1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Thursday, 4 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: January eleventh. Wow. Wow, Wow, You're gonna love today's podcast. 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: Holy cow, are you gonna love it? So locked in 6 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah, the great NFL analyst and draft guru. And 7 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: as we're recording with him on Wednesday afternoon, my phone 8 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: starts blowing up. Usually I don't look at my phone 9 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: during interviews, but it just kept buzzy, and I'm like, 10 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: all right, let me look. And Nick Saban has retired 11 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: and I had to get in a question to the 12 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: end of the Jeremiah interview, and you'll hear it here shortly, 13 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: but it it's always fun to hear initial, fun, first reactions, 14 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: and you'll get that from Daniel. Also a lot of 15 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: NFL draft stuff. Listen, Jets fans, you know, ear Muffett 16 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: not great news otherwise, you know, teams draft in the 17 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: top five six. Jeremiah loves the top of this draft 18 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: and everybody does. Really, I just had dropped my mock 19 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: draft for Fox Sports, so I asked him about some 20 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: of those picks. Before we get to Daniel Jeremiah just 21 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: to quickly a few words on Nick Saban, kind of 22 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: the end of an era. It's just a college sports 23 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: is going through this weird moment. There's all this realignment happening. 24 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: College basketball in the span of what like two or 25 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: three years, lost coach k Jay Wright, Royd Williams, and 26 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: now literally what feels like the span of a week, 27 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: college football is losing Jim Harball, likely to the NFL. 28 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: And Nick Saban, who has basically been the Bill Belichick 29 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: of college football for two decades. I didn't realize the dominance. 30 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: Like we know, he won seven Natties, but six of 31 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: them came in a seventeen year run. That's amazing. Six 32 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: titles in seventeen years. And I know he flopped in 33 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: the NFL in two years with the Dolphins. They picked 34 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: Culpepper over Drew Brees or who what might have been 35 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: for Nick Saban in the NFL. Blah blah blah. You 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: can go down that path. But it's a weird moment 37 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: for college football. I'm gonna go ahead and guess that 38 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 2: this will be the narrative that comes out surrounding Saban's departure. Listen, man, 39 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: I'm all about team. That's what I'm about. That's what 40 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: I've always been about. That's what my dad taught me 41 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: since he was my coach. Just me pretend to be 42 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: Saban in West Virginia. I'm about the team and hard 43 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: work and all that fun old school those values. And 44 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: the new era is all about nil money and the 45 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: individual and this twelve team playoff and the constant recruiting 46 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: and the transfer portal. Like the recruiting's out of control. 47 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: You gotta once you lock up guys, now you need 48 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: to keep recruiting them so they don't leave just because 49 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: they're not playing a ton. You know, it's it's insane 50 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: happening in college football. And again I'm not pooh poohing 51 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: what's happening in college football because it's kind of sort 52 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: of like good for the players. I'm happy for them. 53 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 2: I don't love people, you know, leaving at the drop 54 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: of a hat and bouncing around to three different colleges 55 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: in five years. I mean, that's that can't be great. 56 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: But as long as he's guts getting the free education 57 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: they're getting to play college football, it's pretty awesome. Because 58 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: let's be real, ninety percent of college football players maybe 59 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: higher they're not going to get to the NFL. This 60 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: is their moment in the sun, and you know then 61 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: they got to go get a real job or you know, 62 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: work in football in some capacity. But Saban bounces. He 63 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: leaves behind a pretty incredible legacy at Bamah. He wanted LSU. 64 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: His coaching tree is unsurpassed in college football. Many think 65 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: that somebody from that coaching tree will get the job. 66 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: The early names appear to be Dan Lanning at Oregon, 67 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: but he's got a twenty million dollar buyout. I personally 68 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: don't see it. I don't see it being Landing. Landing, 69 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: by the way, just landed Dylan Gabriel, the fantastic quarterback 70 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: from Oklahoma. Gabriel's on his third school now, and I mean, 71 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: I don't see Landing leaving now that somebody. Some might 72 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: say that's short sighted. He could dominate. I do believe 73 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: Dabo Sweeney will be in the mix. Obviously, he's a 74 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: guy who played at Alabama and close ties to the school. 75 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: Brian Dable was in Nick Saban's coaching tree. Sark obviously, 76 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher and they might doubt we'll hear connected with Alabama, 77 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 2: but who knows. Who knows Mark D'Antonio, Lane Kiffen, Mario Cristobal. 78 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 2: I mean, everybody who's a good coach in college football 79 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: has basically been in some way or shape or form 80 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 2: connected to Lank Sorry, Nick Saban. And I think one 81 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: of the most I'll give you my favorite Saban quote 82 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: because I was going through them. I'll give you that 83 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: in a second. But one of my favorite things about 84 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: him was that he kind of looked out for guys, 85 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: guys who were down on their luck, who maybe had 86 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: some issues on or off the field. He would take 87 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: them in, help them resuscitate their career, and they then 88 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: go back on to coach places. It's pretty cool he's 89 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: looking out for guys. And I think the other aspect 90 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: of Saban that I really love is his ability to 91 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: be flexible because he's been a you know, longtime defensive guy, 92 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: and he realized, I just this college football offense is 93 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: moving at a pace I can't keep up with. I'm 94 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: falling behind. Let me just hand over the offensive reins 95 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: to people who know offense. And he, you know, it 96 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: takes a lot to admit that, like, listen, this is out, 97 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: this is not my forte. I'm going to hand it over, Sark. 98 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: Here you go, Lane Kiffin, do your thing on offense, 99 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: and that really propelled the dynasty. The ability to change 100 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: and pivot. And I've talked about like reinvention many times 101 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: and how it happens in music and movies, it happens 102 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: in sports. It's not as often, but it does happen. 103 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: And Saban's ability to do that impressive and would help 104 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: with his longevity. Here's my favorite Nick Saban quote that 105 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: we'll get to Daniel Jeremiah. Mediocre people hate high achievers, 106 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: and high achievers hate mediocre people. 107 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: That's good. 108 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: I like to think I'm a high achiever. I like 109 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: to think that you can't always say that you are 110 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: all the time. But anyway, if you listen to the podcast, 111 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: do you know me by now? 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I know what sports fans want. 137 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 2: But for everything he doesn't, he knows a guy who does. 138 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: Let's just say, I know a guy who knows a 139 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: guy who knows another guy. Boy, do we have a 140 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: special guest today? My main man, Daniel Jeremiah NFL Network 141 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: calls games for the Chargers NFL draft guru. He is 142 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: a do it all. What is up, Dan? 143 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: What's going on? Dude? It's good to see man. 144 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a while. I mean, I figured i'd 145 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: see at the super Bowl, but then I thought, you 146 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: know what, the draft is gonna be real exciting this year. 147 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: Let me try to get him before his calendar fills up. 148 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 2: How's the new year treating you? Regular season over? You 149 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: got time with your family? 150 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, No, it's it's just a bunch of this 151 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: It's like, hold on, let me see. It's just like 152 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of this stuff. It's just just just watching 153 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: tape and taking notes down, Bud. That's that's my life now. 154 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: Very exciting stuff. 155 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 156 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but before we came, before we started recording today, 157 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 2: Pete Carroll, I don't know, how are they calling it 158 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: like a conscious uncoupling with the Seattle Seahawks. I'm not 159 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how they're referring to it. It sounded 160 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 2: like he wanted to come back, and now he's getting 161 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: kicked upstairs. What were your initial thoughts? 162 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: Shocker, well, shocked, Yeah, because of the way Pete came 163 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: out so strongly and said I want to be back. 164 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: And I thought, okay, with what he's done there, you know, 165 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: if he's going to come out that strong, then he's 166 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: clearly going to be coming back. I think, you know, 167 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: he's in that type of a position there after all 168 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: those years, they're in the success that they've had, and 169 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: I thought maybe those discussions would have taken place if 170 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: he was going to leave. And I really thought timing wise, 171 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: this kind of made sense. I thought, man, they don't 172 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I could see Pete maybe saying, okay, 173 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: my age, where this team is. It probably let me 174 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: just kind of right off into the sunset and and 175 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: kind of voluntarily walk away. But man, he went out 176 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: of his way and did it in a classy way, 177 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: but went out of his way to let everybody know 178 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: he wanted to be back. This was not his choice, 179 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: this was not his call. And then sel you know, 180 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: upstairs decided they wanted to move on. So I guess 181 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: surprised that the way that it happened. But if you'd 182 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: ask me two weeks ago, would Pete Carroll would that 183 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: time come to an I thought, okay, I could see that. 184 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 2: Him and the GM and worked together forever? Have they not? 185 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: John Snyder? Yeah, they've been like this. But I don't 186 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: know if this is so much John, if it's ownership, 187 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: you know what the deal is there. John's significantly younger. 188 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, they've they've been very close, and I think, 189 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how this all transpired at 190 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: the end, but I would be surprised, if, you know, 191 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: if they didn't remain close, because they've man, they've been 192 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: They've been inseparable for so long. Yeah. 193 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: The early speculation was Dan Quinn kind of a safe move. 194 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: They know him, He got looks as the head coach 195 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 2: the last couple off seasons. Their defense couldn't stop a 196 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: nosebleed this year despite having a lot of good talent. 197 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: I guess the question is, do you think that Pete 198 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: Carroll looks for another gig? Some are speculating the Chargers, 199 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: you know, culture builder. I find that hard to believe 200 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: your thoughts on Quinn and then Carol and the Chargers. 201 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: Well, I love Pete and you know, if that line 202 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: is true about age is just a number, then you 203 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: could make the case because of what he's accomplished culture changing. Obviously, 204 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: there would be a very popular move in southern California. 205 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: As you know, he's very revered down here for what 206 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: he accomplished at USC. It just seems to me, you know, 207 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: seven two years old a Chargers team, it feels like 208 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: they kind of want to you know, they kind of 209 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: want to have their guy they can build with and 210 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: grow with for a while. Especially when you look across 211 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: town and you see the youngest head coach in the 212 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: National Football League, who's arguably the best coach in the 213 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: National Football League with the Rams. You know, I would 214 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: think you'd want somebody that can be around and build 215 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: for a while as justin Herbert's really just now getting 216 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: ready to enter into his prime. Yeah. 217 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: By the way, Charger Search, you know you're connected to 218 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: the team, so I'm not going to grill you about it, 219 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 2: but that, obviously, Jim Harball would be a massive coup. 220 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: I guess, you know, when you look at the Charge 221 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: they've got Herbert. But a lot of people are saying 222 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: Washington might be a better job, they have cap space, 223 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: they got the number two pick. He could be close 224 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: to his brother in Baltimore. I get all that, and 225 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: you know he'd have high profile games with Dallas and 226 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: you know Thanksgiving and of course the Eagles and the rivalries. 227 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: I just think the Chargers, will Herbert come on, this 228 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: is a slam dunk for Harbaugh. 229 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: No, this is going to be a terrible analogy. It 230 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: just came to me, So don't hold this against me. 231 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: But it would be like a skydiver. If you go 232 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: into a skydiving shop and they tell you we've got 233 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: the best shoes, We've got the best suit, We've got 234 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: the best goggles. That's great. Who's got the parachute? Because 235 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback is the parachute. That's what I care about 236 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: when I'm getting ready to jump out of an airplane. 237 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: I can deal with some different some maybe some knockoff shoes, 238 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: maybe the goggles aren't quite Kareem worthy. I'd be okay 239 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: with that. 240 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, certainly, I think that that's a pretty good analogy. Actually, 241 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 2: but hey, he may have a he may be hard 242 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: up for certain Drake may or Jayden Daniels. We'll get 243 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 2: to the draft. In one second, I just want to 244 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: ask one question wild Card weekend, CJ. Stroud. It's shocking 245 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: what he's done this year. I don't think anybody had 246 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: him doing anything close to this. And the Houston Texan 247 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: social media is like ripping media people for saying Stroud 248 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: can't do anything. But like a year ago, everybody seem 249 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: to think Bryce Young number one news Shroud is just 250 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: Act two, the L two test, all that stuff, you know, 251 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: looking back your thoughts on just Young season and then strouds. 252 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they weren't even close. The only thing I 253 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: would say, and I always I've learned to have a 254 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: little thick skin as you go through life, you know, 255 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: so you don't let it people get after how could 256 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: you have this guy over that? Gay? And all that 257 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But the one thought that goes through 258 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: my mind is you should have to go take a 259 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: picture of your team's draft board before you make fun 260 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: of the media for who, for who they had ranked 261 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: over who, Because so many times, I mean, and I'm 262 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: not saying this specifically about Houston, but there's so many 263 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: times where I know how teams had players and how 264 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: bummed they were when the player they wanted went and 265 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: then they ended up getting the Hall of Fame player 266 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: who was actually their second choice. So it's anyways, it's 267 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: a hard, it's a hard. It's not a science, let's 268 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: put it that way. But let's start with Bryce. Bryce 269 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: went into a rough situation. I thought that they off 270 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: the wins they had the year before, after the draft 271 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: of that man, maybe they could be a double digit 272 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: win team here. You know, they've they've I think they 273 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: won seven or eight games the year before. Sam Donald 274 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: reeled off a bunch of wins towards the end of 275 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: the year there in Carolina, But I did not appreciate 276 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: fully the impact of DJ Moore not being there, having 277 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: him involved in that trade was brutal. They had They 278 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: had no true weapons there. The offensive line completely regressed. 279 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: Ikeyakwano had a rough year there at left tackle. He 280 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: did not get better. And then I almost think you 281 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: had so many cooks in the kitchens, you know. 282 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: It was. 283 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: It was billed as we have all these former quarterbacks, 284 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: this is a good thing, and as somebody who played 285 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: it at a much lower level, I don't know that 286 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: all those different voices and strong opinions about footwork and 287 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: about this that or the other. I think it was 288 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: too much. And I just even from simple things of 289 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: how how he's set up as a thrower. So most throwers, 290 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: you're always gonna you know, it's kind of like old school, right, 291 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: you kind of got your shoulder to the target, your 292 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: your shoulders are kind of square towards the sideline you 293 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: step and throw. Bryce Young was a fake thrower. So 294 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: in other words, his his he's parallel to the line 295 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, and that's how he threw, That's how he 296 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: was comfortable throwing. He was very he's very affective with that. 297 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: Obviously went in one a Heisman Trophy at all of 298 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: success in Alabama. That changed, like they they kind of 299 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: changed his footwork around and you start messing with that 300 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: kind of stuff with the quarterback. I thought he looked uncomfortable. 301 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: But if we talk about the three p's jay with 302 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, play colors, playmakers, and pass protection, they're zero 303 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: for three with what they gave him there in Carolina, 304 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: and he and he looked small and he did not 305 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: play well. So in other words, could it have gone worse? 306 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: No, But there's rue, it's not like he's done. Nobody 307 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: is saying you can't say he's a bust. He just 308 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: had a rough row. 309 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: There's some people that are trying to, uh, you know, 310 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: raise that flag and wave it that did you know 311 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: that never bought in on him because of the size, 312 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: and they're saying, look, you know you've seen it. Now, 313 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: look how little he is. He can't play in this league. 314 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here going no. I think some of 315 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: the similar things were said in about Tua and it was, hey, 316 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: you have to build a team a certain way for 317 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: Tua and you've seen to have some success. Now there's 318 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of a limitation there, but there's a 319 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: way you've got to do it around him. He's gonna 320 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: need a little bit of room. Bryce Young's not gonna 321 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: be able to throw out of a well where he 322 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: can't step into throws and those types of things. But yeah, 323 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: he's got he's he's still got a chance to be 324 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: successful in this league. But they have got to get 325 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: to work and they don't have a first round pick. 326 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, not great. And then for Stroud essentially DJ, you 327 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: know people are now saying like I would take Stroud 328 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: over Trevor Lawrence. You know, one year of games for Stroud. 329 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: Oh he's better Lawrence, And I don't know, it just 330 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: feels a little overblown. He's been great, no doubt about it. 331 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: But I don't know, are people going overboard here or no? 332 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: If you watch both of those players play this year, 333 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: you would take Stroud over Lawrence all day, every day 334 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: based off what we mean, just the recency bias and 335 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: what's all we have to go off of. With CJ. Stroud, 336 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: I don't see anything fluky from him in other words, 337 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: like I don't see some guy who's just he's just 338 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: running around and kind of like helter skelter. And this 339 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: is feet in the ground, one, two, three, bang, accurate throw, 340 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: this is drive throws, this is layer throws, this is 341 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: over the top throws making others around him better. That's 342 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: not supposed to happen with a rookie. It's it's just 343 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: not And you know, I look, I knew he was 344 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: a gift to throw. I said at the Combine it 345 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: was the best throwing session that I've ever seen at 346 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: the Combine, not because of sheer power velocity, because he 347 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: made every single throw effortless, feet in the ground, perfectly balanced, 348 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: textbook release, the ball spinning. If you got a loft, 349 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: if you need loft on the throw, beautiful. If you 350 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: need to drive the throw, he could do it over 351 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: the top down the field. It was just a pristine workout. 352 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: I just didn't think that, you know, we saw some 353 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: of the playmaking stuff take place in the Georgia game. 354 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: I didn't know how, you know, how explosive he was 355 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: or dynamic he was going to be, And I thought, man, 356 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: that's kind of where the league's going a little bit. 357 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: Can can he play that way at the next level. 358 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 1: Turns out, A he's more explosive than I gave him 359 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: credit for. And B it should take you three to 360 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: four years to acquire the knowledge to play that fast. 361 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: He did it year one. Give him all the credit 362 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: in the world. I thought was incredible. 363 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's dovetail perfectly into the twenty twenty 364 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 2: four quarterbacks. It's been crazy. I remember texting you, I 365 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: think like two months ago when JJ McCarthy had a 366 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: nice little run. Yeah, but McCarthy could be the third quarterback, 367 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: and you were like, well, maybe he's in the mix, 368 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: you know, And the third quarterback is a tough one. 369 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 2: Everybody has Drake Caleb one and Drake two. Right, I mean, 370 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: I listen. I know you haven't done all the evaluation, 371 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 2: but at this stage early January got Jane Daniels, Pennox, 372 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: bo Nicks. I suppose McCarthy. I don't know if he's 373 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: officially announced, but everybody knows he's going pro. Where are 374 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: you on the third quarterback in this draft? 375 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: More work to do I've been doing. It's funny like 376 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: today is actually been a Caleb Williams day for me. 377 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: So I'm going back through and watching, you know, a 378 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: lot more stuff. I watched some early stuff. I did 379 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: all this stuff at the end of the year. I 380 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: always try and save quarterbacks mostly for the end of 381 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: my initial process here because I want to be fresh, 382 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: fresh in my mind, so I can start there and 383 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: we'll get to the third one. But you talk about gifted, 384 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: I mean, and I know, like you can look at 385 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: the turnover worthy plays, and you can look at hero 386 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: ball that he tried to do too much, you know, 387 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: playing for Tina, had no defense and no offensive line 388 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: and they're getting home with Russian three guys. He was 389 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: loose with the ball. He's you know, got it in 390 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: one hand, and he got some fumbles and fourth picks. 391 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: But Jay like him throwing the ball like man. It 392 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: jumps out of his hand and he can hang on 393 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: his back leg. He doesn't have to transfer his weight. 394 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: If you looked at you know, the the clock he 395 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: can throw from from every hour on the dial, it 396 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: seems like it's unbelievable. The arm angles he can. He 397 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: can manipulate and throw the ball. So he's he's to me, 398 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: he's just he's a gifted, gifted dude. You've got Drake 399 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: there next to's all the prototypical stuff. Jaden Daniels to me, 400 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: feels like the third quarterback. I have done little on him. 401 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: I've seen I went and did the LSU receivers so gosh, 402 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: I saw a zillion touchdowns watching that. 403 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: Those clips a lot of bad competition. 404 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: I should a oh yeah, but no, he's gifted. I'm 405 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: anxious to see how big he is. I've heard conflicting things. 406 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: I think he was listed at two ten. I know 407 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: that somebody else tell me there's no way he's two 408 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: hundred and ten pounds something but lower like the Arizona State. 409 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: There were people told you he was really light like, 410 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: way below that. So I'm just curious to see how 411 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: how big is I haven't seen him in person, so 412 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. But he would be the 413 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: leader in the clubhouse to me as the three. I 414 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: really like bo Nicks as well. You know, I know 415 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna see him at the Senior but I want 416 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: to see how strong his arm is. But accuracy, you know, 417 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: being able to get through progressions quickly. And there's a 418 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: lot of quick hitters in that offense, but you see 419 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 1: him get through progressions. He can, he can move around. 420 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: I like the fact he's been through some adversity with 421 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: the time at Auburn and came through that. He started 422 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: sixty one games. I know, is that insane he's does 423 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: He starts a senior boy to be technically a sixty 424 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: second start, so he's in that. He's in that mix. 425 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. I just haven't seen it yet, so I'll 426 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: watch all the late stuff. I've watched the early stuff. 427 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: I know he's you know, he's got a pretty live arm. 428 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: He's a good athlete. They don't ask a whole heck 429 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: a lot of him. Yeah, I mean, I don't know 430 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: if he's doing for two hundred yards much in the 431 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: last six games. I mean, yes, it's hard. It's a 432 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: hard He's going to be a hard evaluation if he 433 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: does end up declaring. 434 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 2: Football is back. No more preseason games. The regular season 435 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: is here. 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Didn't know where it was coming from. 453 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: Under pressure. I mean, Michigan was getting home with four 454 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: against six and seven blockers, like it was crazy, how 455 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: good their pass rush was. I don't know, Penex is tough. 456 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 2: My hot take is Miami goes after Penix to replace Tua, 457 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: and they, you know, move on from Tua and then Pennis, 458 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: a bigger version of Tua at like six ' three, 459 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: can hit those deep throws to the outside that Tua 460 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: has kind of struggled with. That's too probably incendiary for you, right, yeah, 461 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 2: you would be probably. 462 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: I like panics. I think Penix has got has got 463 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: a chance to be a starter and be a quality player. 464 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: The one concern I have and uh and I will 465 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: go through the rest of this tape is watching that 466 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: game of the night. He couldn't layer the ball, so 467 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: everything was firm and flat, and you know, you talk 468 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: about throwing seams like he threw against Texas, and it's like, whoa, 469 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: that ball jumps out of his hand right on you. 470 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: Over the top deep throws. He throws a beautiful deep ball, 471 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: but in that game, throws that were required were the 472 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: up and down throws to be able to get it 473 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: up over that first level, down below that third level, 474 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: and he couldn't he couldn't control it, couldn't touch it. 475 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: So that to me is a little bit of a 476 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: concern more than anything else, is just going to be 477 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: the medical you know, where that where that falls out. 478 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: There's some teams that you know, have said, look, that's 479 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: not even gonna be our decision. It's going to be 480 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: our medical staff when it comes down to it. But 481 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't see that as a as a 482 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: great fit really for Miami where they are there, They've built, 483 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: they've they've kind of paid themselves into a corner because 484 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: they've constructed the entire team for Tua, like how they play, 485 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: the speed that they have, requiring quick, quick processing, getting 486 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: the ball out, slant slant slant like that's that's who 487 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: Tua is and they've put that whole thing together for him. 488 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't ideally built to play in Kansas City and 489 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: sub zero weather, I can tell you that much. But 490 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: I don't see Pennix as that they're left handed. To me, 491 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: that's where the similarity. 492 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: Is nothing After that interesting, I'm curious where you are. 493 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: Like usually edge Rusher's vault to the top of the draft. 494 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: I did my mock for Fox. I think the first 495 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 2: seven players were offensive, and I haven't really looked at 496 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 2: the other mock drafts yet today, but it just doesn't 497 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: seem like a great phenomenal defensive draft. Or is that 498 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: just the way the league is trending? Where listen, no 499 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: matter how good the defense is, as we's on the 500 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, great offense is gonna be great defense. 501 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: No. To me, it's what the supply is and that 502 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: it varies year to year. This year, it's just it's 503 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: an offensive year. You know. I like Jared Verst a 504 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: lot still from Florida State. I feel like some reason 505 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,239 Speaker 1: he's kind of fallen off the radar a little bit, 506 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: but I still think he's gonna, you know, he's gonna 507 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: chance to be a top fifteen pick. You know, Dallas 508 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: Turner didn't really do anything in the in the playoff game. 509 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: A little disappointed with that, but still he's a talented player. 510 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: The end from UCLA lat who's is got ability. We'll 511 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: see him at the Senior Bowl. But to me, the 512 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: defensive in this draft, I love Terry and Arnold. If 513 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna say what defensive player goes in the top ten, 514 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: Terry Arnold would be my pick, he's the best corner 515 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: in the draft. He's big, he's physical, he's got ball skills, 516 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: he's got production, he's supposed to be a great kid, 517 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: characterize all that stuff. And corners are premium. So I 518 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: think I think we see a corner go before a 519 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: pass rusher in this draft. 520 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: That's now, that's a real hot take. But here's my thing. 521 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: If you look at recently, I mean since a Kutera, 522 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: really it looks like teams are just maybe the corners 523 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: aren't there, but they're not taking them as high as 524 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 2: they used to. I know, obviously Stingley went high, up 525 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 2: and down, Starry. 526 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: Stingley sauce Certan, you had the kid in Carolina. Oh gosh, 527 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: why am I blanking on him? It was the top ten. 528 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 2: Horn horn Horn. 529 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: So they're they're they're they're just a matter of if 530 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: they're worthy of it. Right, Okay, if you're talking about 531 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: the how to frame this draft, you are going to 532 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: see quarterbacks galore early, you are going to see receivers 533 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: and you're gonna the offensive tackles. That's the strength of 534 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: this draft. And and they're offensive tackles. They're a boatload 535 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: of them. So like a team for example, like the Jets. 536 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let's go there. 537 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: You're going to what are you picking ten? Right? Yeah, 538 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: there's gonna be there's going to be a tackle at 539 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: ten that's infinitely better than anybody that you're playing with. 540 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's going to be a major upgrade there. 541 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: Well here's the problem. So, okay, let's Chargers at five. 542 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: You know, I don't. They don't need a left tackle, 543 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: but they could. 544 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: Look, they're going to have the We're gonna have the 545 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: Bengals discussion with them, the difference. Remember the Bengals pennae 546 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: seele versus Jamar Chase. Yeah, the member the memes, Oh 547 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: if you don't have the offensive tackle, what does it 548 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: matter if you have a great receiver. Well, they draft 549 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: through the receiver and he took him strength to the 550 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: super Bowl. 551 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 2: That's a good point. So, but but do you think 552 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 2: Neighbors or Rome is there? 553 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: I love a dund I love him, my favorite player 554 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: in the draft, favorite favorite player in the draft. I guess, hey, 555 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: but he's going to be in my top five and 556 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: he is everything, he does everything. 557 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: Well. 558 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: I gave him the same grade I gave Marvin Harrison junior. 559 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: So everybody's like it's oh, you know Marvin Harrison, and 560 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: then you know, then you're just left with the rest. 561 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I think he's he does some things 562 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: better than Marvin does, and Marvin's a special, elite talent. 563 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: But if I'm the Chargers and I'm sitting there at five, 564 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: and I've got a chance to draft a right tackle 565 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: who will be an upgrade over Trey Pipkins for sure, 566 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: But I can line up and play with Trey Pipkins. 567 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: I've got win healthy. He wasn't this year. I've got 568 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: an all pro left tackle. Yeah, and you might lose both. 569 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: They could lose both Mike and Keenan in the off 570 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: season because of the salary cap situation. Yeah, a Doonday 571 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: to me is not a consolation price. 572 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: Okay, so Giants at six, one of the worst offensive 573 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 2: lines in the league. They're almost certainly to unless they 574 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 2: go quarterback in surprise the people. I don't know. 575 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to me, they would be the dance 576 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: partner if somehow Chicago would shock me if they did. 577 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: But if they decided to stick with Justin and they 578 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: wanted to trade down the Giants, I could see a 579 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: very aggressive dance partner if they want to go up 580 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: there and get a quarterback. But I don't. I don't 581 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: see that happening. So if they stand pat and where 582 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: they are in the issues that they've had with Evan 583 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: Neil at tackle, they could come right or wrong there 584 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: and they could get a much better player. 585 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 2: So it's funny you say Giants dayboll and Caleb Williams 586 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 2: would be nasty. The Bears fired Luke Getzy and you know, listen, 587 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 2: it's not really out there, but surely people are going 588 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: to talk about it. Well, you know, they checked in 589 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: with Caleb and he's not that interested in Luke Getzy's offense. 590 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: I don't know, is that the kind of thing you know? 591 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: You think, I don't think so. I don't think that 592 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: would happen. I don't think he would wield that type 593 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: of power. I mean, at the end of the day, 594 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams gets picked, He's going there like he's not 595 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: going to be able to fight his way out. That's 596 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: not happening. So the organization has got to decide. They 597 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: have to decide is it Fields or you know, Caleb, 598 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: and then they have to decide who they want to 599 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: put around them to help them be successful. So it's 600 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: going to be a fun one. 601 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: The other team looking at a tackle ahead of the 602 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: Jets is Tennessee Daniel. You know, like they had. 603 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: I saw that offensive lineup closing personal horrendous. 604 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: Now they got a lot of flux with Rabel getting canned, 605 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: which was a shocking. Will Levis at quarterback. I don't know. 606 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: I'm assuming tackle, but you possibly Giants Titans go tackle. 607 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: I'm assuming Falcons. 608 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: Will go for a quarter draft the defensive player. 609 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 2: Now they only take offensive guys in the first round. 610 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts and Vjon Yeah, yeah, Bears. I had them 611 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: going a Doonesday at nine, but it's like. 612 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: Nine that is your stealing if he gets to nine. 613 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: That's why I'm telling you that. I think that, like 614 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: Terry and Arnold is a name. I would just file 615 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: that one, Okay, all right? 616 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 617 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: I said it last year with Witherspoon. I came out 618 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: in a mock draft and had Witherspoon going in the 619 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: top ten. Everybody thought he was a little corner. He's 620 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: going to go into the twenties. There's no chance. 621 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: Where do you end up? 622 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: Was he the fifth pick? 623 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: It's almost like you knew something, all right, Brock Bowers. 624 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: Does he get by the Jets the tight end from George. 625 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: I love I love him, I love him. It's just 626 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to get by the narrative of 627 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: top ten tight ends not moving the needle, and the 628 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: ability to find tight ends in the in Day two 629 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: especially has been a sweet spot of finding really good 630 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: tight ends. So he's gonna have he's gonna have to 631 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna have that to work against. But to me, 632 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be one of those guys who's 633 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: gonna grade wise be all the way up there. But 634 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: then teams are gonna have to decide, Okay, if I'm 635 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: gonna take if I need a tackle, uh tackle and 636 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: a tight end, what is the difference in the tackle 637 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: I get in the second round versus the tight end 638 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: I get in the second round. In other words, I 639 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: think you could say the tackle is a premium, and 640 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: this year we have more than most years. But they're 641 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: all gonna go. The top six or seven are gonna 642 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: go in the first round, so the tackles are gonna 643 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: be available there in the second round. There's a steep 644 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: drop off, whereas tight ends even and not you know, 645 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: not a great tight end here you can say, Okay, 646 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: we can still get a starting caliber tight end in 647 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: the second third round. You can do it every year. 648 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: You know. 649 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: I'm into the team building stuff. We we own this 650 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: soccer team in Mexico, minority ownership, and just the off 651 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: season is fascinating. How they want to build a team, 652 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: what numbers they look at. So I saw an interesting 653 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: thing the Ravens did Daniel how they've now valued linebacker 654 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,479 Speaker 2: in safety Kyle Hamilton and then the linebacker. 655 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: The Rowan Smith and Patrick Queen. Yeah. 656 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so those are two positions that have been kind 657 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: of sort of devalued. It's do you have an ed rusher? 658 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: Do you have a cornerback? What's happening with McDonald in 659 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: that defense? I mean, they they've been tremendous this year. 660 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: I saw McDonald's getting head coaching interviews. 661 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I've been kind of pushing this narrative too for 662 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: a while because there's there's teams out there that just 663 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: don't value that position. They either won't draft them high 664 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: or they won't resign them once they've they've had success. 665 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: And the two exceptions to that is not just them, 666 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: It's not just Baltimore, it's San Francisco. The two teams 667 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: with one seeds have built their teams up the middle. 668 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: You look at Fred Warner and paying him and taking 669 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: care of him, Drake Greenlaw though it wasn't a high pick, 670 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: take care of him. Like they they are really really 671 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: good up the middle as well. Hafunga has been a 672 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: has been a great player for them. But to me, 673 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: if you're talking about the team building aspect of it, Jay, 674 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: it's it's the Baltimore Ravens having worked there. Everybody gives 675 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: lip service to it. It is best player available. It's not, well, 676 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, we have two tackles, so why do we 677 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: need Jonathan Ogden. Well, let's play Jonathan Ogden at guard 678 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: for a year if we have to. He's the best 679 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: player on the board. It's having you know, you look 680 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: at the tight ends that they've picked. They've they i 681 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: think three times now they've taken two tight ends in 682 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: the same draft, and all three times the second one 683 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: has been the elite player. But they don't. They don't. 684 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: So many of these teams like we're so close minded 685 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: and like we need a corner, we're taking a corner. Well, 686 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: you're taking a six. Like on a grading scale, a 687 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: six foot a six point four grade corner. You're taking 688 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: him over a six point nine grade middle linebacker. Like, 689 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: there's an elite player. Just take the elite players. Eventually 690 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: you have so many elite players you win games, like 691 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: you figure the rest of it out. 692 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: I like that. All right, we can wrap up here, Daniel, 693 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: I just get my phones blown up. I don't know 694 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: if you're seeing it, but uh, what happened. It looks 695 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: like Nick Saban is retiring according to ESPN. Uh, you're nodding. 696 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: I'm assuming you've heard this. 697 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: Well, I was talking to somebody about this, that this 698 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: was what I heard over the weekend, and I asked 699 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: somebody in Alabama about it, and he said he was 700 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: alerted to be Uh, he was told to be on 701 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: alert for the next two days that something could go 702 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: down in the next two days. So that's yeah, there 703 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: you go. 704 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: That's that window. That's a pretty big shocker, I would say, 705 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: so the. 706 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: Question, let's do this real quick? Not we weren't planning 707 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: on doing this because I was talking to him, and 708 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: I said, Dan Lanning, by the way, I don't know 709 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: that I would. I mean, it's the best job in 710 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: college football, but you're following that guy. I mean don't 711 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: want to. 712 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: It's like Belichick when he leaves, you don't want to 713 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: be the guy. Like Vrabel doesn't want to follow Belichick. 714 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,239 Speaker 2: So damn Land is it? What's the connection with Dan Lanning? Uh? 715 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: In Saban or Alabama? 716 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: Well, it's just kind of I think he was under 717 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: he was under Kirby obviously, and Kirby has the Alabama tized. 718 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: I want to Saint Landing was at Alabama for a 719 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: moment as well, But he's kind of viewed as somebody 720 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: who's come through the Saban Kirby Tree, who's the young one, 721 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: who's the you know, he's kind of been He's like 722 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: the the chosen one here now Oregon, he's done a 723 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: nice job of getting them. 724 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 2: You know, just get that quarterback Gabriel. Didn't he just 725 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 2: get the star quarterback. 726 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: Gabriel from Oklahoma? Yeah, he came in there. That would 727 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: suck for that kid, huh Yeah. 728 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: Well, I guess you could back out right or no, 729 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 2: or I don't know. 730 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what the rules are anymore, man, are there. 731 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: Maybe there are no now that listen, that's a tough 732 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 2: one for college football. So they go to the twelve 733 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: team playoff and now hardball is gonna leave, we all think. 734 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: And Nick Saban's out. That's kind of a big blow 735 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 2: to the sport. Like I thought, Ryan Day, I don't 736 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 2: know if you know him, what I thought somebody would 737 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: kick the tires on him this offseason, like he's maybe 738 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 2: sick of a crap at Ohio State. 739 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think if he'd have won that game, he 740 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: would have he would have, you know, catapulted off to 741 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: the next level. You know, he'd been mishi and put 742 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: that to bed. I think he would have had that 743 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: is a launching pad. You're right, man, Holy caw, Like 744 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: my feet is just wow, wow wow wow. So yeah, 745 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: so I asked, by the way that you are somehow 746 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: up on the news and not so infatuated with our conversation. 747 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: Well, I am, but then my phone just keeps buzzing, 748 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: so I had to pick it up, and look, I 749 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 2: just want to ask the team building stuff. Obviously you're 750 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: gonna get calls, hey man, can you come interview blah 751 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 2: blah blah, Like obviously you have a great life out 752 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: here on the West Coast and great jobs plural because 753 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 2: in the media you got to have more than one 754 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: where are you on that mindset? Like, do you still 755 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: like maybe or are you ready to uproot your family 756 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 2: and go wherever I have. 757 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: My youngest son is sophomore in high school, so he's 758 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: got two more years, and I feel like I've been 759 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: afforded the luxury of having some perspective in life, and uh, 760 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: and that's that's more precious to me. So two more 761 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: years and I don't know, I don't I don't know 762 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: if that ever happens. I love what I do, and 763 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: you know, my dad told me a long time ago 764 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: some good advice and he just said, you know what, 765 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: I don't ever leave happy trying to find happier. And 766 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's a good point. Pretty happy right now. 767 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: I've got a nice balance. I enjoy what I do. 768 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: I love what I do, uh, in the various jobs 769 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: that I have. But uh, you know, I don't ever 770 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: fully Everybody says the same thing, right, you don't ever 771 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: fully close the door. You don't know whatever opportunities are 772 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: going to come your way. But no, I'm I'm not 773 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: actively out there pursuing that. 774 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was pretty happy in Pennsylvania and then Fox 775 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 2: came knocking, and I was like, oh, but my kids 776 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 2: were you very very young. Ye now out here where. 777 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: Your kids are a different place, that that changes because 778 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: it's not just again, it's not just our happiness you got, 779 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: you got your family. That the effects into. 780 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: A lot of people, all right, man, Hey, thanks for 781 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: taking the time and good luck on the Nick Sabans 782 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 2: stories this week. 783 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: That yeah, thanks, here we go, let's go see buddy.