Speaker 1: Check it in man, and I'm just told the story
Speaker 1: now always Dondo's idiots will believe in analytics. This is
Speaker 1: a numbers game with Gil Alexander Gone Vison.
Speaker 2: Good Monday morning too. It is a numbers game at
Speaker 2: Visondsports Betting Network, Visa dot Com Games plus, iHeartRadio YouTube TV.
Speaker 2: How already take it us in. We appreciate it. It's
Speaker 2: Gil Alexander, Kelly Biddling alongside for guessing lines week number
Speaker 2: two in the National Football League guessing lines, which we
Speaker 2: have been doing. I have been doing this podcast this
Speaker 2: version for it's not a podcast, but it is podcast
Speaker 2: in our secondary form now but radio side obviously in
Speaker 2: its primary form fourteen years now, fourteen fourteen. And for
Speaker 2: those who don't know what it is all about, I
Speaker 2: do not know the lines. I'm in a cocoon from
Speaker 2: Sunday till this morning. The exercise is such that we
Speaker 2: will go through all of yesterday's games. Kelly will in
Speaker 2: the process. We will do that. Kelly will throw out
Speaker 2: the games from this coming. We'll go through the games
Speaker 2: that the play that these two teams, the two teams
Speaker 2: in uh in question played in yesterday or this weekend.
Speaker 2: And then I will take a stab at a line,
Speaker 2: and you will tell me how absolutely wrong or correct
Speaker 2: I am. And in that process we hope to extract
Speaker 2: value handicapping wise before we start, sir, Yes, five five
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty three entries of fourteen thousand, two hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty six gone in Survivor. That is thirty eight
Speaker 2: point nine nine percent of all entries gone week one,
Speaker 2: still one game to play, by the way, But I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody has the Jets or Niners. Do they?
Speaker 2: Maybe they do, but that's the story. Thirty eight point
Speaker 2: nine nine percent gone, thirty four point three percent alone
Speaker 2: on the Cincinnati Bengals. So there you go with that,
Speaker 2: which we'll get to momentarily. That was a big Survivor killer.
Speaker 2: But thirty eight point nine nine percent gone. How did
Speaker 2: you do in millions? We have one hundred twenty three
Speaker 2: on the Niners too, we do, and okay, so could
Speaker 2: be more. And one on the Jets. How does that
Speaker 2: one do? One bold multi entry on the Jets? How
Speaker 2: did how did my millions go? Gil? Yes, sir, well,
Speaker 2: we're on pace for Kelly Bidley to win this whole thing.
Speaker 2: You're on pace for ninety and oh I got four
Speaker 2: to oh and one and a four and oh with
Speaker 2: Jets pending tonight. There you go, Yes, how about you?
Speaker 2: I was yours? Oh you have two entries, two entries, yes,
Speaker 2: four oh and one and four and oh with the
Speaker 2: Jets penning. I am three and one with the Jets pending.
Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's go all right, go numbers game, but
Speaker 2: on the money. Let us do this and survivor. We
Speaker 2: we're good on. Uh, survivor, We're good on. Well, we'll
Speaker 2: get to the survivor thing when it comes up. I'm
Speaker 2: sure yours was a cakewalk. Well. I lost some entries too.
Speaker 2: I didn't play them all on the Saints, but I
Speaker 2: lost some entries too. Oh yeah, absolutely, I didn't go
Speaker 2: all all in. I had some Bengals as well. Let's
Speaker 2: go Week two in the National Football all right, guessing lines,
Speaker 2: let's fire it up season number fifteen? Is that what
Speaker 2: you just said? Fourteen fourteen? I don't know, you know,
Speaker 2: to be honest, I didn't out.
Speaker 3: Long enough and we don't know.
Speaker 2: Numbers gave his back all right, Thursday night, let's started
Speaker 2: up Bills at Dolphins. Alrightp my misch bocha on this.
Speaker 2: By the way, we'll send a tribute to him. Bill's
Speaker 2: at Dolphins. Oh good game AFC East, by the way,
Speaker 2: the primetime game's great, the Sunday Day games. So Bud's
Speaker 2: good new football tame buff Buffalo yesterday beats Arizona. If
Speaker 2: you got the plus six and a half on the Cardinals,
Speaker 2: you got the money on that, and you should have
Speaker 2: gotten more than six if you're doing this right. But
Speaker 2: Buffalo about what I thought they were? Opening drive aided
Speaker 2: by a conversion. Opening drive for Arizona, I should say
Speaker 2: aided by a conversion via questionable unnecessary roughness calling a
Speaker 2: late sliding Kyler Murray third and thirteen for the Buffalo
Speaker 2: twenty five three plays later, Murray to Michael Wilson from
Speaker 2: five out, seven to nothing Arizona about halfway through the
Speaker 2: first quarter. Then after a Brandon Codrington fifty three yard
Speaker 2: kickoff return, the Bills get to the Cards nineteen but
Speaker 2: first and ten, Allen doesn't feel the pressure. He's sacked
Speaker 2: by Roy Lopez. He fumbles. Justin Jones recovers and that
Speaker 2: leads to a Praterer twenty nine yard field goal first play,
Speaker 2: second quarter, ten to nothing Arizona. They would get a
Speaker 2: bass thirty seven yard field will The Bills would to
Speaker 2: cut it a ten to three early second quarter, but
Speaker 2: then Arizona seventy one yards on thirteen plays Connor in
Speaker 2: from three. Seventeen to three Arizona with two point forty
Speaker 2: left in the second quarter. And if you are a
Speaker 2: Bills survivor player, the sphincter Kelly as they say Titans,
Speaker 2: I believe they say that. Yes, do they say that
Speaker 2: or do we just say that? Here's the key, Here's
Speaker 2: the key of the whole game. Though Buffalo has a
Speaker 2: double dip opportunity and they execute it perfectly. They take
Speaker 2: advantage Allan running still their best play. Allen Josh Allen
Speaker 2: running is still the Buffalo Bill's best playing period Superman
Speaker 2: seven yards from the fourteen, then then the rest of
Speaker 2: the seven yards into the end zone seventeen to ten
Speaker 2: Arizona nineteen seconds left. That would go to a halftime
Speaker 2: opening second half. Remember they get the ball first, ball
Speaker 2: doesn't go into the landing zone. Bills start at their
Speaker 2: own forty. The matriculate Alan and mac Collins from eleven
Speaker 2: out on third and ten touchdown. We are tied at
Speaker 2: seventeen nine fifty one left in the third quarter. There's
Speaker 2: your double dip. After the team's trade three and out,
Speaker 2: second and seven from the Arizona or Arizona at their
Speaker 2: own twenty four, I should say Murray sacked by Greg
Speaker 2: Risoey fumbles recovered by Dorian Williams. Buffalo five plays twenty
Speaker 2: one yards Alan Tishakir from eleven out and Buffalo takes
Speaker 2: their first lead twenty four to seventeen to thirty seven
Speaker 2: left in the third. But in the fourth Arizona matriculates.
Speaker 2: They get a praterer thirty one yard field will to
Speaker 2: cut it to twenty four to twenty thirteen, thirty two
Speaker 2: left in the game, and then the Bills go nine
Speaker 2: plays seventy yards Alan to Coleman of twenty in there,
Speaker 2: but Allan himself in from three. That's keyon Coleman. You're
Speaker 2: got from FSU. But then Alan himself once again their
Speaker 2: best played just Alan tucking in under and running from
Speaker 2: six out and Buffalo now is in is in cover
Speaker 2: range at thirty one to twenty but en suing kickoff,
Speaker 2: DJ Dallas returns it ninety six yards, the first dynamic
Speaker 2: kickoff return for a touchdown ever. Connor in from two
Speaker 2: thirty one excuse me, Yeah, Connor in for the two
Speaker 2: point conversion, I should say thirty one twenty eight Buffalo.
Speaker 2: They would add a Fueld goal to make it thirty
Speaker 2: four to twenty eight, and then it would be it
Speaker 2: would be on Arizona's racket to win this ballgame. Marvin
Speaker 2: Harrison Junior on this drive wide open on one of
Speaker 2: the plays in the end zone, Kyler Murray completely misses him.
Speaker 2: We'll get to the Arizona part of this one gets
Speaker 2: an Arizona game, but their game plan with Marvin Harrison
Speaker 2: Junior was the weirdest thing ever. Barely got targeted. Bill's
Speaker 2: win thirty four to twenty eight because that last drive
Speaker 2: installed at the twenty nine really didn't flirt with anything.
Speaker 2: Cards again, ats winners at plus six and a half.
Speaker 2: Josh Allen eighteen of twenty three for two thirty two,
Speaker 2: two touchdowns, no PICKSI was sacked twice nine carries for
Speaker 2: thirty nine yards two touchdowns. He did lose one fumble
Speaker 2: Miami in a game where prior to its start, Tyreek
Speaker 2: Hill stopped for speeding outside of hard Rock Stadium, then
Speaker 2: got into a verbal altercation with police, subsequently placed in
Speaker 2: handcuffs stomach down on the ground, fans walking by bizarre
Speaker 2: like I was a bizarre If I was a kid
Speaker 2: and I walked by Gary Clark, face down, handcuffed at RFK,
Speaker 2: lost my mind didn't matter in the end, after Miami
Speaker 2: turns it over on down early, they trade punts. Jacksonville
Speaker 2: goes ninety six yards forty yard PI, the biggest jug
Speaker 2: atn next play in in from one seven to nothing
Speaker 2: Jacksonville four to thirty one left in the first quarter.
Speaker 2: Then after a Miami three and down a Jacksonville punt,
Speaker 2: Miami stopped on fourth and three at the Jacksonville forty
Speaker 2: five to two incomplete intended for Barrios batted down, so
Speaker 2: it goes back to Jacksonville. They go fifty five yards
Speaker 2: on eight plays, Lawrence to Kirk for thirty, the big
Speaker 2: play to Brian Thomas Junior the rook from fourteen out
Speaker 2: fourteen to nothing Jacksonville six twenty one left in the
Speaker 2: second quarter, and then Miami finally gets it going twelve
Speaker 2: play seventy yards two to eight Chan for sixteen, rushing
Speaker 2: for eleven, to waddle for twenty to Reek for ten
Speaker 2: along the way, eventually eight Chan in from one fourteen
Speaker 2: to seven Jacksonville late second quarter, enough time though for
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars to get a Cam Little fifty three
Speaker 2: yard field goal before the half, after Lawrence hit Thomas
Speaker 2: Junior again for eighteen and gave Davis for twenty their
Speaker 2: new acquisition. Seventeen to seven Jacksonville the half. Now after
Speaker 2: they traded punts a couple times, the Jags in matriculate.
Speaker 2: Now they're up ten at this point, first and ten
Speaker 2: at the Miami thirteen. The key sequence of this ball game,
Speaker 2: ETN from thirteen out gets eleven of the yards on
Speaker 2: the way into the end zone, about to put the
Speaker 2: jackson the Jags up seventeen, stripped by Javon Holland fumbles
Speaker 2: into the end zone recovered by Caterco of Miami. First
Speaker 2: play in suing drive here late third quarter. Two A
Speaker 2: to Tyreek, two A to Tyreek. I don't know how
Speaker 2: he turned that corner impossibly amazing eighty yards to payper
Speaker 2: at seventeen to fourteen. Jacksonville won a turn of events
Speaker 2: in this game, and then Jacksonville gets a little panicky
Speaker 2: fourth and one at their own thirty two. They decided
Speaker 2: to go for it at ten after a long plan
Speaker 2: in which he went left and ride stopped for a
Speaker 2: two yard loss, but Miami was stopped on a three
Speaker 2: and out. Jason Sanders missed a forty two yard try
Speaker 2: way left. I don't know what that was about, so
Speaker 2: it was still seventeen fourteen Jacksonville for the moment dodges
Speaker 2: the bullet. Eventually, after a Jacksonville punt, Miami gets the
Speaker 2: ball again. Sanders ties it with a thirty seven yard
Speaker 2: or with four to twenty two left, then another three
Speaker 2: and out for Jacksonville after Jalen Phillips sacked Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2: Miami takes it over at their own thirty five tie
Speaker 2: ball game two oh nine left. Nothing real special on
Speaker 2: the drive, but they get it far enough to get
Speaker 2: a Sanders fifty two yard try. That one is right
Speaker 2: down the pipe and the Dolphins win it twenty to
Speaker 2: seventeen to a twenty three for thirty seven for three
Speaker 2: thirty eight tyreek seven for one, thirty waddle for five
Speaker 2: for one oh nine. In that ballgame eight chain by
Speaker 2: the way, ten for twenty four on the ground and
Speaker 2: a touchdown seven catches for seventy six yards, they outgained
Speaker 2: Jacksonville four hundred to two sixty seven in total yards.
Speaker 2: By the way, another theme of Week one in the NFL,
Speaker 2: so many penalties called seventeen total in this game for
Speaker 2: one seventy four. Miami had nine for one oh three.
Speaker 2: Buffalo at Miami. I am going to say, now, this
Speaker 2: is going to have a lot to do with my
Speaker 2: pre flop convictions, my preseason convictions. I said, Miami by
Speaker 2: four in this game. Yeah, you have Miami by four.
Speaker 2: This might be a bet for you. It is Dolphins
Speaker 2: two right now. Pretty much everywhere I'm looking it is two.
Speaker 2: At DraftKings did see this at one one and a
Speaker 2: half some points yesterday the openers. But we are two
Speaker 2: pretty much across the board on the Miami Dolphins. Why
Speaker 2: is that less than three? I don't know. It's a
Speaker 2: good question, you know me how I feel about the
Speaker 2: Bills and Dolphins. I was like kind of eyeing Bills
Speaker 2: for this game that this line surprised me a little
Speaker 2: bit that I was that it was only two. Now,
Speaker 2: I mean, I get it if you don't if you
Speaker 2: don't believe in my four, that's one thing. But why
Speaker 2: is it less than three? What is it? That's where
Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be. I thought it was
Speaker 2: gonna be one of the basic threes. You know, sometimes
Speaker 2: we go through these and we're like, it's three because
Speaker 2: what else could you make? Because because I think the
Speaker 2: biggest thing that we can extract from this exercise this week,
Speaker 2: and we'll get to all of these, But one of
Speaker 2: the biggest things is which of the winners yesterday do
Speaker 2: you look at and you say to yourself, well, actually,
Speaker 2: not as good as the as the final score suggests.
Speaker 2: And which of the teams not as bad as the
Speaker 2: final score suggests. And I don't think I learned anything
Speaker 2: new about the Bills. I think I feel exactly about
Speaker 2: them as I did, which is I don't think they're
Speaker 2: gonna have a great year. Defensive concern concerns only show
Speaker 2: themselves so themselves even more yesterday, and specifically against that
Speaker 2: Arizona defense. What do Arizona's defense is supposed to be
Speaker 2: one of the worst of the National Football League? How
Speaker 2: do you and how is it that you end up
Speaker 2: falling into a hole against that football team and really
Speaker 2: just having to stave off an upset at your in
Speaker 2: your own stadium, because Arizona, for that that last drive
Speaker 2: was really bad. And I don't know. We'll get to
Speaker 2: it with Arizona, but I don't know what the story
Speaker 2: was with Marvin Harrison Junior. He was only targeted four
Speaker 2: times and on that last drive wide open in the
Speaker 2: end zone and Kyler Murray, it was almost like he
Speaker 2: refused to look at him. Yeah, no, that Buffalo odd.
Speaker 2: Buffalo would have lost it out right, Yeah, that was odd.
Speaker 2: And meanwhile on Miami side, I think there's as close
Speaker 2: of a game as it was. You might not be
Speaker 2: overly thrilled. If you're a Finns fan. Look at the
Speaker 2: box score. You're offense still generated a lot. I think
Speaker 2: there's positive things with that team going forward. More guessing
Speaker 2: lines try to extract value. Week two in the NFL,
Speaker 2: it's a numbers game, at least in these sports Betting Network.
Speaker 1: Numbers game on said the sports vetting.
Speaker 2: Network back on a numbers game. Guessing Line Season fourteen.
Speaker 2: Tim Lawson Podcast historian just told me that this is
Speaker 2: the beginning of season fourteen. All right, guessing line started
Speaker 2: in twenty eleven. Twenty eleven, Yeah, this would be season
Speaker 2: number fourteen. I like to start with some value in
Speaker 2: right there. I feel there's value on the Dolphins, as
Speaker 2: we just talked about. Yeah, if that's lower than three,
Speaker 2: I just don't I don't know what the justification for that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you know my you just know my reservations
Speaker 2: against betting against the great Josh Allen. But don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong. When I first saw that line last night,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this feels a little late on Miami. Let's
Speaker 2: go so I might get there. Let's go to sun
Speaker 2: all right, Sunday, early window, Saints at Cowboys. All right,
Speaker 2: we don't have to spend much time on the Saints
Speaker 2: crushing of the Carolina Panthers. Just no, we'll just do
Speaker 2: the start of this because all you really need to know.
Speaker 2: Opening drive of the game, the Saints fifth play, car
Speaker 2: to Shaheed for fifty nine touchdown, seven to nothing New
Speaker 2: Orleans less than three minutes in first play from scrimmage
Speaker 2: for Carolina. First play Kelly Young picked by Will Harris,
Speaker 2: Bryce Young first pass picked. It's okay, first play. I'm
Speaker 2: sure it will get better from there. New Orleans settles
Speaker 2: for a group a fifty seven yardfield by way, how
Speaker 2: great is the field goal kicking in this league?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yes, well it's so good.
Speaker 2: It's insane that we have to act like Jason Sanders
Speaker 2: miss was the most ungodly thing we've ever seen. Oh wait,
Speaker 2: he shouldn't belong in the league or something. Or if
Speaker 2: you're a Washington fan, you're like, oh, where the team
Speaker 2: that can't kick a field goal? Ten to nothing? New
Speaker 2: Orleans ten to nothing New Orleans the less than five
Speaker 2: minutes in next drive, Young misses a wide open Deontay
Speaker 2: Johnson on third down Saints, then goes seventy nine yards
Speaker 2: on eleven plays, Carda Foster Morow from three out, seventeen
Speaker 2: to nothing. We're still in the first quarter. Then, after
Speaker 2: a Carolina punt, Group A from forty four to twenty
Speaker 2: to nothing. After Jonathan Mingo fumble on the second play
Speaker 2: for the next Carolina drive, Group A from fifty two
Speaker 2: twenty three to nothing. After another Carolina three and out,
Speaker 2: Shaheed returns up punt forty seven yards of Carolina sixteen
Speaker 2: two plays or actually, excuse me, one play, Carr goes
Speaker 2: to Juwan Johnson sixteen yards, thirty to nothing, New Orleans
Speaker 2: one eighteen left in the zec GORDA. That's all you
Speaker 2: need to know. It was thirty to three at halftime.
Speaker 2: It's cosmetic it's all academic for there by the way
Speaker 2: was thirty seven to three when Bryce was picked by
Speaker 2: Jordan Howden on the third play of the second half.
Speaker 2: From thirty seven to three, the final score forty seven
Speaker 2: to ten. New Orleans just absolutely roles. And this is
Speaker 2: one of these games where you just have to sort
Speaker 2: of say to yourself, is this New Orleans good or
Speaker 2: is this Carolina bad? And you have to from your
Speaker 2: handicaping perspective, you have to try to figure out what
Speaker 2: is more real than the other. It's probably some combination
Speaker 2: of both. But good God, Carolina. As we went through
Speaker 2: it many times this offseason. The Bryce Young season last
Speaker 2: year wasn't just bad, it was historically bad. And one
Speaker 2: off season, I guess everybody thought Canalis was going to
Speaker 2: be able to work magic. Yeah, after one game, it
Speaker 2: doesn't look that way. It just does at all. They're
Speaker 2: playing the Dallas Cowboys. Dallas could not have looked better
Speaker 2: by the way. Carr nineteen of twenty three for two
Speaker 2: hundred in that New Orleans game Cowboys against the you know,
Speaker 2: it started to kind of nip and tuck. Cleveland took
Speaker 2: a three to nothing lead. Then Dallas went seventy yards
Speaker 2: Dak to Lamb for thirty four of those beautiful Dak
Speaker 2: to Cook's twenty one yard touchdown pass Dack on the
Speaker 2: heels of signing his long term historic deal. Seven to
Speaker 2: three Dallas six poin fifty five left in the first quarter,
Speaker 2: Cleveland three and out, Dallas punt. Then the team's traded
Speaker 2: three and outs. Cleveland three and out, Dallas goes seventy
Speaker 2: eight yards and eleven plays Zeke in from three. How
Speaker 2: about that, Zeke Fourteen to three Dallas, Another Cleveland three
Speaker 2: and out, Dallas fifty seven yard field goal from Brandon
Speaker 2: Aubrey to make it seventeen to three. By this point,
Speaker 2: Cleveland's offense was just it was just getting terrible for them.
Speaker 2: Second and fourteen at their own twenty six with one
Speaker 2: to fifty two to go in the second quarter, Watson
Speaker 2: is passed hip by Parsons into the hands of Eric Kendricks.
Speaker 2: That leads to another Aubrey field goal forty yards, twenty
Speaker 2: to three Dallas with forty six seconds left, another Cleveland
Speaker 2: three and out, and then Dallas at the end of
Speaker 2: the half. They set up I don't know if you
Speaker 2: saw this. They set up for a NFL record tying
Speaker 2: sixty six yard field goal, which Aubrey, by the way, drilled,
Speaker 2: but a delay was called. Actually, by the way, then
Speaker 2: they briefly thought about trying a seventy one yard erp. Seventeen,
Speaker 2: and then they thought better of it. Uh see if
Speaker 2: you could drill that, by the way. First that actually
Speaker 2: first half stats for Deshaun seven of fifteen for thirty
Speaker 2: six one first down to Dallas is thirteen. They were outgained.
Speaker 2: The Browns were two sixteen to fifty four. Anyway, the
Speaker 2: rest of the game start the Jais clock. The rest
Speaker 2: of the game was just was it was over basically
Speaker 2: after initial Cleveland three and out to start the third
Speaker 2: and then Cavante Turpin went sixty yards on a Corey
Speaker 2: Bjorkaz punt twenty seven to three Dallas and the rest
Speaker 2: was academic thirty three to seventeen, sort of a cosmetic
Speaker 2: score at the end for Cleveland dak nineteen of thirty
Speaker 2: two for one seventy nine. They were plus two and turnovers.
Speaker 2: But this game, by the way, to the theme of penalties,
Speaker 2: twenty two total penalties called in this game for one
Speaker 2: hundred and forty nine yards. These games are I'll tell
Speaker 2: you I said it. How many times did I say
Speaker 2: something about going from four preseason games to three and
Speaker 2: the fact that every NFL team then plays their pre
Speaker 2: season differently. Some just sit all their players, some just
Speaker 2: don't look prepared to play football. Dallas just completely destroyed Cleveland.
Speaker 2: That was the one Super Contest pick I got wrong,
Speaker 2: terribly wrong on Cleveland, and Dallas might be you know,
Speaker 2: we talked about what's the thing that people have been
Speaker 2: saying a lot during the off season that you might
Speaker 2: not be able to sort of get behind. A lot
Speaker 2: of people thought Dallas would stink, and I don't look
Speaker 2: like they're gonna stink. I guess I would phrase him
Speaker 2: more as I think I think a lot of people
Speaker 2: are sleeping on this tape, sleeping on this team way
Speaker 2: too much because of the off field stuff and contracts
Speaker 2: and whatever. And I well, there, I would say, I
Speaker 2: myself said, if there was a scenario if no one
Speaker 2: was signed and then they were bad early, it would
Speaker 2: get ugly, and everybody got signed in the I guess
Speaker 2: you're also worried about what happens. Well, I feel like
Speaker 2: we talk about this in the media too much, but
Speaker 2: what happens when these guys get paid. Is that you know,
Speaker 2: is the quality of their their effort going to drop off? No,
Speaker 2: Dak and Seed looked they so many great players on defense.
Speaker 2: Dallas minus seven and a half over New Orleans is
Speaker 2: the guests, Yep, you are a little heavy. You can
Speaker 2: get Cowboys on the other side of seven right now.
Speaker 2: Six and a half over DraftKings plenty to six and
Speaker 2: a half is available. Give me that. I think I
Speaker 2: will be there with you. Did not bet it yet,
Speaker 2: was interested to see where this would move. There is
Speaker 2: one seven circa does have seven up. I would expect
Speaker 2: it to go in that direction here throughout the weeks.
Speaker 2: I will take the Cowboys on that turf if you're
Speaker 2: giving me less than seven. I like the first two
Speaker 2: games already. I think the other one real quick on
Speaker 2: the Saints just going back there, like I think we've
Speaker 2: been saying this about Derek Carr for years, right, Derek
Speaker 2: Carr is a perfectly serviceable quarterback as long as he
Speaker 2: has weapons and is not getting hit. And the Panthers
Speaker 2: once again have no pass rush whatsoever and got no
Speaker 2: pressure on the whole game. Don't know anything about New Orleans.
Speaker 2: Aaron shots can take about at least after a week
Speaker 2: one because he says New Orleans is going to win
Speaker 2: that division and that they're good. Just boring, but we
Speaker 2: don't know anything about New Orleans after playing Panthers. What's
Speaker 2: the next?
Speaker 3: Okay, next up?
Speaker 2: Buccaneers at Lions Sunday one Eastern Okay, Buccaneers. I'm not
Speaker 2: even gonna go through this game other than to tell
Speaker 2: you that the Washington Commodore's defense was the worst if
Speaker 2: Carolina was the worst thing, because I think it's hard
Speaker 2: to say anybody was worse than Carolina. The Washington defense
Speaker 2: was horrific. Didn't tackle, didn't cover. Baker Mayfield was twenty
Speaker 2: four of thirty in this game for two eighty nine.
Speaker 2: There was absolutely no resistance, four touchdowns, no picks, A
Speaker 2: lot of penalties calling this game too, by the way,
Speaker 2: fourteen for ninety seven total. Jayden Daniels, of all the
Speaker 2: rookie quarterbacks, I don't think any of the rookie quarterbacks
Speaker 2: will get to Washington. I don't think any of them
Speaker 2: were great. Jayden Daniels at least had the willingness to run,
Speaker 2: so his statu sheet looked okay on the ground anyway.
Speaker 2: But Tampa Bay was just it was so easy for
Speaker 2: them in this game. So they destroy Washington, and they
Speaker 2: do so by the final score of what was the
Speaker 2: final score in this game was it thirty seven to
Speaker 2: twenty ye cosmetic touchdown again by Washington late in that
Speaker 2: ballgame at Detroit Detroit late night. The primetime games were great,
Speaker 2: and this game last night was outstanding. We'll pick it
Speaker 2: up in the second half seventeen to three. The Lions
Speaker 2: led this game and the Rams were a mash unit
Speaker 2: at this point. Poka Nakup at this point was already
Speaker 2: ruled out with a knee injury. Seventeen to three. Golf
Speaker 2: to Jamison for fifty two is what put the Lions
Speaker 2: up seventeen to three. Rams then go eleven play seventy
Speaker 2: yards Kira it In from two seventeen to ten, Detroit
Speaker 2: three thirty three left at the third quarter after Detroit
Speaker 2: three and out, second and twelve with their own fourteen
Speaker 2: Stafford Tyler Johnson. This was the play that sort of
Speaker 2: changed this game. He puts his foot in the ground,
Speaker 2: as Mike Tarico likes to say, he spun out, went
Speaker 2: sixty three yards to the Detroit twenty three to end
Speaker 2: the third quarter. Then a pi on the rook Terry
Speaker 2: on Arnold in the end zone against de Marcus Robinson.
Speaker 2: Two plays later, Jordan Whittington in the end zone on
Speaker 2: a sweep, but aj R Coury grabbed aid In Hutchinson's
Speaker 2: face mask. The Rams had to sell for Cardi twenty
Speaker 2: six yard field goal, seventeen to thirteen, Detroit twelve thirty
Speaker 2: two to go. Then Detroit matriculated, but second and eight
Speaker 2: from the thirty golf picked by John Johnson. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if Chris collins Worth had money on Detroit,
Speaker 2: but he really wanted that not to be an interception.
Speaker 2: He was like, Ooh, I don't know, I don't know. No,
Speaker 2: we know, Chris, it was a pick. Rams then go
Speaker 2: eighty yards on ten plays, four to thirty nine, Stafford
Speaker 2: a cup from nine out, twenty to seventeen Rams with
Speaker 2: four to thirty to go, they take their first lead
Speaker 2: of this ballgame. Stafford eight of eight on that drive
Speaker 2: for seventy three yards. Then Detroit third down and five
Speaker 2: at their own thirty five. By the way, it wasn't
Speaker 2: their first lead. They led three to nothing. My bad
Speaker 2: Detroit third down and five at their own thirty five.
Speaker 2: Kobe Durant almost picks off golf. Lions decide to punt
Speaker 2: with all three timeouts and the two minute warning with
Speaker 2: four to ten left. Did you like that? Not really?
Speaker 2: I didn't either, Rams. I thought you're a riverboat Dan.
Speaker 2: Isn't that your name? Oh? That was wrong? Okay? Rams
Speaker 2: third and five, Stafford with a ridiculous fade away completion
Speaker 2: to Robinson for six new set of downs. Detroit has
Speaker 2: to start using their timeouts on deep but on second
Speaker 2: and seventeen, Kyron runs out of bounds. What are you doing?
Speaker 2: Detroit ends up getting the ball back with two timeouts
Speaker 2: and the two minute warning with two eleven left. They
Speaker 2: go right downfield, get it to third and five at
Speaker 2: the Rams fifteen with four seconds left, baits Jake Bates
Speaker 2: the rookie thirty two yard field goal. We're tied at twenty.
Speaker 2: We're going to overtime, and then you know how this goes.
Speaker 2: We're all good bets go to die. All of our
Speaker 2: Rams in games or Rams money lines or whatever. Man
Speaker 2: Lions win the toss. The Rams would never see it again.
Speaker 2: Lions go seventy yards. David Montgomery rushes for forty five
Speaker 2: of them, despite Chris Collins. We're thinking they should have
Speaker 2: perhaps kicked the field goal instead. The Lions in twenty
Speaker 2: six to twenty. He didn't really know the only one
Speaker 2: pass on that drive, just ran it right down their throw.
Speaker 2: Detroit by seven over ten. We got six and a
Speaker 2: half at DraftKings. That'll be seven because again, just like
Speaker 2: with the New Orleans I don't think we know anything
Speaker 2: about Tampa Bay. They were playing a sieve of a
Speaker 2: defense against Washington. I wouldn't go crazy about Tampa. That
Speaker 2: should be seven. Okay, well, Baker was really impressive, but
Speaker 2: you have to keep in mind the defense. These lines
Speaker 2: are a little off to me, like a couple more
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Las Vegas? Five? Well four yo? How in the
Speaker 2: hell do forty five miss making a pick?
Speaker 3: And it's the best thing every year?
Speaker 2: Tell them to send me money to them, so I
Speaker 2: so I'll make a pick for them. Sheesh, he says
Speaker 2: Mike Stacks. What is worse all the survivor no picks
Speaker 2: or all the beautiful people who maxed out with the
Speaker 2: Bengals ten times? Thank you for all the generous donations. Hey,
Speaker 2: don't get cocky, Mike Stacks, you might be next. Yeah,
Speaker 2: don't ever get cocky. And I had played it for
Speaker 2: the first time this year. He could not stop texting
Speaker 2: me about being shocked at how many people didn't get
Speaker 2: their picks in. I'm like, it happens every year. I
Speaker 2: gotta tell you something, man, I go a little different
Speaker 2: on this. I am not as shocked as most people. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean at this point I'm not well. But but
Speaker 2: what I mean by that is, Okay, that's one thing
Speaker 2: to not be shocked. But what I mean by that
Speaker 2: is I kind of understand it more than others do.
Speaker 2: I think around our little corner of the world, because
Speaker 2: people have lives, sure, and so they sign up for it.
Speaker 2: Whenever they sign up for it, and you know, if
Speaker 2: they have a wife and kids or whatever, I can
Speaker 2: see how they would forget it. I mean, it sucks
Speaker 2: and it's stupid. I'm not saying it's not, but I
Speaker 2: can see how it happens. It just has to be.
Speaker 2: I don't like a thousand dollars just has to be
Speaker 2: kind of nothing to you though. For that well, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean that. I think there's probably people
Speaker 2: we talked about this.
Speaker 3: There are definitely people that are like.
Speaker 2: Man standing, which is one hundred dollars. I forgot to
Speaker 2: do it one year because one hundred to me is
Speaker 2: a thousand to them. Right, Yes, that is yes, that
Speaker 2: is fair. Let us get tired. Let's keep rolling. We've
Speaker 2: got Sunday early slates still Colts at Packers. All right, Colts.
Speaker 2: We had an Anthony Richardson tweet too, this is gonna
Speaker 2: This game was interesting. So this is again the point
Speaker 2: of this is trying to figure out who's going to
Speaker 2: be overvalued and undervalued based on the market. Indianapolis is
Speaker 2: an interesting case. They lose to Houston by only two points.
Speaker 2: Game started out with the with fair barn giving Houston
Speaker 2: a three to nothing lead with a fifty one yard
Speaker 2: field goal. Then Colts go three plays, seventy three yards.
Speaker 2: Your guy, Anthony Richardson On just a bomb of all
Speaker 2: bombs to Alec Pierce for sixty. That ball was in
Speaker 2: the air for it seemed like way more than at
Speaker 2: seven to three Indianapolis five twelve left in the first quarter.
Speaker 2: Then Fairbairn cuts into seven to six with a fifty yarder.
Speaker 2: Again the field goal kicking in this league is just insane.
Speaker 2: It's insane with these were kicks that only a few
Speaker 2: kickers could make when I was a kid. Now they're
Speaker 2: all in fifty as. Also, it also confirms like me
Speaker 2: not wanting to bet college football nearly as much every
Speaker 2: time I say it's automatic once you get past the
Speaker 2: fifty After in Indianapolis three, Now Houston goes eighty one
Speaker 2: yards on seven plays to open the second quarter, Stroud
Speaker 2: to Collins for fifty five. The big chunk to digs
Speaker 2: from nine out twelve to seven Houston, so they go
Speaker 2: for the two point conversion and the try fails. And
Speaker 2: this is where all the scoring gets a little janky
Speaker 2: in this game because of the five point edge. Now
Speaker 2: twelve to seven. After a Colt spunt in a Houston
Speaker 2: three and out on a deforce Buckner sack of Stroud,
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson misses a wide open out of Im Mitchell.
Speaker 2: I know they say out in a but for those
Speaker 2: of us in the mosh book that we're going out
Speaker 2: of Iem Mitchell for an easy touchdown on first and
Speaker 2: tenth of Houston twenty nine. Then three plays later he's
Speaker 2: face receiver picked by Kaylin Bullock right after he misses
Speaker 2: the wide open Mitchell on second and twelve of the twenty,
Speaker 2: so with two thirty nine left in the second quarter,
Speaker 2: the half ends up running. Now, someone who watched this game,
Speaker 2: please explain to me the half ends up running out
Speaker 2: on Houston with the same score twelve to seven when
Speaker 2: they elect not to kick a field goal with five
Speaker 2: seconds left at the Indianapolis thirty one and the clock
Speaker 2: goes to zero on them. That was really weird. So
Speaker 2: again Indianapolis Houston sort of giving them an opportunity by
Speaker 2: not taking the points there. Third quarter, Texans get a
Speaker 2: fair baron fifty one yard er to go fifteen to seven.
Speaker 2: Then in Indianapolis three and out, but then the Colt's
Speaker 2: force upon Tommy Townsend attempt blocked recovered by Trevor Denbo.
Speaker 2: Next play Jonathan Taylor in from five touchdown. Two point
Speaker 2: try from Taylor fails though, so it's fifteen to thirteen Houston.
Speaker 2: Fourth quarter. Texans then goes seventy yards, including Stroud throwing
Speaker 2: the ball over the middle late. But you know, a
Speaker 2: cardinal sin for most quarterbacks. With CJ. Stradd it's like
Speaker 2: no big deal. There's Nico Collins, no problem. Eventually, mixing
Speaker 2: in from three twenty two to thirteen Houston early fourth quarter,
Speaker 2: and this is where this game was interesting because no
Speaker 2: matter how far Houston got ahead, Indianapolis would just kind
Speaker 2: of of make it interesting again. Anthony Richardson next drive
Speaker 2: misses a wide open d ball again, but then he
Speaker 2: hits Ashton Dulin for fifty four yards score. Most of
Speaker 2: that was yack twenty two to twenty Houston with twelve
Speaker 2: to twelve in the fourth quarter. Now the Texans are
Speaker 2: up twenty two to twenty four to forty five left.
Speaker 2: They get it to fourth and goal at the two.
Speaker 2: A field goal would put you up five, but Tomko
Speaker 2: Ryan says, let's go for it. Stroud to Dig's touchdown
Speaker 2: twenty nine to twenty Houston four to forty two to go.
Speaker 2: As we will find out with other coaches later on
Speaker 2: this show, if there is doubt, just be aggressive. That
Speaker 2: should be the coaches. North Star good on to Miko Ryans.
Speaker 2: Indianapolis then go sixty eight yards ar to Alec Pierce
Speaker 2: from fifty seven. Most of that most of that on
Speaker 2: that drive was that play. Four plays later, fourth and
Speaker 2: goal from the three. Richardson in from three twenty nine
Speaker 2: to twenty seven passes up the wide open running back
Speaker 2: in the flat. He's taking the hole. I taking myself
Speaker 2: twenty nine to twenty seven to two fourteen. Left. Now
Speaker 2: Indianapolis would never see the ball again, thanks in large
Speaker 2: part to a third and eleven conversion from Stroud to
Speaker 2: Collins on the sideline. Collins got a knee down, stretched
Speaker 2: out ball game. Richardson ends up completing completing nine forward
Speaker 2: passes nine of nineteen for two twelve. Uh, just because
Speaker 2: the bombs were there, and a lot of yak on
Speaker 2: another Pierce three catches for one to twenty five himself.
Speaker 2: Houston out gained any four seventeen to three oh three.
Speaker 2: And then there's uh, who are they playing? Oh? They
Speaker 2: by the way, they out time of possessioned. Uh, Houston
Speaker 2: did out time of possession Indianapolis forty minutes to twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: But that's all very deceptive because of the way of
Speaker 2: the nature of that game. Yeah, playing the Packers at
Speaker 2: green Bay. We didn't get a chance to talk about
Speaker 2: the Friday night game. But from a green Bay perspective,
Speaker 2: if you're a green Bay fan, we won't even go
Speaker 2: through it because it was it was so many days
Speaker 2: ago but from a green Bay perspective, I felt like
Speaker 2: they outplayed Philly most of that game until the fourth quarter,
Speaker 2: and then Philly did their Philly thing where they just
Speaker 2: for they just kept the ball for the last seven
Speaker 2: minutes and punched it in. But it man. But you,
Speaker 2: if you're a green Bay fan, I mean, how could
Speaker 2: I just the whole next day, I was like, if
Speaker 2: you're a green Bay fan, how do you feel you
Speaker 2: kind of dominated Philly? You might have come out of
Speaker 2: that game, even in defeat, feeling better about your team
Speaker 2: than Philly might have. I know, one team loss in
Speaker 2: the other one, but you certainly couldn't have felt bad
Speaker 2: about it until the second to last play of the
Speaker 2: game where Jordan Love gets his foot wrenched underneath the
Speaker 2: defender and he as it turns out, by the way,
Speaker 2: they got the best of this because I thought he
Speaker 2: was gonna be out. I thought MCL's sprang out three
Speaker 2: to six weeks. So now it's Malik Willis who they
Speaker 2: just signed. Good God, Laque Wills who they just signed.
Speaker 2: So because of that, I'm a say, Indianapolis minus three
Speaker 2: that is where it opened. I cannot believe it took
Speaker 2: this long to get to three and a half. I
Speaker 2: hit the three as soon as I saw it yesterday
Speaker 2: with the Colts. This is Look, this is not just
Speaker 2: a Kelly Anthony Richardson thing. We've seen enough of Malik Willis.
Speaker 2: I think they he didn't even played all that much
Speaker 2: over the first three years of his career. We've seen enough.
Speaker 2: So that's enough for me. So yeah, we're three and
Speaker 2: a half now in that game, three and a half
Speaker 2: taking money. Yeah, yeah, I see. This is one of
Speaker 2: these things. I don't think the Colts are as good
Speaker 2: as they looked yesterday based on the final Like the
Speaker 2: final score makes it look like that was a more
Speaker 2: competitive ball game than I think it was. Yeah, Adam
Speaker 2: Churnoff on his pot, I think he's on the civil
Speaker 2: handy Cap said it well this morning of I expect
Speaker 2: this to be the one of the highest variants offenses
Speaker 2: in the league this year. The Colts just have you
Speaker 2: hit two huge plays like that and you only complete
Speaker 2: nine passes, I don't know that you're good. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: he also left a couple right like that could have
Speaker 2: hit and they're going up against Malik Willis, so I
Speaker 2: definitely get that. Malik Willis. Yeah, Okay, so early session
Speaker 2: on Sunday, Jets at Titans. Jets obviously sight unseen. They
Speaker 2: play the Niners tonight where there are four point dogs
Speaker 2: as of the moment. In this game, we'll see if
Speaker 2: the Niners will have a pitch count on Trent Richardson,
Speaker 2: on Christian McCaffrey. We'll see what the story is uh
Speaker 2: at Tennessee. Tennessee loses to the Bears. How do you
Speaker 2: lose the football game? You are up seventeen to nothing
Speaker 2: in this game, Cairo Santos kicks a field goal twenty
Speaker 2: four yarder before they have to make it seventeen to three.
Speaker 2: And then in the third quarter, after Chicago punt, Tennessee's
Speaker 2: Ryan Stonehouse punt blocked Jonathan Owens to the house twenty
Speaker 2: one yards seventeen to ten Tennessee early third quarter, Santos
Speaker 2: would have a field goal to make it seventeen to thirteen.
Speaker 2: And then the fourth quarter Will Levis third and six
Speaker 2: from your own forty eight sack by Darryl Taylor, he
Speaker 2: fumbles TJ Edwards recovers that sets him up at the
Speaker 2: Tennessee thirty one. They have to settle for Santos field
Speaker 2: goal to cut it to seventeen sixteen, and then second
Speaker 2: and ten for the Titans at their own forty one
Speaker 2: with a twenty nine to go your boy, Billy Levi's
Speaker 2: ill advise pass right to Tyree Sevenson forty three yards
Speaker 2: of the house the Bears lead. They end up winning
Speaker 2: after the two Boyker version by the way twenty four
Speaker 2: to seventeen. They end up winning this ballgame leave when
Speaker 2: Levis is picked by Jalen Johnson to seal the deal.
Speaker 2: The Bears were held to eleven first downs in this game.
Speaker 2: It was like one hundred and forty eight total yards,
Speaker 2: and because of a punt return for a touchdown and
Speaker 2: a pick six, Tennessee figures out a way to lose
Speaker 2: this game sight unseen. For the Jets, I will say
Speaker 2: minus four and a half on the road, you are
Speaker 2: pretty much dead on. We are at four at DraftKings
Speaker 2: right now. Okay, didn't like those two as much as
Speaker 2: the first three games. With three three out of the shoot,
Speaker 2: it's pretty good for h value. I mean, I'll add
Speaker 2: I'll add to the obviously we haven't seen the Jets yet.
Speaker 2: I'll add the Titans to the list too. Of like Titans,
Speaker 2: I think because of what that offense has been made
Speaker 2: like this year them and the Colts.
Speaker 3: I think there're gonna be some real good looking weeks on.
Speaker 2: Offense, and I think there gonna be some real bad
Speaker 2: looking weeks on offense. I don't know if will Lepis
Speaker 2: is any good at all.
Speaker 3: I don't keep throwing those I iNTS. Billy, I got
Speaker 3: that bet, let's go.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's any good at all. More
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Speaker 2: Thanks b Seahawktion Bucks did pretty good job too for me.
Speaker 2: Thank you. There you go, ready for early Yeah, let's
Speaker 2: go forks are still early games? Right? Was still early? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Still we've got like five wour to go. All right,
Speaker 2: San Francisco's sight unseen again and they play the Jets
Speaker 2: tonight at Minnesota, Minnesota against the Giants. Good on every
Speaker 2: one of you who had the conviction to completely pound
Speaker 2: the Vikings against the Giants. I thought the Giants would suck,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't convinced about the Vikings. Well, the Giants
Speaker 2: complete suckitude Vikings first drive, third and sixty at their
Speaker 2: own nine Darnald to c j Ham hit by drey
Speaker 2: Phillipsy fumbles covered by Bobby Ocarakey, leads to a twenty
Speaker 2: three yard Ganot field goal three to nothing Giants, and
Speaker 2: that would be their high point. Vikings then went seventy
Speaker 2: five yards held by a thirty six yard PI Aaron Jones,
Speaker 2: eventually in from three seven to three Minnesota late first
Speaker 2: quarter after a Giants punt, Vikings went eleven plays ninety
Speaker 2: nine yards, Donald to Jefferson for forty four along the
Speaker 2: way eventually to Jefferson for the three out on fourth
Speaker 2: and two from the three fourteen to three Minnesota six
Speaker 2: to fifty five left in the second quarter. Darnald threw
Speaker 2: his first incompletion in this game with one minute fifteen
Speaker 2: seconds in the second quarter. That's how easy peasy it
Speaker 2: was for him. And then third quarter Vikings went right downfield,
Speaker 2: culminating in a Donald to Jalen Naylor twenty one yard
Speaker 2: touchdown pass twenty one to three after a Gano fifty
Speaker 2: yarder to make it twenty one to six. Later, Jones
Speaker 2: picked at point blank range by Andrew Van Ginkle former Dolphin.
Speaker 2: Now with the Vikings ten yards of the house, twenty
Speaker 2: eight to six late third quarter, and the rest of
Speaker 2: it was academic. Harris A Harrison Smith pick of Daniel
Speaker 2: Jones was the deal was what sealed the deal at
Speaker 2: the end, twenty eight to six, Vikings Donald nineteen of
Speaker 2: twenty four for two to eight. Just a romp by
Speaker 2: the Vikings. The Giants in their horrific one hundred year
Speaker 2: anniversary nineteen twenty five throwback jerseys, those need to be
Speaker 2: thrown out. And Daniel Jones. You know, we talk about
Speaker 2: Bryce Young, Bryce Young one year and one game. It
Speaker 2: does not look good obviously, the Carolina Panthers Daniel Jones
Speaker 2: because they signed into this long term deal after the
Speaker 2: rookie deal. Bigger disaster is a bigger disaster because this
Speaker 2: is albatross around this franchise. If you watch the Giants
Speaker 2: preseason hard knocks, you saw this coming with the Giants. Now,
Speaker 2: not necessarily in this one game because I didn't take
Speaker 2: Minnesota because I didn't know about Minnesota. But the Giants,
Speaker 2: the Barkley, you know, the the willingness to let Barkley go,
Speaker 2: the fact that Jones's contract means you can't sign Xavier McKinney.
Speaker 2: I don't know, and then their big acquisition Brian Burns
Speaker 2: from the Panthers. I don't know what he was doing yesterday,
Speaker 2: so I'll say all that again. Niners, we haven't seen
Speaker 2: yet no man's land minus five and a half on
Speaker 2: the road. Yeah, you are pretty much dead on a
Speaker 2: couple fives out there for four and a half to
Speaker 2: five and a half in that dead dead range, but
Speaker 2: five and a half at DraftKings Now keep rowing early.
Speaker 2: Seahawks at Patriots. Seahawks beat the Broncos. They do so
Speaker 2: by six, twenty six to twenty. Broncos might have had
Speaker 2: a shot late in this game. Well, first of all,
Speaker 2: let me just say this, the first half of this
Speaker 2: game was completely weird. Gino was picked by Alex Singleton
Speaker 2: to start the game. Broncos three it out, but they
Speaker 2: settled for the Lutz thirty five yard field goal after
Speaker 2: to pick three to nothing Denver. It was three to three.
Speaker 2: Then Denver drives downfield, but Nick stares down as receiver.
Speaker 2: Third and nine at the Seattle twenty one picked by
Speaker 2: Julian Love, the first of two horrific bo Nicks interceptions
Speaker 2: of this game, but Love picks it off at the
Speaker 2: one real quick Gil Yeah, touchdown, interception or interception celebrations
Speaker 2: need to change in this league. A interception where you
Speaker 2: go out at your own one yard line should not
Speaker 2: be celebration the same as a big six. Yes, so
Speaker 2: they get the ball the one the Broncos do, excuse me,
Speaker 2: the Seahawks do. In a three to three game with
Speaker 2: eleven twenty eight left in the second quarter. The first play,
Speaker 2: holding in the ends on safety five to three. Denver
Speaker 2: offensive line is horrible. Seattle punts after the safety as
Speaker 2: you do, but after holding Denver to a three and out,
Speaker 2: they fumble on the punt retur a fumble on the
Speaker 2: punt return by d Williams. Jail Skinner recovers that leads
Speaker 2: to a lets thirty yard field goal. It's eight to three.
Speaker 2: Seattle responds Geno thirty four yard touchdown run. They take
Speaker 2: a brief lead, do the Seahawks nine to eight two
Speaker 2: point attempt fails then at Denver three and out, but
Speaker 2: the pun is sixty five yards and it pins Seattle
Speaker 2: just inches from the goal line. Again another safety when
Speaker 2: Zach Allen tackles Charbonnet inside the end zone ten to nine,
Speaker 2: ten to nine Denver late in the second quarter, it's
Speaker 2: the last time two safety, the first time two safeties
Speaker 2: have occurred by one team in a game since the
Speaker 2: year twenty seventeen. Three, by the by the way, is
Speaker 2: the record in a game. One more LUTs field goal
Speaker 2: before halftime thirteen to nine Denver. Very strange first half,
Speaker 2: where Seattle was in jail seemingly in the entire first
Speaker 2: half of this game. Then once a third quarter started,
Speaker 2: a different story. After a Denver three and out, six
Speaker 2: play sixty one yards for Seattle, Kenneth Walker the third
Speaker 2: in from twenty three sixteen to thirteen Seattle, then third
Speaker 2: and eleven on their own forty six nicks to McLaughlin.
Speaker 2: He fumbles that leads to a Myers field goal to
Speaker 2: up the lead to nineteen to three. Then after another
Speaker 2: Denver three and out, Seattle goes eighty yards on six
Speaker 2: plays Gino to Zach Charbonne for thirty twenty six to
Speaker 2: thirteen seconds into the fourth quarter, and you think, well,
Speaker 2: this is to be a runaway. Well, after a Seattle
Speaker 2: punt a little later on, by the way, Denver three
Speaker 2: and out, they elect to punt fourth and one at
Speaker 2: their at their own thirty nine down thirteen. I thought
Speaker 2: that was curious. But after Seattle punted Nicks terrible pass
Speaker 2: picked by Rieke Woolan. Later after Seattle three and out,
Speaker 2: Broncos would score on a nice run by Nicks. Give
Speaker 2: Nick's credit on the run where he did that intermural
Speaker 2: football thing where you keep faking passes and spin and
Speaker 2: the defender doesn't know what to do. He did that
Speaker 2: twice and he got in easy from four out, So
Speaker 2: that cut the lead to twenty six to twenty. And
Speaker 2: he did it north of the two minute warning, so
Speaker 2: they had two timeouts and the two minute warning. They
Speaker 2: had a shot here, but it was not to be.
Speaker 2: This third and six Geno to lock it. That conversion
Speaker 2: ended the ball game. Another fourteen total penalties called in
Speaker 2: that game. But Denver ends up beating Seattle, so Seattle,
Speaker 2: excuse me, Seattle ends up beating Denver, so Seattle gets
Speaker 2: the win. They're on the road here against New England.
Speaker 2: Now this was the survivor killer. Cincinnati looked like hot
Speaker 2: garbage from the beginning, and this is a Zach Taylor thing.
Speaker 2: We had some people who warned us about this, right
Speaker 2: They're like, hey, this is always Cincinnati's m Cincinnati three
Speaker 2: and out, three times to start the game. In that process,
Speaker 2: a remander went in from three to seven to nothing
Speaker 2: New England. By the way, Cincinnati then goes sixty five
Speaker 2: yards burrow to Gasiki for what looked like it would
Speaker 2: be touchdown from fifteen out to tie it at seven
Speaker 2: to seven, but no overturn. Kasicki bobbled it. Next play,
Speaker 2: third and eleven from the fifteen burrow to Tanner Hudson
Speaker 2: down the middle for thirteen of those yards. This is
Speaker 2: just like the Jacksonville play. Almost but he's hit by
Speaker 2: Kyle Dugger. He fumbles it forward to Marcus Jones and
Speaker 2: the survivor sphincter's tightened, and everybody knew at this point,
Speaker 2: by the way, if you had Cincinnati and Survivor, you
Speaker 2: kind of knew in your gut, You're like, this is
Speaker 2: not gonna happen. Sly field goal made it ten to
Speaker 2: nothing New England. By the half, they got it to
Speaker 2: thirteen to nothing after Charlie Jones fumbled. Jalen Hawkins recovers
Speaker 2: the third nothing on a slide thirty five yarder. Finally,
Speaker 2: then Cincinnati next drive, they're down thirteen to nothing. Fourth
Speaker 2: and two at the New England thirty six, they decided
Speaker 2: to go for it. They only get one yard stop.
Speaker 2: So everything that they everything that could have gone wrong
Speaker 2: did in this game. Finally, after another Pats three and out,
Speaker 2: Cincinnati does get to the house ninety yard drive, finishing
Speaker 2: with Zach mosson from five. So it's thirteen to seven
Speaker 2: New England, one ten left in the third quarter. Did
Speaker 2: you even think Cincinnati had a shot at this? I
Speaker 2: still didn't. Okay, overall, no, Gil, but I do think
Speaker 2: Joe Burrows special enough that when he got the ball
Speaker 2: back with one last chance and only down six, I
Speaker 2: was not counting about the trade field goals sixteen to ten.
Speaker 2: And what you're talking about, Kelly, is that Cincinnati ends
Speaker 2: up with the football at their own ten with three
Speaker 2: or four left, down six. They only manage five yards
Speaker 2: on three downs, and they decide to punt on fourth
Speaker 2: and five at their own at their own fifteen, with
Speaker 2: two twenty six left in this game, in a full
Speaker 2: allotment of timeouts, and to him in a warning, Remandre
Speaker 2: for five, timeout, Esmre for nine, first down, two minute warning,
Speaker 2: Remandre for three, Remandre for nine, first down. Ball game.
Speaker 2: Oh it's over, It's over, Bersett fifteen of twenty four
Speaker 2: for one to twenty one. The Bengals had no life
Speaker 2: in them. They only gained two hundred and twenty four yards.
Speaker 2: Good for Aaron shots. In terms of off season calls,
Speaker 2: New England, they aren't gonna be the last winless. They're
Speaker 2: one to Oh yeah, that's already a future ticket lost
Speaker 2: for me, Patriots. I'll say Seattle minus four on the
Speaker 2: road at New England. Okay, you are it is three open, three,
Speaker 2: but it is heading your way a couple three and
Speaker 2: a half's in the market right now, three and a
Speaker 2: half over at DraftKings and a lot of juiced threes
Speaker 2: on Seattle. This was the one I did bring up
Speaker 2: last week. I bet on the look ahead of Seattle
Speaker 2: laying three. So think about Patriots win in this number,
Speaker 2: still only getting bigger, squeezing one more. Yeah, Giants at
Speaker 2: Commander Sunday, early win, all right, we talked about both
Speaker 2: of these games. Giants at Washington. This has to be three, right,
Speaker 2: this was it is down to two and a half
Speaker 2: two for the Commanders. That's just like it's just like
Speaker 2: the opposite of the mike, Like, is that less than three?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think this opened three. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can tell you what the reason is that the
Speaker 2: Washington I guess the market things Washington defense is so
Speaker 2: so so bad that they deserve to be less than
Speaker 2: a three point favorite. But I would this, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's Washington or nothing. I also feel like Week two, Yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of this, A lot of places this open three.
Speaker 2: So yeah, took down at two and a half two.
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones twenty two of forty two for one eighty six.
Speaker 2: He was sacked five times. Jaydon Daniels, by the way,
Speaker 2: seventeen of twenty four for one eighty four, sacked twice
Speaker 2: sixteen for eighty eight. Two touchdowns on the ground, so
Speaker 2: at least he had the willingness to run. But none.
Speaker 2: None of the rookie quarterbacks were great, but he might
Speaker 2: have been the best of the bunch. Guessing lines. Week
Speaker 2: two continues on the other side, numbers game at Vison.
Speaker 2: The numbers told the story always doing It's along those
Speaker 2: idiots will believe in analytics.
Speaker 1: This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander.
Speaker 2: Hour number two, but numbers game of Vson, the sports
Speaker 2: betting network, Visa dot Com game plus iHeartRadio YouTube TV. However,
Speaker 2: you're taking us in. We appreciated very much. It's Gil Alexander.
Speaker 2: Kelly Biddlin is here as well, produced at number nine,
Speaker 2: so much more than a producer. Year number fourteen of
Speaker 2: guessing lines. We get tweets and we get texts. Can
Speaker 2: I read the Can I read just a couple of texts?
Speaker 2: Real quick?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Go ahead? This is from Sorry, I have not been
Speaker 2: seeing all the tweets come in. I don't get a million,
Speaker 2: oh we get a million home. Sorry. This is from
Speaker 2: Tim Lawson, who says one hundred percent people have lives.
Speaker 2: We don't forget because this is our favorite hobby. We
Speaker 2: live it. I have forgotten more important things due to
Speaker 2: family priorities. I'm never surprised that people miss the deadline.
Speaker 2: I am. I must be Tim and Iron must be
Speaker 2: in the minority on this because I am not nearly
Speaker 2: a surprise to some people. People just that first Saturday
Speaker 2: of the year, and I know what happens throughout the
Speaker 2: year that people forget. That's more surprising to me. Like
Speaker 2: if you're still alive in week eight and you're forgetting that,
Speaker 2: I I'm with you on but week one, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2: But I think week one's more than you just signed
Speaker 2: up for it. Not if you didn't just sign up
Speaker 2: for it, maybe you signed up. If Steve Fezick wants
Speaker 2: to chime in on the Bills Miami, my incredulity on
Speaker 2: the Bills Miami line, he said, Bills in Miami, we're
Speaker 2: both season win ten teams, both were two to one
Speaker 2: to win the division, two equal teams. Miami gets that
Speaker 2: great home field advantage because of the sun on the visitors.
Speaker 2: So this being a night game helps Buffalo. No sun
Speaker 2: and it won't be as hot. Still doesn't explain why
Speaker 2: it's less than three, Stevie, Sorry, just doesn't Sorry about that.
Speaker 2: This is from This is from Twitter. Now we get
Speaker 2: tweets at beating the book. Always appreciate the f feedback.
Speaker 2: This is from just to follow vis and I agree
Speaker 2: with you in advance. Oh this is before I did
Speaker 2: the Colts thing. He goes Anthony Richards and Kelly showed
Speaker 2: some real MVP potential. Now Gil will probably be the
Speaker 2: voice of reason aka hater when you get to the Colts.
Speaker 2: But we know what's up Birdie. As with Steve, he says,
Speaker 2: check out first half Bills defense versus second half Bills defense.
Speaker 2: Bills imploded on offense the whole game and still scored
Speaker 2: at will. This is Arizona stinks, And he says I
Speaker 2: would go back and dive in again. You may change
Speaker 2: your mind. Your mind a bit, good friend. Chillionaire still
Speaker 2: thinks Austin Wells should win AL Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 2: That's all different subject. Jesse Welch. I'm still waiting, Oh Jesse,
Speaker 2: I said this all day yesterday. He goes, I'm still
Speaker 2: waiting for somebody to point me to where can I cash,
Speaker 2: to where I can cash my Stroud first overall pick tickets,
Speaker 2: because it's still blatantly obvious that he should have been
Speaker 2: taken first. Of all the bets we've lost, that's the
Speaker 2: one that still kills me the most. How do you
Speaker 2: draft Bryce Young? Especially when you're like, you see that
Speaker 2: game yesterday and you're like, all right, everybody's been talking
Speaker 2: about let's see Bryce Young take one step forward. Nope,
Speaker 2: not for anyone landing on this just now and you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: like you knew Bryce Young would suck? Yeah, we kind
Speaker 2: of did. We thought c J. Strout would be the
Speaker 2: numb one picking the game. Oh I even though it
Speaker 2: was that it was just it was very much Stroud
Speaker 2: looked like a more tame I just don't know what
Speaker 2: happened between the college football season and the draft to
Speaker 2: make people think that anyway. Brandon Kyle's on the topic
Speaker 2: of impressive field goal kicking the Steelers broadcast drop this nugget.
Speaker 2: Chris Boswell holds the NFL record for field goal percentage
Speaker 2: from fifty plus. Might this account for the Steelers overachieving
Speaker 2: in recent years, at least in part? Absolutely, that's a
Speaker 2: great point scored every point for me. Jordan Pagel, Green
Speaker 2: Bay Here, You're exactly right, Gil. Until the Love injury,
Speaker 2: I had very little concerns about what I saw from
Speaker 2: the past. Some things to improve on, but overall, really
Speaker 2: good performance against one of the NFC's top teams. And
Speaker 2: then Mark Geiger, he's with me. I'm old, cnecal and
Speaker 2: accused of having early stage dementia. Okay, Mark, maybe we're
Speaker 2: not the same. Still, only forty five no shows out
Speaker 2: of a population of over fourteen thousand is low. I
Speaker 2: would have expected at least one percent would have failed
Speaker 2: to get an entry in too many distractions in this
Speaker 2: crazy word, oh, in this crazy world, and Buddhist man
Speaker 2: does that, he goes gil. I think ill advised Billy
Speaker 2: Levi's as a real chance to stick as a nickname.
Speaker 2: Reminds me of that old SNL skit bad idea jeans
Speaker 2: ill advised What's next? Well, as I said earlier, what's next,
Speaker 2: I let's go staying in the early window. Chargers at
Speaker 2: those great Carolina Panthers Chargers. Okay, let's pick. Oh I
Speaker 2: got so much to say here, Oh Antonio Pierce, I
Speaker 2: know we live in the same building, but good God
Speaker 2: has some words for him. Seven to six Raiders at
Speaker 2: the half. By the way, seven is six because you know,
Speaker 2: Minshew was sacked and he fumbled, basically threw the ball
Speaker 2: backwards Khalil Mack return of twenty two yards you know.
Speaker 2: So that yeah, and the Chargers couldn't do anything with it,
Speaker 2: by the way, afterwards, so they had to settle for
Speaker 2: a Dicker twenty five yard field goal. So it's seven
Speaker 2: and six. We're in the second half, Vegas three and out.
Speaker 2: Chargers then set up by a JK. Dobbins forty six
Speaker 2: yard scamper to the seven. They have to settle for
Speaker 2: another Dicker twenty four yard chip shot. Nine to seven Chargers.
Speaker 2: They take the lead nine to oh eight left in
Speaker 2: the third quarter, Las Vegas Raiders first in fourteen at
Speaker 2: their own forty five. Next drives a mere white hit
Speaker 2: by Joey Bosa. He fumbles just hear Taylor recovers Chargers
Speaker 2: three and out, though Carlson then misses a forty nine
Speaker 2: yard field goal, one of the rare misses on Sunday.
Speaker 2: By the way, Kate York missed two for Washington. Here
Speaker 2: we go, Kate, yeah, we didn't bother mentioning that. Chargers
Speaker 2: then go sixty one yards. Dobbins in from twelve first play,
Speaker 2: fourth quarter after the missfield goal, sixteen to seven Chargers,
Speaker 2: so the Chargers have some room. And then after a
Speaker 2: Carlson thirty two yard field goal on fourth and one
Speaker 2: from the Chargers fourteen. Okay, let's start here. Antonio appears
Speaker 2: in my humble opinion, how much time made not one,
Speaker 2: not two, but three just absolutely strange, odd and downright
Speaker 2: wrong decisions in this game. So let's just start. Let
Speaker 2: me let me repeat this. So it's sixteen to seven Chargers.
Speaker 2: The Raiders get it to fourth and one at the
Speaker 2: Chargers fourteen down nine, we're in the we are in
Speaker 2: the what are we in right here? Do to do?
Speaker 2: We're in the fourth quarter? He decides to kick the
Speaker 2: field goal. One yard is what it is. He kicks
Speaker 2: the field goal to make it sixteen to ten. That's
Speaker 2: error number one. Yeah, you only need one are nine? Okay,
Speaker 2: that's bad enough already. Then, after a Chargers three and out,
Speaker 2: Las Vegas on their ensuing drive, has fourth and one
Speaker 2: at the Chargers forty three, down six with seven fifteen
Speaker 2: to go, and Antonio Pierce decides the punt? Do we
Speaker 2: have that? Uh? Do we have that?
Speaker 3: Barnwell?
Speaker 2: Bill Barnwell sweep by the way, this is Bill Barnwell
Speaker 2: on this subject, because you know, if you're wondering, hey
Speaker 2: am I crazy? This is going on? Bill Barnwell pretty
Speaker 2: shocked by this one. This punt has basically gone out
Speaker 2: of the game trailing by one touchdown or less. On
Speaker 2: fourth and one from the opponent's forty to forty nine
Speaker 2: yard line, teams have gone forward sixty three out of
Speaker 2: sixty four times over the last five years. Well, Antonio
Speaker 2: Bierce decided, Hey, remember that fourth and one at the
Speaker 2: eleven that I decided to kick the field on? How
Speaker 2: about this? And he punts again. I saw I saw
Speaker 2: even a different stat on this going further back. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was the distance, but it was
Speaker 2: actually slightly different than what Barnwell had five plays in.
Speaker 2: By the way, Dobbins goes for sixty one yards and
Speaker 2: it kind of serves Pierce right. And this is where
Speaker 2: and this is by the way, Kelly is where he
Speaker 2: decides to use his three timeouts starting at the three
Speaker 2: point fifty seven mark, which is another thing you don't do.
Speaker 2: You don't use him that early. Three plays later, right
Speaker 2: after he uses their third and final one, Herbert to
Speaker 2: Laddin mccaky for ten. Katie bar the door. It's over.
Speaker 2: Mccaky avoid two tackles. By the way, on the play,
Speaker 2: nice job, twenty two to ten. The two point try
Speaker 2: fails with three forty to go, but a Minshew pick
Speaker 2: by poona Ford was all that was left before was over.
Speaker 2: Chargers win again. This is the thing with doing guessing
Speaker 2: lines and trying to extract value. I don't think the
Speaker 2: Chargers are any good. I just think the Raiders were worse,
Speaker 2: and Antonio Piers has a lot to do with that.
Speaker 2: Yesterday and they're at and the Chargers are where at Carolina?
Speaker 2: You said who we were talking about? By the way.
Speaker 2: Bryce Young's final stats yesterday for Carolina against the Saints
Speaker 2: thirteen of thirty for one sixty one, no touchdowns, two picks,
Speaker 2: four sacks, four carries for twelve hours in a touchdown.
Speaker 2: Carolina was outgained by New Orleans three seventy nine to
Speaker 2: one ninety three, one eighty to fifty eight on the ground.
Speaker 2: They were one of ten on third down. It's bad,
Speaker 2: one of three on fourth. Chargers by three on the road,
Speaker 2: because what else should it be. The Chargers could be
Speaker 2: two to zero by the way, the humans of the
Speaker 2: world by the Charger's over. This could be a great
Speaker 2: start for them, and they suck. Yeah, because they have
Speaker 2: no players on offense. Oh, I know, I'm with you, no,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean I told you last week I
Speaker 2: ended up betting that season win total under I'm not
Speaker 2: a believer in this team all long term for this season.
Speaker 2: I think everybody's excited about horrorball, but it's just so
Speaker 2: to get hard to put it together in this first season.
Speaker 2: You are off on this game. I still don't think
Speaker 2: you'll bet it. But Chargers five and a half was
Speaker 2: the opener. We're out to six now most places six
Speaker 2: point road favorite. That is you got to go to
Speaker 2: if that's way too many points, I way too many points,
Speaker 2: because it's as bad as Carolina is. The Chargers are
Speaker 2: not good at football either. It doesn't appear. But I
Speaker 2: do not have the onions either. I do not have
Speaker 2: the onions. This is the other thing about the show.
Speaker 2: It's one thing to extract value. It's another thing to
Speaker 2: actually then go to the window and make a bet.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I can do it. I don't
Speaker 2: know that I can. Okay, here's a better question. At
Speaker 2: what point would it have to get to seven? Would
Speaker 2: you bet it at a full seven? I think I
Speaker 2: would at a full set? What is it five and
Speaker 2: a half? You're saying, well, it has to get the
Speaker 2: sixth to consider it sixes. But I mean, there was
Speaker 2: nothing about the Chargers yesterday that was any good. I mean,
Speaker 2: second half Russian performance was pretty good, but well it
Speaker 2: was two big plays. I'm with you, like, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: hard to again, it's with looks like the Anthony Richards.
Speaker 2: The thing, it's hard to know if if the explosive
Speaker 2: plays are sustainable. It's what Aaron shots always says if
Speaker 2: you move the chains, that's a better indicator than one
Speaker 2: big you know, play like that. So yes, value, But
Speaker 2: do I have the cojones? I do not. Yeah, what's
Speaker 2: next thing? Either Brown's at jagged still early we talked
Speaker 2: about both of these. The Browns just get absolutely crushed
Speaker 2: by Dallas and Deshaun Watson was twenty four or forty
Speaker 2: five for one sixty nine. He was sacked six times.
Speaker 2: He did have five carries for thirty nine yards. I
Speaker 2: don't know how much of that game was DeShawn is
Speaker 2: not the player that he once was with all of
Speaker 2: the absence, or that the Cowboys defense is just so
Speaker 2: good that it made him look that way. And offensive
Speaker 2: line troubles for offense, civil line troubles, but he I mean,
Speaker 2: it was just a disaster. And then Trevor Lawrence at
Speaker 2: some point though, he's got to show something, right, like
Speaker 2: we're at that point. Trevor Lawrence twelve of twenty one.
Speaker 2: He only completed twelve forward passes against Miami yesterday for
Speaker 2: one sixty two. And Jacksonville to me is becoming the
Speaker 2: Chargers of all. Remember how we always just say when
Speaker 2: the Chargers were stacked with players like they always figure
Speaker 2: out a way to lose. Jacksonville's kind of becoming that
Speaker 2: team that is a great compy kind of becoming that team.
Speaker 2: I will say Jacksonville by three because I don't know
Speaker 2: what else to make it, because Cleveland could be awesome,
Speaker 2: you know, still if it all works out, but I
Speaker 2: don't know yet. It is Jags three. Looks like they
Speaker 2: are taking a little bit of money this morning, but
Speaker 2: we're still three and a half. A DraftKings but three
Speaker 2: pretty much everywhere else, some of those juiced, Yeah, we
Speaker 2: do a thing on the megapod called the Dumbo of
Speaker 2: the Week because we're those kind of people, and Todd
Speaker 2: Todd name it and it's gonna be Antonio. I mean,
Speaker 2: there were other strange coaching decisions that Antonio Peers is
Speaker 2: the absolute winner this week. I don't like, I don't
Speaker 2: know how to feel about that with like some of
Speaker 2: those coaches, right, He's he's a coach who doesn't have
Speaker 2: as much experience as a lot of his other counterparts.
Speaker 2: Someone on there's got to be someone on staff to
Speaker 2: grab him and be like, what do I say to
Speaker 2: him if I run into him at the building? What
Speaker 2: do I say to him. You live with him, man,
Speaker 2: He's just like, Hey, coach, coach, I think I can
Speaker 2: work up the nerve to ever be like coach. Let's
Speaker 2: talk about your decisions to that guy. More Guessing lines
Speaker 2: looking for value on a numbers gave it Visa these
Speaker 2: Sports Betting Network numbers game on Sports Betting Network Guessing Lines,
Speaker 2: Week fourteen of the National Football League ats Gill Alexander.
Speaker 2: It is Kelly Bidlin. It's a numbers game right here
Speaker 2: at Vison. Would you like to say, what's happening with
Speaker 2: the Miami line. It's moving towards three. We are two
Speaker 2: and a half pretty much everywhere now, even a couple
Speaker 2: two and a half's juiced up. So yeah, it's a Michelle.
Speaker 2: It's a sugana that it's less than three. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Kelly?
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I agree.
Speaker 2: I thought that was going to be a full three.
Speaker 2: I was surprised to see it short of it. I
Speaker 2: also don't I don't know. I liked I liked the
Speaker 2: bills enough I didn't bet it, though. I didn't bet
Speaker 2: it yesterday. There were ones and one and a half
Speaker 2: out there yesterday after evening. How much, by the way,
Speaker 2: how much money have I left on the table over
Speaker 2: the years because I stay in the cocoon and can't
Speaker 2: bet Sunday. Oh, it's incredible. There was a couple this
Speaker 2: week that I bet that. I then I saw you
Speaker 2: Gil's guesses and I was like, Chrissy. Chrissy used to
Speaker 2: used to not post the numbers at the south end
Speaker 2: until we did. Guess how much money have you left
Speaker 2: on the table? How much money is he left on
Speaker 2: the table because he was nice, nice enough to do
Speaker 2: that for years? Absolutely right, Jeremia, we get tweets of
Speaker 2: being the book. Jeremiah Westgate. I watched only the Colts
Speaker 2: game at one pm. It absolutely was competitive. Richardson is
Speaker 2: woefully inaccurate, but he can run and extend plays with
Speaker 2: The difference was Stroud extending plays. Colts had Stroud sacked
Speaker 2: and off the field on three different third down series.
Speaker 2: Jeremiah's kind of what I was saying Stroud is just unbelievable.
Speaker 2: And I didn't say that obviously that game itself was competitive.
Speaker 2: The est is can the Colts mean? Can they continue
Speaker 2: to be competitive in those kind of games? Getting these
Speaker 2: big explosive plays as opposed to being consistent? I think
Speaker 2: they're going to rely on it. I think the what
Speaker 2: difference is when they get up. They're a team that's
Speaker 2: going to play very different when they're behind and when
Speaker 2: they're ahead, right, You're going to see them lean on
Speaker 2: that running game with Jonathan Taylor way more when they're
Speaker 2: actually ahead. Michael Burns, there should be a new condo
Speaker 2: on the market, and you're building today talking about my
Speaker 2: neighbor Jamie Leva. Someone needs to interview Slash write a
Speaker 2: book about the people who do not make a pick
Speaker 2: in these contests. I'm fascinated by this. We need this documentary. Also,
Speaker 2: you guys are on the wrong side of the desk.
Speaker 2: Have a great day, gentlemen, New Jersey, New York. No joke.
Speaker 2: I woke up this morning thinking I had to work
Speaker 2: for God. I was off. Probably has something to do
Speaker 2: with attending the Vikings Giants yesterday. So yeah, I can
Speaker 2: absolutely see how someone forgets to put in an entry
Speaker 2: for one thousand dollars contest in week one. Eric B.
Speaker 2: Not that Eric B. Maybe it is that Eric B.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's next to rock him right now. I spent
Speaker 2: about three hours analyzing and placing my bets yesterday morning.
Speaker 2: Completely forgot to look at my fantasy lineup. So there
Speaker 2: you go, Joe Abraham, I'm with you. Love the Chargers.
Speaker 2: No on making the playoffs at plus one fifteen at
Speaker 2: DK total overreaction to Harball beating a terrible team. Oh Low,
Speaker 2: couldn't agree more. That's a good tweet right there. Let's
Speaker 2: see Lawrence Anderson, life gets in the way. Last Man
Speaker 2: Standing twenty twenty four at National NCAA tournament made it
Speaker 2: to the final eight. Go Forward Strategy alternate Perduing Yukon
Speaker 2: rushed to hospital how to sten put an artery, gave
Speaker 2: my wife full instructions of how to put the pick in. Yes,
Speaker 2: because Lawrence, you were deep into it and you were
Speaker 2: going to try to win money. Then I get it.
Speaker 2: Then you'd be crazy to forget stend or not. But
Speaker 2: week one I kind of get it. And then see priorities.
Speaker 2: It's all about priority. Landed with Roger Jones, who says, guys,
Speaker 2: I've heard enough. It's next man up. The Raiders were
Speaker 2: playing tough for Pierce, but it's time to see what
Speaker 2: Delicious has to offer. All the inside jokes, what's.
Speaker 3: Last early window game?
Speaker 2: I'm excited to talk about this one. Raiders at Ravens.
Speaker 2: All right, Raiders we talked about by the way, Gardner
Speaker 2: Minshew was twenty five of thirty three and the Raiders
Speaker 2: lost to the Chargers for two fifty seven to one touchdown,
Speaker 2: one pick. He was sacked four times, he did lose
Speaker 2: a fumble, and the Raiders were minus three and turnovers
Speaker 2: in that game. Baltimore, we talked about the Baltimore Kansas
Speaker 2: City game on Friday, so no need to really rehash
Speaker 2: it here other than I still feel great about Baltimore.
Speaker 2: I think I still think they're going a leaf football team,
Speaker 2: and I think the Raiders are bad. I said, Baltimore
Speaker 2: minus ten. Oh, you're a lot closer to where to
Speaker 2: where the numbers at now. Gild is nine and a half.
Speaker 2: It opened at eight. I bet the Ravens at eight
Speaker 2: teas for I asked the guys for a counter first time.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say this this year teaser leg of
Speaker 2: the year. I'm going to say that probably fifteen more times.
Speaker 2: But you know, at nine and a half, it's kind
Speaker 2: of out of range now and people should know how
Speaker 2: we do this. I send you what my guesses are
Speaker 2: last night, yes, Saturday night, so you I'm sitting there
Speaker 2: betting Ravens eight while I'm seeing Gil thinking this is
Speaker 2: going to be nine and a half, knowing he would
Speaker 2: probably like to make the same bet I'm making right now,
Speaker 2: and I can't tell him because we do that for
Speaker 2: the show. It's the worst, so you could get yes.
Speaker 2: I would absolutely just to cou. I think this is
Speaker 2: one of the games. This is one of these games
Speaker 2: where the Ravens could win by thirty two extra rest.
Speaker 2: You're coming back off of that, going back home off
Speaker 2: of that loss. I think it sets up perfectly for them.
Speaker 2: By the way, another game where there was just a
Speaker 2: bevy of you know, penalties called thirteen. In these games combined,
Speaker 2: there's so many penalties called what's next? All right? We
Speaker 2: are at four h five Eastern time, Rams at Cardinals.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that Rams loss yesterday. The Rams were gassed
Speaker 2: in overtime. I mean, they just got gashed, but they Boy,
Speaker 2: the NFL will get you with some of these. There's
Speaker 2: so many positives to take away from the Rams. There's
Speaker 2: so many injuries, injuries. I know, the fact that they
Speaker 2: were able to scheme their way to being competitive last
Speaker 2: night and actually taking a lead and looking like they
Speaker 2: were gonna win and then just got run over in overtime.
Speaker 2: They're at Arizona. Stafford thirty four of forty nine for
Speaker 2: three seventeen a Cup fourteen for one, ten and a touchdown.
Speaker 2: He was targeted twenty one times. Mike Tarico revealing that
Speaker 2: both Stafford and Cup have breakfast together the single morning
Speaker 2: in their cult the sack, I thought it was at
Speaker 2: the team facility. Do we know it's in the cul
Speaker 2: a sack. We don't know if it's the culd DE sack.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to point joh McVay just wanted to
Speaker 2: point out that they all live in the same cul
Speaker 2: a sack, along with Sean McVay. And guess who else
Speaker 2: doesn't live in that culd A sack, Pooka Akua, because
Speaker 2: they obviously in these breakfasts they ice out Pooka. Anyway,
Speaker 2: poor Pooka's hurt. I don't know what the extent of
Speaker 2: the knee injury is. And then Kyler Murray and the
Speaker 2: Cardinals lose to the Buffalo Bills. Murray was twenty one
Speaker 2: of thirty one for one sixty two, one touchdown. Pasey
Speaker 2: was sacked four times five or fifty seven on the ground,
Speaker 2: but a fumble loss. This is the one guess from
Speaker 2: last night that I look at now and I'm like,
Speaker 2: did I really guess this? I only had the Rams
Speaker 2: as a one and a half point road favorite, so
Speaker 2: I guess I'll stick with that. Now you're pretty much
Speaker 2: dead on. There was a lot of movement that got
Speaker 2: taken down during the game, like some of these times
Speaker 2: it with some of these lines due, but then also
Speaker 2: remained down for a bit after, you know, for the
Speaker 2: Pooka news to come come out and see where we're at.
Speaker 2: It is Rams one, one and a half right now,
Speaker 2: one and a half over at DraftKings has come down.
Speaker 2: You saw we punched this in even this morning. Was
Speaker 2: it was at two and a half in DraftKings at
Speaker 2: that point I did. I was able to get in
Speaker 2: a teaser Ravens and Ravens and Cardinals when this was
Speaker 2: still this was two. I think it was for me.
Speaker 2: I mentioned that Marvin Harrison Junior was wide open on
Speaker 2: the last drive where Cardinals could have potentially beaten the Bills.
Speaker 2: Can we show this tweet? We got a couple about
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison one it's the stats on it. On his targets,
Speaker 2: he ended up catching. He ended up being targeted in
Speaker 2: this game. Not only was he just completely ignored on
Speaker 2: that one play late in the game, but he only
Speaker 2: had four total targets in this game. Four total targets.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we have that guy. There is
Speaker 2: fifty four snaps. This from Mike clay over at ESPN
Speaker 2: Mike clay NFL fifty four snaps, Actually not at ESPN anymore.
Speaker 2: Fifty four snaps, thirty three roots, three targets, one catch,
Speaker 2: four yards. Marvin Harrison Junior. What are we doing? What
Speaker 2: was that game plan? Yeah? I don't know, I mean
Speaker 2: there was if there were some missues. Can we show
Speaker 2: the still shot of how wide open he was on
Speaker 2: that one point on this other? Oh, you don't have that. Okay,
Speaker 2: wide open, completely missed at the end. Anyway, if you've
Speaker 2: seen any highlights, so you've seen it, it is, and we're
Speaker 2: running wide open down the field. Rams by one and
Speaker 2: a half is what it was in fact. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: one one and a half. Okay, what's next? All right?
Speaker 2: Next up, we have Kelly's lost his place Steelers at
Speaker 2: the Broncos four twenty five Eastern Steelers at the Broncos. Oh, look,
Speaker 2: we're ahead now Pittsburgh and Atlanta. Mike Tomlin, Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you've heard of this det I
Speaker 2: won't say it. Teams trade field goals young heykup from
Speaker 2: twenty four for Atlanta, then Boswell from fifty seven jeez,
Speaker 2: three to three. Second place. Subsequent drive Cousins picked by
Speaker 2: Deshaun Elliott after ten after a ten play eighteen yard
Speaker 2: drive that took six minutes and eight seconds. Let me
Speaker 2: repeat that is impressed. This is your Pittsburgh Steelers. After
Speaker 2: a ten play eighteen yard drive for six o eight
Speaker 2: Literally you have to look this up to believe it.
Speaker 2: They get a Boswell fifty one yard field go six
Speaker 2: to three. Pittsburgh. Cousins then has a good drive. He
Speaker 2: was seven for seven on a drive, including to Pits
Speaker 2: from twelve out touchdown. Atlanta took their lead ten to six.
Speaker 2: They're one lead of this game that when they had
Speaker 2: ten points. It was ten to nine at the half
Speaker 2: because Boswell hit a forty four yarder. Then third quarter,
Speaker 2: after Pittsburgh three and out, Atlanta converts a fourth and
Speaker 2: one at the Pittsburgh forty two on a bijon ten
Speaker 2: yard game. Next play, Stap hits the motion man TJ.
Speaker 2: Watt recovers that leads to a Boswell fifty six yarder
Speaker 2: twelve to ten Pittsburgh seven forty five left third quarter.
Speaker 2: Boswell would add a forty yarder to make it fifteen
Speaker 2: to ten, and then Boswell punts later in the game
Speaker 2: forty three yard punt by the way, second play ensuing
Speaker 2: drive first and ten of the Pittsburgh forty seven Cousins throws
Speaker 2: laid picked by Dante Jackson because of course, Cousins throws
Speaker 2: laid Dante Jackson returns at forty nine yards that sets
Speaker 2: up a Boswell twenty five yard chip shot Katie bar
Speaker 2: the door ball game, Pittsburgh beats Atlanta eighteen to ten
Speaker 2: on six count them six Chris Boswell kicks Chris Boswell
Speaker 2: field goals one from fifty seven, one from fifty six,
Speaker 2: one from fifty one. That guy is good at football,
Speaker 2: kicking fourteen total penalties in this game as well. And
Speaker 2: by the way, Aaron Shotts deserves a shout right he
Speaker 2: didn't like Atlanta that much as much as most people did.
Speaker 2: And by the way, I still think Pittsburgh's gonna go
Speaker 2: under their season win total. But they do have a
Speaker 2: quintessential Pittsburgh Steelers Mike Tomlin steel a football game kind
Speaker 2: of game. So good on them. And then Denver, we
Speaker 2: talked about losing to Seattle. Let me just say this
Speaker 2: about bo Nicks twenty six of forty two for one
Speaker 2: thirty eight. Let me repeat that, twenty six completions at
Speaker 2: a forty two attempts for one thirty eight. I'll do
Speaker 2: the math for Youoo three point three yards per attempt.
Speaker 2: So you mean he's exactly the quarterback we remember him
Speaker 2: to be at Oregon. Huh, surprise. You do. Don't understand
Speaker 2: why this kid was Why was he coordinated in the
Speaker 2: NFL when he was like twelve Pittsburgh at Denver, I said,
Speaker 2: pick them. I didn't know what else to make this.
Speaker 2: This is the Steelers as a two and a half
Speaker 2: to three point load favorite. That's aggressive, but I kind
Speaker 2: of get it. I do. I do try to get it,
Speaker 2: but it is aggressive.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just can't well from what I saw a pontextual
Speaker 2: Actually I cannot keep finding this Broaders team right now.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I could make some showing Payton remarks right now,
Speaker 2: but I think better of it. We'll come back more
Speaker 2: games to get to next.
Speaker 1: Numbers game on these Sports Vetting Network.
Speaker 2: Guessing lines Week two National Football League. The year is
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four started doing guessing lines and twenty eleven
Speaker 2: fourteen seasons. Maybe I know you people are like, were
Speaker 2: there podcasts in twenty eleven?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: There was one when I was wearing my underwear and
Speaker 2: nothing else. Is there a sports game bar podcast in
Speaker 2: twenty eleven? I think it was just me and Milman,
Speaker 2: Me and Chad Milman over at the ESPN. Okay, we
Speaker 2: have a few more games get to and then I
Speaker 2: also want to get to just okay, so the recap
Speaker 2: of which which we like, and then just sort of
Speaker 2: macro thoughts on week one and then a little bit
Speaker 2: about the Jets and the Niners tonight. What do we
Speaker 2: have left here? What's next? Yeah? Next up? We have
Speaker 2: Bengals at the Chiefs for twenty five Eastern or twenty
Speaker 2: five Easter. Ooh, Bengals at Chiefs. All right, on paper,
Speaker 2: this looked to be like a great game. Maybe it
Speaker 2: still will be because Burrow is the sort of Chiefs killer.
Speaker 2: Burrow in that loss to the Patriots was twenty one
Speaker 2: of twenty nine for one sixty four, no touchdowns, no picks,
Speaker 2: He was sacked three times, only two hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: four total yards of offense for the Bengals minus two
Speaker 2: and turnovers. And then Patrick Mahomes against the Ravens on
Speaker 2: Thursday twenty of twenty eight for two ninety one, one touchdown,
Speaker 2: one pick, sack twice rice seven for one oh three worthy,
Speaker 2: one for twenty one in a touchdown to that was
Speaker 2: that was on the ground, two catches for forty seven
Speaker 2: in a touchdown. Kansas City minus six based on what
Speaker 2: we saw yesterday, yep, dead on that is thanks. We
Speaker 2: have one five and a half out there. Now we
Speaker 2: do have one five and a half I see, but
Speaker 2: it's been pretty much all sixes on that game. All right,
Speaker 2: Sunday night, all right, Sunday night football. We have the
Speaker 2: Bears at the Texans. Well, we didn't get to really
Speaker 2: talk about Caleb Williams because we were rushing through the
Speaker 2: Tennessee Chicago game and just how unbelievable, unbelievably ridiculous that
Speaker 2: win was for the Chicago Bears. If you were a
Speaker 2: Tennessee backer, you just have to shake your head on that.
Speaker 2: Todd I wish to have had the under team total
Speaker 2: on the Bears. Oh no, just got he was nineteen
Speaker 2: and a half whatever. Just destroyed on that Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2: The whole time I'm watching this game, I kept thinking
Speaker 2: about our buddy. Merril Hodges comments on Caleb Williams when
Speaker 2: he was on the show, and he famously said about
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, I remember Caleb Williams. This was pre draft
Speaker 2: when we had him on Sue. Caleb Williams was the
Speaker 2: presumptive number one pick, which he ended up being, and
Speaker 2: Merril Hodge came on the show and said he's nothing special.
Speaker 2: His opinion said, he's nothing special. Well, after preseason, a
Speaker 2: preseason where he was not very accurate and made the
Speaker 2: occasional unbelievable throw which sort of was tantalizing enough for
Speaker 2: people to be like, oh, Caleb Williams, because still makes
Speaker 2: these great throws. He ends up throwing yesterday for ninety
Speaker 2: three yards against the Titans, fourteen of twenty nine for
Speaker 2: ninety three yards. Now he won't be the first you know,
Speaker 2: highly touted prospect nor number one pick even that had
Speaker 2: a terrible first game. John Elway famously, I think threw
Speaker 2: for fourteen yards his first game in the NFL. Worked
Speaker 2: out pretty well for him in his career. But Caleb
Speaker 2: Williams fourteen of twenty nine for ninety three. The Bears
Speaker 2: were held to eleven first downs one hundred and forty
Speaker 2: eight total yards, but they were plus two in turnovers
Speaker 2: Punk Block for a touchdown pick six, and so they
Speaker 2: win the game against Tennessee. It'll advised Billy Leopi is
Speaker 2: having a lot to do with that. Fifteen penalties, by
Speaker 2: the way, called in this game for one hundred five
Speaker 2: yards as well. Just so many penalties in all these games.
Speaker 2: And then there's Houston, and we talked about they beat
Speaker 2: They outlast the Colts. Stroud twenty four of thirty two
Speaker 2: for two thirty four, two touchdowns, no picks. He was
Speaker 2: sacked four times, mixing thirty for one point fifty nine
Speaker 2: and a touchdown on the ground, Nico Collins six for
Speaker 2: one seventeen. Houston out gained Indy four seventeen to three
Speaker 2: oh three, two thirteen to one oh four on the
Speaker 2: ground and doubled them up in time of possession. As
Speaker 2: we talk is Joe Mixon always not worn gloves. That
Speaker 2: stuck out to me yesterday and I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It wasn't wearing.
Speaker 2: Gloves, and I was like, this feels weird. But I
Speaker 2: don't know for sure that he did before Houston seven
Speaker 2: and a half point favorites. They gotta be more than
Speaker 2: seven against Chicago, they gotta be more than seven, right,
Speaker 2: kill yes, six and a half. Interesting, I give me
Speaker 2: a I bet a lot of Texans interesting. I just said, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: you know what the problem is in the Ravens. I knew.
Speaker 3: I'm lucky. I'm glad you didn't.
Speaker 2: Miss out on this one because there's six six and
Speaker 2: a half still the here, here is the uh, here's
Speaker 2: the problem with all the ones I like this week.
Speaker 2: They're all favorites. Yeah, big favorites in week two of
Speaker 2: the Yeah, I hear, I don't like it. All right,
Speaker 2: that was Sunday night. I don't care those two. I'm
Speaker 2: still betting. I know which Chicago at Houston is the
Speaker 2: Sunday night game sun because we want to put Caleb
Speaker 2: Williams on TV as much as possible. That's what is okay,
Speaker 2: first prime time game on the road, all right, Monday
Speaker 2: Night football Falcons at Eagles lost in that eighteen to
Speaker 2: ten loss by the Falcons, the presumptive NFC South juggernaut
Speaker 2: that they're supposed to be lost in their eighteen to
Speaker 2: ten loss against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Is the unimaginative offense
Speaker 2: that they had. Do you see this tweet from field
Speaker 2: Yates over at ESPN. This is a This is a
Speaker 2: commentary on the Falcons offensive coordinator. He didn't say Zach Robinson.
Speaker 2: He didn't say Zach Robinson by name, but I will
Speaker 2: this was a completely unimaginative offensive game plan. If we
Speaker 2: could toss that up from field Yates, Guys, they the
Speaker 2: Falcons put themselves in. This is This is from ESPN
Speaker 2: stats and information courtesy of field Yates. The Falcons were
Speaker 2: in pistol or shotgun on ninety six percent of their
Speaker 2: snaps in this game against the Steelers yesterday. Of the
Speaker 2: twenty two snaps out of shotgun, the Falcons had zero
Speaker 2: designed runs. Of the twenty six snaps out of the pistol,
Speaker 2: the Falcons ran the ball eighty one percent of the time.
Speaker 2: So literally they're either in shotgun or pistol almost the
Speaker 2: entire game, and then the defense knows exactly what they're
Speaker 2: going to do. It's based on that formation either shotgun
Speaker 2: or pistol. Now, I guess my bigger question when I
Speaker 2: read this was are we go Are we doing this
Speaker 2: much out of the gun and pistol because there's still
Speaker 2: some Achilles concerns or something like that. The Achilles thing
Speaker 2: is over right, but we don't want that much movement
Speaker 2: from going under center. It's not so much the Achilles
Speaker 2: as the fact that, whether it's Achilles or not, he
Speaker 2: hasn't played. This is so and again I'll get here's
Speaker 2: the thing. I want to sound like an old man,
Speaker 2: and I just want to say this again. Four preseason
Speaker 2: games to three preseason games. The fact that some of
Speaker 2: these guys don't play it h yeah. Two. The the
Speaker 2: overall standard of quarterback play league wide. I don't want
Speaker 2: to be prisoner of the moment, but has never been worse.
Speaker 2: And we don't know after it's only one game. But
Speaker 2: after one game, we don't know if any of these
Speaker 2: quarterbacks are gonna be good, right, We don't know. We
Speaker 2: don't know if some of the guys from last year,
Speaker 2: in the last few years, like we're gonna have will
Speaker 2: We're gonna have Billy Leois will Levis and Malik Willis,
Speaker 2: starting games this coming week. It ain't exactly Murderer's row,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Will Levis, I don't even
Speaker 2: know if i'd put in the bottom five. I'm just
Speaker 2: saying we have we have so many quarterbacks that stink.
Speaker 2: So Kirk Cousins, yeah, I mean, he hasn't played. He'll
Speaker 2: be fine. Kirk Cousins still, even because of the environment
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks in the NFL, he's still a top half
Speaker 2: quarterback conservatively, right, as many mistakes as he makes, and
Speaker 2: that that's a that's a referendum on it. Anyway, Atlanta,
Speaker 2: after that loss, they're at Philadelphia. Philadelphia is gonna have
Speaker 2: extra rest because they played the Friday night game against
Speaker 2: Green Bay, which we didn't really talk about because we
Speaker 2: were not on air Saturday morning. But I mean, Philadelphia,
Speaker 2: I don't know how how you come out of that
Speaker 2: game feeling spectacular about it. On the other hand, you
Speaker 2: have that last game ceiling drive where it does have
Speaker 2: to warm you. By the way, there was a fumble
Speaker 2: that got glossed over at the end. Remember they got
Speaker 2: in a took his bush situation. There By the way,
Speaker 2: it's not duschbuschess Bush took his bush situation where they
Speaker 2: fumbled and if Green Bay had recovered that fumble, oh
Speaker 2: my god at that point, but luckily Philadelphia fell on it. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Hurtz was twenty of thirty four for two seventy eight.
Speaker 2: Saquon twenty four carries for one oh nine two touchdowns,
Speaker 2: two for twenty three, receiving for a touchdown for a
Speaker 2: third touch and aj Brown five for one to nineteen
Speaker 2: in a touchdown. I'll say Philly minus six in that game.
Speaker 2: This is it was six. We're going out to six
Speaker 2: and a half now, makes sense, makes sense. So if
Speaker 2: we review these, Kelly, let me just review these on
Speaker 2: the line. We'll get to the more macro things on
Speaker 2: the other side. But these are the ones. There's a
Speaker 2: lot here that I like. Yeah, I thought I thought
Speaker 2: Miami being lower than three against Buffalo's ridiculous. I guessed four.
Speaker 2: You're saying it's moving towards the three. Now by the
Speaker 2: end of this show it could get Yeah, you might
Speaker 2: want to get your two and a half. But I
Speaker 2: thought Dallas was too low because you said it was
Speaker 2: less than seven against New Orleans. I thought it should
Speaker 2: be seven and a half. And that one is quickly moving.
Speaker 2: That way as well. We are there are There is
Speaker 2: a seven at DraftKings now six and a half juiced
Speaker 2: on the Cowboys. It worries me that I like all
Speaker 2: these favorites. I like Detroit by seven against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2: You said it was lower than seven, Okay, so that
Speaker 2: is that is and that's even taken Tampa money. It
Speaker 2: was six and a half. We're down to six is.
Speaker 2: I know we're talking about betting a lot of favorite
Speaker 2: skill and I don't know. You and I are very
Speaker 2: well aware of what that means early in the NFL season,
Speaker 2: that gets down to five and a half, it's got
Speaker 2: to be a lion's bed for me. I like Washington.
Speaker 2: I say this very cautiously. I like washing it against
Speaker 2: the Giants just because it's lower than three. But I'm
Speaker 2: not racing to bet it. But why is that lower
Speaker 2: than three? I have no idea. Okay, man, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: just making sure. I like Houston, Houston. What was the
Speaker 2: number on Houston that is six and a half, okay,
Speaker 2: And I guessed seven and a half. Houston hosting the
Speaker 2: Bears kind of like that. And Baltimore, I love you
Speaker 2: said Baltimore was less than ten. It is nine and
Speaker 2: a half. Okay, that's maybe more than all of this.
Speaker 2: That's the one that I'd be willing to lay the
Speaker 2: wood on. Yeah, because that that feels like a quintessential
Speaker 2: Baltimore runout game. I agree. I also see value. Now
Speaker 2: there's two games I see value in that I want
Speaker 2: no part of which is Pittsburgh. I mean, I get
Speaker 2: it that they're the favorite against Denver, but it's starting
Speaker 2: to get a little aggressive, right, But I'm not racing
Speaker 2: a bet Denver and Carolina. I mean, more value than
Speaker 2: any game. Value in quotes might be the fact that
Speaker 2: the Chargers, the Chargers should not be what did you say?
Speaker 2: It was five and a half and six? There's six
Speaker 2: is out there? Okay, the charge there's a six and
Speaker 2: a half out there. I would say our seven. On
Speaker 2: a normal week, I would say the Chargers should not
Speaker 2: be five and a half or six point road favorites
Speaker 2: against anyone ever. But in this case, the anyone ever
Speaker 2: is the Carolina Panthers. So I just I'm not give
Speaker 2: me a number, Gill, where you bet the Panthers at
Speaker 2: seven and a half?
Speaker 1: Seven and a half, seven and a half?
Speaker 3: All right? Got it?
Speaker 2: On a record? I hope it gets there, and then
Speaker 2: when it gets there, it'll be like, yeah, did I
Speaker 2: say seven and a half and then ten and a half?
Speaker 2: Man with you anyway, that's a lot of value and
Speaker 2: that terrifies me. Coming back more Macro thoughts and the
Speaker 2: Jets Niners.
Speaker 1: Next Numbers game, Sports Vetting.
Speaker 2: Network Back in the Numbers game Live from circa Resort
Speaker 2: of Casino. Right a top these sports book, Gil Alexander
Speaker 2: and Kelly Bidlin. We're in the big house, Baby.
Speaker 3: In the big house. The shell down't got deal back
Speaker 3: in the house too.
Speaker 2: We're excellent graphics design here at Fison. Hey, Michelle was
Speaker 2: happy from maternity leave, excited to see her projects. You
Speaker 2: already giving her project. He's got a list. That's nice.
Speaker 2: Just walk in the door. I got project. Love having Michelle.
Speaker 2: But we get tweets at beating the book. This is
Speaker 2: from Get the Money Racing, he said Pierce with bizarre
Speaker 2: play calling and use of tools. Talking about Antonio Peers,
Speaker 2: this guy played how many football games in his career?
Speaker 2: Situation of football hasn't changed. It tells me he probably
Speaker 2: didn't pay attention to film or coaches. While a player
Speaker 2: missed the basics in game one charleson Connecticut. Hey, mister Pierce,
Speaker 2: do you like sushi. I've got this great secret place.
Speaker 2: Would love to take you to lunch one day if
Speaker 2: you ever have the time to talk about your career experiences.
Speaker 2: And then if he accepts, hit him with the analytics
Speaker 2: and the flaws of his choices. Now, that is a
Speaker 2: great idea. Who's the current head coach in the NFL
Speaker 2: that you would be most scared of facing in a fight,
Speaker 2: Atonio Pierce. You know, it's actually a growing list though,
Speaker 2: Like I still don't Dimiko ryans Man, Like the shape
Speaker 2: that he is in is just incredible. He seems a
Speaker 2: little kinder Xavier eighty two From some postgame analysis that
Speaker 2: I heard, Marvin Harrison Junior dropped a wide open pass
Speaker 2: earlier in the game, and after that, Kyler wanted nothing
Speaker 2: to do with him. There's your reason for the four
Speaker 2: targets the entire game with Xavier? If that is or Ja,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure which what you which's name? If if
Speaker 2: that is the reason, that's even dumber. Yeah, here is
Speaker 2: Kyler Burray's really built up that clout in the league
Speaker 2: that he could just you know, just shun first.
Speaker 3: Round wide receiver I'll do this without you.
Speaker 2: See how many Super Bowls I've won? Uh, Samuel Stepkis
Speaker 2: Panthers have plus money on DK to go under four
Speaker 2: and a half wins. Is there any reason to not
Speaker 2: bet that. I don't see a world where Bryce Young
Speaker 2: wins five games. Oh, Chrissy, my misch Booch is so
Speaker 2: nice saying people are talking to him on Twitter about
Speaker 2: him not being here, and he's saying nice things about us.
Speaker 2: So thank you, the great Chrissy. Andrews over there at
Speaker 2: the South Point the Truth nineteen eighty thinks I look
Speaker 2: like Lib Schreiber. Okay, all right, great Matthew Mayberry, I
Speaker 2: got Boswell five hundred to one MVP tickets. Just kidding,
Speaker 2: but but maybe not, he says, last kicker, by the way,
Speaker 2: if you're wondering, last kicker to win MVP, might be
Speaker 2: the only kicker to win MVP, but last for sure.
Speaker 2: Nineteen hundred and eighty two, Mark Mosley, Baby Washington Redskins
Speaker 2: to the house. That is a trivia question. I would
Speaker 2: have not God, by the way, to get you an
Speaker 2: idea about nineteen much how much that was a strike year,
Speaker 2: so they only played nine regular season games and the
Speaker 2: Skins won the Super Bowl, their first ever Super Bowl win.
Speaker 2: But to give you an idea, how the you know,
Speaker 2: quality of field goal kicking has changed. Mosley ends up
Speaker 2: winning the MVP that year for hitting a record twenty
Speaker 2: seven field goals in a row. So I point that
Speaker 2: out last straight on one one handlebar, face mask, still
Speaker 2: kicking straight on with the toe, Matthew, clone bone. No,
Speaker 2: don't do that. You're gonna pull a calf muscle. We
Speaker 2: don't need that. It's happened already, clone Bone. A few
Speaker 2: years ago, NFL moved the extra point distance back for kickers,
Speaker 2: and we counted the misses. A few years later, fifty
Speaker 2: is automatic? What changed in such a short time. I
Speaker 2: don't know. There's some psychological about the extra point that
Speaker 2: messages well. And then what Justin Tucker can't like hit
Speaker 2: anything past fifty yards anymore? Like I never thought i'd
Speaker 2: see that day. By the way, we're scoring at home, kid.
Speaker 2: You are still missing too, Bob Petrilla, Oh, Bob, hey,
Speaker 2: Gil is a great pleasure meeting you Friday. Thank you
Speaker 2: for taking time to stop and talk with us. Your
Speaker 2: kindness and courtesy were greatly appreciated. Thank you, Bob. He
Speaker 2: says pps Zach Taylor being the first coach fired seems
Speaker 2: like a great bet to me. Bob had a blood
Speaker 2: clot and he, from part of the story that I
Speaker 2: told on air, was able to recognize what was going
Speaker 2: wrong with him. Got to the hospital and the doctor
Speaker 2: said you had a three percent chance of living. Thank
Speaker 2: god you came in when you did so, Bob, it
Speaker 2: was a pleasure meeting you. Stat Logic Sports. Regarding the
Speaker 2: Commando's line, he says, the assumption probably is that will
Speaker 2: basically be a Giant's home game. Well, it will be,
Speaker 2: and Washington's home field advantages like a half point to
Speaker 2: begin with two awful teams, New York always finds a
Speaker 2: way to beat. The minus three would be just too
Speaker 2: much in my opinion, AD's got to be three. Kevin
Speaker 2: Ryan Gillett was more on Sean Payton than Bo Nicks
Speaker 2: for the underwhelming game stats. It was play calling. He
Speaker 2: thinks the kid is Drew Brees, second biggest lie in
Speaker 2: sports that Sean Payton is a quarterback whisper, second biggest lie.
Speaker 2: Who's the ever quarterback whispered? Drew Brees was a finished
Speaker 2: product when he got to Sean Payton Sean Payton never
Speaker 2: never ever coached up any quarterback ever. Second biggest lie
Speaker 2: in sports, as me, what the first one is? Yeah,
Speaker 2: what's the first one? That Ega is only a clay
Speaker 2: court tennis player. Sly Bride this Center over here, Today's
Speaker 2: show outside Here he outside at tennis clothes. He looks
Speaker 2: like he's fourteen years old. Yanick Center, Arena, Satellanca. Congratulations
Speaker 2: to both of them, anybody who had tickets on both
Speaker 2: of those. They get home in the US Open, Slybride
Speaker 2: DJ Slybriye. I was about to laugh at all the
Speaker 2: people who bet actual United States legal tender on Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 2: Bryce Young Gin to Sean Watson, but then I realized
Speaker 2: I bet actual US legal tender all three a Brown.
Speaker 2: I'm still convinced charge of thing, but betting them to
Speaker 2: miss the playoffs now at plus one fifteen might be
Speaker 2: jumping the gun. Could they maybe be looking at a
Speaker 2: four and one start at Carolina at Pittsburgh versus Kansas
Speaker 2: City and then at Denver before the schedule stars stake
Speaker 2: at turn And that's a great point.
Speaker 3: I love the bet. There's no reason to make it now.
Speaker 2: A great point, Absolutely great point, Corbin quick recap of
Speaker 2: a quick recap of week NFL Week one NFL Stroud
Speaker 2: still should have went one. Bryce is horrible. Giants are
Speaker 2: going to be as bad as their uniforms yesterday. Steelers
Speaker 2: are obviously going over their win total, and Gill is
Speaker 2: going to have a beef with Peers in the arking lot. No,
Speaker 2: I don't have the onions for it, Vainbridge deweise. The
Speaker 2: Rams overtime was just another example why NFL needs to
Speaker 2: adopt college overtime rules. Do max two possessions per team
Speaker 2: and if still tied to end it no ridiculous two
Speaker 2: point shootout doesn't add more plays than the ten minute overtime,
Speaker 2: but gives both teams equal chance. Jason H eleven is
Speaker 2: Kelly okay? All that clean air got to get him
Speaker 2: some cigarette smoke and a little cigarette derby. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: let's see Robert Washburn. I'm probably not the megapod guests
Speaker 2: this week, but I want no part of the Chargers
Speaker 2: Panthers at any number absolutely real quick. I get wait
Speaker 2: to the hoope begets to seven and a half, So
Speaker 2: you and I have to really think about it. So
Speaker 2: we talked about the games that I sort of like
Speaker 2: on the line in terms of like actual value. But
Speaker 2: if we just go back to week one, I just
Speaker 2: want to say this, and because the biggest thing we
Speaker 2: can look to do from week one to week two
Speaker 2: is because there's always gonna be overreactions. Is where's you know,
Speaker 2: like you can watch Caroline. Everybody sees Caroline and knows
Speaker 2: they stink. Everybody sees the Washington defense and know they stink.
Speaker 2: But where what are the results that we have to
Speaker 2: call in question? I just wrote down quickly in the
Speaker 2: break eight different teams, one of which lost. So Indianapolis
Speaker 2: losing by two. I know, I know a lot of
Speaker 2: you are going to disagree with me. I don't know
Speaker 2: if they're any good at all. In other words, yes,
Speaker 2: they had big plays, but is that the way to
Speaker 2: be sustainably competent? I don't know. So I don't know
Speaker 2: if Indianapolis is any good. I bet him this week though,
Speaker 2: give me him against Mo League Wilis, because you're like
Speaker 2: Cooper cup and Matthew Stafford with that guy all right here.
Speaker 2: Now here are the other set. Now Here are seven
Speaker 2: winning football team, seven teams that are one to oh
Speaker 2: that I just want to say, do we know if
Speaker 2: they're any good? At one and oh, New Orleans crushing Carolina.
Speaker 2: Do we know if they're any good?
Speaker 1: Nope?
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay crushing the Washington defense, which I would argue
Speaker 2: was worse than any unit in a nyrofolk. Do we
Speaker 2: know Tampa Bay is any good? I don't got it
Speaker 2: got him out of the way in Survival Chicago clearly
Speaker 2: winning by punt return touchdown and pick six against Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Do we know that they're any good? With Caleb Williams
Speaker 2: throw for ninety ninety three yards. We don't know that
Speaker 2: Minnesota crushing the Giants, the no account Giants twenty eight
Speaker 2: to six. Do we know that Minnesota is any good?
Speaker 2: I don't they shot bad? I know they're not bad. Chargers.
Speaker 2: I don't know that Chargers crush Chargers winning I shouldn't
Speaker 2: say crushing, but winning beating the Raiders. The Chargers don't
Speaker 2: look like they have anything on offense besides the occasional JK.
Speaker 2: Dobbins breakout. But that was like an Antonio Pierce assisted win.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Chargers are any good. Do we
Speaker 2: know anything about the Chargers?
Speaker 3: Want to know?
Speaker 2: They could be two and oh after next week? Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: beating Atlanta. Do we know that they're any good? When
Speaker 2: Atlanta telegraphs every play on offense based on what we
Speaker 2: were just talking about, they can score a touchdown these
Speaker 2: kick six field goals Chris Boswa, I mean, I can't like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to take it like I guess I
Speaker 2: bet the Falcons. Yes, I lost that bet, but we
Speaker 2: also talked about it last week that we wouldn't be
Speaker 2: shocked if that happened with the Steelers this week. The
Speaker 2: defense is great, there's no wrong with the defense.
Speaker 3: What are they going to do.
Speaker 2: Throughout the season on offense? Though? And of course New England?
Speaker 2: Do we know that they're any good? I don't think
Speaker 2: we do. So that's seven winners plus the Colts. That's
Speaker 2: a quarter of the league, seven of them winners. I
Speaker 2: don't know if they're any good. Do you feel I mean,
Speaker 2: are you scared at all about your on Pittsburgh? No?
Speaker 2: New England? No, and no me either. Well I don't
Speaker 2: have many unders on it, but I do on Pittsburgh. Yeah, yeah, okay, real,
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna get last windless or fewest
Speaker 2: wins home, but anymore so Jets at Niners tonight nine
Speaker 2: are still favored by four. This has not gone up
Speaker 2: like I thought it would based on the Trent Williams
Speaker 2: and Brandon Ayuk sort of resolutions. There's some doubt about
Speaker 2: Kristin Christian McCaffrey tonight at the very least will he
Speaker 2: be on a pitch count? Will Trent Williams be on
Speaker 2: a pitch count? So there are some definitely like question
Speaker 2: marks with the Niners. I've got the Jets not only
Speaker 2: plus four. I did bet them money line as well.
Speaker 2: I have them in this in the circum millions contest
Speaker 2: to try to go four and one. I know you
Speaker 2: have them as well, to try to complete a five
Speaker 2: and zero in one of yours.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So I'm about the Jets tonight at the very least,
Speaker 2: plus the points and the contests, and I think the Jets.
Speaker 2: I do have the Jets last undefeated. This is the game.
Speaker 2: This is the game at fifteen to one. They could
Speaker 2: be if this was the whole bet, they could crap
Speaker 2: out right here at the top, or if they managed
Speaker 2: to win this game, who they should be the favorite
Speaker 2: at that point? Yeah, let's go Jets. I don't have
Speaker 2: a bet on the game. But I did play him
Speaker 2: in circumillions. I'm gonna update you on a couple more
Speaker 2: line moves. We are very approaching seven on that Cowboys side. Colts,
Speaker 2: a lot of three and a half starting to pop
Speaker 2: on that one. Jaggs taking money heavy this morning out
Speaker 2: to three and a half everywhere, four point favorite at
Speaker 2: one shop. I'm looking at Seahawks three and a half
Speaker 2: or four now as well. This time in the morning
Speaker 2: is kind of Pacific times when we've seen a lot
Speaker 2: of this movement. Steelers out to three and a half
Speaker 2: a couple of places, man, I know, God, well, I
Speaker 2: hate that all the ones I like, our favorites. I
Speaker 2: hate that, hate that coming up because because the dogs
Speaker 2: worked out very well, Buy and Laurence this week. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I get a bunch of favorites, then don't talk to them.