1 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Boom have no fear of the Iron rap Wort stereo 2 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: podcast is here. Biginni Boom have no fear of the 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: I Am Rapports stereo podcast is here. 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: You need joy, We need joy. We bring the joy. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: The Young Shooter, Dino Casino, Deuce Collins, Dino Paccino is 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: back on the Iron rap Ports stereo podcast. We're getting 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: a review of the Oasis concert he attended in Los Angeles. 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: Plus we are fawning. Both of us are fawning, going crazy. 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: We loved, loved, loved, loved, couldn't love it anymore. The 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: Charlie Sheen documentary on Netflix. We're talking about that and 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: so much more on a high flying, fully joyous, but 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: still disruptive Iron Rapports stereo podcasts coming up right now. 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Miles Jordan Ak The Bleach, the Brothers AKA that does Brothers. 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Start this puppy off with something real loud. Start this 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: puppy off with something real nice, but most of it 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: starts this puppy off with something real funk. This is 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: the Raport stereo pockets need. Let's go. Baby Boom have 18 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: no fear of the Iron Rapport serial podcasts here beginning 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: Boom have no fear. The I Am Rapports stereo podcast 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: is in the place to beat. Welcome to the Iron 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: Dome of Disruption. Welcome to the Dignity Zone of Disruption. 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: The name is Michael Rapport aka the Inflamed Ashkenazi aka 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: the Sultan of Sniffs aka the Gringo man Dingo. We 24 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: wanted to bring some joy to the world. We want 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: to bring some positivy to the podcast. There's no better 26 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: way to do that. He's been doing it time after 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: time after time. You know where I'm going. He's back. 28 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Dino Paccino, Dino Casino, Deuce Cuddles aka the Young Shooter. 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: Dean Collins is with me on the Iron Rapport Stereo podcasts. 30 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: Boom, thank you man. Quite the intro there. I love 31 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: the Joy to the World. Like when you said that, 32 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: I was like, can we play the Joy to the 33 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: World song like Joy to the Like? It made me 34 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: feel so warm inside. 35 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: We could sing it, Jiggity Joy to the way, the 36 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: jiggity Joy. 37 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: I'm back on the pod. It feels good man. We 38 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: both were both rocking. You got your New York Cat, 39 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: I got my La hat. 40 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: You got your You got your La hat. I got 41 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: my New York Cat. I got my invisile lines in. See. 42 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: Yep, those are those puppies straighters since the last time 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: I saw you. 44 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: No, my teeth aren't it any straighter yet. It's only 45 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: been a couple of weeks. I think it's been two 46 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: weeks since I've had these puppies in, but the visile 47 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: lines are in there. I'm speaking well, and uh, we're 48 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: happy to have you back on the podcast. It's been 49 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 1: a crazy, crazy two weeks since you are away from us. 50 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: We know that you have explored a bunch of things 51 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to that. We're also gonna get 52 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: to a lot about me because it's not the Dio Paccino. 53 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: And it's this is your podcast. It's not like you're 54 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: interviewing silvae Us Stallone. And so we've talked about I mean, 55 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 2: and not that I even look at myself that way, 56 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: but you're absolutely right. So you know, I would love 57 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: to do kind of like a we don't have to 58 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: do this podcast, but just sort of like a James 59 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: Lipton style interview with you in your career and and 60 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm happy to do that too. 61 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: Great and we want to keep it really positive for 62 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: this podcast. It's been a crazy time, and I'm bringing 63 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: the positivity, and you know that's why we have you. 64 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: Go, because I, yeah, I want to keep it positive. Also, 65 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: I'm feeling really positive today, and I could see it 66 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: in your eyes that you're positive, but I'm not. You're 67 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: not always positive, see that. 68 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: That's the kind of thing. When I'm bringing positive and 69 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: you're bringing that negative, I'll I won't tolerate it even 70 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: though I'm bringing positivity. Like, slap me one, shame on me, 71 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: slap me a crossed my face again. I'm not going 72 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: to be positive anymore, asshole. That's pretty much my saying. 73 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: I just I just made that up. But it's like, 74 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: you're not gonna fuck me once. Uh and then go, oh, I'm. 75 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: Not gonna fuck you at all. I'm not gonna fuck 76 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: you at all, is what I'm not gonna do. But 77 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: doesn't a positive and a negative make a positive? 78 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that. 79 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that's no. 80 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: Maybe you just continue to be positive when I say 81 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be positive. You don't antagonize, you don't poke 82 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: the bear, you don't throw things in the monkey cage. 83 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: It says the science says, don't throw anything into the 84 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: monkey cage. So what you're doing is you're throwing things 85 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: into the monkey cage and you're not respecting the sign. 86 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: The sign says do not throw anything into the lion cage. 87 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 2: Are you a monkey in this situation? Key, and I'm 88 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: the lion. I'm all of it. 89 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: If you throw things into the monkey cage, if you 90 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: throw things into the lion cage, you might incite something 91 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: from that animal. So what you're doing is you're like, 92 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're tossing in there? What what 93 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: are you tossing in there? Dean? 94 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: I'm not saying I don't want to ruffle the feathers. 95 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: I don't want to fuck up the monkey cage or 96 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: whatever the fuck is all these things that you're talking about. 97 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: Let's just keep it positive. We're both feeling great. 98 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 1: Okay, let's keep it positive. But I'm listening, and even 99 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 1: though sometimes it seems like I'm not listening, I am listening. 100 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: Downloading processing at all rapid speed. So if you come 101 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: at me with any shit, I'm gonna come back with 102 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: more shit. If you throw shit, I throw bigger balls 103 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: a shit. 104 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 2: I don't want any problems. 105 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: Are you sure? 106 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm good, you know keep it moving. We'll keep 107 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: it moving and keep it positive and optimistic today. 108 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: And you got your batteries. Because I don't want to 109 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: I don't want to go into what happened in the 110 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: last podcast, but let's fill the people in because there 111 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: was so much behind the scenes drama with the last 112 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: episode that you were on, and it was it turned 113 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: out to be a great episode, but you didn't have 114 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: batteries in your recorder. And people from all over the world, 115 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: they always say to me, Mike Crap, I want to 116 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 1: start a podcast. Do you have any advice, Mike Wrap. 117 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: If I'm starting a podcast, you have any advice? And 118 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: I go Rule number one, two and three is you 119 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: need to press record. You need to have everything recorded. 120 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: If you don't have anything recorded, it doesn't matter what 121 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: you're saying. It doesn't matter how funny you are, how smart, 122 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: how insightful you may be. And on the last episode 123 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: of the Iron Wrap, poor Stereoparks, we were blessed with 124 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: the presence of Dino Paccino. 125 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: You didn't have you didn't have. I didn't have batteries, 126 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: And I'm the first to admit it. I fucked up. 127 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: But you know what, I went to CVS this morning, 128 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: and those fuckers are on a lock. Yeah, I got 129 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: to ring the customer service button. They're walking through. I 130 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: got the big pack, so we're in business. You got 131 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: nothing to worry about. 132 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: Great. So I'm saying, okay, great because what we went 133 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: through last time put me, put the Dust Brothers through 134 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: a lot, put yourself through the anxiety. 135 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: I need it, and I like to apologe. I'll take 136 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: the time to apologize to the Dust Brothers. To you, 137 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: I know you have, you know, your valuable time. I 138 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: don't want to waste that. And it was something that 139 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 2: was going on through my head the next few days 140 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: after that. It really fucked my head up. And I'm 141 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: glad that we just got to move past it, but 142 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: somehow we're rehashing it. 143 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: My question is how many batteries did you buy? Because 144 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: there's the four pack, there's a twelve pack, and I suggest. 145 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: Any four pack. 146 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: Baby. 147 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: Don't want any issues moving forward for the future of podcasting. 148 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: I want to I want to be set. I want 149 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: to just go, oh fuck, I'm running low here. Let 150 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: me go to the cabinet. I know I have it 151 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: all right. 152 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: That being said, before we get to my thoughts, your 153 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: thoughts on the Charlie Sheen documentary aka Charlie Sheen, which 154 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: is incredible. I wanted to ask you your review. You 155 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: were so excited last time you were on the podcast 156 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: you were going to the Oasis concert. I told you 157 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: I did not know much about Oasis. I knew their legacy, 158 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: I knew they didn't get along. You were pumped. How 159 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: was the Oasis concert? What is your review of finally 160 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: seeing them after all the drama, all cancel shows and 161 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: all the bad blood all these years. 162 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: Look, I grew up on Oasis. I grew up on 163 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: that the album you know, what's the story Morning Glory? 164 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: And definitely maybe like most people, and you know, because 165 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: I'm British that like when I went to London, my 166 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: cousins introduced them to me, and so they were kind 167 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: of the one band that I'd never gotten to see. 168 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: And I know they broke up like fifteen years ago. Whatever. 169 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: The show was amazing. The crowd was not so amazing. 170 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: It was at the Rose Bowl, was totally sold out. 171 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: They they killed it. And I mean, even if you 172 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: don't like their music, Liam and Noel Gallagher as brothers 173 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: and just how their dynamic is so fucking crazy to watch, 174 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: and he and Liam especially is so funny. But the 175 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: show itself was so good, and it was great that 176 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: they put their shit behind them. Obviously they had to 177 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: because they probably got paid a fortune. 178 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: But why do you say it wasn't that good. 179 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just like it's just it was 180 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: on some la shit Like it just felt like I 181 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: was I actually bought a ticket by myself and I 182 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 2: sat with like four random people. We didn't I mean, 183 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 2: everyone was standing, but I was armed arms singing. H 184 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: I think they played like twenty five songs maybe, and 185 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: I knew every lyric to every single song and we're 186 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: just singing our hearts out. But everyone around us was 187 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: just like kind of standing, wasn't really like vibing with it. 188 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: And then the second they get to the encore and 189 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: like Wonderwall comes on, every phone in the audience is up. 190 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: So it kind of felt like fifty percent die hard 191 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: Oasis fans and then fifty percent like fucking TikTokers waiting 192 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: for the Wonderwall song to come. But I saw, you know, 193 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: Paul McCartney, Leonardo DiCaprio, everyone was there. I saw Leo 194 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: was filmed fucking leaving before the encore. I just I 195 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: just don't understand it. It's like, why even show up? 196 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: But they killed it And if people listening are there's 197 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: some like huge Oasis fans. I highly recommend watching the 198 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: documentary about the two brothers and their rise to fame 199 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: and their beef and all this shit called Supersonic, which 200 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: is excellent, great doc. But I feel like you would 201 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: fuck with Liam especially. I mean, have you seen clips 202 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: of him like he's I've seen clips. 203 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna check out the doc. Where can you watch 204 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: the doc? 205 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 2: I don't know where you can watch the doc. I 206 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: have no idea, but just just uh, it's a. 207 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: Proper documentary though it's about like their friction and stuff. 208 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, in theaters, it's it's it was in theaters, but 209 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: it's if you're remotely a fan, it's great. So I 210 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 2: highly recommend that. 211 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I love music docs about even groups 212 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: that I don't even you know, like is you know? 213 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean like I'm not a Metallica fan. I'm not 214 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: a Metallica hater, but that documentary about Metallica is excellent. 215 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: The other doc, oh man, what's the name of that group? 216 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: We were watching? It all the time. When we were 217 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: doing the Tribe Coal question what you saw in Black 218 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: and White Man? The name of that band. 219 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: Solo the fucking Chili Peppers doc not that's excellent too, 220 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: the Funky Monks black and White one. 221 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: But no, no, no, no, it's man. My mom loves this 222 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: group whatever I mean, you know, like I love you. 223 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: Even the Taylor Swift documentary, like I was like, you know, 224 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: I love the process of watching artists. Even we talked 225 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: about the Billy Joel documentary, how dope that was, and 226 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm not like a Billy. 227 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: Joel had same same with me. Now, I'm I'm agreed. 228 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: I'm agreeing with you. That was funny because we both 229 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: are not big Billy Joel fans. But the power of 230 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: documentary filmmaking, right, Because I don't know why you paused 231 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: when I said same, because I was in Finnish and 232 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: you said same with me. I was just I was 233 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: agreeing because I totally agree, but yeah, continue when. 234 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking same with me, it kind of just throws 235 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: me off there, and and that's why I'm sorry about that, 236 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: are you Now, I'll just shut up. I just want 237 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: to do a nice fun out of the floor I'll no, 238 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: he keeps interrupting me. Is what it is? I keep 239 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: getting interrunt. 240 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 2: I'm not Yeah, I won't do that again. I'll just 241 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: I'll let you have the floor and then you can 242 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: point at me whenever I should come in if you 243 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: want to do that, or I'll just let you finish 244 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: the thought. 245 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: But I was. 246 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: What you go ahead? You were what? 247 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: No, No, you were what? 248 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: I I can't remember. 249 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: Podcast we're talking about documentaries. The Charlie Sheen documentary a 250 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: k a. Charlie Sheen on Netflix is hashtag two winning 251 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: thumbs up. Yeah, it's I like that excellent. I can't 252 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: recommend it any high or give it more praise. It's 253 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: well done, it's honest, it's scary, it's entertaining, its heartbreaking, 254 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: it's insightful. It's an excellent three hour documentary. It's two parts, 255 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: it's an hour and a half each. And I don't 256 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: think people really truly understand unless you've made a documentary. 257 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: This is one of these cases where unless you've made 258 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: a documentary, people don't really get how challenging they can 259 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: be on all aspects, whether it's the subject, whether it's 260 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: getting along with your subject, whether it's archival footage, the 261 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: editing process, the storytelling, all of it, and this documentary. 262 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's an hour of stories and footage that 263 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: they cut out, at least from him because Charlie Sheen somehow, 264 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: some way. I mean, one of the most impressive things 265 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: about this documentary is that he's still standing. I mean, 266 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: the fucking guy's alive. He's truly a miracle that when 267 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: he talks about all the things he was doing with 268 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: the drugs and the sex and the HIV and the 269 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: drugs and the drugs and the drugs and the drugs 270 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: and the drugs, that he's able to even articulate and 271 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: remember in such great detail his life because the guy 272 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: has been through the ringer. Did you watch the two episodes, 273 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: Dino Paccino. 274 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I didn't watch them back to back, 275 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: but I saw part one immediately was like, this is 276 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: fucking amazing. I mean, it's I'm assuming that a lot 277 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: of the people listening by now have seen the docs, 278 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: so hopefully, you know, we'll dive into it and they 279 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: know what we're talking about. But like, immediately the plane 280 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: story of him with the captain and taking a photo 281 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: and can I sit in your seat, and now he's 282 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: flying the fucking plane wasted with four hundred people sleeping 283 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: behind him, and he's maneuvering it and then they're not 284 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: on autopilot. I mean, it's like this shit is crazy. 285 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: But I thought that was a perfect way to set 286 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: up the rest of the documentary. And I mean, just 287 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: an insane fucking life, and I mean it gives you 288 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: anxiety watching it. 289 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: Totally, like totally, and the plane story is awesome, and 290 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: we are giving spoiler alerts, but nothing we can do 291 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: will be as entertaining and as enthralling and as charismatic 292 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: as Charlie Sheen telling his own story. So we could 293 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: give you spoiler alert after spoiler alert, we're not gonna 294 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: be able to ruin it because Charlie Sheen, again, despite 295 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: everything that he's been through, is still incredibly charismatic and sharp, 296 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: and he's I don't know how he doesn't have wet brain. 297 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how he's not completely deteriorated. 298 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: He still looks good and he sounds good, and I mean, 299 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: you're right. He tells a story about being on a 300 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: passenger plane. Obviously he's sitting in first class. I believe 301 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: he was flying to France or Japan, and he was 302 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: out of his mind, and the pilot asked him to 303 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: come into the cockpit, and you know, one thing leads 304 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: to an another. Then at one point he's literally flying 305 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: the plane and he's drunk out of his mind. And 306 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: the first person you see, which is unusual in a 307 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: documentary about somebody else's where you hear from another person. 308 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: And this documentary has so many great people Sean Penn. 309 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: And when Sean Penn is talking about you like you're 310 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: out of your mind, you know you're way out of 311 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: your mind. Because Sean Penn, love or hate him, has 312 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: been through it. Sean Penn has seen it all. He's 313 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: been through it all. You know, he's tried, true and proven. 314 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: But when Sean Penn is sort of bowing down, like, yo, 315 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: this guy's way far out. When Nicholas Cage is saying 316 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: you're way far out. When slashed from guns n' roses 317 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: is your last line of defense, and slash from guns 318 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: and roses in the nineties, it's like, yo, bro, I 319 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: can't mess with you. You know your way the fuck out there. 320 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: But all that being said, and there's so many great 321 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: guests and stories in this documentary. The first voice you 322 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: hear from is is three and a half Men co 323 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: star John Cryer, and I think it was so smart 324 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 1: to have John Cryer in the beginning talking about his 325 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: confliction about being a part of the film and not 326 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: being a part of the film, and he his concern 327 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: with the fact that this documentary and where Charlie is 328 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: at as of the documentary, I believe he's eight years 329 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: sober and he's somehow some way alive, dealing with the 330 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: HIV and all the drugs. But he talks about his 331 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: personal concerns that this is going to get him back 332 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: on the straight and narrow. And historically, when Charlie Sheen 333 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: is back on the straight and narrow, somehow, some way, 334 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: he's self sabotages. But he decided to do it. And obviously, 335 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: you know his brother Emilio Estevez, which people forget Emelio 336 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: Estevez is his brother, and Charlie Martin Sheen is his dad. 337 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: And Martin Sheen was a humongous, humongous star in the 338 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: seventies and the eighties. Martin Sheen was the star of 339 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: Apocalypse Now so many other films. He also Charlie Sheen 340 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 1: had access to an eight millimeter camera and he documented 341 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: him and his brothers would make movies. And that's just 342 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: such a such a gift when you're making a documentary film. Again, 343 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: like if you've never made a documentary film, it's so 344 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: fricking hard. Like trib Call Question. I was doing the 345 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: Tribe movie. A lot of the footage and photographs and 346 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: archives got burned in a fire in Q Tip's house, 347 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: So you know that that was like a big thing 348 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: for him obviously personally, but you know, as far as 349 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: documenting and archiving his life, so much of it was lost. 350 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: So it's just a credible that Charlie Sheen, you know, 351 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: and his brothers were shooting this home footage and you're 352 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: seeing Martin Sheen, you're seeing Sean Penn. They were shooting 353 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: home videos with George. 354 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: No idea about that that Sean like how far back 355 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 2: him and Sean Penn went from, like those super eight movies. 356 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: And that adds such a fucking cool element to the documentary. 357 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 2: And I also just thought, like the parallels of him 358 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: and his father and their choices of film like Apocalypse 359 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 2: Now and Platoon, and I thought just using all of 360 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: like the parallels of Charlie Sheen's movies to his real 361 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: life and like using the films throughout and like intercutting 362 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: them with the movies, and also like sports being a 363 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: huge part of it. Like the Michael Jordan stuff was 364 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: so crazy. 365 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: Did you know that Michael Jordan's story. 366 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: No, I never seen idea. 367 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: I never seen that footage. I never heard that of 368 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: those stories. Like and I've watched old Michael Jordan doctument. 369 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: I've never seen him and his dad And this is 370 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan had to be after his rookieyear because he 371 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: had all his hair, because like his first year is 372 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: the only year he had all his hair, so it 373 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: had to be after his rookie year. You never saw 374 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: this footage. There was like some charity, some like weird 375 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: ABC Sports show nineteen eighty seven was it eighty seven? 376 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, nineteen eighty seven for a three part basketball contest, 377 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: Oh my, and like Martin Sheen making the fucking basket 378 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: like half court and and Charlie Sheen being like there 379 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: was something in the universe like higher than us, like 380 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: a higher power that day. And I mean you watch 381 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: it and you're like, yeah, I mean it really seems 382 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 2: like that. I mean it was I just I loved, 383 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 2: I loved that shit. 384 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: Martin Sheen and Charlie Sheen beat Michael Jordan in a 385 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: two on one. Now, obviously, Michael Jordan, he could score 386 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: ten straight points on two people like Martin Sheen and 387 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 1: Charlie Sheen. But somehow, some way, he underestimated that Tiger 388 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: blood and that Sheen blood lineage, and they beat him 389 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: in a two on one, which I guarantee you Michael 390 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: Jordan if he sees this documentaries to be like, I 391 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: let those motherfuckers beat me and this was videotape. 392 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: He's that competitive. 393 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: But that was just the beginning of the beginning of 394 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: story after story after crazy story after crazy story, and 395 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: his Ferris Bueller. I forgot that he was in Ferris Bueller. 396 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: His story about being in Ferris Bueller and not even 397 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: being on this, but just the self sabotaging and just 398 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: the bad luck, how his one day to shoot his 399 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: one scene on Ferris Bueller, how he overslept when Jennifer Gray, 400 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: the actress, went out of her way to get him 401 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: in the film. I mean, you're just like, first of all, 402 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: how do you remember this after everything you've been through? 403 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: And secondly, just like this guy's he's just crazy, and 404 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 1: we forget how big of a star he was, but 405 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: when you see him on camera, he just has that shit. 406 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: He just has this magical thing, this charisma, these eyes, 407 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: that star making quality. And when you're watching the young 408 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: footage and the home footage, you're just like boom, you 409 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: see it. And he was handsome and he talks about 410 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: he I love when he talked about you know, out 411 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: of all the reviews for Ferris Bueller, at the one 412 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: review at the very end, he goes and Charlie Sheen 413 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: is smoldering, Oh yeah, and he remembers that review and like, 414 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: you know what that you know different, but I understand, like, 415 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, that's like, yo, I could really do this, 416 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: like because he didn't know what the fuck he was 417 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: gonna be. And then he did some low en you know, 418 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: b movie that I never heard of, and then his 419 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: next role at twenty is Platoon, which wins Best Pictures. 420 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: Fucking crazy. I mean, that's such an iconic movie. But yeah, 421 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: you forget like all the movies this guy did. Now, 422 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: I think they should have focused more. They did on 423 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: part one, but they should have focused more on his filmography. 424 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 2: And like, I mean, he just he was a part 425 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: of some fucking great, great films and. 426 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: Major League was a humongous hit. 427 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't. They didn't even talk about major League. 428 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: They don't think. 429 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't think they mentioned it. They showed clips a 430 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: couple of times, but I don't think the word major 431 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: League came up. And also the other film, the other 432 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: baseball film that he was in, I mean, and Walshit, 433 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they dipped into it a little bit. He 434 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: talks about what he was making Platoon, how he signed 435 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: a contract for Oliver Stone on a napkin to do 436 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: Wall Street while he was making Platoon, which is just 437 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: so nineteen eighties you would never get away we're doing. 438 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: That's like some sugar night shit. That's like like, oh yeah, 439 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: we signed him to death Row Records on a napkin 440 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: while he was making Platoon. And just the stories about 441 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: Nick Cage and the partying and the girls, and when 442 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: he got he got offered or he not offered. He 443 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: auditioned to be in the Karate Kid and because he 444 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: had committed it was crazy crazy. 445 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: Like Martin she you could tell he had some animosity 446 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: towards his father about that, with Martin Sheen being like 447 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: you gave this other production your word, like that's gonna 448 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 2: take you far in Hollywood, you can't do that, and 449 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: you got to turn it down, And you could tell 450 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: he had a lot of regret, but at the same time, like, 451 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 2: look at you know, Ralph Macchio. It's like he didn't 452 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 2: have those opportunities that Charlie Sheen had with the amazing 453 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: roles that he selected, but he would have been super 454 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: fucking rich. But at the same time, it's like then 455 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: he did Two and a Half Men and became the 456 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: wealthiest like TV star, like no one had ever had 457 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: a contract, getting two million dollars an episode. And that 458 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: was the other thing with John Cryer where it was 459 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: like it was interesting to see his perspective. I think 460 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: he compared him to Kim Jong Ill or something, or 461 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: like the set yeah, but he was also like yeah, 462 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 2: but he was also like, I got a third of 463 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: what Charlie Sheen made on Two and a half Men. 464 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: You could tell he's very bitter about it, but it's 465 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 2: also like, dude, people weren't tuning in to watch John 466 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 2: Cryer like they it was Charlie Sheen's show. He was 467 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: the famous guy everyone wanted to see Charlie Sheen. So 468 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: that's how it works. I mean, it's like, you know, 469 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: we were talking about that. It's like Leonardo DiCaprio is 470 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 2: going to get the twenty million dollar paycheck versus whoever 471 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: else is in this new movie that he's doing. But 472 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: it's like you're selling the movie. 473 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: Period and the great I mean, one of the great 474 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: actors of our time, Benisiel del Toro. He's not gonna 475 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: get as much as Leonardo DiCaprio, nor would he think 476 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: or expect to get as much as Leonardo DiCaprio because 477 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio is like it's like Lebron James Steph Curry, 478 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: like he's gonna make more money. It doesn't. There's not 479 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: no equal pay, equal rights or all that stuff. It's business. 480 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: I just thought it was It was awesome. I thought 481 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: it was great, and we can't recommend that documentary any 482 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: any higher. I mean, Denise Richards is so transferred. I 483 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: mean the documentary spans his entire fucking life. It's crazy. 484 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: I thought Denise was Denise seemed like she was on 485 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 2: fucking drugs. To me, she seemed like she was on 486 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: drug other allegedly. I'm not That's why I said, she 487 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: seemed like it I'm not putting it out there. But 488 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: at the same time, his his other ex wife seemed 489 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: like she was taking a little something. But part one 490 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: was excellent, Part two was great. But when you get 491 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 2: to the fucking winning segment, I was watching that, like, 492 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: I mean, it was just so exploitive at the time, 493 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: and like how the media ran with that and just 494 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: his all the people around I mean, he didn't have 495 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: anybody good around him. I mean, yeah, there was the 496 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 2: black guy, Tony Todd, who was you know, like one 497 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: of his childhood friends or whatever, who all, you know, 498 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 2: he was there during all that stuff, but no, you know, 499 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: and it was sad. It was sad to see Charlie 500 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: she and be like, I wish someone during that time 501 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: was kind of like, hey man, don't do this, like 502 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: this is fuck. But instead you had all these leeches, 503 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 2: I mean even Chuck Lorie where they were all like, 504 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: you know, I suppressed all this shit, but it was 505 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: kind of like we were just moving forward and people 506 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: encouraging doing this war, you know, world tour, and I 507 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 2: mean the guy was you know, I was young when 508 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: that came out. I was twenty or twenty one. But 509 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 2: you look back on it and it's just like, it 510 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: is funny to see like the shit that he was saying, 511 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's dark. It's really dark 512 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: and really sad, and the guy was on so many 513 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: drugs and they just you know, he was like a 514 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: fucking monkey. He was like a circus monkey to these people. 515 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: But it felt like watching a movie. I was like, 516 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 2: oh my god, this is like this is like a movie, 517 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: Like this is crazy that. It just was crazy. 518 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: It was crazy. And also it was crazy because at 519 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: the time, the social media wasn't what it is today. 520 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: So when Charlie Sheen was doing these interviews, he was 521 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: doing interviews on ABC or NBC and then he's doing 522 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: some interview with Alex Jilons, Like it wasn't like now 523 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: where you could pick up your phone and go online Twitter. 524 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't even on Twitter at the time, and you know, 525 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: like that was sort of the last sort of line 526 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: of TV viralbility, like he went viral, you know, on television, 527 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: and it was It was just crazy. And obviously I 528 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: don't think anybody knew the extent of the drug use. 529 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: You knew something was going on, you couldn't tell he 530 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: was drunk or high or whatever. You knew he was, 531 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: but but it was. 532 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 2: But the thing that I didn't realize now watching it 533 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, he I mean, clearly anyone with the 534 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: fucking mind would could see that this guy is like 535 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: on serious drugs. That wasn't just his wacky personality. Like 536 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 2: you watch that now you're like, this guy is on 537 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: like fucking crack or meth or something. But the thing 538 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: that I didn't realize was the testosterone. Right that were 539 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: and they said, you know, because I got my testosterone 540 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 2: levels checked recently, and you know, high is seven hundred 541 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: or whatever, right, like it's some zero to seven hundred 542 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: and and like seven eight hundred is high testosterone and 543 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 2: you don't want to go past that. He was taking 544 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: that testosterone where he said he was in like five 545 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 2: thousand range or whatever. So he just had that like 546 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: fucking primal like rage. I don't know what was going on, 547 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: but I mean, he was on all sorts of shit, 548 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: but he was surprised that like adults weren't like, dude, 549 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: you need to get help. I mean, even Todd Phillips. 550 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 2: It was like watching Todd Phillips be like you know, 551 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: they were all encouraging it. They were all like really 552 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 2: encouraging it, and it was it was sad. It was 553 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 2: sad to watch, and you could tell he's like, I 554 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 2: can't watch it. It's excruciating. I mean, oh my god, 555 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 2: I just can't imagine. I mean, I just can't imagine 556 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: how embarrassing that would be. Then, yeah, I mean he's 557 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: been through the Ringer podcast question. 558 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: Because I have my answer because I thought about this 559 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: this morning. If another person, because the Sevessa still Own 560 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: documentary on Netflix awesome, the Arnold Schwarzenegger documentary on Netflix, 561 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: it was awesome, The Martha Stewart documentary on Netflix rate awesome. 562 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: If you were gonna pick, or you thought another person 563 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: that can make another compelling two camera confessional this is 564 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: My Life documentary, who would you choose? I have an answer. 565 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: Fuck, that's a really good question. 566 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: I don't. 567 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, the first person that comes to my 568 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: head after watching this documentary and just kind of what 569 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: an enigma he is is Nicholas Cage. I would love 570 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: to see the Nick Cage doc I would love I mean, 571 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: it's still too early. I think the guy he's still 572 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: in it. I mean he's still making incredible choices, and 573 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: he's had this resurgence. You know, there was a period 574 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: of time where he was kind of the butt of 575 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: the joke with like his choices and just you know, 576 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: doing terrible movies for paychecks. But he's making some really 577 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: interesting choices and still killing it. So I would eventually 578 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: like to see the Nicholas Cage documentary Who do You 579 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 2: Have in your Mind? 580 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: I would love to see on Netflix the Bobby Brown documentary, 581 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: the Faoby the fact that Bobby Bobby Brown? What did 582 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: you say? 583 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna probably get crucified here. But who's 584 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: Bobby Brown? Is that? Is that relation to James Brown? 585 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: Is that James Brown's brother? Who is Bobby Brown? That 586 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 2: could be the title of the Netflix documentary. For people 587 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: like me, we don't know who is Bobby Brown. It's 588 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: like searching for sugarman. 589 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: I gotta blame myself at this certain point. I gotta 590 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: blame myself at a certain point because at a certain point, 591 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: I gotta go, well, you brought him on the podcast, 592 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: so it's I gotta say I can't blame him. I 593 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: gotta blame myself because I'm the one who brought him on. 594 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: Is a generational thing. No, it's not a generational thing. 595 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna post this on Instagram with you saying 596 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: who is Bobby Brown? 597 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: The only stupid questions are the ones that you don't ask. 598 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. I'm talking to a 599 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: man who, in twenty twenty five still refuses to watch Rocky. 600 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 2: That's why I'm talking. I saw it, You did it? 601 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: You didn't you? Si cream? 602 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: Fuck her? 603 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: You still haven't seen Rocky? 604 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: What the fucking man? What Adrian? I remember? Adrian Mocker? 605 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: You didn't know sand reads a girl now, motherfucker. I 606 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: know that. It took me a long time to figure 607 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: that out, but I figured it out eventually. Fuck it's 608 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: like shit. 609 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do another pickup for this, just for my 610 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: own self. If I had my choice, if I could 611 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: direct a documentary Netflix style, face the camera with someone 612 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: telling their story, I would five hundred percent want to 613 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: direct a documentary about Bobby Brown. Bobby Brown, who of course, 614 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: is one of the founding members of New Edition. When 615 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: Solo went Crazy Crazy Crazy, Solo had crazy drug issues. Obviously, 616 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: he had his relationship with Whitney Houston, which was documented 617 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: on a reality TV show which was insane. He's been 618 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: through the ringer somehow, someway, he's still standing. And I 619 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: guarantee you a two part, three hour documentary about Bobby 620 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: Brown and Bobby Brown telling his story if you have 621 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: act to all the footage, all the music, and all 622 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: stuff will be just as compelling, if not more compelling 623 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: and crazy as the Charlie Sheen documentary. So that's the 624 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: documentary that I would love to see. And I would 625 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: highly urge Dean when we when we end this podcast 626 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: to just look up Google and just get a little bit, 627 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, information about Bobby Brown. 628 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I yeah. 629 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: It was not a generational thing. Don't blame it on it. 630 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 2: It is. No, it's not against because even new edition, Brother, 631 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: I don't I can't name one song. I know that 632 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: you were in the movie, and I think it's great 633 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: that you played the manager in the movie. I don't 634 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: know a new addition. I think that's like forties plus. 635 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: That's just me as like kind of a middle aged millennial. 636 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm not the elder millennial. But I don't think that's 637 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: really targeted towards me. Maybe it's a cultural thing. I 638 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: don't know what it is. But I don't know. 639 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: New addition, I don't know. I don't know that group. 640 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: And no disrespect to that group. I'm sure they're fantastic. 641 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: I think it's great that you were their manager. I 642 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: don't know that group. 643 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: But my question to you is, when you're watching the 644 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: Charlie Sheen doc and you're watching the Billy Joel Dock 645 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 2: and you're watching these documentaries as a documentary filmmaker, I'm director. 646 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: Good question. Just rephrase that as an award winning documentary filmmaker. 647 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 2: Sorry, yes, when you're watching these documentaries as an award 648 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 2: winning documentary filmmaker, director, yeah, are you watching it with 649 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 2: that perspective going, oh, they got the super eight footage. Oh, 650 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: they're intersplicing scenes from his filmography that kind of do 651 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: you know, call and response to his real life. That 652 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: element is so good, that's what like. Are you watching 653 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 2: that as a as a director? Are you watching that 654 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: as a fan? 655 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: Or are you I'm watching I'm one hundred percent aware 656 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: of the filmmaking of the Charlie Sheen documentary, and I 657 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: was aware of how great it was from the beginning, 658 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: and I'm conscious of all that. I'm impressed by all that. 659 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: I understand the the undertaking and the mountain that you 660 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: have to climb when you're telling a story that spans 661 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: thirty years and is so chaotic and crazy, like the 662 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: Charlie Sheen documentary. So that's a great question. It's great 663 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: that you asked me, who is an award winning a 664 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: documentary filmmaker that question, because that is the fact. Two times, 665 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: two awards. I'm two for two with the awards, two 666 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: full length films, two times I was an Emmy Awards. 667 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: Are we talking all? I know it's not the Oscars, But. 668 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: I won an Emmy Award for my thirty for thirty 669 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: When the Guard was documentary about the Knicks, When the 670 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: Guard was Eating And I won a Producer's Guild Award, 671 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: which is like this close to being an Oscar for 672 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: be Trims in Life the travels of a tribe called Quest, 673 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: and I won that award. At the night that I 674 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 1: won that award, everybody the Producer's Guild Awards are no joke. 675 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: Spielberg was there, Brad Pitt was there, they were all there. 676 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe that we won because I was 677 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: tripping because it was so hard to put together be 678 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: Trims in life. So that's why when I see this 679 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: Charlie Sheen documentary, a these great documentaries I was talking 680 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 1: about that Jerry Jones The Gambler and his Cowboys documentary 681 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: on Netflix, these are not easy things to make. So 682 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm super duper impressed as an award winning filmmaker about 683 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 1: these other potential award winning documentaries. 684 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 2: Great quest I think Beats Rhymes in Life could have 685 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 2: gone further in terms of the award circuit because that, 686 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 2: to me, that is definitely, to me, your best documentary. 687 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 2: I was fortunate enough to work on When the Garden 688 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 2: was Eden and the Juliet Lewis Hard Loving Woman documentary, 689 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 2: and I had an opportunity to work on Beats Rhymes 690 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 2: in Life when I was twenty and I had just 691 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: gotten back from a trip from Europe with my family, 692 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 2: and at the time I had a friend who was 693 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 2: pretty controlling, and I didn't really have the will to 694 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 2: kind of stand up for myself at the time to 695 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: kind of say, hey man, this is too much like 696 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 2: I'm doing me and back off a little bit. And 697 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 2: at the time I was sort of controlled at this moment, 698 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 2: and there was a moment where you had said, do 699 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 2: you want to come shoot some b roll or not 700 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 2: even bed like BCAM at this performance that they're doing 701 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: in La I don't know where it was, but Leonardo 702 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: DiCaprio was backstage. Everyone was backstage, and I had an 703 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: opportunity to shoot it and get credited on it, and 704 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 2: I flubbed it, and I kicked myself years and years 705 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: later that I missed that opportunity. So that's another lesson 706 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 2: for people who are listening. If a fucking opportunity falls 707 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 2: in your lap or someone says, hey, can you be 708 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 2: here at this time, don't overthink it. Don't like, get 709 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 2: your priorities in check, and strike while the iron's hot. 710 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 2: And because that would have been a fucking epic thing 711 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 2: to witness too, because that documentary is fantastic. And do 712 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 2: you have another documentary that's in the pipeline that you 713 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 2: want to do, because I do think that we need 714 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 2: to get you back to directing something. 715 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: Well, I am working on something. I mean in the 716 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: early stages of working on a documentary. It's too early 717 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: to announce because it's not it's not over the mountaintop yet. 718 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: But yes, I would love to make another documentary. Like 719 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: I said, I'd love to do the documentary about Bobby 720 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: Brown for Netflix. I would love that, I would do it. 721 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sniff around about that. Yeah, I mean, they're 722 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: just challenging. The one thing about documentary filming is you 723 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: can't be half into it because they're too challenging, they're 724 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: too time consuming. To be halfway into, you got to 725 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: be all the way in the deep end of the 726 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: cold water of the documentary pool that you're considering doing. Anyway, 727 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: this was a super positive Iron Rapport stereo podcast. I mean, listen, listen. 728 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: We could keep going on. But I say we get 729 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: out while the going is good. I say we get 730 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: out while everybody's still positive. I say we get out 731 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: while there's no more. Uh. You know, I don't want 732 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: to say anything, and you go, oh, I just I 733 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: want to protect me. I want to protect you, and 734 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: I want to get out of here, you know, while 735 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: we're still feeling real good, real nice, real safe and real. 736 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 2: Say, can I suggest something on the way out? Can 737 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 2: I just suggest a movie? Can I recommend a movie 738 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 2: that I watched that I just want to say this 739 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: because I haven't seen a movie. It's been months and months. 740 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 2: I have not been on my movie game. In terms 741 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 2: of theater movies, I went to go see The Naked 742 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 2: Gun with Liam Neeson. Movie was fucking hilarious. Have not 743 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 2: seen a movie like this in the past over fifteen years. 744 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 2: This movie held up to a mid two thousand's funny 745 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 2: ass comedy. I was dying of laughter. Liam Neeson killed it. 746 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 2: You know, nobody will touch what Leslie Nielsen has done 747 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 2: with those movies. Obviously one of a kind. He's incredible. 748 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 2: But if you're just looking for a laugh with all 749 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 2: the fucking shit going on in the world right now, 750 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: I highly recommend watching The Naked Gun. It is so 751 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 2: dumb but so fucking funny. 752 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: That's a great recommendation. I didn't even know you saw it. 753 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm glad you went to see it and shared. That's totally, 754 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: totally great recommendation. And everybody needs to see things that 755 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: are light and enjoy themselves right now, because, as we know, 756 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: we are in a insane time anyway. Fantastic podcast by 757 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: the Young Shooter. They call them Dino Paccino, they call 758 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: them Deuce columns. Some people call them Deuce cuddles. There's 759 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 1: a lot of nicknames. We know them as Dean Collins, 760 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: Ak and Happy twentieth anniversary on the premiere of The 761 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: War at Home. 762 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 2: This someone sent me that too. That also kind of 763 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 2: like made me feel my age where I'm like, wow, yeah, 764 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 2: you're thirty five home. Yeah, I'm thirty five, and like 765 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 2: we talk about all the time, I'm the same age 766 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 2: as when you played my father in the show and 767 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 2: twenty five years ago. Yeah, I know, I'm thirty five. 768 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 2: It's not I know you're you're pointing at me like 769 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 2: that's a bad thing. But I'm still in my prime. 770 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 2: I think there's still years left to me to do 771 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 2: some great things. And I'm excited about thirty five and 772 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm excited, but I am nervous that I'm pushing forty. 773 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 2: But yes, twenty years since The Ward Home premiered, and 774 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 2: that is a fucking that's a crazy thing. 775 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: Insane Anyway, I am rap Ports Stereo podcast. We're done. 776 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: Make sure you tell a friend to tell a frowned 777 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: about the world's most joyful, disruptive podcast, the I Am 778 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: rap Ports Stereo Podcasts, and make sure you follow us 779 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: on Instagram at I am Rapaport podcast. Miles join a, 780 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: The Bleach Brothers say Kay, The Dust Brothers take me 781 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: out it with something real nice, take me at it 782 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: with something real app but most importantly, take me out 783 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: of here with something real funk. 784 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 2: You see. 785 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 1: I am rap Port stereo podcasts. I'm out.