heard of, and being about six ft tall, 648 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: that's about the shortest I see or here. But he 649 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: also as often the only hat Man. A lot of 650 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,879 Speaker 1: people ask me, is there more than one? Well, I've 651 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 1: heard a couple of people say, oh, I saw several 652 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 1: of them in one room, but that is so less likely, 653 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 1: so less likely. And the other thing like can he 654 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: be and more than one place at a time. I'm like, well, 655 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 1: if he has the polar opposite of what is good, 656 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,439 Speaker 1: God could be in more than one place at once, right, 657 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 1: And if he's deposite force, I would say, yeah, he 658 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: could do that. Another important element to know about hat 659 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 1: Man when it comes to shadow people. He seems to 660 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 1: be the director of the shadow people. And it's not 661 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,760 Speaker 1: just the shadow people, but it's also this grim reaper 662 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: looking guy and the old Hag and aliens. But what 663 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 1: what I know? It sounds crazy, it sounds complicated, but 664 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:39,280 Speaker 1: it happens people have seen hat Man alongside of all 665 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:44,479 Speaker 1: of those things. So what exactly is hat Man? How 666 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 1: is this all possible? As we journey forward and I 667 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: share more of the emails that come into me, you 668 00:52:54,640 --> 00:53:01,879 Speaker 1: will see patterns that are absolutely clear, and then sometimes not. 669 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: He switches it up and then he goes right back. 670 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: It depends on who you're talking to. It depends on 671 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 1: the stories that I get, but ultimately there are answers. 672 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 1: There are ways to keep this negative force out of 673 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,399 Speaker 1: your life, and if it's in there, how to kick 674 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:28,400 Speaker 1: him out. On the next episode, we will journey along 675 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,320 Speaker 1: with a group of friends who stumbled upon hat Man 676 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: in a very strange location. So be sure to join 677 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: me then and send in your stories through my main 678 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: website at Heidi Hollis dot com. You have been listening 679 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: to the Darker Side of Life with me, Heidi Hollis 680 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio at Coast to Coast and 681 00:53:51,440 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. We'll see you next time. Yeah, Well, 682 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: if you like this episode of the Darker Side of Life, 683 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 1: wait till you hear the next one. Thank you for 684 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 685 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 1: a m Paranormal podcast Network. H