WEBVTT - Shark Week Special

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<v Speaker 1>Get in test with technology was tex Stuff from How

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff Work, stat com Eiser and welcome to text Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jonathan Strickland and I'm Lauren bob Obama, and today

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to celebrate and the glory that is Shark Week.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is completely our own decision that we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do a Shark Week episode because Text Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>has not done a Shark Week episode since July two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand nine, two thousand nine, shortly after podcasting was invented.

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<v Speaker 1>That was that was how were you even alive then?

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<v Speaker 1>I know? And the fact there was so little shark

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<v Speaker 1>tech back in two thousand nine that the subject we

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<v Speaker 1>chose to cover was Bruce, also known as the mechanical

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<v Speaker 1>shark that was used during the filming of Jaws, which

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<v Speaker 1>which now now that you say that, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of wish that we could go back in

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<v Speaker 1>time and make you not do that episode, because I

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<v Speaker 1>really want to do that, especially since Chris had revealed

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<v Speaker 1>that he had never seen the film Jaws. He could

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<v Speaker 1>not quote any of the movie with me. That when

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<v Speaker 1>you put it that way, it's not necessarily a bad thing, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but but I was I was about as speechless as

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<v Speaker 1>you are right now, Lauren. That's how I was. I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I could not believe it. I couldn't fathom it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's an amazing movie. Jaws, by the way, is easily

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<v Speaker 1>in my top ten films favorite films. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>just I think that movie is almost perfect, and part

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<v Speaker 1>of it is because the Shark didn't work so well.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you want to hear all about Bruce and

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<v Speaker 1>the trials and travails of the Jaws shooting schedule and

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<v Speaker 1>how that machine that didn't work so well actually made

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<v Speaker 1>the movie better, go back and listen to that podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to the Tech Stuff rss feed, search for that

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<v Speaker 1>old file and listen to That's the only one that

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<v Speaker 1>pops up so until today. So today today we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk a little bit about, um, the biotechnology that

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<v Speaker 1>sharks have inside of them right now, cyborg sharks when well,

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<v Speaker 1>actually some sharks, if you really wanted to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have a little bit of robotic components that humans have

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<v Speaker 1>put in them. But naturally, sharks senses are really cool

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't really call it technology, but some people

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<v Speaker 1>have been developing technology to counteract it in order to

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<v Speaker 1>help prevent shark attacks, which is pretty grad and some

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<v Speaker 1>people have started working on technology that would give us

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<v Speaker 1>a similar set of senses that sharks have. I'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about that, but it's it's something we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna cover in greater detail in the future episode of

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff, so we won't go too far in there.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, when you look at what sharks are able

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<v Speaker 1>to do and and how their senses work, it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like they are super natural creatures. I mean, it's because

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<v Speaker 1>they are able to sense stuff that we pathetic little

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<v Speaker 1>humans are incapable of sensing without some sort of augmentation. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why they are on the top of their

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<v Speaker 1>food chain without having fancy things like guns to help

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<v Speaker 1>them hunt. When when you hear I'm going to quote

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<v Speaker 1>Jaws again, when you hear them described as eating machines,

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<v Speaker 1>which they are called in Jaws, that's very, very true.

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<v Speaker 1>And they are really well I hesitate to use the

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<v Speaker 1>word designed, right because that that's just one sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're really well suited. How about that for eating?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're just great at hunting down and eating stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of their senses kind of pretty much tie

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<v Speaker 1>into that. You know, find food and eat it, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you see something that is bigger than you that

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<v Speaker 1>will eat you, go the other way. Those are essentially

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<v Speaker 1>the two things that guide to sharks life, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and occasionally find another shark to make little sharks. That's

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<v Speaker 1>also that's important too. But let's start with let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with talking about their ability to smell things, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those things that everyone has heard, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that have an incredible and very sensitive sense of smell. Right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>The statistic that gets are not statistic, but that little

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<v Speaker 1>factoid that gets tossed around a lot is that a

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<v Speaker 1>great white can detect a single drop of blood in

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<v Speaker 1>an Olympic sized pool. Now, rule number one, do not

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<v Speaker 1>put great whites in your Olympic size swimming pool. Do not.

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<v Speaker 1>And rule too don't bleed in it. Bad plan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that. Um. I love that, that's the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that that within an Olympic size swimming pool. Because of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing I think of is like, something, did

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<v Speaker 1>you put that shark there? It does raise James Bond?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you hang out with that James Bond villain?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't don't hang out with the James Bond villain. It

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<v Speaker 1>does make you think of some potential amazing updates to

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics. But yeah, I think that's I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the Hunger Games, not the Olympics. Could be separate, separate categories.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly be the Hunger Games for the shark anyway. But

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<v Speaker 1>so so, the way that sharks shark's sense of smell

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<v Speaker 1>works is that as as they're swimming through the water,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got two forward facing nostrils um provide for bidirectional smell.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what really blows my mind. They can actually

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<v Speaker 1>detect where a smell is coming from, right because they're

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<v Speaker 1>the nerves and their noses are so sensitive that they

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<v Speaker 1>can um calculate in their brains how how quickly a

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<v Speaker 1>smell reached one nostril versus the other, and used that

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<v Speaker 1>to decide which direction it's coming from. So it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like our sense of hearing, even though and and

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<v Speaker 1>our hearing is not that great either. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very easy to fool a human being into thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>a sound is coming from a particular direction when it's

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<v Speaker 1>really coming from another one. But in general, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a situation where you allow noises coming from one side,

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<v Speaker 1>that sound hits one side of your your you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hits one year before it hits the other, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can think, oh, that sounds coming from this direction. It's subconscious.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not you know, it's not something that you're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about the shark is. The shark isn't floating in the

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<v Speaker 1>water thinking, ah, yards away to my left is a

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<v Speaker 1>tasty morsel and I shall now go and snap up.

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<v Speaker 1>It just things turned this way. Um, so yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's these cells are incredibly sensitive and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>it can take that information into account that it has

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<v Speaker 1>hit one side before it hit the other and know

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<v Speaker 1>that this is the direction it needs to move in

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty phenomenal. Uh. Yeah, So so that's smell right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>smell um. Sound They hear incredibly well. To be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>sound travels faster and further underwater than it doesn't end right,

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<v Speaker 1>sound always you know, we talked about the speed of sound,

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<v Speaker 1>but the speed of sound depends upon the medium through

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<v Speaker 1>which it travels. So sound travels at a different speed

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<v Speaker 1>through solids than it does through uh the atmosphere or

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<v Speaker 1>through water, as it turns out. So yes, sharks are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good at hearing stuff, huh, especially things in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the low pitched sound range. Which helps with that um,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of flopping motion that anything that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be easy to catch, it's gonna make right. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>if it's an injured fish or a say fish or

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<v Speaker 1>something that that's not able to swim very effectively, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be making noises through its its motions through

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<v Speaker 1>the water that the shark can detect, even from pretty

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<v Speaker 1>far away. Uh. And in fact, sharks are able to

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<v Speaker 1>hear at a range that's I believe below human hearing levels, right. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They can hear sounds with frequencies ranging from ten hurts

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<v Speaker 1>to eight hundred hurts, and are particularly responsive to sounds

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<v Speaker 1>lower than three hurts. UM. For comparison, UH, ten hurts

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<v Speaker 1>is one point five octaves below the lowest note on

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<v Speaker 1>a piano. So so sharks could appreciate some really groovy

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<v Speaker 1>music that we just wouldn't even be able to hear,

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<v Speaker 1>would not no no register at all. We might feel it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we can. We We can only hear uh sounds ranging

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<v Speaker 1>from about twenty five hurts to a sixteen thousand, so

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<v Speaker 1>so starting at twenty so, I mean, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a good scale too, but it's just way up

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<v Speaker 1>in the other direction. I see, so our scales overlap somewhat,

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<v Speaker 1>but the extremes on either end one of us is

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<v Speaker 1>able to hear when the other one is not capable

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<v Speaker 1>of hearing them. So, if you're going to be swimming

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<v Speaker 1>in the ocean that's filled with lots of sharks, swim

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<v Speaker 1>in a high pitched way. Yeah, if you were playing

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<v Speaker 1>some sweet Mariah Carey for the shark, that shark would

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<v Speaker 1>not even notice. First of all, I take a shoe

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<v Speaker 1>with the term sweet Mariah Carey. But fair enough. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, of course we're joking, and we should also say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're talking a lot about sharks, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be talking more in the second half about the technology

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<v Speaker 1>we've developed to kind of foil the senses that sharks have.

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<v Speaker 1>But in general, remember, shark attacks very rare. These are

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<v Speaker 1>not animals that are out to get you. They actually

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot more to worry about from us than

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<v Speaker 1>we do from them, statistically speaking, right now, there of

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<v Speaker 1>course can be situations that a person is in where

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<v Speaker 1>they are more danger of a shark attack than others,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's still a rare thing. I just think it's

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<v Speaker 1>responsible to say that now all the time. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about other ways that sharks can find you and kill you.

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<v Speaker 1>What's another sense site they've got? Um? Okay, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know how cats eyes reflect light in photographs or or

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<v Speaker 1>or in the dark, if alligators or alligators. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is caused by I didn't look up the pronunciation there

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<v Speaker 1>you go, which I think is Harry Potter speak for

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<v Speaker 1>open the door. I don't. I don't think that's correct. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a little more on now you mention

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<v Speaker 1>it all right? At any rate, this is a this

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<v Speaker 1>is an organ that's located behind the retina um and

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<v Speaker 1>it's made up of reflective crystals and when so so

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<v Speaker 1>when light travels through the retina and hits them, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's reflected back out onto the retina. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is fascinating. This is the same sort of approach,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way that we are trying to mimic when

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<v Speaker 1>we create solar panels. So solar panels, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just create something that's dark that absorbs a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of light. We actually are trying to create solar panels

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<v Speaker 1>using nanostructures that reflect light back down in so it

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<v Speaker 1>absorbs as much as possible and reflects as little as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>To make the solar panel very efficient. It's the same

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<v Speaker 1>kind of concept of um, you know, having, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>a candle holder that has mirrored sides, like a lantern

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<v Speaker 1>that has mirrored sides, so that it will end up

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<v Speaker 1>producing more light for the viewer. Now, in the case

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<v Speaker 1>of sharks, what this means is the shark is able

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<v Speaker 1>to see even in really dark situations, which makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if a shark is swimming towards the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the ocean, depending upon how deep that is, there's

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<v Speaker 1>very little light there to take advantage of, and from

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<v Speaker 1>what I understand, they're able to see well I guess

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<v Speaker 1>ten times better in dim situations than a typical human

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<v Speaker 1>being would be able to, which which means that yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>never never be alone in a dark room with the sharks.

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<v Speaker 1>So alright, so dark Olympic sized swimming pools filled with

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<v Speaker 1>blood or bad places to be if there happens to

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<v Speaker 1>be a great wet shark in there. And also don't

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<v Speaker 1>make any like low booming noises tips good tipsy. Next

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<v Speaker 1>next we come to um they're superpowers, right that the

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<v Speaker 1>really cool superpowers. I'm going to save my favorite one

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<v Speaker 1>for last um and and go to the lateral line

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<v Speaker 1>and okay, this is a system of tubes that run

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<v Speaker 1>up and down a shark's body just under the skin.

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<v Speaker 1>They're lined with these little um hair like protrusions that

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<v Speaker 1>are connected to sensory cells, and so when something comes

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<v Speaker 1>near the shark, it causes the water to stir through

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<v Speaker 1>these tubes, moves the hairs, and alerts sensory cells that

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<v Speaker 1>something's going on. So this is almost like hearing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very similar to the way we hear, only this time

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of feeling motion. So it's very similar to

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<v Speaker 1>to hearing. I mean, if you look at the human ear,

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<v Speaker 1>then you'll see that when when we the way we

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<v Speaker 1>perceive sound is that we have these molecules that are

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<v Speaker 1>banging together. I mean, sound is a very physical thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Molecules bang together and it ends up impacting our ear drum,

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<v Speaker 1>which in turn moves some tiny little bones inside our

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<v Speaker 1>ear that then end up making this uh, this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a sack of fluid. Uh. Move within that are

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<v Speaker 1>these little bitty hair like structures, and when they they vibrate,

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<v Speaker 1>that sense the electrical signal that we then interpret as sound.

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<v Speaker 1>This is similar except they're not necessarily hearing it they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feeling like it's it might be it might

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit like a like a cat's whiskers

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<v Speaker 1>and in the way that yeah, you get that motion

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<v Speaker 1>or that contact, and and it's a big clue off

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<v Speaker 1>that's something something is nearby. You see. This is really

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<v Speaker 1>tricky for us to to translate into something that we

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<v Speaker 1>can identify with because this is outside of our ability.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like skin plus one. Yeah, you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>like if I'm sitting at my cubicle and Josh Creepy

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<v Speaker 1>hands Clark is walking up behind me, and I sense

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<v Speaker 1>his presence before he's able to lean over me and

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<v Speaker 1>then inhale deeply, which, by the way, she has not

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<v Speaker 1>done that for a very long time. He has not

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<v Speaker 1>done that for a very long time. Fans behind you

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<v Speaker 1>in a Gremlin mask a couple of weeks ago. That's right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>chum got a Gramlin mask. I'm not sure. I'll not

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<v Speaker 1>sure why. I have a feeling. One of their listeners

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<v Speaker 1>sent it in that they get lots of stuff from

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<v Speaker 1>their listeners, you know, not that none of them so listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't need you guys sending us stuff

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<v Speaker 1>unless you want to. But it's just that it's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, Josh and Chuck, they're busy, so they

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<v Speaker 1>leave the office for a while and just started up

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<v Speaker 1>like they start to peek up over the cubicle walls. Anyway. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>um so, my favorite shark sense is um is they

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<v Speaker 1>can they can sense electrical signals. They've got electro reception. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the apula of Lorenzini. Yeah, Ampula of Lorenzini.

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<v Speaker 1>I at first thought that was the actor who was

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<v Speaker 1>in Mega Shark Versus Giant Octopus, but it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>that's Lorenzo Lamas and it's not the ambula of Lorenzo Lamas.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lorenzini was an Italian scientist a few hundred years

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<v Speaker 1>back who who found this this organ um or or series,

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<v Speaker 1>I would call it an organ. It's a good Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a series of small clusters of um

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<v Speaker 1>electrically sensitive receptor cells that are positioned under the skin

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<v Speaker 1>in a shark's head kind of actually wear the whiskers

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<v Speaker 1>on a dog or cat would be um uh, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're connected to pores on the skin surface. These pores

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<v Speaker 1>are filled with this kind of gel jelly like stuffy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really stiff stuff, but it it is. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>I read about a scientist who specializes in extracting this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff from sharks that have died. Like they captive sharks

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<v Speaker 1>and if a shark dies part of the processes, they

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<v Speaker 1>try to pull the stuff out so they can experiment

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<v Speaker 1>on it as quickly as possible to far in more

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<v Speaker 1>about it, because we're going to talk about this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but still largely mysterious to us. Anyway, This this particular

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<v Speaker 1>organ is pretty cool. It doesn't sense movement, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sense sight or sound. It senses electrical fields, which is

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<v Speaker 1>crazy and like and like electrical fields of that are

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<v Speaker 1>created by a fish's heart. Eat. Yeah, all living things

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<v Speaker 1>have an electrical field. It's what penetrates us and binds

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<v Speaker 1>the universe together. It's not the force, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>something that living things produce. It's just a natural byproduct

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<v Speaker 1>of being a living thing. You have this electric field

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<v Speaker 1>around you as as your heart and other muscles contract,

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<v Speaker 1>they give up very small electromagnetic impulses. These are very

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<v Speaker 1>very faint, and so these incredibly sensitive organs that sharks

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<v Speaker 1>have can detect the presence of those electrical fields. And

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, I read about a really cool um experiment

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<v Speaker 1>where this was first kind of verified and or at

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<v Speaker 1>least it was one of the ones that verified, and

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<v Speaker 1>it happened back in nine And here's how they did

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<v Speaker 1>the experiment. They got some flatfish, which sharks would like

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<v Speaker 1>to eat. And flat fish often will be at the

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<v Speaker 1>very bottom of the ocean floor and bury themselves into

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<v Speaker 1>the sand, hid right, so they are out of sight.

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<v Speaker 1>So what they did was they put these flat fish

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<v Speaker 1>in a little chamber that was essentially hidden from the sharks.

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<v Speaker 1>The shark can't see the flat fish, and the chamber

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to also mask the smell of the flat fish,

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<v Speaker 1>so the shark couldn't get the scent. But the sharks

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<v Speaker 1>still could sense the presence of the flatfish and would

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<v Speaker 1>try and eat the chamber. So then they decided they'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to repeat the experiment, because you know, just doing

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<v Speaker 1>that alone does not verify that there's anything going on, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to do good science here. So what they

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<v Speaker 1>did next was they took those same types of chambers

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<v Speaker 1>and they filled it with chopped up whitefish, and white

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<v Speaker 1>fish oil is something that will really attract a shark.

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<v Speaker 1>So they put it in this chamber, and again the

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<v Speaker 1>chamber sealed, so the scent isn't getting out, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>still concealed so the shark can't see it. And the

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<v Speaker 1>sharks did not react. They did not go after it

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<v Speaker 1>as if it were a fish. So this suggested that

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps they think about the fish being alive was what

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<v Speaker 1>they could sense. And so then they did a third test.

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<v Speaker 1>In this third test, they put tiny little electrodes under

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<v Speaker 1>the sand and then they ran a very weak electrical

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<v Speaker 1>current through those electrodes, creating a faint electric field, and

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<v Speaker 1>the sharks reacted as they did when they could sense

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<v Speaker 1>the flat fish. And this seemed to be the proof

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<v Speaker 1>here that sharks have spidy sense science, I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>sharky sense. That's beautiful. So, yeah, they can detect these

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<v Speaker 1>electric fields and hunt out prey or predators. It's only

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<v Speaker 1>a few feet away from the sharks knows that this

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<v Speaker 1>that this is sensible, right, Yeah, it's not like it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like it's ability to to smell something from you know, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>But but it does mean that once they get closer

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<v Speaker 1>to their intended prey, that they are able to zone

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<v Speaker 1>in on it pretty quickly, even if it's hiding. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They scientists also think that they may possibly help eat

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<v Speaker 1>us this for navigation by sensing the magnetic pull of

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<v Speaker 1>the earth. Wow, so they're able to actually detect them

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<v Speaker 1>maybe field possibly possibly um and doesn't And definitely they

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<v Speaker 1>have found that baby sharks use this while they are

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<v Speaker 1>still in uh, in their eggs to uh if a

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<v Speaker 1>predator is coming, the baby shark can sense it through

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<v Speaker 1>this uh, through this organ and stay still enough so

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<v Speaker 1>it'll pass the predator will not get them. Nice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is uh, this is interesting stuff. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've also heard all about sharks going on these long

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<v Speaker 1>migrations and then showing up like like whale sharks tend

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<v Speaker 1>to show up, I believe off the coast of Central America. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have a friend actually who went and got

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<v Speaker 1>to see this in person. Actually you know him too.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh it's a friend of both of ours who went

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<v Speaker 1>and saw this in person. And from his his account,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like it was toy spectacular to see all

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<v Speaker 1>these whale sharks an enormous number. But yeah, so it

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<v Speaker 1>may be that they're using this this ability as part

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<v Speaker 1>of that navigational um, you know, aid so that they

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<v Speaker 1>know which way to go where they're going. And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that about wraps up our first section here

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<v Speaker 1>on on shark inner technology. Right, So now we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about in the second half all about the

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<v Speaker 1>ways we kind of mess with sharks really in an

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to not be eaten by them or to study

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<v Speaker 1>them further. Before we get into that, though, let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick moment to thank our sponsored All Right, we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've talked about the sharks senses. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things we do with sharks and how

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<v Speaker 1>we study them. Yeah, well, okay, we were just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about shark migration habits, and this is one of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>This applies to any kind of marine life. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the sea is kind of deep and a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>dark and easily accessible, right, not super you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we can't breathe or walk on it is

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<v Speaker 1>problematic for us. So so in order to find out

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<v Speaker 1>more about things like sharks, we tend to tag them

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<v Speaker 1>these This is done um in sharks cases, by acoustic trackers. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this was really cool. I did not realize this, and

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<v Speaker 1>Hill I saw the research that you sent about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that these are all acoustic based. That means their

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<v Speaker 1>sound based and in fact the sensors and the receptors

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<v Speaker 1>only work when they get pretty close to one another. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's huge arrays of these under various oceans. The

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<v Speaker 1>most extensive one is off the kind of Halifax spanning

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<v Speaker 1>KOs which is about hundred and fifteen miles. So these

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<v Speaker 1>are for Canadian sharks. Yes, I bet they're extra polite.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm not sure if that's a true fact, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm willing to roll with it. Okay. But yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>there and if you if you're working with someone who

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<v Speaker 1>has done this quite a bit. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a process that actually doesn't take very long. Uh. The

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<v Speaker 1>the way it works is they have to, uh first

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<v Speaker 1>they have to entice sharks to come close to whatever

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<v Speaker 1>boat they are on. Research usually not difficult. Food is

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty pretty strong attractor. Yeah, they just put some

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<v Speaker 1>bait chum. Yeah, anyone who's watched Jaws again, that big

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<v Speaker 1>old bucket of chum, same sort of things. So they

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<v Speaker 1>usually end up putting like a perforated bucket into the

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<v Speaker 1>water and shake it around a bit and then within

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<v Speaker 1>you know, half an hour, to an hour, they start

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<v Speaker 1>attracting sharks. They catch the sharks, often using rotten real approach,

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<v Speaker 1>but they'll catch the sharks bring them aboard the boat.

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<v Speaker 1>As it turns out, if you turn a shark upside

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<v Speaker 1>down with some species of shark anyway, it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>paralyzes them, a similar effect to to you know, picking

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<v Speaker 1>a cat up by the scrap or something like. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's called tonic immobility. Actually know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a lot of friends who suffer from gen

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<v Speaker 1>and tonic a mobility where you put it, like at

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<v Speaker 1>least four or five drinks them and they just they

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<v Speaker 1>ain't going anywhere. What I didn't name you, Lauren, so

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<v Speaker 1>um anyway, Yeah, if you put a shark on its back,

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<v Speaker 1>some sharks they go into this tonic immobility trance like state,

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<v Speaker 1>which allows the researchers then to perform the procedure, which

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<v Speaker 1>involves making an incision implanted to an acoustic device, uh

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<v Speaker 1>and then stitching them up and that can take about

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes, and then they can put the shark back

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<v Speaker 1>into the ocean. Shark swims away and none the worse

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<v Speaker 1>for wear, and whenever it swims near a receiver, the

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<v Speaker 1>transmitt mission from the implant will be picked up by

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<v Speaker 1>the receiver and then they can track the sharks movements right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and that includes tracking where they're going during

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<v Speaker 1>different seasons, where they feed, and even where their pups

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<v Speaker 1>are hatched and raised. Right, So that gives us a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more information about creatures that were a large you know,

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<v Speaker 1>largely are very mysterious to us. I mean, it's there's

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<v Speaker 1>only so much research you can do by capturing and

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<v Speaker 1>putting into captivity a shark because obviously that's a totally

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<v Speaker 1>different set of circumstances than a shark being allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>roam freely. Yeah. Yeah, so so it's pretty cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's um some other things we can do

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<v Speaker 1>with sharks that like not be eaten by them. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big thing that people want. So there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of of occupations out there that involve everything

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<v Speaker 1>from science research to certain types of fishing or ocean harvesting,

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<v Speaker 1>or or even hobbyists like surfers. Right where it could

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<v Speaker 1>mean that you are occasionally put into an environment what

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<v Speaker 1>it could be shark rich and uh and you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>sharks are not out to get us, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>times where you could be in a situation where you

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<v Speaker 1>could be prone to a shark attack. So I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of work done in ways of making that

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<v Speaker 1>not happen, which is excellent. There's one of the slightly

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<v Speaker 1>older technologies is called electric shark repellent. Yeah, this is now.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember we talked about the Lorenzo Lamas Oregon in the

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<v Speaker 1>last section where it allows you to detect bad movies.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at my wrong notes and feel Laurenzini, well

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<v Speaker 1>impelve Lareenzini allows them to detect electric fields. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. If you overwhelm the shark's ability to detect

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<v Speaker 1>electric fields, it causes them discomfort. It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to overwhelm any of our senses, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a little bit like blowing an air horn maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>or or a flash bomb or something like. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>if it's an incredibly bright light, you can't look at

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 1>it right, if it's incredibly loud sound, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>get away, if it's an incredibly bad smell that you

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<v Speaker 1>want out. I mean, they're they're all these different uh

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<v Speaker 1>ways that we have experienced as human beings. Are senses

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 1>being overwhelmed and it's not a pleasant experience. Same sort

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:37.679
<v Speaker 1>of thing here, the electric shark repellent. The idea is

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<v Speaker 1>to create an electric field that's not going to hurt

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 1>the shark. It's not going Yeah. The design is not

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:47.919
<v Speaker 1>harm the shark in any way, but to create, yeah,

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 1>or or just give it like a really unpleasant sensation

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:53.200
<v Speaker 1>so it gets the heck out of there right. Uh.

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:58.879
<v Speaker 1>This was developed by South Africa's Natal Sharks Board around Um.

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:02.680
<v Speaker 1>It's currently by a company called shark Shield the technology

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 1>and originally it was called Protective Oceanic Devices or pods.

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Currently it is called shark Shield and it works by

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<v Speaker 1>creating an electromagnetic field detectible from a couple dozen feet away. Yeah.

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>It's usually between eight and ten meters, depending upon the strength.

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 1>The strength of it. Yeah. It consists of a battery

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 1>pack which provides the power and two electrodes. Uh. The

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:32.360
<v Speaker 1>one that shark Shield showed off that I saw had

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>an electrode that fits on a scuba tank and a

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>second electrode that fits around the diver's ankle. So these

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:43.680
<v Speaker 1>two electrodes are what produced this electric field. And it's

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a weak field. It's not terribly strong, because remember that

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:50.480
<v Speaker 1>shark's ability to sense these electric fields is incredibly sensitive,

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't take a lot to overwhelm it. So

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>when the shark swims in and encounters this intense field,

0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:01.680
<v Speaker 1>it usually just jerks away. Bid. Yeah, it looks like it.

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>It looks like something like, you know, you just hit

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the worst smell you've ever smelled, and you just got

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:09.119
<v Speaker 1>to get out of there. It's kind of like that.

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>There's like a quick spasm and then they're just gone.

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't look like there's any It doesn't stun

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>them to the point where they suddenly go motionless and

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 1>start to sing again, and they don't flop around or

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 1>anything unpleasant like that. It's like it's like nothing not

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>doing that. The video actually had the guy, one of

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the guys, underneath uh tuna, a giant tuna that they

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:33.879
<v Speaker 1>had cut open his bait. Well, great white sharks swam

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>around him but would not get close to him because

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:40.160
<v Speaker 1>he was wearing one of these things. They are not guaranteed.

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:44.679
<v Speaker 1>Studies have found that sharks, I mean basically, if you

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:48.479
<v Speaker 1>have a bit of bait and do you put an

0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 1>electric field on it or near it, a shark is

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna eat it. Yeah, but humans are are not tasty bait.

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>Most sharks, in fact, once they take take an initial

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 1>bite out of human, person will go new. That's not

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:05.359
<v Speaker 1>good at all. It's called a test bite. But the

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>problem is that a test bite can be can totally

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 1>kill you. Yeah, if it's a if it's a large

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.159
<v Speaker 1>enough shark with a powerful enough bite, that's more than

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>enough to at least maim you, I mean give cause

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>you serious injury, if not actually critical injury rather um. Yeah,

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>but so I recommend not being uh tunabate while you're

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 1>in the water. So Olympic size swimming pool filled with

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>blood and tuna bate, loud load noises. Uh, you don't

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>want to jump in just with one of these to

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.400
<v Speaker 1>protect you. Yes, okay, got it, all right, I'm still

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm making this checklist is getting longer. I'm never going

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 1>swimming again, not even in my pool. He's just this,

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 1>This next one might might comfort you a tiny bit.

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:52.199
<v Speaker 1>Slip and slide. The most recent technology to have been

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 1>developed UM comes from the University of Western Australia, teamed

0:27:56.119 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 1>with a biotech company called UH Shark Attack Mitigation System.

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>All right, So Sam's Sam's right, and this is shark

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>repelling wet suits based on visual designs. So it is

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 1>fashion so bad that sharks run screaming. The other way

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>sham screaming. Oh no, not even so what how does

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>it do this? Like? Is it is it? Is it

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 1>hiding you or is it? Well? There there are two

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.679
<v Speaker 1>types of patterns that they have developed. One is a

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>m cryptic or blinding pattern, and this is kind of

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>like water camo. It helps you. It's a it's a

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>series of grays and greens and blues and helps you

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>blend in hypothetically with the background of the of the water. Interesting. Now,

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that would not leave me terribly confident if the shark

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>got close enough, because again, it could start picking up

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>that electric field, absolutely, but it might at least not

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>attract the shark's attention the way that any normal bit

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>of surfer gear might. Yeah, and if the shark doesn't

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>come close, then that field isn't is not gonna be

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>activated anyway. Like we said, it's very sensitive, but it

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 1>has to get within a few feet of you before

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>it starts picking anything up. So you know, it's a

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>little bit like um active shark cameos. The other kind

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 1>is warning and this makes you so highly visible with

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>a with a disruptive high contrast pattern that the shark

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>looked like takes one look at you and goes that

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 1>is not that is not normal, that is that is tasty,

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>and that is maybe dangerous. Wow. Okay, so it's looking

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 1>at you and it's just so it's essentially oh, high

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.479
<v Speaker 1>contrast banding. I see that. Yeah. So yeah, it's these

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>very it's these very thick black and white bands. You

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>look a little bit like a zebra surfer and so interesting.

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 1>So if you threw a zebra into an Olympic sized

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>swimming pool, don't do that. Why would you do that? Science? Okay, No,

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>you're fair, that's Fair's fair? Yea, it would be cruel

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and unusual zebra punishment. Um. Yeah, but I mean these

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>are really interesting ideas because you know, bank, when when

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 1>us and I first talked about doing a Shark Week

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>episode or tech stuff at that time, the most of

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the stuff we were looking at it was pretty low tech.

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>We were looking at things like chain mail suits that

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>are bite suits designed to withstand a shark's bite, but

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>you still get bitten by the sharks, right, and you

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 1>can still sustain heavy bruising and even even bone breakage

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>through a chain mail suit like that. And then we

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>also talked about like shark cages, but really, shark cages

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>don't have a lot of tech to them. It's essentially

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>a metal cage designed to keep the shark away from you.

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Really good welding. Yeah, so I'm glad that you were

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>able to find so many interesting examples of technology being

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>used in shark research and just protecting people who are

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>working in environments where there are a lot of sharks.

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>And of course here's where we remind our listeners yet again,

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 1>sharks are not out to get yet. They are not,

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>none of them. None of them are like Jaws. Yeah,

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>they certainly won't follow you from not tuck it down

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>to the Caribbean and then wait for you and and

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and plan revenge like Jaws. For they what a horrible

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>movie that is. However, you will get to meet Michael

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Caine if that happens, so that's kind of cool. Um

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>And and sharks are very useful. I'm just going to

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>ignore that last. Sharks are very very useful um as

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the top of their food chain. They help keep the

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>gray seal population in check, which it sounds terrible for

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>gray seals. But the thing is that if you take

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 1>a major predator out of an ecosystem, um you wind

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>up just working that ecosystem on balances. And then next

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>thing you know, you have other other animals populations exploding,

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>which then is a negative impact on other populations and

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>other eco system For for example, US, if the gray

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>seal population isn't kept in check, then the amount of

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>fish that we can capture from from natural waters goes

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 1>way down because the gray seals eat too many of them. Yeah,

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>so it's and etcetera, etcetera. So if you like sushi,

0:31:56.160 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>don't kill sharks. Fair enough, Sharks are hunted very frequently

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>form for their fins, which are sold as food and

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>occasional occasionally as like kind of her herbal traditional medicines. Yeah,

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>there's and a lot of sharks are protected by law,

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>although which does not stop poachers at all. Doesn't stop

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 1>them at all. No, so uh, and then there are

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, there are plenty of sharks out there that

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I think are wicked awesome that are not a danger

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 1>at all to humans, like whale sharks another example. They

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>are not They're not going to chew you up they're

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>not going to do that. That's not what they eat.

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>The tiniest of tiny things. If you swam directly into

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 1>its face, um, it would probably wonder what the heck

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to do. It might I suppose it could

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>crush you accidentally. It could whack you with its tail.

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>But they tend to be these just giant, slow moving,

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>fairly gentle creatures. I mean they're they're essentially they're filter feeders,

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 1>very similar to other filter feeders. Um, and they're awesome.

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>We have a couple here in Atlanta that I like

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>to see whenever I go to the George To Aquarium.

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Well that that's a good conversation just about the science

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>of sharks and the technology we've developed. Oh oh, I

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>forgot to mention. I had mentioned at the top of

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the show about the possibility of developing tech that would

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>allow us to kind of emulate what sharks can do. Right, Yeah,

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that electro was that the electro electro sensitive idea. Yeah.

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>So so this is something that we'll talk about more

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>in a future podcast. We're gonna probably do an episode

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>about body modification. Uh. And in the interest of full disclosure,

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan has two tattoos. Um. But the body modification I

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>was going to talk about was that there's this subculture

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>of body modifying folks and one of the things they

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>like to do is have a tiny magnet implanted uh

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 1>in their fingertip. In a fingertip usually it tends to

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>be at least the reference I've always seen is make

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>it the ring finger on your non dominant hand, because

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>so that if something terrible goes wrong, that's you've lost

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the least useful finger. Morbid. But yeah, it's tough, and

0:33:58.080 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk more about it if we do a full

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>podcast on it. But the the ideas the magnet would

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>allow you to do things like sense electric fields because

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the the relative the nature between electricity and magnetism means

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 1>that you have this this connection now would have to

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>be a fluctuating electric field. You can detect it if

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>you moved through it, but upon moving through it, like

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 1>if you if you just encounter an electric field that

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>wasn't changing, you would detect it when you first encountered

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 1>it and then it would just be normal. Right, So

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>it had to be a fluctuating electric field for you

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to continue to detect it. But this would allow you

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 1>to do that where you could sense electric fields just well,

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>not just like, but in a similar way to the

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.439
<v Speaker 1>way sharks do. So it's kind of interesting that there

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.759
<v Speaker 1>are body modification fans out there who are building in

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the capability of sensing things the way a shark would

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily you know, framing it that way, but that's

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:54.720
<v Speaker 1>how it ends up, and I think that's pretty awesome.

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I would be volunteering to do that anytime.

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to that either. Yeah, yeah, it seems

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 1>like that might be a little extreme, even for me. Um.

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>But however, it's kind of interesting and we'll talk again

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 1>more about that because there's been some other interesting developments

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:15.799
<v Speaker 1>of technology built up around this kind of body modification.

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I just thought i'd throw that in there

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 1>because I thought it was meat, you know, this idea

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>of this sixth sense out of the seventh that sharks have,

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and and to uh to kind of talk about how

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>there are people who are sort of emulating that. Anyway,

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.680
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