1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Hang, get down until the day when you get out 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: and doing this game they can play, don't do what touchdown? 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Chancea City the Chiefs. All right, the thick of. 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: It, baby, everybody, and welcome to this edition of Defending 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: the Kingdom. Mitch hold us with your Voice of the Chiefs, 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: along as senior team reporter Matt McMullin. Of course, we're 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: brought to you by Ticketmaster, who could be your new 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: best friends. When you look at the Chiefs twenty twenty 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: three schedule, both home and away, and the awesome concerts 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: that are lined up here throughout the summer, Oh my gosh, Ticketmaster, 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: you just need to check it out and figure out 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: how to experience these great moments. But it really is, 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: I mean, the twenty twenty three schedules incredible, the best 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: I think in the sixty three year history of this franchise. 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 3: And we're in June now, it's starting to get hot 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: outside all of a sudden, it's like football. It's not 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: almost here, but we're closer to it than maybe it 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: felt even a few weeks ago. And before we know 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: it will be in Saint Joe for training camp. But 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: we're getting closer every single day, so get your tickets 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: while you can. 22 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: And by the way, sixty fourth year the franchise, I 23 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: don't want to get that right. It end up doing 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,919 Speaker 2: the math speaking of sixty four years in the franchise. 25 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: A bit of a sad time in the Chief Kingdom 26 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: because we lost the person that I call the forever 27 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: Queen of the Chief Kingdom in Norma Hunt's passing. What 28 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: a remarkable woman in so many ways. 29 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: Sad, but also. 30 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: The feeling, a heartwarming feeling and thinking of a life 31 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: well lived and a life that impacted and influenced so many. 32 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: What a life right, And that's kind of what I 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: think the theme has been in the last few days 34 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 3: remembering Norma is just what an incredible life she had, 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: what an impact she left, and what a foundational figure 36 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: in the world of sports she was being right there 37 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: with Lamar Hunt, just you know, looking up some research, 38 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: not just the AFL NFL merger, which again was transformative 39 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: when it comes totional football today, but also Major League Soccer, 40 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: World Championship, Tennis, the North American Soccer League. She just 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 3: did so much alongside Lamar for the modern day sports fan. 42 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: And we'll talk about her a little bit more, but 43 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: just an incredible person, an incredible woman, so warm and 44 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: kind with everyone that she met. 45 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: And I'm so glad. 46 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: Of course, she went to every single Super Bowl, right, 47 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: I'm so glad these last few that she went to 48 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: got to see the Chiefs raised the Lombardi Trophy. 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: And those three times she got to witness the Chiefs 50 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: winning the Lamar Hunt Trophy as the AFC champions after 51 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: never winning it, because when the Chiefs it was the 52 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: AFL back before. I'll just reiterate what I wrote on Twitter, 53 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: and I mentioned that this was an amazing woman, Norma Hunt, 54 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: an amazing woman of grace, charm, wisdom, and so much more. 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: A Proverbs thirty one woman. You can look up that proverb, 56 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: especially the last verses, and you know why I put 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: it in here. I'll just let you look it up. 58 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: But prayers for comfort for the entire Hunt family. An 59 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: incredible person. I shall miss her very much. That smile 60 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: and that spirit and. 61 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: The legacy that she's leaving is immense. One really cool 62 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 3: thing in twenty twenty one that was created was the 63 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: Norma Hunt Training Camp Fellowship Program. And what that does 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: is it essentially provides a pathway for women to find 65 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: opportunities and to gain experience in the front office of 66 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: a National Football League team. Provides networking opportunities and experience 67 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: in pro and college scouting, free agent tryouts, salary, cap 68 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: management and contracts, team operations, player engagement in other departments 69 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: within football operations. So her legacy in so many ways 70 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: is going to live on forever. But specifically it's a 71 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: very cool program but that she's started a few years 72 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: ago that her name is on and for generations of 73 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: women who are going to find opportunities in the NFL 74 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: and going to do great things in the NFL, it 75 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: may just start with this Norma Hunt training camp fellowship program. 76 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: So pretty cool. 77 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. 78 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: Ashley Smith was in that program, Tray Smith's sister, who 79 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: I think will be NFL commissioner someday. 80 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: She is so awesome. But the fact that she. 81 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: Could flourish within that initiative from Norma Hunt. The other 82 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: thing was, I remember the NFL kind of anthology of 83 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: a lifetime of Sundays when they talked about the first 84 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 2: ladies of football, but she was also an entrepreneur. I 85 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: think it's underrated about the impact of Norma Hunt's life 86 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: because she was so humble, much like her husband. But 87 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: I remember I had these long talks with her about 88 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 2: her vineyard. She had a vineyard in northern California, Napa Valley, 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: and the terrible wildfires had almost struck there, but just 90 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: her business mind too. And then I also remember just 91 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: how empathetic and encouraging she was with everybody within the organization. 92 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: She was always there to encourage and just left an 93 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: impact not only in this franchise and the National Football League, 94 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: but really all of professional football. 95 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: And it's so cool to think about what she saw 96 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: and the progress that she saw in professional sports. The 97 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 3: fact that she was with Lamar and the very early 98 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: days of the American Football League, the early days of 99 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: the Dallas Texans and then the Kansas City Chiefs, and 100 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: to see how popular the game became in the decades 101 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: that followed. Just to be at the Super Bowl this 102 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: past year and to see how it is one of 103 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: the largest events in the world. A billion people are 104 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: watching this thing, and she really saw it in its 105 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 3: infancy and when it first began. The NFL was around 106 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: for a long time, but still like if you're looking 107 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 3: at the history of the National Football League, it was 108 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 3: in that era the early sixties that football really started 109 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: to take root in America and the AFL was a 110 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 3: big part of that obviously, and just the impact and 111 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: the role that she had in making the game that 112 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: we love what it is today is pretty profound. 113 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: And then just wrap this up in this part of 114 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: the podcast is the fact that she saw those two 115 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: Super Bowl championships in fifty four and fifty seven of 116 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: course saw four, but then the three Lamar Hunt Trophy championships. 117 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: But then I love that you mentioned the initiative she 118 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: put together because she saw it also the NFL open 119 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: up for women, and in fact that's exploded with the 120 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: opportunity for women over the last five years and specific 121 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 2: for opportunities all throughout the National Football League at all layers, 122 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: whether it's league wide or with individual franchises. So again, 123 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: we shall miss her very very much. A dear woman 124 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 2: of grace, spectacular. What a life in Norma Hunt. Okay, 125 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: when you came back, I think I got this close. 126 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: Some people have said you're Germans, Okay needs a little improvement. 127 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: Comb Baruch will coma, which is welcome back. But you 128 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: got to take the trip to Frankfurt. I saw Dante 129 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: Hall earlier this week at the Trent Green fundraiser for 130 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: Ronald McDonald Ho's charities, and his face lit up and 131 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: I said, Hey, you and Matt got the goat. He 132 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: was telling me about it. So, how was your trip 133 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: to Frankfort. 134 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 3: It was unbelievable. It was, frankly one of the highlights 135 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: of my career. I knew it would be fun when 136 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 3: we were planning it and we were going to go there, 137 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: but I also really didn't know what to expect. For 138 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: one thing, I had never represented the team abroad. I 139 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: know what to expect in the States, right, particularly in 140 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: the middle of the Chiefs Kingdom. I know what to 141 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: expect from our fans, but I didn't know what to 142 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: expect from Chiefs fans and Frankfort. And I was frankly 143 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: blown away by it. It was amazing the passion and 144 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: the energy for our football team five thousand miles away 145 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: and Frankfort is real. And you and I, you know, 146 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: were technically part of the marketing team, right and we 147 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: know that the international endeavors are important, we're working on them. 148 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: It's a real thing. But when you really go over 149 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: there and see it, and you meet with people who 150 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: have never been to the United States don't know a 151 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: lot of English, but they love the Kansas City Chiefs 152 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: and all they want to do is talk football with you. 153 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: It's a really cool and special thing because the Chiefs 154 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: are so special to us, and to see it matter 155 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: to someone who grew up an entirely different lifestyle and 156 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: an entirely different culture in a place so far away, 157 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: it's just very cool. So it was an amazing experience. 158 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: And also visiting a few military bases over there. Seeing 159 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: some of our nation's heroes stationed overseas was a real 160 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: honor to bring them a slice of home so far away, 161 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: so I could talk about it forever. I brought some 162 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: things here to show you though. 163 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, so. 164 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: If you didn't watch the last episode, basically what I 165 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: did there. We went to these military bases, but we 166 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: also had a party in downtown Frankfort on a rooftop. 167 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: And imagine if you get a training camp and all 168 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 3: the activations that are around, you can see like a locker, 169 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: you know, and see what the locker looks like on 170 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: game day, but also play some games. Imagine that. But 171 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: just dropped into the middle of Frankfurt, Germany, in about 172 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty German chefs fans at this event, 173 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: having the time of their lives, and I got to 174 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: meet a bunch of them. So for one thing, this 175 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: is a biography written about Patrick Maha Holmes. It was 176 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: written by Daniel and Alex and I had a chance 177 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: to talk to Daniel quite a bit. Really cool guy. 178 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: This book is in German. Obviously I'll loan this to 179 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: you can work on your German a little bit. But 180 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: just really well done and really cool and asked for 181 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: a copy. He of course signed it for me. Just 182 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 3: really cool to look at this book. I mean it 183 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: goes with what I was saying that like, we know 184 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, we know football, but this book is in 185 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: German and it just shows how global this game is becoming. 186 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: So I told him I'm going to practice my German, 187 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: which is right now at zero, by reading this book. 188 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: So very cool stuff I got this book. I also 189 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: want to skip ahead here. This is one of the 190 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: coolest things I've ever received from a fan. So this 191 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: is from I believe his name is Hikoh or Heikel. 192 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: He gave me this shirt. You're going to freak out. 193 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: Are you ready for this? 194 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeh? Check out the shirt. 195 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: World Frankfurt Galaxy World Bowl Champions ninety nine, go back 196 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: to and earlier defending the Kingdom, Matt date do Deutschland 197 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: and we get into the World Bowl Champions of ninety 198 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: nine led by several former chiefs. 199 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 200 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: So if you're just listening to this podcast, I'm holding 201 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: up a T shirt here from like Mitch said, the 202 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: Frankfurt Galaxy nineteen ninety nine World Bowl champions Like, this 203 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: is the kind of stuff that if you saw it 204 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: in like a vintage T shirt shop, you'd be like, 205 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: this is the coolest thing ever. So yeah, at Frankfurt 206 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: Galaxy World Bowl Championship t shirt. 207 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: So very cool. That's awesome. 208 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: And then also we went to these military bases. So 209 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: we went to US Army Garrison Wisbaden, which is about 210 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 3: thirty minutes to the west, really amazing place, met with 211 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 3: a lot of service members, and then we also went 212 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: to Ramstein Air Base about an hour and a half 213 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: to the southwest. It's almost in France. It is the 214 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: largest US community outside of the States. Fifty thousand US 215 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 3: citizens live in this area surrounding the base, and the 216 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: town of Kaiserslatn is right there near Ramstein and I 217 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: have their American version newspaper here. Of course I had 218 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: the page penned off, but we made the newspaper, which 219 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: was the coolest thing because we had like autograph signings 220 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 3: at the b X, which is essentially a military shopping 221 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: center on base where the cheerleaders. Because I was there 222 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: with two cheerleaders, Cooper and Jordan, and then Dante and 223 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: Casey Woolf, and we made the newspaper. 224 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic, and the line was. 225 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: Just out the door. It was amazing. It was so 226 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: cool because this is a little bit different than the 227 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: party in Frankfurt. These are American citizens and a lot 228 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: of them maybe aren't from Kansas City, but they love 229 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 3: football and to see Dante Hall and to see the 230 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs, they're visiting them. All of a sudden, 231 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: it's like, this is so cool. I gotta go see 232 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 3: these guys. But there's also a lot of chefs fans there. 233 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 3: The entire line was read people in jerseys from every 234 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 3: era because so many people either were from the Kansas 235 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: City are originally or they had been stationed at Fort 236 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 3: Riley or Fort Levenworth or Fort Leonard Wood or Whiteman. 237 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: They had spent time in the area and had caught 238 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: the cheese fever and they had some chief scare, so 239 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: so many people were there so excited to see the 240 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: chiefs were in town. Then also at Ramstein, we got 241 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 3: to go out on the airfield, which there's these giant planes. 242 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 3: I forget the names of them, but these giant planes 243 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 3: at transport just about anything all over the world, like 244 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: oh yeah, exactly, a whole bunch of planes like that. 245 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: And we got these little waistbands, so these are like 246 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: belts that you wear at night when you're out on 247 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 3: the runway because these runways are going twenty four to 248 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 3: seven and if it's dark, you have to be seen, right, 249 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: So these things, say Mission movers, the group that we 250 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: met with on the airstrip. They were the people in 251 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: charge of maintaining these planes and making sure if a 252 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: wheel pops off or if there's some kind of issue, 253 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: they can get it fixed in no time so that 254 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: these plans can fly all over the world running their missions. 255 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: So those are just a few of the many things 256 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: I gathered. I also met this guy, James Virgott. We 257 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 3: met him at the p X because it's a post 258 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 3: at in Wisboten as opposed to a b X, which 259 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: is a base at Ramstein. This guy comes up to 260 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 3: me and he says, do you know Cale Kirby. I 261 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: was like, of course I know Kal Kirby, and if 262 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: you watched last episode, Kal's of course on our equipment staff. 263 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: He's the one that got us the Frankfurt Galaxy helmet. Apparently, 264 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: according to James, James was Cale's boss at NFL Europe. 265 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: What a small world, right, I'm like, of course, I know. 266 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: What's James doing now? Is the equipment manager for it? 267 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 3: Says he is all American Triple Crown, Department of Europe, 268 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: a veteran of former veterans of foreign wars. This is 269 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: organizations based in. 270 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: That's phenomenal. That's awesome. 271 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 3: This was every day just just meeting these amazing people 272 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: and just being on the other side of the world 273 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: and feeling the energy and the hunger for Chiefs football. 274 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: It was so cool and it is something I'll never forget. 275 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: So for every one that I met over there, whether 276 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: you were in Frankfurt or you were at those military bases, 277 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: thank you so much for coming up and saying hi. 278 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: It was a joy. 279 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: Of my career to meet. 280 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: All of you. 281 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: That's so awesome, Matt, so glad you got to do it, 282 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: and just the Kingdom can't wait to go see them 283 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: all our fans this fall on Funse November. 284 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: You know. 285 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: The irony here is you talked about the Sea one thirties. 286 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: They train and a lot of German pilots and crews 287 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: train on the Sea one thirty in Saint Joseph, Missouri 288 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: at Rosecrans the Air Guard base there and they'll fly 289 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: over the field a lot during training camp. And then 290 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: if you stay, Oh, I don't know any of the 291 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: hotels in Saint Joseph, but Stony Creek I know. My 292 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: family will come visitor in camp and we'll stay there. 293 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: There'll be a lot of German air folk there because 294 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: they're training in Saint Joseph. So it's just neat to 295 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: see that kind of condo it back and forth that 296 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: we talk about between the two countries. 297 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so cool. 298 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: And what's amazing about the US president in Germany from 299 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: a military perspective is it's really our hub of European 300 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: and African operations. And it's not just the US, it's 301 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: also NATO. So there were people from all these different 302 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: countries who are serving their country, serving NATO that we 303 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: had a chance to meet and get to know a 304 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: little bit and just see what they're doing and again 305 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: to provide them a distraction, I guess from just the 306 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: everyday grind of being a service member. We also got 307 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: to go to a place called the USO Warrior Center 308 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: and that was at Ramstein Air Force Base and essentially 309 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 3: think of that as a Ronald McDonald house kind of 310 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: place for soldiers and airmen who are injured where they 311 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: can go into this area and they can play video games, 312 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: or they can learn a new skill, they can be 313 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 3: taken care of, and they're not just sitting in a 314 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: hospital thinking about what's going on with them. And it 315 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: was just amazing to meet these people because they're not 316 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: just people that were injured or who are sick. In Germany, 317 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: I met a guy who got hurt in Kuwait like 318 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: three days prior and gets flown there. So just an 319 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: amazing group of people. It was every day we met 320 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: so many different kinds of groups. It was soldiers who 321 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: are maybe it was their first day in the arm service, 322 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: or it was individuals who were injured recently and we're 323 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: just trying to get back up on their feet. And 324 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: that was just the military members. Also, of course, all 325 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: the wonderful German fans we met were incredible as well. 326 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: So I was only there for five days. I feel 327 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: like I didn't sleep at all, but that was okay. 328 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: I was never tired because we were having so much fun. 329 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: And it was once again just one of the honors 330 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: of my career to be able to go over to 331 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: Germany and to do all of this, it was amazing. 332 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: Ramstein is so important. It's saved so many lives. 333 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: If you go back to Desert Shield Desert Storm, you 334 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: think about the war in Afghanistan. So many times they 335 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: were taken to Ramstein if they were wounded seriously or 336 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: had gone through some difficult circumstances, and Ramstein was the. 337 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: Place that really saved their life. 338 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: That place is so important, and not only the United 339 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: States but to the NATO forces so awesome quickly. 340 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: The food good. 341 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 3: So I like German food. I eat a lot of snitchell, Yeah, 342 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: I drink some German beer. Yeah it's not for everyone, right, 343 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 3: but if you can find a good German restaurant in Germany, 344 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 3: like you got to do it right. And I thought 345 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 3: it was really good. For those of you that are 346 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 3: going over to Frankfurt. One thing to know, I mean 347 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: us in America we think of all of Germany as 348 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: things like schnitzel and dark beer and all this stuff. Right, 349 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 3: and like the hofbra House. That's Bavaria. That's Munich, which 350 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 3: is about three hours away. Frankfurt is known for its 351 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: apple wine. It's a big thing in Frankfurt. It's everywhere. 352 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 3: It's essentially like a cider. But I tried it because 353 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: that is my duty as a American trying to learn 354 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: about this area. It thumbs up. It was very good. 355 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: If you go to Frankfurt, try the apple wine. But 356 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 3: Frankfurt it's an awesome place, a really cool experience. And 357 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: if you're wondering, what's it going to be, like the 358 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: Chiefs are playing over there and it's a home game 359 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 3: experience with any indication it's going to be a wild 360 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: atmosphere in favor of the Chiefs. 361 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: Euros, you had your euros. 362 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 3: Got my euross, ye got my euros. 363 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm exchanged back or you just save them for when 364 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: you go we go into November. 365 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: Thankfully I exchanged everything back. I'm good for now. But 366 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 3: I'll have to get re upped. We go back in November. 367 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 3: I'm going to show you around. 368 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: I can't wait. I can't show me all of a sudden, 369 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: I know where you go. Yeah, good job on the recon. 370 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 2: It's so awesome, man, you have to go and what 371 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: you did on that trip there, fantastic job. We're going 372 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 2: to close out this edition of Defending the Kingdom with 373 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: just an OTA update. 374 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: Right. 375 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: We know how important OTRs OTAs are to this franchise 376 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: and specific and one of the reasons Andy Reid has 377 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: won for ten consecutive years, ten straight winning seasons, go 378 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: through them all again. Five straight AFC Championship games never 379 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: happened hosted by a team since nineteen twenty one in 380 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 2: this league. To have seven straight division titles, everybody wants 381 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: to kind of capture the secret sauce. 382 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: Well, part of that is in one impress as. 383 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: We've watched the OTAs now over the last several weeks, 384 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 2: and next week will be mandatory mini camp for the 385 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: franchise and the guys kind of the last push before 386 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 2: training camp. Isn't the way that the Chiefs approach OTAs, 387 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: the tempo in which it is done. It really feels 388 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: like a training camp tempo for other teams that the 389 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 2: Chiefs do during OTAs. They get so much accomplished. And 390 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: I just saw Travis Kelcey. I just said, dude, you're 391 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: amazing the way you work in OTAs because it's as 392 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: if you're trying to make the team, but that premiates 393 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: throughout this entire team. They get so much done on 394 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. And when we watch it, 395 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: we're amazed at how much is put into the hopper 396 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: to get ready for training camp, to get ready for 397 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: the season. 398 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 3: It's incredible. And just in case you haven't listened to 399 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: our previous OTA episodes, what are OTAs well? Basically, this 400 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 3: is week three of OTAs. There is OTAs the week 401 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 3: prior and the week before that. You get like ten 402 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: of these practice days where you can essentially seven on 403 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 3: seven and eleven on eleven drills, no live contact, no pads, 404 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 3: but it's almost real football. It's kind of like flag 405 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 3: football in a way. You couldn't do any of this 406 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: previously because the NFLPA and the NFL have agreed to 407 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: this collective bargaining agreement where there's essentially no real football 408 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: practices that are taking place Before this time, which began 409 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 3: in mid May, it's only like individual stuff, positional drills. 410 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: But this time is so important because you can finally 411 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 3: go out there and play quasi real football. And the 412 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 3: best teams take advantage of this time, use it because 413 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 3: then it'll be poof, it will be gone. These don't 414 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 3: roll over to next season. And the Chiefs are so 415 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: good at using this time to install as much information 416 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 3: as they possibly can, to build the muscle memory when 417 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: they can so that when they get the training camp 418 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 3: they can hit the ground running. So many teams across 419 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 3: the NFL get the training camp and that is day one, 420 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 3: and for the Chiefs it's like day fifteen. And that's 421 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: why the Chiefs win every single year because they maximize 422 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 3: this time and they've been maximizing it out there over 423 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 3: these three weeks. 424 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: And not just the install but it's also the teaching 425 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: individual teaching as a group with we the one side 426 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: of the ball, offense or defense. A lot of special 427 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: teams work, a lot of special teams work. I'm almost 428 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: guessing the Chiefs do more special teams work in OTAs 429 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 2: than other teams in the National Football League, maybe any 430 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: other team. But then also individual teaching that happens during OTAs, 431 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: but it's fascinating to watch. It gets us ready for 432 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: training camp and kind of and getting an understanding two 433 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: of the roster for you and me, because the roster 434 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: always has a ton of turnover. Okay, the thing that 435 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 2: I would want to bring up now, let's just talk 436 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: about defense first, because offensive LDEs aren't kind of always 437 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: where we start. Let's talk about the defensive side of 438 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: what I've noticed, and to me, it is the overall depth. 439 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 2: I don't want to bring out hyperbole here because I 440 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: think this isn't going too far over my skis, but 441 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 2: this might be the best defensive depth the Chiefs had 442 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 2: in the eleven seasons with Andy Reid. We have seen 443 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: and I'll get into the udfas in a second, but 444 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: we have seen increased depth, especially at linebacker and the secondary. 445 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 2: That really shows up over the last couple of weeks. 446 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 3: I'm so excited about the depth that we have on 447 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 3: defense this year because they have to go out and 448 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: do it, but I think this has a great chance 449 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 3: to be maybe the best defense that we've had in 450 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 3: the Patrick Mahomes era. They got to go do it, 451 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 3: but at least right now, in June. That's my hope. 452 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: Just looking at what we're seeing and the defensive back 453 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: room is something I'm very excited about because you think 454 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: about how these guys came in here last year, the 455 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: five dbs that were drafted, and all of them played 456 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: a role that led to a Super Bowl championship. And 457 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 3: I asked you Spagnolo a few days ago, how do 458 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: you feel they are now versus where they were at 459 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 3: this point last year? And he said, they are light 460 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: years ahead. And think about how those guys were good 461 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: last season. They came right in and they made play 462 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, guys like Trent McDuffie, Jalen Watson, 463 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: Joshua Williams, Brian Cook, and Nazzi Johnson. Don't forget about Nazi. 464 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 3: Those guys are light years ahead right now from where 465 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 3: they were this time a year ago. I expect all 466 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: those guys to take a big step forward this upcoming season. 467 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 3: And Justin Reid's also part of that. Spags also make 468 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: sure to include him because he had Justin Reid's a 469 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 3: veteran in this league, but last year was his first 470 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 3: year in the system. 471 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: Well this is his second year. 472 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 3: He feels way more comfortable, and I just feel really 473 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 3: good about this dB room and Nazi in particular just 474 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: has really caught my eye and the open practices that 475 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 3: were allowed to watch has just been making plays out there, 476 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 3: whether they be pbu's or just being in the right 477 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 3: place at the right time. Nazzi Johnson is someone who 478 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 3: I'm very excited to watch here in training camp. 479 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of got lost in the shuffle last year. 480 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: What you mentioned the other guys, but also a special 481 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 2: teams he could become a really really good special teams 482 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: player for this Chiefs defense. Also look at the draft 483 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: picks and what they've already done. It's been a little 484 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 2: bit slower start for Felix. And you do Kaz as 485 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: he was injured in the Sugar Bowl against Alabama and 486 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: he's playing for k State. But I see BJ Thompson, 487 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: I see Jamari Conner, Nick Jones, Nick Jones, Nick Jones, 488 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: the seventh round pick out of ball State will be 489 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: interesting to watch at camp. The other part is before 490 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 2: we transition to offense, here's our OTA update is the 491 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: undrafted free agents. I know we touched on it in 492 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: a previous episode, but these guys have followed up linebackers 493 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: like Isaiah Moore or Cam Jones, and then Boydo Echo Boydo, 494 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: the kid from k State who wasn't even drafted, not 495 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: even drafted, he wasn't even a UDFA. He tried out 496 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden, it's like he could 497 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: have been drafted. 498 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: Right. 499 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: He just has kind of morphed the into everybody else. 500 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: It's not some guy sticking out, always the dryout guy. 501 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: But these undrafted free agents on defense are a big 502 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 2: part I think of helping what could be the deepest 503 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 2: defensive team going into training camp. 504 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 3: So when you're following the Chiefs in mini camp which 505 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: is next week, and then throughout training camp and you 506 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: hear names like Eco Boydo at corner or Truman Jones 507 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: at defensive end or Cam Jones at linebacker. Sure it 508 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: might be a long shot for guys like that to 509 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: make the team, but the way the practice squad works 510 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 3: nowadays is that those guys end up on the practice squad, 511 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 3: they could be up on the roster in week two. 512 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: Look at Jack Cochran from last year. I always mentioned Jack, 513 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: but Jack did not make the team out of training camp, 514 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: but then went on to appear in fifteen games for 515 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: the Chiefs. So I look at this undrafted free agent 516 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 3: class and these defensive players, and sure you're looking at 517 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: roster math, You're like, I don't know, is there enough 518 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: room for these guys. That doesn't always matter, because I 519 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 3: guarantee you one of these udfas at some point is 520 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: going to make a play for the Chiefs that helps 521 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: Kansas City win a game. 522 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: Roster math this year could be like series and differential equations. 523 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: Let's go to the offensive side here as we close 524 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: out this podcast, And to me, what has been I 525 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: guess a surprise over watching the OTAs over the last 526 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 2: several weeks has been backup quarterback playing Gabbart. I know 527 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 2: you saw him at Missoo. Chiefs Kingdom fans are familiar 528 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 2: with him. When I look at what he's done sixty 529 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 2: seven games of forty eight starts in his career, then 530 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: I look back, he has had touchdown passes a seventy four, 531 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: eighty sixty seven, seventy five, fifty two and seventy one. 532 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: That's six touchdown passes and fifty two. 533 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: Yards or more. 534 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 2: And now I see why footwork, he emplacement, his ability 535 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 2: to get the ball out fast. Don't want to compare 536 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: him to Chad Henny here because Chad just led the 537 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: Chiefs on a ninety eight yard drive to win a 538 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 2: divisional playoff game. But to me, I was surprisingly pleased 539 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: by the ability of Blaine Gabbert as a backup quarterback. 540 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 3: We need to ask, Blaine, are you ready to lead 541 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 3: a crucial drive or make a gigantic play in the 542 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 3: division round of the playoffs, because that's Chad Henny's legacy 543 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 3: in Kansas City. He's not just against the Jags, it's 544 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: also against the Browns a few years ago, throwing the 545 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 3: ball on fourth bound when the Chiefs are only up 546 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 3: by four late in the game. Chad Henny was such 547 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 3: a luxury for the Chiefs because we always knew if 548 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahone, God forbid, God hurt, you have faith that 549 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 3: Chad can come in and he can run the offense. 550 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 3: He's a veteran, he's been around, he knows what he's doing, 551 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 3: and at least so far watching Blaine Gabbert, he's also 552 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 3: that guy. And keep in mind he just spent I 553 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 3: think three or four years with Tom Brady. I mean, 554 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 3: who better to learn from just to see how you 555 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 3: go about your business and Blaine's been around a long time. 556 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,719 Speaker 3: He's back in Missouri where he's originally from, and has 557 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 3: a chance to back up Patrick Mahomes. Hopefully he never 558 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 3: has to play, but if he does, based on what 559 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 3: we've seen, we have faith that he can go in there, 560 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 3: at least as of this moment and help the Chiefs. 561 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 1: Win. 562 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: Also excited about what I've seen in the depth oft 563 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: offensive line and tied in. 564 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: I know you're going to ask about wide receiver. Every 565 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: day people talk about wide receives. He got notes and 566 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: wide receivers. 567 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about a little bit. But I think 568 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: here the buy word is going to be patience. Everybody 569 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 2: wants some definitive answer right now in OTA's with the 570 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: wide receivers, and I do think because there's a bunch 571 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: of folks to talk about here is just let this 572 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 2: one flow. There's nothing here on the middle of that 573 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: we're going to say this is definitive, and this is definitive. 574 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: It's going to be a flow that goes into training camp. 575 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: But there has been enough when you see plays like 576 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: and Rashi Rice and they put a lot on his plate. 577 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: Sky Moore looks like he's taking that year one to 578 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: year two jump. But then there's a bunch of other 579 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: guys and there's like eleven wide receivers on this roster 580 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 2: right now. But to say, hey, this, this and this 581 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: and this to be definitive at this point would be premature. 582 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Now, what you look for in these practices is growth. 583 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 3: Are guys making the same mistake twice or do they 584 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 3: learn from that previous mistake? Our guys coming out here 585 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 3: and just gradually improving, and for the young guys, that 586 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 3: truly is the name of the game. And Rashi Rice, 587 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: I think I saw that between week one and week two. 588 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: So the way this. 589 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 3: Works is the Chiefs have like three or four OTA 590 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: practices every week, but only one is open to the medias. 591 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: We get to watch that one practice each week, so 592 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 3: it's a small sample size. But Rashi from that first 593 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 3: practice to his second practice last week just looked like 594 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: he really was proving to me he's so twitchy in 595 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: the open field, and what do I mean by that? 596 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 3: He can go any which direction, He's so quick. And 597 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: Brett Viach talked about how they loved that skill set 598 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 3: that he had when he was at SMU. I'm seeing 599 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: that here on the practice fields. He also made a 600 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: great catch in the back of the end zone during 601 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: an offensive red zone install period just high pointed the 602 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: ball got both feet down. Just an excellent play in 603 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 3: the red zone that was really impressive. But Sky Morey 604 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: mentioned him. He has also looked really good throughout this camp, 605 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: I think, and they continue to throw a lot at him, 606 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: but he just looks like he is a confident player 607 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 3: who knows that he belongs. And that's where his performance 608 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: in the AFC Title Game and in the Super Bowl 609 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 3: is so important because I think that carries over now 610 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 3: into this season and how he can attack this season. 611 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: Because he knows he belongs, he can make big plays 612 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 3: in the biggest of moments, and I really think we're 613 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 3: seeing that so far in this camp. He had a 614 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 3: great catch last week where it was in traffic. He 615 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 3: was over the middle and he was a vacuum. He 616 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 3: caught it and then made a big play. So Sky 617 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 3: is someone else. 618 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: So I'm very excited for I'm too, And I just 619 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: just talked to him a little bit ago, and it's 620 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: not even like you're talking to the same guy. And 621 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: I like the fact that you brought up that punt 622 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: return against Cincinnati to help win the AFC Championship and 623 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: then his touchdown the first ever of his NFL life 624 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: in Super Bowl fifty seven. Just he feels like it's 625 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: made him a different person. So we'll just close out 626 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: here too. Udfas, we kind of alluded to this. I 627 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: kind of put it out on Twitter a little bit, 628 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: but Deneric Prince is a guy running back out of 629 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: Tulsa that has got our attention here during OTAs. 630 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: And then Nico Remigio, who is kind. 631 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: I put him down as a utch and people on 632 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: Twitter is like, well, what's utch? I put it out 633 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: his utility and the fact that this is a guy 634 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: that can do a lot of stuff. We've seen him 635 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: move around, but he'll be fun to watch a training camp. 636 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: But those are two udfas that I think deserve mentioned. 637 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: And for those guys, sure maybe they can contribute on offense, 638 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: but think about like the kick return game. We talked 639 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 3: to coach Tobe about this a few days ago. With 640 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: Isaiah Pacheco taking on a larger role on offense, presumably 641 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: it's unlikely he's going to be the primary kick return man, 642 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 3: and coach Tob said as much just a few days ago, 643 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 3: mentioning that it's very likely that we see some new 644 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 3: faces back there, and that creates opportunities for guys like 645 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: Remigio and Generic Prince. And we've got a joked about this, 646 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 3: and coach Tobe even said it Generic Prince is like 647 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 3: a Nile Davis clone. 648 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: It looked the exact same just come back and another body, Yeah, wow, 649 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: so he could. 650 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: I mean, long way to go here, But if he 651 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: has a shot to make this team and be the 652 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 3: primary kickoff return man, he's got to earn that responsibility. 653 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: But there is an avenue for him to do that. So, uh, 654 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 3: just another reminder that even if guys aren't drafted, it 655 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. Like when you get to this camp, you're 656 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 3: truly given every opportunity to find success and to make 657 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 3: this team. And uh, this was a really solid undrafted 658 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: free agent class for the Chiefs. We're saying it every 659 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 3: time we've had a chance to watch practice that there's 660 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 3: some players I think that would have been drafted in 661 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 3: previous years that are in our camp as Uda face. 662 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: So we'll close this way. 663 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: Next week we'll have mandatory mini camp and we'll do 664 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: an update after that, which kind of closes out summer. 665 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: School and that's all opens. We can really talk about it. 666 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we can let her fly, but we also want 667 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: to close with the way we began and in a 668 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: proper tribute for all of the Chief Kingdom all around 669 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: the world, that we lost the forever Queen of the 670 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: Chief Kingdom. So prayers go out for comfort for the 671 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 2: Hunt family, but also just thinking and being very thankful 672 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: with a lot of gratitude for a remarkable life of 673 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: Norma Hunt. 674 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 1: He's Matt McMullen. I'm Mitch Holtis. 675 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: We'll give you next week an update on mandatory Mini camp, 676 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: but will do so remembering the Forever Queen of the 677 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: Chief Kingdom. 678 00:32:45,440 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: Talks down down and the celebration begins. To their head, 679 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: nothing